WEBVTT - Ep. 486: Steve Finally Gets a Giant Moose

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Meat Eater Podcast coming at you shirtless, severely,

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<v Speaker 1>complaint hotline where people could complain about dirt myth.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh whoa, let me tell you why.

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<v Speaker 2>It's be a short list.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, we.

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<v Speaker 2>What what?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you doing? What do you got going on

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<v Speaker 3>with the chest?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so our plan? A year ago, a year ago

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<v Speaker 1>to almost to the to the t we recorded an

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<v Speaker 1>episode traveling down the highway in Alaska in a van.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm, great.

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<v Speaker 2>Episode, great episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a lot of energy, Yeah, a lot of energy.

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<v Speaker 1>Great episode, little road trip. Very successful. I know this

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<v Speaker 1>is a very successful episode. Some people say the most

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<v Speaker 1>successful episode. Really podcast, I'm trying to make it seem

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, I'm really kind of like trying to

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<v Speaker 1>build up so people get extra mad at Dirt. The

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<v Speaker 1>plan was, we're gonna do that the same thing, the

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<v Speaker 1>second annual, same stretch of highway, same time of year show.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh well we.

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<v Speaker 1>Get just getting ready to do it, and now a

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<v Speaker 1>little complication. The meantime is now we launched these episodes.

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<v Speaker 1>These episodes are available on YouTube video.

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<v Speaker 3>An old Dirt can't do myth, it's never been men

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<v Speaker 3>says that it can't be done.

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<v Speaker 2>It can be done with what we got going on?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you button into?

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<v Speaker 2>This forces the senator record straight.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been watching driving scenes since Strange Brew.

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<v Speaker 2>With a lot of gear behind that scene.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a driving scene in Strange Brew. I've been watching

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<v Speaker 1>driving scenes since I was a little kid.

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<v Speaker 3>Scooby Doo cartoon man.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, never mind that example, Hazard Dukes of Hazzard.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been watching driving scenes my whole life. Somehow, Dirt

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<v Speaker 1>says they can't be made.

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<v Speaker 2>Not in our set, not with the equipment that we have.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're stuck filming. Not that I have any problem

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<v Speaker 1>with this. We're in a little bunk house.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty cool mm hmm. Airplanes fly around.

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<v Speaker 3>Static.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna make We're gonna make do a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>listeners know that the reason you're not getting served up

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<v Speaker 1>another phenomenal mediator podcast, Van Life, episode Part two is

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<v Speaker 1>because of dirt.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd get carsick if you watch that episode, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Would be a little bouncy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's fair because I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean if we told people where we're at, like the

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<v Speaker 3>general vicinity of the planet Earth, we're in eastern Alaska. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I just think that it's not fair to blame

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<v Speaker 4>that on dirt, that this podcast isn't happening in a

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<v Speaker 4>vein because of him.

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<v Speaker 3>But what do you think the problem.

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<v Speaker 4>Is, Well, there's a lot more that would have to

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<v Speaker 4>go into it to be able to film that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>there would have to be special camera rigs set up and.

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<v Speaker 2>Send your complaints to h.

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<v Speaker 1>H okay, a lot of feedback. You were you there?

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<v Speaker 1>You know you weren't there. We interviewed the esteemed historian

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<v Speaker 1>Elliott West.

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<v Speaker 3>No there. It was a great episode.

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<v Speaker 1>On that episode, I debuted an old saying I came

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<v Speaker 1>up with I'm trying to like get an old saying going,

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<v Speaker 1>like I made one up. Well, I made up saying.

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<v Speaker 1>It's new, but it's like an old saying. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was what prompted it was like, if you tell your

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<v Speaker 1>kids to go out and pick the pole beans.

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<v Speaker 3>And they you'd be like, well, how many do I pick?

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<v Speaker 3>I might pick all of them, put them all.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll come in and be like I picked them all,

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<v Speaker 1>and you go out there and look and they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get them all. No way, Or you'd say someone's like

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go pick strawberries. I'm like, pick them all and

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<v Speaker 1>they go dig around on the strawberry bad and then

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<v Speaker 1>you go, look, they didn't get them all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>So my old saying I came up with is a

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<v Speaker 1>fresh set of eyes will.

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<v Speaker 3>Always find more beans. And I'm like trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>it going. I'll use that people don't like it, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>prostalyze that what people just the family.

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<v Speaker 1>People wrote in. My wife doesn't like it. She thinks stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>That's important.

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<v Speaker 1>Phil says, it's got no like, it doesn't roll off

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<v Speaker 1>the tongue.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it could be helpful though, because a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of human life is spent looking for lost stuff. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean a fair I'd say twenty percent of life. People

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<v Speaker 3>wrote in with some edits.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah Saint Anthony, remember we talked about this, say that St.

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<v Speaker 3>Anthony deal stuff at camp.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's dirt knows this. Yeah, Saint Anthony, say Anthony,

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<v Speaker 4>police come around, something's been lost and cannot be found.

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<v Speaker 4>And then at a bam and say that while you're

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<v Speaker 4>looking for something, you find it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and that's a that's a that's a Catholic saying.

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<v Speaker 4>And Clay mentioned that he goes right to the big

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<v Speaker 4>he goes straight to the bottle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he cuts, he circumvents, he goes around, cuts around

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<v Speaker 1>the middleman.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right. Some edits came in. It's getting better.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I'll say is it has applicability and find

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<v Speaker 1>And somebody even pointed out for sure, like even be

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<v Speaker 1>encounters has ability in finance, like like you're looking for

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<v Speaker 1>your deductions, you know, look at tax time you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Looking for it's always But what about that new wall

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<v Speaker 3>that you bought, You carry you work stuff in that wall.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a business expense.

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<v Speaker 1>Count that beans, so fresh set of eyes will always

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<v Speaker 1>find more beans. I thought it had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>broad He thought it had applicability in glassing. Someone's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>a glass that whole hillside, nothing up there and away right,

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<v Speaker 1>So Edits came in a new view gathers more beans. No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>a second look invested brings more beans digested.

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<v Speaker 2>I like clever, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>A fresh set of eyes will always find the prize.

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<v Speaker 2>No bean mentioned.

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<v Speaker 3>New eyes find new beans.

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<v Speaker 2>Too, boring.

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<v Speaker 3>A fresh set of eyes, we'll see where the beans lie.

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<v Speaker 1>Or my buddy Matt DROs wrote in he said, also,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a text message I got. I appreciated the

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<v Speaker 1>relatability of your made up old saying about relooking for beans.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether it's beans, pickles, by which I think he means cucumbers,

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<v Speaker 1>morel's or whatever. One highly tuned in individual can always

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<v Speaker 1>find more, even after someone just quote picked them all.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe the saying should be a fresh set of eyes

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<v Speaker 1>yields more of the prize.

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<v Speaker 2>That's preaking. I think there should be Jack and the

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<v Speaker 2>beanstalk somewhere in there. That's not gonna work there, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a magic bean man.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple announcements and clear you're gonna be here for

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<v Speaker 1>some of this. We have a live tour coming up. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is gonna be great fun. Clay's gonna hit something,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's gonna be out wolf trapping for some of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>Me and Dirt, Oh, you and dirt gonna be wolf

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<v Speaker 3>trapping me and dirt. We're like mud and clay. Dirt

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<v Speaker 3>and mud, dirt and clay. You get kind of dry clay,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of loamy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, better for some plants to grow in. Yep.

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<v Speaker 3>Clay's working on a Bear Grease road show about uh,

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<v Speaker 3>he's he's profiling a wolf trapper. He's he's working on

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<v Speaker 3>a Bear Grease road show about a wolf trapper. So

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna miss some of the live tour dates. Our

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<v Speaker 3>live tour is gonna begin on December sixth.

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<v Speaker 1>I really would appreciate people really coming out, so uh

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<v Speaker 1>the Laughing Eagle.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Petels will be there for all the show. We're still

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<v Speaker 1>putting everything together. He'll be there for the shows. Spencer

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<v Speaker 1>Newhars can be there because all the shows are going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a local trivia component to them. Lot's going

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<v Speaker 1>on a bunch of other people joining friends, special friends,

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<v Speaker 1>special guests every night. Wednesday, December sixth, first show of

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<v Speaker 1>the tour. We're gonna be at the Mission Ballroom in Denver, Colorado.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go Denver.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>December seventh, anniversary of Pearl Harbor, Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go KC.

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<v Speaker 1>Foley Theater, Kansas City. We're gonna take a night off

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<v Speaker 1>on December eighth. I've got to find something fun to.

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<v Speaker 3>Do that night.

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<v Speaker 1>December ninth, Saturday, December ninth, Davenport, Iowa. You're about an

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<v Speaker 1>hour from Cedar Rapids in about two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>hours from Chicago Capital Theater. December tenth, Kalamazoo, Michigan. Home

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<v Speaker 1>field advantage for Yanni. I didn't grow up far from there.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife's from there. Yanni's from there. Kalamazoo State Theater.

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<v Speaker 1>We've done that place before, as has Bob Dylan.

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<v Speaker 2>Who got more views us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we sold way more albums. December eleventh, my daughter's birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>Royal Oak, Michigan, SO Greater Detroit Area, Royal Oak Music Theater,

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<v Speaker 1>twelfth taking off. I canna find something fun to do.

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<v Speaker 1>December thirteenth, Cleveland, Ohio at the Agora. December fourteenth, mon Hall, PA,

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<v Speaker 1>SO the Greater Pittsburgh area, Carnegie Homestead, Carnegie of Homestead

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<v Speaker 1>Music Hall. Friday, December fifteenth, Glenside, PA, Greater Philadelphia area area,

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<v Speaker 1>Keswick Theater.

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<v Speaker 3>Meeting your live show. Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be big man laughs. Trivia prize winning funny stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Another thing we're working on this this week. Need this

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<v Speaker 1>is a listener we we this is listener help. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been thinking about doing We've been thinking about starting a

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<v Speaker 1>thing that'd be a part of the show, which would

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<v Speaker 1>be a dissection of trailcam mysteries, because we get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these where people send in trail camp.

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<v Speaker 3>Phones, like what the hell is that? Is that a

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<v Speaker 3>mountain lion?

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<v Speaker 2>Sam squatch? Ones too, pray yep?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that a sasquatch? Is that a mountain lion? Why

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<v Speaker 1>is that Buck? What's wrong with his eye? I recently

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<v Speaker 1>got one where Bucks at one of that that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a weird virus that deer get like it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>like a part of the herpes complex that makes their

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<v Speaker 1>eyes get all this growth over them. So someone sent

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<v Speaker 1>that in, right, or someone might send in is that

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<v Speaker 1>a bobcat? Or it's like they're like, is that an

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<v Speaker 1>old naked hippie whatever, And you can't tell what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Just Clay Nukeles picking the beans out there, fresh.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of us.

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<v Speaker 1>So what we need are we need your We need

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<v Speaker 1>your trail cam mysteries. And here's the thing, here's the

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<v Speaker 1>brand promise. When you send us a trail cam mystery

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<v Speaker 1>if winds up being like biological in nature or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>like this herpes complex, deal that blind's deer or cactus bucks,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever crazy stuff from your trail camp or what is

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<v Speaker 1>that is that a mountain lion? Questions we will get

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<v Speaker 1>We will go through our contacts of many biologists and

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<v Speaker 1>experts and ecologists, disease specialists, whatever hippie experts, naked hippie experts.

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<v Speaker 1>We will get you the answer. Then we will post

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<v Speaker 1>We will post your photo with the feedback and we

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<v Speaker 1>will cover it and discuss the photo on the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>to get you a great answer of of like like

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is from the experts.

