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Speaker 1: I don't I don't disagree, but I think Donathan don't.

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Speaker 1: my voice is going. It's my Duso hair hosting for

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Speaker 1: Fred and I don't know what Tuesday show did to me,

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Speaker 1: to carry the slack today. It's another what do we

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Speaker 4: The kid kid uncle deson your voice?

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Speaker 6: You got a squeaky toy and they have my lawn.

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Speaker 6: My NPR.

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Speaker 1: Anybody actually still like NPR?

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Speaker 6: My grandparents.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know where it is on the dial anymore.

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Speaker 9: It's pretty good. What the podcast?

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Speaker 9: Tell you guys about it. Yes, yeah, Jil Simmons episode

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Speaker 1: To, not yet. That was Alex maybe on the plane.

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Speaker 1: You guys know, Evan, you just heard from him two hours.

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Speaker 1: Fred's thing. It's like they'll get in arguments and I'll

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Speaker 5: I talked about it on Catch twenty two my flip

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Speaker 5: And I so like, I walk up to Dante High

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Speaker 1: I didn't know what that happy birthday to him, but

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Speaker 10: What's been tap dancing in my brain since we left

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Speaker 1: And it's like when he called plays in the World

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Speaker 1: World League and no one cares. Nobody meant nobody cares.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I just I thought that those guys

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Speaker 5: that you're running.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, there's so many factors with this team

441
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Speaker 1: right now, of like the number of you know, I mean,

442
00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,000
Speaker 1: it's like I'm talking to Bobic now the tight ends coach,

443
00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,080
Speaker 1: like you got no tight ends on the roster, Like

444
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Speaker 1: what's he doing?

445
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Speaker 10: You do?

446
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Speaker 1: I mean even the outside line the outside linebackers coach Wilkins. Wilkins,

447
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Speaker 1: Drew Wilkins, who another really night like he just kind

448
00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,359
Speaker 1: of came up to me. But another one where I'm like,

449
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Speaker 1: you kind of got you running? That's it? Like right

450
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Speaker 1: now he's got he doesn't have much to work with.

451
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Speaker 1: So you know, how does all married together with the

452
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Speaker 1: guys you retain, the guys you pursue in free agency,

453
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Speaker 1: how you construct your offense, what you expect to get

454
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Speaker 1: in the draft, how you kind of balance And we

455
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Speaker 1: touched on on Tuesday a little bit, maybe focusing a

456
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Speaker 1: little bit more on defense. But I don't know, based

457
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Speaker 1: on what you've heard over the last couple of days,

458
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Speaker 1: do you have any kind of different views of the

459
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Speaker 1: current free agents, potential external free agents, and maybe even

460
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Speaker 1: the draft. Have your views changed it all from what

461
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Speaker 1: you've heard over the last couple of days from the coach.

462
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Speaker 5: I always love listening to coaches talk about what they

463
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Speaker 5: look for in quarterbacks and then talking to personnel people

464
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Speaker 5: and listening to what they look for in quarterbacks because

465
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Speaker 5: it's often very different. Like a personnel guy is just

466
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Speaker 5: looking for talent, arm talent, mobility, you know those types

467
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Speaker 5: of things, like just give me the most talented guy,

468
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Speaker 5: whereas like Van Pelt is out there talking about leadership

469
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Speaker 5: and mechanics and fundamentals and toughness and like accuracy, and

470
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Speaker 5: it's like, okay, well, how do we kind of come together?

471
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Speaker 5: And I brought it up early or it's kind of

472
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Speaker 5: like the Trey Lance mac Jones argument that we were

473
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Speaker 5: having with the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: It's the same thing.

475
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Speaker 5: I think the personnel people probably were infatuated with Trey

476
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Speaker 5: Lance's tools. Kyle Shanahan was probably fascinated by mac Jones's

477
00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,040
Speaker 5: pro ready brain and all that kind of stuff. And

478
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Speaker 5: I think a lot of coaches look at it and

479
00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,200
Speaker 5: they just don't want to get fired. So if you

480
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Speaker 5: give me a guy, that's a project that I'm gonna

481
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Speaker 5: have to develop over two three years are you going

482
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Speaker 5: to give me the runway to develop the guy or

483
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Speaker 5: if we're not winning in two years, I'm just gonna

484
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Speaker 5: get canned because I couldn't figure out Drake May.

485
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Speaker 1: You know, like that sort of thing.

486
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Speaker 5: So look at you know, I think coaches want experience,

487
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Speaker 5: they want leadership, they want pro ready like that. That's

488
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Speaker 5: the things that they look for.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Drake May, I got to actually got a

490
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Speaker 1: text from from mister Paul Perrillo and he is texting

491
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Speaker 1: me live from UNC. Wow, he's got He's got a

492
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Speaker 1: whole Drake May picture. He's got the field. So Paul's

493
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Speaker 1: down there. I think he's doing a little advanced scout,

494
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Speaker 1: you know, he's beating the bushes talking to the coaches.

495
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Speaker 1: That's all right, like stay in your lane, stay in

496
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Speaker 1: your lane. We'll talk about man burning your time outs

497
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Speaker 1: at the wrong time. And of course we we didn't.

498
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Speaker 1: We didn't officially hear from Fred, but we saw just

499
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Speaker 1: a picture from some tropical parts unknown tropics unknown, Fred

500
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Speaker 1: uh with his little Fred toes that the boomerang.

501
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Speaker 6: And I wonder if on Twitter.

502
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Speaker 7: I wonder if on Twitter, but I wonder if he noticed,

503
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 7: like his toes are in the bottom of it for all,

504
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 7: like the slack he gets about.

505
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Speaker 1: Feet and stuff like wiggle him, you know, toes in

506
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Speaker 1: the water. They're having a great time and uh and

507
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Speaker 1: don't worry. Hopefully they they'll well, they'll be back next week.

508
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Speaker 6: We won't like that. I'm not giving this up.

509
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Speaker 1: Right, that's what.

510
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Speaker 6: That's it.

511
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Speaker 1: Wait till talk on. Lauria Milloy has something to say

512
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Speaker 1: about it. But yeah, those guys will be here kind

513
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Speaker 1: of holding down the fort and we'll be calling in

514
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Speaker 1: next week. I think we're gonna try to do some

515
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Speaker 1: live feed ins and that that kind of stuff. So

516
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Speaker 1: I'm sure they're excited to get back and get back

517
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Speaker 1: all into this. So uh yeah, we're gonna plow through

518
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Speaker 1: the show. You guys have some what what you had

519
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 1: some blind love or what was your your show? You

520
00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 1: know what it's you know what it's called. Watched the

521
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Speaker 1: first season. I didn't see the rest of it whatever.

522
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Speaker 6: That's a cut from season one. I haven't watched the

523
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Speaker 6: current season.

524
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Speaker 1: There's a former page we're talking about that. This is

525
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Speaker 1: a former patient and it's kind of annoying. Really did

526
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Speaker 1: she talk a lot about the Patriot No, but her.

527
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Speaker 5: Her fiance does her fiance is mentioned at least three

528
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Speaker 5: times that she was a Patriots cheerleader one.

529
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Speaker 9: Team in So Long too. I was looking at her Instagram.

530
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Speaker 9: I think she was a Charlotte Hornet stancer too.

531
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Speaker 5: But yeah, she said that she won two super like

532
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Speaker 5: she won they won two super Bowls with her as

533
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Speaker 5: a cheerleader.

534
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Speaker 1: So this was a while ago recently, sound like what

535
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Speaker 1: they said on the show sounds like one super and.

536
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Speaker 5: And he's mentioned it like several times. And then in

537
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Speaker 5: the last episode he started like, so do you know Gronk?

538
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Speaker 1: Do you know so? And so I'm like this dude's.

539
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 5: Literally just interested in this girl because she's an NFL

540
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Speaker 5: cheer Like that's literally it like she got a shelf.

541
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Speaker 1: It wasn't. Well, Camille is the most famous one though,

542
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Speaker 1: Gronk's girlfriend. But all right, well check that out.

543
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Speaker 4: I Love Is Blonde is a great show.

544
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: So it's still the same format where it's just you

545
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 1: don't you can't meet for like the first month and

546
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Speaker 1: you just have conversation.

547
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Speaker 9: Who is signing up for this?

548
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Speaker 8: They changed the last couple of episodes around they bring

549
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Speaker 8: old people back.

550
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Speaker 6: They didn't do that in the first couple of seasons.

551
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Speaker 4: Yeah, let the drama happen.

552
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Speaker 9: Is their guy named Jeremy. Yes, Jeremy had a fiance

553
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Speaker 9: when he applied for the show. I saw that on.

554
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Speaker 5: So Jeremy's girl is an interesting character and I'm it's

555
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Speaker 5: a ticking time bomb.

556
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Speaker 1: I'm waiting for that one to end.

557
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 9: Isn't he like a sleazy cheater?

558
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Speaker 5: So first of all, we talked about this a little

559
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Speaker 5: bit upstairs, but his girl season told he said like

560
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Speaker 5: something like oh. She said, like, oh, people like compare

561
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Speaker 5: me to like a famouselebrity, Like do you want to

562
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 5: guess who it is? And like he was like guessing

563
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 5: like random people, and she was like, no, it's it's

564
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 5: Megan Fox. You don't tell a dude that's never met

565
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 5: you were seeing you that you look like Megan.

566
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Speaker 1: Nobody looks like Megan Fox. Absolutely nobody not to know

567
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Speaker 1: who Megan Fox was.

568
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Speaker 8: She's like, I've been compared to mgk's fiance.

569
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Speaker 4: I was, what, that girl is a don plus ninety

570
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 4: nine and like you want to say you look like her?

571
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Speaker 10: No?

572
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 9: Absolutely?

573
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Speaker 5: And then and then so when they actually meet, and

574
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Speaker 5: now we're a Love is Blind podcast, all of a sudden,

575
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Speaker 5: when he actually when they actually meet you can see

576
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Speaker 5: the smile just go away from his face and he's.

577
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Speaker 1: Just like, you're not Megan. Fuck, You're not Megan Fox.

578
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 1: Like you can see it in his head that he's

579
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Speaker 1: just like, ah, damn, you send the bar super high

580
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Speaker 1: for yourself, Like that's what I'm compare yourself to any

581
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Speaker 1: celebrity at all. I have an off top of question though,

582
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Speaker 1: if you had to be on one reality show that

583
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Speaker 1: you think you could win or dominate on PU Crew,

584
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Speaker 1: is there there's there isn't a sorry be a competition

585
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Speaker 1: show or just a reality show.

586
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Speaker 10: I think I would go and love his blind for real.

587
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Speaker 4: I think I would do it one dating is.

588
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Speaker 1: A I could kind of see that I.

589
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Speaker 11: Could do it.

590
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Speaker 10: I could do it because I'm going to ask the

591
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Speaker 10: right questions and you have a good judgment of character.

592
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Speaker 10: And I would call someone's bs like so fast, like

593
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 10: it's just that was great, and you'd be.

594
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Speaker 9: Sad because you have a cool robin your crap together.

595
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Speaker 4: I will say my thing like Jessica on this when

596
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 4: she reads Jimmy for Filth, like I was like, you

597
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Speaker 4: know what that is me in a nutshell? And I

598
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Speaker 4: would just like to say, because y'all are always joking me.

599
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Speaker 4: She is a Capricorn ten out of ten, like.

600
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Speaker 1: She went about people right now are like, what the hell?

601
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Speaker 4: I will say though, I will say that I was

602
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Speaker 4: shocked when I heard Evan watch the show because he's

603
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Speaker 4: just all football and all films. To hear that he

604
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Speaker 4: watches trash TV.

605
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Speaker 5: Oh we watch other than sports. All we watch is trash,

606
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 5: all of it below deck, you know. Yeah, we don't

607
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Speaker 5: watch any real TV.

608
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Speaker 4: See.

609
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Speaker 10: That was really shocking for me because it's like, to

610
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 10: hear you only talk about Bruins and Celtics and Patriots.

611
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: To hear, I don't talk about the Red Sox Center now, no,

612
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:11,360
Speaker 1: they're embarrassed.

613
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Speaker 4: I would everything everything.

614
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Speaker 6: But I would love to be on like a Jersey

615
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Speaker 6: Shore type show.

616
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 4: I can see what I would like.

617
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 6: The camera pan to me.

618
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 4: I would love it on the Great British Bake Off.

619
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Speaker 5: Yell at you, I know, Stan, or something going on

620
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 5: a show with money that I can win likes when.

621
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Speaker 9: Like reality TV was really like remember a flavor of love?

622
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 9: Flavor flavor and that that was my gym.

623
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Speaker 4: I could see you one family feud.

624
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd be good at that. Yeah, definitely right. Actually,

625
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 1: before we move on we will. My wife send me

626
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Speaker 1: this clip from Jeopardy where the it's going around social

627
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Speaker 1: media right now. But the topic was football and they

628
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Speaker 1: didn't get a single starting at like two hundred and

629
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Speaker 1: like an alex traa an altru. Obviously back was getting

630
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: very very like agitated, like they're like, if you know

631
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: you don't get the two hundred question, you're not getting.

632
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 6: Like the thousand.

633
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Speaker 5: I would love if there is, Like I think they

634
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 5: used to do sports Jeopardy on like one of the

635
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 5: like you know, sports channels, and that that would be

636
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Speaker 5: Corese Stump.

637
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: My cousin was actually on Stump Stump the Schwab.

638
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 5: I wasn't old enough to be on it yet, but

639
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 5: that was like an old like sports trivia question show

640
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 5: on ESPN.

641
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Speaker 9: I would probably I have like three people I went

642
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Speaker 9: to high school at that win on Jeopardy.

643
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Speaker 1: It's a smart guys, a bunch of smock guys. So many,

644
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: so many people are so mad at us. All right,

645
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the I'll put the fist down. We're

646
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: gonna stop the the reality show. I know, Matt, come on,

647
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: it's the off season. We gott and paul in fred

648
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: arn here. We gotta we gotta have a little we

649
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: gotta spread our wing.

650
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Speaker 6: Your voices dying, right, that voice is dying.

651
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: That's why we're gonna head over to the phones. But

652
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: please give us a call eight five five Pats five hundred,

653
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: shoot us an email, web radio at Patriots dot com.

654
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: And uh, our good friend William and Philim has been

655
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 1: waiting for a while. So hey, William, how's it going?

656
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 6: Man?

657
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 12: Hey, what's going on?

658
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: I'm I feel fine, but my voice is just it's

659
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Speaker 1: failing me right now. But I'll get by.

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Speaker 10: All right.

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Speaker 12: Hello to the ladies.

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Speaker 1: First, Hi, and two questions, ev one everybody else just see.

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Speaker 12: One question is basically, do you know about the wide

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Speaker 12: receiver from U S A name javarm Baker? Yeah, mm hmm, okay,

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Speaker 12: all right, they're saying he's supposed to be the sleeper

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Speaker 12: in the draft.

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Speaker 10: One.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot there's a lot of those guys that

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Speaker 5: you know, this is such a deep wide receiver class

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Speaker 5: that there's gonna be guys in like the fourth, fifth,

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Speaker 5: sixth round that don't get talked about a whole lot

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Speaker 5: in the pre draft process that are going to end

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Speaker 5: up being pretty good NFL players because of how deep

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Speaker 5: it is so guys like Javon Baker. I know the

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Speaker 5: kid at this at the Shrine Bowl had a huge week.

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Speaker 5: I can't remember the name off the top of my head.

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Speaker 5: Jalen Cross, No, what are the kid from Virginia, I

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Speaker 5: can't remember his name, had a good week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that all those players are draftable. The

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Speaker 1: little guy Washington was that? Yeah, MILEK Washington.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that's it. Yeah, he's good, little sucker.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 12: And my last my last question is so much well

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Speaker 12: he is a question. Your last show catches swaying too.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 12: For about twenty minutes, I was sitting here waiting for you.

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Speaker 1: And now I know, I know, I know, we have

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Speaker 1: to talk about the combine.

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Speaker 12: But okayum.

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Speaker 1: Are you kid?

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Speaker 5: I knew you would hang on for to call on

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Speaker 5: filter and we had to talk a little bit of combine.

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Speaker 1: He was saving you for me.

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Speaker 12: Okay, all right, okay, as long as you as long

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Speaker 12: as you see my I'm cool.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good always now we love you.

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Speaker 6: Good.

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Speaker 1: Thanks.

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Speaker 6: So I want to talk about something with the draft,

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Speaker 6: because I always do. We do it, we do our

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Speaker 6: draft podcast. But no, so we were talking football here.

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Speaker 9: What I'm just waiting for a color to the like we.

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Speaker 6: Spend all this time talking about prospects, like you know,

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Speaker 6: we do the podcast and for example, do you ever

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Speaker 6: like go to a Wikipedia page and look the list

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Speaker 6: of players drafted and you spent so much and half

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Speaker 6: these dudes are busts, like and it's just like they

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Speaker 6: were more than half. Like they we talked about Devin Lloyd,

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Speaker 6: he was like an okay player. Like we spent so

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Speaker 6: much time being like, this is the guy that pashould take,

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Speaker 6: and like you you never hear from him again.

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Speaker 1: What's so funny about the draft? I think that's what

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Speaker 1: you love about the draft? And I mean it's I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, we've been doing it for a long time,

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Speaker 1: like I mean, you know we go back to blogging days.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's like thirteen fourteen years. It's been like

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Speaker 1: going through every prospect. Hopefully we've learned something. But that's

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Speaker 1: what's so funny, and that's like the ultimate realization. Even

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Speaker 1: going back to twenty twenty one, was like, yeah, one

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Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks is gonna work out, just one and

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Speaker 1: like you spend all this time on like seven different guys,

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Speaker 1: like what do you want? Fields do you want? You know,

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Speaker 1: Drake maydo you know, you know, like you should like

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Speaker 1: it might be one guy.

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Speaker 9: We should have real estate in your mind that are

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Speaker 9: now just.

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Speaker 6: Like it's just like it doesn't like we spend so

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Speaker 6: much time to people deuces talking about Jake Bobo, like, oh,

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Speaker 6: that'd be funny. He's a local and now he's going off.

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Speaker 1: But meanwhile we're talking about the receivers.

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Speaker 6: I don't know, it's just it's just funny.

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Speaker 10: You should have a love his blonde lock draft like

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Speaker 10: blindly like stuff like that or something.

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Speaker 1: That's what felgrin Ma does. Oh yeah, I know. It's

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Speaker 1: it's insulting.

