1 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Welcome into Jagson, presented by Carshield. It's Monday, August fourteenth. 2 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: We have Jaguars actual football to talk about in terms 3 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: of they played a preseason game, which we've been dying 4 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: for because we've been you know, sweating mount in the 5 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: sun at training camp. So things are legit, and I 6 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: think some of the younger players we've been talking about 7 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: really came out and showed out. And that was what 8 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,840 Speaker 1: I was most impressed by from that game. 9 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 2: I think all the rookies did. I mean, maybe you 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: could say Eric Hallett, but you just go down the 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: line and every one of them. John did something that 12 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: was noteworthy. 13 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's what you look for. 14 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 4: I've gotten a striking number of emails from people upset 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 4: about this or that, and the first team offense didn't 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 4: start fast. And look Doug talk this morning. He wants 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 4: to start faster. 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 3: But is there a big concern on your part. 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 4: That the offense isn't gonna be good? None, So relax 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 4: about the offense until we see it a couple of 21 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 4: regular season games not work, It's gonna work. What you 22 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 4: wanted out of this was to see the young players 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 4: you wanted to see guys. As they step up, they 24 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 4: certainly seem deeper. I thought the depth issue was overrated 25 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 4: last year. I thought they were fairly deep in key spots. 26 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 4: But it looks like they have some young guys who 27 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 4: are gonna be key and good for the future of 28 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 4: this franchise. 29 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 2: And by the way, apologies to Derek Parrish and Eric 30 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: Hallett if they did something. You know, I didn't see 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 2: every Worokie do something, but as I went through my list, 32 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 2: there were a lot of guys that did, and to me, 33 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: that's what matters the most. 34 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: And we're gonna be talking a ton about that today. 35 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: But let's start off with big things. Because third drive 36 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: was the charm for Trevor. We thought we would see 37 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: the starters for maybe one or two drives. Obviously Trevor 38 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: Lawrence throwing that interception on the first drive, and then 39 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, they punted on the second drive. 40 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 5: It's obviously a bit. 41 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: Of a I think Duck said the ball slipped out 42 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: of his hands there, but just a mistake. You know, 43 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: he just shouldn't have either thrown out of bounds or 44 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: you know, let that play go. 45 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 5: But they did bounce back from that, right. 46 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: They got the fumble on the punt and they were 47 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: able to get the ball back on that third possession. 48 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: They put the stage back out there and then you 49 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: saw the drive that you wanted to see, right. You 50 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: want to see them finish strong and to get that 51 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: touchdown pass to Christian Kirk. They went for the two 52 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: point conversion as well, and I think John were encouraged 53 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: that at least they were able to kind of finish 54 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: things off after a little bit of. 55 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 5: Rocky start there. 56 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you want to see him smooth it out 57 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 4: over the long run. But this is sort of what 58 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 4: Trevor is. I mean, he he. 59 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 3: Gets it going. 60 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 4: It can take him a while to get started, and 61 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 4: it took him ahi to get stared the other night. 62 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 4: I'm not worried about the interception. I'm not worried about 63 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 4: anything on this offense. But you know, if they had 64 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 4: stopped the game after three series against the Chargers last year, 65 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 4: but it gets fired, Yeah, I mean, I'm exaggera and 66 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 4: they weren't gona get fired. But you know, so football 67 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 4: is a sixty minute game. This is what this team 68 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 4: sort of is. If this was a game, they hung 69 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 4: in there, they shut them out, and then they got 70 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 4: to turn over and went in and scored. 71 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 2: That's football. 72 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 4: This team takes advantage of opportunities. I'm starting to think 73 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 4: of of Trevor's sort of an adrenaline quarterback and when 74 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 4: he gets it going and all of a sudden, it 75 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 4: can turn to magic. And his last two throws were 76 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 4: both scores, So stop worrying about the first one so much. 77 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 4: The offense is gonna be fine. 78 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: People were because they enjoy it, right, I mean, there 79 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 2: are people that like defining the negative in something and 80 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 2: then work their way through it. He's still a young quarterback. 81 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: He's got thirty six career starts, thirty four in the 82 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: regular season, so that's nothing that concerns me. I'll tell 83 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 2: you what I lot. 84 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 4: I guess what, Brian, this team's not going to score 85 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 4: in every possession this year. If they did, that would 86 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 4: be some sort of record, and they're probably gonna win 87 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 4: every game. 88 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: So you relax, I will. I don't want to point 89 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: at one thing. The thing that I liked the most 90 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: about the touchdown throw at about the two point was 91 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: how patient he was in the pocket, how he just 92 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: you know, and you covered the Patriots, so you know this. 93 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: When Tom Brady was at his best. He moved in 94 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: about a three foot circle, you know, radius in the pocket, 95 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: not very much, just enough to sort of avoid and 96 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 2: slide and get the vision that he needed. That's exactly 97 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: what Trevor did. And the other thing is that we 98 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 2: talked about second year in the systems. Second year with 99 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 2: these guys together, both Kirk and Jones worked their way open. 100 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 2: The quarterback was patient, they knew where they needed to be, 101 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: and they made the place. That's the second year factor 102 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: that we have been talking about since the spring. 