WEBVTT - Ep. 8: Who Stood Out in Preseason Week 1? | Jags A.M. Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome into Jagson, presented by Carshield. It's Monday, August fourteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Jaguars actual football to talk about in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of they played a preseason game, which we've been dying

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<v Speaker 1>for because we've been you know, sweating mount in the

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<v Speaker 1>sun at training camp. So things are legit, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think some of the younger players we've been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>really came out and showed out. And that was what

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<v Speaker 1>I was most impressed by from that game.

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<v Speaker 2>I think all the rookies did. I mean, maybe you

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<v Speaker 2>could say Eric Hallett, but you just go down the

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<v Speaker 2>line and every one of them. John did something that

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<v Speaker 2>was noteworthy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's what you look for.

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<v Speaker 4>I've gotten a striking number of emails from people upset

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<v Speaker 4>about this or that, and the first team offense didn't

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<v Speaker 4>start fast. And look Doug talk this morning. He wants

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<v Speaker 4>to start faster.

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<v Speaker 3>But is there a big concern on your part.

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<v Speaker 4>That the offense isn't gonna be good? None, So relax

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<v Speaker 4>about the offense until we see it a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>regular season games not work, It's gonna work. What you

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<v Speaker 4>wanted out of this was to see the young players

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<v Speaker 4>you wanted to see guys. As they step up, they

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<v Speaker 4>certainly seem deeper. I thought the depth issue was overrated

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<v Speaker 4>last year. I thought they were fairly deep in key spots.

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<v Speaker 4>But it looks like they have some young guys who

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<v Speaker 4>are gonna be key and good for the future of

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<v Speaker 4>this franchise.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, apologies to Derek Parrish and Eric

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<v Speaker 2>Hallett if they did something. You know, I didn't see

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<v Speaker 2>every Worokie do something, but as I went through my list,

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<v Speaker 2>there were a lot of guys that did, and to me,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what matters the most.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're gonna be talking a ton about that today.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's start off with big things. Because third drive

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<v Speaker 1>was the charm for Trevor. We thought we would see

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<v Speaker 1>the starters for maybe one or two drives. Obviously Trevor

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence throwing that interception on the first drive, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they punted on the second drive.

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<v Speaker 5>It's obviously a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a I think Duck said the ball slipped out

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<v Speaker 1>of his hands there, but just a mistake. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he just shouldn't have either thrown out of bounds or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let that play go.

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<v Speaker 5>But they did bounce back from that, right.

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<v Speaker 1>They got the fumble on the punt and they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to get the ball back on that third possession.

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<v Speaker 1>They put the stage back out there and then you

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<v Speaker 1>saw the drive that you wanted to see, right. You

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<v Speaker 1>want to see them finish strong and to get that

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<v Speaker 1>touchdown pass to Christian Kirk. They went for the two

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<v Speaker 1>point conversion as well, and I think John were encouraged

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<v Speaker 1>that at least they were able to kind of finish

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<v Speaker 1>things off after a little bit of.

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<v Speaker 5>Rocky start there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and you want to see him smooth it out

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<v Speaker 4>over the long run. But this is sort of what

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<v Speaker 4>Trevor is. I mean, he he.

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<v Speaker 3>Gets it going.

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<v Speaker 4>It can take him a while to get started, and

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<v Speaker 4>it took him ahi to get stared the other night.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not worried about the interception. I'm not worried about

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<v Speaker 4>anything on this offense. But you know, if they had

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<v Speaker 4>stopped the game after three series against the Chargers last year,

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<v Speaker 4>but it gets fired, Yeah, I mean, I'm exaggera and

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<v Speaker 4>they weren't gona get fired. But you know, so football

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<v Speaker 4>is a sixty minute game. This is what this team

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<v Speaker 4>sort of is. If this was a game, they hung

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<v Speaker 4>in there, they shut them out, and then they got

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<v Speaker 4>to turn over and went in and scored.

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<v Speaker 2>That's football.

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<v Speaker 4>This team takes advantage of opportunities. I'm starting to think

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<v Speaker 4>of of Trevor's sort of an adrenaline quarterback and when

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<v Speaker 4>he gets it going and all of a sudden, it

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<v Speaker 4>can turn to magic. And his last two throws were

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<v Speaker 4>both scores, So stop worrying about the first one so much.

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<v Speaker 4>The offense is gonna be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>People were because they enjoy it, right, I mean, there

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<v Speaker 2>are people that like defining the negative in something and

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<v Speaker 2>then work their way through it. He's still a young quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got thirty six career starts, thirty four in the

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<v Speaker 2>regular season, so that's nothing that concerns me. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you what I lot.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess what, Brian, this team's not going to score

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<v Speaker 4>in every possession this year. If they did, that would

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<v Speaker 4>be some sort of record, and they're probably gonna win

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<v Speaker 4>every game.

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<v Speaker 2>So you relax, I will. I don't want to point

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<v Speaker 2>at one thing. The thing that I liked the most

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<v Speaker 2>about the touchdown throw at about the two point was

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<v Speaker 2>how patient he was in the pocket, how he just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and you covered the Patriots, so you know this.