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Speaker 5: I listened to that every single year and literally scream

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Speaker 5: at the radio because of how insulted I am by

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Speaker 5: how little they know about the guys. Like I'm like,

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Speaker 5: you are literally paid to be on a sports radio

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Speaker 5: and you throw it dark and you hit and you're

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Speaker 5: like Drake May I, Oh, it's so frustrating when they

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Speaker 5: hit somebody and then in your head you're.

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Speaker 1: Like that's a good fit. Yeah yeah, like he's on

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Speaker 1: my back. I can't say anything right now.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I see it's like that's that's one hundred percent.

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Speaker 5: Like if you look at statistically about thirty to thirty

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Speaker 5: five percent of draft picks hit.

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Speaker 6: You could say mel kiper like a sports weathermen. He

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Speaker 6: gets paid to be wrong.

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Speaker 5: I mean milk Piper, you know, like that set the Trailblazer. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 5: but his quarterback rankings have been off for like ten years.

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Speaker 13: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But if he's talk fast enough, nobody knows. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I Mean the thing I always compare it to is like,

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Speaker 1: imagine if you had to go around to bunch of

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Speaker 1: college seniors right now and predict who's going to like

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Speaker 1: be the best employee at your company, Like take the

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Speaker 1: football out of it, which is obviously brings it to

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Speaker 1: a whole other level, but even that is so hard

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Speaker 1: to project, like who's you know, who's going to become

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Speaker 1: a professional and understand what it takes to work and

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Speaker 1: you know and put an effort and you know, have

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Speaker 1: to work long hours or you know, maybe do things

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Speaker 1: you don't want to do. Like that's the biggest thing

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Speaker 1: that you can.

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Speaker 9: Don't want to work.

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Speaker 5: You can't you can't measure competitiveness, work ethic like those

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Speaker 5: types of things, and so often that's what it comes

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Speaker 5: down to, Like you can have the most talented prospect

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Speaker 5: in the world. You know, all guys, All these guys

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Speaker 5: have talent. That's why they're in the draft, Like, it

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Speaker 5: wouldn't be here if they didn't. But do they have

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Speaker 5: that killer instinct? Do they have that competitive fire? Do

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Speaker 5: they want to be great and not just say it? Like,

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Speaker 5: do they actually want to be great?

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Speaker 14: Like?

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Speaker 5: And those are things that you know, I think the

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Speaker 5: scouts get a little bit more of an opportunity to

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Speaker 5: be able to talk about those things with guys like

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Speaker 5: this and and study these guys and get to know

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Speaker 5: them as human beings because like half of the evaluations

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Speaker 5: happens on the field, but the other half is about

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Speaker 5: just who are these people?

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Speaker 10: I feel like the biggest thing to like test and

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Speaker 10: honestly be able to evaluate is like someone's ability to

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Speaker 10: fight through adversity. And I think up until like the

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Speaker 10: past few years when Alabama has now been challenged in

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Speaker 10: the SEC, Like, how are you supposed to evaluate someone's

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Speaker 10: ability to be able to do that when they go

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Speaker 10: twelve to thirteen to No, they never lose their entire career.

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Speaker 9: I mean, Trevor Lawrence is like a dream team too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, It's like Trevor Lawrence, He's never lost as much

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Speaker 4: as he has until right now at the Jacks.

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Speaker 10: It's like, how do you evaluate someone's ability to like

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Speaker 10: bounce back back?

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Speaker 4: Do you evaluate that, yeah, someone has so good?

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Speaker 5: I think the problem is is that for a lot

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Speaker 5: of these guys, you know in the draft with nil

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Speaker 5: and the transfer portal, they all are coming from loaded offenses.

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Speaker 5: Like the only guy that really is coming from an

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Speaker 5: offense that wasn't is Drake may You know, you look

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Speaker 5: at Jayden Daniels like he's throwing to two first round

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Speaker 5: wide receivers like Milik Naghbor is going to be a

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Speaker 5: top five, top eight pick in the draft, Brian Thomas

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Speaker 5: junior and the or other receiver is going to be

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Speaker 5: a top twenty five pick in this.

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Speaker 4: But he's also facing good defenses in the SEC, which is.

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Speaker 1: Like, to an extent, the SEC had a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a down defenses existed in college football. But I

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Speaker 1: was gonna just I was gonna riff on Mac for

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Speaker 1: a second, just because you know, having written his profile

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Speaker 1: and you know, not a guy that had to stick

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Speaker 1: around and had to play on the practice squad.

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Speaker 6: For a while.

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Speaker 1: So framed a certain way, you could look at Mac

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Speaker 1: and say he hung around, he waited, he won the job,

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Speaker 1: he competed, he wanted to compete. I mean after we

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Speaker 1: drafted Mac, I was trumpeting him going from the National

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Speaker 1: Championship right to the Senior Bowl working out. You know,

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Speaker 1: had two pro days during COVID. You know, all those

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Speaker 1: things kind of point to like a guy who's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to rest on my laurels. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to go out there and throw with everybody. I don't care.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to compete. And you know, all those signs

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Speaker 1: pointed great, But then you made the point. But he

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Speaker 1: was also playing with an all star team, so you can,

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Speaker 1: you know, point to that direction too.

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Speaker 9: So it's just it's sent to your point.

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Speaker 1: You see.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he clearly is a very hard worker. He clearly

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Speaker 7: puts the time in. But sometimes it's that's not the intangibles,

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Speaker 7: you know.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I was gonna say his issue is talent.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like like he Mac Jones is here at six am,

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Speaker 5: Like he's that guy that is is rolling in first

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Speaker 5: one in, last one out, putting in all of the work.

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones is just not talented enough.

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Speaker 10: And that I mean and even before like c de Stroud,

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Speaker 10: same thing with their house state, Like there have been

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Speaker 10: such a great program with great quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: They've all gone to the national championship.

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Speaker 1: But like why is he different? Why is he Why

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Speaker 1: is he the one that hit because he failed the test?

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Speaker 1: But I mean I was even gonna say something like,

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Speaker 1: you know, to Evan's point, when they have in the

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Speaker 1: at the comboine, sometimes they'll have like a like a

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Speaker 1: little basketball hoop, shut up, set up, and they'll like

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Speaker 1: have the guy like artlet's like horse right now, Like

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Speaker 1: things like that that like show you like the tom

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Speaker 1: Brady's of the world would be like let's go and

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Speaker 1: would be bys if they didn't win, and like.

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Speaker 9: Even chugging a beer competitive And.

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Speaker 1: Those people are so annoying in real life, right, Like

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Speaker 1: everybody hates that guy that you're like, we're just playing

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Speaker 1: like tik tac toe. You don't have to throw the

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Speaker 1: card across the table. But those are the guys that

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Speaker 1: succeed in the NFL, the guys that all feel absolutely

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Speaker 1: obsessed with winning, and it's it stinks in real life,

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Speaker 1: but that's what you need to be those guys. And

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Speaker 1: I mean I think a lot of them have that.

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Speaker 1: But like you said, Evan and I mean I said

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Speaker 1: it last year. I think about Mac where it was

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Speaker 1: like can you work yourself into a star, Like if

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Speaker 1: you work hard enough, but you don't have that much talent?

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Speaker 1: Is there enough hard work? And I think that was

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Speaker 1: some of the false narrative on Tom Brady, that like

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Speaker 1: he wasn't that talented and that he just worked hard

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Speaker 1: and had the belt check and you know, was able

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Speaker 1: to kind of grow, but system talented, Like he was

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Speaker 1: really talented.

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Speaker 5: And really I think we're getting to the point though

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Speaker 5: with like these modern athletes where I don't know if

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Speaker 5: like a Tom Brady not that obviously from a resume standpoint,

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Speaker 5: that Tom Brady's never gonna exist again. But like I

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Speaker 5: don't even think Patrick Mahomes is really wired like Tom

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Speaker 5: Brady is. I just think he's that good. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 5: like I just think that that's that's the way it is.

878
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 5: And like I think it's maybe more prevalent in like

879
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 5: the NBA currently than the NFL, But I think the

880
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 5: NFL is starting to get there where a lot of

881
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 5: these guys like it's it is not and it's not

882
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 5: the Tom Brady end all be all, but they're just

883
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 5: so talented.

884
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: That they end up winning. You know, I saw the

885
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: question phrase differently. I mean, and not to get into

886
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes of it all, you know, because everybody when

887
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: we talked about syste woyining, do you instantly have to

888
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: like stack him up in history as to where he

889
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 1: is now? But I kind of liked it better phrased

890
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: as is Patrick Mahomes playing the quarterback position right now

891
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: better than anyone else ever has without having to get

892
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: into like history and all that. Like, is that an

893
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: argument to be made? And I kind of think it

894
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: might be.

895
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 5: I think he's the most talented, physically talented and gifted

896
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 5: quarterback maybe ever. I still think that Brady probably had

897
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 5: seasons and stretches that were equal in terms of like

898
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 5: what he actually was putting on sevens. Yeah, but I

899
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 5: think that you know, Mahomes, his ability to move around

900
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 5: and throw the ball out of structure and the arm

901
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 5: talent and all that stuff. I mean, he's just better

902
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 5: at those things than Tom Brady. But it doesn't mean

903
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 5: he's better.

904
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 6: It's interest because I want to see you with Mahomes,

905
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 6: Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, and like Mahomes, he wants

906
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 6: to stop now he can and he'll be up there,

907
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 6: but I want to see what they do when they

908
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 6: reached the thirty three year old, like Josh Allen, Is

909
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 6: Josh Allen going to be trucking people at thirty three?

910
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 6: Like is like you know what I mean? So I

911
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 6: want to I wonder if.

912
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 7: Mahomes has like his own Alex Guero like ye deal

913
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 7: with and imagine if he did, Like imagine.

914
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: If he was I mean like not to like be

915
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 1: like a body shamer, but like he's he's.

916
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 10: Really not in deli in his life is in way

917
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 10: better share hit the picture of him with like no

918
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 10: shirt on, I think from either parade or like.

919
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 6: At the Super Bowl AFC Championship.

920
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 4: I think it was giving mac Jones like it was.

921
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, that's to be fair. Like Brady

922
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 5: wasn't like you know, like TV twelve Brady until later on.

923
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 5: Uh you know when he first started he was, I

924
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 5: mean you remember the combine photo, like he was he

925
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 5: was not any in any great shape. That that kind

926
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 5: of happened when it did get into the longevity thing

927
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 5: of like how am I going to do this for?

928
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 5: You know, as long as I want to do it for.

929
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 5: And that's when Alex Guerrero and the TV twelve method

930
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 5: and like all that stuff.

931
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 7: But he was so ahead of the curve on all

932
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 7: that stuff because I remember we would hear about Tom's

933
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 7: diet and his just his regimens in general, and people

934
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 7: were like, how are you living a life like that?

935
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 9: Like that's insane? But now it's like in Vogue all

936
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 9: the biohacking he's doing, like it's the new cool thing.

937
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: Oh, Zempe lost me biohacking. But it's just it sounds

938
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: crazy to think about. But just I mean, you think

939
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: about Mahomes dominating in twenty thirty six, and that's like,

940
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: like that just sounds like a lifetime away, and to

941
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: imagine that to continue like it did with Brady. I

942
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: just I think we all know though, how hard it

943
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 1: is to just you know, like you just have dips.

944
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: Like there's years that Mames might have an injury, he might,

945
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I don't want to about this

946
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: about Brady.

947
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 6: No, but but stuff happens, like like Josh allens to

948
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 6: hit away from Ruiny to Bill's season.

949
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 5: Is you never know, Andy Read's older than Bill. Yeah,

950
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 5: so like Andy Read's not going to be his coach forever.

951
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: So what happened. Is he going to be like Bill

952
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,240
Speaker 1: Walash to George you know, was it George Seffert?

953
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 4: Right?

954
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: They get that right?

955
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 5: Is that going to be like the transition and it's

956
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 5: gonna be you know, not seamless, but like he's still

957
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 5: gonna be good enough to keep winning or does it.

958
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: Become what a lot of Patriots fans will argue it

959
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,359
Speaker 1: became that it was all kind of Tom without Bill

960
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: at the end, you know, like Tom didn't really need

961
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: Bill at the end.

962
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 5: That Travis Kelsey's thirty four. Yeah, like he's he's gonna

963
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 5: be done soon.

964
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 10: I do wonder since they won if he's he might

965
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 10: just call it quits and be like, oh, this was

966
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 10: great to the swift season like Australia.

967
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 4: Now.

968
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 9: I think he was on the record. I think he

969
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 9: said that he wants to go as long as he can.

970
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: Okay, It's it's interesting to me. It's just it's kind

971
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: of like a David Andrews thing of like what the

972
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: will to continue to compete after you won championships and

973
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: to take the punishment and the work that's required you

974
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: know at this like we know what it takes for

975
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: these guys. It's crazy, like I don't know. I just

976
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: have a lot of respect, especially a guy like David

977
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: Andrews who just kind of keeps doing it. Yeah, let's

978
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: jump over to the phones here, because the fans are

979
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: absolutely stacked. Start with Todd in North Carolina. Haye, Toddy, guys,

980
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: how you doing Hi? Hello? What we're doing?

981
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 4: Good?

982
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 15: Okay. The first one is simply put, did you guys

983
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 15: really listen to ESPN when they said that mister Belichick

984
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 15: are a good coach kind of lost contact with the people,

985
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 15: like you just couldn't find leaders. And he couldn't be

986
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 15: the leader for these young guys because he just couldn't

987
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 15: connect with them. And the other thing is kind of

988
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 15: a game. The Patriots will be over five hundred because

989
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 15: or the Patriots will be under five hundred because just

990
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 15: answer those things and that's all I got, thanks, guys.

991
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 1: Patriots will be under five hundred because they just don't

992
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: have enough talent yet. On the offensive side of the ball.

993
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 6: The Patriots will be under five hundred because Mac john

994
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 6: is still the quarterback.

995
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 5: I think those are saying the same things, and I

996
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 5: would go with you, guys, Yeah, under five hundred, over

997
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 5: five hundred. Jaden Daniels is awesome, or Drake may is awesome.

998
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, that would be the end up with a quarterback

999
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 9: that just really moves the needles and Marvin Harris.

1000
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 4: Over five hundred.

1001
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly, who's throwing that.

1002
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 4: Over five hundred? Because they do just enough to win,

1003
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 4: not blowing anybody away, but just enough to win.

1004
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 6: I like it, Steelers did I did sneak.

1005
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: I didn't hear the first part about.

1006
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 6: Losing contact with people in the buildings.

1007
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I think he was saying that, you know,

1008
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 5: the whole Belichick can't connect younger players anymore, and that

1009
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:34,919
Speaker 5: that sort of thing. I don't know, like, I don't

1010
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 5: think it's like a personality like they Belichick is, you know,

1011
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 5: we can't be buddies, you know what I mean. I

1012
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 5: think it's more about like the way the program was run,

1013
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 5: Like he ran a very very tight ship that was

1014
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 5: very hard to be a player here, and I just

1015
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 5: don't think the modern athlete necessarily wants it to be

1016
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 5: that way anymore these days.

1017
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: So it feels a lot different. I mean, it's I

1018
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: kind of knew it was what, you know, what would happen,

1019
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: but I just I think until you experience it, it's

1020
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to really fully grasp, like how

1021
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: different it is to have a new head coach come

1022
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: into an organization and how many things just change. And

1023
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's one hundred things that have changed that

1024
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: we have no concept of or no idea what what

1025
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: have changed. But even just the small glimpses that we've

1026
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: got from Gerard, from some of the coaches, I mean,

1027
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: it's just you can understand why young players would want

1028
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: to play for these guys, and you know, so to

1029
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: that to that idea, you see the direction they're going

1030
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: with some of these guys. But it's just a it's

1031
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: a really likable staff, you know, And that's it's different

1032
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: because you just I always felt at arm's length from everybody,

1033
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: and here we are in February, and I don't want

1034
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: to say that we're going to be any closer than

1035
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: that this year, but it was just nice to get

1036
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 1: to see these guys kind of as people first.

1037
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think, you know, there's just like a couple examples,

1038
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 5: you know. Trent Brown brought up I think in the

1039
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 5: interview who did with Nesson at the time about like

1040
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 5: the schedule and how the players wouldn't find out the

1041
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 5: schedule for the next day until like six o'clock the

1042
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 5: day the night before, and they would all just be

1043
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 5: waiting around for the schedule, whereas other teams the schedule

1044
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 5: for like the entire month might already be.

1045
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 6: Every day.

1046
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 5: And you know, he said that they weren't sure about

1047
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 5: the schedule for the bye week, and a lot of

1048
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 5: times in the bye week, guys, you know, go on vacation,

1049
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 5: take time off, spend time with their families, and they

1050
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 5: weren't able to make plans for the bye week. And

1051
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 5: I know that that sounds ridiculous, like you should be

1052
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 5: focused on winning, you know, or whatever, but that that's

1053
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 5: the sort of you know, like life stuff that just

1054
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 5: was coming up. And I think the other thing, you know,

1055
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 5: I was there and Duce you were in Green Bay.

1056
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 5: The back to back joint practices on the road that

1057
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 5: they had originally scheduled was crazy, Like that was absolutely insane,

1058
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 5: and the players.

1059
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: Were like did not want to do it.

1060
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 5: It was just very clear talking to some of those

1061
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 5: guys that they were kind of pissed that they were

1062
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 5: going to be away from their families for like almost

1063
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 5: two full weeks. And I understand that some people think

1064
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 5: that they shouldn't care about you know, they all should

1065
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 5: be one mind track towards winning and all that stuff.

1066
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 1: But it's just like the culture stuff. It's the you know, workplace.

1067
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: It's worth just real quick, sorry, it's worth highlighting though,

1068
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: Like you're talking about like people with families, like these

1069
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: are older players. I mean we're also talking about like

1070
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: you know, trouble connecting with the younger kids that don't

1071
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: really have families that really shouldn't have a problem, but

1072
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: it just kind of shows like how those policies kind

1073
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: of impacted everyone across the roster, from young guys to

1074
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: older guys with families.

1075
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 10: I think that there's like I feel like there's so

1076
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 10: much you saw so much value and importance. You can

1077
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 10: see so much value importance in that when you have

1078
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 10: that ability to get the actual break that you need

1079
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 10: during a bike because you have the schedule. So who

1080
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 10: knows the value that they could have had if they

1081
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 10: were able to actually go back home and see family,

1082
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 10: go on a trip whatever, or even like you mentioned

1083
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 10: the joint practices or even not do that, like even

1084
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 10: just like have a joint practice here or have both

1085
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 10: of them here.

