Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: and Bill Jones, and a happy Monday to you after
Speaker 1: another victory over the Washington Redskins thirty one twenty one
Speaker 1: on Sunday. It is a victory Monday here at the
Speaker 1: Star in Frisco, and the Cowboys are two and oh
Speaker 1: going on three and oh going on four nights. Stop
Speaker 1: it stop, we can't go there. Yep. You've got to
Speaker 1: stay with well, stay with today, Okay, get better today
Speaker 1: day by day by day. That's right. But there's a
Speaker 1: lot of news to get to, not only with this
Speaker 1: football team, but around the league as we get started
Speaker 1: on this Monday morning. That was your weekends. Great. It's
Speaker 1: always good when the Cowboys come away with a victory
Speaker 1: on Sunday and you get home by nine o'clock at
Speaker 1: home early, get your work done. Yeah, good stuff. Division
Speaker 1: Game two and oh that's right. You put the Redskins
Speaker 1: in a big hole now all alone in first place
Speaker 1: in the NFC East, Right, you go just kind of
Speaker 1: keep going, find a way, keep winning. Ye, get ahead
Speaker 1: of yourself. That's right exactly. I think people might be now,
Speaker 1: Oh you think a little bit, you're seeing it. If
Speaker 1: you've got two Twitter followers, you'd figure that out by now,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Sixteen and oh here we come,
Speaker 1: well for sure, three and oh here we come. Well
Speaker 1: there's that floating around. And now you got Drew Brees
Speaker 1: in two weeks who's out for New Orleans? And yeah,
Speaker 1: people are starting to look way ahead. So Jason Garrett's
Speaker 1: got a message he's got to give if he thinks
Speaker 1: the players need it. Yeah, And I think this is
Speaker 1: a veteran enough team now, and they are. It's so
Speaker 1: recently in their past that they were sitting there at
Speaker 1: three and five last year that I think that he
Speaker 1: doesn't have to give that message. And that's why, as
Speaker 1: he said this morning, you just worry about yourself, so
Speaker 1: you can worry about anything else. You worry about yourself.
Speaker 1: But to bring you up to speed on what Rob
Speaker 1: alluded to, Drew Brees has the ligament damage in his
Speaker 1: right thumb and he's out at least the next six weeks,
Speaker 1: which obviously puts him out two weeks from last night,
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys will head to New Orleans. Be in
Speaker 1: New Orleans to play the Saints. And the other breaking
Speaker 1: news around the NFL right now is Ben Roethlisberger is
Speaker 1: out for the year. He needs elbow surgery. I got
Speaker 1: Tommy John type of a situation. Go ye, so be
Speaker 1: thankful that you have come out of the week two
Speaker 1: game in relatively good health. But let's I guess start
Speaker 1: there with the Antoine Woods. What do we medio collateral ligament?
Speaker 1: And they'll have an MRI today to see just how
Speaker 1: serious it is. But normally when you hear that, it's
Speaker 1: two to four weeks, usually closer to four. So Christian Covington,
Speaker 1: here you go. Yeah, and they're also waiting to an
Speaker 1: MRI on Michael Gallop. Yeah, you know, so haven't heard
Speaker 1: anything about that. This morning. When I did, I was
Speaker 1: down in the breakfast area and he walked in. He
Speaker 1: looked like he was walking fine. He was fine. He
Speaker 1: sat in front of me on the bus last night
Speaker 1: from going to the airport and he hopped off the
Speaker 1: bus and walked to the airport. So a lot of
Speaker 1: times if you're long as you're going straight with mcl
Speaker 1: you're great. Yeah, it's when you get a cut. So
Speaker 1: we'll see where that one is. Christy uh Scales from
Speaker 1: the sidelines. I guess maybe it was a helmet that
Speaker 1: bumped his kneel axcusion. Yeah, yeah, and they you know
Speaker 1: it late in the game. They weren't the game was
Speaker 1: in hand for the most part. You know, Tyrone Crawford's
Speaker 1: another guy too that played limited snaps in the second half.