103 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: I did like a lot of what I saw on 104 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: that third drive for them. I do have a Patriots 105 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: comparison coming up in hot takes because I did see 106 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: something very reminiscent there, which bodes well for this team. 107 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: As for our big thing number two, that's the youth movement. 108 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: So let's take a couple a look at some of 109 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: these plays that we had from Gregory Junior, because we 110 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: know Brian's been talking about him for a while now 111 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,119 Speaker 1: and he really came through. 112 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 2: Well, look when you watch this guy, watch how fast 113 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 2: he gets where he's going and then how violently he arrives. 114 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: I mean, he's bang. You see him, he shows up, 115 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: he pops off the tape, and what impresses me is that, 116 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: you know, he's a guy that shows up from Watchita 117 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: Baptist Naia Division two school and in a short time 118 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: is making plays like that against guys who are competing 119 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: for jobs on the Cowboys roster. That was early in 120 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: the game. Those guys are competing for those special teams jobs. 121 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: And everything we saw from the digress in terms of 122 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: special teams, we've been talking about it for weeks now 123 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: about you know, making your mark there and that's how 124 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: you get your roster spot. And there's got to be 125 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: you know, probably five six players I saw making plays 126 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: that could get themselves a spot from that. 127 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: By the way, he is not just competing for a 128 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: special team's job this year, for the starting nickelback role 129 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: because he's good in the middle of the field. 130 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think he's going to start at nickel 131 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 4: this year. I think they's going to get to Trey Herndon. 132 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 3: But he's. 133 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 4: What they needed desperately coming into this camp was for 134 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 4: some of this abyss of young corners meaning Braswell and 135 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 4: Junior and Brown, for somebody to step up where you 136 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 4: felt good about four, five and six, you know, exactly. 137 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 4: The three is where I'm just saying he can't get 138 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 4: to that third spot. But I would think it's going 139 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 4: to be Trey. But you wanted, you know, coming into camp, 140 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 4: you worried if any of those guys are out, who's 141 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 4: you've seen nothing. Credit to Tim Jones who forced the 142 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,840 Speaker 4: first fumble and showed again why it's going to be 143 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 4: tough to have him not on the roster. 144 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 2: Hold on on it. I mean, I know Trade's been 145 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 2: around here for a while, but people that I talked 146 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: to say that that is real, that Trey Herndon and 147 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: Gregory Jr. Are locked in a battle for this job. 148 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: And it's not just going to be given to the 149 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: veteran because he's got more starts in a young player, 150 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: you know, with some uptick. There also one more name 151 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: we should mention, Devod Wilson, who had an interception that 152 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 2: was nullified by a penalty on Christian Braswell on the 153 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 2: other side of the field for illegal contact. So it 154 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 2: wasn't just brass Well and and the other draft picks 155 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 2: and Greg Jr. To Vod Wilson, the undrafted rule who 156 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 2: came from Georgia who we've talked about on this show 157 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: as well came through with a big play too. 158 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: That's exactly what you want to see in the preseason, 159 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: these names that we've been talking about, that's where you 160 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: need to show out and do that. And we're going 161 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: to go over a bunch of that in the B 162 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: Block Courage just after the break. We're going to come 163 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,559 Speaker 1: back and talk about a bunch of those young players, 164 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: specifically the draft picks and what they were able to 165 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: do in the game, and a round things out with 166 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: our big thing Number three, Canada's favorite Son. Because Nathan 167 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: Rourke had a play that ever has been blowing up 168 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: absolutely everywhere, and I was on the sideline that it 169 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: went down on and I was I myself just I 170 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: think I was just like, no way, this man doing 171 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: this right now because I was like, why is he 172 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: doing it? And then I was like, oh wait, there's 173 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: a chance here, because at this point I was like. 174 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 5: Wait, wait, wait, what are we doing? What are we doing? 175 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: And then it's like, oh wait, he's gonna throw it. 176 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 5: It's impressive. 177 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, big time play. 178 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 4: I mean it's it's uh, let's pump the brakes on, 179 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 4: putt him in the Hall of Fame and he's. 180 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 5: In Canada's Hall of Fame. Thank you should be. 181 00:07:58,760 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 3: A some Jaguars fan. 182 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 4: He was the Canadian player there understandably going nuts and 183 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 4: you always want to see this, and he played well. 184 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 4: Besides this, I am now very very curious and interested 185 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 4: to watch the quarterbacks, the reserve quarterbacks the rest of 186 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 4: the preseason, which I wasn't before. 187 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: That play not remind you of that third quarter play 188 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: in Denver in twenty nineteen where Gardner Minshew was turned 189 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: inside out and bent over and ran around and found 190 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: Rockwall Armstead in the back of the end zone. That's 191 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: the first thing I thought of, is, oh, I've seen 192 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: that play before. 