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Speaker 1: Arizona falls thirty one twenty four to the Ravens Sunday

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Speaker 1: at home from State Farm Stadium. We're gonna break down

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Speaker 1: that whole game and so much more here on Morning Scramble.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us live alongside Jody

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Speaker 1: Jackson and Zach Gershman. I'm Danny Surag this Morning Scramble

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Speaker 1: presented by Risen from the.

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Speaker 2: Seat Geek Studios.

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Speaker 1: The Gardinals have the worst record in the league now

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Speaker 1: at one in seven. Jody, this does not look like

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Speaker 1: a one in seventeen, though it.

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Speaker 2: Doesn't with the way that they came out in this game,

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Speaker 2: especially the first drive. I mean, I know that they

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Speaker 2: had a few penalties that aided them in that drive,

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Speaker 2: but you know, this is a team that has come

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Speaker 2: out time and time again guys at the start of

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Speaker 2: games and had success, and you see them fighting throughout

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Speaker 2: the entire game. I thought the defense had a terrific

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Speaker 2: performance today or yesterday, I should say, and again, it's

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Speaker 2: just some mistakes and some ineptitude on offense, which continues

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Speaker 2: to be a theme, Danny, and I think, again, when

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Speaker 2: you're not getting elite quarterback play, when you're not getting

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Speaker 2: explosive plays, it is hard to win in this league,

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Speaker 2: and so you're right. I feel for this group though,

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Speaker 2: because you see the fight, you see a lot of

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Speaker 2: good things happening. You see some strong performances from a

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Speaker 2: guy like Trey McBride on defense. We saw a number

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Speaker 2: of them, and they're not getting rewarded. And so you

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Speaker 2: feel for this Cardinals group. They've just got to keep going,

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Speaker 2: keep pressing along.

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Speaker 3: Bill Parcells used to say that you are where your

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Speaker 3: record says you are. In a few weeks ago in

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Speaker 3: Azycardinals dot Com, I wrote an article about that and

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Speaker 3: everyone said, yeah, we are a one four, one in

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Speaker 3: five team, whatever it was at that point. Now you're

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Speaker 3: one and seven. And while this team does not play

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Speaker 3: like a one to seven team, as Danny.

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Speaker 4: Alluded to, this is still a union.

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Speaker 3: This is still a team that is struggling to turn

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Speaker 3: those little details and fix them and turn them into wins.

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Speaker 3: And that's what they need to do in order to

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Speaker 3: add wins to the win column. Defin, no one enjoys

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Speaker 3: losing in the league. You get paid to win football games.

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Speaker 3: That's the theme week in and week out. You get

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Speaker 3: paid to win the games. That's what gets the fans

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Speaker 3: coming over and unfortunately at one in seven you're struggling.

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Speaker 4: To do that. But it's those details.

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Speaker 1: It was a bright spot to have a fast start

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Speaker 1: by the Cardinals offense. Scored on their opening drive seventy

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Speaker 1: five yards down the field wide receiver Hollywood Brown drew

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Speaker 2: Following that, however.

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Speaker 1: There were struggles in the passing game, just ten completions

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's interesting because again, Danny, you mentioned that

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Speaker 2: was huge. Just taking that shot into the end zone

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Speaker 2: to Brown caused the PI and you'd love to see that,

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Speaker 2: you know, because you're right, Marquise Brown has been playing

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Speaker 2: well all year. He has been getting open and Josh Dobbs,

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Speaker 2: you know, put that ball on him. It was a

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Speaker 2: he's got to be in the vicinity with some of

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Speaker 2: these throws. That's been the problem that we've seen, and

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Speaker 2: pretty clear that was a problem in this game. And

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Speaker 2: then the third quarter was a black hole. The third

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Speaker 2: I think by that time again, the score doesn't really

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Speaker 1: It's hard to win games the NFL when you're not

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Speaker 3: they understand and Drew Petsing offense and what that looks like,

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Speaker 3: what a Jonathan Gannon coaching staff looks like, and teams

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Speaker 2: And I think that we saw that's why they're having

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Speaker 2: find a way to utilize that talent because otherwise, you know,

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Speaker 3: The biggest problem with it is that the big time

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Speaker 3: I mean, twenty two was the longest for Trey McBride,

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Speaker 3: the results have worked out. Josh Dobbs said postgame that

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Speaker 4: We got to throw this with his way.