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<v Speaker 3>With everyone just you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I what kicked us off is the other day

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<v Speaker 1>I had a great trail camphoto from my otter cam

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<v Speaker 1>where I couldn't tell if it was a beaver's butt

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<v Speaker 1>or an odds butt mm hmm, And it sparked a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a spirit debate about whether that's the

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<v Speaker 1>butt of an otter or the butt of a beaver.

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<v Speaker 1>So that got me thinking that this would be a

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<v Speaker 1>great service and I would have submitted my own photo

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<v Speaker 1>to expert panel, which I did because I just through

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<v Speaker 1>professionally I know a lot of great people.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, so I sent it to a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>That has handled thousands and thousands of beavers and hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of otters and ask them, well, whose butt that was?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>We will be able to provide this service for listeners

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<v Speaker 1>who have crazy trail camphotos. All you need to do

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<v Speaker 1>is go to send it. Send your trail camphoto. Just

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<v Speaker 1>put the title like crazy trail camphoto or whatever and

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<v Speaker 1>send it to the met Eater podcast at the meaeater

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. The meat Eater podcast at the meeater dot

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<v Speaker 1>com also complaints about dirt can go there as well. Hey, so,

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<v Speaker 1>do like complaint dirt in the subject line or if

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<v Speaker 1>it's trail cam just trail camlet me let me.

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<v Speaker 3>I could probably be of help. I'm not an expert

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<v Speaker 3>at a whole of many things, but I am the

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<v Speaker 3>world's expert, the best in the world. I'll debate anybody

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<v Speaker 3>on this fact at identifying American black panther trail camera photos.

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<v Speaker 3>You send me a feeline that you suspect is an

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<v Speaker 3>American black panther, I will and you'll take it to you.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll take it to your father. Yeah, Well, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>I have people, but I get them all the time.

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<v Speaker 4>As we're talking about this, I had a couple of

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<v Speaker 4>trail cam photos come in on the cell camera as

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<v Speaker 4>we're talking. No, it's pretty straightforward. It's a white tailed

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<v Speaker 4>dough and a cow elk in the field together.

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<v Speaker 3>God nice.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a service that we're going to provide. And

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<v Speaker 1>when when your thing gets selected, you know, we'll even

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<v Speaker 1>send you some kind of present. I'm gonna regret saying that, say,

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of president. If your think gets selected, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>post a photo, we will get expert testimony, and we

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<v Speaker 1>will have an actual debate and explanation.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the photo.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you watch on YouTube, we'll just have the

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<v Speaker 1>photo up if you listen, you just go on social

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<v Speaker 1>media to view the photo and weigh in and what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell you're looking at? It's called I think we

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<v Speaker 1>should call it the what in the hell is this thing?

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<v Speaker 1>From my trail cam?

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<v Speaker 2>Simple? Yeah, everyone wins in this something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all didn't get the punchline to my black panther deal.

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<v Speaker 3>There are no black panthers in America. So the answer

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<v Speaker 3>is always why did I buy that believer hat?

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<v Speaker 2>That's not what Gary Nucer says.

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<v Speaker 3>Believe them? Why do we sell a black panther believer

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<v Speaker 3>hack just I mean half of this country believes in them,

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<v Speaker 3>and my dad's like the president.

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<v Speaker 1>I once read we've talked about this, but I once

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<v Speaker 1>read or someone said, a black panther is a wet panther. M.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you think about that? It's a wet mount line.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I hear you they could be. It's definitely

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<v Speaker 3>make them darker. You don't think that that's always no, No,

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<v Speaker 3>I think people are seeing uh, they're seeing black house cats.

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<v Speaker 3>They're seeing labrador mix breed dogs like flashing in front

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<v Speaker 3>of their camera and like a streaky photo that makes

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<v Speaker 3>his tail look a little longer than it is. M.

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<v Speaker 3>They're seeing usually it is off scale feline house cats

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<v Speaker 3>that that just it looks big in the in the picture,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's actually not big.

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<v Speaker 2>Or if you hear one that you think as a panther.

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<v Speaker 3>See people don't you know the vocalizations of the mountain lions. Sure,

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<v Speaker 3>they vocalize, but so do bobcats, and so I think

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people mistake the bark of a gray

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<v Speaker 3>fox for some top of big cat.

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<v Speaker 2>God.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, gray foxes make a kind of a harrowing.

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<v Speaker 2>Mhm.

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<v Speaker 3>You do that a little louder. It's kind of like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Drink. It sounds like throwing up.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a it's too much thunderwater. Filter it out.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of a it's an odd sound you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>expect coming from a little gray fox. I think people

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<v Speaker 3>think that's a panther screen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they want to believe it it's a panther.

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<v Speaker 1>They want to believe this is a this is an announcement, Rich,

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<v Speaker 1>This is a where you're in an announcement, Rich bunk house.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, A new Dirty dozen calendar for twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four has been on sale at the Medior store. Go

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<v Speaker 1>get one hour, Get five now.

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<v Speaker 3>Cow. So we do calendars.

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<v Speaker 1>Years ago we did fucked up old Your stands great calendar,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean fucked up old t acid ermy phenomenal calendar.

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<v Speaker 1>But this year it's just so happened that and this

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna tie somewhere and talk about now it just

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<v Speaker 1>so happened, that just so happens that you got how

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<v Speaker 1>many months are in a year, Clay twelve twelve?

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<v Speaker 3>OKAYU hold that in.

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<v Speaker 1>The back of your head and try to stay with you.

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<v Speaker 3>Twelve months in a year. We are just now releasing

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<v Speaker 3>season twelve of Meat Eater. Twelve years. You've been doing it, Steve, and.

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<v Speaker 1>The way we do it is a season winds up

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<v Speaker 1>be in a year's worth of episodes. It could be

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it could be in the old days, we

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<v Speaker 1>might have done sixteen, we might do six whatever, but

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<v Speaker 1>we do It's like a season is a year's worth

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<v Speaker 1>of episodes. We we vacated our theme. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>do fucked up old fish, cleaning stations in boats and.

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<v Speaker 3>Just people.

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<v Speaker 2>Fucked up on individuals.

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<v Speaker 3>But the whole franchise is on hold because of the

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<v Speaker 3>fortuitous like the serendipitous deal that twelve seasons aligns with

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<v Speaker 3>the twelve months of the year. So we've made a

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<v Speaker 3>very memorable calendar, a wonderful.

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<v Speaker 1>Gift where each month is a year, so it's each month.

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<v Speaker 1>January is all behind the scenes photos, good times and

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<v Speaker 1>laughings is all. January' is all behind the scenes followsome season.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to meet it her? Sweet Guess what February is?

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<v Speaker 2>Dirt Valentine's Day?

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<v Speaker 1>No second season, it's all it's all behind the scenes

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<v Speaker 1>photos from the second season. So you'll see so many

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<v Speaker 1>of your favorite like memorable characters from over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>Dirt's in the calendar, Clay's in the calendar, Cess in

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<v Speaker 1>the calendar, Joe Rogan's in the calendar, Kevin Murphy's in

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<v Speaker 1>the calendar.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw the calendar and there was a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>scowling Steve photos. Yeah, there's a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>There's like a lot of like this, a lot of Steve.

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<v Speaker 3>Camera lot this Parkins back. Yeah, like Parkins back to.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we didn't put it there as any of

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<v Speaker 1>my hospitalization photos that came out of the show in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Hospital that could be its own calendar.

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<v Speaker 1>I should have thought of that to put some of

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<v Speaker 1>that in there. So it goes back to when Yanni.

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<v Speaker 1>So the calendar goes back so far in time that

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<v Speaker 1>you'll see when Yanni was working for us but didn't

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<v Speaker 1>realize he was getting paid. That's big. We hired Yanni

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<v Speaker 1>to carry a backpack on a sheep hunt. He thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was just going to hang out, and then someone

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<v Speaker 1>gave him his tax paperwork at the end of it

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<v Speaker 1>and he's like, what's this say so you can get paid? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw we were dicking around. Then went on to

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<v Speaker 1>produce dozens of episodes, probably more than anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's so cool, man.

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<v Speaker 1>So the calendar covers a great span of time. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a really fun calendar. So check that one out, Dirty dozen.

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<v Speaker 3>Calendar.

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<v Speaker 2>Sweet.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of set photos in there, probably, Yeah, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of set photos.

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<v Speaker 2>From season eight yeah eight ford m hm my photos

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<v Speaker 2>lot was.

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<v Speaker 3>Taking pictures when you're wiping your mom's nose.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right close close, So check that out. Uh. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of dirts photos in there, Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Dirts cut photos in there. So here here's the other

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<v Speaker 1>thing about this whole deal. So if you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this right now, this all ties together. If you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>right now, our latest season of Meat Eater, season twelve

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<v Speaker 1>is out. It launched on October twelfth on the meat

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<v Speaker 1>eating website so themeter dot com and on the media

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<v Speaker 1>to YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute, Season twelve is where on our own website,

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<v Speaker 3>what date? October twelve? Okay, got it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's would be good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, it's gonna be good.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're listening right now, it's out right now,

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<v Speaker 1>October twelve, meter website, on the media to YouTube channel,

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<v Speaker 1>And it is like I said, some days long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Ago, we would make sixteen. How many we got this year,

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<v Speaker 3>we did six six wait October twelve, Yeah, October. If

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<v Speaker 3>you're listening and it's past October.

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<v Speaker 2>Twelve, then you can go watch it right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now. We're rolling out a episode a week. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so for six weeks starting October teven. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I drew this crazy elk tag of Montana called

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<v Speaker 1>the Buffer Zone.

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<v Speaker 2>I missed that one that center.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you went in November, November and you're hunting, like

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<v Speaker 3>right on the edge of the park.

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<v Speaker 1>They give up five tags a year and you get

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<v Speaker 1>this little ship and chunk of ground not very big.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a hunt on and it's right on the

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<v Speaker 1>edge of the park and you're catching elk migrating.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of the park.

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<v Speaker 1>M You know, everybody thinks of migrations is going south

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<v Speaker 1>in the winter, but they're actually my in this place.

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<v Speaker 1>They're migrating like northward, just elevation change, right. So we

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<v Speaker 1>got that coming out. We got another phenomenal where we

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<v Speaker 1>took our buddy Kevin Murphy to Michigan Cottontail Rabbit Bonanza

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<v Speaker 1>with rabid eagles, Squirrel Bonanza with squirrel dogs, a raccoon

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<v Speaker 1>that the dog's tree, a squirrel try to try to

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<v Speaker 1>picture this get by a dog under this tree.

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<v Speaker 2>I did that dog dog squirrel at that exact moment. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he was firing up.

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<v Speaker 1>Man and I had poison ivy and I took a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of Ben and drill.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't really thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>About it, and I thought I was aging, Like, uh, you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Blaming it on a I thought I would like I

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<v Speaker 3>was in a time of capsule poisoning.

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<v Speaker 1>A squirrel got hung up in the tree and I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to climb up the tree. I couldn't got to

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<v Speaker 1>the tree, and I thought I was like, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>I was dying of old age. And then it occurred

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<v Speaker 1>to me that he Ben and drill mid day, and

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<v Speaker 1>it even affected my vision.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so hopped up on ben and drill. You

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<v Speaker 3>should have taken away my firearm.