193 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's I want to see it a couple 194 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 4: of more times. Yeah, a consistency, because he looked much 195 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 4: much better in the game than he did in any 196 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 4: of the training camp practices, in any the OTAs. So 197 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 4: I didn't think he had a very good chance to 198 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 4: make the team before the other night, you know, or 199 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 4: I wasn't sure what was going to happen. Now you 200 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 4: have to go with game performance with quarterbacks more than practice. 201 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 4: So let's see it a couple more times, Let's see 202 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 4: him stack it, and then maybe it gets interesting. 203 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 2: He's got a nice arm though. Yeah, yeah, you've got 204 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: some zip on that. 205 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 5: Were ready for another mania? Is that what you were 206 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 5: trying to say. 207 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 3: With the don't man yet? 208 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 2: No, And you're never gonna have that because you got 209 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 2: Trevor right, that's where the mania is, correct. 210 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: We don't want to get to the point where that's 211 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: what's happening again. 212 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: Obviously, I've heard and read a lot about wow, what 213 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 2: a singular play. Well I saw in the regular season. 214 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: We all did, right and at the time when when 215 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: Minshew made that play, it like, whoa, maybe this kid 216 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: can play because that literally was the exact same play, 217 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 2: just going back the other way to a running back. 218 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: So we'll see what he can do for the rest 219 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: of the preseason and then maybe you know, whether it's 220 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: here or elsewhere, you know, give himself a chance. 221 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: Oh, that play guarantees he'll be on someone's ross. 222 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 3: I think he'll be around here. 223 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 4: It just be a matter of how it. 224 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 5: Absolutely all right. Well, stay with us. 225 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna go over some of those plays from the rookies, 226 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: specifically that rookie class, that huge rookie class from last year, 227 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 1: and how they were able to come through in the 228 00:09:55,440 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 1: first preseason game. Welcome back to Jake Zam presented by Carshield. 229 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: You can call car shield now. If your cars out 230 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: of manufacturer's warranty, do not get stuck with expensive mechanical 231 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: and computer repairs. 232 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 5: Call car shield now. We finally have some football film 233 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 5: to go over. 234 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: It is the preseason, but that's when we get to 235 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: see the young guys play. We get to see what 236 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: they have, specifically this rookie class which was huge, and 237 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,199 Speaker 1: some undrafted free agency and a couple of second year 238 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: guys that really, you know, maybe we're on the practice 239 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: squad last year, didn't get a lot of playing time 240 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: that we got to see in action. 241 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 5: We're going to start out with let's see what are 242 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 5: we going to start out with? 243 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: Tank? 244 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 5: Obviously we've been talking about Tank for quite some time. 245 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,199 Speaker 2: Right and everybody sees this, but watch eighty five. Watch 246 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: the tight end make the block. I'm not sure if 247 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: you can see it from that angle. 248 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can see it. It was in tough, Yeah it was. 249 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 5: It freedom up for that big, long run. 250 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 2: And that's what you're looking for from a guy who 251 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 2: you draft in the second round, to be able to 252 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: contribute on both sides of the line. It's a great block. 253 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 5: And that's what they've been talking about. 254 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: Was Strange as well as like you know, Evan Ingrom 255 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: and Doug has spoken about as well. You know, you 256 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: may not be seeing as many catches Roun right now 257 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: because he's blocking and he's doing all the things they 258 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: want him to be doing. 259 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 2: And that's he drove his guy seven if you will, 260 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 2: exactly seven yards up heel. 261 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 4: He's I keep hearing how he's a run blocking tight 262 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 4: end and he's not a receiver. 263 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 5: I think he's both. 264 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 4: Every practice I see him make a good catch. Yeah, 265 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 4: and he's a rookie. I don't see why he won't 266 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 4: get better and better in that area. And he's already 267 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 4: talking to people who understand blocking far more than I do. 268 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 3: He's already a high end blocker. 269 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 4: So if he supplements that by being an average receiver, 270 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 4: you've got a really good player there. 271 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 2: That's important because here's the name we have not brought 272 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 2: up in training camp. Chris Manhertz, who was here for 273 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: two years and a powerful part of the running game, 274 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: is now in Denver. So you're gonna need Breton Strange 275 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 2: and Luke Ferrell, who by all accounts are really good 276 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 2: blocking tight ends to be able to do some of that. 277 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 5: Do you think they're gonna carry for no matter what? 278 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:04,439 Speaker 4: Yes, totally, And in this day and age, you almost 279 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 4: have to because it does tight ends a disservice to 280 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 4: call them all the same thing, Meaning you basically have 281 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 4: Luke Farrow and Brittain Strange are your run tight ends, 282 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 4: and Angerman Prince are your move tight ends. 283 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: So teams keep two because you need a backup for 284 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: each starter at that spot essentially, and. 285 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: I think Strange has that ability to do both. I mean, 286 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: we've seen him on the practice hurt make excellent catches, 287 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: so it's not like he can't be that guy too. 288 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: He's going to be one that'll be to see where 289 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: he will be at the even the end of this season. 