Speaker 1: He's dealing with that hip still, and so they were,
Speaker 1: you know, Robert Quinn's coming back at a good time
Speaker 1: because you know, we'll see how Tyrone goes through this week,
Speaker 1: and obviously Antoine's status. They were trying to shuffle things
Speaker 1: around in the defensive line, with Carrie Hyder moving inside,
Speaker 1: Dorn's Armstrong playing some more ends. So it's nice to
Speaker 1: have a veteran rusher coming back off suspension this week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's funny. I talk about one of the great things
Speaker 1: about living here what we do, is that I got
Speaker 1: to see Robert Quinn walk in. He had his shoulder
Speaker 1: pads and helmet in his hand. He was like he
Speaker 1: was carrying him. I said, that's an unusual briefcase you
Speaker 1: had there, and he goes, oh yeah, he just but
Speaker 1: to me, that's one of those things where you're thinking, well,
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn took his pads with him, you know, in
Speaker 1: the time that he was off that he was trying
Speaker 1: to get in some conditions. It's like we've talked about
Speaker 1: with Sean Lee in the past. You know, Sean Lee
Speaker 1: always goes out there and works out in full pads
Speaker 1: when you know he's doing the chords or something like that.
Speaker 1: So Robert Quinn said, you know what, I'm gonna probably
Speaker 1: take my pads home with me in practice a little
Speaker 1: bit and you know, try and get himself in condition
Speaker 1: with the heat and things like that around here. Because
Speaker 1: the nature of that suspension, he wasn't allowed to be
Speaker 1: allowed to be around the coaches, couldn't be in touch
Speaker 1: with and the trading staff could or the medical people
Speaker 1: because of his hand. So maybe he also took him
Speaker 1: to Cabo with him. What do you think pats he
Speaker 1: had him in hand? I said, that's an unusual briefcase
Speaker 1: to travel with. He says, everywhere I go, I take these,
Speaker 1: So that's kind of his thing. Yeah, interesting, and well,
Speaker 1: it's been plenty of hot around here. He could he
Speaker 1: can get in great shape. Absolutely, I was. I was
Speaker 1: at least told that the hand is should be fine,
Speaker 1: that should not be a problem, and it's a matter
Speaker 1: of conditioning and knowing him. They feel like he'll be
Speaker 1: ready to go. All right, Well, we got plenty of
Speaker 1: time this week to talk about these oh and two
Speaker 1: Dolphins who have been outscored by well one hundred and
Speaker 1: two to ten their first two games. Yeah, and that's ties,
Speaker 1: I believe in NFL record for two games for two games,
Speaker 1: does it really? I'm not sure if it's the first
Speaker 1: two games of the season or any two games back
Speaker 1: to back. I mean, it's just so unusual in the
Speaker 1: NFL to have that situation going on. So plenty of
Speaker 1: time to talk about that. Let's talk about what happened
Speaker 1: on Sunday and go around the horn here. What were
Speaker 1: your big impressions from Sunday? Brian Tee? You what I
Speaker 1: you know, I thought the pass protection was outstanding in
Speaker 1: this game, uh, you know, because I felt like that
Speaker 1: one of the chances that the Redskin had was you know,
Speaker 1: we said, oh they got to stop the cows, got
Speaker 1: to stop the run. But the pass rush or the
Speaker 1: lack of it for the Redskins I thought was a
Speaker 1: big part of this game. And then really the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were the ones that did it to him. You know,
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick being back in the middle has really solidified
Speaker 1: things up front. Connor Williams wasn't as bad as everybody
Speaker 1: thought he might have been. He got beat on the
Speaker 1: sack and it was bad, but you know, it wasn't
Speaker 1: a terrible game for him overall. I mean, you grade
Speaker 1: with lineman, you have to grade all the plays, and
Speaker 1: he had a couple of where he was really questionable.
Speaker 1: But other than that, NFL like he played okay. Tyrn
Speaker 1: Smith was outstanding next to him, and then Lyle Collins
Speaker 1: having to deal with Ryan Carrigan, I thought did a
Speaker 1: really nice job handling that situation as well. So you know,
Speaker 1: give give that group a lot of credit for the
Speaker 1: success they've had. You know, Dak Prescott way, he's getting
Speaker 1: the ball out of his hand getting to these receivers.