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<v Speaker 2>When Tom Brady was at his best. He moved in

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<v Speaker 2>about a three foot circle, you know, radius in the pocket,

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<v Speaker 2>not very much, just enough to sort of avoid and

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<v Speaker 2>slide and get the vision that he needed. That's exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what Trevor did. And the other thing is that we

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<v Speaker 2>talked about second year in the systems. Second year with

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<v Speaker 2>these guys together, both Kirk and Jones worked their way open.

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<v Speaker 2>The quarterback was patient, they knew where they needed to be,

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<v Speaker 2>and they made the place. That's the second year factor

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<v Speaker 2>that we have been talking about since the spring.

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<v Speaker 1>I did like a lot of what I saw on

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<v Speaker 1>that third drive for them. I do have a Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>comparison coming up in hot takes because I did see

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<v Speaker 1>something very reminiscent there, which bodes well for this team.

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<v Speaker 1>As for our big thing number two, that's the youth movement.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's take a couple a look at some of

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<v Speaker 1>these plays that we had from Gregory Junior, because we

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<v Speaker 1>know Brian's been talking about him for a while now

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<v Speaker 1>and he really came through.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look when you watch this guy, watch how fast

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<v Speaker 2>he gets where he's going and then how violently he arrives.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's bang. You see him, he shows up,

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<v Speaker 2>he pops off the tape, and what impresses me is that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's a guy that shows up from Watchita

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<v Speaker 2>Baptist Naia Division two school and in a short time

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<v Speaker 2>is making plays like that against guys who are competing

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<v Speaker 2>for jobs on the Cowboys roster. That was early in

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<v Speaker 2>the game. Those guys are competing for those special teams jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>And everything we saw from the digress in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>special teams, we've been talking about it for weeks now

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, making your mark there and that's how

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<v Speaker 1>you get your roster spot. And there's got to be

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<v Speaker 1>you know, probably five six players I saw making plays

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<v Speaker 1>that could get themselves a spot from that.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, he is not just competing for a

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<v Speaker 2>special team's job this year, for the starting nickelback role

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<v Speaker 2>because he's good in the middle of the field.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't think he's going to start at nickel

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<v Speaker 4>this year. I think they's going to get to Trey Herndon.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's.

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<v Speaker 4>What they needed desperately coming into this camp was for

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<v Speaker 4>some of this abyss of young corners meaning Braswell and

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<v Speaker 4>Junior and Brown, for somebody to step up where you

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<v Speaker 4>felt good about four, five and six, you know, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>The three is where I'm just saying he can't get

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<v Speaker 4>to that third spot. But I would think it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be Trey. But you wanted, you know, coming into camp,

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<v Speaker 4>you worried if any of those guys are out, who's

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<v Speaker 4>you've seen nothing. Credit to Tim Jones who forced the

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<v Speaker 4>first fumble and showed again why it's going to be

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<v Speaker 4>tough to have him not on the roster.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on on it. I mean, I know Trade's been

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<v Speaker 2>around here for a while, but people that I talked

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<v Speaker 2>to say that that is real, that Trey Herndon and

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<v Speaker 2>Gregory Jr. Are locked in a battle for this job.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not just going to be given to the

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<v Speaker 2>veteran because he's got more starts in a young player,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, with some uptick. There also one more name

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<v Speaker 2>we should mention, Devod Wilson, who had an interception that

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<v Speaker 2>was nullified by a penalty on Christian Braswell on the

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<v Speaker 2>other side of the field for illegal contact. So it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't just brass Well and and the other draft picks

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<v Speaker 2>and Greg Jr. To Vod Wilson, the undrafted rule who

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<v Speaker 2>came from Georgia who we've talked about on this show

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<v Speaker 2>as well came through with a big play too.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what you want to see in the preseason,

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<v Speaker 1>these names that we've been talking about, that's where you

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<v Speaker 1>need to show out and do that. And we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to go over a bunch of that in the B

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<v Speaker 1>Block Courage just after the break. We're going to come

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<v Speaker 1>back and talk about a bunch of those young players,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically the draft picks and what they were able to

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<v Speaker 1>do in the game, and a round things out with

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<v Speaker 1>our big thing Number three, Canada's favorite Son. Because Nathan

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<v Speaker 1>Rourke had a play that ever has been blowing up

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely everywhere, and I was on the sideline that it

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<v Speaker 1>went down on and I was I myself just I

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<v Speaker 1>think I was just like, no way, this man doing

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<v Speaker 1>this right now because I was like, why is he

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<v Speaker 1>doing it? And then I was like, oh wait, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a chance here, because at this point I was like.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait, wait, wait, what are we doing? What are we doing?

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<v Speaker 1>And then it's like, oh wait, he's gonna throw it.

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<v Speaker 5>It's impressive.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, big time play.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it's it's uh, let's pump the brakes on,

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<v Speaker 4>putt him in the Hall of Fame and he's.

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<v Speaker 5>In Canada's Hall of Fame. Thank you should be.

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<v Speaker 3>A some Jaguars fan.

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<v Speaker 4>He was the Canadian player there understandably going nuts and

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<v Speaker 4>you always want to see this, and he played well.

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<v Speaker 4>Besides this, I am now very very curious and interested

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<v Speaker 4>to watch the quarterbacks, the reserve quarterbacks the rest of

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<v Speaker 4>the preseason, which I wasn't before.