290 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: Second year, third year, I think is going to be 291 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: leaps and bounds just because of how quick he picks 292 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: things up. 293 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 4: He looks like a guy who could really be a 294 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 4: monster next year. 295 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, time to bloss him in this offense. Get used 296 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 2: to what Doug wants to use with the tight ends. 297 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 5: Doug gloves this tight end. 298 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: Yes, let's go to defense for our next player, because 299 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: we've been talking about him as well, when we talk 300 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: about the fifty three, Yes, here Abdullah he was, his 301 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: presence was felt, is what I will say. In game 302 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: one he got a sack, which you know, you want 303 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: to talk about the pass rush all day. Here's your guy. 304 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: He's coming in. He's got the moves. Jeff Logerman and 305 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: I were talking last week about he just feels like 306 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: Abdula has the sense, right, He just he knows what 307 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: he needs to do. He may not, you know, people 308 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: say he's undersize whatever it is, but he finds a way. 309 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: He's gonna make a movie. Fine, I'll do another move. 310 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: Like he's just prepared in that way and has a 311 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: way of finding being where he needs to be at 312 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 1: any given time. 313 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll be talking about him later in the show. Ryan, 314 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 4: So I want, I mean a great take that I 315 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 4: had that I don't want to bring. 316 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, like the fifty six, here's the other thing. 317 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 2: And look, the guy was a really good pass rusher 318 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 2: at Louisville. Yeah, he played the run really well the 319 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: other day too. You know, they had a guy around 320 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 2: here for years named Unique and Gokway who was a 321 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: terrific pass rusher. But he was two hundred and twenty 322 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: pounds and when he had to stop the run, he 323 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 2: was not a force. This guy is going to be 324 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: a force. He's broad and he's strong, and he's built 325 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: to play the run as well. 326 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: I sure hope he does, because at the point, we 327 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: need a pass rusher, and as we've discussed, that's a 328 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: need that they have. So they need to build it 329 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: from within because even at this point they haven't brought 330 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: in yet. 331 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: And he's not a liability. It's not like when he's 332 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 2: on the field, you're gona go okay, we're going right there, 333 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 2: not at all. 334 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 5: I think it's great. 335 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: Where else are We're gonna go okay, Now, we're gonna 336 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: go to the offensive line because you know, we have 337 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: to represent Baker County as we do. It's it's tugboat 338 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: time because not only do we personally like Cooper Hodges. 339 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: He was out there for a good portion of this 340 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: game and he looked good at points. 341 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: And he set that up for Deornis Johnson. 342 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 5: He did. He was he was all over the place. 343 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: You can see him getting coached up by his fellow 344 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. And he's a big man, so when he 345 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: sets a block and he's hustling there too, so tugboat 346 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: does cartwheels. 347 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 5: There's there's really little that this man can't do. 348 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: John, When do you see him maybe making his way 349 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: into the lineup on the offensive lines the next season? 350 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 5: Maybe? 351 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 4: Well, I would think next season. There's some guys Brian 352 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 4: who as soon as they get drafted and as soon 353 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 4: as they're here, you start hearing it in the water, 354 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 4: meaning the people are talking about him. Hey, keep an 355 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 4: eye on this guy, and the momentum sort of never stops. 356 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 4: He was a guy the first couple of OTAs where 357 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 4: you looked at and said, Okay, this is a big body. 358 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 3: He can move behind it. 359 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 4: He takes the right approach, He works in the locker room, 360 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 4: he sort of gets it. 361 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: He's a mature kid. 362 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 4: You know. I know you're gonna talk about this later 363 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 4: as well. Everything you hear and see. Ind case, he'll 364 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 4: start next year without a doubt, you know. And we're 365 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 4: jumping the shark on this one, but you know, your 366 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 4: right guard, your five time Pro Bowl right guard, is 367 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 4: a twenty four million dollar cap figure next year. 368 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: So the Jaguars, you know, they need to be able 369 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: to plug this kid in and have him be the 370 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: long term fixture there. Maybe Sheriff has an amazing year 371 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: and they decide to redo his deal. I don't know, 372 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: but cap room is precious for this team going forward 373 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: because of the quarterback. So you need Hodges to be 374 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: that guy. It looks like he is. And on to 375 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: your point, he's making the move from four years starting 376 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: at right tackle to going inside. And you and I 377 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 2: were standing on the practice field talking to Trent Bulky 378 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 2: during OTAs and he came over and said that this 379 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: is a guy who's good every tool, that everything you 380 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 2: need mentally, physically, everything to be a long term starter 381 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: at guard. But he's got to do the work well. 382 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 2: Watching him pull, yeah, he's doing the work well. He 383 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: looks good. 384 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 4: And in this league you need you know, we all 385 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 4: spend all off season talking about the twenty two. Well, 386 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 4: once the season starts the twenty two, you need thirty five. 387 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: Ye. 388 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 4: And I think they're deep on the offensive line. They 389 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 4: showed last year they were good depth, and I think 390 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 4: they supplemented that and kept that same depth equation if 391 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 4: you will. With Harris and for Taylor, I don't see 392 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 4: seeing he reads by a week nine or ten if 393 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 4: you have an injury. I don't It feels like he's 394 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 4: moving toward a guy that they're not going to have 395 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 4: a lot of angst if he would have to come 396 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 4: into the lineup late this season. 