Speaker 1: But that offensive line did a good job playing against
Speaker 1: a front that has much better pass rushers than what
Speaker 1: they faced last week. Brian's right, it starts up front.
Speaker 1: You know, at the one sack Dak Gott he blamed
Speaker 1: himself for it, and so overall pass protection really good
Speaker 1: for me. It's a mix of kind of new and
Speaker 1: old with this offense. You know, they have so much
Speaker 1: dangerous options at their receiving corps, and they're tight ends
Speaker 1: as well, guys that can really stretch the field. They're
Speaker 1: testing guys deep. But it's also a familiar sight when
Speaker 1: you see Ezekiel Ellie get back to what he's doing best.
Speaker 1: And I thought that fifteen yard run he hadn't. I
Speaker 1: think it was the series where Dak got picked off,
Speaker 1: was like, okay, that's a that's a Zeke run. He's
Speaker 1: back carrying two guys with him. And then that last
Speaker 1: touchdown drive they had where they chewed up six minutes.
Speaker 1: He touches the ball five times in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: they go up thirty one fourteen, and they're just wearing
Speaker 1: teams down. That's that's their identity. In addition to all
Speaker 1: these uh sky wars whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 1: Mick absolutely skywars. Because you've got so many receivers that
Speaker 1: are capable of playing in this game. You sit there
Speaker 1: and say, okay, I'm gonna takeaway Amari Cooper, all right,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do with gallop and if you're
Speaker 1: gonna try to double both of the outside guys, Randall
Speaker 1: Cobble carve you up inside. And oh, if somebody needs
Speaker 1: a break, Devin Smith here I am, after going through
Speaker 1: two and a half years of trying to recover from
Speaker 1: two torn acls on the same knee, comes out and
Speaker 1: shows not only can he still run and get deep
Speaker 1: Josh Norman, by the way, you ought to worry about
Speaker 1: yourself more than the imposing quarterback. Maybe he can also
Speaker 1: run slant passes. And he's a pretty dire and good receiver.
Speaker 1: So when you can bring in a guy like that
Speaker 1: as your fourth guy with Tavan Austin out, you've got
Speaker 1: so many ingredients on offense that you can hurt teams with,
Speaker 1: not to mention what Rob said about also being able
Speaker 1: to run the ball. So yeah, it's it's interesting because
Speaker 1: it seemed like from the beginning the Redskins were like, no, Zeke,
Speaker 1: you're not going to beat us. And then they finally
Speaker 1: got it going after that interception throwing the football, then
Speaker 1: run in the football and as Brian said, the offensive
Speaker 1: line in two games now is Dack's only been sacked
Speaker 1: one time after fifty six snack sacks last year. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well you also got to give the defense a lot
Speaker 1: of credit too for getting off the field on third
Speaker 1: down too. Yeah. I went back and watched all the
Speaker 1: third down plays, just back to back to back, and
Speaker 1: a lot of the key plays to Woods and also
Speaker 1: the plays that he makes. Byron Jones, the tackle he
Speaker 1: made vander esh on the third down play too on
Speaker 1: the outside when they threw it to Thompson and he's
Speaker 1: running in the flat. You know, those are big, huge plays,
Speaker 1: you know to get off the field. You mean, you've
Speaker 1: got it. A lot of those are just one on
Speaker 1: one plays. I mean that Byron Jones play where they
Speaker 1: throw the ball to Richardson and their drag, I mean
Speaker 1: he's picked, he's clearly picked, and he fights through the
Speaker 1: pick and it's really not even his man. He goes
Speaker 1: all the way across the field and to make this
Speaker 1: tackle and really hold the tackle from no game. When
Speaker 1: Richardson caught that ball, I thought, oh, this is gonna
Speaker 1: be a first down, but he was able to run
Speaker 1: over there and make the tackle and actually hold them
Speaker 1: to no game. So you know, give Byron Jones all
Speaker 1: the create, but give the third down defense, whether they're
Speaker 1: playing nickel, where they're playing dime, give them a lot
Speaker 1: of credit for the way that they've handled themselves, at
Speaker 1: least these last two weeks, four of twenty on third down,
Speaker 1: these first two said that on the final Yeah, the
Speaker 1: final takes right, yeah, which the two of na yeah,
Speaker 1: two of nine. Washington was in this game, And every