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Speaker 3: I mean he only had the four targeting the four receptions.

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Speaker 3: He's a big body, he could jump up, he can

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's also I mean the run game

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Speaker 1: The connection between Hollywood Brown and Dobbs has been out

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean that play was terrific. We have, you know,

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Speaker 1: Offensive lineman pushing him into the end zone.

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Speaker 4: Yes, but that's why postgame I asked Paris Johnson.

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Speaker 3: I said, Paris, you were celebrating as if you scored

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Speaker 4: He tried jumping over.

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Speaker 4: They're there for each other, they have each other's back.

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Speaker 1: That's a that's a great point of having that effort,

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Speaker 4: That's a really crazy it is.

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Speaker 3: That would be and that's why he was so mad,

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Speaker 3: That one out of ten times that he alluded to

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Speaker 1: Arizona has been using a running backs by committee approach

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Speaker 2: get back. And you know, again, this the one thing

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Speaker 2: put up a number. Now, I know numbers don't always

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Speaker 2: We see Josh Shobbs again that first drive. He was

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Speaker 2: him up. We didn't see it continue so much for jobs,

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Speaker 2: he opened the show, Danny, it's one and seven, but

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Speaker 2: continue to do some of these things. That the process

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Speaker 2: is the right process, the balance, the O line creating

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Speaker 1: And they're thirty one twenty four loss to the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals defense did enough to win this game, gave

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Speaker 1: just two hundred and sixty eight total yards. They're best

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Speaker 1: since Week one. In Washington, quarterback Lamar Jackson was limited

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Speaker 1: Jackson entered Sunday's game with almost four hundred rushing yards.

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Speaker 2: No, I think, you know, I was certainly surprised that

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Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson then is bottled up, he can't run. So

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Speaker 2: that was a victory for the defense. And again, I

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Speaker 4: Definitely is one of them.

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Speaker 3: And Buddha Baker said that you take your eyes off Lamar,

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Speaker 4: He has that ability to run the rock.

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Speaker 3: But they're gonna be looking for the past first, and

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Speaker 3: the defense has done a great job.

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Speaker 4: I think a big part of it is because you

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Speaker 3: That's why I think allowed the coaching staff to be

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Speaker 2: Agains.

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Speaker 3: It also allows your cornerbacks and your linebackers to I

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Speaker 2: O'dill Beuckham Junior felt his presence there.

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Speaker 1: Bright Spot rookie Dante Stills on the defensive line, He's

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Speaker 4: Multi sacked, multi sacking, Yeah, multi sack Yeah.

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Speaker 4: About him and it was his family.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm not saying coincidence, no, but I think

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Speaker 1: Great to see this rookie class come out and perform

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Speaker 3: It was an interception. Definitely was not a pretty one either,

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Speaker 3: at that point, it felt like when the Cardinals were

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Speaker 3: down fourteen to seven. It was still a competitive game.

439
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Speaker 3: They were still in it. They were not giving up.

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Speaker 3: Once that interception happened, Ginomi Gino's stone excuse me, picks

441
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Speaker 3: it off and they score and they go up twenty

442
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Speaker 3: one seven, that's when it starts to feel more of

443
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Speaker 3: like an uphill climb and uphill battle as opposed to

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Speaker 3: a close game.

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Speaker 2: A momentum killer.

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Speaker 3: Definitely is because you know that this team, they've been

447
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Speaker 3: driving down the field, they have not been able to

448
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Speaker 3: put points on the scoreboard. And it was punting on

449
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Speaker 3: both sides. Well, Mark Jackson said, Baltimore punted way too

450
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Speaker 3: many times. I think our time, I think the Cardinals

451
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Speaker 3: team would say that they punted way too many times in.

