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Speaker 1: This is the Meat Eater Podcast coming at you shirtless, severely,

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Speaker 1: E dot com. I'm gonna have Krin set up a

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Speaker 1: complaint hotline where people could complain about dirt myth.

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Speaker 3: Oh whoa, let me tell you why.

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Speaker 2: It's be a short list.

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Speaker 3: Man, we.

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Speaker 2: What what?

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Speaker 3: What do you doing? What do you got going on

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Speaker 3: with the chest?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so our plan? A year ago, a year ago

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Speaker 1: to almost to the to the t we recorded an

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm, great.

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Speaker 2: Episode, great episode.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of energy, Yeah, a lot of energy.

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Speaker 1: Great episode, little road trip. Very successful. I know this

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Speaker 1: is a very successful episode. Some people say the most

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Speaker 1: like you know, I'm really kind of like trying to

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Speaker 1: build up so people get extra mad at Dirt. The

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Speaker 1: plan was, we're gonna do that the same thing, the

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Speaker 1: second annual, same stretch of highway, same time of year show.

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Speaker 3: Uh well we.

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Speaker 1: Get just getting ready to do it, and now a

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Speaker 1: little complication. The meantime is now we launched these episodes.

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Speaker 1: These episodes are available on YouTube video.

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Speaker 3: An old Dirt can't do myth, it's never been men

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Speaker 3: says that it can't be done.

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Speaker 2: It can be done with what we got going on?

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Speaker 3: What do you button into?

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Speaker 2: This forces the senator record straight.

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Speaker 1: I've been watching driving scenes since Strange Brew.

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Speaker 1: There's a driving scene in Strange Brew. I've been watching

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Speaker 3: Scooby Doo cartoon man.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, never mind that example, Hazard Dukes of Hazzard.

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Speaker 1: I've been watching driving scenes my whole life. Somehow, Dirt

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Speaker 2: Not in our set, not with the equipment that we have.

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Speaker 1: So we're stuck filming. Not that I have any problem

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Speaker 2: Pretty cool mm hmm. Airplanes fly around.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna make We're gonna make do a lot of

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Speaker 1: listeners know that the reason you're not getting served up

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Speaker 1: another phenomenal mediator podcast, Van Life, episode Part two is

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Speaker 1: because of dirt.

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Speaker 2: You'd get carsick if you watch that episode, it.

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Speaker 3: Would be a little bouncy.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's fair because I don't.

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Speaker 3: Mean if we told people where we're at, like the

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Speaker 4: No, I just think that it's not fair to blame

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Speaker 4: Is, Well, there's a lot more that would have to

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Speaker 1: H okay, a lot of feedback. You were you there?

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Speaker 3: No there. It was a great episode.

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Speaker 1: On that episode, I debuted an old saying I came

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Speaker 3: Looking for it's always But what about that new wall

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Speaker 1: Count that beans, so fresh set of eyes will always

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Speaker 1: So Edits came in a new view gathers more beans. No, No,

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Speaker 3: A fresh set of eyes will always find the prize.

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Speaker 3: New eyes find new beans.

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Speaker 3: A fresh set of eyes, we'll see where the beans lie.

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Speaker 1: A couple announcements and clear you're gonna be here for

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be great fun. Clay's gonna hit something,

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Speaker 3: Me and Dirt, Oh, you and dirt gonna be wolf

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Speaker 3: trapping me and dirt. We're like mud and clay. Dirt

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Speaker 1: special guests every night. Wednesday, December sixth, first show of

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Speaker 3: Let's go KC.

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Speaker 1: Foley Theater, Kansas City. We're gonna take a night off

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Speaker 1: hours from Chicago Capital Theater. December tenth, Kalamazoo, Michigan. Home

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we sold way more albums. December eleventh, my daughter's birthday.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be big man laughs. Trivia prize winning funny stuff.

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Speaker 1: infinitesticly small. Where the dog trees a squirrel, the squirrel

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Speaker 1: runs up a tree and stops comes to rest. Was

442
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,679
Speaker 1: it eighteen twenty inches.

443
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the coon happened to be in the tree

444
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,919
Speaker 3: this daytime. Yeah, the squirrel passed the coon up and

445
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: plasters himself against the tree. So there's a scroll in

446
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 3: a raccoon twenty inches apart.

447
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 2: He got double tap on that one, which.

448
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 3: Drew our attention to both the raccoon and the squirrel.

449
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 4: I think that raccoon was on the ground when we

450
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 4: set the dogs loose, and he really caught him by

451
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Speaker 4: accident in an area, because.

452
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Speaker 3: Why would the squirrel be up that tree too?

453
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Speaker 4: Well, No, no, I think the raccoon when we got

454
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 4: out and set the dogs and they started barking whatever

455
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 4: that if you if you recollect the tree that that

456
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 4: raccoon was in, no raccoon would ever be in.

457
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: I think.

458
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 3: But why would a raccoon and a squirrel go up?

459
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 4: No, I think the raccoon heard us from a distance

460
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 4: and was like, I'm gonna get up a tree. This

461
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 4: is the only option I have at the moment.

462
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 3: There's a lot of trees in there.

463
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that was there was not a lot of

464
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 4: big trees there, and it just it just so happens

465
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 4: that the squirrel ran up the same tree.

466
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: It was.

467
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 3: Let me tell you, I'm a long time doing it,

468
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 3: since your mama was still wipping your nose. This is

469
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 3: the unanswerable riddle. Your mom wiped Dirt's nose, got way back,

470
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 3: unanswerable riddle. Anyway, you're stepping into the declare that no

471
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 3: one's gonna know. It was the sequence what anybody was thinking.

472
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 3: Just you have to do exit interviews. Yeah.

473
00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you looked.

474
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 4: At the tree that the raccoon was in, you'd be like,

475
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 4: no way, a raccoon is gonna climb in that tree

476
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 4: just to sleep for the day.

477
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: No, it actually sounded like the start of a good joke.

478
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 3: Raccoon and a squirrel in the same tree. Four guys

479
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 3: walk up to the tree. One guy says, look at

480
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 3: the coon. The other guy says, look at the squirrel.

481
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 3: The other guy says, that dog. Just who gets to

482
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 3: shoot the squirrel? Yeah, the dog got so excited a

483
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 3: bit Dirt. Yeah, it was what to do with himself?

484
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was wound up. Man. So Kevin Murphy didn't

485
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 2: even know him. He's the small game guru guru Clay.

486
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Kevin mur SAIDs he's had it happen before,

487
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: which I'm like a slightly incredulous sob no disrespect. Uh,

488
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: so that one revisit something you're saying what I like

489
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: what you're saying.

490
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: Okay, it was a little.

491
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 3: Wasn't a hemlock?

492
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 2: Was it a hemlock? I don't remember exactly. It was

493
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: a clump of trees.

494
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, why did yeah like if it was that that

495
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: because that was not where a.

496
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 3: Coon had just lay up for the day.

497
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 2: No, because he'd lay.

498
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: Up where he could just get on a big old

499
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: limb way up high.