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<v Speaker 2>That play not remind you of that third quarter play

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<v Speaker 2>in Denver in twenty nineteen where Gardner Minshew was turned

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<v Speaker 2>inside out and bent over and ran around and found

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<v Speaker 2>Rockwall Armstead in the back of the end zone. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the first thing I thought of, is, oh, I've seen

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<v Speaker 2>that play before.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it's I want to see it a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of more times. Yeah, a consistency, because he looked much

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<v Speaker 4>much better in the game than he did in any

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<v Speaker 4>of the training camp practices, in any the OTAs. So

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't think he had a very good chance to

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<v Speaker 4>make the team before the other night, you know, or

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<v Speaker 4>I wasn't sure what was going to happen. Now you

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<v Speaker 4>have to go with game performance with quarterbacks more than practice.

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<v Speaker 4>So let's see it a couple more times, Let's see

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<v Speaker 4>him stack it, and then maybe it gets interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got a nice arm though. Yeah, yeah, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>some zip on that.

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<v Speaker 5>Were ready for another mania? Is that what you were

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<v Speaker 5>trying to say.

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<v Speaker 3>With the don't man yet?

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<v Speaker 2>No, And you're never gonna have that because you got

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<v Speaker 2>Trevor right, that's where the mania is, correct.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want to get to the point where that's

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening again.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, I've heard and read a lot about wow, what

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<v Speaker 2>a singular play. Well I saw in the regular season.

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<v Speaker 2>We all did, right and at the time when when

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<v Speaker 2>Minshew made that play, it like, whoa, maybe this kid

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<v Speaker 2>can play because that literally was the exact same play,

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<v Speaker 2>just going back the other way to a running back.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see what he can do for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the preseason and then maybe you know, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>here or elsewhere, you know, give himself a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that play guarantees he'll be on someone's ross.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he'll be around here.

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<v Speaker 4>It just be a matter of how it.

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely all right. Well, stay with us.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go over some of those plays from the rookies,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically that rookie class, that huge rookie class from last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and how they were able to come through in the

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<v Speaker 1>first preseason game. Welcome back to Jake Zam presented by Carshield.

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<v Speaker 1>of manufacturer's warranty, do not get stuck with expensive mechanical

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<v Speaker 1>and computer repairs.

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<v Speaker 5>Call car shield now. We finally have some football film

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<v Speaker 5>to go over.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the preseason, but that's when we get to

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<v Speaker 1>see the young guys play. We get to see what

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<v Speaker 1>they have, specifically this rookie class which was huge, and

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<v Speaker 1>some undrafted free agency and a couple of second year

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<v Speaker 1>guys that really, you know, maybe we're on the practice

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<v Speaker 1>squad last year, didn't get a lot of playing time

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<v Speaker 1>that we got to see in action.

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<v Speaker 5>We're going to start out with let's see what are

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<v Speaker 5>we going to start out with?

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<v Speaker 2>Tank?

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously we've been talking about Tank for quite some time.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and everybody sees this, but watch eighty five. Watch

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<v Speaker 2>the tight end make the block. I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 2>you can see it from that angle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can see it. It was in tough, Yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 5>It freedom up for that big, long run.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what you're looking for from a guy who

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<v Speaker 2>you draft in the second round, to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>contribute on both sides of the line. It's a great block.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's what they've been talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Was Strange as well as like you know, Evan Ingrom

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<v Speaker 1>and Doug has spoken about as well. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>may not be seeing as many catches Roun right now

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<v Speaker 1>because he's blocking and he's doing all the things they

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<v Speaker 1>want him to be doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's he drove his guy seven if you will,

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<v Speaker 2>exactly seven yards up heel.

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<v Speaker 4>He's I keep hearing how he's a run blocking tight

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<v Speaker 4>end and he's not a receiver.

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<v Speaker 5>I think he's both.

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<v Speaker 4>Every practice I see him make a good catch. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's a rookie. I don't see why he won't

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<v Speaker 4>get better and better in that area. And he's already

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<v Speaker 4>talking to people who understand blocking far more than I do.

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<v Speaker 3>He's already a high end blocker.

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<v Speaker 4>So if he supplements that by being an average receiver,

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<v Speaker 4>you've got a really good player there.

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<v Speaker 2>That's important because here's the name we have not brought

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<v Speaker 2>up in training camp. Chris Manhertz, who was here for

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<v Speaker 2>two years and a powerful part of the running game,

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<v Speaker 2>is now in Denver. So you're gonna need Breton Strange

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<v Speaker 2>and Luke Ferrell, who by all accounts are really good

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<v Speaker 2>blocking tight ends to be able to do some of that.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you think they're gonna carry for no matter what?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, totally, And in this day and age, you almost

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<v Speaker 4>have to because it does tight ends a disservice to

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<v Speaker 4>call them all the same thing, Meaning you basically have

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<v Speaker 4>Luke Farrow and Brittain Strange are your run tight ends,

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<v Speaker 4>and Angerman Prince are your move tight ends.

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<v Speaker 3>So teams keep two because you need a backup for

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<v Speaker 3>each starter at that spot essentially, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Strange has that ability to do both. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we've seen him on the practice hurt make excellent catches,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's not like he can't be that guy too.