1086
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1087
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 5: I think like, yeah, I think it was the Yeah,

1088
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 5: having the joint practice in Green Bay, I don't think

1089
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 5: was a problem. But I don't want to name any names,

1090
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 5: but like I we talk to a lot of guys

1091
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 5: and they were like, are you staying with us for

1092
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 5: the whole time too?

1093
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: Liked like rolling their.

1094
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 5: Eyes, like oh, like this stinks right, and like I

1095
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 5: wasn't even practicing, so like to imagine like putting your

1096
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 5: body into that situation and then also on top of it,

1097
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 5: not really want to be there at August.

1098
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 6: You talk about two weeks when you got eighteen weeks right.

1099
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 13: Getting started and already want to go home years ago

1100
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 13: in Vegas, like yeah, And I think that they look

1101
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 13: at that, and they look at the schedule too, like

1102
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 13: we have this, we have Germany this year, like we

1103
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 13: have all these like longer trips, and like that I

1104
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 13: think makes it makes an impact.

1105
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: Let's bank some more calls out here, Patty and Patty,

1106
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: how do you remember?

1107
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 16: Hey, guys, I'll make it quick because I know my

1108
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 16: phone sucks going on, young and handsome.

1109
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: Dude, Oh thank you.

1110
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 16: Just got a quick question about Mike and and that

1111
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 16: is do you think they try and bring him back

1112
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 16: with the expectation of him playing right tackle because I'm

1113
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 16: sort of bum all side of the street when it

1114
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 16: comes to offensive lineman. Regarding if he wants to come

1115
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 16: back and play right guard, I just say, you know,

1116
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 16: go with one of the young guys or see if

1117
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 16: he could still the position and later on in the draft,

1118
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 16: because I mean, he was a sixth round draft pick

1119
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 16: and hopefully, like I want it back, but I want

1120
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 16: to back playing the right tackle and I just want

1121
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 16: to get your guys opinion on that. That's all I got.

1122
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. It's an interesting conversation.

1123
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 5: And if they end up using the not using the

1124
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 5: franchise tag on anybody, then maybe it's not. But if

1125
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 5: they end up using the franchise tag on Kyle Duggar

1126
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 5: over Mike on Winn, who, I do think that that

1127
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 5: tells you what this coaching staff and this scheme thinks

1128
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 5: of a three forty pound offensive lineman that might not

1129
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 5: be the best skill set in certain in terms of

1130
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 5: what they want to do.

1131
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: I'm so torn because I kind of feel like, when

1132
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: you I think he's a very good player, I just don't,

1133
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of see city so and say, look,

1134
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: let's just let's not overinvest in the offensive line right now,

1135
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: let's just can try to continue to spread those resources around.

1136
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: But the same time, I can't say that and not

1137
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: acknowledge that I've been a very big critic that they

1138
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 1: haven't retained their own players. And so even though I

1139
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 1: think Michael Minu and Kyle Duggar and josh u Ja

1140
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 1: and even Jennings a little bit, you know, they all

1141
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: have their kind of warts. They're not perfect players, but

1142
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: there are players We've already put a lot of time

1143
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: in them. So I think that there is value to

1144
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: saying they're not perfect, but retain them. So you send

1145
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: a message to the locker room that we're going to

1146
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: bring our players in. If you come here, you work hard,

1147
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: you play hard for us, We're going to keep you

1148
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 1: in the building, and we're gonna start to rebuild this

1149
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: leadership structure that, let's face it, took a big blow

1150
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 1: this week with Matthew Slater and Lawrence Guy departing and

1151
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: even Adrian.

1152
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 5: For Yes, I think that there's like something to be

1153
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 5: said there too, of like giving Christian Barmore an extension up, like,

1154
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 5: you know, sending those messages. I think that all out

1155
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 5: you get rewarded, right, and it comes back to Mac Jones.

1156
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 5: Like that's why I just can't wrap my head around

1157
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 5: Mac Jones being here, because what does that tell the

1158
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 5: other fifty two guys in the locker room. But I

1159
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 5: can't believe like people look at their offensive line play

1160
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 5: over the last couple of years and they're like it

1161
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 5: doesn't matter, Like I just not to like pick on

1162
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 5: Paul when he's not here, but like, I just that

1163
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 5: just blows my mind that you can watch how horrible

1164
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 5: they have been on the offensive line for two years

1165
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 5: and then think that we can just draft some guy

1166
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 5: in the sixth round and everything's gonna be fine, Like

1167
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 5: we don't have to put value into that.

1168
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: It's mind blowing.

1169
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 10: The Lions, I think, are a good example of what

1170
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 10: an offensive line did for them. Like they wouldn't have

1171
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 10: gotten as far as they did without that brick wall

1172
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 10: for their quarterback. Like obviously, you know they have great receivers.

1173
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 10: I'm not going to diminish that, but I think their often, yeah,

1174
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 10: their offensive line was huge for them.

1175
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: So they hit on Am and Ross Saint Brown, you

1176
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 1: know late round pick who's a you know, chainover kind

1177
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 1: of a guy. And I mean it is a model

1178
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: to consider, and I mean maybe something you know, I

1179
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: don't know if I would ask.

1180
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 6: You, do they have anool that well just funny because

1181
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 6: like the Bengals Super Bowl, like Jamar Chase, Joe Burrow's

1182
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 6: gain attack. Yeah, it was like.

1183
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 5: Even the Niners just now, like you know, the Niners,

1184
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 5: their offensive line outside of Trent Williams is kind of

1185
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 5: falling apart, and it's probably their biggest need this offseason

1186
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 5: is addressing that. And they they they couldn't complete passes

1187
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 5: because brock perty is getting killed, like you know, they're

1188
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 5: buzzing and they're not picking it up and things like that.

1189
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 5: And I just I don't understand how we can like

1190
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 5: watch what happened to mac Jones, watch him deteriorate and

1191
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 5: like turn into a shell because of the pressure, and

1192
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 5: then not like sit here and say, oh, don't worry,

1193
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 5: like Jayden Daniels will be fine if we don't have

1194
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 5: any offensive linemen.

1195
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: It's fine, Joel, you are a New England Patriot.

1196
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 4: Love that.

1197
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: Jimmy and Connecticut. Hey, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, are you there?

1198
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 6: Three? Two one? Smell you all right?

1199
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: Smell you sorry. Jimmy, here's the guy that's sidelined. Jimmy,

1200
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: I'm going down to speed in Fresno. Speed yo.

1201
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 4: Uh.

1202
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 17: The Patriots finish under five hundred because Alex Champel's builds

1203
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 17: an offense too much cater to like the skills of

1204
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 17: the players rather than coming to the table with his

1205
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 17: own sort of clear scheme strategy, and it just seems

1206
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,360
Speaker 17: like a little weird in his press conference when he

1207
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:04,800
Speaker 17: was saying, Hey, I don't know what our offense is

1208
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 17: going to look like I'm paraphrasing there, but you guys

1209
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 17: find that a little bit kind of odd or No.

1210
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: I think he's full of it.

1211
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 7: I think it was like coach speak to an extent,

1212
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 7: but also like that's more draft a quarterback that's a runner,

1213
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 7: Like then, yeah, yeah, don't you're going to tiller it

1214
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 7: that way.

1215
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: I don't think the options are so wide that he's like,

1216
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: we might take a supermobile quarterback who can't throw, we

1217
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: might take a pocket passer. Like there's definitely something they

1218
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: like and they want, but I just I don't think

1219
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: they're sure that they can get it, so they can't

1220
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: really say, not that they would say anyway.

1221
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, they don't have personnel control at

1222
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 5: the end of the day, so they can't sit there

1223
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 5: and say, you know, this is what we need. But

1224
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 5: you know, Alex and I are talking about this on

1225
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 5: catch twenty two, and one of the quotes that stood

1226
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 5: out to Alex was sort of what Spee is talking about,

1227
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 5: where Van Pelt was saying, you know, schemes are only

1228
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 5: so good. You have to have the players and you

1229
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 5: have to be you know, versatile, And I'm like, no,

1230
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 5: I don't want you to say that. I want you

1231
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 5: to say to Elliott Wolf, this is my scheme. These

1232
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 5: are the players that I need. Get me these players

1233
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 5: and will be good. I don't want Elliott Wolf to

1234
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,479
Speaker 5: be handing him Jayden Daniels. And then Alex man pelp

1235
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 5: being like I don't know what to do with this,

1236
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 5: Like I like, why didn't you ask me?

1237
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 13: Right?

1238
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 5: Like what's the point of that? Like where is that

1239
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 5: going to get anybody? It's going to get both of

1240
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 5: them fired, frankly, is what it's.

1241
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 1: Going to do. Evan.

1242
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 17: Do you think that in the this new, brave, new

1243
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 17: world of collaboration with the large coaching staff, that that

1244
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 17: maybe Alex van Pelt's preferences, making them known in an

1245
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 17: assertive way becomes a little bit more difficult because everybody's

1246
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 17: got to work together. Kumbaya.

1247
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 5: I don't think there's as much collaboration as what people

1248
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 5: are leading on. I think that that's a nice corporate

1249
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 5: buzzword to put out there and have everybody, you know,

1250
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 5: sing kumbay on. Make that the vision or the I mean,

1251
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 5: the the outward facing like vision of the team is

1252
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 5: that we're going to be collaborative. I don't think at

1253
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 5: the end of the day that it's going to be

1254
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:56,800
Speaker 5: as much of that.

1255
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 9: Yeah, like they're not going.

1256
00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 2: To take.

1257
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 17: These evan hot takes. It's just like there's not a

1258
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 17: lot of collaboration as much as they're saying. And Alice

1259
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,879
Speaker 17: van Pelt actually has a clear offensive image for what's

1260
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 17: going to happen.

1261
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:09,719
Speaker 16: I like it.

1262
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:11,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.

1263
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 5: I don't know about van Pelt still like he still

1264
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 5: needs to prove it to me. But I think the

1265
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 5: two people making the decisions in the building right now

1266
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 5: are Girodmeo and Elliot Wolf, and I think everybody else

1267
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 5: is kind of just falling in line below that mass

1268
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:27,359
Speaker 5: tas kind of works right.

1269
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks b appreciate the call. We got one more.

1270
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: We got Boston Cream calling in right now, and yeah,

1271
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: hopefully Alex's hair is looking good today because what happened

1272
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: last time? Hey, Boston Cream, how's your donut day going?

1273
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 13: What's up? Guys?

1274
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 18: I feel like we got a little bit of we're

1275
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 18: on to Cincinnati moment for Alex hair, Alice's hair. Look

1276
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 18: at the volume, look at the curl, look at the

1277
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 18: color that's right there.

1278
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 9: Thanks.

1279
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 4: I think.

1280
00:52:56,360 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 18: Today marks one hundred and ninety six days until patriot

1281
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 18: its first game. Do you guys know who is drafted

1282
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 18: one hundred and ninety six?

1283
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 5: So brawl, I'll leave it at that, all right, we'll

1284
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 5: well it ever or like a specific year like we're

1285
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 5: just I don't know.

1286
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:14,399
Speaker 6: It's a lot of one ninety six.

1287
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: I mean, Brady, that's all I know. Yeah, so that's

1288
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: not one ninety six. That's the only pick I pay

1289
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: attention to. Yah, all right, Cream, you got it. You're

1290
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: gonna have to text us or email us and let

1291
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: us know what the answer to that one was. That

1292
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 1: maybe Paul would have known any men, but.

1293
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1294
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I expected hire. All right, nobody's lunch

1295
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: is here, So we're gonna take a little break in

1296
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 1: honor of Paul when he would eat his lunch. So

1297
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a quick.

1298
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 6: Jose one hundred and ninety six pick from the bus.

1299
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 3: Oh there we go.

1300
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 6: Oh that's right.

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Speaker 11: Isn't it time to get exactly what you want?

1306
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Speaker 8: As I think back over the past few seasons, I

1317
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 8: wanted to thank my most trusted Game Day teammate, Toastitos

1318
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 8: as I recall the last minute grocery runs in late

1319
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 8: night dishwashing, the salty defeats and spicy victories. I realize

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Speaker 8: it was all thanks to my teammate, Toastitos. It was

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Speaker 8: always you Toastedos. Team up with Toastedos, the official chip

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Speaker 8: and dip of the New England Patriots.

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Speaker 11: What's up everybody?

1324
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 8: Yesterday, head coach Geron Mayo introduced his coordinators to the media.

1325
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Speaker 6: Let's have a listener. What you had to say.

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Speaker 19: I feel like I haven't seen you guys in a while.

1327
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 19: I think it was in January. It's really the last

1328
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 19: time I got a chance to speak with you guys.

1329
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 19: I appreciate first of all, you guys coming down. I

1330
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 19: know there are a lot of unknowns right now, whether

1331
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,439
Speaker 19: we're talking about the draft or free agency, but today

1332
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 19: is really about the new coaches, and you know, we'll

1333
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 19: have our coordinators up here to kind of speak to

1334
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 19: you guys. And I don't know if Stacey told you guys,

1335
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 19: but afterwards, the rest of our new coaches. I think

1336
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 19: we have seventeen new coaches. They will come down and

1337
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 19: hopefully we'll get a chance to really vibe and connect.

1338
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 19: They know that, you know, our relationship with the media

1339
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 19: is very important. Stacy and Aaron have done a good

1340
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 19: job explaining it to those guys. But at the same time,

1341
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,240
Speaker 19: I think there needs to be a good relationship between

1342
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 19: the two groups and hopefully, look, I'll try to make

1343
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 19: myself available as much as possible. But at the same time,

1344
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 19: today is really just about the new coaches and the coordinators.

1345
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 20: Process it's like for you and how happy are you?

1346
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? The process? Uh, it was definitely a learning experience.

1347
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 19: I've interviewed people in the past before for other jobs,

1348
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 19: but this one was a little bit different. But it

1349
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 19: was it was exciting and I felt like I learned

1350
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 19: a lot. I learned a lot from the coaches that

1351
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 19: came in an interviewed that didn't get hired. Hopefully they

1352
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 19: had a good sense of what we're trying to build here.

1353
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 3: But it was it was good. It was good.

1354
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,320
Speaker 20: I had this job now for a month, month and

1355
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 20: a half.

1356
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: What's been the biggest surprise for you?

1357
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 19: The biggest surprise for me really has been the lack

1358
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 19: of true football tape. I had an opportunity to watch

1359
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 19: right now as a head coach, it's kind of a

1360
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 19: little bit different right now, we're trying to continue to

1361
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 19: you know, nail down the rest of the staff and

1362
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 19: also get into some of the things we want to

1363
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 19: do in the near future.

1364
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 20: Things from the coaches you didn't hire.

1365
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 3: What were a couple of those things.

1366
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Speaker 19: I mean, I don't want to get into ex's and

1367
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 19: o's honestly, not today. But it was it was mainly

1368
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 19: about x's and o's and how those guys their leadership,

1369
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 19: philosophies and and things like that. It wasn't it wasn't

1370
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 19: anything like groundbreaking, but at the same time, there were

1371
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 19: little nuggets that I took away.

1372
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Speaker 3: How it was to ask some of the education experience,

1373
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 3: it was very important.

1374
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,600
Speaker 19: It was very important for me to have someone that

1375
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 19: I can bounce questions off of that's actually sat in

1376
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 19: that seat. Uh, it's been great. And honestly, I have

1377
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 19: relationships with coaches around the league as well that have

1378
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 19: offered to help.

1379
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 3: You know, they're not in the AFC, so that's a

1380
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 3: that's a good thing.

1381
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 21: You interviewed several candidates for offensive coordinator. What did you

1382
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 21: like about Vin Heel and I guess Benda.

1383
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: Can do as well.

1384
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 19: Yeah, you know, you know, a VP, I'm not exactly

1385
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 19: sure and I don't want to get into what happened

1386
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 19: at Cleveland, but all the people that I talked to,

1387
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 19: they speak very highly of a VP. Obviously he understands

1388
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 19: the exits and nose of the game, but also developing talent.

1389
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 19: And really he is a relationship guy, which I fundamentally

1390
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 19: believe is very important. Uh before you really get into

1391
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 19: exits and those with the guys on the field, they

1392
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 19: got to know that you care about him. And one

1393
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 19: thing about a VP, which you guys will see here shortly.

1394
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 19: He is a people person but also with an extensive

1395
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 19: knowledge of football.

1396
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: Tried to go off of that.

1397
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 14: That offensive coordinator search, at least from AFAR, seemed to

1398
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 14: wide ranging.

1399
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: A number of different people interviewed. Why was it important

1400
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: to cast such a wide.

1401
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 17: Net for that job.

1402
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 19: Yeah, it was my first time doing it, so you

1403
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 19: want to make sure that you have a bar set

1404
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 19: and then work off of that bar. I feel very

1405
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 19: I feel very good about where our staff is. Once again, look,

1406
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 19: there will be one of offs here and there, but

1407
00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 19: it was very important just to talk to as many

1408
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 19: people as we could so we can go to good

1409
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:41,919
Speaker 19: feel for who we wanted to hire.

1410
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 20: Obviously, you got on the defensive side, and you've schemed

1411
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 20: against you know, all the best modern offenses. Did you

1412
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 20: go into this thinking like I went against this offense,

1413
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 20: I'd like to go I'd like to hire somebody from

1414
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 20: that tree, or you know, how did it.

1415
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 3: Work for people a little bit?

1416
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 19: You know, realistically, I'm not going to talk too much

1417
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,439
Speaker 19: about football, but realistically, on early downs you're only gonna

1418
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 19: get you know, so many schemes. It's really the third

1419
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 19: down stuff that you really see coaches start to start

1420
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 19: to shine. It was important, you know, anytime we played

1421
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,920
Speaker 19: Cleveland or teams that. It was at the top of

1422
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 19: my mind. When we played teams like that, you always

1423
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 19: wonder like what are they thinking? And also what are

1424
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 19: they thinking about us defensively? And so I feel like

1425
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 19: we've cast you know, the net that we've casted. I

1426
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 19: will definitely learn a lot from these guys as well

1427
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 19: as we as we prepare for the opponents going forward. Look,

1428
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 19: High Tower, you know, he was my little brother when

1429
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 19: he got here, one of the smartest players that I've

1430
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 19: been around. And we've been talking about this for a while.