500
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, guys, could it be could it be that

501
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 3: there was a concentrated food source there that the coon

502
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 3: and the squirrel were hammering together. No, and then because

503
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 3: that squirrel went a long ways to get there. Really

504
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: so just maybe totally coincidential.

505
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: I think that it was one of the few conifers,

506
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: and they knew that that confert offered some protection. But

507
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: it's hard to picture that these two unrelated creatures, of

508
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: all the trees and all the woods, that these two creatures,

509
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 1: unless they were hanging out, would have not only gone

510
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: up the same tree, but would have gone up the

511
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: same tree the saint to the same height and sat there.

512
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 3: One of the great mysteries.

513
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 2: But you got him and lined up there and retrieved

514
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: them or the coon.

515
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: One of them fell out and one of them didn't

516
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 3: fall out.

517
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: I think the squirrel fell out. Go watch the episode

518
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 2: and see what.

519
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right into the Meteor podcast at the

520
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: meter dot com. Yeah, we'll take any explanations. We'll just

521
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 3: take them as fact. Idaho mule deer, we don't kill

522
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: the giant.

523
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: Well.

524
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 3: I was on fire with tag draws. I did draw

525
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 3: anything this.

526
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 2: Year, and cool tags used them last year.

527
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 3: But I was on fire with tag draws last year.

528
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 3: I drew I drew a your.

529
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: Take down in Idaho and got just a stomper if

530
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: you want to see.

531
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 3: It was just one of those deals.

532
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 1: It's almost like misleading and this happens on them, like

533
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: we have a lot of episodes or nothing happens, you

534
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: get skunked.

535
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: Whatever, not many that would it happens.

536
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: It happens, And they had a lot of episodes where

537
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: it's kind of normal hunting or you got to grind

538
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: it out.

539
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 3: Just one of those, just one of those like.

540
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: Just I don't know, there's just good stars aligned.

541
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like everything like just box you could go

542
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: do that and I've seen this happen because we've had

543
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 1: some great hunts. Then your buddies go back and they

544
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: do it again and again and again and it's never

545
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: like that again. Or I've got spots we hit every

546
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: year and you're always chasing. Ten years ago, it was

547
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: just something with just a ton of bucks man and

548
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: then really good intel, really good intel.

549
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 3: On both those well, no, on one.

550
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: It was like I had some friends that had hit

551
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: this area hard for archery and I had great They

552
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: were like, we saw a lot of action here, like,

553
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: don't bother looking there.

554
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 3: So you kind of reduce this huge.

555
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: Area down into a little area because they're like, yeah,

556
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: I don't waste your time. Don't waste your time now

557
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: up there, I would definitely spend some time. And if

558
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: not there, I'll go spend some time over there. But right,

559
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 1: so you go into it like really armed and man,

560
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: we had a good time and I had more fun

561
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: than anybody.

562
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, like eighty plus bigger that was it, tutor there,

563
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: smaller that one eight, smaller, ninety six four waller three

564
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 3: smaller yeah really one three two, I don't know.

565
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: Changes.

566
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I dried it in the bucket of water, so

567
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: it should still be the same. Yeah, but stick in there,

568
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: aged in the bucket of water.

569
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 3: So I don't think anything changed. That's in there. Your

570
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 3: biggest mulder?

571
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: Uh no, No, for real? Was the Idaho?

572
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 4: I like, I'm like, he's in the club.

573
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 3: Did you kill a Yeah?

574
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: Was that Idaho?

575
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 3: Years ago?

576
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: He's in that book? The was it big Bucks of

577
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: Idaho or something?

578
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 3: Great box of great mual to your box of Idaho?

579
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: Really that buck will probably be in the calendar, I imagine.

580
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 3: No, it's not. Really, there's not a lot of big

581
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: old there's not a lot of grip and grins.

582
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 4: The the Idaho buck is on the cover of this

583
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 4: Slash season season twelve. Now oh that new Yeah, yeah,

584
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 4: the old, the over two hundred one is not in there.

585
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: You know what's the funny thing about? Like I've hunt

586
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: a mulder and you know I've hunt a mildier in

587
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: Montana for over twenty years. Yeah, over twenty years.

588
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 3: Well, Ce's mama was still cess.

589
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: Mom will still wipe my nose. And when I started hunting, okay,

590
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: and have covered a lot of ground and just hunted

591
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: a lot of like a ton of public land milder. Yeah,

592
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: in Montana twenty years worth. But when you go look

593
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: at my like my wall where I have my like

594
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: big stuff collection, listen to this, not one of those

595
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: boxes from Montana. Really it's like you look like I

596
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: just looked, look look look like a decade whatever.

597
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: And you go to some of these other states to

598
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: the south, you know, Gangbusters, other directions, and you're like, oh,

599
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 3: there's like more big Bucks than I ever saw. Here's

600
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: the hunting.

601
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: It's just the toll, the toll of having like of

602
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: having these long six week rifle seasons that run through

603
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: the rut that it's just you just aren't making you know,

604
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 1: they're not the state is not prioritizing. I'm not critical.

605
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: I'm not criticizing for this. They're not prioritizing.

606
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 3: They're prioritizing opportunity, opportunity over quality. But it's just amazing

607
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: that you can go you know, you saw Colorado, Idaho,

608
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: New Mexico and it's like, oh, there's the MULEI I've

609
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 3: always wondered where they all are.

610
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're here.

611
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like what happens when you don't just gun for

612
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 3: him so hard?

613
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 2: But with that being said, there are some running around

614
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: in yeah.

615
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: For sure, but which I mean it's not like you

616
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: can take an empirical approach to it and just go

617
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 1: look at Boon and Crockett entries.

618
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: M you know, yeah, for sure.

619
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 3: I mean they're they're there. They are there.

620
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: But like on public ground, I haven't killed a I've

621
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: never killed I don't think I've ever killed a muley

622
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 1: buck on private ground. I've never killed a bull elk

623
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:39,720
Speaker 1: on private ground.

624
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 4: I have a buddy that killed a two hundred inch

625
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 4: mule deer buck in Montana on block management.

626
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:47,479
Speaker 2: Yep.

627
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 3: I would count that as public But it's just.

628
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 4: One of those things where right time it was the rut. Yep,

629
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 4: he probably moved off a piece of he made, he

630
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 4: made a mistake.

631
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, suicide, so it can happen.

632
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: So, speaking of the lie shows, remember early I was

633
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: plugging our live shows coming up. Uh years ago, me

634
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: and Yanni were at a live show.

635
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: I keep seeing action out that window.

636
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 3: I'm looking for horns.

637
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: We were at a live show years ago, and it

638
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: was funny because we were at a live show, I

639
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: believe in Idaho.

640
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: We did a live show and or somewhere kn't me aware,

641
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 3: and a dude named Richard Martinez came up and he

642
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 3: said to me and Yani, you should come hunt turkeys

643
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 3: in the Everglades mm hmm with me, and he.

644
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 1: Gave me a book. He brought me a gift and

645
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: gave me a book about the Everglades. And I started.

646
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: At that time, me and Yanni started applying for state

647
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: gaming areas and it took years for us to draw

648
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: the state game area tag. I feel we were pretty

649
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: consistent about our application.