397 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: No, and you've seen instability at left guard right because 398 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 2: Big BArch, who by the way, has just been elevated 399 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 2: from the puplace today. He'll be practicing and maybe playing 400 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: this week or next week against the Dolphins. So you've 401 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 2: got submissibility with Tyler Shatley who's had the aphib issue 402 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: and you're not sure you know when he's going to 403 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 2: be able to come back. So Hodges is one of 404 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 2: those guys that you know, if he's versatile, it can 405 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 2: play the left side, could be active on game day 406 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: as opposed to one of those scratches all season long. 407 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 2: And I would suspect by the time we get to 408 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 2: December he might be. 409 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 4: And my guess is the decision makers feel much much 410 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 4: better about that instability at guard knowing this kid's coming. 411 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 2: He's making this roster. There's no doubt, no doubt. 412 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 5: There for sure. 413 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: Elsewhere are we on to look, Let's do some pun 414 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: returns because we saw Parker Washington out there decent amount 415 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: obviously of agnew so he's on anywhere but Parker Washington 416 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: is a good, viable option, and we've seen him return 417 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: some kicks, return some punts, and work his way into 418 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: the offense a little bit as well. But you have 419 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,719 Speaker 1: to imagine he's someone that they enjoy the versatility that 420 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: he brings to the game. 421 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 2: Two things. One, it takes courage to be a punt returner, 422 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 2: and you just don't know how a guy is going 423 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 2: to react in the NFL with all these guys bearing 424 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: down on him. He had no problem with it. And second, 425 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 2: watch him use his feet here to set up the defender. 426 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 2: We've talked about how good his feet have looked through 427 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 2: a training camp and he shows it right there. 428 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's again a good piece to have if they 429 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 4: need a backup punt returner. And he feels like a 430 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 4: guy who is going to play his way by next 431 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 4: year into mattering in the receiving. 432 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 5: Group the mix for sure. 433 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 4: He just seems too fundamentally sound, too quick in the 434 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 4: right areas. I don't know if his high end is 435 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 4: Christian Kirk someday he's built similarly, but but he certainly 436 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 4: seems from an early early look like a guy who 437 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 4: can produce in the NFL minimum at. 438 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 2: A four or five. Kirk was the second round pick, right, 439 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,360 Speaker 2: and and you see how smooth he is, but he's 440 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 2: he's this guy was drafted to be that guy, right, 441 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 2: to be that slot receiver who uses his feet to 442 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 2: gain separation in the middle of the field, and he'll 443 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 2: have a role. And I mean again, I think he's 444 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: on this roster. I think he's got one of the 445 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 2: six receiver spots. 446 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 1: Well. 447 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 4: From the first practice of ot AS when he was there, 448 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 4: he's never looked lost, never, and that's encouraging and I 449 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 4: needed it. Strange, you know, both from Penn State, but 450 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 4: they both looked like they belonged. 451 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 3: Very very quickly. 452 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 4: U usually guys that look like that bare minimum contribute 453 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 4: for you for a few years. 454 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 3: That's what you went out of the draft. 455 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 1: Yep, he's in my mind locked up the fifth spot 456 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: on the wide receivers. And then I feel like the 457 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: six spot is the one that's kind of up for 458 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: grabs for people. And then finally we want to do 459 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: Chris Braswell's interception, because we did talk about the defense 460 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: and who needs to step up and kind of make 461 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,479 Speaker 1: themselves known because there isn't a ton of depth in 462 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: the in the dB positions and and. 463 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 5: This was good to see it. 464 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 3: But they really really like this kid. Yeah, he's he's uh. 465 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 4: I think Doug talked about him on on on the 466 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 4: Zoom call this morning. His athleticism, he's and if Doug 467 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 4: said this or not, but it struck you when Doug 468 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 4: was talking, He's talking. 469 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 3: About a kid who knows how to play football. 470 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 4: Some guys are athletes and they and they're not natural players. 471 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 4: This kid, everything you hear, he has great instincts. He 472 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 4: can play. My sense is they think this guy, if 473 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 4: not this year, next year, is going to factor into 474 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 4: the five or six dvs are on the field. 475 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 2: And it's important to note that that interception came in 476 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter after he had two penalties, right, the 477 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 2: one that took away the interception and another illegal contact. 