1431
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 19: I'll be honest with you, We've been talking about it

1432
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 19: for a while. High Tower has always really wanted to coach.

1433
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 19: He was a coach on the field. Obviously he took

1434
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 19: the torch and kind of ran with it. As far

1435
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 19: as the championships and the leadership skills that he has,

1436
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 19: it was very important. But it wasn't like a you know, yes,

1437
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 19: hey man, you know you want to be my linebacker coach.

1438
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 19: This was a This was an extensive search process.

1439
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: What kind of voice do you have with him? Who

1440
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: is kind of jury coaching?

1441
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 19: Just to be a sponge the same way he was

1442
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 19: when he came in as a player. Just try to

1443
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 19: learn from as many people as possible. When I got here,

1444
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 19: I could talk about my journey.

1445
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 10: Uh.

1446
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 19: You know, you have a guy like DeMarcus Covington who

1447
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 19: really started off on offense, moved over to defense quality control,

1448
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 19: then all of a sudden he's coaching the linebackers without

1449
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 19: the linebacker tag. Then he's going to the front. But

1450
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,520
Speaker 19: he had an extensive knowledge of different position groups. And

1451
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 19: also I would say he really helped me with the

1452
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 19: behind the scenes stone right, the drawing of the cards

1453
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,040
Speaker 19: and you know, setting up practice and things like that.

1454
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 19: Steve helped me as well.

1455
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 16: Uh.

1456
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 19: I spent a lot of time with DC and confident

1457
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 19: what he's what he's taught me. So for High Tower,

1458
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 19: he should do the same thing.

1459
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 22: You mentioned that a number of new coaches a couple

1460
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 22: with the ones that are coming back, it seems like

1461
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 22: a fairly large staff. Did you think this number of sta.

1462
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 19: You know, one thing we wanted to make sure of

1463
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 19: is that we weren't duplicating roles, and so for us,

1464
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 19: we were thinking about what value, what value does this

1465
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 19: role bring to the team. Now, Historically we've always had

1466
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 19: small staffs, and I mean it's hard to get things

1467
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 19: done that way in today's NFL. We weren't really thinking about,

1468
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 19: you know, the size. We weren't thinking. We were just

1469
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 19: thinking about how can we make this staff as good

1470
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 19: as it can be.

1471
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 10: Now.

1472
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 19: Look, honestly, after talking to a lot of coaches your

1473
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 19: first year coaching, like you hope you put together the

1474
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 19: best staff, but realistically, I mean it's a process.

1475
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 21: How much did you rely on Elliott wolf Trot? How

1476
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 21: much did you were on Elliott wolf to help you

1477
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 21: fill out the staff?

1478
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, Elliott, he's been great. He was in all the interviews.

1479
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 19: He definitely has a lot of contacts and resources outside

1480
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 19: of the building. When you you know, from my perspective,

1481
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,080
Speaker 19: all of my football has really been here, So it

1482
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 19: was very important for me to bring in you know,

1483
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 19: the a VP, the mcadoo's Elliott. You know, Elliott grew

1484
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 19: up in the scouting world, He's been at multiple places.

1485
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 19: Very it was very important to get their point of view,

1486
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 19: uh as well.

1487
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: Making any more additions to the coaching staff good place.

1488
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 19: I would say, it's still a process. We're still working

1489
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 19: through it. There are some roles that we're thinking about.

1490
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 19: But at the same time, uh, this is I mean

1491
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 19: we're pretty set. We're pretty set.

1492
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 4: As you're often suppordinator.

1493
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 1: What are you expecting it of your offensive?

1494
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 19: Yeah, I'm expecting you know, first and foremost, a tough team,

1495
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 19: a tough team, and I think after that it really

1496
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 19: gets into uh, smart players. But you don't have to

1497
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 19: be a genius, but you have to be smart enough

1498
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 19: and really uh explosive players than guys that really play

1499
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 19: for one another. We want to check our egos, hold

1500
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 19: on we you know, this is you know, even from

1501
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 19: a coaching staff. You know, I say it's an ego

1502
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 19: free zone. And once we get the coaches on that

1503
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 19: same page, you hope that the players will will follow

1504
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:51,640
Speaker 19: suit and go out there and play for one another.

1505
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 3: I gotta go here. A month ago you this day

1506
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 3: wasn't here, and all of a sudden it is.

1507
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 19: So how are you feeling about that that you're a

1508
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 19: month later now and you're almost got your final coaching

1509
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 19: staff and you're ready to move on? Yeah, I mean

1510
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 19: it feels great. It feels great. And and like I said,

1511
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 19: I'm very happy with the coaching staff that we have.

1512
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 19: You know, after this you'll get a chance to meet

1513
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 19: the coordinators obviously, but also our position coaches will play

1514
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 19: a major part in this team's success.

1515
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 1: Are you able to say, o, firt Round is all

1516
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: the souff and so.

1517
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 19: Shirt Brown is still on the staff, And once again

1518
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 19: I would say, uh, the staff is still pretty fluent.

1519
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 3: But he is on the staff.

1520
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: In a relationship like that frior to send me to.

1521
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Speaker 19: So once Elliott got here, we I mean we hit

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Speaker 19: it off the first time we really met. He's one

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Speaker 19: of those guys. He's an ego free guy. He just

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Speaker 19: wants to win football games and that's what that's what

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Speaker 19: I live by as well. And uh, he's been a

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Speaker 19: great partner in this.

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Speaker 10: Year.

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Speaker 19: Absolutely absolutely from a team my perspective all the way

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Speaker 19: down to the individual players. Our philosophy matches. We want

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Speaker 19: to put good football players out there that are that

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Speaker 19: are fast and smart and really play for one another.

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Speaker 3: He sees it the same way.

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Speaker 20: What role is Robin Lazer? What duties is she performing

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Speaker 20: for you? She was in on at least some of

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Speaker 20: the interviews.

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Speaker 19: But yeah, you know, honestly, like at this point in time,

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Speaker 19: I just kind of want to focus on the coaches. Look,

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Speaker 19: we'll have other opportunities to really talk about some of

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Speaker 19: the things and some of the roles as it starts

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Speaker 19: to really set in the place. But right now I'm

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Speaker 19: focused on the coordinators, and I think we should focus

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Speaker 19: on the coordinators and the assistant coaches.

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Speaker 23: When someone accidentally threw the school play costumes, oh no,

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Speaker 23: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery.

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Speaker 23: Everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx. Where

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Speaker 23: now it's next for residential delivery only.

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Speaker 6: And now great.

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Speaker 1: Moments in.

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Speaker 6: History.

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Speaker 24: So I love college football. He has no interest in

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Speaker 24: it until February, but it's so much. This weekend especially

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01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 24: is going to be great. You know, Alabama, Tennessee. There's

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Speaker 24: probably at least one future Patriot playing in that game,

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Speaker 24: so that would probably be.

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Speaker 1: It okay, because he's patting himself on the back so much.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna just say this, the reason why I don't

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Speaker 5: get into college football in the.

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Speaker 1: Fall is because I have what's called a girlfriend, and

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Speaker 1: I had a shot fireball shot Saturday. I spend it

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Speaker 1: with Jess.

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Speaker 4: So there you go.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to truly enjoy my Saturday this week. And

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Speaker 1: I thought you said we weren't doing we weren't doing persons.

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Speaker 6: That's another great moment from.

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Speaker 1: A little Catch twenty two. Crime There, Player on player,

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Speaker 1: crime up.

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Speaker 4: Do you know?

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Speaker 1: Patriots on Filter is brought to you by the Massachusetts

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Speaker 1: Office of Travel and Tourism. Great memories are made in Massachusetts,

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Speaker 1: MA dot com. All right, we're back the last hour

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Speaker 1: here on our Thursday show. And don't worry for all

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Speaker 1: the people that are emailing me saying I gotta read emails,

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Speaker 1: don't worry. I did an amazing job on the emails

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, and I plan.

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Speaker 6: On doing Juice is playing hurt by the way I

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Speaker 6: can't even.

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Speaker 1: Talk and I it's annoying, really patting on himself on

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Speaker 1: the back. No, well, some some some person wrote in

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Speaker 1: and was like really kind of critical of my email reading,

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Speaker 1: both how I read them and how I jumped right

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Speaker 1: into a response, not a big email like I like

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Speaker 1: on Catch twenty two, I forget to you forget and

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Speaker 1: then you like, oh, I should read one, and then

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Speaker 1: you start into it and you're like and then you

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Speaker 1: do what Fred doesly what what?

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Speaker 10: What?

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Speaker 22: What?

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Speaker 4: What is he talking?

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Speaker 6: We have listeners, slack us that option. I'll slack it.

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Speaker 1: I say this with like all the love in my heart.

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Speaker 5: But like we have to have like a character limit,

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Speaker 5: like don't email I'm on the air, like hosting a podcast.

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Speaker 5: I can't read your like five hundred word out season outline,

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Speaker 5: you know, first sign this guy.

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Speaker 10: This is like another version of like mailbag in a sense,

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Speaker 10: but like speaking to We're gonna have a little mini

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Speaker 10: content meeting here.

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Speaker 4: We could answer some of these like off air, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, let just be more efficient.

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Speaker 4: They could be they could be like mailbags.

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Speaker 13: Question.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think we've we've floated that out there before.

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Speaker 5: Is maybe supplemented leftover ones.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're good ones. Sure, Sure people got questions, but

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Speaker 1: let's jump into those emails right now. First, just Jack

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Speaker 1: and Armor giving NPR a shout out, and he listens

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Speaker 1: to MPR every morning and every Saturday. It's a great

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Speaker 1: source of news to take. You'll like it. You used

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Speaker 1: to have good music out in La on the NPR station.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I forget what it was called, but it was.

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Speaker 6: In the morning.

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Speaker 1: It's always like eighty eight point nine or something. But

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Speaker 1: they're really good music, like the big station out there.

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Speaker 1: Forget okay rock maybe maybe big Boy, big Boy in

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Speaker 1: the word Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I was.

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Speaker 1: I was here. That's more yours.

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Speaker 5: I will because he an entourage. He goes on Big

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Speaker 5: Boy in the morning, So I what a show.

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Speaker 1: Christopher Virginia writes in I think I'm scared to use

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Speaker 1: the number three pick on a QB.

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Speaker 6: Me too.

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Speaker 1: It's because I had Fields in mac number two and

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Speaker 1: three in twenty one, and I was happy with either,

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Speaker 1: And now my feeling is I'd be happy with may

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Speaker 1: or Penix. My question is, would you rather take may

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Speaker 1: or a lower tier wide receiver O T in the

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Speaker 1: second or Penix in the second and a higher two

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Speaker 1: your wide receiver OT at three, the one moving free agency.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see them make his resign. Gilmore, I

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Speaker 1: think he has some left in the tank, would be

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Speaker 1: a great mentor to Gonzo and I feel like that

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Speaker 1: would be beneficial. I'm with you, Chris, I like that.

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Speaker 1: I like that that idea of you know, using Gilmore

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Speaker 1: is the third corner bringing him back, you know, rotating

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Speaker 1: with Jonathan Jones. I think that I'd be all for that.

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Speaker 1: But what do you guys think about you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's what we're kicking around our heads right now.

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Speaker 1: How do you balance the needs?

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Speaker 10: I feel like if you were gonna try to get

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Speaker 10: someone like Penix and what do you say second round?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would you have to make sure you have

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Speaker 4: some protection.

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Speaker 10: For him because you know, as Evan multiple people have

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01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,000
Speaker 10: brought up multiple times like that's a guy who suffered

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Speaker 10: multiple injuries and you don't want him running for his

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Speaker 10: life every single play. And so to get the most

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Speaker 10: productive Michael Penix, you're gonna need to get him some protection.

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Speaker 10: And I don't know if we had.

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Speaker 1: Checking her the egg.

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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I don't know if the pot Penis is

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01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 5: the type of guy too that it all depends on

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Speaker 5: what happens next week. I said, Michael Penix, next week

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Speaker 5: is the best, biggest week of his life, whatever those

1657
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Speaker 5: doctors tell the teams about.

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Speaker 1: Right, all of a sudden, you're like, Oh.

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Speaker 5: It's like Rocky, which, yeah, it can't be a South

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Speaker 5: Pod anymore. Uh No, I I think you know, that's

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Speaker 5: the biggest week of his life. And I mean that

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Speaker 5: in all sincerity, Like what those doctors tell the teams

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Speaker 5: about his knee and his shoulder is like literally his

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Speaker 5: whole life. And I have a feeling that the NFL,

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Speaker 5: the league is going to hurt, you know, knock Penix

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Speaker 5: a lot for the injuries. And I think there's a

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Speaker 5: chance that maybe he's like a third or fourth round pick,

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Speaker 5: like a surprise guy that ends up falling pretty significantly

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Speaker 5: because the league. It's such a big risk for a

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Speaker 5: front office to take, uh a high draft pick on

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Speaker 5: a player that has four season ending injuries on his

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Speaker 5: on his resumes. We can sit here and say, oh,

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Speaker 5: just do it, like it's easy for us to say,

1674
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Speaker 5: but when it's your job that's on the line and

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Speaker 5: you're the one that's actually making the pick, it's a

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Speaker 5: lot harder.

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Speaker 10: So would you if he does end up falling late

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01:09:56,080 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 10: and you know, would you end up taking two quarterbacks

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Speaker 10: in this draft? Like if he was still there like late,

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Speaker 10: like fifth round, like and you already got your person

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Speaker 10: and you're.

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Speaker 6: Like three style.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I I've floated around the idea of taking

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Speaker 5: two quarterbacks in this draft. I mean, I don't think

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Speaker 5: it will be able to be Pennix, but like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: a guy like Joe Milton or the opposite direction, a

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Speaker 5: guy like Michael Pratt. Like whether it's like the safe

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Speaker 5: pick or it's like the high, high ceiling pick, whichever

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Speaker 5: one you know you don't take in the first round.

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Speaker 5: If you take Jayden Daniels in the first round, then

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Speaker 5: maybe you know, RG three Kirk Cousins, Like maybe you'd

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Speaker 5: take a guy like Spencer Ratler or Michael Pratt or

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Speaker 5: something like that who's a little bit more of a

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Speaker 5: traditional player at the position.

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Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't hate that.

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Speaker 6: What about So I'm kind of in a Marvin Harrison

1697
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Speaker 6: because I think elite receivers get it done. Look at

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01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 6: Hopkins and even Mike Evans before Brady, but like for

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Speaker 6: you that good, you get it done? What about Trey Lance?

1700
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Speaker 6: That thought? What done?

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Speaker 1: I think even going back to college he's played.

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Speaker 4: No, I think that's too much of a project.

1703
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 10: Guys think that's a full Like there's already like a

1704
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,839
Speaker 10: huge like rebuilds happening here, Like that's another rebuild in itself.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't kick any quarterback out of bed

1706
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Speaker 1: except for maybe Macron.

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I just feel like if you potentially

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Speaker 6: with I think Marvin Harrison, I'm.

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Speaker 7: In that sense of like he's the generational talent, wouldever

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Speaker 7: like go with the sure thing.

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Speaker 9: But I don't know if I would then drop or

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Speaker 9: bring in a guy like that. I try to bring

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Speaker 9: in like a proven.

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Speaker 6: That I agree, that's just it's just one of those

1715
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Speaker 6: things like if like when have we ever had a

1716
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Speaker 6: receiver like that? You just get it and then if

1717
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Speaker 6: we stink, okay, we we able to pick.

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Speaker 1: I think just my question would be, and that's maybe

1719
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 1: a question for Airlei Wolf would just be like how

1720
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Speaker 1: do you stack your board? Do you not put wide

1721
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Speaker 1: receivers at third on the board because you just can't.

1722
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: That's that doesn't work that way. You can't take a

1723
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Speaker 1: receiver that high. Is he you know, is he not

1724
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: the number three guy on your board? Is there that

1725
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: I can't get over Neighbors? Like, I'm sorry, Like there's

1726
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 1: a big part of me. And you know, granted, I

1727
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Speaker 1: you know, I jump into the stuff in the off season,

1728
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 1: but from what I've seen of these two guys, like,

1729
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy to think that Milik Neighbors

1730
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Speaker 1: will be a more productive all around wide receiver than

1731
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Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison. Well, well, they're just very different players.

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Speaker 5: Like and I also would say that a lot of

1733
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 5: people think that Roma Duneesa it might end up being

1734
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Speaker 5: the most productive guy out of all of these guys,

1735
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Speaker 5: just because of his consistency and stuff. So all three

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Speaker 5: of those guys are in the same tier. To me,

1737
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 5: I think generational. You know, Paul actually talked, you know,

1738
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 5: talked me off this with Hart Harrison. We probably throw

1739
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:28,799
Speaker 5: generational around a little bit too much. Like is Marvin

1740
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:33,640
Speaker 5: Harrison junior Jamar Chase was four drafts ago and I

1741
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 5: would say that he had just as much hype about

1742
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,920
Speaker 5: him coming out as as Marvin Harrison Junior did. So

1743
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 5: it was four years apart a generational gap. Probably probably not.

1744
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 5: We started talking about generational we're talking about once a

1745
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 5: decade once, you know, every fifteen, twenty years. Maybe even

1746
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:54,360
Speaker 5: I just I think he's a great prospect. But Deuce,

1747
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 5: I kind of agree with you. I guess I think

1748
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 5: neighbors in a Douneesa are in the same neighborhood. I

1749
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 5: don't think that those guys are are completely different tiers

1750
01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 5: or different levels. They all have different skills obviously, but

1751
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 5: you know, Neighbors is the type of guy that you

1752
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 5: were gonna have to worry about his speed every single

1753
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 5: time he steps on the field. It's kind of like

1754
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 5: Tyree Hill, like you're gonna have to account for his

1755
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 5: ability to take the top off every single play. And

1756
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 5: that's extremely valuable, you know, in terms of how teams

1757
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 5: till coverage and things like that.

1758
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:25,120
Speaker 1: Just real quick, we did get a little bit of

1759
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:28,679
Speaker 1: news notifying us that Elliot Wolf is in fact confirmed

1760
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 1: for ten am on Tuesday. He will speak at the

1761
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: podium from the Combine in Indianapolis. That'll be the first

1762
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 1: round of interviews. There no Jirobmeo on the schedule as

1763
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 1: of yet, so but we'll take Ellie Wolf because we've

1764
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: never actually even seen a Patriots GM or coach speak

1765
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 1: at the Combine, so Elliot Wolf will take the combine stage. There.