650
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 3: Oh I bet you guys were so ben should we

651
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 3: drew because we wanted to both have it.

652
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 1: So we were like party app right, and we party

653
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 1: apped and eventually drew our Everglades turkey tags and got

654
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,720
Speaker 1: to hook up with this dude, Richard Martinez, passionate about

655
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 1: who's a very good turkey hunter, really serious outdoorsman and

656
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: what's funny about this hanging out with this guy? We

657
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: got a whole episode. This is one of the just

658
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: to return back. This is one of the season twelve

659
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: episodes where we go, I see all the turkeys with

660
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: our buddy down there in Florida. How cool it was,

661
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: But it just so happened through some other work stuff.

662
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: I spent a bunch of time in Florida and this

663
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: is not the knock, but like there's a lot of people,

664
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: like it's pretty common. This is gonna really piss a

665
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: bunch of people off, and people that aren't pissed are

666
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: gonna wonder why this would.

667
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: Piss people off. But there will be some pissed people.

668
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: There are states where you where you hear a lot

669
00:36:55,080 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: of unhappiness from hunters and anglers. You know, there's just

670
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: like states that generate a lot of resentment.

671
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: On how it's managed or yeah.

672
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: Management success rates whatever. There are just there there are

673
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: states where there are states where you just get.

674
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 3: We're a lot of unhappy both hold the smokes is

675
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 3: Florida on them. I couldn't believe.

676
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: It, Yeah, which is kind of surprising.

677
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, like some states you go there and you know,

678
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 1: like here, here's the thing to that. And this is

679
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: the point I make oftentimes everywhere you go into a

680
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: country and I've been and I've been able to you know,

681
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: I've been. I've had the great fortune over my career

682
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: as a writer and doing TV and other other enterprises

683
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: I've been involved in. I've been able to just to

684
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: go everywhere, right I've been, I've been able to. I

685
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: haven't hunted. I mean, I've been to all the states.

686
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: I've hunted and fished in most of them, and I

687
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: just get to meet and talk to a lot of people.

688
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: And the thing that I've always marveled at and puzzled

689
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: over was that everywhere you go, you'll you'll hear two stories,

690
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: versions of two narratives. And these narratives could come from

691
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: people who are next door neighbors.

692
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 2: There's there's this, there's.

693
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 1: Narrative, A narrative A is uh, all the good spots

694
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: are gone. Everything got you know, outsiders came in, the

695
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:36,879
Speaker 1: outer staters ruined it. The wolves ruined it, the coyotes

696
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: ruined it, fish and game ruined it.

697
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 2: Hopeless.

698
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't even go anymore. I lost my spot.

699
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 3: Uh you name it? Okay? And then next door.

700
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: Everywhere you go, next door not always next door, but

701
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,720
Speaker 1: I mean like in the same universe.

702
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 3: The same is is you can't even scratch the surface.

703
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 3: Ye I can't wait to get out of bed in

704
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 3: the morning.

705
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 2: That was rich.

706
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 3: You can't do it all.

707
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,399
Speaker 1: The question is which one are you seth So he's

708
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: a can't scratch the surface. Yeah, So this is ours

709
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: just been like a thing of mine. And it's funny

710
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,279
Speaker 1: because here's this dude that we hang out with, who

711
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: like is just a can't scratch the surface guy.

712
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: Man.

713
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 3: But dude, he scouts hard. Yeah, he like if he's

714
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,359
Speaker 3: not hunting, he's looking.

715
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: For hunting spot. Might like scouting more than he.

716
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 3: Works his ass off.

717
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: But he just like in a place that's in a place,

718
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: and he hunts a lot of areas in a place

719
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: where it's like just it just generates a lot of

720
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: you know, they got it. They got so many cougars

721
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 1: now and deer population as you're down. But here's a

722
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: guy just consistently consistently deer on public land, turkeys on

723
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: public land, working his butt off, can't scratch the surface,

724
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: can't get to.

725
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 3: It all kind of guy. Yep, I liked hanging out

726
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 3: at a.

727
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 2: Little hard worker behind the scenes of that Florida trip.

728
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: Off topic, ping pong, I smoked you.

729
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 3: Oh we had a ping pong table, that's right, everybody

730
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 3: eating everyone. That was kind of a weird deal, man, like,

731
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 3: and you were shook up about it.

732
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: Well, here's why I was coming in hot, because it

733
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: was like we had just got our kids. This little

734
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: net you stretch out across your kitchen table. Yeah, so

735
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,479
Speaker 1: for nights, dude.

736
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 3: Every night we ate dinner, we cleared the table, we

737
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 3: stretched that net out and just played ping.

738
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 4: He came in there and thinking he was Joe ping pong,

739
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 4: so I washooked.

740
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 3: I was pretty hot.

741
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 1: And I also felt because I was playing on a

742
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: slightly smaller kitchen table table row and I've been in

743
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: the table is one of those ones that looks like

744
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: it was cut from one huge tree, so it's got

745
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: curvy edges. So if I was kicking my kids butts

746
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: on that thing, I thought I was gonna come in

747
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: and whoop you guys then at ping pong, because I'm

748
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: like beating my eight year old, beating my ten year old,

749
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: sometimes beating my thirteen year old. So I came in

750
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: there like just ready to mop you guys up, man,

751
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: and just everybody beat my ass, dude. And I was

752
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: coming in fresh off the home table. But a thing

753
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: I hadn't figured, man, is like this is an outdoor

754
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: ping pong table.

755
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 3: Wash. Those are susceptible the wind drift yep and the

756
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 3: sun direction there was everybody was subject to the same

757
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 3: wind drift yep. But man, just everybody, yann dude, you

758
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 3: just beat my butt. Yeah, Oh, yeah, he's good. He

759
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 3: got like you just seem he looks like a dude

760
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 3: to be good at ping pong.

761
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: There.

762
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got my ass kicked at ping pong bad

763
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: every night.

764
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: So when you're watching that episode and you've seen me

765
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: having a good time turkey hunting, I want you to

766
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 1: picture me just getting my ass kicked at ping pong

767
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: that night.

768
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: And taking it out and Osio this baby. You were

769
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: the first tag out. That was a good trip, man,

770
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: what a cool space.

771
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,479
Speaker 3: I was second to tag out Dirt. I was gonna

772
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 3: ask you, when did you start filming for.

773
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 2: Me eater twenty fifteen?

774
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,919
Speaker 3: So what season was that? Like? Season four or five?

775
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 3: I thought you you were in early dye.

776
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 2: That was early yeah, briy four season four?

777
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 3: Maybe so you filmed four through twelve.

778
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: I'd have to look, but yeah, fourth or fifth season.

779
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 3: Sometimes he'll get off on other stupid projects.

780
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 2: Might racle this, it's not won't can't.

781
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, get he's an international player. Many continents have you

782
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 3: filmed on dirt? Count North America, North America, South America?

783
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: It's like twenty two, twenty three countries continents? Yeah, countries

784
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 2: is yeah, a little over twenty you.

785
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: Filmed in twenty countries. Yeah, that's incredible.

786
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 2: My favorite is America. Yeah hell yeah.

787
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, brother, I've said this cold sey Tis. But

788
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: we're in Alaska right now. It reminds me of it.