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<v Speaker 1>He's going to be one that'll be to see where

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<v Speaker 1>he will be at the even the end of this season.

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<v Speaker 1>Second year, third year, I think is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>leaps and bounds just because of how quick he picks

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<v Speaker 1>things up.

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<v Speaker 4>He looks like a guy who could really be a

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<v Speaker 4>monster next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, time to bloss him in this offense. Get used

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<v Speaker 2>to what Doug wants to use with the tight ends.

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<v Speaker 5>Doug gloves this tight end.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, let's go to defense for our next player, because

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about him as well, when we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the fifty three, Yes, here Abdullah he was, his

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<v Speaker 1>presence was felt, is what I will say. In game

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<v Speaker 1>one he got a sack, which you know, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the pass rush all day. Here's your guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's coming in. He's got the moves. Jeff Logerman and

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<v Speaker 1>I were talking last week about he just feels like

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<v Speaker 1>Abdula has the sense, right, He just he knows what

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<v Speaker 1>he needs to do. He may not, you know, people

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<v Speaker 1>say he's undersize whatever it is, but he finds a way.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna make a movie. Fine, I'll do another move.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's just prepared in that way and has a

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<v Speaker 1>way of finding being where he needs to be at

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<v Speaker 1>any given time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'll be talking about him later in the show. Ryan,

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<v Speaker 4>So I want, I mean a great take that I

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<v Speaker 4>had that I don't want to bring.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right now, like the fifty six, here's the other thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, the guy was a really good pass rusher

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<v Speaker 2>at Louisville. Yeah, he played the run really well the

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<v Speaker 2>other day too. You know, they had a guy around

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<v Speaker 2>here for years named Unique and Gokway who was a

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<v Speaker 2>terrific pass rusher. But he was two hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>pounds and when he had to stop the run, he

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<v Speaker 2>was not a force. This guy is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a force. He's broad and he's strong, and he's built

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<v Speaker 2>to play the run as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I sure hope he does, because at the point, we

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<v Speaker 1>need a pass rusher, and as we've discussed, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>need that they have. So they need to build it

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<v Speaker 1>from within because even at this point they haven't brought

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<v Speaker 1>in yet.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's not a liability. It's not like when he's

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<v Speaker 2>on the field, you're gona go okay, we're going right there,

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<v Speaker 2>not at all.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Where else are We're gonna go okay, Now, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go to the offensive line because you know, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to represent Baker County as we do. It's it's tugboat

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<v Speaker 1>time because not only do we personally like Cooper Hodges.

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<v Speaker 1>He was out there for a good portion of this

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<v Speaker 1>game and he looked good at points.

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<v Speaker 2>And he set that up for Deornis Johnson.

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<v Speaker 5>He did. He was he was all over the place.

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<v Speaker 1>You can see him getting coached up by his fellow

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<v Speaker 1>offensive lineman. And he's a big man, so when he

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<v Speaker 1>sets a block and he's hustling there too, so tugboat

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<v Speaker 1>does cartwheels.

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<v Speaker 5>There's there's really little that this man can't do.

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<v Speaker 1>John, When do you see him maybe making his way

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<v Speaker 1>into the lineup on the offensive lines the next season?

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I would think next season. There's some guys Brian

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<v Speaker 4>who as soon as they get drafted and as soon

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<v Speaker 4>as they're here, you start hearing it in the water,

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<v Speaker 4>meaning the people are talking about him. Hey, keep an

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<v Speaker 4>eye on this guy, and the momentum sort of never stops.

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<v Speaker 4>He was a guy the first couple of OTAs where

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<v Speaker 4>you looked at and said, Okay, this is a big body.

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<v Speaker 3>He can move behind it.

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<v Speaker 4>He takes the right approach, He works in the locker room,

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<v Speaker 4>he sort of gets it.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a mature kid.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. I know you're gonna talk about this later

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<v Speaker 4>as well. Everything you hear and see. Ind case, he'll

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<v Speaker 4>start next year without a doubt, you know. And we're

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<v Speaker 4>jumping the shark on this one, but you know, your

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<v Speaker 4>right guard, your five time Pro Bowl right guard, is

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<v Speaker 4>a twenty four million dollar cap figure next year.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Jaguars, you know, they need to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to plug this kid in and have him be the

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<v Speaker 2>long term fixture there. Maybe Sheriff has an amazing year

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<v Speaker 2>and they decide to redo his deal. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but cap room is precious for this team going forward

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<v Speaker 2>because of the quarterback. So you need Hodges to be

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<v Speaker 2>that guy. It looks like he is. And on to

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<v Speaker 2>your point, he's making the move from four years starting

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<v Speaker 2>at right tackle to going inside. And you and I

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<v Speaker 2>were standing on the practice field talking to Trent Bulky

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<v Speaker 2>during OTAs and he came over and said that this

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<v Speaker 2>is a guy who's good every tool, that everything you

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<v Speaker 2>need mentally, physically, everything to be a long term starter

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<v Speaker 2>at guard. But he's got to do the work well.

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<v Speaker 2>Watching him pull, yeah, he's doing the work well. He

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<v Speaker 2>looks good.