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<v Speaker 2>You're still plinking them squirrels though.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because well that's was your heart rate down. It

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<v Speaker 1>makes you a good shot. But when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>squirrels retrieving, So we had a squirrel. You'll see this

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<v Speaker 1>happen in this episode. The odds of this are so

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<v Speaker 1>infinitesticly small. Where the dog trees a squirrel, the squirrel

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<v Speaker 1>runs up a tree and stops comes to rest. Was

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<v Speaker 1>it eighteen twenty inches.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the coon happened to be in the tree

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<v Speaker 3>this daytime. Yeah, the squirrel passed the coon up and

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<v Speaker 3>plasters himself against the tree. So there's a scroll in

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<v Speaker 3>a raccoon twenty inches apart.

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<v Speaker 2>He got double tap on that one, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Drew our attention to both the raccoon and the squirrel.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that raccoon was on the ground when we

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<v Speaker 4>set the dogs loose, and he really caught him by

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<v Speaker 4>accident in an area, because.

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<v Speaker 3>Why would the squirrel be up that tree too?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, No, no, I think the raccoon when we got

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<v Speaker 4>out and set the dogs and they started barking whatever

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<v Speaker 4>that if you if you recollect the tree that that

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<v Speaker 4>raccoon was in, no raccoon would ever be in.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>But why would a raccoon and a squirrel go up?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I think the raccoon heard us from a distance

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<v Speaker 4>and was like, I'm gonna get up a tree. This

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<v Speaker 4>is the only option I have at the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of trees in there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but that was there was not a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>big trees there, and it just it just so happens

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<v Speaker 4>that the squirrel ran up the same tree.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 3>Let me tell you, I'm a long time doing it,

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:35.359
<v Speaker 3>since your mama was still wipping your nose. This is

0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:39.640
<v Speaker 3>the unanswerable riddle. Your mom wiped Dirt's nose, got way back,

0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 3>unanswerable riddle. Anyway, you're stepping into the declare that no

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<v Speaker 3>one's gonna know. It was the sequence what anybody was thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>Just you have to do exit interviews. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you looked.

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<v Speaker 4>At the tree that the raccoon was in, you'd be like,

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<v Speaker 4>no way, a raccoon is gonna climb in that tree

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:05.400
<v Speaker 4>just to sleep for the day.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it actually sounded like the start of a good joke.

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:12.680
<v Speaker 3>Raccoon and a squirrel in the same tree. Four guys

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:15.399
<v Speaker 3>walk up to the tree. One guy says, look at

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 3>the coon. The other guy says, look at the squirrel.

0:27:18.400 --> 0:27:23.159
<v Speaker 3>The other guy says, that dog. Just who gets to

0:27:23.160 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 3>shoot the squirrel? Yeah, the dog got so excited a

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:28.719
<v Speaker 3>bit Dirt. Yeah, it was what to do with himself?

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was wound up. Man. So Kevin Murphy didn't

0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 2>even know him. He's the small game guru guru Clay.

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:38.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but Kevin mur SAIDs he's had it happen before,

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:43.200
<v Speaker 1>which I'm like a slightly incredulous sob no disrespect. Uh,

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:46.320
<v Speaker 1>so that one revisit something you're saying what I like

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:46.920
<v Speaker 1>what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it was a little.

0:27:51.600 --> 0:27:52.360
<v Speaker 3>Wasn't a hemlock?

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Was it a hemlock? I don't remember exactly. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a clump of trees.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why did yeah like if it was that that

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:05.000
<v Speaker 1>because that was not where a.

0:28:04.960 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 3>Coon had just lay up for the day.

0:28:06.480 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 2>No, because he'd lay.

0:28:07.280 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Up where he could just get on a big old

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 1>limb way up high.

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Hey, guys, could it be could it be that

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 3>there was a concentrated food source there that the coon

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 3>and the squirrel were hammering together. No, and then because

0:28:18.200 --> 0:28:20.440
<v Speaker 3>that squirrel went a long ways to get there. Really

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 3>so just maybe totally coincidential.

0:28:23.240 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I think that it was one of the few conifers,

0:28:27.640 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 1>and they knew that that confert offered some protection. But

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to picture that these two unrelated creatures, of

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>all the trees and all the woods, that these two creatures,

0:28:39.240 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 1>unless they were hanging out, would have not only gone

0:28:45.880 --> 0:28:49.800
<v Speaker 1>up the same tree, but would have gone up the

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 1>same tree the saint to the same height and sat there.

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 3>One of the great mysteries.

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 2>But you got him and lined up there and retrieved

0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 2>them or the coon.

0:29:02.880 --> 0:29:04.280
<v Speaker 3>One of them fell out and one of them didn't

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 3>fall out.

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 2>I think the squirrel fell out. Go watch the episode

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:07.400
<v Speaker 2>and see what.

0:29:07.560 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's right into the Meteor podcast at the

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<v Speaker 3>meter dot com. Yeah, we'll take any explanations. We'll just

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 3>take them as fact. Idaho mule deer, we don't kill

0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 3>the giant.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

0:29:20.560 --> 0:29:23.360
<v Speaker 3>I was on fire with tag draws. I did draw

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 3>anything this.

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 2>Year, and cool tags used them last year.

0:29:26.440 --> 0:29:28.360
<v Speaker 3>But I was on fire with tag draws last year.

0:29:28.400 --> 0:29:31.720
<v Speaker 3>I drew I drew a your.

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Take down in Idaho and got just a stomper if

0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 1>you want to see.

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 3>It was just one of those deals.

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like misleading and this happens on them, like

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:43.920
<v Speaker 1>we have a lot of episodes or nothing happens, you

0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 1>get skunked.

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Whatever, not many that would it happens.

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 1>It happens, And they had a lot of episodes where

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of normal hunting or you got to grind

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 1>it out.

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 3>Just one of those, just one of those like.

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Just I don't know, there's just good stars aligned.

0:29:59.640 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just like everything like just box you could go

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 1>do that and I've seen this happen because we've had

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 1>some great hunts. Then your buddies go back and they

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>do it again and again and again and it's never

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>like that again. Or I've got spots we hit every

0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>year and you're always chasing. Ten years ago, it was

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:17.600
<v Speaker 1>just something with just a ton of bucks man and

0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:22.440
<v Speaker 1>then really good intel, really good intel.

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:25.480
<v Speaker 3>On both those well, no, on one.

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>It was like I had some friends that had hit

0:30:28.240 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 1>this area hard for archery and I had great They

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>were like, we saw a lot of action here, like,

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 1>don't bother looking there.

0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 3>So you kind of reduce this huge.

0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Area down into a little area because they're like, yeah,

0:30:41.760 --> 0:30:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't waste your time. Don't waste your time now

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>up there, I would definitely spend some time. And if

0:30:46.080 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>not there, I'll go spend some time over there. But right,

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:52.680
<v Speaker 1>so you go into it like really armed and man,

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 1>we had a good time and I had more fun

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:56.440
<v Speaker 1>than anybody.

0:30:58.800 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like eighty plus bigger that was it, tutor there,

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 3>smaller that one eight, smaller, ninety six four waller three

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 3>smaller yeah really one three two, I don't know.

0:31:17.560 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 2>Changes.

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:21.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I dried it in the bucket of water, so

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:25.080
<v Speaker 1>it should still be the same. Yeah, but stick in there,

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:27.080
<v Speaker 1>aged in the bucket of water.

0:31:27.120 --> 0:31:32.719
<v Speaker 3>So I don't think anything changed. That's in there. Your

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:33.440
<v Speaker 3>biggest mulder?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh no, No, for real? Was the Idaho?

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 4>I like, I'm like, he's in the club.

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 3>Did you kill a Yeah?

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Was that Idaho?

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 3>Years ago?

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:48.920
<v Speaker 2>He's in that book? The was it big Bucks of

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Idaho or something?

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Great box of great mual to your box of Idaho?

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 2>Really that buck will probably be in the calendar, I imagine.

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:57.720
<v Speaker 3>No, it's not. Really, there's not a lot of big

0:31:57.720 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 3>old there's not a lot of grip and grins.

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 4>The the Idaho buck is on the cover of this

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 4>Slash season season twelve. Now oh that new Yeah, yeah,

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:13.400
<v Speaker 4>the old, the over two hundred one is not in there.

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 1>You know what's the funny thing about? Like I've hunt

0:32:18.680 --> 0:32:21.280
<v Speaker 1>a mulder and you know I've hunt a mildier in

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Montana for over twenty years. Yeah, over twenty years.

0:32:28.040 --> 0:32:29.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, Ce's mama was still cess.

0:32:29.960 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Mom will still wipe my nose. And when I started hunting, okay,

0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 1>and have covered a lot of ground and just hunted

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>a lot of like a ton of public land milder. Yeah,

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>in Montana twenty years worth. But when you go look

0:32:56.800 --> 0:33:00.920
<v Speaker 1>at my like my wall where I have my like

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>big stuff collection, listen to this, not one of those

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 1>boxes from Montana. Really it's like you look like I

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 1>just looked, look look look like a decade whatever.

0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 3>And you go to some of these other states to

0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 3>the south, you know, Gangbusters, other directions, and you're like, oh,

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:23.200
<v Speaker 3>there's like more big Bucks than I ever saw. Here's

0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 3>the hunting.

0:33:24.640 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 1>It's just the toll, the toll of having like of

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 1>having these long six week rifle seasons that run through

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 1>the rut that it's just you just aren't making you know,

0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 1>they're not the state is not prioritizing. I'm not critical.

0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not criticizing for this. They're not prioritizing.

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:57.360
<v Speaker 3>They're prioritizing opportunity, opportunity over quality. But it's just amazing

0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:01.880
<v Speaker 3>that you can go you know, you saw Colorado, Idaho,

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 3>New Mexico and it's like, oh, there's the MULEI I've

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 3>always wondered where they all are.

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're here.

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:12.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like what happens when you don't just gun for

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 3>him so hard?

0:34:15.120 --> 0:34:18.719
<v Speaker 2>But with that being said, there are some running around

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:19.440
<v Speaker 2>in yeah.

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:21.120
<v Speaker 1>For sure, but which I mean it's not like you

0:34:21.120 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 1>can take an empirical approach to it and just go

0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:24.600
<v Speaker 1>look at Boon and Crockett entries.

0:34:24.920 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 2>M you know, yeah, for sure.

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean they're they're there. They are there.

0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:34.120
<v Speaker 1>But like on public ground, I haven't killed a I've

0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:36.640
<v Speaker 1>never killed I don't think I've ever killed a muley

0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:38.879
<v Speaker 1>buck on private ground. I've never killed a bull elk

0:34:38.960 --> 0:34:39.720
<v Speaker 1>on private ground.

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:44.160
<v Speaker 4>I have a buddy that killed a two hundred inch

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 4>mule deer buck in Montana on block management.

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:47.479
<v Speaker 2>Yep.

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 3>I would count that as public But it's just.

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:53.239
<v Speaker 4>One of those things where right time it was the rut. Yep,

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:55.359
<v Speaker 4>he probably moved off a piece of he made, he

0:34:55.400 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 4>made a mistake.

0:34:56.239 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 2>Yep. Yeah, suicide, so it can happen.

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 1>So, speaking of the lie shows, remember early I was

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 1>plugging our live shows coming up. Uh years ago, me

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:07.879
<v Speaker 1>and Yanni were at a live show.

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I keep seeing action out that window.

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:13.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm looking for horns.

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>We were at a live show years ago, and it

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>was funny because we were at a live show, I

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 1>believe in Idaho.

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 3>We did a live show and or somewhere kn't me aware,

0:35:25.400 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 3>and a dude named Richard Martinez came up and he

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 3>said to me and Yani, you should come hunt turkeys

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:35.359
<v Speaker 3>in the Everglades mm hmm with me, and he.