789
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: One time a TV executive said, I don't want to

790
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: say where, but a TV executive said to me, the

791
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: only other country our viewers are interested in is Alaska.

792
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 2: That's a fair kind of look.

793
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 3: You're so there's that episode that it was a really

794
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: Oh you were on this one too, dirt.

795
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,760
Speaker 2: I think I only missed those two bad.

796
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Spearfish and Bahamas. Oh yeah, what like you can

797
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: swim too?

798
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

799
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah there it's like a little otter shark bait's.

800
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: Perfect camera man slicking the water. Oh yeah, dirts. If

801
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: you got bad country camera man.

802
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: Well, backcountry hiking hauling. He was hauling moose meat.

803
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: Ah, you guys, come on.

804
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: He was hauling, no doubt, one hundred and twenty pound pounds,

805
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 3: ridiculously stomping me carrying probably a eighty five pounds.

806
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah you've been butchering you guys.

807
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 3: Be a sturdy little feller.

808
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: He is.

809
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 3: Sturdy little feller.

810
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: Bahamas was a sweet that blew my mind.

811
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: Uh when guy was caught in that episode, he was

812
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: trying to keep count. I think he came in that

813
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: we had sixteen and a half species.

814
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 2: Wow, Hue. That was because one of those.

815
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 3: Fish came in just half of it.

816
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 4: Sharks.

817
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,879
Speaker 2: The sharks were gnarly on that one.

818
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but uh man, some lot like nice groupers speared.

819
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 3: A lot of nice groupers had just look at the window, Steve, Oh, oh,

820
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: nice moves. We're looking at the window at a guy

821
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 3: putting a big moosehreck in the back of a truck.

822
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 3: Good for Wow, seem bigger.

823
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 2: Sixteen and a half? Yeah, is that counting the deep

824
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 2: drop stuff? Oh?

825
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we had Yeah.

826
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: So we were with Kimmy Kimmy Werner and then Cameron

827
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: kirk Connell. Cameron kirk Connell. We for those of you

828
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: who've listened to our show, our Campfire Stories series. So

829
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: one of one of the things we make, because we

830
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: make this thing called Campfire Stories. So we did me

831
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: eater Campfire Stories. It's an audiobook. It's an audio original.

832
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: It's not an audiobook. It's an audio original. It's like

833
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: very edited storytelling from disparate voices. And if you haven't

834
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: heard it, you should definitely check it out. And we

835
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: had volume one Close Calls, and then Volume two was

836
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,479
Speaker 1: narrow Misses and more close Calls. We have volume three

837
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: coming up, which is Discoveries, so people find in crazy stuff, bodies, money, whatever.

838
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 1: It's like crazy Discoveries. Beans, bodies means yeah, I'm gonna

839
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: do a whole episode on me finding more pole beans

840
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 1: after my kids have picked them all, after they've picked

841
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,320
Speaker 1: them all, I would go and pick fifty more.

842
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 2: And uh.

843
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: But in Close Calls, Cameron kirk Connell, we even ran it.

844
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: People will says, you know this because when we were

845
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: promoting meters campfire stories, close Calls, we promoted it with

846
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 1: our Cameron kirk connell story. So Cameron kirk connell grew

847
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: up in Florida but spends a ton of time in

848
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: the Bahamas, and he tells a story about when he

849
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: was a tarpain guide. It's if you listen back in

850
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: episode you'll find it. He was a tarpain guy but

851
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: went spearfishing one day and they were chasing after a

852
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: Couberra snapper and Cameron kirk Connell's dive partner had a blackout.

853
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: So Cameron kirk connell is down deep his dive partner

854
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: was supposed to be on the surface or taking turns

855
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,399
Speaker 1: watching each other, but the I almost seen something from

856
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 1: the surface and went after it. So Cameron kirk Connell's

857
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: down deep and here comes the guy sinking in a

858
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: sort of like upright Chriss cross apple sauce formally.

859
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: Known as Indian style legs.

860
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't call it that anymore. When you go

861
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: to school. My kids they don't even know what that is.

862
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: They think it's criss cross apple sauce. Oh, how you

863
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: say so Chris Cross apple sauce. And he's sinking, passed out,

864
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: and Camra kirk Connell's gonna shoot him because he's on

865
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 1: air and he's on his way up, and so he's like,

866
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: he's at least gonna try to shoot him with the

867
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: spear shaft.

868
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 3: So he can drag him back to the surface and

869
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 3: shoot him in the calf.

870
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, but the body's spinning, so he's already down on

871
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: his way up, and he has to go crossways to

872
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: get to him, and there's no way he's gonna drag

873
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: him up.

874
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 3: They're both gonna die.

875
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: He spins, and then his only shot is to shoot

876
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 1: him in the in the five, but he's afraid if

877
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 1: he shoots him in the thigh is going to bleed

878
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: to death. So he lowers down and shoots him in

879
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: the fin with his spear gun. Long shot too. There's

880
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 1: guy's on the boat. So he gets up to the surface.

881
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 3: He's like Polo.

882
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: And they drag this dude up and resuscitate him. He tells,

883
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: is just an insane story, he tells.

884
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 3: So that's how he and I became friends. He's he's

885
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 3: a guide, he's got it all over the world fishing,

886
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 3: and he's he's like, he's he's a boat captain. He's whatever,

887
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 3: like boat class, you know, like they do like Merchant Marine, right, Well, yeah,

888
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 3: but they do. You know, you're a captain for whatever tonnages.

889
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 3: He's a captain any class, super dial. So he could

890
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 3: drive my ARC sixteen sixty. That's what I'm trying to say, Wow,

891
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 3: what about the bigger could maybe my canoe, my CEA

892
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 3: ARC sixteen sixty.

893
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 2: Let him go, baby, he's got.

894
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 3: Or you know, the Princess Ocean Liners, Titanic, No.

895
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 2: Man watching you guys dive that stuff was so you

896
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: want to talk.

897
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: About a good diver. And then Kimmy Warner is a

898
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: phenomenal die. It's like a show where you watch me

899
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: get my ass kicked.

900
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 2: By Oh you were crushing.

901
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I was doing good. I was new as

902
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: good as those guys. Those guys are good, man, those

903
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: guys are good in the water.

904
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 2: That recovery has only been recent. Right after that the

905
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 2: hurricanes and eighteen or something in Bahamas yep'.

906
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: Then then there's more, lastly.

907
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: Alaska with Doctor Randall and Clay nukembe Oh Black Bears

908
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: epic and that is the epic wet suit.

909
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 3: Black Bear hunt. I'm looking forward to seeing it. I

910
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 3: didn't seen it. I didn't show it to you.

911
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: I don't know why I didn't show it to you.

912
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: Usually i'll show it to people.

913
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 3: You've never showed me a single episode of on before

914
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 3: it came out. Maybe I'll say sometimes I show it

915
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 3: to people. I show it to anyone to ask. I'm

916
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 3: trying not to be a pain. Johanni.

917
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: He always wants to see. He always got comments.

918
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 3: I didn't know that was an option.