1766
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,640
Speaker 1: Let's jump back to the phone, Soto real quick, go

1767
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 1: up to Vancouver. Hey, Sean, what's going on?

1768
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 25: Hey everybody good to speak with you.

1769
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 26: I hope you're all well.

1770
01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:59,080
Speaker 1: Thanks for Tom Mike.

1771
01:13:59,120 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 26: I hope you get better.

1772
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 1: Fine, just sounds so I feel fine.

1773
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 12: I don't know, I just okay, I don't know.

1774
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 1: I appreciate them.

1775
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 25: I just wanted to put give my thoughts about the

1776
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,679
Speaker 25: Dynasty doc and you know, I'm going to give stars

1777
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:14,639
Speaker 25: as well to like the new interviews with those players

1778
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 25: are great, and the revelation about Drew in the pocket

1779
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 25: from Ernie was cool because I didn't know that. And

1780
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 25: some of the old tips I haven't seen before. But

1781
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 25: some of the wishes, and I think Paul mentioned this

1782
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 25: is I wish they would have kept the truth about

1783
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,600
Speaker 25: the Rams lost, like how close it was, and it

1784
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 25: actually gave us confidence fans and I think it's the team.

1785
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 25: And then also the full story from Belichick with the Browns,

1786
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 25: because you know they did actually make the playoffs and

1787
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,760
Speaker 25: come to New England. They did build a team and

1788
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 25: it was pretty good, and then they were kind of

1789
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 25: destroyed in ninety five when they announced they were moving.

1790
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:51,799
Speaker 25: So that's a little different than the way they portrayed

1791
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,280
Speaker 25: the bounds. And the most important thing that I hope

1792
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 25: maybe I'll mention later, but I really think they missed

1793
01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 25: out was Dick Raybaud because he had a huge impact

1794
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,600
Speaker 25: on bread on Brady and was a big loss. I

1795
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 25: think they've been had patches in two thousand and one

1796
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 25: for him.

1797
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1798
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 25: The other thing I want to talk about was I'm

1799
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 25: really happy that Patriots to fill their coasting positions with

1800
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 25: a big staff that have specific roles because you know,

1801
01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 25: in terms of the philosophy of do your job, the

1802
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 25: whole thing is like focus, don't freelance, Like do what

1803
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 25: you're supposed to do. And when it comes to coaches,

1804
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 25: if you have a small staff, you're forced to multitask

1805
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 25: and that means losing focus and I think that might

1806
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 25: pass down to the players in that sense as well.

1807
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 25: So it's good that everyone is it's going to be

1808
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 25: able to focus on what they need to do and

1809
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 25: hopefully get things straight and we'll have a better clear season.

1810
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 4: Right.

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01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:47,200
Speaker 25: That's all.

1812
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 1: Thanks. I appreciate it.

1813
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 5: They will never tell the story of the Cleveland Browns

1814
01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 5: and Bill Belichick the right way. They'll never do every

1815
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:56,040
Speaker 5: single time they tell the story about Bill and the

1816
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 5: Browns is how awful it was and how much of

1817
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:00,640
Speaker 5: an a hole he was and how it all blew up.

1818
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 5: And you know, Sean, Sean's right, they were they did

1819
01:16:04,160 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 5: they win super Bowls. No, but they had a little

1820
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 5: bit of success and they just didn't really have a

1821
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,520
Speaker 5: quarterback because you know they sort of talked about.

1822
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,600
Speaker 1: That, I guess. But Cleveland ninety five, that doc that

1823
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: I mean that that shines as much light positive light

1824
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 1: on it as as you can imagine. And I mean

1825
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 1: I think it was ninety three or ninety four that

1826
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 1: that he they basically were super Bowl you know in

1827
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. Doesn't mean anything, but you know,

1828
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,679
Speaker 1: sports illustrated to make super Bowl like they were getting

1829
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 1: picks on that based on how they had kind of

1830
01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 1: you know, progressed. But I think you're right. I mean,

1831
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,120
Speaker 1: it's it's one of the great debates. I know Paul

1832
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,080
Speaker 1: loves getting into it on you know, Cleveland and the

1833
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 1: Ravens and you know, Belichick's impact and how much credit

1834
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 1: he gets and all that kind of stuff. But but

1835
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 1: but I agree with Sean and I think about the doc.

1836
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 1: You know, there's plenty of stuff that they left out.

1837
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I've only seen four episodes, so two more

1838
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 1: will release tonight, I believe about what is it nine o'clock?

1839
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,599
Speaker 1: I think Eastern time is when they've been dropping. Released

1840
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: to drop the other two last week, so be sure

1841
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 1: to watch that tonight. You can then watch our Dynasty

1842
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 1: recap podcast.

1843
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 6: Uh, I can't remember the show, so I want to

1844
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 6: talk about the diacety doc real quick, which is as

1845
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 6: I mentioned, these stories have been told so many times,

1846
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 6: so it's like, you know, the man in the arena

1847
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 6: with Tom, Like, didn't they mention how close the Rams

1848
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,200
Speaker 6: game was? Like I think that's why this bounces around

1849
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 6: because you can only retell a story so many times.

1850
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 6: And so I think they're getting to stuff that we

1851
01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 6: haven't heard, like Spygate, Hernandez all this stuff.

1852
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,439
Speaker 1: So well, I just I mean you'll see it tonight, everybody.

1853
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 1: And like Super Bowl thirty thirty nine, twenty one game

1854
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:30,400
Speaker 1: win streak.

1855
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, we'll just go to three games like like three.

1856
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,519
Speaker 1: Minutes of like yeah, and then they be then they

1857
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: won a bunch of games and they dominate the NFL. Like,

1858
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 1: I don't know that was, you know, disappointing to me.

1859
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,640
Speaker 1: There'll be other things that that people will be disappointed

1860
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: with Spygate, you know, we'll get to jump back into that.

1861
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Dick ray Bne thing is interesting too. I

1862
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 5: think that in some respects no offense to Dick Rayvine,

1863
01:17:54,960 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 5: but like I think Bill and mister Kraft and Tom

1864
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 5: Brady are trying to kind of take credit for this

1865
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,640
Speaker 5: whole thing, as they probably should, and as much as

1866
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 5: I agree that he probably deserved mention. For people that

1867
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,479
Speaker 5: don't know, Dick Raybne was the quarterbacks coach at the

1868
01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 5: time for the Patriots, and you know, the story goes,

1869
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:17,640
Speaker 5: the story goes that he was banging the table for

1870
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 5: Tom Brady in the in the draft meetings like that

1871
01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 5: he had saw something from Brady at Michigan and he

1872
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 5: was like his biggest fan in the building before the draft.

1873
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 5: And so a lot of people say that the reason

1874
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 5: why they even had him on the board to begin

1875
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 5: with was because of Dick Rayvine. So I agree he

1876
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 5: his name deserved mentioned, but I think that this doc

1877
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,920
Speaker 5: is really trying to give the Pillars, the credit.

1878
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:44,480
Speaker 1: You know, it's telling the story from a different perspective.

1879
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 1: And I mean, you know, I just you kind of

1880
01:18:46,120 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 1: I assumed like, oh, this is going to be for

1881
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 1: Patriots fans, and it's not. It's for Joe average fan

1882
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 1: who didn't really know and.

1883
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 6: You know that the random presson turns on Apple TV. Yeah,

1884
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 6: well the.

1885
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,679
Speaker 1: Fans like you know, like us who want to see

1886
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 1: you know, a twenty one game winning streak that you

1887
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: know still stands, you know, back to back. I mean

1888
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 1: until the Chiefs a couple of weeks ago. They were

1889
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 1: the last team to do that. You know, there was

1890
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: just a lot of things that were special about those teams,

1891
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 1: and I just I felt like they kind of won

1892
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,519
Speaker 1: the first championship and then they were like, all right,

1893
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 1: let's fast forward now to when things get gritty and

1894
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: you know, get controversial, and you know, that's their episode.

1895
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 1: So we're so good.

1896
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:25,360
Speaker 5: Like for younger Patriots fans like myself that I remember

1897
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,200
Speaker 5: bits and pieces of the two thousand and one season,

1898
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 5: but I was eight nine years old. There's no way

1899
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 5: I was going to remember it like I would remember,

1900
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 5: you know, last season for the you know, for the Patriots.

1901
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:38,040
Speaker 5: So somebody like you do said, you know, live through

1902
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 5: it a little bit more. That's probably old news too,

1903
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 5: that's like stuff you've already known. But for me, I

1904
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:46,000
Speaker 5: think I did learn some things. And I think what's

1905
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 5: a little bit disappointing to Sean's point is that you

1906
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 5: listen to people like Paul, you listen to people like

1907
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,720
Speaker 5: Felger that were there, and they're saying that they're not

1908
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 5: really telling you the story correctly. And that's disappointing because

1909
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:01,479
Speaker 5: now that's going to be my knowledge of it is

1910
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 5: going to be based off of all of these documentaries

1911
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 5: and stuff like that, because I was so young when

1912
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 5: it happened.

1913
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I think. I just was disappointed to see

1914
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:12,040
Speaker 1: press conference Bill, and I think, you know, that's really

1915
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 1: what would have made this to me be a lot,

1916
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 1: you know, just next level. But I mean we can,

1917
01:20:18,240 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, speculate on what his state of mind was

1918
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 1: and in participating in this, but it's just, you know,

1919
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: you want to see storyteller Bill. You want to see

1920
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 1: you know, you want to hear the little behind the

1921
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 1: scenes things for.

1922
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 6: The Army Tavy Bill.

1923
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,040
Speaker 1: You want Army Navy Bill, you want Dante Scornecki a

1924
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 1: yelling at an offensive lineman. Bill. So I think that's

1925
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 1: what we're all kind of waiting for, Like, you know,

1926
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,519
Speaker 1: the dynasty will be what it is. But I still

1927
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:42,200
Speaker 1: think that I at least know. I'm very hopeful that

1928
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 1: someday we'll get a book out of Bill Belichick that

1929
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:48,360
Speaker 1: will be just his his uncensored opinion on everything and

1930
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 1: from his point of view, how it went the way

1931
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 1: it went.

1932
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Speaker 5: That's why I wonder. And I know that some of

1933
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 5: the people, not the b Ages, but are getting older,

1934
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 5: and maybe that's part of it. But I wonder if

1935
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 5: they did it too soon. Yeah, you know, maybe if

1936
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,200
Speaker 5: we did this two or three years from now, when

1937
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 5: respected all this kind of cools down. They taped it

1938
01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:11,880
Speaker 5: when he was was still the head coach of the

1939
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 5: Patriots at the time, but it was clearly go in

1940
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 5: the other direction, and he didn't want to play ball

1941
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 5: like he just did. He didn't want to be a

1942
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 5: part of it, I don't think, and so maybe three

1943
01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:25,120
Speaker 5: years from now or whatever, he would have been able

1944
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:26,639
Speaker 5: to look at it a little bit differently.

1945
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 1: I got an email here from Dan in VA and

1946
01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 1: Michigan got a little comment on like our seating arrangement

1947
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,759
Speaker 1: like it great to see the young Guns team back again.

1948
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 1: I wonder if either Tamarrow or Evan should be sitting

1949
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,719
Speaker 1: in Paul's chair. However, as Matista is just too nice,

1950
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:46,160
Speaker 1: it's throwing things off, not having so much snark coming

1951
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 1: from that direction. Tomorrow and Tamara and Evan might be

1952
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 1: the new Andy versus Paul with their interactions, although at

1953
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 1: times it also remembers Andy's sticking it to Eric Well.

1954
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 6: To be fair, I usually sit in that seat the

1955
01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 6: other times when I was filtered, So I.

1956
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 4: Like giving Evan. It's like my favorite thing to do.

1957
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: It's fun, but it's so good.

1958
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 5: Like you give me crap about not football stuff. You

1959
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 5: give me crap about things that I say that are

1960
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 5: supposed to.

1961
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 1: Not be for air.

1962
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 4: But but you should know better as a reporter that

1963
01:22:14,040 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 4: everything you don't say off the record.

1964
01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 5: We had an off the record meet and greet, and

1965
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 5: I've done very well. I feel like for these four

1966
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 5: hours of not saying anything I shouldn't say, I feel

1967
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 5: like you know same courtesy.

1968
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 1: You know we're off the record. No Yeah, Alex from

1969
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:36,679
Speaker 1: mont Holly writes in she says, I can only picture

1970
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 1: in my head how giddy Evan was meeting all the coaches.

1971
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 1: Right now, I picture him jumping like a little puppy

1972
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 1: begging to go outside and play. But on a similar note,

1973
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:46,919
Speaker 1: given Evan in ninety percent of the world our swifties,

1974
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 1: what Taylor Swift's song do you think was going through

1975
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:53,920
Speaker 1: his head after he met with Alex van pell Oh?

1976
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,400
Speaker 1: I hadn't Sarah Taylor. There was not a Taylor Swifts

1977
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 1: song going through my head.

1978
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 6: I don't know what's that.

1979
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 4: It feel like Alex be the best person to identify

1980
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 4: a song.

1981
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 1: It's the thread, so invisible string, visible string.

1982
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 4: In visible, That's what I was going to say, because

1983
01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 4: that's on his list.

1984
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 1: I don't think that that fits. No, is there anything

1985
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:16,840
Speaker 1: with like playbook or x's and o's in the title?

1986
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 6: Does that?

1987
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 5: I want to Maybe not yet, but maybe maybe her

1988
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 5: next album now that she's dating Travis Kelsey, there'll be

1989
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 5: some football things.

1990
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:27,760
Speaker 9: Like this next album is just going to be a

1991
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 9: roast of X. I saw the track nail.

1992
01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 4: Oh.

1993
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, I saw the track name.

1994
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: On All Taylor Swift All Football album, where it's just

1995
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: her writing when they break up, songs about and reads

1996
01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 1: in the music video the tight ends You gave me

1997
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 1: the wrong end, you know, like you can she breaks

1998
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 1: up with Kelsey. There'll be some There'll be some good

1999
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 1: art there. I can feel it.

2000
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:49,960
Speaker 5: Yesterday was was my was it highlight of my life?

2001
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna you know, And I think the bically

2002
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 5: just the start. The biggest thing is just I just

2003
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 5: want to talk football with these guys. And it's not

2004
01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 5: to go and report it and like break news or

2005
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 5: something like that.

2006
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:01,479
Speaker 1: I just want, you know.

2007
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 5: I asked them questions so that they can teach me football.

2008
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 5: Like that's literally it.

2009
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 15: You know.

2010
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 5: Obviously these guys are encyclopedias when it comes to this stuff.

2011
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 1: So it's you know, what do you look for in this?

2012
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 1: What do you look for in that? What are your

2013
01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,640
Speaker 1: stances on these things? Like those things are are I

2014
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:16,600
Speaker 1: find fascinating?

2015
01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 10: I do? Uh?

2016
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,320
Speaker 1: Anthony Wrights and says love is Blind is horrible? And

2017
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 1: did Alex scare you? Reality TV used to be real breaking,

2018
01:24:25,400 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: used to Herduce. If I could really do any reality show,

2019
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:30,559
Speaker 1: it'd be have to be Survivor. It'd be the most

2020
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 1: fun and I have an actual chance to win, the

2021
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 1: real question is how long would you make it on alone?

2022
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:36,840
Speaker 1: Great question? I love alone? You guys, were watching Alone.

2023
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 14: No.

2024
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 7: But for the record, I didn't say when reality TV

2025
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,360
Speaker 7: was real, I know it's never real, said when it

2026
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:42,439
Speaker 7: was good, like.

2027
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, well season one Jersey.

2028
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:47,840
Speaker 9: Back when reality TV was reality TV, it was like fun.

2029
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 1: And I don't know alone is legit. I mean alone

2030
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: is like they just take twelve people. You go up

2031
01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 1: into like Alaska, you go to separate camps and you

2032
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 1: just see how long you can stay on your own. Yeah,

2033
01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 1: only have clothes because it's usually subarctic tempers.

2034
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 6: I want to do white out going with the bouncing.

2035
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:03,600
Speaker 1: That feels unfair. There's no way to win it. I

2036
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:05,360
Speaker 1: feel like they're just setting you up to get I

2037
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,479
Speaker 1: just went on, Oh yeah, that was like training, like

2038
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 1: a military training kind of show.

2039
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, the CBS showed was intense.

2040
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 1: I do Survivor though, I mean I love Survivor. I

2041
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 1: think I do okay on Survivor, you know because the

2042
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 1: people who stink at it like have no filter and

2043
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:19,880
Speaker 1: like they just say you're gonna get kicked off. Stop

2044
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 1: going around giving everybody crap.

2045
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 5: My friend growing up, his mom when I was on Survivor,

2046
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 5: and she like went really far and is now a

2047
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:32,080
Speaker 5: Survivor celebrity. Oh, one of those pitch does like podcasts

2048
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 5: and stuff like that about the show.

2049
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 1: How many easy do you know any delays who's like

2050
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,680
Speaker 1: obsessed with Survivor and they've seen like every season and

2051
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 1: like they know every single contestant. I've watched seasons. But

2052
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 1: like there are certain people that just love that show

2053
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 1: and they're like, you remember from this guy from the

2054
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 1: Calling from season seven, Like one of.

2055
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 9: My best friends and her mom used to watch it

2056
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:47,840
Speaker 9: all the time.

2057
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 1: They loved it.

2058
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 4: I loved it.

2059
01:25:48,920 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 1: I watched the first to the Doer. It was good.

2060
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 1: Uh oh, all right, So Edmond writes in and says, hey, y'all.

2061
01:25:55,439 --> 01:26:01,919
Speaker 1: First off, Evan's hair looks excellent. Alex's hair also fantastic barbershop.

2062
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:06,559
Speaker 1: Oh there he goes he just got. Is there any

2063
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 1: word or plans to maybe change up the uniforms a

2064
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 1: bit now or even change them all together with this

2065
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:12,640
Speaker 1: whole new revamp of the team. I really don't love

2066
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 1: these current ones and just want maybe a few more

2067
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 1: than just a couple of combinations for game day preach

2068
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:23,040
Speaker 1: is one more year?

2069
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 6: I don't know.

2070
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:27,960
Speaker 5: I think it's it's in the works. I think because

2071
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 5: they have a I think it's one more year. I

2072
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:32,600
Speaker 5: don't know, there's a.

2073
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:35,599
Speaker 9: Times conversations are probably in the works with Nike, but it's.