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<v Speaker 4>And in this league you need you know, we all

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<v Speaker 4>spend all off season talking about the twenty two. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>once the season starts the twenty two, you need thirty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think they're deep on the offensive line. They

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<v Speaker 4>showed last year they were good depth, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>they supplemented that and kept that same depth equation if

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<v Speaker 4>you will. With Harris and for Taylor, I don't see

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<v Speaker 4>seeing he reads by a week nine or ten if

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<v Speaker 4>you have an injury. I don't It feels like he's

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<v Speaker 4>moving toward a guy that they're not going to have

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of angst if he would have to come

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<v Speaker 4>into the lineup late this season.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and you've seen instability at left guard right because

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<v Speaker 2>Big BArch, who by the way, has just been elevated

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<v Speaker 2>from the puplace today. He'll be practicing and maybe playing

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<v Speaker 2>this week or next week against the Dolphins. So you've

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<v Speaker 2>got submissibility with Tyler Shatley who's had the aphib issue

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<v Speaker 2>and you're not sure you know when he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to come back. So Hodges is one of

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<v Speaker 2>those guys that you know, if he's versatile, it can

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<v Speaker 2>play the left side, could be active on game day

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<v Speaker 2>as opposed to one of those scratches all season long.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would suspect by the time we get to

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<v Speaker 2>December he might be.

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<v Speaker 4>And my guess is the decision makers feel much much

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<v Speaker 4>better about that instability at guard knowing this kid's coming.

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<v Speaker 2>He's making this roster. There's no doubt, no doubt.

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<v Speaker 5>There for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Elsewhere are we on to look, Let's do some pun

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<v Speaker 1>returns because we saw Parker Washington out there decent amount

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<v Speaker 1>obviously of agnew so he's on anywhere but Parker Washington

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<v Speaker 1>is a good, viable option, and we've seen him return

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<v Speaker 1>some kicks, return some punts, and work his way into

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<v Speaker 1>the offense a little bit as well. But you have

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<v Speaker 1>to imagine he's someone that they enjoy the versatility that

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<v Speaker 1>he brings to the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Two things. One, it takes courage to be a punt returner,

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<v Speaker 2>and you just don't know how a guy is going

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<v Speaker 2>to react in the NFL with all these guys bearing

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<v Speaker 2>down on him. He had no problem with it. And second,

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<v Speaker 2>watch him use his feet here to set up the defender.

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked about how good his feet have looked through

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<v Speaker 2>a training camp and he shows it right there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's again a good piece to have if they

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<v Speaker 4>need a backup punt returner. And he feels like a

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<v Speaker 4>guy who is going to play his way by next

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<v Speaker 4>year into mattering in the receiving.

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<v Speaker 5>Group the mix for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>He just seems too fundamentally sound, too quick in the

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<v Speaker 4>right areas. I don't know if his high end is

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<v Speaker 4>Christian Kirk someday he's built similarly, but but he certainly

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<v Speaker 4>seems from an early early look like a guy who

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<v Speaker 4>can produce in the NFL minimum at.

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<v Speaker 2>A four or five. Kirk was the second round pick, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and and you see how smooth he is, but he's

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<v Speaker 2>he's this guy was drafted to be that guy, right,

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<v Speaker 2>to be that slot receiver who uses his feet to

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<v Speaker 2>gain separation in the middle of the field, and he'll

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<v Speaker 2>have a role. And I mean again, I think he's

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<v Speaker 2>on this roster. I think he's got one of the

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<v Speaker 2>six receiver spots.

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 4>From the first practice of ot AS when he was there,

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<v Speaker 4>he's never looked lost, never, and that's encouraging and I

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<v Speaker 4>needed it. Strange, you know, both from Penn State, but

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<v Speaker 4>they both looked like they belonged.

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<v Speaker 3>Very very quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>U usually guys that look like that bare minimum contribute

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<v Speaker 4>for you for a few years.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what you went out of the draft.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, he's in my mind locked up the fifth spot

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<v Speaker 1>on the wide receivers. And then I feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>six spot is the one that's kind of up for

0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:03.760
<v Speaker 1>grabs for people. And then finally we want to do

0:20:04.240 --> 0:20:07.439
<v Speaker 1>Chris Braswell's interception, because we did talk about the defense

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<v Speaker 1>and who needs to step up and kind of make

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<v Speaker 1>themselves known because there isn't a ton of depth in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the dB positions and and.

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<v Speaker 5>This was good to see it.

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<v Speaker 3>But they really really like this kid. Yeah, he's he's uh.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Doug talked about him on on on the

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<v Speaker 4>Zoom call this morning. His athleticism, he's and if Doug

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<v Speaker 4>said this or not, but it struck you when Doug

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<v Speaker 4>was talking, He's talking.

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<v Speaker 3>About a kid who knows how to play football.

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<v Speaker 4>Some guys are athletes and they and they're not natural players.

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<v Speaker 4>This kid, everything you hear, he has great instincts. He

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<v Speaker 4>can play. My sense is they think this guy, if

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<v Speaker 4>not this year, next year, is going to factor into

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<v Speaker 4>the five or six dvs are on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's important to note that that interception came in

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth quarter after he had two penalties, right, the

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<v Speaker 2>one that took away the interception and another illegal contact.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was having a rough day, but he hung

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<v Speaker 2>in there, and that's what they want to see from

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<v Speaker 2>these kids. Can you hang in there? Can you overcome that?