919
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Yan, get right in there, mm hm. Because

920
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: he'd be like, hey, but what about remember that time

921
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: we did X. I'll be like, I forgot about that.

922
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 3: Man, I dig around and find stuff that we had

923
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 3: forgotten about. I've got middle notes like an elephant. Really.

924
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: Oh well, that's good to keep mind because Yanni would

925
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: quite off be like, dude, why why didn't they use

926
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: the stuff about.

927
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 3: The whatever or whatever. I'm just making that and then

928
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 3: we'll dig in there and find it. Mhm. Is there

929
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 3: still time on the he's done.

930
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 1: So when we're working on an episode, what we do

931
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 1: is like we film, we come back, and first someone

932
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: goes to and scours it for everything usable we do

933
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 1: produce or know which lays it out. I'll often have

934
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: some stuff I'll talk about like well, like this is

935
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: the sort of the main thing we're after and this

936
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: is all what I'm interested in.

937
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 3: Then it'll go to us called a rough cut.

938
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: We'll get the rough cut and it'll have like scratch

939
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: VO and then I'll start writing v O yeah, and

940
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: we'll do like general like well this is kind of

941
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: boring and that should be moved around, it's not really

942
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: understand what about the owl right, that kind of stuff,

943
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,280
Speaker 1: and then it'll go to fine and then usually have fine.

944
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: I would show it to Yanni if he's in it

945
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: or whoever. Then from Fine, it goes to picklock, and

946
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: then from picklock it goes to sound and sound.

947
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 2: And color color correction.

948
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,399
Speaker 3: I think you and then you don't want to dig

949
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 3: back into it. Everybody gets riled up. Yeah, sure, just.

950
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: Get one point back about the Bahamas. All the beautiful

951
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,399
Speaker 2: underwater filming was not me. That was just.

952
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 3: Kimmy Werner's husband us from Turkowski Paring parent James Paron, James,

953
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 3: those are just some little river riders.

954
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 2: To those when they'd get the guns they were smoking,

955
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,720
Speaker 2: they could shoot too, dude. Legendary underwater.

956
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, very good underwater cinematographers. Wherever you call him underwater

957
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 1: camera guys about to call.

958
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 2: Them that works.

959
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, the very habit man Season twelve access.

960
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: Can be good.

961
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.

962
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: October twelfth job.

963
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 3: That's when it starts. There's there's pumping it up.

964
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: Man, this fancy cops from the scene. X.

965
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 3: So, Clay, give us a quick give us a quick

966
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 3: wrap up what we've been doing, Clay. So, we've been

967
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 3: in we're we are currently in Alaska. We've been on

968
00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: our moose hunt, our annual an old moose hunt, and uh,

969
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 3: this year we were on a different ridge than last year.

970
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 3: And we I've never honted the same ridge top twice,

971
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:17,839
Speaker 3: so we came to a new ridge. And this kind

972
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 3: of hunting, you fly in there's a small airstrip that

973
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 3: you're able to land super cubs. You camp close to

974
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 3: the airstrip and you you can only kill a moose

975
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 3: as close as you can get the moose tot them

976
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,439
Speaker 3: back up to the airstrip. We planned this hunt for

977
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 3: nine days and planned the hunt so that it ended

978
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: in the latter part of the season, because the closer

979
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 3: you get deeper you get into September, the better the

980
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 3: moose right's going to be guaranteed really anywhere. And so

981
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 3: we started our hunt on September the tenth.

982
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: I believe the eleventh.

983
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, And and what we say all last year, what

984
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 3: we hear from people, what Steve's experience, This is my

985
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 3: second moose hunt, so clearly I'm an expert now is

986
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 3: that just every day you see the rut pick up

987
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 3: more and more. And it's a calling game, so you

988
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 3: don't have a lot of mobility like in elk hunting.

989
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,640
Speaker 3: You you you can, you're moving around, you're calling. You

990
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 3: might see elk two drainage is over and you figure

991
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,879
Speaker 3: out how to get over there. This is not that

992
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 3: you you pretty much have a stationary place that you're

993
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 3: calling from and you're you're calling kind of long term calling.

994
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 3: The way I think about it is there's a lot

995
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 3: of calling that you get an immediate response, and you

996
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 3: know if you're calling with successful ye within seconds or

997
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 3: minute when you're calling some ducks, calling ducks for seconds, calling.

998
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 4: Elk, call a turkey and gobbles back.

999
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is more like you're just

1000
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 3: feeding seeding calls into the into the this very vast land.

1001
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: And if I want to point out, if you don't

1002
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: call them, you ain't gonna get them.

1003
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 2: That's right.

1004
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: I mean it could happen, but it's like it would

1005
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 1: not be a reliable strategy. You're just gonna wait and

1006
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: one's gonna.

1007
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:10,719
Speaker 3: Walk by it.

1008
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1009
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 3: So we're hunting this like rolling rolling hills, big bigger mountains,

1010
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 3: and so what you can see is probably only forty

1011
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 3: percent of what is actually there. I mean, you know,

1012
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 3: rolling off into these big drops the other right, or

1013
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 3: your call is going down into this draw that you

1014
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 3: can't see what's going on down there. And so we

1015
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 3: got into this spot the first day. Is this about

1016
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,240
Speaker 3: the pace you want the story to go, great job. Okay,

1017
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 3: So we get in here the first day and the

1018
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 3: clouds parted. We had a little bit of cloud cover,

1019
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure. The first day. Got in there late

1020
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 3: in the morning, and within thirty minutes we saw a

1021
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 3: bull within about two miles of where we're sitting. This

1022
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 3: The landscape is willow flats, spruce drawls and patches and

1023
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 3: just tundra, and so some of it you can't see

1024
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 3: real well, but some of it you can. Where we

1025
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 3: were sitting, we could see a big saddle between two ridges,

1026
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 3: and we could but we could also see miles and

1027
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 3: miles away on these like high alpine tundra e mountains

1028
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 3: that if we saw a moose there, it really meant

1029
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 3: nothing to us other than just it was fun to

1030
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,200
Speaker 3: see him. I mean, we were spotting moose five miles away.

1031
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 3: So the first the first morning, within thirty minutes, we

1032
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 3: saw a moose two miles away, which is semi in

1033
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 3: play because potentially that moose could hear us and we

1034
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 3: could call him and maybe two days later he'd show

1035
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 3: up in our draw.

1036
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: We called one. We called one from two miles one

1037
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: day and he came in in about it over about

1038
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: the course of about an hour it passed. Yeah, and

1039
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: some could have even been we debate it was a

1040
00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: minimum of two miles minutes.

1041
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 3: And they can hear and you can always tell when

1042
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 3: they can hear you, because you you have a we

1043
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 3: have a we've got a new call that we're prototyping

1044
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 3: from Phelps and you moose call and you can see

1045
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 3: the movie. They always they'll turn and look at you

1046
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 3: and just stare if they hear you, you know, and

1047
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 3: you two satellite dishes just be like, yeah, yeah, they'll sit,

1048
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 3: they'll lock up, just and spend minutes without moving, staring.

1049
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: Right in the right direction with them big old satellite

1050
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: years out Yeah, with their horns.