2074
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 6: Just yeah, it varies on teams because the Rams, remember

2075
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 6: they had the mish mash jerseys. Then we played them

2076
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 6: in the Super Bowl and for some reason they were

2077
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 6: allowed to wear the throwback. So I don't know. I

2078
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 6: think if you really want to make it happen, it

2079
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:47,880
Speaker 6: can just happen.

2080
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: So the Jets are changing, there's already like they just

2081
01:26:50,840 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 1: like two years ago.

2082
01:26:51,439 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 6: And because this is this is this is awful.

2083
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:56,679
Speaker 1: I just think it's it's sad that the dynasty uniforms

2084
01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 1: are gone. Like just there's how many teams that won

2085
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,000
Speaker 1: multiple Super Bowls have different uniforms now than they did

2086
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 1: when they want to.

2087
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,800
Speaker 6: The thing is, I get why they did it, but

2088
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 6: it's just bring it.

2089
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:09,559
Speaker 1: Back and the pants.

2090
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, truly Tom Tom left like it was it was

2091
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 6: felt like it was it was time. But I think

2092
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:16,639
Speaker 6: maybe in hindsight, this is time.

2093
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 1: There's a little haphazard. I say this.

2094
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:21,400
Speaker 5: I know I'm supposed to be a company man, but

2095
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 5: the blueberries are blueberries are absolutely brutal.

2096
01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 6: But did you see did you think about did you

2097
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 6: think that when it was color rush. Did you think

2098
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:32,639
Speaker 6: they were awful when it was color? And I agree?

2099
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 6: So they used to be good, but it can't be

2100
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:34,559
Speaker 6: your everyday.

2101
01:27:34,600 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 5: The only thing that saves it are the gray pants,

2102
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,759
Speaker 5: Like if you're gonna wear blue with the gray pants.

2103
01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 5: But that's more like it's basically the Dynasty look.

2104
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 6: It's just an updated the white jerseys. It looks like

2105
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 6: we're a team that didn't get an NFL brand license

2106
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 6: in a movie and we were just giving like a

2107
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:51,960
Speaker 6: template and this is the jersey. Right, So it's time.

2108
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:53,800
Speaker 6: I'm with the car. We need we need something. I say,

2109
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 6: bring back the Royal blues.

2110
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 1: But that's no. But there's got to be a happy

2111
01:27:58,280 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 1: medium somewhere in there. I don't know.

2112
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 6: It's go to Nike and be like, do your thing.

2113
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:04,640
Speaker 1: Well, they did that last time, and they stunk it.

2114
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 6: I don't think somebody didn't say it.

2115
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,640
Speaker 1: I gotta say though, I even remember most of you

2116
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 1: guys weren't even born at this time, but in two thousand,

2117
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,640
Speaker 1: when the when the they came up with these, I

2118
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: was instantly were born. These are awesome, you know, like

2119
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 1: they instantly resonated with me. There were a number of

2120
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:20,560
Speaker 1: different ways. Yeah, Like, it's not.

2121
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 5: They're not overly complex jerseys, the Brady era jerseys. They're

2122
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 5: just a classic football jersey.

2123
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:29,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wouldn't you feel different though, if

2124
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 1: they came out like it's just all of a sudden,

2125
01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 1: this team comes out in those uniforms. Who's playing quarterback?

2126
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 9: We have now just don't seem that legit, like you

2127
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 9: team playing in the most like.

2128
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 5: You didn't get the licensing deal in the movie and

2129
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 5: you had to wear these jerseys because of that.

2130
01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 1: This one just starts off my beef with Evan. I'm

2131
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,240
Speaker 1: not sure even where it's gonna go. I'm still jumping

2132
01:28:57,280 --> 01:28:59,559
Speaker 1: and read this one, but it's from It's from Barton

2133
01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 1: Poland the discussion around the third pick wouldn't be there

2134
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:04,479
Speaker 1: if we lost one of the two games we won

2135
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:06,080
Speaker 1: at the end of the season. And of course I

2136
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,120
Speaker 1: know the players won't intentionally tank, and I don't fault

2137
01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:10,400
Speaker 1: them for winning, but I absolutely hate the fact that

2138
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 1: a lot of the media, including Evan, told us to

2139
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 1: enjoy those victories and what now. I hope that you've

2140
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 1: enjoyed that win for the for that built the winning

2141
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:20,599
Speaker 1: culture for a team that will be completely different next year.

2142
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 1: Now we're stuck with a question if we are coping,

2143
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 1: if we want to take the QB that has left

2144
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 1: at number three, or is he just a consolation pliers?

2145
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 1: Move on with your life. This was like a this

2146
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 1: was a like four month ago argument. He's still that

2147
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 1: Broncos game. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm just sad that I

2148
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 1: I didn't even have a good Tamara's birthday.

2149
01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 6: I know it's strength the schedule. How are the commanders

2150
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 6: ahead of most It makes no sense, Like it just

2151
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 6: doesn't they beat us.

2152
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:48,400
Speaker 9: International?

2153
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 5: I would just I would just say that I put

2154
01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 5: Drake May and Jayden and Daniels in the same tier.

2155
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:56,560
Speaker 5: So at the end of the day, you're going to

2156
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 5: get one of those two guys, most likely if you're

2157
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 5: going to take a quarterback. So it's not really going

2158
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 5: to make a difference in the odds of one being

2159
01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 5: better than the other are probably a coin flip anyway,

2160
01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 5: So who knows. I you know, you you could go

2161
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 5: through the drafts and everybody ranked them one way and

2162
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 5: then it turned out.

2163
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 1: A different way.

2164
01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 6: Comander's got it wrong with Forbes. They can do it again.

2165
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean last year, Bryce Young, C. J. Stroud

2166
01:30:19,280 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 5: do you think the Panthers wish that they took C. J.

2167
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:21,879
Speaker 1: Stroud? Probably?

2168
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:26,920
Speaker 6: I think that's just a disaster there. Yeah, I think

2169
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 6: they wish they share that too. Did Frank Raik say that.

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Speaker 1: Old man Jason's been holding for a while. Let's pop

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01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 1: back over here to the phones with Jason and Chi.

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01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:35,840
Speaker 1: But hey, Jason, I do man.

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01:30:38,960 --> 01:30:39,200
Speaker 16: Going on?

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01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 26: I'm it's just a hard mornings are hard, second shift

2175
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 26: or so.

2176
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 1: But I got.

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01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:51,600
Speaker 26: By Todd.

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01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 6: Right collar and coller.

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01:30:55,280 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 1: Do you care to respond?

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01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:59,840
Speaker 26: I'm weird, you know, I know who Todd is. I

2181
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 26: been listening and calling in since two thousand and seven,

2182
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 26: so I don't know where he's been this full time.

2183
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:10,000
Speaker 26: But hey, listen, I'm just here to defend the world

2184
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:14,679
Speaker 26: from poor analogies. Quarterback is my race car driver. Quarterback

2185
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 26: isn't the only one moving the team again, eleven people

2186
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:21,920
Speaker 26: on the field. Break it down a little bit. It's

2187
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:29,640
Speaker 26: nine point one one whatever percent of total success.

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01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 17: You need to have.

2189
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 1: That's that's not how friend.

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01:31:34,280 --> 01:31:36,559
Speaker 5: You're telling me that the guard has as much say

2191
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 5: of how the team's success in the quarterback.

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01:31:40,560 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 26: I know that you can't play down on eleven and

2193
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:42,920
Speaker 26: be successful.

2194
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:47,760
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, if you literally don't have somebody on going

2195
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 5: to play that they're gonna play. They're gonna play with

2196
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 5: ten guys on the field, Like that's the argument. They're

2197
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 5: they're gonna put eleven guys.

2198
01:31:56,320 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 26: Out the successful play out of all of the positions

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01:32:01,120 --> 01:32:02,760
Speaker 26: in order to be successful.

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01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 6: All of them, I'm.

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01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:12,759
Speaker 26: Ashworth and the plays out of them, then you should

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01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:13,719
Speaker 26: upgrade the quarterback.

2203
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:14,839
Speaker 16: If you're.

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01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:19,680
Speaker 26: Changes are going to upgrade another position where you're more

2205
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:22,200
Speaker 26: likely to get more winning plays out of that other position,

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01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:23,240
Speaker 26: then that's what.

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01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 10: You have to do.

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01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 26: I mean, I agree that we should be focused on

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01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:29,120
Speaker 26: a quarterback because they don't really have one, but I

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01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 26: I have seen over and over and over again, and

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01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:34,280
Speaker 26: I was kind of hoping Paul would be around to

2212
01:32:34,360 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 26: yell at me because he doesn't feel the play is

2213
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:40,880
Speaker 26: the former quarterback just sort of defending himself. But if

2214
01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 26: you want to stick up for Paul, that's fine. I

2215
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 26: just think we overvalue the quarterback in general, as though

2216
01:32:50,520 --> 01:32:53,480
Speaker 26: that's the that's the only thing that makes an offense.

2217
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,639
Speaker 1: Go and it's obviously not the field.

2218
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 26: They're just being completely ignored.

2219
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 1: It's not obviously not the only appreciate it.

2220
01:33:00,479 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 5: Say that every single position is equal to the impact

2221
01:33:04,400 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 5: of winning and losing is crazy.

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01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:07,640
Speaker 4: I mean, it just.

2223
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 5: That's the only pushback is just that if you think that,

2224
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:15,960
Speaker 5: you know, the guard and the running back and all

2225
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 5: these positions have as much of a say and who

2226
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:21,200
Speaker 5: the outcome of the game as the quarterback. It's not

2227
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:25,800
Speaker 5: dividing one hundred percent by eleven. It's just not like

2228
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:26,919
Speaker 5: that's just the reality.

2229
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 10: And I feel like in looking especially at like the

2230
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:33,679
Speaker 10: Super Bowl, and to everyone's point, it's like brock Purty,

2231
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:36,200
Speaker 10: he played well, like he didn't do anything to make

2232
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:39,760
Speaker 10: his team lose, but he also didn't do anything outstanding

2233
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 10: to make his team win. And that's when, like a

2234
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:44,960
Speaker 10: really great quarterback in that situation where their defense was

2235
01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 10: playing lights out, if they would have had if they

2236
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:50,120
Speaker 10: would have had the Mahomes on their side, they probably

2237
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 10: could have.

2238
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 4: Won the game.

2239
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:52,640
Speaker 1: I mean, how many times Tom Brady end of a

2240
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? I mean, what you know, he was the

2241
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:56,880
Speaker 1: reason you won. I mean sometimes the defense was the

2242
01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 1: reason you want sometimes, but decent defense was more the

2243
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 1: reason you lost. They gave up those last drives and

2244
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 1: you know a lot of the times Tom bowed out.

2245
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 1: But I just think if you the goal is to

2246
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: win Super Bowls. You need that guy at the end

2247
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 1: of the game who can make those plays.

2248
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean, if this doesn't find a quarterback

2249
01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:14,640
Speaker 5: that can win them football games, they're all going to

2250
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:16,400
Speaker 5: be out of a job in two years. Like that's

2251
01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 5: just the reality of life in the NFL for any buddy.

2252
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:23,519
Speaker 1: So Jack writes in free agency splash signing subject line,

2253
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 1: I hope. So with how much uncertainty there seems to

2254
01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:28,559
Speaker 1: be for the future and players we have here, big

2255
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 1: big free agency signing where we actually spend money on

2256
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:33,560
Speaker 1: talent seems like it would make us fans feel some

2257
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:35,639
Speaker 1: sort of excitement and like things are going to change

2258
01:34:35,680 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 1: for the better around here. Do you guys think we'll

2259
01:34:37,439 --> 01:34:40,560
Speaker 1: make a move like that or are we going to

2260
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:42,280
Speaker 1: go be going the route of being sold on the

2261
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 1: Green jill Let Lighthouse experience instead of talent to players

2262
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 1: that was unnecessary, That was a Red Sox shot. I think, yeah, well,

2263
01:34:50,720 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 1: either way, I hope.

2264
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:53,000
Speaker 10: So.

2265
01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:54,760
Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about it on Tuesday that there's

2266
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 1: a real chance to make a splash on defense, and

2267
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:58,280
Speaker 1: I know that they need it on offense and that

2268
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 1: could happen too, But I think given how the market

2269
01:35:00,920 --> 01:35:02,479
Speaker 1: is then you know, they could they could kind of

2270
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:04,599
Speaker 1: get an edge guy, or you know, they could get

2271
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:07,160
Speaker 1: an impact defensive player without having to really upset the

2272
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 1: apple cart.

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01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:09,040
Speaker 10: You know.

2274
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 1: But I think we're on the same page with like

2275
01:35:10,360 --> 01:35:12,479
Speaker 1: trying to get bar More locked up, and you know,

2276
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:14,840
Speaker 1: mcdougar gets locked up, and then all right, we're starting

2277
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:17,760
Speaker 1: to build a core here for this team to you know,

2278
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 1: really to build around and on. And that's frankly what

2279
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 1: they haven't had.

2280
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:22,360
Speaker 10: You know.

2281
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's no excuse not to spending free agency. I mean,

2282
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:27,519
Speaker 5: they have the cap space. You gotta spend a minimum,

2283
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 5: you gotta spend money. I just I hope you don't

2284
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:34,160
Speaker 5: have to spend money just to spend money though. And

2285
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 5: I think that's where we're coming from with the defensive signings.

2286
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:40,519
Speaker 5: If the best players on the board are all defensive players,

2287
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 5: then don't go pay overpay a receiver just because he's

2288
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 5: a receiver. You know, go where the talent goes and

2289
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:48,760
Speaker 5: sign those types of players. I think, you know, there's

2290
01:35:48,760 --> 01:35:50,640
Speaker 5: a million fits on the defensive.

2291
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:50,680
Speaker 1: Side of the ball.

2292
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:52,679
Speaker 5: I think there's a lot less guys that are intriguing

2293
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:54,880
Speaker 5: on the offensive side of the ball, and that stinks

2294
01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:57,000
Speaker 5: to an extent because the offense is the area that

2295
01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:59,960
Speaker 5: they need the most. But I don't just go chase

2296
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:02,640
Speaker 5: saying talent. You know, good big positions. You know, you

2297
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:03,559
Speaker 5: got to chase the talent.

2298
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:06,040
Speaker 1: This email is a little bit feeds into that from

2299
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:09,479
Speaker 1: the other Jack in Abba. If I'm not mistaken, The

2300
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:11,640
Speaker 1: Pats have two running backs under contract for next year.

2301
01:36:11,680 --> 01:36:14,679
Speaker 1: That's correct, Remondes she'vens coming off an injury and Jamichael Hasty.

2302
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:19,000
Speaker 1: Who would you liked them to add in the private Harris? Uh,

2303
01:36:21,280 --> 01:36:22,600
Speaker 1: that's okay, Sorry, I didn't think so.

2304
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 6: I mean he should be.

2305
01:36:23,439 --> 01:36:25,560
Speaker 1: He's probably one of those like RFAs or something, you know,

2306
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:27,400
Speaker 1: they have to like tender. Maybe I don't know. He's

2307
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 1: been up and down from the practice squad. That usually

2308
01:36:29,439 --> 01:36:32,479
Speaker 1: kind of complicates things any of the big name guys.

2309
01:36:32,479 --> 01:36:34,960
Speaker 1: I like Josh Jacobs because he's only twenty six, but

2310
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 1: realistically that probably isn't a position worth worthy of high

2311
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 1: end talent. I mean, is this could this be the

2312
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 1: year to make a case to sign a veteran running back?

2313
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 1: And I know we're all kind of like, I mean,

2314
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:46,040
Speaker 1: at least Paul and I are, you know, just you

2315
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 1: draft him you use them for four years and you

2316
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:50,720
Speaker 1: flop them over and you draft someone new at the

2317
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 1: running back position. But I mean, you know, not a

2318
01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:54,719
Speaker 1: lot of like high end talent in the draft class

2319
01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 1: at least I was looking at those guys today. But

2320
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:58,640
Speaker 1: they are a lot of like good, tough, you know

2321
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:00,560
Speaker 1: running backs that seem like they come in and be

2322
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:04,560
Speaker 1: part of a platoon. But I mean there's like I

2323
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 1: just want to keep Zeke. It's like some superstars on

2324
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:08,080
Speaker 1: the list, you know that are like, I mean, Josh

2325
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 1: Jacobs is twenty six.

2326
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:11,120
Speaker 6: I'd love to keep Zeke. That's what Evan said the

2327
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 6: other day, Like some of these guys are just gonna

2328
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 6: be around because and then they're just gonna have to

2329
01:37:14,240 --> 01:37:16,559
Speaker 6: have a reality check, which is what Hapsquon and Josh

2330
01:37:16,600 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 6: Shakims this year. So there's a chance you could maybe.

2331
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:21,519
Speaker 10: Yeah, I kind of well, I don't know if I

2332
01:37:21,560 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 10: would call, like a call Sequon upgrade upgrade for Zeke

2333
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 10: just because of his injury issues, Like how much is

2334
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 10: he actually going to be available? The name is great,

2335
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 10: and I think first got into the league. Saquon is great,

2336
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:35,000
Speaker 10: But is Sequon still able to do that every single

2337
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:35,559
Speaker 10: game this year?

2338
01:37:35,760 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 4: Well?

2339
01:37:35,920 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 9: That was the question on Zeke too. When he came here.

2340
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 9: It was like, he came it's great to build himself

2341
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:41,719
Speaker 9: back up and then get paid.

2342
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 6: So just at his point, does he want to get

2343
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:46,160
Speaker 6: paid or winter ring so well?

2344
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:48,360
Speaker 1: I mean I wonder too, how if he would have

2345
01:37:48,400 --> 01:37:50,120
Speaker 1: been more effective down the stretch if you had had

2346
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:52,640
Speaker 1: a viable platoon for him and not all kind of

2347
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 1: on him. You know, it's it doesn't seem like those

2348
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:56,360
Speaker 1: days are still around for him.

