1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: For more than fifty years, Corporate America and its PR 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: firms have worked really hard to brand environmentalists alternately as 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: dangerous radicals or silly idealists, rubes who romanticize farming and 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: yearn for that most ridiculous goal, pristine nature. 5 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 2: The idea of the Provice of Christinas is this idea 6 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: that everyone who is arguing to protect human health, who 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: is arguing to protect people's water supplies, the quality of 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 2: their air, is really only focused on protecting protecting Christine 9 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: places for their view, for the enjoyment of select number 10 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 2: of people. 11 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: That's Carol Muffett, President and CEO of the Center for 12 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: International Environmental Law. In our series with Earther last year, 13 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: the ABC's of Big Oil, about the fossil fuel industry's 14 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: influence in schools, Carol walked us through a presentation he 15 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: unearthed that laid out the importance of shaping the public's 16 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: opinions about the oil industry and about environmental issues. 17 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: This is at the heart of the industry's efforts to 18 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: paint environmentalists as a special interest. And you know, those 19 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: efforts were for a long time, very very effective. But 20 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: the industry was really effective at presenting all of them 21 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: as just environmentalists who were bunny hunters, who were concerned 22 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: about trees and monnies and didn't care about people at all. 23 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: Reporter Katie Worth, author of the new book Miseducation, brought 24 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: us some incredible tape of a fossil fuel lobbyist speaking 25 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: to a middle school class in Arkansas trotting out this 26 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: exact same idea is utilized. 27 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 3: The most important thing here is being healthier, wealthier, happier, 28 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: living longer, or is pristine nature more important? Building new houses, 29 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 3: stop getting step out of the ground, want to leading 30 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: exactly as it is, because that would be difficult. 31 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: The idea that environmentalists just care about polar bears and 32 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: trees wasn't all the industry's fault. Of course, there has 33 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: always been certain factions of the environmental and climate movements 34 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: who do a better job of advocating for polar bears 35 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: than people. But what the industry's education and marketing campaigns 36 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: pulled off was framing these two things, humans and nature, 37 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: as somehow always separate and mutually exclusive. You can't possibly 38 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: care about people if you care about polar bears. You 39 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: can't possibly care about the poor if you think trees 40 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: are cool. Obviously none of that is true. You can 41 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: care about both human communities and polar bear just fine. 42 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: This idea that people in nature are separate, or that 43 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: it's shameful in some way to care about nature is 44 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: one that climate organizers would do well to reject. Here's 45 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: a jibwe attorney and climate activist Tara Hauska. 46 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 4: I think the climate movement does itself a huge disservice 47 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 4: by even trying to condition themselves or allow their conditioning 48 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 4: to continue, that we are somehow separate from nature, that 49 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 4: nature can be summed up in statistical data and analysis, 50 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 4: and that we are hard knows, you know. Here's the solutions. 51 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: There are tons of examples of ads and campaigns that 52 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: underscore the framing of the silly, unrealistic, elitist environmentalist. Today, 53 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: we're going to look at one that I uncovered recently 54 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: and just can't stop thinking about. It's one of the 55 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 1: records produced as part of the Standard School Broadcast, which 56 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: started in nineteen twenty eight and continued for decades, eventually 57 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: becoming the Chevron School Broadcast. This installment, in particular is 58 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: about the Industrial Revolution and introduces an obnoxious counter to 59 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: the Progress and Innovation of Industrialists, Ms Scratch, the Environmentalist 60 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: and consumer Advocate. This album came out in nineteen seventy two, 61 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: so a few years after Rachel Carson and Ralph Nader 62 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: started to make the issues of public health and environmental 63 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: conservation a big deal. It would have played in hundreds 64 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: of schools throughout the Western United States throughout the seventies. 65 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: In a series of vignettes, a baritone captain of industry 66 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: regales listeners with tales of all the amazing innovations that 67 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: American industry has gifted the world. And then here comes 68 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: Miss Scratch, shrill and lecturing to rain on the parade. 69 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: It's so similar to how environmentalists are still depicted today 70 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: that I think it's worth a closer book that's coming 71 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: up right after this quick break. So most of this 72 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: record is one long skit, and the basic premise is 73 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: that a businessman has been asked by his boss to 74 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: give a thorough accounting of America's contributions to global industry. 75 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: He starts with the a's agriculture. 76 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 5: Right without mechanized agriculture, There's some doubt that the Middle 77 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 5: West could ever have been opened up without slavery. That is, indeed, 78 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 5: the reaper may have served the cause of abolition. And 79 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 5: throughout the years, our vast agricultural expansion hasn't benefited the 80 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 5: United States alone. 81 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 6: For example, right after. 82 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 5: World Wars one and two, US agriculture virtually kept Europe alive. 83 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 7: And you, miss Scratch, you've heard all of these benefits 84 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 7: of mechanized agriculture. Have you anything to say against this 85 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 7: remarkable achievement? 86 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:15,359 Speaker 8: Yes I have. 87 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 9: Look there, please the entry for nineteen thirty four, look 88 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 9: across the plains and see Oklahoma blowing away, the dust 89 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 9: bowl worked to death and left to blow away, or 90 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 9: this entry more recent. 91 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 8: Follow me down this country road. 92 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 9: The farm on the left belongs to a man whose 93 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:43,119 Speaker 9: grandfather homesteaded the land back in the eighteen fifties. There's 94 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 9: the house right next to the pepper tree, a nice 95 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 9: big verandah and a screen door to bang when kids 96 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 9: run through. But there on the veranda porch a hand 97 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 9: lettered sign farm for sale. Why are they selling? They 98 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 9: can't compete against the big farm combines with their costly 99 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 9: equipment and corporate management and all the rest. And where 100 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 9: are they going to the cities where they will melt? 101 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 9: In with the other dispossessed and never feel at home again. 