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Speaker 2: This Yeah, it was certainly a backbreaker, and you know, again,

453
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Speaker 2: you want to get a chunk of yardage there, you

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Speaker 2: want to go downfield, but like for you just can't

455
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Speaker 2: have that happen back on your own twenty four. It's

456
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Speaker 2: basically like it almost felt like a pick six because

457
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Speaker 2: then next thing you know, they're in. So just another

458
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Speaker 2: unfortunate interception.

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Speaker 3: And I think a big part of it too, is

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Speaker 3: we spoke about in the beginning Josh Dobbs, the first

461
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Speaker 3: few weeks of the season was flawless when it came

462
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Speaker 3: to the turnover battle, and now it's just not been

463
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Speaker 3: there for him and teams have started to scout him

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Speaker 3: a lot more. It's what's frustrating because it's one of

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Speaker 3: those plays. It's one of those momentum killers where you

466
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Speaker 3: throw your head back and you're saying, oh, you want

467
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Speaker 3: every single drive. You hope that this is going to

468
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Speaker 3: be the drive that turns around. And when your first

469
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Speaker 3: play of the drive isn't interception in your own territory,

470
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Speaker 3: it's never gonna have the momentum boost, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: Can't force the ball, have to be smart with the ball.

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Speaker 1: Let's pull out the whiteboard for songboard, shall we? Is

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Speaker 1: anybody else going a little spooky the day before Halloween

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Speaker 1: with their song?

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Speaker 2: You know what I didn't? I looked in I just

476
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Speaker 2: couldn't think of anything that's a good idea.

477
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Speaker 4: Now now you know what Danny's doing.

478
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Speaker 2: It's about time of year where I get to seat

479
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Speaker 2: all my kids. Candy.

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Speaker 1: It's too it's not gonna fit well.

481
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Speaker 2: Now I can't wait the suspense of the Halloween songbird

482
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Speaker 2: from Danny and the drawing.

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Speaker 4: Ooh, the drawing returns.

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Speaker 1: I do love Halloween, though, Zach, you can go first, Yes,

485
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Speaker 1: I'll go first.

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Speaker 4: Normally I have themes.

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Speaker 3: Who would have thought this is the week I did

488
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Speaker 3: not have a theme. I just went with the same

489
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Speaker 3: energy by the Kable Roy. First of all, I saw

490
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Speaker 3: him in concert. It was incredible back at school.

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Speaker 4: But no, I think same energy is a key component

492
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Speaker 4: of what's been going on.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about how this team has so much fight,

494
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Speaker 3: so much resilience for it to be same energy. They

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Speaker 3: have not given up in the slightest of bits all

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Speaker 3: season long. It's a one in seven team that does

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Speaker 3: not play as a one and seven team, as we

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Speaker 3: talked about.

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Speaker 4: But it's the.

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Speaker 3: Same mistakes, it's the same issues that the same minor

501
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Speaker 3: details that continue to hurt them. And when all was

502
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Speaker 3: said and done, it's obviously not something that you would

503
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Speaker 3: hope for. But the energy, I'm okay with it being

504
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Speaker 3: there because they have been playing quite well so far.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. I just came to my mind was

506
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Speaker 2: keep your head up? Is that a song? It is

507
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Speaker 2: an I wish I could remember the general's name that

508
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Speaker 2: sings it. I can't.

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Speaker 1: I'm challenge saying encouraging word up.

510
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, and we will know singing was part of

511
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Speaker 2: the show, or I wouldn't.

512
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Speaker 4: Have been hired to do duties as a.

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Speaker 2: Sign, you gotta keep your head up. Oh it's catchy,

514
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Speaker 2: and I'm like, this is a great good morning, good

515
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 2: Monday morning song, even though we're one and seven, but.

516
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Speaker 4: It was.

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Speaker 2: It's catchy, it's fun, you know. I think it's from

518
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Speaker 2: about ten or twelve years ago, at least that's what

519
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Speaker 2: it said on YouTube.

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Speaker 4: I've heard it on the radio before.