2349
01:37:56,439 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 5: But that for what it's worth, the advance met are

2350
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:02,840
Speaker 5: not friendly to Zeke last year. I mean, he's one

2351
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:05,400
Speaker 5: of the probably the least efficient running backs in terms

2352
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:08,240
Speaker 5: of like breaking tackles and things like that. I just

2353
01:38:08,320 --> 01:38:11,280
Speaker 5: look at this running back free agent class and I

2354
01:38:11,680 --> 01:38:15,120
Speaker 5: wonder if the position is going to get so undervalued

2355
01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 5: by the league that all of a sudden you can

2356
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:21,000
Speaker 5: get Derrick Henry for six million months. So it's like, well,

2357
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:24,479
Speaker 5: why what don't you at that point? I mean, I

2358
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 5: would worst your towards Let's get a lightning to Remandra's thunder,

2359
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 5: so like a Tony Pollard or Austin Eckler, But like

2360
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 5: you know, whoever it ends up being. I also just

2361
01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 5: think that you can only have take so many needs

2362
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:41,639
Speaker 5: to the draft, can't. You can't wait for the draft

2363
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:44,479
Speaker 5: for everything. So if you can fill some of these

2364
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:47,479
Speaker 5: holes in free agency, and I look at running back

2365
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:49,720
Speaker 5: and tight end as two positions that you might be

2366
01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 5: able to get some quality players in.

2367
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:53,040
Speaker 1: This free agent class.

2368
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:56,720
Speaker 5: At we when we do our mock drafts, the fact

2369
01:38:56,760 --> 01:38:58,640
Speaker 5: that you have to take a tight end in a

2370
01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 5: running back at some point, it's kind of a It

2371
01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 5: kind of bogs you down a little bit. You're like,

2372
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:05,960
Speaker 5: oh crap, Like I guess I'll take this fifth round

2373
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:08,400
Speaker 5: tight end right exactly. It's like I have to throw

2374
01:39:08,479 --> 01:39:11,000
Speaker 5: in a tight end at random time in this draft

2375
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 5: right now, or you know, drafted Jatavian Sanders in the

2376
01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:16,080
Speaker 5: second round, and it's like, is that really the best

2377
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 5: thing for the team. So I wouldn't be totally opposed

2378
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:22,880
Speaker 5: to signing a running back. Obviously, I'm not paying any

2379
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:25,240
Speaker 5: running back significant money guaranteed.

2380
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:27,800
Speaker 1: But the market, you said, if the market kind of

2381
01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:31,599
Speaker 1: you know your supply and demand and nobody wore we'll

2382
01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 1: just draft you can get one of those big names

2383
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 1: that we just mentioned on a discount, I think I

2384
01:39:37,160 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 1: would probably do it a little love for Tamara here

2385
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:41,840
Speaker 1: from Alex and Raleigh. She just wanted to shout out

2386
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,720
Speaker 1: Tamara for her emotional support cup representing those of us

2387
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:49,639
Speaker 1: who have water attached to the It's excessive. How much

2388
01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 1: you girls drink water?

2389
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 4: I'm drink Excuse me.

2390
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:56,719
Speaker 1: It's the same way.

2391
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:00,600
Speaker 6: Liver is.

2392
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 1: She's just she goes to the bathroom like ten times

2393
01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 1: a day.

2394
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:06,559
Speaker 6: How do you exist?

2395
01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 9: Do you know how important being hydrated is?

2396
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 1: Don't, don't, don't.

2397
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:13,040
Speaker 10: It's good for your health, it's good for your skin,

2398
01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:16,519
Speaker 10: it's good for your hair. Like, come on, come on,

2399
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 10: you have to get it together.

2400
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:20,879
Speaker 9: This is a lot your liver to function properly.

2401
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:23,600
Speaker 1: When you can you just real quick spout out your

2402
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:24,320
Speaker 1: Starbucks order?

2403
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:29,719
Speaker 4: Usually no, no, no, he can't because it's not duncan.

2404
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:35,680
Speaker 1: Excuse me, sorry Duncan, But I was trying to make

2405
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:36,000
Speaker 1: fun of you.

2406
01:40:36,120 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 4: No no, no, no, but you need to drink more water.

2407
01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:44,600
Speaker 1: Water, So I will say, can I make up for it?

2408
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 1: I had a I had a cold brew it dunk

2409
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:48,360
Speaker 1: in this morning with the sweet cream foam, and it

2410
01:40:48,479 --> 01:40:49,280
Speaker 1: was wonderful.

2411
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 6: I had that this morning, too well done.

2412
01:40:51,200 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 1: Gives you the kick that you need. And it's not

2413
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:55,040
Speaker 1: like that Starbucks crapt it's way too much.

2414
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:57,840
Speaker 9: We can't let them know.

2415
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:00,640
Speaker 1: I've already gotten in trouble. How many pumps are in it?

2416
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:04,840
Speaker 5: I had a girl drink during a Catch twenty two.

2417
01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:07,639
Speaker 5: I had like my Starbucks cumpanyer, and I've already heard

2418
01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 5: from Kenny about how you know we're Duncan right, Okay.

2419
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 1: You're lucky, we're PEPSI too.

2420
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 4: There.

2421
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, James Skipper's got a Patriots question, Dan Skipper

2422
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:17,800
Speaker 1: what uh?

2423
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 4: Oh?

2424
01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 3: All right?

2425
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:20,560
Speaker 1: Love the show, guys, but Catch twenty two might be

2426
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:22,560
Speaker 1: beating you guys now, only because I could listen to

2427
01:41:22,680 --> 01:41:25,240
Speaker 1: Evan curse at Barth all day. It's incredible.

2428
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:30,559
Speaker 4: Listening to Evan and Barth like banter, It's incredible.

2429
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 1: It's magic. When Evan started working here and it was

2430
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:35,160
Speaker 1: like we got to figure out a way to just

2431
01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:36,760
Speaker 1: keep these two together. I mean, like, honestly, you just

2432
01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:39,800
Speaker 1: probably go back to like twenty twelve maybe, where it's

2433
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:43,519
Speaker 1: like we got Mike AsSalt from Pat's Propaganda here joining Evan,

2434
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:44,400
Speaker 1: and you.

2435
01:41:44,479 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 5: Know, like we used to do that, been doing it

2436
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 5: for so long that we just know how to push

2437
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 5: each other's buttons and we know what's going to get

2438
01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:53,360
Speaker 5: like a rise out of each other.

2439
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:56,920
Speaker 9: Where you can scream at each other and then five

2440
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:57,880
Speaker 9: minutes later be like one of.

2441
01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:01,280
Speaker 5: These Oh yeah, Like we argued about Shanahan per usual

2442
01:42:01,479 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 5: after the super Bowl and like it got pretty I

2443
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:06,920
Speaker 5: was like I might have said a few swears, like

2444
01:42:07,000 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 5: got a pretty heated, and after the show we're like, yeah,

2445
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 5: we're good, Yeah, we're good.

2446
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:12,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. We don't even like say like we're good.

2447
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:14,759
Speaker 6: It just is like, is not breaking up that friendship?

2448
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:17,840
Speaker 1: That's good foods. That's what's kind of funny too, Like

2449
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:19,920
Speaker 1: Paul's mentioned it before that you know, they have like

2450
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:22,080
Speaker 1: certain shows that not that it's ever really gotten all

2451
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:24,200
Speaker 1: that like intense, certainly between me and him, like Fred

2452
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:26,280
Speaker 1: and Paul. Sometimes they get into a little sometimes Fred

2453
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:28,479
Speaker 1: and Paul I get worried, but I do walk out

2454
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 1: that red door right there, and then it's just like,

2455
01:42:30,320 --> 01:42:32,240
Speaker 1: oh that was a good show. Yeah, good times, fun times,

2456
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:34,599
Speaker 1: you know, like you guys are crazy. But now they're

2457
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 1: they're you know and again like it's like, what are

2458
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,240
Speaker 1: you arguing about? I can't Like if I could find

2459
01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:39,800
Speaker 1: an angle to get in on this, I would try.

2460
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 1: But they're just they're experts. That's what they do.

2461
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:42,880
Speaker 8: Uh.

2462
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:45,400
Speaker 1: Good question from Joe here. I think it's a good one.

2463
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:48,240
Speaker 1: We understand that there are different avenues for the Patriots

2464
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:51,120
Speaker 1: to take regarding the number three pick, but thirty four

2465
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:54,800
Speaker 1: is not talked about enough. With the receiver tackle being

2466
01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:57,400
Speaker 1: so deep in this draft, could you see them trading

2467
01:42:57,479 --> 01:42:59,240
Speaker 1: up to the mid to late first round. If so,

2468
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 1: what would Hakaj look like?

2469
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 5: I love that question, yeah, because this is something I've

2470
01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:06,320
Speaker 5: been thinking about too. Obviously, you can't do what the

2471
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:08,639
Speaker 5: Houston Texans did because you don't have a high enough

2472
01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 5: pick to go, you know, that high up. But a

2473
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:15,880
Speaker 5: mini version of what the Texans did, I would absolutely

2474
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:18,680
Speaker 5: be all four, you know, trade up from thirty four.

2475
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:22,120
Speaker 5: I'll let's say twenty to twenty five range, and maybe

2476
01:43:22,160 --> 01:43:26,120
Speaker 5: you do get that last premium receiver, that last premium tackle.

2477
01:43:26,479 --> 01:43:27,960
Speaker 5: At the end of the day, the picks are only

2478
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 5: as good as the players they turn into. So if

2479
01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:32,799
Speaker 5: you're gonna sit there and you're gonna watch the parade

2480
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:35,599
Speaker 5: go by at receiver at tackle because you're too far

2481
01:43:35,760 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 5: out of the of the show, then.

2482
01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 1: Go up and get it. Makes me appreciate Matt Light

2483
01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:42,240
Speaker 1: because he was that's you know, that's why they took

2484
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:44,080
Speaker 1: Seymour in the first round, and they took matt Light

2485
01:43:44,280 --> 01:43:46,120
Speaker 1: at the top of the second. And you know, just

2486
01:43:46,200 --> 01:43:47,960
Speaker 1: looking at some of the tackles, which you know we

2487
01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:50,120
Speaker 1: mentioned before you've seen mock drafts, there's nine tackles in

2488
01:43:50,120 --> 01:43:51,639
Speaker 1: the first round, but even as you get down into

2489
01:43:51,640 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 1: like eight nine, like they're not sure fire day one

2490
01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 1: starters in that group. So you know, for matt Light,

2491
01:43:56,600 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 1: as you know, in different class, different year, different everything,

2492
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:01,880
Speaker 1: but still to be able to get a starter with

2493
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 1: that pick, it feels like that would make sense. If

2494
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 1: you don't think you got a starter day one at

2495
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:08,280
Speaker 1: that spot, maybe you do bump up a little bit

2496
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:10,720
Speaker 1: and just try to hit some of the the bigger.

2497
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:13,000
Speaker 5: Needs bigger we do the mock drafts, like I tackle,

2498
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:16,000
Speaker 5: you know, the top of the second round guys, or

2499
01:44:16,120 --> 01:44:19,920
Speaker 5: like Jordan Morgan from Arizona who's got shorter arms is

2500
01:44:19,960 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 5: and it doesn't have like that ideal tackle build. Patrick

2501
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:26,320
Speaker 5: Paul from Houston, who's a freak, you know, big athlete,

2502
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:28,720
Speaker 5: but is really really raw and probably isn't like a

2503
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 5: day one starter. Like these are the guys that we're

2504
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:34,960
Speaker 5: talking about. Fatanu from Washington who's also another like guard

2505
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:38,800
Speaker 5: build really that's gonna could play tackle. So maybe it

2506
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 5: is or Mims from Georgia, who basically has only started

2507
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 5: like eight games his entire collegiate career. Is does really

2508
01:44:46,960 --> 01:44:47,719
Speaker 5: really raw player.

2509
01:44:47,800 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 6: You see the video him in high school.

2510
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:51,679
Speaker 5: By the way, Oh no, he's he's a freak, don't

2511
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 5: get me wrong. But he started I think it's seven

2512
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:57,599
Speaker 5: or eight games at Georgia over the last two years,

2513
01:44:57,880 --> 01:44:59,800
Speaker 5: and then he was hurt for a good portion of

2514
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:03,400
Speaker 5: the year last year. So you're basically just going off trades,

2515
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 5: like you're this guy is big and got good feet

2516
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 5: and all that kind of stuff.

2517
01:45:07,560 --> 01:45:09,240
Speaker 1: But you're basically just going off trades.

2518
01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:12,160
Speaker 5: So you're trading up ten picks so that maybe you

2519
01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:14,160
Speaker 5: do land it, you know, somebody that's a little bit

2520
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 5: more of a sure thing.

2521
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:16,800
Speaker 1: I think makes a lot of sense. It's so crazy,

2522
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:19,640
Speaker 1: like I failing to think of a specific example, but

2523
01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 1: I'm sure you can think of one. Like just going

2524
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 1: to the combine and especially with like offensive linemen, and

2525
01:45:24,040 --> 01:45:25,600
Speaker 1: you see some of these guys walk in whereas like

2526
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:28,800
Speaker 1: you are just an absolute giant human being and then

2527
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:31,400
Speaker 1: it's like they're a total bust. You know, like the

2528
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:35,800
Speaker 1: guy's six seven three pounds and bust bust. No, he's

2529
01:45:35,880 --> 01:45:37,839
Speaker 1: like out of the again. It's just it's it's crazy.

2530
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 1: How not even when you have monumental size or you know,

2531
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 1: any of these traits like it does it never guarantees anything,

2532
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:45,639
Speaker 1: especially as that size.

2533
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:47,760
Speaker 9: It's like, how do you carry that on your frame?

2534
01:45:47,880 --> 01:45:49,680
Speaker 1: RK Now gonna go be like a regular person in

2535
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 1: the world is like six seven.

2536
01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 4: Three ring next to a guy like you remember Devandre

2537
01:45:54,160 --> 01:45:55,720
Speaker 4: Sweat from Singer Bowl.

2538
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:57,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's I mean I don't have to stand

2539
01:45:57,720 --> 01:45:58,080
Speaker 1: next to him.

2540
01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:04,559
Speaker 5: He's like he didn't want to weigh He didn't measure

2541
01:46:04,600 --> 01:46:06,519
Speaker 5: in at the Senior Bowl because he weighs. He doesn't

2542
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 5: want teams to know how much he weighs.

2543
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 1: Like three forty. I think it's gonna be.

2544
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 5: I think at the Senior Bowl he probably would have

2545
01:46:11,960 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 5: been like three sixty five.

2546
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:17,000
Speaker 4: Well we'll find out the combin Oh yeah, it's hard

2547
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 4: for their.

2548
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 9: Bodies sold to like look at a guy like like

2549
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:20,559
Speaker 9: not to take it to the NBA.

2550
01:46:20,640 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 7: But like Zion Williamson, I covered him when he was

2551
01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 7: in high school at Hoopault and like when he would

2552
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 7: come down from a dunk.

2553
01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:28,840
Speaker 9: The whole gym would just like shake and you're like,

2554
01:46:28,880 --> 01:46:30,880
Speaker 9: how do you move like that? But it only lasts

2555
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:31,360
Speaker 9: for so long.

2556
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:33,479
Speaker 6: To go to the food capital of the South all

2557
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:38,880
Speaker 6: the time. But we got to drink water, the water

2558
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:40,519
Speaker 6: drinking water.

2559
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:43,479
Speaker 5: You see it with Trent Brown, Like how many high

2560
01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:47,799
Speaker 5: quality reps can you put into a game at that size?

2561
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:49,600
Speaker 5: Like there's gonna be reps where you're gonna have to

2562
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:51,840
Speaker 5: take take a playoff like there just is. And I

2563
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 5: think in Cleveland, Dewan Jones, who we all really liked.

2564
01:46:55,439 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 5: That's I think what the Cleveland staff was starting to

2565
01:46:57,520 --> 01:47:00,240
Speaker 5: figure out about him is that he it's not that

2566
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:02,160
Speaker 5: he's lazy, he just it's a lot.

2567
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 1: It's a lot of right. So yeah, a nice email

2568
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 1: here from from our friend Claire, who I'm sure should

2569
01:47:10,200 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 1: be I haven't heard from Claire yet, but I think

2570
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:13,880
Speaker 1: she should be very excited that I that the tight

2571
01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:15,640
Speaker 1: Ends coaches went to my high school. So you know,

2572
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 1: I got a personal relationship. It's getting a lot of

2573
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 1: plays just for your Claire. Oh Will I told everybody

2574
01:47:20,280 --> 01:47:23,760
Speaker 1: I want to be super annoying about I got to

2575
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 1: get out of here. Yeah, but you know, but I

2576
01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:27,720
Speaker 1: mean it was. I mean, he was the star of

2577
01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:29,519
Speaker 1: the team. Like so imagine yourself as like an eight

2578
01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:31,720
Speaker 1: year old You're going to the high school, you know,

2579
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:33,400
Speaker 1: going to the high school football team. And this was

2580
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:34,960
Speaker 1: back in the day when you know, everybody went to

2581
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:37,680
Speaker 1: the game, especially Thanksgiving when it was Holliston West with

2582
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:39,479
Speaker 1: a whole you know, and he was the man. His

2583
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 1: dad was coaching at BC. But you know, it was

2584
01:47:41,720 --> 01:47:43,519
Speaker 1: it was crazy time because his dad was coaching at

2585
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 1: BC the same time that that Doug Flutie was happening.

2586
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:48,439
Speaker 1: So Doug Flutie won. You know, there were like spoof

2587
01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 1: songs on the radio like two d Flutie and you

2588
01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:53,400
Speaker 1: know and and and his son Bob, and Holliston was

2589
01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 1: taking them to the Super Bowl. So it's just such

2590
01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:56,960
Speaker 1: a time that's ingrained in my mind. I really don't

2591
01:47:56,960 --> 01:47:58,479
Speaker 1: know if I'd love football as much if not for

2592
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:00,760
Speaker 1: like those days, going to those games, games, and you know,

2593
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:03,160
Speaker 1: just loving the atmosphere of football and all of that

2594
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:03,760
Speaker 1: goes into it.

2595
01:48:03,880 --> 01:48:05,759
Speaker 6: So it's Letterman jacket.

2596
01:48:05,960 --> 01:48:09,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I wasn't that crazy. But but no great

2597
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:11,760
Speaker 1: guy and you know know some Holy Cross guys that

2598
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 1: went to bec and stuff. So it was cool, but anyway,

2599
01:48:13,439 --> 01:48:16,639
Speaker 1: I digress, Claire writes in just a quick off season

2600
01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:19,840
Speaker 1: kind of email. Tomorrow, I celebrate my third anniversary of

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01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 1: a Claire perspective, Bodkayer. I recorded my eighty eighth show today,

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01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:25,400
Speaker 1: and part of the reason I'm here is you, guys.