1051
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 3: So you can tell, like if one's way out there,

1052
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 3: you call and you watch him and you're like, he

1053
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 3: can hear us, and then you you measure your calling

1054
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 3: from that.

1055
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: How much he cares is who knows, but you'll know

1056
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: like absolutely he hears you.

1057
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:51,680
Speaker 3: A lot of times you'll call and you'll see him

1058
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 3: like start raking a bush. Like they'll kind of be

1059
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 3: like that excites me, not gonna come over there, but

1060
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 3: I'm gonna rake this one. You come here, and we're

1061
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 3: doing three types of calling, cow calls, bull grunts, and raking.

1062
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 3: So actually taking Steve was using the scapula of a

1063
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 3: bull moose from another year, and scraping on the trees.

1064
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 3: And these are basically the three communication mechanisms. Day one,

1065
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 3: we see a bull way off. Later that afternoon we

1066
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 3: spot seth spots two bulls we believe five miles away.

1067
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 3: First day, three bulls. Second day we roll in. We're

1068
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 3: sitting in the same spot. We have this. We have

1069
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 3: a in our where we're hunting is a again a

1070
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 3: saddle between two ridges, and we can probably see out

1071
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 3: eight or nine hundred yards in this saddle, two big

1072
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:47,680
Speaker 3: draws coming up from either side. And second day, I

1073
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 3: believe it was like ten or eleven in the morning,

1074
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 3: we see a good bull come into our saddle. We

1075
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 3: had no knowledge that he was really around. He just

1076
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 3: appeared in our saddle.

1077
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: Had been calling all morning.

1078
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 3: We've been called all more so possibly he was coming

1079
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 3: to our calls. He appears, We start calling to him

1080
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 3: more aggressively, try to get him in close. He'll he

1081
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 3: came into like six hundred and seventy five yards, locked

1082
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 3: up in a spruce patch, grunded down. Well, no, you

1083
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 3: left that was pretty prime. I'm just okay. Grunting, yeah,

1084
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 3: crash and brush. Yeah, we thought it was on give

1085
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 3: us a moose grunt yeah yeah, yeah, you know, like

1086
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 3: you're walking through the woods and you get a little

1087
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 3: your little nut tap from the brush on it. Oh yeah, yeah,

1088
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:50,000
Speaker 3: that's that's good. So this was day two and this

1089
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 3: is we believe a mid fifties bull. So in the

1090
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 3: in the world of big moose hunting, like American moose

1091
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 3: are gonna be smaller. You're gonna hear guys in Montana, Idaho,

1092
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 3: you know, fifty inch plus moose in those places is

1093
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 3: going to be pretty big Shyrish moves. And then the

1094
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 3: Canadian mood. It's going to be smaller in the yuk

1095
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 3: in the Alaska Big Alaska Yukon moose, which would also

1096
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 3: be in in the Yukon. British Columbia. Yeah, I don't

1097
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:20,880
Speaker 3: think it's I don't think it's British Columbia. British Southern

1098
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 3: British Columbia is Canada moose. Yeah, I want to say

1099
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 3: the upper part of BC is probably Yukon. But I

1100
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 3: don't know, I don't know, but but but a good

1101
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 3: shooter moose is going to be in the fifty inch range.

1102
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 3: Fifty inch plus top end would be like seventy inches.

1103
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: Very few people oftentimes the regulations go that. So, like

1104
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: in the state of Alaska, they'll tweak moose regulations. Different

1105
01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: units will have different open dates, different units have different

1106
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: closed dates, and you'll quite often see it's pretty typical

1107
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:00,880
Speaker 1: that a moose has to be fifty inch tip, so.

1108
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 3: A fifty inch spread, and or.

1109
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: They'll specify how many browtinns it needs on one side,

1110
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: so he might be in an area that has a

1111
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,520
Speaker 1: it's a three what they would call a three browtying unit,

1112
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: meaning if one of his sides has three brow times

1113
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: is legal. You could be in a four browtying unit

1114
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: where if one besides his four brow times, he's legal.

1115
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: But he could have zero brow times and be fifty

1116
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: or he could have no paddles but have four brow times.

1117
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,880
Speaker 3: So it's either work right and this bull would have

1118
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 3: was plenty legal in both ways. Yeah, he had a

1119
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 3: lot of browtimes, was well over fifty inches wide, and

1120
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 3: we felt like we were going to kill him. On

1121
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 3: day two, he betted down. We messed with him for

1122
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 3: several hours. He was within seven hundred yards for several hours.

1123
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 3: He betted down three different times. But the more we

1124
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,479
Speaker 3: called to him, the more he hung around, the less

1125
01:01:56,480 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 3: he was interested, and he fades off into the willow brush,

1126
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 3: going away from us two o'clock that afternoon. That was

1127
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 3: the last action we had on day two. We go

1128
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 3: into day three, we see nothing but a cow moose.

1129
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 3: We sit on that hill for twelve hours. So the

1130
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 3: sequence of our hunt is is that these are long

1131
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 3: days up here right now, twelve hour days, and we

1132
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 3: wake up when the sun starts, you know, when the

1133
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 3: sky starts to get light, have some coffee, have a

1134
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,439
Speaker 3: little breakfast, head out when you can see good, get

1135
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 3: on the side of the mountain and literally be there

1136
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 3: to sit there for twelve hours.

1137
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 1: If you really you could sit till seven thirty. But

1138
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: you could still probably shoot till eight thirty. But at

1139
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: a point you just gotta be like, at a point,

1140
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: you've been there twelve hours.

1141
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a long set. And so it's a long

1142
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 3: set when you're not seeing anything. So that that third

1143
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 3: day we didn't even see the far off bulls. So

1144
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 3: sometimes you're just entertained by watching through the glass these

1145
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,400
Speaker 3: bulls way off and thinking the other day is day.

1146
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 4: Three, we saw the BlackBerry we're ripping through.

1147
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, Yeah, that was like the only

1148
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 2: thing we saw that day. I think.

1149
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did see one black bear. We had a

1150
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 3: black bear tag, but couldn't it just we just saw

1151
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 3: a flash of a black bear? Yeah, Day four, So

1152
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 3: that was a tough day. We all said that that

1153
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 3: was a tough day. And the other thing about this

1154
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 3: hunt is that the temperatures seem like they're reasonable. You know,

1155
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 3: let's say mid twenties to mid forties to mid forties,

1156
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 3: and it's like that's not that cold. But man, when

1157
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 3: you're out there for ten days constantly battling that, and

1158
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 3: when in high humidity, we were freezing to death. We

1159
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 3: were just sitting to so damn windy and you're just

1160
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 3: sitting yep. So it's a real struggle to just stay warm,

1161
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 3: even with good gear and like all the gear you need.

1162
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 3: We were making a little fire.

1163
01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: You can do it, like you can really get layered

1164
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: up and be good, but it's just you're just not

1165
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: doing anything to generate any warmth.

1166
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, ten twelve hours, so yeah, yeah,

1167
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 3: but you know, but we talked about how much this

1168
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 3: this type of hunting is so different than many other hunts.