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Gave me a book. He brought me a gift and

0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 1>gave me a book about the Everglades. And I started.

0:35:40.520 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 1>At that time, me and Yanni started applying for state

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:48.879
<v Speaker 1>gaming areas and it took years for us to draw

0:35:48.960 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 1>the state game area tag. I feel we were pretty

0:35:52.719 --> 0:35:54.000
<v Speaker 1>consistent about our application.

0:35:54.120 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh I bet you guys were so ben should we

0:35:56.280 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 3>drew because we wanted to both have it.

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:00.800
<v Speaker 1>So we were like party app right, and we party

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:07.919
<v Speaker 1>apped and eventually drew our Everglades turkey tags and got

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:12.720
<v Speaker 1>to hook up with this dude, Richard Martinez, passionate about

0:36:12.800 --> 0:36:18.239
<v Speaker 1>who's a very good turkey hunter, really serious outdoorsman and

0:36:18.280 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 1>what's funny about this hanging out with this guy? We

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 1>got a whole episode. This is one of the just

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 1>to return back. This is one of the season twelve

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:28.680
<v Speaker 1>episodes where we go, I see all the turkeys with

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 1>our buddy down there in Florida. How cool it was,

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.880
<v Speaker 1>But it just so happened through some other work stuff.

0:36:34.880 --> 0:36:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I spent a bunch of time in Florida and this

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 1>is not the knock, but like there's a lot of people,

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:43.360
<v Speaker 1>like it's pretty common. This is gonna really piss a

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 1>bunch of people off, and people that aren't pissed are

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna wonder why this would.

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 3>Piss people off. But there will be some pissed people.

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 1>There are states where you where you hear a lot

0:36:55.080 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 1>of unhappiness from hunters and anglers. You know, there's just

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:05.080
<v Speaker 1>like states that generate a lot of resentment.

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 2>On how it's managed or yeah.

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Management success rates whatever. There are just there there are

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:17.680
<v Speaker 1>states where there are states where you just get.

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:21.279
<v Speaker 3>We're a lot of unhappy both hold the smokes is

0:37:21.320 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 3>Florida on them. I couldn't believe.

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:26.560
<v Speaker 2>It, Yeah, which is kind of surprising.

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like some states you go there and you know,

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:30.319
<v Speaker 1>like here, here's the thing to that. And this is

0:37:30.320 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 1>the point I make oftentimes everywhere you go into a

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 1>country and I've been and I've been able to you know,

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I've been. I've had the great fortune over my career

0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:42.560
<v Speaker 1>as a writer and doing TV and other other enterprises

0:37:42.560 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I've been involved in. I've been able to just to

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:49.239
<v Speaker 1>go everywhere, right I've been, I've been able to. I

0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 1>haven't hunted. I mean, I've been to all the states.

0:37:51.920 --> 0:37:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I've hunted and fished in most of them, and I

0:37:54.320 --> 0:37:56.400
<v Speaker 1>just get to meet and talk to a lot of people.

0:37:57.080 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>And the thing that I've always marveled at and puzzled

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 1>over was that everywhere you go, you'll you'll hear two stories,

0:38:08.120 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 1>versions of two narratives. And these narratives could come from

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:12.759
<v Speaker 1>people who are next door neighbors.

0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:16.240
<v Speaker 2>There's there's this, there's.

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Narrative, A narrative A is uh, all the good spots

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:31.400
<v Speaker 1>are gone. Everything got you know, outsiders came in, the

0:38:31.560 --> 0:38:36.879
<v Speaker 1>outer staters ruined it. The wolves ruined it, the coyotes

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:39.799
<v Speaker 1>ruined it, fish and game ruined it.

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Hopeless.

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:48.840
<v Speaker 3>It's like, I don't even go anymore. I lost my spot.

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 3>Uh you name it? Okay? And then next door.

0:38:57.760 --> 0:39:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Everywhere you go, next door not always next door, but

0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:04.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean like in the same universe.

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 3>The same is is you can't even scratch the surface.

0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:12.800
<v Speaker 3>Ye I can't wait to get out of bed in

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<v Speaker 3>the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>That was rich.

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 3>You can't do it all.

0:39:16.400 --> 0:39:20.399
<v Speaker 1>The question is which one are you seth So he's

0:39:20.400 --> 0:39:24.239
<v Speaker 1>a can't scratch the surface. Yeah, So this is ours

0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:25.880
<v Speaker 1>just been like a thing of mine. And it's funny

0:39:25.880 --> 0:39:29.279
<v Speaker 1>because here's this dude that we hang out with, who

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:32.799
<v Speaker 1>like is just a can't scratch the surface guy.

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 2>Man.

0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:41.719
<v Speaker 3>But dude, he scouts hard. Yeah, he like if he's

0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:44.359
<v Speaker 3>not hunting, he's looking.

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 2>For hunting spot. Might like scouting more than he.

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:48.399
<v Speaker 3>Works his ass off.

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 1>But he just like in a place that's in a place,

0:39:50.640 --> 0:39:53.439
<v Speaker 1>and he hunts a lot of areas in a place

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 1>where it's like just it just generates a lot of

0:39:56.400 --> 0:39:58.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, they got it. They got so many cougars

0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:01.360
<v Speaker 1>now and deer population as you're down. But here's a

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:06.520
<v Speaker 1>guy just consistently consistently deer on public land, turkeys on

0:40:06.560 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 1>public land, working his butt off, can't scratch the surface,

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 1>can't get to.

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 3>It all kind of guy. Yep, I liked hanging out

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:14.839
<v Speaker 3>at a.

0:40:14.800 --> 0:40:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Little hard worker behind the scenes of that Florida trip.

0:40:18.280 --> 0:40:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Off topic, ping pong, I smoked you.

0:40:22.800 --> 0:40:27.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh we had a ping pong table, that's right, everybody

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:33.799
<v Speaker 3>eating everyone. That was kind of a weird deal, man, like,

0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:35.560
<v Speaker 3>and you were shook up about it.

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, here's why I was coming in hot, because it

0:40:38.200 --> 0:40:42.200
<v Speaker 1>was like we had just got our kids. This little

0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 1>net you stretch out across your kitchen table. Yeah, so

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:46.479
<v Speaker 1>for nights, dude.

0:40:46.920 --> 0:40:48.880
<v Speaker 3>Every night we ate dinner, we cleared the table, we

0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 3>stretched that net out and just played ping.

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 4>He came in there and thinking he was Joe ping pong,

0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:54.880
<v Speaker 4>so I washooked.

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:56.160
<v Speaker 3>I was pretty hot.

0:40:55.960 --> 0:40:57.400
<v Speaker 1>And I also felt because I was playing on a

0:40:57.440 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 1>slightly smaller kitchen table table row and I've been in

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:03.560
<v Speaker 1>the table is one of those ones that looks like

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:05.520
<v Speaker 1>it was cut from one huge tree, so it's got

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 1>curvy edges. So if I was kicking my kids butts

0:41:09.600 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 1>on that thing, I thought I was gonna come in

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:15.279
<v Speaker 1>and whoop you guys then at ping pong, because I'm

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:18.799
<v Speaker 1>like beating my eight year old, beating my ten year old,

0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 1>sometimes beating my thirteen year old. So I came in

0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:25.400
<v Speaker 1>there like just ready to mop you guys up, man,

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:28.920
<v Speaker 1>and just everybody beat my ass, dude. And I was

0:41:28.920 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 1>coming in fresh off the home table. But a thing

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:36.200
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't figured, man, is like this is an outdoor

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:37.040
<v Speaker 1>ping pong table.

0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:41.359
<v Speaker 3>Wash. Those are susceptible the wind drift yep and the

0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:44.879
<v Speaker 3>sun direction there was everybody was subject to the same

0:41:44.920 --> 0:41:49.400
<v Speaker 3>wind drift yep. But man, just everybody, yann dude, you

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 3>just beat my butt. Yeah, Oh, yeah, he's good. He

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 3>got like you just seem he looks like a dude

0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:57.040
<v Speaker 3>to be good at ping pong.

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:00.680
<v Speaker 2>There.

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I got my ass kicked at ping pong bad

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:03.960
<v Speaker 3>every night.

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:07.759
<v Speaker 1>So when you're watching that episode and you've seen me

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:09.880
<v Speaker 1>having a good time turkey hunting, I want you to

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:12.400
<v Speaker 1>picture me just getting my ass kicked at ping pong

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:12.960
<v Speaker 1>that night.

0:42:12.880 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 2>And taking it out and Osio this baby. You were

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 2>the first tag out. That was a good trip, man,

0:42:19.000 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 2>what a cool space.

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:22.479
<v Speaker 3>I was second to tag out Dirt. I was gonna

0:42:22.520 --> 0:42:24.279
<v Speaker 3>ask you, when did you start filming for.

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:27.160
<v Speaker 2>Me eater twenty fifteen?

0:42:27.600 --> 0:42:29.919
<v Speaker 3>So what season was that? Like? Season four or five?

0:42:30.360 --> 0:42:32.680
<v Speaker 3>I thought you you were in early dye.

0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:36.800
<v Speaker 2>That was early yeah, briy four season four?

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:39.080
<v Speaker 3>Maybe so you filmed four through twelve.

0:42:39.920 --> 0:42:42.440
<v Speaker 2>I'd have to look, but yeah, fourth or fifth season.

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:44.800
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes he'll get off on other stupid projects.

0:42:44.920 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Might racle this, it's not won't can't.

0:42:49.040 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, get he's an international player. Many continents have you

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:57.480
<v Speaker 3>filmed on dirt? Count North America, North America, South America?

0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:02.480
<v Speaker 2>It's like twenty two, twenty three countries continents? Yeah, countries

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:04.840
<v Speaker 2>is yeah, a little over twenty you.

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 3>Filmed in twenty countries. Yeah, that's incredible.

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:12.240
<v Speaker 2>My favorite is America. Yeah hell yeah.

0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, brother, I've said this cold sey Tis. But

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 1>we're in Alaska right now. It reminds me of it.

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:25.480
<v Speaker 1>One time a TV executive said, I don't want to

0:43:25.520 --> 0:43:29.120
<v Speaker 1>say where, but a TV executive said to me, the

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:34.160
<v Speaker 1>only other country our viewers are interested in is Alaska.

0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 2>That's a fair kind of look.

0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:40.720
<v Speaker 3>You're so there's that episode that it was a really

0:43:40.800 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh you were on this one too, dirt.

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:44.760
<v Speaker 2>I think I only missed those two bad.

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:50.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Spearfish and Bahamas. Oh yeah, what like you can

0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:51.080
<v Speaker 3>swim too?

0:43:51.320 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah there it's like a little otter shark bait's.

0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:59.319
<v Speaker 1>Perfect camera man slicking the water. Oh yeah, dirts. If

0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:01.320
<v Speaker 1>you got bad country camera man.

0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, backcountry hiking hauling. He was hauling moose meat.

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Ah, you guys, come on.

0:44:08.080 --> 0:44:11.600
<v Speaker 3>He was hauling, no doubt, one hundred and twenty pound pounds,

0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:15.720
<v Speaker 3>ridiculously stomping me carrying probably a eighty five pounds.

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you've been butchering you guys.

0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 3>Be a sturdy little feller.

0:44:18.320 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 2>He is.

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:21.320
<v Speaker 3>Sturdy little feller.

0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 2>Bahamas was a sweet that blew my mind.

0:44:24.400 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Uh when guy was caught in that episode, he was

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 1>trying to keep count. I think he came in that

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:33.839
<v Speaker 1>we had sixteen and a half species.