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<v Speaker 2>And can you stay focused on the next play? As

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<v Speaker 2>a cornerback, you know they talk about the island all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. You're on that island, can you stay on it?

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<v Speaker 2>And he did and made a great play and.

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<v Speaker 4>He's still fighting through one of the first couple of

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<v Speaker 4>days of camp, he pulled up on a deep route.

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<v Speaker 4>He called that, Yeah, he was following somebody and it

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<v Speaker 4>looked like a hammy. I'm assuming he was a hammy.

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<v Speaker 4>So he's still sort of getting back to it. But again,

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<v Speaker 4>I know, Brian, he's gonna talk about it later. A

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<v Speaker 4>litany of rookies who were encouraging on Saturday, a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>Of good stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>We got our hot takes coming up after the break,

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<v Speaker 1>the hottest of hot takes after we've seen preseason game one.

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<v Speaker 5>So stay with us to find out what they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Jags Am. We're here in the Hyundai

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<v Speaker 1>studios and we're gonna do hot takes. We got a

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<v Speaker 1>little game action, we got to see a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of what the team might be bringing to the table.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're gonna start off with hot takes. Brian, I

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<v Speaker 1>will start with you today.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this has a chance to be the best

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<v Speaker 2>draft in Jaguars history. And here's why. Because I count

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<v Speaker 2>John eight guys who legitimately by the end of next

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<v Speaker 2>season could be starters, if not starters in the sense

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<v Speaker 2>really key players, right, Anton Harrison will be a starter.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Breton Strange is going to be a starter.

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<v Speaker 2>Tank Bigsby I think could be a starter, if not

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<v Speaker 2>a starter. He's one of those guys. He's gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of right, Yeah, right, Jackson, Ventrel Miller, Parker Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>Yasira Abdullah, Antonio Johnson, and I just added Christian Brasswell

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<v Speaker 2>on your recommendation. So that's eight of thirteen guys that

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<v Speaker 2>based on what we saw first two weeks of camp

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<v Speaker 2>and how they pay it off in Dallas. You can

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<v Speaker 2>look and go, yep, yep, yep, you could have eight

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<v Speaker 2>starters out of one draft. You get that. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>tremendous draft. That would be the most productive draft in

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<v Speaker 2>Jaguars history.

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<v Speaker 3>You have the best draft in Jaguars history.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 3>If he can trevor that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, I mean you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I changed from best to preduc Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I agree.

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<v Speaker 4>And even if all those guys didn't work out, because

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<v Speaker 4>I think a couple of them Ventrel Miller. You wonder

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<v Speaker 4>if with Lloyd and Muma inside there uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Looked on as a twenty three million dollar cap figure.

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<v Speaker 4>Coming up, right, But Lloyd and Muma could still well

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<v Speaker 4>But you mean starter, right, And I don't have any

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<v Speaker 4>doubt that everybody you mentioned will matter over the next

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<v Speaker 4>two or three years, whether it's starter with Parker Washington,

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<v Speaker 4>whether he's a starter, or or whether he's catching forty

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<v Speaker 4>for six sixty or you feel very good if somebody's

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<v Speaker 4>injured and he comes in, and that's what you need

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<v Speaker 4>at a draft, becial when you have thirteen. Clearly that's

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<v Speaker 4>what they wanted. They felt like they were not deep

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<v Speaker 4>enough and if they needed to get talent in here

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<v Speaker 4>for the next four years, there's a lot of confidence

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<v Speaker 4>they did. Tyler Lacy, who you didn't mention. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if he's ever a starter, right, be a role player,

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<v Speaker 4>but you need eight or nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's nine by Cooper Hodges. I forgot him on the list.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, yeah, there's I mean, this looks like the

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<v Speaker 2>most productive draft. It's got to play out, obviously, but

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<v Speaker 2>I would think by the end of twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 2>you could look at this draft and say There's never

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<v Speaker 2>been a draft that good. So hats off to Trent Bulky.

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<v Speaker 3>And he didn't mention my guy. You see her.

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<v Speaker 2>Abdula, Sure I did. Oh you did well?

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<v Speaker 4>That was my takeaway, and it's a hot take because

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<v Speaker 4>of this. I have no confidence in most rookies to

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<v Speaker 4>give you anything that will help you be a better

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<v Speaker 4>team in your rookie year. And I'm exaggerating that. I've

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<v Speaker 4>just seen so much where their learning and then the

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<v Speaker 4>next year they're just really good. This kid might be

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<v Speaker 4>able to give them some pass rush and some impact.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's going to.

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<v Speaker 4>Start, but you need three or four guys who in

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<v Speaker 4>your packages can affect the quarterback. He was playing against

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<v Speaker 4>second team the other night. But as logs Is said,

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<v Speaker 4>often there's a natural element to that sometimes, and this

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<v Speaker 4>kid seems to have it. They knew in Indianapolis when

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<v Speaker 4>I was covering them that Robert Mathis, a fifth round

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<v Speaker 4>draft pick, had three and a half sacks as a

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<v Speaker 4>rookie in his second year. They all said, this kid

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<v Speaker 4>is going to be a pro bowler someday. And I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to compare the du a bit of Mathis

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<v Speaker 4>because Mathis might go in the Hall someday, but there's

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<v Speaker 4>an element there of a young kid who bare minimum

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<v Speaker 4>can affect the pocket this.