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01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:27,640
Speaker 1: I won't bore you with a huge thank you, no

2604
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:31,439
Speaker 1: smushing message, but simple appreciation to you for all this,

2605
01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 1: all this for the show and all the support for

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01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:37,680
Speaker 1: my show. Deuce was guest on my episode one. A

2607
01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:40,519
Speaker 1: massive thank you to Pu and Patination. Without you, I

2608
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:43,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't be who I am today. So congrats to Claire.

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01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:44,800
Speaker 1: And I think like when she started and I gave

2610
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:47,639
Speaker 1: her like our blogger advice, which is like just keep going,

2611
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 1: like you just have to keep going. You can't do

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01:48:50,000 --> 01:48:52,000
Speaker 1: four episodes and be like where's my deal? Like yeah,

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01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:56,040
Speaker 1: eighty eight areas. She's still grinding. And even when I

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01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:57,080
Speaker 1: I mean, Evan, you guys had a pot?

2615
01:48:57,160 --> 01:48:57,559
Speaker 6: What did you did?

2616
01:48:57,600 --> 01:49:00,679
Speaker 1: You guys? Just start you and Alex just a podcast.

2617
01:49:00,720 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 1: We have so many random names.

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01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:02,519
Speaker 3: I did.

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01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 1: I did a past propaganda and friends with Eric friends

2620
01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:07,479
Speaker 1: who was an old writer from Buyer Globe. He was

2621
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:10,240
Speaker 1: a good guy, got out of it. But it's funny

2622
01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:11,719
Speaker 1: because I look back at some of those on blog

2623
01:49:11,760 --> 01:49:13,519
Speaker 1: Talk Radio, which was like a website that came out

2624
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:15,280
Speaker 1: that you know, you basically just produce a blog from

2625
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:19,000
Speaker 1: your computer. And it's crazy because we, I mean, Greg Badar,

2626
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:21,320
Speaker 1: you know, got all the guests that we were beating

2627
01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 1: the bushes for doing the same thing that Claire was doing.

2628
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:25,240
Speaker 1: So anybody that starts this stuff, that's just what I

2629
01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:27,120
Speaker 1: tell him. You gotta stick with it, you gotta. I

2630
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:29,439
Speaker 1: mean I I think I wrote my first blog about

2631
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 1: the Patriots in December of two thousand and seven, and

2632
01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 1: I got a job here in twenty nineteen, so twelve

2633
01:49:34,960 --> 01:49:37,120
Speaker 1: years I just wrote about the Patriots on my own

2634
01:49:37,240 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 1: podcast and on my own no one telling me to

2635
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:40,920
Speaker 1: do it. I loved it, love of the game. It

2636
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:41,439
Speaker 1: takes a while.

2637
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 5: My very first podcast was in my college dorm room

2638
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 5: with my college roommates and wasn't Barth at the time somehow,

2639
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 5: but you know, that was it. And I got a

2640
01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:54,240
Speaker 5: great piece of advice from from somebody, actually, I think

2641
01:49:54,240 --> 01:49:56,840
Speaker 5: it might have been John Wallack of all people, and

2642
01:49:57,160 --> 01:49:59,799
Speaker 5: he said, you know who is your favorite Patriots?

2643
01:49:59,840 --> 01:49:59,920
Speaker 10: Right?

2644
01:50:00,320 --> 01:50:02,639
Speaker 5: And I said, Mike Grease, and he said, just act

2645
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:04,920
Speaker 5: like Mike Grease, like you're not Mike Greece, but just

2646
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:06,560
Speaker 5: like fake it till you make it. Like you know

2647
01:50:06,840 --> 01:50:09,400
Speaker 5: what he what he does, you know, watch what he does,

2648
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:12,200
Speaker 5: read what he does, and just don't steal it. But

2649
01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:14,560
Speaker 5: like just the work ethic and you know all that

2650
01:50:14,680 --> 01:50:17,320
Speaker 5: kind of stuff and just you know, follow his lead.

2651
01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:19,559
Speaker 5: And when I got on the beat, that's literally exactly

2652
01:50:19,640 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 5: what I did.

2653
01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:24,080
Speaker 1: So I'm amazed by Mike Greese's it's not competitive stamina,

2654
01:50:24,200 --> 01:50:27,439
Speaker 1: it's like professional stamina to continue to cover the team

2655
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 1: and the way that he does so thoroughly through the

2656
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:32,760
Speaker 1: ups and downs, through you know, I mean, it's you

2657
01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:34,400
Speaker 1: can feel the vibe around the team in the last

2658
01:50:34,400 --> 01:50:36,200
Speaker 1: few years when they weren't as good and it wasn't

2659
01:50:36,320 --> 01:50:37,680
Speaker 1: just this like oh my god, like you know, we

2660
01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:39,960
Speaker 1: got Tom Brady and Julian Edelman and like the fact,

2661
01:50:40,040 --> 01:50:42,000
Speaker 1: you know, parade of stars that there were to write

2662
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 1: about and anything you could kind of talk about was interesting.

2663
01:50:44,240 --> 01:50:46,639
Speaker 1: And I just that's what's been amazing to watch Mike

2664
01:50:46,720 --> 01:50:48,880
Speaker 1: over these years, and uh, you know, is just continue

2665
01:50:48,920 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 1: to do what he does even though the team isn't

2666
01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:53,920
Speaker 1: that great. He continues to be that that guy that

2667
01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 1: everybody knows that he is, and I mean just you know,

2668
01:50:56,240 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 1: so pointed with his questions and you know, smart about it,

2669
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 1: always respect full of Bill. I think we all kind

2670
01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:03,439
Speaker 1: of feel bad when Bill would kind of like, you know,

2671
01:51:03,479 --> 01:51:05,759
Speaker 1: it's like my grease, Bill, come on, it's he's delicately

2672
01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:07,439
Speaker 1: trying to ask you this stuff and I don't know,

2673
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, blowing off Mike. But but true professional and

2674
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:13,320
Speaker 1: great advice. But still I would say, plenty of room

2675
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 1: to cover the team your way, you know, and that's

2676
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:18,080
Speaker 1: what's yeah of yourself.

2677
01:51:18,240 --> 01:51:20,560
Speaker 5: The way that he like the it was more just

2678
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:23,760
Speaker 5: you know, the professionalism that he went about it. I

2679
01:51:23,880 --> 01:51:25,640
Speaker 5: think that stood out to me because him and I

2680
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 5: probably covered the team pretty differently, honestly, but it just

2681
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:35,120
Speaker 5: his professionalism, his work ethic, and he's at everything, you know,

2682
01:51:35,439 --> 01:51:38,080
Speaker 5: and everything. I feel like that's a big part of

2683
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:40,560
Speaker 5: it too. When you first are starting out, you have

2684
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:44,080
Speaker 5: to you have to be on the scene for every

2685
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:46,880
Speaker 5: little like there's no training camp practice that's too big,

2686
01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 5: you know.

2687
01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:50,439
Speaker 1: So and was a writer here first was you know,

2688
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:52,760
Speaker 1: it was crazy to me Fred. Imagine if Fred the

2689
01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:54,600
Speaker 1: early starmaker that that Fred was.

2690
01:51:56,200 --> 01:51:56,400
Speaker 3: Matt.

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01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,320
Speaker 1: There was an an email here Bet. Big mistake last Thursday.

2692
01:51:59,760 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 1: Big mistake by Matt. One of the trivia questions who

2693
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:04,639
Speaker 1: was scored? Who scored the first touchdown in Super Bowl

2694
01:52:04,680 --> 01:52:06,840
Speaker 1: forty nine? Matt said it was Gronk. In fact, it

2695
01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:08,679
Speaker 1: was bringing problem with the trivia questions.

2696
01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:11,360
Speaker 6: Hold on, hold on, It wasn't first touchdown, it was

2697
01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:13,760
Speaker 6: first who caught the first pass of Super forty nine?

2698
01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:16,519
Speaker 1: Oh all right, well, just Ron Burgundy.

2699
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 6: I read what's in front of me.

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01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:22,679
Speaker 1: I'm Matt Morrel, Ricky and Connecticut just chimes in. There's

2701
01:52:22,720 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 1: no such thing as blowing the swings. It's a tender.

2702
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 9: Wow, thank you, thank you, sir.

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01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:30,519
Speaker 1: Oh No, Chris Cassidy got a bad tender the other day, Harret.

2704
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:34,560
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, there's a difference. But we don't have

2705
01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:37,240
Speaker 1: time to do this. No, but once you get a

2706
01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:39,160
Speaker 1: bad tender, I mean we as everybody had a bad

2707
01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:41,479
Speaker 1: chicken McNugget. I don't want not the McDonald's guy, but

2708
01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:43,520
Speaker 1: everybody's had a bad chicken McNugget.

2709
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:45,840
Speaker 4: Right back in the day before it was all white meat. Yes,

2710
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:47,200
Speaker 4: do you remember that?

2711
01:52:47,320 --> 01:52:47,960
Speaker 6: I used to think that.

2712
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:50,120
Speaker 1: Remember there's like one that's kind of shaped like a fish.

2713
01:52:50,160 --> 01:52:52,400
Speaker 1: And remember, I mean, I'm sure bring the.

2714
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 4: Chicken. The Chicken selects were fire.

2715
01:52:57,680 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 1: The rectangles fire. The rectangles were.

2716
01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 9: The no one scared me, the ones that are stuck together.

2717
01:53:04,479 --> 01:53:09,000
Speaker 4: There was nothing better than Chicken select. Chicken Selects were ten.

2718
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:10,800
Speaker 1: Out of ten McDonald's fries to hold up.

2719
01:53:11,240 --> 01:53:14,040
Speaker 9: Sure, still great, They're not as good as they used

2720
01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 9: to be. Do you have the McDonald's and Germany fries,

2721
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:18,759
Speaker 9: those chili cheesebergs.

2722
01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:21,120
Speaker 1: Well, not all of us could go to McDonald's in Germany.

2723
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:24,040
Speaker 1: What did they have there? I'm just kidding. You've told

2724
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 1: me everything. Five guys, everything you could ever want. That

2725
01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:28,920
Speaker 1: guys saved my life in Germany.

2726
01:53:29,040 --> 01:53:30,360
Speaker 6: Like I was just in such a bad place.

2727
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:33,200
Speaker 1: I was so jet lagged, and like you didn't want

2728
01:53:33,240 --> 01:53:36,960
Speaker 1: the breakfast and I wanted like just an ice drink like.

2729
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 9: Sara.

2730
01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 6: We didn't get to go.

2731
01:53:44,680 --> 01:53:45,320
Speaker 9: I went twice.

2732
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:48,200
Speaker 6: Evan and I were looking for some brats and the

2733
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:50,960
Speaker 6: lady was like, there's this old German lady who like

2734
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 6: makes homemade brought worse and we couldn't find her.

2735
01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 9: The problems is a lot of those places are cash only, and.

2736
01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:57,920
Speaker 6: You always leave something to go back for.

2737
01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:00,600
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. I'm it will be that.

2738
01:54:02,160 --> 01:54:02,400
Speaker 6: Maybe.

2739
01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:07,640
Speaker 9: Sorry, sorry, Brazil, we're going to get We're going to

2740
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 9: have just.

2741
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:15,600
Speaker 1: Skater quick one from Tyler D and n y C.

2742
01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 6: Why is it called special teams?

2743
01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:18,840
Speaker 10: Is that?

2744
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:20,599
Speaker 4: Is that a real question?

2745
01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:22,040
Speaker 1: I like philosophical questions.

2746
01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:25,000
Speaker 10: I don't know that that type of question could get

2747
01:54:25,240 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 10: a twenty minute response from Bill.

2748
01:54:27,080 --> 01:54:27,800
Speaker 4: A special team?

2749
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:34,120
Speaker 1: Right, Well, it's specialists, special list for specialists or special teams.

2750
01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:39,800
Speaker 1: Well that's a twenty minute answer from Bill. Why are

2751
01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 1: we special? What's so special about it? I don't get it.

2752
01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:43,640
Speaker 6: It takes special skills to play on specialty?

2753
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 4: Can you just google this?

2754
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:46,800
Speaker 1: That's the kind of and that's the answer.

2755
01:54:48,040 --> 01:54:53,280
Speaker 6: It's from the It's from West Virginia News. Okay, right uh.

2756
01:54:53,880 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 1: Kendall just says a big fan of the show. I'm here.

2757
01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:57,520
Speaker 1: You guys will be at the combine. I will also

2758
01:54:57,600 --> 01:54:59,480
Speaker 1: be there as part of the scouting course I take,

2759
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:01,480
Speaker 1: and I hope to get up with you guys and

2760
01:55:01,560 --> 01:55:03,840
Speaker 1: get a picture. Kendall, We would all be happy to

2761
01:55:03,960 --> 01:55:05,960
Speaker 1: take a picture with you, and and Evan will probably

2762
01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 1: ask you questions about your scouting.

2763
01:55:07,080 --> 01:55:11,480
Speaker 27: Course early for you I was gonna say I've taken

2764
01:55:11,720 --> 01:55:15,200
Speaker 27: I've taken some courses in my day, so I.

2765
01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:17,600
Speaker 4: Was gonna say a scouting course. That sounds like just

2766
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:20,360
Speaker 4: like you, Evan, I won't say that.

2767
01:55:20,520 --> 01:55:22,960
Speaker 1: Never mind, you're gonna go to the UH should go

2768
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:25,360
Speaker 1: to the coaches thing in early March, the clinic.

2769
01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:28,919
Speaker 5: I have wanted to go to that now, especially the coordinators.

2770
01:55:28,960 --> 01:55:30,960
Speaker 5: I think we're talking at it the Pictriots coordinators, so

2771
01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:35,080
Speaker 5: that'd be cool. Yeah, I've done some of those scouting courses.

2772
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:38,120
Speaker 5: They're they're good if you like are just start really

2773
01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:40,600
Speaker 5: just starting to to try to learn the game.

2774
01:55:40,840 --> 01:55:45,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, good stuff. I don't know you guys. I tried

2775
01:55:45,720 --> 01:55:47,120
Speaker 1: to get through all these emails, and I think I

2776
01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:49,320
Speaker 1: got through most of them. Some some real draft minutia,

2777
01:55:50,240 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 1: which you know, as everybody's got their opinions on Drake

2778
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:55,760
Speaker 1: may and and Jade and Daniels and all that. But

2779
01:55:55,840 --> 01:55:57,200
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take the last part of this one

2780
01:55:57,200 --> 01:55:59,920
Speaker 1: from Jonah. How many tackles does Hi Tower having training camp?

2781
01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:02,080
Speaker 1: How many times will Mayo have to tell him not

2782
01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:03,560
Speaker 1: to try and suit up during the season?

2783
01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:07,760
Speaker 9: He looked like, yes, and I were talking about this.

2784
01:56:10,200 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 9: The Crisp Patriots, you can tell you.

2785
01:56:13,000 --> 01:56:15,040
Speaker 5: And he said that he had just come from a workout,

2786
01:56:15,160 --> 01:56:17,920
Speaker 5: like he was like sweat still like dripping down his face,

2787
01:56:17,960 --> 01:56:19,880
Speaker 5: and I was like, dude, you know that you're not playing.

2788
01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:23,160
Speaker 1: It was like it was the same old high tower

2789
01:56:23,240 --> 01:56:25,640
Speaker 1: that I always remember would like peek through the door

2790
01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:26,960
Speaker 1: at the end of the locker room and see the

2791
01:56:27,040 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 1: media was in there and be like nope.

2792
01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:32,480
Speaker 5: It's so funny because I when I talked to him

2793
01:56:32,520 --> 01:56:34,360
Speaker 5: for the Mayo thing, I was like, you're like really

2794
01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:36,839
Speaker 5: good at this, Like you're good at and Jamie Collins

2795
01:56:36,960 --> 01:56:39,120
Speaker 5: was really good for that as well. And those two

2796
01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:41,440
Speaker 5: guys used to dodge us like like no other. And

2797
01:56:41,520 --> 01:56:43,920
Speaker 5: I was like, but you're good at it. You're really

2798
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:46,440
Speaker 5: good at telling stories and stuff. I don't know why

2799
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:48,120
Speaker 5: you guys hated talking to us so much.

2800
01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:50,000
Speaker 1: It's cool having him back. I mean, it's just again

2801
01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:52,320
Speaker 1: it just goes to just the broad array of coaches

2802
01:56:52,360 --> 01:56:54,040
Speaker 1: that they've come in. I mean, it's just it's it's

2803
01:56:54,040 --> 01:56:55,360
Speaker 1: a lot to take in. I mean, I feel like

2804
01:56:55,400 --> 01:56:57,360
Speaker 1: as a content team, there's probably a lot of stories

2805
01:56:57,400 --> 01:56:59,840
Speaker 1: that we could probably you know, find amongst these guys.

2806
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:02,080
Speaker 1: But you know, one last thing I'll say is as

2807
01:57:02,080 --> 01:57:03,600
Speaker 1: we get ready to wrap up here was I thought

2808
01:57:03,600 --> 01:57:06,040
Speaker 1: it was interesting Drew yesterday, saying, like I'm a first

2809
01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:08,480
Speaker 1: year head coach, like not everybody gets the staff right

2810
01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:10,040
Speaker 1: on the first try, and we're just going to kind

2811
01:57:10,040 --> 01:57:11,640
Speaker 1: of go with it. Like I kind of liked how

2812
01:57:11,680 --> 01:57:13,600
Speaker 1: we at least acknowledge, like, you know, there was a

2813
01:57:13,680 --> 01:57:16,080
Speaker 1: lot of moving pieces this offseason, and I mean he

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Speaker 1: hired something around twenty new guys that are all coming

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Speaker 1: in with various backgrounds, and it's you know, going to

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Speaker 1: be his job to pull all these guys together and

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Speaker 1: you know, try to find a central you know, string

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Speaker 1: to bring what's our team going to be, what's our philosophy.

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Speaker 1: But just my last thought was, you know, coming out

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Speaker 1: of those meetings, it's like, if I was a player,

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Speaker 1: seem like they know how to you know, push some

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Speaker 1: of the day, for as prickly as Bill was, you

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Speaker 1: want to win, and that's what That's what the bottom

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Speaker 9: That's the thing.

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Speaker 7: It's like it's like with a parent, you don't necessarily

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Speaker 9: Want them to be too strict. Like there's that fine balance, right, dude.

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Speaker 1: That really hit home for dude. I'm not going to

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Speaker 9: We don't need to delve into the childhood Trump and

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Speaker 1: No, I have pet peeve that people are like, I,

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Speaker 9: Just a quick shout out shot where you wrap up.

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