0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:37.440
<v Speaker 2>Wow, Hue. That was because one of those.

0:44:37.320 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Fish came in just half of it.

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:41.960
<v Speaker 4>Sharks.

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:43.879
<v Speaker 2>The sharks were gnarly on that one.

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:49.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but uh man, some lot like nice groupers speared.

0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:54.960
<v Speaker 3>A lot of nice groupers had just look at the window, Steve, Oh, oh,

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:57.480
<v Speaker 3>nice moves. We're looking at the window at a guy

0:44:57.520 --> 0:44:59.800
<v Speaker 3>putting a big moosehreck in the back of a truck.

0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Good for Wow, seem bigger.

0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:09.319
<v Speaker 2>Sixteen and a half? Yeah, is that counting the deep

0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:10.879
<v Speaker 2>drop stuff? Oh?

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:16.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we had Yeah.

0:45:16.440 --> 0:45:19.840
<v Speaker 1>So we were with Kimmy Kimmy Werner and then Cameron

0:45:19.960 --> 0:45:26.960
<v Speaker 1>kirk Connell. Cameron kirk Connell. We for those of you

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 1>who've listened to our show, our Campfire Stories series. So

0:45:32.440 --> 0:45:33.799
<v Speaker 1>one of one of the things we make, because we

0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 1>make this thing called Campfire Stories. So we did me

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:38.440
<v Speaker 1>eater Campfire Stories. It's an audiobook. It's an audio original.

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:40.719
<v Speaker 1>It's not an audiobook. It's an audio original. It's like

0:45:40.840 --> 0:45:45.759
<v Speaker 1>very edited storytelling from disparate voices. And if you haven't

0:45:45.800 --> 0:45:49.719
<v Speaker 1>heard it, you should definitely check it out. And we

0:45:49.800 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 1>had volume one Close Calls, and then Volume two was

0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:56.479
<v Speaker 1>narrow Misses and more close Calls. We have volume three

0:45:56.640 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 1>coming up, which is Discoveries, so people find in crazy stuff, bodies, money, whatever.

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:08.439
<v Speaker 1>It's like crazy Discoveries. Beans, bodies means yeah, I'm gonna

0:46:08.480 --> 0:46:10.839
<v Speaker 1>do a whole episode on me finding more pole beans

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:13.839
<v Speaker 1>after my kids have picked them all, after they've picked

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:16.320
<v Speaker 1>them all, I would go and pick fifty more.

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:19.279
<v Speaker 2>And uh.

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:24.080
<v Speaker 1>But in Close Calls, Cameron kirk Connell, we even ran it.

0:46:24.120 --> 0:46:25.759
<v Speaker 1>People will says, you know this because when we were

0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:30.640
<v Speaker 1>promoting meters campfire stories, close Calls, we promoted it with

0:46:30.680 --> 0:46:34.919
<v Speaker 1>our Cameron kirk connell story. So Cameron kirk connell grew

0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:36.560
<v Speaker 1>up in Florida but spends a ton of time in

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the Bahamas, and he tells a story about when he

0:46:38.520 --> 0:46:41.719
<v Speaker 1>was a tarpain guide. It's if you listen back in

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:44.120
<v Speaker 1>episode you'll find it. He was a tarpain guy but

0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:47.920
<v Speaker 1>went spearfishing one day and they were chasing after a

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Couberra snapper and Cameron kirk Connell's dive partner had a blackout.

0:46:53.760 --> 0:46:56.560
<v Speaker 1>So Cameron kirk connell is down deep his dive partner

0:46:56.600 --> 0:46:58.440
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be on the surface or taking turns

0:46:58.480 --> 0:47:01.399
<v Speaker 1>watching each other, but the I almost seen something from

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:05.360
<v Speaker 1>the surface and went after it. So Cameron kirk Connell's

0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 1>down deep and here comes the guy sinking in a

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 1>sort of like upright Chriss cross apple sauce formally.

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 3>Known as Indian style legs.

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they don't call it that anymore. When you go

0:47:21.120 --> 0:47:22.600
<v Speaker 1>to school. My kids they don't even know what that is.

0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:26.640
<v Speaker 1>They think it's criss cross apple sauce. Oh, how you

0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:31.719
<v Speaker 1>say so Chris Cross apple sauce. And he's sinking, passed out,

0:47:32.320 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 1>and Camra kirk Connell's gonna shoot him because he's on

0:47:37.160 --> 0:47:38.800
<v Speaker 1>air and he's on his way up, and so he's like,

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:40.360
<v Speaker 1>he's at least gonna try to shoot him with the

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:41.480
<v Speaker 1>spear shaft.

0:47:41.960 --> 0:47:43.600
<v Speaker 3>So he can drag him back to the surface and

0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:45.240
<v Speaker 3>shoot him in the calf.

0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but the body's spinning, so he's already down on

0:47:50.760 --> 0:47:53.000
<v Speaker 1>his way up, and he has to go crossways to

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:54.799
<v Speaker 1>get to him, and there's no way he's gonna drag

0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:55.160
<v Speaker 1>him up.

0:47:55.160 --> 0:47:56.000
<v Speaker 3>They're both gonna die.

0:47:56.640 --> 0:47:58.880
<v Speaker 1>He spins, and then his only shot is to shoot

0:47:58.920 --> 0:48:02.319
<v Speaker 1>him in the in the five, but he's afraid if

0:48:02.320 --> 0:48:03.799
<v Speaker 1>he shoots him in the thigh is going to bleed

0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 1>to death. So he lowers down and shoots him in

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:10.719
<v Speaker 1>the fin with his spear gun. Long shot too. There's

0:48:10.760 --> 0:48:16.240
<v Speaker 1>guy's on the boat. So he gets up to the surface.

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:18.920
<v Speaker 3>He's like Polo.

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:25.560
<v Speaker 1>And they drag this dude up and resuscitate him. He tells,

0:48:25.840 --> 0:48:29.200
<v Speaker 1>is just an insane story, he tells.

0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:32.480
<v Speaker 3>So that's how he and I became friends. He's he's

0:48:32.520 --> 0:48:34.560
<v Speaker 3>a guide, he's got it all over the world fishing,

0:48:35.640 --> 0:48:39.920
<v Speaker 3>and he's he's like, he's he's a boat captain. He's whatever,

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:43.759
<v Speaker 3>like boat class, you know, like they do like Merchant Marine, right, Well, yeah,

0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:46.680
<v Speaker 3>but they do. You know, you're a captain for whatever tonnages.

0:48:47.200 --> 0:48:51.600
<v Speaker 3>He's a captain any class, super dial. So he could

0:48:51.680 --> 0:48:56.440
<v Speaker 3>drive my ARC sixteen sixty. That's what I'm trying to say, Wow,

0:48:56.760 --> 0:49:02.239
<v Speaker 3>what about the bigger could maybe my canoe, my CEA

0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:04.360
<v Speaker 3>ARC sixteen sixty.

0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:07.360
<v Speaker 2>Let him go, baby, he's got.

0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:11.160
<v Speaker 3>Or you know, the Princess Ocean Liners, Titanic, No.

0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Man watching you guys dive that stuff was so you

0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:14.640
<v Speaker 2>want to talk.

0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:16.440
<v Speaker 1>About a good diver. And then Kimmy Warner is a

0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:19.239
<v Speaker 1>phenomenal die. It's like a show where you watch me

0:49:19.320 --> 0:49:20.400
<v Speaker 1>get my ass kicked.

0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:21.240
<v Speaker 2>By Oh you were crushing.

0:49:21.480 --> 0:49:23.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I was doing good. I was new as

0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 1>good as those guys. Those guys are good, man, those

0:49:26.000 --> 0:49:26.879
<v Speaker 1>guys are good in the water.

0:49:27.840 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 2>That recovery has only been recent. Right after that the

0:49:31.320 --> 0:49:36.320
<v Speaker 2>hurricanes and eighteen or something in Bahamas yep'.

0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Then then there's more, lastly.

0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Alaska with Doctor Randall and Clay nukembe Oh Black Bears

0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:51.120
<v Speaker 1>epic and that is the epic wet suit.

0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:53.840
<v Speaker 3>Black Bear hunt. I'm looking forward to seeing it. I

0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 3>didn't seen it. I didn't show it to you.

0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:56.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I didn't show it to you.

0:49:56.760 --> 0:49:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Usually i'll show it to people.

0:49:58.160 --> 0:50:00.520
<v Speaker 3>You've never showed me a single episode of on before

0:50:00.520 --> 0:50:03.360
<v Speaker 3>it came out. Maybe I'll say sometimes I show it

0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:08.160
<v Speaker 3>to people. I show it to anyone to ask. I'm

0:50:08.200 --> 0:50:10.840
<v Speaker 3>trying not to be a pain. Johanni.

0:50:10.880 --> 0:50:13.600
<v Speaker 1>He always wants to see. He always got comments.

0:50:13.880 --> 0:50:15.080
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know that was an option.

0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:18.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, Yan, get right in there, mm hm. Because

0:50:18.440 --> 0:50:19.960
<v Speaker 1>he'd be like, hey, but what about remember that time

0:50:20.000 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 1>we did X. I'll be like, I forgot about that.

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:25.440
<v Speaker 3>Man, I dig around and find stuff that we had

0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:30.600
<v Speaker 3>forgotten about. I've got middle notes like an elephant. Really.

0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, that's good to keep mind because Yanni would

0:50:33.160 --> 0:50:35.160
<v Speaker 1>quite off be like, dude, why why didn't they use

0:50:35.200 --> 0:50:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the stuff about.

0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:40.960
<v Speaker 3>The whatever or whatever. I'm just making that and then

0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:44.759
<v Speaker 3>we'll dig in there and find it. Mhm. Is there

0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:47.600
<v Speaker 3>still time on the he's done.

0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:50.520
<v Speaker 1>So when we're working on an episode, what we do

0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:55.600
<v Speaker 1>is like we film, we come back, and first someone

0:50:55.600 --> 0:50:59.200
<v Speaker 1>goes to and scours it for everything usable we do

0:50:59.280 --> 0:51:03.399
<v Speaker 1>produce or know which lays it out. I'll often have

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:06.120
<v Speaker 1>some stuff I'll talk about like well, like this is

0:51:06.160 --> 0:51:08.000
<v Speaker 1>the sort of the main thing we're after and this

0:51:08.040 --> 0:51:09.120
<v Speaker 1>is all what I'm interested in.

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<v Speaker 3>Then it'll go to us called a rough cut.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get the rough cut and it'll have like scratch

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<v Speaker 1>VO and then I'll start writing v O yeah, and

0:51:19.640 --> 0:51:22.200
<v Speaker 1>we'll do like general like well this is kind of

0:51:22.200 --> 0:51:24.600
<v Speaker 1>boring and that should be moved around, it's not really

0:51:24.640 --> 0:51:27.960
<v Speaker 1>understand what about the owl right, that kind of stuff,

0:51:28.640 --> 0:51:32.280
<v Speaker 1>and then it'll go to fine and then usually have fine.

0:51:32.400 --> 0:51:34.799
<v Speaker 1>I would show it to Yanni if he's in it

0:51:34.960 --> 0:51:39.279
<v Speaker 1>or whoever. Then from Fine, it goes to picklock, and

0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:42.560
<v Speaker 1>then from picklock it goes to sound and sound.

0:51:42.360 --> 0:51:44.440
<v Speaker 2>And color color correction.

0:51:44.560 --> 0:51:46.399
<v Speaker 3>I think you and then you don't want to dig

0:51:46.440 --> 0:51:50.000
<v Speaker 3>back into it. Everybody gets riled up. Yeah, sure, just.