478 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 2: So he was having a rough day, but he hung 479 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:02,719 Speaker 2: in there, and that's what they want to see from 480 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 2: these kids. Can you hang in there? Can you overcome that? 481 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 2: And can you stay focused on the next play? As 482 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 2: a cornerback, you know they talk about the island all 483 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 2: the time. You're on that island, can you stay on it? 484 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 2: And he did and made a great play and. 485 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 4: He's still fighting through one of the first couple of 486 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 4: days of camp, he pulled up on a deep route. 487 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 4: He called that, Yeah, he was following somebody and it 488 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 4: looked like a hammy. I'm assuming he was a hammy. 489 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 4: So he's still sort of getting back to it. But again, 490 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 4: I know, Brian, he's gonna talk about it later. A 491 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 4: litany of rookies who were encouraging on Saturday, a lot. 492 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 5: Of good stuff. 493 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: We got our hot takes coming up after the break, 494 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: the hottest of hot takes after we've seen preseason game one. 495 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 5: So stay with us to find out what they are. 496 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 5: Moved the freight moved the freight. 497 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: Magellan Transport is voted the coolest office base in Jacksonville. 498 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: You can ply online at www dot Magellanlogistics dot com. 499 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,919 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Jags Am. We're here in the Hyundai 500 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: studios and we're gonna do hot takes. We got a 501 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: little game action, we got to see a little bit 502 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: of what the team might be bringing to the table. 503 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: So we're gonna start off with hot takes. Brian, I 504 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 1: will start with you today. 505 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: I think this has a chance to be the best 506 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,159 Speaker 2: draft in Jaguars history. And here's why. Because I count 507 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 2: John eight guys who legitimately by the end of next 508 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: season could be starters, if not starters in the sense 509 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: really key players, right, Anton Harrison will be a starter. 510 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: I think Breton Strange is going to be a starter. 511 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 2: Tank Bigsby I think could be a starter, if not 512 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: a starter. He's one of those guys. He's gonna have 513 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 2: a lot of right, Yeah, right, Jackson, Ventrel Miller, Parker Washington, 514 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 2: Yasira Abdullah, Antonio Johnson, and I just added Christian Brasswell 515 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: on your recommendation. So that's eight of thirteen guys that 516 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 2: based on what we saw first two weeks of camp 517 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 2: and how they pay it off in Dallas. You can 518 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 2: look and go, yep, yep, yep, you could have eight 519 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 2: starters out of one draft. You get that. That's a 520 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 2: tremendous draft. That would be the most productive draft in 521 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 2: Jaguars history. 522 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: You have the best draft in Jaguars history. 523 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty twenty one. 524 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 3: If he can trevor that one. 525 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean you know what I mean. 526 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: That's why I changed from best to preduc Yeah. 527 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: It's I agree. 528 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 4: And even if all those guys didn't work out, because 529 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 4: I think a couple of them Ventrel Miller. You wonder 530 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 4: if with Lloyd and Muma inside there uh. 531 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: Looked on as a twenty three million dollar cap figure. 532 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 4: Coming up, right, But Lloyd and Muma could still well 533 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 4: But you mean starter, right, And I don't have any 534 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 4: doubt that everybody you mentioned will matter over the next 535 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 4: two or three years, whether it's starter with Parker Washington, 536 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 4: whether he's a starter, or or whether he's catching forty 537 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 4: for six sixty or you feel very good if somebody's 538 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 4: injured and he comes in, and that's what you need 539 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 4: at a draft, becial when you have thirteen. Clearly that's 540 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 4: what they wanted. They felt like they were not deep 541 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 4: enough and if they needed to get talent in here 542 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 4: for the next four years, there's a lot of confidence 543 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 4: they did. Tyler Lacy, who you didn't mention. I don't 544 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 4: know if he's ever a starter, right, be a role player, 545 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 4: but you need eight or nine. 546 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 2: Here's nine by Cooper Hodges. I forgot him on the list. 547 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, there's I mean, this looks like the 548 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: most productive draft. It's got to play out, obviously, but 549 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 2: I would think by the end of twenty twenty four, 550 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 2: you could look at this draft and say There's never 551 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: been a draft that good. So hats off to Trent Bulky. 552 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 3: And he didn't mention my guy. You see her. 553 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 2: Abdula, Sure I did. Oh you did well? 554 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 4: That was my takeaway, and it's a hot take because 555 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 4: of this. I have no confidence in most rookies to 556 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 4: give you anything that will help you be a better 557 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 4: team in your rookie year. And I'm exaggerating that. I've 558 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 4: just seen so much where their learning and then the 559 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 4: next year they're just really good. This kid might be 560 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 4: able to give them some pass rush and some impact. 561 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 3: I think he's going to. 562 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 4: Start, but you need three or four guys who in 563 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 4: your packages can affect the quarterback. He was playing against 564 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 4: second team the other night. But as logs Is said, 565 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 4: often there's a natural element to that sometimes, and this 566 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 4: kid seems to have it. They knew in Indianapolis when 567 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 4: I was covering them that Robert Mathis, a fifth round 568 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 4: draft pick, had three and a half sacks as a 569 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 4: rookie in his second year. They all said, this kid 570 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 4: is going to be a pro bowler someday. And I 571 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 4: don't want to compare the du a bit of Mathis 572 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 4: because Mathis might go in the Hall someday, but there's 573 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 4: an element there of a young kid who bare minimum 574 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 4: can affect the pocket this. 575 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 2: Year, from the moment he stepped on the practice field, 576 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 2: you knew he belonged absolutely, And then that's high pricks, 577 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 2: especially from veteran football players. But talking to these guys, 578 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 2: they have all said that he belongs. 