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's a little diddy, you know, a little poppy.

522
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Speaker 2: That's what I'm going with. Not Halloween, but I can't

523
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Speaker 2: wait for Danny's Now.

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Speaker 1: I went with Superstition by Stevie Wonder with my cute

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Speaker 1: Little Ghosts.

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Speaker 2: Oh it is cute looking scary like pac Man.

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Speaker 1: It is like, but you can tell what it is,

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Speaker 1: which it's all going for at this point. I went

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Speaker 1: with Superstition because the Cardinals are seven and three in

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Speaker 1: their last ten matchups against the Cleveland Browns. So whatever

531
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Speaker 1: they've been doing, keep doing it, because at this point

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Speaker 1: you need to start stacking the wins. The team is

533
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Speaker 1: putting everything in throughout the week. They are keeping themselves

534
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Speaker 1: in the game. You just have to start finishing. You

535
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Speaker 1: have to start getting those wins. Even though the morale

536
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Speaker 1: has been high and the energy has been there, at

537
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Speaker 1: some point, you need to start stacking wins for this

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Speaker 1: team to truly stay together and keep believing.

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Speaker 3: Superstition, that's a that's a good term for this one,

540
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Speaker 3: because whatever I've been working in the past for them

541
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Speaker 3: to have that record over Cleveland definitely got to go.

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Speaker 4: Into it into this coming game.

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Speaker 2: And I think it was two years ago, you know,

544
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Speaker 2: decimated by some COVID situations, and they still went up there,

545
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Speaker 2: and I remember, you know that that news coming down

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Speaker 2: before the team was headed out and you're thinking how

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Speaker 2: they gonna pull this off?

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: So it's been it's been interesting and you never know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look this team again, they have managed to

551
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Speaker 2: always come out even despite the losing and give their

552
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Speaker 2: best effort. So I don't even question that. I feel

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Speaker 2: like we'll see that. It's just can they limit the mistakes.

554
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 2: Can they connect on some big plays against this Browns defense? Again,

555
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 2: when you they might not be able to grind against

556
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Speaker 2: this defense, but maybe if they can hit some big plays,

557
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 2: you never know.

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Speaker 3: There's one key component in this one. Josh Dobbs going

559
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Speaker 3: against his former team. That's a very big thing. The

560
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Speaker 3: team that did not give him a shot to start,

561
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Speaker 3: they traded him away to the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 4: Now he gets to go back. He's familiar with.

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Speaker 3: The weapons that they have on the defensive side of

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Speaker 3: the ball. It's no secret with Miles Garrett's going to

565
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Speaker 3: bring to the table. He's a stud back there. So

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Speaker 3: knowing that Josh Dobbs, I feel like Josh Dobbs is

567
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Speaker 3: one of those players that plays with the chip on

568
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Speaker 3: his shoulder as well. Similarly as I spoken about Trey McBride,

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Speaker 3: he's one of those guys that does that. I think

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Speaker 3: with how smart Josh Dobbs is, he knows the opportunity

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Speaker 3: that's in front of him, and he knows what he's

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Speaker 3: able to show to his former team.

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Speaker 2: What if Josh Dobbs for Halloween could dress up like

574
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Speaker 2: Josh Dobbs from the first few weeks. Maybe golf job. No,

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Speaker 2: I mean, Josh, you know you gotta love Josh Dobbs.

576
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Speaker 2: I remember when he was in Cleveland. Remember he did

577
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Speaker 2: the TikTok from his apartment Like I'm packing my stuff up.

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Speaker 2: What a what a wonderful young man Josh Dobbs is

579
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Speaker 2: and we've gotten to know him. I love that the

580
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Speaker 2: NFL has gotten to know him. But just maybe, yeah,

581
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Speaker 2: hopefully getting back to some that I know. Like you mentioned,

582
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Speaker 2: You're exactly right. The league has scouted him. They're seeing things,

583
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Speaker 2: but we'll see. We'll see what happens this week.

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Speaker 3: Then again, there's no better team that knows Josh Dobbs

585
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Speaker 3: better than Cleveland Trip.