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<v Speaker 2>Year, from the moment he stepped on the practice field,

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<v Speaker 2>you knew he belonged absolutely, And then that's high pricks,

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<v Speaker 2>especially from veteran football players. But talking to these guys,

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<v Speaker 2>they have all said that he belongs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's cool because now that we've entered that point of

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<v Speaker 1>where you have your base of your team already set,

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<v Speaker 1>they're drafting to develop as the term goes. But that

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<v Speaker 1>means you come in and you have a specific role

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<v Speaker 1>to fill. You're not coming in trying to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with what Trevor had to deal with him coming

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<v Speaker 1>in and being the man immediately. Not everybody can do

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<v Speaker 1>that or thrives in that environment. And there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these people where Tanks coming in, he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>work with Travis. He's not just the guy we see

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<v Speaker 1>Brenton come in. He gets to learn from a great

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<v Speaker 1>tight end room. Anton Harrison has a loaded offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>that he's working with to help him every single day,

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<v Speaker 1>and he'll have a little more time to maybe get

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<v Speaker 1>up to size. I mean, he's a huge person to

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<v Speaker 1>be in with, so I say, get up to size,

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<v Speaker 1>but put on a little more bulk and then by

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<v Speaker 1>the time you know, second third year, he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be even better.

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<v Speaker 4>So there have been way too many years where everybody

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<v Speaker 4>you mentioned Brian would have been starting.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's not the best development for a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 5>It really isn't.

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<v Speaker 1>So to be able to have that luxury at this

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<v Speaker 1>point point that really sets the team up to be

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<v Speaker 1>successful for many, many years to come, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>we want to talk about, where it's like, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>team is not just going to be a one and

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<v Speaker 1>done situation. It's like we are building this to be

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<v Speaker 1>good for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 2>And just one more noteal quick. You mentioned Tyler Lacy

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<v Speaker 2>has a chance to play well. I talked to him

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<v Speaker 2>last week coming off the practice field. He looks gassed.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't whether he noticed it every day off the

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<v Speaker 2>practice field gassed. He's from Texas, Oklahoma State. I said,

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<v Speaker 2>it can't be the heat. He said no, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to prove every play that I belong. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like every play I have to find a way

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<v Speaker 2>to stay well. It's that kind of attitude, that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of approach gets your places.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a rare guy. And sow Is Hodges in the

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<v Speaker 4>sense that usually with rookie lineman and Anton Harrison fits

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<v Speaker 4>this a little bit. You can see where Anton in

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<v Speaker 4>a year in the weight room is going to look

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<v Speaker 4>more like Juwan Taylor did when he left and really

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<v Speaker 4>be one of the top offensive tab He's gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 4>But once he gets size and strength, his man's strength,

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<v Speaker 4>so to speak, he'll take you to a next level.

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<v Speaker 4>Look at Hodges and Lacey physically, they already look there

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<v Speaker 4>and most rookies don't look that way. So that's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>be interesting to watch these young linemen they brought in.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys went with the young guys. I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>with someone a veteran presence on this team, going with

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Kirk.

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<v Speaker 5>That's my hot take. It's he is the lynch pin

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<v Speaker 5>for this offense. And I know we talk.

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<v Speaker 1>A ton about what Calvin is going to bring to

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<v Speaker 1>this team and Trevor's.

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<v Speaker 5>Development, all the other core that he has around him.

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<v Speaker 1>This ship is this is going to be successful if

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<v Speaker 1>as far as Christian Kirk can take it, because he

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<v Speaker 1>has become the person that Trevor trusts and he goes

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<v Speaker 1>to and feels he can throw it to no matter what.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's similar when we talked a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots earlier, how I felt Brady really worked with

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<v Speaker 1>Welker and then Edelman later on in his career. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>he throws to Randy Moss who's got twenty plus touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 1>but Welker had the most targets and the most yards

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of those seasons where they played together

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<v Speaker 1>because that was his safety guy. He knew, he trusted everything,

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<v Speaker 1>He knew everything about the mannerisms for Tom Brady. And

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Christian Kirk has worked so much with

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<v Speaker 1>Trevor that he's really getting to that point where he

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<v Speaker 1>knows he can be where he needs to be. He

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<v Speaker 1>knows what Trevor's mannerisms are, where he prefers what he prefers,

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<v Speaker 1>And when you have that type of relationship with your quarterback,

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:13.080
<v Speaker 1>that is invaluable, especially when you know people are doubling

0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 1>up Calvin or that opens up the field for everybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't agree more. I think Christian's number one on

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<v Speaker 4>that list. It will probably take him a little while

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<v Speaker 4>to get it with Ridley because there just has to

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<v Speaker 4>be some game stuff where you just trust what's going

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<v Speaker 4>to be there. But I have no doubt watching Calvin

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<v Speaker 4>it's going to be there. The intriguing thing is, you

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<v Speaker 4>do feel like Trevor right now has at least four

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<v Speaker 4>guys who are primary weapons who can beat single coverage,

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<v Speaker 4>who he's completely comfortable throwing to. Jimmy and Keenan still

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<v Speaker 4>remain the best two wide receivers tandem in franchise history.