579 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: It's cool because now that we've entered that point of 580 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: where you have your base of your team already set, 581 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 1: they're drafting to develop as the term goes. But that 582 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: means you come in and you have a specific role 583 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: to fill. You're not coming in trying to be, you know, 584 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: dealing with what Trevor had to deal with him coming 585 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: in and being the man immediately. Not everybody can do 586 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: that or thrives in that environment. And there's a lot 587 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: of these people where Tanks coming in, he's going to 588 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: work with Travis. He's not just the guy we see 589 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: Brenton come in. He gets to learn from a great 590 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: tight end room. Anton Harrison has a loaded offensive line 591 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: that he's working with to help him every single day, 592 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: and he'll have a little more time to maybe get 593 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: up to size. I mean, he's a huge person to 594 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,880 Speaker 1: be in with, so I say, get up to size, 595 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: but put on a little more bulk and then by 596 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: the time you know, second third year, he's going to 597 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: be even better. 598 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 4: So there have been way too many years where everybody 599 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 4: you mentioned Brian would have been starting. 600 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 5: And that's not the best development for a lot of people. 601 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 5: It really isn't. 602 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: So to be able to have that luxury at this 603 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: point point that really sets the team up to be 604 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: successful for many, many years to come, which is what 605 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: we want to talk about, where it's like, oh, this 606 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: team is not just going to be a one and 607 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: done situation. It's like we are building this to be 608 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: good for a very long time. 609 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 2: And just one more noteal quick. You mentioned Tyler Lacy 610 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: has a chance to play well. I talked to him 611 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 2: last week coming off the practice field. He looks gassed. 612 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 2: I don't whether he noticed it every day off the 613 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 2: practice field gassed. He's from Texas, Oklahoma State. I said, 614 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: it can't be the heat. He said no, he said, 615 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 2: I want to prove every play that I belong. I 616 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 2: feel like every play I have to find a way 617 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 2: to stay well. It's that kind of attitude, that kind 618 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: of approach gets your places. 619 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 4: He's a rare guy. And sow Is Hodges in the 620 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 4: sense that usually with rookie lineman and Anton Harrison fits 621 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 4: this a little bit. You can see where Anton in 622 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 4: a year in the weight room is going to look 623 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 4: more like Juwan Taylor did when he left and really 624 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 4: be one of the top offensive tab He's gonna be good. 625 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 4: But once he gets size and strength, his man's strength, 626 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 4: so to speak, he'll take you to a next level. 627 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 4: Look at Hodges and Lacey physically, they already look there 628 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 4: and most rookies don't look that way. So that's gonna 629 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 4: be interesting to watch these young linemen they brought in. 630 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: You guys went with the young guys. I'm gonna go 631 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: with someone a veteran presence on this team, going with 632 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk. 633 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 5: That's my hot take. It's he is the lynch pin 634 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 5: for this offense. And I know we talk. 635 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: A ton about what Calvin is going to bring to 636 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: this team and Trevor's. 637 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 5: Development, all the other core that he has around him. 638 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: This ship is this is going to be successful if 639 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: as far as Christian Kirk can take it, because he 640 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: has become the person that Trevor trusts and he goes 641 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: to and feels he can throw it to no matter what. 642 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 1: And it's similar when we talked a little bit about 643 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: the Patriots earlier, how I felt Brady really worked with 644 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: Welker and then Edelman later on in his career. Yes, 645 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: he throws to Randy Moss who's got twenty plus touchdowns, 646 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: but Welker had the most targets and the most yards 647 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: in a lot of those seasons where they played together 648 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: because that was his safety guy. He knew, he trusted everything, 649 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: He knew everything about the mannerisms for Tom Brady. And 650 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: I feel like Christian Kirk has worked so much with 651 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: Trevor that he's really getting to that point where he 652 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: knows he can be where he needs to be. He 653 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 1: knows what Trevor's mannerisms are, where he prefers what he prefers, 654 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: And when you have that type of relationship with your quarterback, 655 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: that is invaluable, especially when you know people are doubling 656 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: up Calvin or that opens up the field for everybody else. 657 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 658 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 4: I couldn't agree more. I think Christian's number one on 659 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 4: that list. It will probably take him a little while 660 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 4: to get it with Ridley because there just has to 661 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 4: be some game stuff where you just trust what's going 662 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 4: to be there. But I have no doubt watching Calvin 663 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 4: it's going to be there. The intriguing thing is, you 664 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 4: do feel like Trevor right now has at least four 665 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 4: guys who are primary weapons who can beat single coverage, 666 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 4: who he's completely comfortable throwing to. Jimmy and Keenan still 667 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 4: remain the best two wide receivers tandem in franchise history. 