1169
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 3: It's a it's a unique hunt and you got to

1170
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 3: be in the right state of mind to sit in

1171
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 3: the same place for potentially nine or ten days, for

1172
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 3: twelve hours a day and not be validated by not

1173
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 3: seeing game.

1174
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and a lot of whitetail hunters will say, oh,

1175
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 4: that's easy. I do that all the time in November.

1176
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 4: It's just different. I mean, I've done lots of all

1177
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 4: day sits for white tails. It's different.

1178
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, So day day four we didn't see anything either,

1179
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,760
Speaker 3: did we our neighborhood I saw, I saw a glimpse

1180
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 3: of the same, probably.

1181
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 2: The same saying those long bulls, I think.

1182
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I picked the day four we saw the bulls

1183
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 3: that were five miles away or one bull five miles

1184
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 3: away and a cow close. So that's two tough days

1185
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 3: and and it's it's taxing mentally, and uh, we're you know,

1186
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 3: it is fun when you're with a group of guys,

1187
01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 3: though you're all talking the whole day and eating snacks,

1188
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,800
Speaker 3: whispering and and we we were all all of us

1189
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 3: were calling, and so we we named. Everybody has a

1190
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,440
Speaker 3: little different tone and frequency and vibe with their moose call.

1191
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 3: We decided that Dirt probably had the best cow moose call,

1192
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 3: Seth was clearly the best bullgrunner. I'll take it, and uh,

1193
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 3: and so on day five comes around and it's just

1194
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 3: a game of odds.

1195
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 2: I like a hunt.

1196
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 3: That's just a game of odds. I can sit somewhere

1197
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 3: for a long time. I'll sit there and I like

1198
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 3: it when that's what you're working against. Yep, Like it

1199
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 3: doesn't take a total lot of skill to just sit.

1200
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: There tacity just for days. Yeah, what did you guys say?

1201
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 2: It's like there's physical suffrage, and there's.

1202
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,919
Speaker 3: There's two there's two ways of suffer hunting. Yep, there's more,

1203
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 3: but like like just general stuff that's physically taxing yep.

1204
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 3: You know it's like getting up and pounding it out

1205
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 3: and pounding it out and hiking back up out of

1206
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 3: the mountain, hiking back up the top of the mountain,

1207
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 3: hiking through the swamp, whatever the hell it is. And

1208
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 3: then there's just like the mental like, yeah, sitting and

1209
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 3: you're looking at such a like it's.

1210
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 1: Being like like a friend of mine who does it,

1211
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 1: He's like it's trusting the process that there are these

1212
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: things they're called moose, and they are going to get

1213
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: into the rut and they're gonna start moving, and they're

1214
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: gonna be receptive to calling, and you need to be

1215
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 1: there calling and they're gonna hear it and they're gonna.

1216
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 2: Come, and it might not happen till the last day.

1217
01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,040
Speaker 2: Having for ten days, one of the one of the

1218
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 2: boys that's seen us when we landed today saw that

1219
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 2: other that other moose had. Oh that's what they look like.

1220
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 2: They've been out right ten days not even seen a moose. Yeah.

1221
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyway, so day five comes, we go to our spot.

1222
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 3: We it's like you you feel like it's gonna happen,

1223
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 3: but you never feel like it's gonna happen today. Yeah,

1224
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 3: you know, you're like, I know, I just feel like

1225
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 3: we're gonna kill a moose. We're doing the right stuff,

1226
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 3: but it probably won't happen today. That's the way I

1227
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:06,959
Speaker 3: always feel.

1228
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 2: It's hard to happen, it's hard to picture it happening. Yeah. Yeah,

1229
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 2: But we did see a cow in that same zone

1230
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 2: that we had seen that bull on day two, which

1231
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 2: was yeah.

1232
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had a cow in our in our in

1233
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 3: our saddle that was kind of in our zone. You know,

1234
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,120
Speaker 3: within eight hundred yards of us, saw a cow and

1235
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 3: and again the moose. Shrut's picking up, and we we

1236
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 3: know that's happening, not because of what we're seeing, but

1237
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,880
Speaker 3: just because we know it is happening. And about ten o'clock,

1238
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 3: day five, Seth looks in a direction that we weren't

1239
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 3: focused on a lot of attention. Well, he moved.

1240
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 2: Mm.

1241
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 3: He had been glassing for four days. From one spot.

1242
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 3: He moved like six feet.

1243
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 1: He moved down slope to a spot he'd never before

1244
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: sat in.

1245
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 3: Wow.

1246
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, had a feeling.

1247
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 3: He moved down slope ever so slightly. And the minute

1248
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 3: he got there, that's say to him, seeing a move

1249
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,240
Speaker 3: he said, he said, I got a bull and the

1250
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 3: spruce and this bull was would we say it was

1251
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,520
Speaker 3: a mile away? At least I think it was a mile.

1252
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 3: I'll tell you how far it was away it was.

1253
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 3: It was, it was close to a mile. Maybe I

1254
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:21,600
Speaker 3: would have said three quarters.

1255
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 2: Of it was.

1256
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 3: Okay, this is like ten o'clock, right ten o'clock in

1257
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 3: the morning. And what we learned is on this landscape

1258
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 3: there's let's just say there's three things going on. Tundra, willows,

1259
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 3: and spruce, that's all there is, and that's part of Alaska,

1260
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:40,120
Speaker 3: and we man the bulls just stick.

1261
01:08:40,280 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 4: It's like a willow aspen birch mix.

1262
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're right, aspen birch.

1263
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1264
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 3: It all looks very similar, assiduous hardwood.

1265
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 4: It's brushy, yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

1266
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 3: And there's small The least of those is the spruce.

1267
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 3: Where we're at, there's a little drawls of spruce. And

1268
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:04,720
Speaker 3: anyway Seth sees a bull sees satellite paddles. And what

1269
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 3: you're looking for when you're glassing for these moose is

1270
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 3: not you're not looking for moose. You're looking for paddles.

1271
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're white, big white.

1272
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 3: Big white paddles out but it takes you a while

1273
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,519
Speaker 3: to understand the scale of what one looks like. The

1274
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 3: first one you see every year, you're like, oh, oh,

1275
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 3: that's what they look like from a mile and a half.

1276
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 3: And they're always smaller than you think. But when I

1277
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 3: see the one, when I saw the ones you found Seth,

1278
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 3: five miles away, they were bigger than I thought they

1279
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 3: would be.

1280
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 2: I thought the same.

1281
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 3: But when the bull was in our saddle six hundred

1282
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 3: yards away, he was way smaller than I thought. He

1283
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 3: would be. It's like this game of scale, like trying

1284
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 3: to figure out what they look like. So he sees one.

1285
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:55,799
Speaker 3: We rip a cow call and man, he slams our direction.

1286
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 3: We know he hears this. He locks in on us.

1287
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 3: Now all four of us looking trying to find the bull,

1288
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 3: and we're like, oh, we see him.

1289
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 2: There he is.

1290
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 3: He's looking at us, and then directly we see him

1291
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 3: moving our way. And that's always a good sign when

1292
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 3: you get a quick response. He just kind of moving

1293
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 3: our direction. But we're not too fired up. He comes

1294
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 3: around the point of this kind of on the spine

1295
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:17,599
Speaker 3: of this little ridge.