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<v Speaker 4>They didn't have three and four like this. This is

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<v Speaker 4>this is this is intriguing.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't all that Christian Kirk was the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>got free as Trevor was so patient in the pocket

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:08.800
<v Speaker 2>and made that beautiful throw. I would agree that he

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<v Speaker 2>is one A. In terms of connection, I would say

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 2>Evan Ingram is one bee. I mean just a hair

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 2>behind him. Watching them on the practice field and the

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:20.440
<v Speaker 2>way that they work. So he's got guys that he

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:23.080
<v Speaker 2>has connections within Zay, but he got Zay in the

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<v Speaker 2>back of the end zone too. He won't take long

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 2>on Ridley. That's what makes me so optimistic. And I

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:31.959
<v Speaker 2>even think about an interception. The relationship he has with

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:34.560
<v Speaker 2>these guys, the connection he has with these guys, find

0:30:34.600 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 2>another quarterback in the league, maybe outside of my homes,

0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:41.600
<v Speaker 2>maybe Burrow in Cincinnati that has this many targets that

0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 2>he's connected to so strongly.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you mentioned Za, and I know we'll get out

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:50.280
<v Speaker 4>of this segment. To me, Zay's had the quietest, really

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 4>really solid camp going every day. When I look at

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 4>my notes, he's had two or three catches fifteen to

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:59.240
<v Speaker 4>twenty yards. The trust there a donut, you know, I

0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 4>don't know if you have a yards and he'll have

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<v Speaker 4>ten touchdowns. What you know about Zay, He'll have at

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<v Speaker 4>least five catches that you remember at the end of

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<v Speaker 4>the season for touchdowns where you say, Okay, that got

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<v Speaker 4>him the game, and he had about that.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>Weapons that matter that make you better on offense.

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<v Speaker 5>Can't wait to see.

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<v Speaker 1>It all come together, all right, say with us, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna preview what we got going on the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the week. We had to Detroit and let you know

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<v Speaker 1>For fans, and we talked a little bit about that

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<v Speaker 1>Nathan Rourke play. You know, he's falling down, he gets

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<v Speaker 1>the touchdown. They played it in the stadium for his

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<v Speaker 1>old team during their game. Of course, his teammates where

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<v Speaker 1>he played in the CFL last season, and then obviously

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<v Speaker 1>they were very excited to see their teammate doing so

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<v Speaker 1>well here in pre season and hopefully making a name

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<v Speaker 1>for himself.

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<v Speaker 5>But pretty cool to see there.

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<v Speaker 1>And hopefully we'll see a little bit more of work

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<v Speaker 1>when we head to Detroit this week because we're doing

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<v Speaker 1>joint practice for the couple days this week and then

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<v Speaker 1>they're playing the Lions on Saturday. So what do you

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<v Speaker 1>guys enjoy most about kind of joint practice? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>just seeing new people, seeing your team go up against

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<v Speaker 1>some different players.

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<v Speaker 2>I like validating opinions, right, I mean, because you can

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<v Speaker 2>see Calvin Ridley line up against I don't choose a

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<v Speaker 2>young cornerback and think, well, Calvin really is having the

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<v Speaker 2>best camp possible. Right now, You're gonna go line up

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<v Speaker 2>against the ones in Detroit. Okay, let's see you do it.

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<v Speaker 5>What's going to look like?

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<v Speaker 2>I fully anticipate that he will, but it validates opinions.

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<v Speaker 2>If Gregory Junior goes up and has a big day

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<v Speaker 2>on the practice field. Yep, okay, he's making the progress.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's a week where the reps between ones during

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<v Speaker 4>practice a matter is my which is what the fans

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<v Speaker 4>will see during the game. Like there's a chance some

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<v Speaker 4>starters may play less on Saturday because of the because

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<v Speaker 4>they feel like they've got the reps.

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<v Speaker 3>And Doug alluded to it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't put words in his mouth, but that there

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<v Speaker 4>could be some younger guys, the greg junior level player

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<v Speaker 4>who's not necessarily a starter, who they could want to

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<v Speaker 4>get reps against ones to give them that experience. This

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<v Speaker 4>is the meat time of this process.

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<v Speaker 2>So Bucky and I get to sit with the coach

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<v Speaker 2>and some players the night before the game as we're

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<v Speaker 2>doing our preseason production meetings, and we had a long

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with Doug about the value of these matchups, and

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<v Speaker 2>he said that every rep on the practice field is

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<v Speaker 2>as valuable as any rep in a game in the preseason.

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<v Speaker 1>That's saying something I think it is and I think

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see a lot of that, and it's just exciting

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<v Speaker 1>to see the competitive nature of it. You know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>not going against your own team, so it'll a lit'll

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit different out there. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be live for jags AM on Wednesday and Thursday at

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit's training camp and hopefully a little bit cooler there,

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<v Speaker 1>so we'll be outside and.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot cooler there.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm looking forward to. Please join us on Wednesday and Thursday.

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<v Speaker 5>We will see you then.

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<v Speaker 1>As for until then, have a good one.