0:51:49.880 --> 0:51:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Get one point back about the Bahamas. All the beautiful

0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:56.399
<v Speaker 2>underwater filming was not me. That was just.

0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:05.720
<v Speaker 3>Kimmy Werner's husband us from Turkowski Paring parent James Paron, James,

0:52:06.640 --> 0:52:08.120
<v Speaker 3>those are just some little river riders.

0:52:08.160 --> 0:52:11.240
<v Speaker 2>To those when they'd get the guns they were smoking,

0:52:11.320 --> 0:52:14.720
<v Speaker 2>they could shoot too, dude. Legendary underwater.

0:52:16.520 --> 0:52:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very good underwater cinematographers. Wherever you call him underwater

0:52:20.719 --> 0:52:21.879
<v Speaker 1>camera guys about to call.

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<v Speaker 2>Them that works.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the very habit man Season twelve access.

0:52:27.640 --> 0:52:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Can be good.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>October twelfth job.

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<v Speaker 3>That's when it starts. There's there's pumping it up.

0:52:35.200 --> 0:52:39.080
<v Speaker 2>Man, this fancy cops from the scene. X.

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<v Speaker 3>So, Clay, give us a quick give us a quick

0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:52.799
<v Speaker 3>wrap up what we've been doing, Clay. So, we've been

0:52:52.840 --> 0:52:56.200
<v Speaker 3>in we're we are currently in Alaska. We've been on

0:52:56.239 --> 0:53:02.120
<v Speaker 3>our moose hunt, our annual an old moose hunt, and uh,

0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:05.719
<v Speaker 3>this year we were on a different ridge than last year.

0:53:06.560 --> 0:53:11.480
<v Speaker 3>And we I've never honted the same ridge top twice,

0:53:11.320 --> 0:53:17.839
<v Speaker 3>so we came to a new ridge. And this kind

0:53:17.840 --> 0:53:21.880
<v Speaker 3>of hunting, you fly in there's a small airstrip that

0:53:21.880 --> 0:53:24.800
<v Speaker 3>you're able to land super cubs. You camp close to

0:53:24.840 --> 0:53:28.080
<v Speaker 3>the airstrip and you you can only kill a moose

0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:31.919
<v Speaker 3>as close as you can get the moose tot them

0:53:31.960 --> 0:53:35.439
<v Speaker 3>back up to the airstrip. We planned this hunt for

0:53:36.360 --> 0:53:40.600
<v Speaker 3>nine days and planned the hunt so that it ended

0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:43.120
<v Speaker 3>in the latter part of the season, because the closer

0:53:43.200 --> 0:53:47.640
<v Speaker 3>you get deeper you get into September, the better the

0:53:47.640 --> 0:53:51.440
<v Speaker 3>moose right's going to be guaranteed really anywhere. And so

0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:54.719
<v Speaker 3>we started our hunt on September the tenth.

0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I believe the eleventh.

0:53:58.040 --> 0:54:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And and what we say all last year, what

0:54:00.960 --> 0:54:03.319
<v Speaker 3>we hear from people, what Steve's experience, This is my

0:54:03.400 --> 0:54:08.120
<v Speaker 3>second moose hunt, so clearly I'm an expert now is

0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:10.520
<v Speaker 3>that just every day you see the rut pick up

0:54:10.520 --> 0:54:14.400
<v Speaker 3>more and more. And it's a calling game, so you

0:54:14.440 --> 0:54:16.520
<v Speaker 3>don't have a lot of mobility like in elk hunting.

0:54:17.000 --> 0:54:20.640
<v Speaker 3>You you you can, you're moving around, you're calling. You

0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:24.000
<v Speaker 3>might see elk two drainage is over and you figure

0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:25.879
<v Speaker 3>out how to get over there. This is not that

0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:28.719
<v Speaker 3>you you pretty much have a stationary place that you're

0:54:28.760 --> 0:54:34.080
<v Speaker 3>calling from and you're you're calling kind of long term calling.

0:54:34.160 --> 0:54:36.200
<v Speaker 3>The way I think about it is there's a lot

0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:39.719
<v Speaker 3>of calling that you get an immediate response, and you

0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:43.279
<v Speaker 3>know if you're calling with successful ye within seconds or

0:54:43.400 --> 0:54:48.000
<v Speaker 3>minute when you're calling some ducks, calling ducks for seconds, calling.

0:54:47.760 --> 0:54:51.120
<v Speaker 4>Elk, call a turkey and gobbles back.

0:54:51.280 --> 0:54:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is more like you're just

0:54:54.640 --> 0:54:59.960
<v Speaker 3>feeding seeding calls into the into the this very vast land.

0:55:00.520 --> 0:55:02.279
<v Speaker 1>And if I want to point out, if you don't

0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:04.839
<v Speaker 1>call them, you ain't gonna get them.

0:55:05.000 --> 0:55:05.480
<v Speaker 2>That's right.

0:55:05.560 --> 0:55:07.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean it could happen, but it's like it would

0:55:07.560 --> 0:55:09.800
<v Speaker 1>not be a reliable strategy. You're just gonna wait and

0:55:09.840 --> 0:55:10.440
<v Speaker 1>one's gonna.

0:55:10.280 --> 0:55:10.719
<v Speaker 3>Walk by it.

0:55:10.760 --> 0:55:11.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:55:11.120 --> 0:55:17.640
<v Speaker 3>So we're hunting this like rolling rolling hills, big bigger mountains,

0:55:17.880 --> 0:55:22.200
<v Speaker 3>and so what you can see is probably only forty

0:55:22.280 --> 0:55:25.880
<v Speaker 3>percent of what is actually there. I mean, you know,

0:55:26.480 --> 0:55:30.200
<v Speaker 3>rolling off into these big drops the other right, or

0:55:30.239 --> 0:55:33.520
<v Speaker 3>your call is going down into this draw that you

0:55:33.560 --> 0:55:37.520
<v Speaker 3>can't see what's going on down there. And so we

0:55:38.719 --> 0:55:40.799
<v Speaker 3>got into this spot the first day. Is this about

0:55:40.800 --> 0:55:43.240
<v Speaker 3>the pace you want the story to go, great job. Okay,

0:55:44.239 --> 0:55:48.799
<v Speaker 3>So we get in here the first day and the

0:55:48.840 --> 0:55:51.400
<v Speaker 3>clouds parted. We had a little bit of cloud cover,

0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:54.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty sure. The first day. Got in there late

0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:56.640
<v Speaker 3>in the morning, and within thirty minutes we saw a

0:55:56.680 --> 0:55:59.279
<v Speaker 3>bull within about two miles of where we're sitting. This

0:55:59.520 --> 0:56:05.160
<v Speaker 3>The landscape is willow flats, spruce drawls and patches and

0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:08.200
<v Speaker 3>just tundra, and so some of it you can't see

0:56:08.239 --> 0:56:10.319
<v Speaker 3>real well, but some of it you can. Where we

0:56:10.320 --> 0:56:15.160
<v Speaker 3>were sitting, we could see a big saddle between two ridges,

0:56:15.840 --> 0:56:18.120
<v Speaker 3>and we could but we could also see miles and

0:56:18.160 --> 0:56:23.960
<v Speaker 3>miles away on these like high alpine tundra e mountains

0:56:24.000 --> 0:56:26.759
<v Speaker 3>that if we saw a moose there, it really meant

0:56:26.800 --> 0:56:28.400
<v Speaker 3>nothing to us other than just it was fun to

0:56:28.440 --> 0:56:31.200
<v Speaker 3>see him. I mean, we were spotting moose five miles away.

0:56:31.840 --> 0:56:34.279
<v Speaker 3>So the first the first morning, within thirty minutes, we

0:56:34.280 --> 0:56:37.120
<v Speaker 3>saw a moose two miles away, which is semi in

0:56:37.239 --> 0:56:41.520
<v Speaker 3>play because potentially that moose could hear us and we

0:56:41.560 --> 0:56:45.560
<v Speaker 3>could call him and maybe two days later he'd show

0:56:45.640 --> 0:56:46.359
<v Speaker 3>up in our draw.

0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:51.880
<v Speaker 1>We called one. We called one from two miles one

0:56:52.000 --> 0:56:55.000
<v Speaker 1>day and he came in in about it over about

0:56:55.080 --> 0:56:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the course of about an hour it passed. Yeah, and

0:56:59.440 --> 0:57:05.200
<v Speaker 1>some could have even been we debate it was a

0:57:05.239 --> 0:57:06.640
<v Speaker 1>minimum of two miles minutes.

0:57:06.680 --> 0:57:09.120
<v Speaker 3>And they can hear and you can always tell when

0:57:09.120 --> 0:57:11.400
<v Speaker 3>they can hear you, because you you have a we

0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:14.480
<v Speaker 3>have a we've got a new call that we're prototyping

0:57:14.480 --> 0:57:18.560
<v Speaker 3>from Phelps and you moose call and you can see

0:57:18.560 --> 0:57:20.880
<v Speaker 3>the movie. They always they'll turn and look at you

0:57:20.960 --> 0:57:23.040
<v Speaker 3>and just stare if they hear you, you know, and

0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:27.680
<v Speaker 3>you two satellite dishes just be like, yeah, yeah, they'll sit,

0:57:27.920 --> 0:57:32.960
<v Speaker 3>they'll lock up, just and spend minutes without moving, staring.

0:57:32.640 --> 0:57:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Right in the right direction with them big old satellite

0:57:35.280 --> 0:57:36.960
<v Speaker 1>years out Yeah, with their horns.

0:57:37.280 --> 0:57:40.000
<v Speaker 3>So you can tell, like if one's way out there,

0:57:40.040 --> 0:57:41.880
<v Speaker 3>you call and you watch him and you're like, he

0:57:41.920 --> 0:57:45.000
<v Speaker 3>can hear us, and then you you measure your calling

0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:45.360
<v Speaker 3>from that.

0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:48.040
<v Speaker 1>How much he cares is who knows, but you'll know

0:57:48.200 --> 0:57:49.520
<v Speaker 1>like absolutely he hears you.

0:57:49.640 --> 0:57:51.680
<v Speaker 3>A lot of times you'll call and you'll see him

0:57:51.800 --> 0:57:54.520
<v Speaker 3>like start raking a bush. Like they'll kind of be

0:57:54.600 --> 0:57:57.120
<v Speaker 3>like that excites me, not gonna come over there, but

0:57:57.160 --> 0:58:01.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna rake this one. You come here, and we're

0:58:01.280 --> 0:58:05.920
<v Speaker 3>doing three types of calling, cow calls, bull grunts, and raking.

0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:09.880
<v Speaker 3>So actually taking Steve was using the scapula of a

0:58:09.920 --> 0:58:13.440
<v Speaker 3>bull moose from another year, and scraping on the trees.

0:58:13.800 --> 0:58:18.000
<v Speaker 3>And these are basically the three communication mechanisms. Day one,

0:58:18.040 --> 0:58:20.640
<v Speaker 3>we see a bull way off. Later that afternoon we

0:58:20.680 --> 0:58:25.720
<v Speaker 3>spot seth spots two bulls we believe five miles away.