668 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 4: They didn't have three and four like this. This is 669 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 4: this is this is intriguing. 670 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: I wasn't all that Christian Kirk was the guy who 671 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: got free as Trevor was so patient in the pocket 672 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 2: and made that beautiful throw. I would agree that he 673 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: is one A. In terms of connection, I would say 674 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 2: Evan Ingram is one bee. I mean just a hair 675 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 2: behind him. Watching them on the practice field and the 676 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 2: way that they work. So he's got guys that he 677 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 2: has connections within Zay, but he got Zay in the 678 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: back of the end zone too. He won't take long 679 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 2: on Ridley. That's what makes me so optimistic. And I 680 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,959 Speaker 2: even think about an interception. The relationship he has with 681 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: these guys, the connection he has with these guys, find 682 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 2: another quarterback in the league, maybe outside of my homes, 683 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 2: maybe Burrow in Cincinnati that has this many targets that 684 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 2: he's connected to so strongly. 685 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, you mentioned Za, and I know we'll get out 686 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 4: of this segment. To me, Zay's had the quietest, really 687 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 4: really solid camp going every day. When I look at 688 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 4: my notes, he's had two or three catches fifteen to 689 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 4: twenty yards. The trust there a donut, you know, I 690 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 4: don't know if you have a yards and he'll have 691 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 4: ten touchdowns. What you know about Zay, He'll have at 692 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 4: least five catches that you remember at the end of 693 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 4: the season for touchdowns where you say, Okay, that got 694 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 4: him the game, and he had about that. 695 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 2: So there's a lot of. 696 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 3: Weapons that matter that make you better on offense. 697 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 5: Can't wait to see. 698 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: It all come together, all right, say with us, we're 699 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: gonna preview what we got going on the rest of 700 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: the week. We had to Detroit and let you know 701 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: all about that after the break. Jags fans, if you 702 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: want customized Jaguarts furniture for your home, you can check 703 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: out zipchair dot com to browse all customizable options. 704 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 5: Zipchair is furniture. 705 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: For fans, and we talked a little bit about that 706 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 1: Nathan Rourke play. You know, he's falling down, he gets 707 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: the touchdown. They played it in the stadium for his 708 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: old team during their game. Of course, his teammates where 709 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: he played in the CFL last season, and then obviously 710 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: they were very excited to see their teammate doing so 711 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: well here in pre season and hopefully making a name 712 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: for himself. 713 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 5: But pretty cool to see there. 714 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: And hopefully we'll see a little bit more of work 715 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: when we head to Detroit this week because we're doing 716 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: joint practice for the couple days this week and then 717 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: they're playing the Lions on Saturday. So what do you 718 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: guys enjoy most about kind of joint practice? Is it 719 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 1: just seeing new people, seeing your team go up against 720 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: some different players. 721 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 2: I like validating opinions, right, I mean, because you can 722 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 2: see Calvin Ridley line up against I don't choose a 723 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: young cornerback and think, well, Calvin really is having the 724 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 2: best camp possible. Right now, You're gonna go line up 725 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 2: against the ones in Detroit. Okay, let's see you do it. 726 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 5: What's going to look like? 727 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 2: I fully anticipate that he will, but it validates opinions. 728 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 2: If Gregory Junior goes up and has a big day 729 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 2: on the practice field. Yep, okay, he's making the progress. 730 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 4: And it's a week where the reps between ones during 731 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 4: practice a matter is my which is what the fans 732 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 4: will see during the game. Like there's a chance some 733 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 4: starters may play less on Saturday because of the because 734 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:07,719 Speaker 4: they feel like they've got the reps. 735 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 3: And Doug alluded to it a little bit. 736 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 4: I don't put words in his mouth, but that there 737 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 4: could be some younger guys, the greg junior level player 738 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 4: who's not necessarily a starter, who they could want to 739 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 4: get reps against ones to give them that experience. This 740 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 4: is the meat time of this process. 741 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 2: So Bucky and I get to sit with the coach 742 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 2: and some players the night before the game as we're 743 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 2: doing our preseason production meetings, and we had a long 744 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 2: conversation with Doug about the value of these matchups, and 745 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 2: he said that every rep on the practice field is 746 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 2: as valuable as any rep in a game in the preseason. 747 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: That's saying something I think it is and I think 748 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: we'll see a lot of that, and it's just exciting 749 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: to see the competitive nature of it. You know, you're 750 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 1: not going against your own team, so it'll a lit'll 751 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: be a little bit different out there. We're going to 752 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: be live for jags AM on Wednesday and Thursday at 753 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: Detroit's training camp and hopefully a little bit cooler there, 754 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: so we'll be outside and. 755 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 2: A lot cooler there. 756 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to. Please join us on Wednesday and Thursday. 757 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 5: We will see you then. 758 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: As for until then, have a good one.