102 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 9: As long as they live where, they'll forget the seasons 103 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 9: and the soil, and forget that things are born new 104 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 9: in their season and die in their season, and that 105 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 9: this is the way life should be. They'll forget, but worse, 106 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 9: their children will never know. 107 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 5: Really, Miss Scratch, I think your romanticizing life on a farm. 108 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 6: Life on a farm is a hard life. 109 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 8: And life in a city is an easy life. 110 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 7: Yes, well, let's move on. 111 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 6: Ugh. 112 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: Miss Scratch is the worst. Her voice is annoying. She's 113 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: both naive and condescending, and the big booming voices of 114 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: the men who know things get to sort of end 115 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: her rant with an eye roll and a move on. 116 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: Next up, airplanes and air travel. The businessman mister Merritt 117 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: bit on the nose there anyway. Mister Merritt talks about 118 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: the amazing innovation of flight and how air travel opens 119 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: up the world and improves relations between different peoples. Then 120 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: Miss Scratch comes in like a wet blanket to point 121 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: out that planes are used for war and that back 122 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: home in America they're noisy and polluting. 123 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 9: The air jets are fouling, the air and assaulting our 124 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 9: ears with noise, and it's contributing to the acceleration of 125 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 9: our lives so that we think we've got to get everywhere. 126 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 8: In a hurry. 127 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: She is Queen Buzzkill. What this little skit also does 128 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: throughout is underscore the idea that there are two sides 129 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: to every story, and that there are always trade offs 130 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: between progress and nature. Even the characters' names kind of 131 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: underscore this, this idea that there always has to be 132 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: this quote unquote balance between the two sides. Mss Scratch 133 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: and mister Merritt with him tallying up all the good 134 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: things that industry has brought and her pointing out the downsides. 135 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: When we get to automotive, it really jumps out. 136 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 5: The automobile is an incredible convenience to the average American 137 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 5: in his everyday life. For parents getting to work, running 138 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 5: down to the store, picking up the kids, and for 139 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 5: the kids themselves, going on vacation trips, going on dates. 140 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 5: Almost everything we Americans do involves the automobile in some way. 141 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 5: Don't forget that most of us took a quick ride 142 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 5: in a car on our way to being born. 143 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 7: Miss Scratch. Anything on the debit side, for the automotive industry. 144 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 9: Mister Merritt reminds us that most of us took a 145 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 9: quick ride in a car on our way to being born. 146 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 9: May I remind you that many of us will take 147 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 9: a quick ride in a. 148 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 8: Car to our death. 149 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 9: More than fifty five thousand deaths each year in automobile crashes. 150 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 9: It's true that horses used to kick their owners in 151 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 9: the shins now, and then what fifty five thousand deaths? 152 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 7: Anything further? 153 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 8: Miss, scratch you bet. 154 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 9: Automobiles contribute their pollutants to our air. Air that's getting 155 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 9: so foul it threatens to choke the life of our cities. 156 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 9: Ugly concrete scars striped across our land, mountains sliced, and 157 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 9: meadows defiled for highways and freeways so that people can 158 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 9: go tearing mindlessly from one place to another. And then 159 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 9: on our vacation we get in our car and drive 160 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 9: a long way to reach those beautiful places we'd probably 161 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 9: still have all around us if we'd never even had 162 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 9: the automobile. 163 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 7: Anything further, Well. 164 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 9: None of this mentions the fact that mister Merritt's average 165 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 9: family is burdened down by car payments, upkeep insurance. 166 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 6: Well as far as that goes. 167 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 5: The automotive industry itself contributes to millions of paychecks. It's 168 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 5: provided employment that has helped to build our economy and 169 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 5: consumer economy with the highest standard of living in the world. 170 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 8: Every house with its share of worthless. 171 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 6: Junks, every family freed from grudgery, junk. 172 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 9: That wears out as soon as possible, so they have 173 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 9: to go out and buy another one or two. 174 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 6: Time for recreation, time. 175 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 9: Spent sitting at a baseball game or a football game, 176 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 9: or in front of the television set, a nation full of. 177 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 6: Spectation time for the family. 178 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 8: Six hundred thousand divorces. 179 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 6: Every time, friend and enjoying life. 180 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 8: More than twenty thousand suicides. 181 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 5: A year, Miss Scratch. Would you give up your automobile? 182 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 5: Would you give up your standard of living? Would you 183 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 5: prefer to live like an Australian aborigine without even a 184 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 5: vessel to carry water in and a lifespan of thirty years? 185 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: That last bit is the exact talking point that still 186 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: gets lobbed at climate activists today. Do you want to 187 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: give up your car, or your iPhone or your computer? 188 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: If not, better not say a word about climate change, 189 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: or you're just a hypocrite. Seems to me it's time 190 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: to rethink what it means to be an environmentalist or 191 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: a climate activist, to reject the framing of the fossil 192 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: fuel industry, to stop reacting to that frame and instead 193 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: define it for ourselves. In fact, reframing that identity might 194 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:04,119 Speaker 1: even be part of a larger climate solution. Here's Tarahawska again. 195 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 4: That connectivity that needs to happen. It needs to happen 196 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 4: between every human being and nature. I think we'd be 197 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 4: a lot further along in that conversation if we were 198 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 4: accepting of that as a solution and also creating space 199 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 4: for it to really be heard. 200 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: That's it for this time. Thanks as always for listening. 201 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm in the process of digitizing a whole bunch of 202 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: the standard school broadcast records and I will make those 203 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: available online in the coming weeks at drillednews dot com, 204 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: so keep an eye out for that. 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