0:58:25.920 --> 0:58:28.840
<v Speaker 3>First day, three bulls. Second day we roll in. We're

0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:32.000
<v Speaker 3>sitting in the same spot. We have this. We have

0:58:32.120 --> 0:58:36.800
<v Speaker 3>a in our where we're hunting is a again a

0:58:36.840 --> 0:58:39.480
<v Speaker 3>saddle between two ridges, and we can probably see out

0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:43.120
<v Speaker 3>eight or nine hundred yards in this saddle, two big

0:58:43.240 --> 0:58:47.680
<v Speaker 3>draws coming up from either side. And second day, I

0:58:47.680 --> 0:58:49.920
<v Speaker 3>believe it was like ten or eleven in the morning,

0:58:50.040 --> 0:58:54.360
<v Speaker 3>we see a good bull come into our saddle. We

0:58:54.400 --> 0:58:57.520
<v Speaker 3>had no knowledge that he was really around. He just

0:58:57.600 --> 0:58:58.840
<v Speaker 3>appeared in our saddle.

0:58:59.320 --> 0:59:00.800
<v Speaker 2>Had been calling all morning.

0:59:00.560 --> 0:59:03.320
<v Speaker 3>We've been called all more so possibly he was coming

0:59:03.320 --> 0:59:06.200
<v Speaker 3>to our calls. He appears, We start calling to him

0:59:06.240 --> 0:59:08.680
<v Speaker 3>more aggressively, try to get him in close. He'll he

0:59:08.760 --> 0:59:11.840
<v Speaker 3>came into like six hundred and seventy five yards, locked

0:59:11.880 --> 0:59:14.840
<v Speaker 3>up in a spruce patch, grunded down. Well, no, you

0:59:14.920 --> 0:59:18.600
<v Speaker 3>left that was pretty prime. I'm just okay. Grunting, yeah,

0:59:19.000 --> 0:59:22.800
<v Speaker 3>crash and brush. Yeah, we thought it was on give

0:59:22.880 --> 0:59:30.280
<v Speaker 3>us a moose grunt yeah yeah, yeah, you know, like

0:59:30.320 --> 0:59:32.960
<v Speaker 3>you're walking through the woods and you get a little

0:59:33.200 --> 0:59:42.720
<v Speaker 3>your little nut tap from the brush on it. Oh yeah, yeah,

0:59:42.800 --> 0:59:50.000
<v Speaker 3>that's that's good. So this was day two and this

0:59:50.120 --> 0:59:54.000
<v Speaker 3>is we believe a mid fifties bull. So in the

0:59:54.080 --> 0:59:57.640
<v Speaker 3>in the world of big moose hunting, like American moose

0:59:57.680 --> 1:00:00.400
<v Speaker 3>are gonna be smaller. You're gonna hear guys in Montana, Idaho,

1:00:00.920 --> 1:00:03.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, fifty inch plus moose in those places is

1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:05.920
<v Speaker 3>going to be pretty big Shyrish moves. And then the

1:00:05.960 --> 1:00:08.280
<v Speaker 3>Canadian mood. It's going to be smaller in the yuk

1:00:08.360 --> 1:00:12.560
<v Speaker 3>in the Alaska Big Alaska Yukon moose, which would also

1:00:12.600 --> 1:00:17.520
<v Speaker 3>be in in the Yukon. British Columbia. Yeah, I don't

1:00:17.520 --> 1:00:20.880
<v Speaker 3>think it's I don't think it's British Columbia. British Southern

1:00:20.920 --> 1:00:25.200
<v Speaker 3>British Columbia is Canada moose. Yeah, I want to say

1:00:25.400 --> 1:00:27.800
<v Speaker 3>the upper part of BC is probably Yukon. But I

1:00:27.800 --> 1:00:32.360
<v Speaker 3>don't know, I don't know, but but but a good

1:00:33.120 --> 1:00:35.320
<v Speaker 3>shooter moose is going to be in the fifty inch range.

1:00:35.400 --> 1:00:39.040
<v Speaker 3>Fifty inch plus top end would be like seventy inches.

1:00:39.360 --> 1:00:46.320
<v Speaker 1>Very few people oftentimes the regulations go that. So, like

1:00:47.040 --> 1:00:50.440
<v Speaker 1>in the state of Alaska, they'll tweak moose regulations. Different

1:00:50.600 --> 1:00:53.000
<v Speaker 1>units will have different open dates, different units have different

1:00:53.000 --> 1:00:58.080
<v Speaker 1>closed dates, and you'll quite often see it's pretty typical

1:00:58.160 --> 1:01:00.880
<v Speaker 1>that a moose has to be fifty inch tip, so.

1:01:00.880 --> 1:01:05.520
<v Speaker 3>A fifty inch spread, and or.

1:01:07.040 --> 1:01:09.840
<v Speaker 1>They'll specify how many browtinns it needs on one side,

1:01:10.240 --> 1:01:11.560
<v Speaker 1>so he might be in an area that has a

1:01:11.720 --> 1:01:14.520
<v Speaker 1>it's a three what they would call a three browtying unit,

1:01:14.680 --> 1:01:17.520
<v Speaker 1>meaning if one of his sides has three brow times

1:01:17.600 --> 1:01:20.360
<v Speaker 1>is legal. You could be in a four browtying unit

1:01:20.760 --> 1:01:23.360
<v Speaker 1>where if one besides his four brow times, he's legal.

1:01:23.680 --> 1:01:26.640
<v Speaker 1>But he could have zero brow times and be fifty

1:01:27.080 --> 1:01:30.320
<v Speaker 1>or he could have no paddles but have four brow times.

1:01:30.320 --> 1:01:33.880
<v Speaker 3>So it's either work right and this bull would have

1:01:34.040 --> 1:01:37.560
<v Speaker 3>was plenty legal in both ways. Yeah, he had a

1:01:37.600 --> 1:01:43.080
<v Speaker 3>lot of browtimes, was well over fifty inches wide, and

1:01:43.440 --> 1:01:44.640
<v Speaker 3>we felt like we were going to kill him. On

1:01:44.760 --> 1:01:46.880
<v Speaker 3>day two, he betted down. We messed with him for

1:01:46.960 --> 1:01:51.000
<v Speaker 3>several hours. He was within seven hundred yards for several hours.

1:01:51.000 --> 1:01:54.200
<v Speaker 3>He betted down three different times. But the more we

1:01:54.320 --> 1:01:56.479
<v Speaker 3>called to him, the more he hung around, the less

1:01:56.480 --> 1:02:00.400
<v Speaker 3>he was interested, and he fades off into the willow brush,

1:02:00.480 --> 1:02:03.720
<v Speaker 3>going away from us two o'clock that afternoon. That was

1:02:04.080 --> 1:02:06.160
<v Speaker 3>the last action we had on day two. We go

1:02:06.200 --> 1:02:09.960
<v Speaker 3>into day three, we see nothing but a cow moose.

1:02:10.080 --> 1:02:12.480
<v Speaker 3>We sit on that hill for twelve hours. So the

1:02:12.480 --> 1:02:15.200
<v Speaker 3>sequence of our hunt is is that these are long

1:02:15.280 --> 1:02:19.640
<v Speaker 3>days up here right now, twelve hour days, and we

1:02:19.840 --> 1:02:22.560
<v Speaker 3>wake up when the sun starts, you know, when the

1:02:22.600 --> 1:02:25.480
<v Speaker 3>sky starts to get light, have some coffee, have a

1:02:25.480 --> 1:02:28.439
<v Speaker 3>little breakfast, head out when you can see good, get

1:02:28.480 --> 1:02:30.480
<v Speaker 3>on the side of the mountain and literally be there

1:02:30.560 --> 1:02:32.280
<v Speaker 3>to sit there for twelve hours.

1:02:32.440 --> 1:02:35.520
<v Speaker 1>If you really you could sit till seven thirty. But

1:02:35.720 --> 1:02:38.240
<v Speaker 1>you could still probably shoot till eight thirty. But at

1:02:38.240 --> 1:02:40.440
<v Speaker 1>a point you just gotta be like, at a point,

1:02:40.520 --> 1:02:42.000
<v Speaker 1>you've been there twelve hours.

1:02:42.120 --> 1:02:44.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a long set. And so it's a long

1:02:45.000 --> 1:02:47.440
<v Speaker 3>set when you're not seeing anything. So that that third

1:02:47.520 --> 1:02:50.240
<v Speaker 3>day we didn't even see the far off bulls. So

1:02:50.240 --> 1:02:53.480
<v Speaker 3>sometimes you're just entertained by watching through the glass these

1:02:53.520 --> 1:02:56.400
<v Speaker 3>bulls way off and thinking the other day is day.

1:02:56.240 --> 1:02:58.040
<v Speaker 4>Three, we saw the BlackBerry we're ripping through.

1:02:58.160 --> 1:03:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so, Yeah, that was like the only

1:03:00.720 --> 1:03:01.800
<v Speaker 2>thing we saw that day. I think.

1:03:01.880 --> 1:03:03.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we did see one black bear. We had a

1:03:03.760 --> 1:03:06.840
<v Speaker 3>black bear tag, but couldn't it just we just saw

1:03:06.840 --> 1:03:10.920
<v Speaker 3>a flash of a black bear? Yeah, Day four, So

1:03:11.040 --> 1:03:12.880
<v Speaker 3>that was a tough day. We all said that that

1:03:12.960 --> 1:03:14.880
<v Speaker 3>was a tough day. And the other thing about this

1:03:14.960 --> 1:03:19.520
<v Speaker 3>hunt is that the temperatures seem like they're reasonable. You know,

1:03:20.280 --> 1:03:25.280
<v Speaker 3>let's say mid twenties to mid forties to mid forties,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like that's not that cold. But man, when

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<v Speaker 3>you're out there for ten days constantly battling that, and

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<v Speaker 3>when in high humidity, we were freezing to death. We

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<v Speaker 3>were just sitting to so damn windy and you're just

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<v Speaker 3>sitting yep. So it's a real struggle to just stay warm,

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<v Speaker 3>even with good gear and like all the gear you need.

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<v Speaker 3>We were making a little fire.

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<v Speaker 1>You can do it, like you can really get layered

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<v Speaker 1>up and be good, but it's just you're just not

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<v Speaker 1>doing anything to generate any warmth.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like I said, ten twelve hours, so yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know, but we talked about how much this

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<v Speaker 3>this type of hunting is so different than many other hunts.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a it's a unique hunt and you got to

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<v Speaker 3>be in the right state of mind to sit in

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<v Speaker 3>the same place for potentially nine or ten days, for

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<v Speaker 3>twelve hours a day and not be validated by not

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<v Speaker 3>seeing game.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and a lot of whitetail hunters will say, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>that's easy. I do that all the time in November.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just different. I mean, I've done lots of all

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<v Speaker 4>day sits for white tails. It's different.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So day day four we didn't see anything either,

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<v Speaker 3>did we our neighborhood I saw, I saw a glimpse

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<v Speaker 3>of the same, probably.

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<v Speaker 2>The same saying those long bulls, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I picked the day four we saw the bulls

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<v Speaker 3>that were five miles away or one bull five miles

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<v Speaker 3>away and a cow close. So that's two tough days

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<v Speaker 3>and and it's it's taxing mentally, and uh, we're you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it is fun when you're with a group of guys,

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<v Speaker 3>though you're all talking the whole day and eating snacks,

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<v Speaker 3>whispering and and we we were all all of us

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<v Speaker 3>were calling, and so we we named. Everybody has a

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<v Speaker 3>little different tone and frequency and vibe with their moose call.

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<v Speaker 3>We decided that Dirt probably had the best cow moose call,

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<v Speaker 3>Seth was clearly the best bullgrunner. I'll take it, and uh,

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<v Speaker 3>and so on day five comes around and it's just

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<v Speaker 3>a game of odds.