586
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Speaker 4: That's a key point.

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Speaker 1: It will likely be Josh Dobbs under center. Kyler Murray

588
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 1: is practicing, However, he has not been activated off the

589
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Speaker 1: pup list. In order for Kyler Murray to be active

590
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Speaker 1: on a game day, he has to be put on

591
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Speaker 1: the roster, which in turn can have him active on

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Speaker 1: game days. November eighth is the deadline for the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: to do something that twenty one day window of either

594
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Speaker 1: placing him on POP for the rest of the year

595
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Speaker 1: or putting him on that roster. Is there a chance

596
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Speaker 1: we see k one back on the field, Jody.

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Speaker 2: I think at this point I'm gonna stick with Atlanta's

598
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Speaker 2: where I see him coming back. But things were trending

599
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Speaker 2: this week and I thought Damn was right. I really

600
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Speaker 2: thought I was going to be right with Home. Yeah,

601
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Speaker 2: I thought it was trending that way, and then and

602
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Speaker 2: then Friday, and then you get word he's out.

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Speaker 1: So if I'm going to take the risk of saying

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Speaker 1: that he was going to be ready, I really thought

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Speaker 1: he was going to play Sunday against Ravens. I have

606
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Speaker 1: to hold myself accountable and admit that I was wrong,

607
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Speaker 1: But I also agree. I think at this point you're

608
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Speaker 1: going to see him at home, probably against It.

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Speaker 2: Seems like that's that nice landing spot and you know,

610
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Speaker 2: and then he can go from there.

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Speaker 3: I do not like Honestly, as the week was going on,

612
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Speaker 3: I'm like, Danny's really going.

613
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Speaker 4: To I know we're going in trouble forever.

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Speaker 5: Everybody in this facility was about a year about it,

615
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Speaker 5: and from what I've learned in my short time here,

616
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Speaker 5: Danny has a way of manifesting things. So when this

617
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Speaker 5: was going on, I was like, Oh my god, Kyler

618
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Speaker 5: Murray's about to play against the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 4: I do believe that it's.

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Speaker 3: Going to be against the Atlanta Falcons, But the storyline

621
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Speaker 3: this week was definitely an interesting one going into Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: Seems like John again tried to dispel whatever rumors were

623
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Speaker 3: going around because he said Joshua Dobbs is going to

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Speaker 3: be his starter in what ways?

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Speaker 4: I'm sure we're.

626
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Speaker 3: Going to find out as this week goes on, as

627
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Speaker 3: he's as he does his very weekly media appearances.

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Speaker 4: But there is a chance.

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Speaker 1: There's always a chance if I've got the manifestation powers,

630
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Speaker 1: Am I manifesting in Diamondbacks or Rangers World Series win?

631
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Speaker 1: Being from Dallas?

632
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Speaker 2: Well, that is, I've had a lot of fun for the.

633
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Speaker 1: Diamondbacks since I've moved out here.

634
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 4: As a Philly I manifestation meant nothing.

635
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Speaker 2: You were part of the home crowd against a lot

636
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Speaker 2: of fun. So I'm owner. I'll say, go d back

637
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 2: here about that? Is that enough of an answer? World Series?

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Speaker 4: Hope there's a parade here.

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Speaker 3: I mean, listen, I'm not fully embracing the chaos, but

640
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 3: like I'm slightly embracing the chaos, I can't cheat on

641
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: my team.

642
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Speaker 4: You know, still go for it.

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Speaker 2: I know you're still hurting.

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Speaker 4: I'm still heard.

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00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: It's always next year.

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Speaker 1: The Cardinals travel to Cleveland next week to face the

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Speaker 1: ground with a one in seven record plenty to turn

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Speaker 1: around this week. We'll have coverage all week long on

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Speaker 1: Azycardinals dot Com leading up to that matchup. Thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us all morning scramble for Jody Jackson

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Speaker 1: and Zach Gershman, I'm Danny's Reck.

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Speaker 2: We'll catchy' all right here next week. Happy Halloween,