1296
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: It's a mile away mile sorry mile, Yeah, nevermind, I

1297
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: can't tell.

1298
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 2: Okay, in and out with the vegetation.

1299
01:10:25,479 --> 01:10:27,559
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you can't see him the whole you can't

1300
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 3: see him. So so but he but he's coming our

1301
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 3: We see him like fifty yards from where he was,

1302
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 3: and he's coming our way, and we get excited hit

1303
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:38,559
Speaker 3: him again with a call. And you're always trying to

1304
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 3: understand how much calling do we need because we felt

1305
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 3: like we might have overcalled the bull that was real

1306
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:46,600
Speaker 3: close to us the other day, and so you're like, what,

1307
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 3: what does this bull want.

1308
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 4: To hear, you're like feeling him out.

1309
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 3: And so we noticed that every time that I called,

1310
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 3: he would start moving before the he got to the

1311
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 3: point where he would stop. I would call, he would

1312
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,720
Speaker 3: start moving towards me before I even finished the call. Yep,

1313
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 3: And that tells you he likes it. And so we

1314
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 3: called a lot and just kind of trying to guide

1315
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,759
Speaker 3: him in. And then he got into the thick aspen

1316
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:18,000
Speaker 3: willow brush and we could just see bits and pieces

1317
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 3: of him, and the sequence from him coming to the

1318
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 3: spruce to coming within three hundred yards was probably I

1319
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 3: would say a forty minute ordeal thirty thirty plus, and

1320
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 3: were seeing bits and pieces of him. And at first,

1321
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 3: Steve Vnellas, I remember you said you didn't get the

1322
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 3: vibe that he was a real big bull. I said,

1323
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:47,759
Speaker 3: he's not a seventy incher. Okay, okay, we can review

1324
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 3: the footage. I just remember, this isn't this isn't bad.

1325
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,639
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, this is what you're going through. I'm

1326
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 3: trying to describe when you first see it.

1327
01:11:55,400 --> 01:12:01,520
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you why. Okay, I was doing Okay,

1328
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 1: here's where I screwed up. Early on, I was doing

1329
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:11,840
Speaker 1: a comparison of looking at the fronts and the paddles. Mmm,

1330
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: that'll get that'll get you on this And when you

1331
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: see this particular animal, you will understand why.

1332
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 3: Because you're like, well, what.

1333
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: Why is his why why is he why does that

1334
01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:30,760
Speaker 1: at his fronts? Yeah, which led me to have just

1335
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 1: it just threw it was throwing me off. Then later

1336
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 1: I was starting to get auch. Once I saw the

1337
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 1: extent of it, I was starting to get a much

1338
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 1: different vibe. But early on I was just I wasn't like,

1339
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 1: it didn't look like sheets. It didn't look like half

1340
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: sheets supply would come in.

1341
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:50,120
Speaker 3: Through the woods. Yeah. So when need to wrapt this

1342
01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 3: up in five minutes, don't don't don't spoil the end.

1343
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 3: So the bulls coming in were we're trying to we

1344
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 3: know it's a shooter. It just looks like from the

1345
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:07,719
Speaker 3: from the man I've learned with moose, when I see paddles,

1346
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 3: no matter what distance, I'm like, it's a monster. I'm

1347
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:17,200
Speaker 3: just just like yeah. But I when the first second

1348
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 3: I saw this moose, all that registered on my mind

1349
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 3: was I was like, golly, that's a lot of paddle.

1350
01:13:23,560 --> 01:13:26,639
Speaker 3: It just looked it was just the volume of paddle

1351
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:29,759
Speaker 3: was big, and man, the closer he got, the bigger

1352
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 3: he got, and pretty soon we're getting we're all getting

1353
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 3: really good looks at him, and and he's just big,

1354
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 3: huge fronts and you're you're looking for brow times on

1355
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 3: these bulls, and you know you're you're happy if you

1356
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 3: see one with four brow tons on each side. Bulls

1357
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 3: got ten brow times on both sides. Just super Nova,

1358
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 3: I think that's its name. And loving your call, yeah, yeah,

1359
01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 3: And we're we're constantly trying to decide how much to call.

1360
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 3: Every time we call. He's moving, so we keep giving

1361
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 3: him what he wants, and he's not coming directly to us.

1362
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 3: He's swinging around trying to get down win, which is

1363
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 3: what they typically do. And but he I mean, we

1364
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 3: got him because he's got a cross through a man.

1365
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 1: I like everything I'm here, and I like everything I'm hearing,

1366
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,040
Speaker 1: but I just like to get a little sniff before

1367
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 1: I just I don't want to go barging there without

1368
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,920
Speaker 1: a little sniff yep, Like I want to get a

1369
01:14:21,960 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 1: lay of the lane, like who's.

1370
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 3: Up there or what's going on? Is it a bull?

1371
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 2: Is it?

1372
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:35,679
Speaker 3: Yeah? Sniff sniff's yeah. So but we got to wrap

1373
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,639
Speaker 3: this up quick. He doesn't desperately want to get down win,

1374
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:41,120
Speaker 3: but he wants to get down with Yeah, and we

1375
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 3: feel like every time we call it, he's just pulling

1376
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:45,519
Speaker 3: a little bit tighter to us. I don't know if

1377
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 3: that was true.

1378
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.

1379
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 3: But we were calling a lot and you'll see this

1380
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 3: on the one day this will come out and you'll

1381
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 3: get to watch it. And man, I mean it was

1382
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 3: that forty minute sequence was as good of a hunt

1383
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 3: as there is on planet Earth. I mean, for real,

1384
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 3: just watching him come, the excitement of trying to gauge

1385
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 3: how big he is. Is he gonna come?

1386
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 2: Is he not?

1387
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 3: We've been here, we worked so hard to get here.

1388
01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 3: This is a crazy place. We're cold, we're tired where

1389
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 3: and here he comes and then he's big, and I mean,

1390
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 3: it's just it was. It was exciting. One of the

1391
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 3: last things we witnessed him do.

1392
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:33,680
Speaker 1: As he went to thrash in a tree and for

1393
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 1: some reason stuck his horn down in the ground like

1394
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,599
Speaker 1: a spade shovel and.

1395
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 3: Flaw threw up a cloud of soil.

1396
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 2: And kept walking. Yeah, like they ain't nothing.

1397
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 3: Is he still out there? Is he still out there?

1398
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 3: Or is he in the van? Stay tuned? Is that

1399
01:16:05,840 --> 01:16:07,880
Speaker 3: the way we're gonna leave it. We're gonna leave it

1400
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 3: like this.

1401
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, was that a miser hit or you

1402
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 1: don't know?

1403
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 2: And one more yeah, stay tuned. Nice ri On.

1404
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:53,480
Speaker 3: Seal Bran shine like silver in the sun, right right

1405
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 3: on alone.

1406
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:56,920
Speaker 2: Sweet.

1407
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 5: We don't beat this day horse to death, so taking

1408
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 5: a new one and ride away. We're done beat this

1409
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 5: damn horse today, So take a new one and ride on.

1410
01:17:25,320 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 5: H