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<v Speaker 2>I like a hunt.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just a game of odds. I can sit somewhere

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<v Speaker 3>for a long time. I'll sit there and I like

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<v Speaker 3>it when that's what you're working against. Yep, Like it

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't take a total lot of skill to just sit.

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<v Speaker 2>There tacity just for days. Yeah, what did you guys say?

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<v Speaker 2>It's like there's physical suffrage, and there's.

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<v Speaker 3>There's two there's two ways of suffer hunting. Yep, there's more,

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<v Speaker 3>but like like just general stuff that's physically taxing yep.

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<v Speaker 3>You know it's like getting up and pounding it out

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<v Speaker 3>and pounding it out and hiking back up out of

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<v Speaker 3>the mountain, hiking back up the top of the mountain,

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<v Speaker 3>hiking through the swamp, whatever the hell it is. And

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<v Speaker 3>then there's just like the mental like, yeah, sitting and

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<v Speaker 3>you're looking at such a like it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Being like like a friend of mine who does it,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like it's trusting the process that there are these

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<v Speaker 1>things they're called moose, and they are going to get

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<v Speaker 1>into the rut and they're gonna start moving, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be receptive to calling, and you need to be

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<v Speaker 1>there calling and they're gonna hear it and they're gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Come, and it might not happen till the last day.

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<v Speaker 2>Having for ten days, one of the one of the

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<v Speaker 2>boys that's seen us when we landed today saw that

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<v Speaker 2>other that other moose had. Oh that's what they look like.

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<v Speaker 2>They've been out right ten days not even seen a moose. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Anyway, so day five comes, we go to our spot.

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<v Speaker 3>We it's like you you feel like it's gonna happen,

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<v Speaker 3>but you never feel like it's gonna happen today. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you're like, I know, I just feel like

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonna kill a moose. We're doing the right stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>but it probably won't happen today. That's the way I

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<v Speaker 3>always feel.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to happen, it's hard to picture it happening. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>But we did see a cow in that same zone

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<v Speaker 2>that we had seen that bull on day two, which

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<v Speaker 2>was yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we had a cow in our in our in

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<v Speaker 3>our saddle that was kind of in our zone. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>within eight hundred yards of us, saw a cow and

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<v Speaker 3>and again the moose. Shrut's picking up, and we we

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<v Speaker 3>know that's happening, not because of what we're seeing, but

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<v Speaker 3>just because we know it is happening. And about ten o'clock,

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<v Speaker 3>day five, Seth looks in a direction that we weren't

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<v Speaker 3>focused on a lot of attention. Well, he moved.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm.

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<v Speaker 3>He had been glassing for four days. From one spot.

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<v Speaker 3>He moved like six feet.

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<v Speaker 1>He moved down slope to a spot he'd never before

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<v Speaker 1>sat in.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, had a feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>He moved down slope ever so slightly. And the minute

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<v Speaker 3>he got there, that's say to him, seeing a move

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<v Speaker 3>he said, he said, I got a bull and the

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<v Speaker 3>spruce and this bull was would we say it was

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<v Speaker 3>a mile away? At least I think it was a mile.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you how far it was away it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was, it was close to a mile. Maybe I

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<v Speaker 3>would have said three quarters.

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<v Speaker 2>Of it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, this is like ten o'clock, right ten o'clock in

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<v Speaker 3>the morning. And what we learned is on this landscape

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<v Speaker 3>there's let's just say there's three things going on. Tundra, willows,

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<v Speaker 3>and spruce, that's all there is, and that's part of Alaska,

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<v Speaker 3>and we man the bulls just stick.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like a willow aspen birch mix.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you're right, aspen birch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It all looks very similar, assiduous hardwood.

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<v Speaker 4>It's brushy, yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's small The least of those is the spruce.

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<v Speaker 3>Where we're at, there's a little drawls of spruce. And

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<v Speaker 3>anyway Seth sees a bull sees satellite paddles. And what

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<v Speaker 3>you're looking for when you're glassing for these moose is

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<v Speaker 3>not you're not looking for moose. You're looking for paddles.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're white, big white.

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<v Speaker 3>Big white paddles out but it takes you a while

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<v Speaker 3>to understand the scale of what one looks like. The

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<v Speaker 3>first one you see every year, you're like, oh, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what they look like from a mile and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>And they're always smaller than you think. But when I

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<v Speaker 3>see the one, when I saw the ones you found Seth,

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<v Speaker 3>five miles away, they were bigger than I thought they

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<v Speaker 3>would be.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought the same.

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<v Speaker 3>But when the bull was in our saddle six hundred

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<v Speaker 3>yards away, he was way smaller than I thought. He

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<v Speaker 3>would be. It's like this game of scale, like trying

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<v Speaker 3>to figure out what they look like. So he sees one.

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<v Speaker 3>We rip a cow call and man, he slams our direction.

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<v Speaker 3>We know he hears this. He locks in on us.

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<v Speaker 3>Now all four of us looking trying to find the bull,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're like, oh, we see him.

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<v Speaker 2>There he is.

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<v Speaker 3>He's looking at us, and then directly we see him

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<v Speaker 3>moving our way. And that's always a good sign when

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<v Speaker 3>you get a quick response. He just kind of moving

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<v Speaker 3>our direction. But we're not too fired up. He comes

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<v Speaker 3>around the point of this kind of on the spine

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<v Speaker 3>of this little ridge.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a mile away mile sorry mile, Yeah, nevermind, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't tell.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, in and out with the vegetation.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you can't see him the whole you can't

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<v Speaker 3>see him. So so but he but he's coming our

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<v Speaker 3>We see him like fifty yards from where he was,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's coming our way, and we get excited hit

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<v Speaker 3>him again with a call. And you're always trying to

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<v Speaker 3>understand how much calling do we need because we felt

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<v Speaker 3>like we might have overcalled the bull that was real

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<v Speaker 3>close to us the other day, and so you're like, what,

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<v Speaker 3>what does this bull want.

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<v Speaker 4>To hear, you're like feeling him out.

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<v Speaker 3>And so we noticed that every time that I called,

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<v Speaker 3>he would start moving before the he got to the

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<v Speaker 3>point where he would stop. I would call, he would

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<v Speaker 3>start moving towards me before I even finished the call. Yep,

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<v Speaker 3>And that tells you he likes it. And so we

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<v Speaker 3>called a lot and just kind of trying to guide

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<v Speaker 3>him in. And then he got into the thick aspen

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<v Speaker 3>willow brush and we could just see bits and pieces

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<v Speaker 3>of him, and the sequence from him coming to the

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<v Speaker 3>spruce to coming within three hundred yards was probably I

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<v Speaker 3>would say a forty minute ordeal thirty thirty plus, and

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<v Speaker 3>were seeing bits and pieces of him. And at first,

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<v Speaker 3>Steve Vnellas, I remember you said you didn't get the

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<v Speaker 3>vibe that he was a real big bull. I said,

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<v Speaker 3>he's not a seventy incher. Okay, okay, we can review

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<v Speaker 3>the footage. I just remember, this isn't this isn't bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying, this is what you're going through. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>trying to describe when you first see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me tell you why. Okay, I was doing Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>here's where I screwed up. Early on, I was doing

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<v Speaker 1>a comparison of looking at the fronts and the paddles. Mmm,

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<v Speaker 1>that'll get that'll get you on this And when you

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<v Speaker 1>see this particular animal, you will understand why.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you're like, well, what.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is his why why is he why does that

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<v Speaker 1>at his fronts? Yeah, which led me to have just

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<v Speaker 1>it just threw it was throwing me off. Then later

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<v Speaker 1>I was starting to get auch. Once I saw the

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<v Speaker 1>extent of it, I was starting to get a much

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<v Speaker 1>different vibe. But early on I was just I wasn't like,

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't look like sheets. It didn't look like half

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<v Speaker 1>sheets supply would come in.

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<v Speaker 3>Through the woods. Yeah. So when need to wrapt this

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<v Speaker 3>up in five minutes, don't don't don't spoil the end.

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<v Speaker 3>So the bulls coming in were we're trying to we

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<v Speaker 3>know it's a shooter. It just looks like from the

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<v Speaker 3>from the man I've learned with moose, when I see paddles,

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<v Speaker 3>no matter what distance, I'm like, it's a monster. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just just like yeah. But I when the first second

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<v Speaker 3>I saw this moose, all that registered on my mind

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<v Speaker 3>was I was like, golly, that's a lot of paddle.

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<v Speaker 3>It just looked it was just the volume of paddle

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<v Speaker 3>was big, and man, the closer he got, the bigger

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<v Speaker 3>he got, and pretty soon we're getting we're all getting

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<v Speaker 3>really good looks at him, and and he's just big,

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<v Speaker 3>huge fronts and you're you're looking for brow times on

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<v Speaker 3>these bulls, and you know you're you're happy if you

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<v Speaker 3>see one with four brow tons on each side. Bulls

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<v Speaker 3>got ten brow times on both sides. Just super Nova,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's its name. And loving your call, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And we're we're constantly trying to decide how much to call.

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<v Speaker 3>Every time we call. He's moving, so we keep giving

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<v Speaker 3>him what he wants, and he's not coming directly to us.

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<v Speaker 3>He's swinging around trying to get down win, which is

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<v Speaker 3>what they typically do. And but he I mean, we

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<v Speaker 3>got him because he's got a cross through a man.

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<v Speaker 1>I like everything I'm here, and I like everything I'm hearing,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just like to get a little sniff before

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't want to go barging there without

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<v Speaker 1>a little sniff yep, Like I want to get a

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<v Speaker 1>lay of the lane, like who's.

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<v Speaker 3>Up there or what's going on? Is it a bull?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Sniff sniff's yeah. So but we got to wrap

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<v Speaker 3>this up quick. He doesn't desperately want to get down win,

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<v Speaker 3>but he wants to get down with Yeah, and we

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<v Speaker 3>feel like every time we call it, he's just pulling

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit tighter to us. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>that was true.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think so.

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<v Speaker 3>But we were calling a lot and you'll see this

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<v Speaker 3>on the one day this will come out and you'll

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<v Speaker 3>get to watch it. And man, I mean it was

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<v Speaker 3>that forty minute sequence was as good of a hunt

1:15:02.960 --> 1:15:05.720
<v Speaker 3>as there is on planet Earth. I mean, for real,

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<v Speaker 3>just watching him come, the excitement of trying to gauge

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<v Speaker 3>how big he is. Is he gonna come?

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<v Speaker 2>Is he not?

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<v Speaker 3>We've been here, we worked so hard to get here.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a crazy place. We're cold, we're tired where

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<v Speaker 3>and here he comes and then he's big, and I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just it was. It was exciting. One of the

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<v Speaker 3>last things we witnessed him do.

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<v Speaker 1>As he went to thrash in a tree and for

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<v Speaker 1>some reason stuck his horn down in the ground like

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<v Speaker 1>a spade shovel and.

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<v Speaker 3>Flaw threw up a cloud of soil.

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<v Speaker 2>And kept walking. Yeah, like they ain't nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Is he still out there? Is he still out there?

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<v Speaker 3>Or is he in the van? Stay tuned? Is that

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<v Speaker 3>the way we're gonna leave it. We're gonna leave it

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<v Speaker 3>like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, was that a miser hit or you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know?

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<v Speaker 2>And one more yeah, stay tuned. Nice ri On.

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<v Speaker 3>Seal Bran shine like silver in the sun, right right

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<v Speaker 3>on alone.

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<v Speaker 2>Sweet.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't beat this day horse to death, so taking

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<v Speaker 5>a new one and ride away. We're done beat this

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<v Speaker 5>damn horse today, So take a new one and ride on.

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