Speaker 1: morning I get up, I perused the mail bag, and
Speaker 1: I send Brian a couple of questions, and it's usually
Speaker 1: kind of you know, what's what's wrong? What's wrong? And
Speaker 1: I think the fans are they want to see a
Speaker 1: little bit more from the defense, but the defense, these
Speaker 1: guys want to see more from themselves as well. But
Speaker 1: if you really go back and look at it, they're
Speaker 1: not allowing much. You know, it was a late touchdown
Speaker 1: drive by Washington. Mick pointed out to me on the
Speaker 1: plane before that drive. I mean, they're under two hundred
Speaker 1: total yards. They're they're doing a nice job, and they
Speaker 1: gave up some plays early, but I think they settled
Speaker 1: down and did a nice job defensively. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know what they're doing on those those those last touchdown
Speaker 1: drives and games at the end, you don't want anything
Speaker 1: going over the top, but you can't give up that
Speaker 1: much space. But as Rob said, I think I've figured
Speaker 1: out up until that touchdown drive, they had given up
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty five yards fourteen points. Take that
Speaker 1: every day every week, especially when your offense is pushed
Speaker 1: thirty plus and you know, and you know, and yeah,
Speaker 1: they went down and scored early, but they kind of
Speaker 1: settled down and they got to stop the run. You know,
Speaker 1: Peterson had one good series, that first one, and then
Speaker 1: after that they basically shut him down. I felt like
Speaker 1: that the only chance at Washington really had winning this
Speaker 1: game was maybe to shorten it, you know, and then
Speaker 1: try and but I talked to somebody on Saturday around
Speaker 1: the league, and they said, Jay Green's not smart enough
Speaker 1: to shorten the game. You know, it blatantly sets it. Well,
Speaker 1: this is why, Because what's your thought for this game?
Speaker 1: I said, I think Jay Green short you gaus, Green's
Speaker 1: not smart enough to shorten this game. And so I'm thinking, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe not. But yeah, they did a great job. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, when you talk about the linebackers, the fits,
Speaker 1: you know, you guys had a chance to visit with
Speaker 1: with Chris Rashard and he was talking about run fit,
Speaker 1: gap control, all that stuff. That's that's how you need
Speaker 1: to play run defense. And they did a really nice job.
Speaker 1: I think the tone was set very early in that
Speaker 1: game with Malie Collins getting up the field the way
Speaker 1: he did, you know, beating the block of the center
Speaker 1: and then getting in the backfield and making a minus
Speaker 1: four on the carry. So it kind of it kind
Speaker 1: of got everybody going, Okay, we're here to play run
Speaker 1: defense today, and that was that was a big key
Speaker 1: for them, see and they and they didn't and they
Speaker 1: didn't make it a pro already going forward because they
Speaker 1: were in three wide receiver basically every stap, every snap,
Speaker 1: and so that's where you want to play, Okay, fine, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then that minimized having Adrian Peterson in the game
Speaker 1: because they went with Thompson and what was the other wood, Smallwood? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, and then they started handing it off to
Speaker 1: wide receivers and you know it's like, okay, fine, go ahead,
Speaker 1: be cute. Well and that's uh, I guess that they
Speaker 1: feel like that's their calling card in Jay Gruden's offense,
Speaker 1: is not to establish the run. And you know, I
Speaker 1: don't quite maybe I'm too old school about this, but
Speaker 1: I felt like that the Cowboys did a great job,
Speaker 1: you know, and you handing the ball twenty three times
Speaker 1: to Ezekiel for one hundred and eleven yards. That's great
Speaker 1: football to me right there. And I like the way
Speaker 1: they finished the game, that's and and the fact that
Speaker 1: there was it was a point in that game where
Speaker 1: they took him out basically a whole series and put
Speaker 1: third and put Pollard in there. And now what do
Speaker 1: you got. Now you get a fresher is Ekiel Elliott.
Speaker 1: If you're having to make those runs, if you're having
Speaker 1: to get those tough yards, if you're having to grind
Speaker 1: out first downs, He's a fresher player for it. And
Speaker 1: you know, I'm all for them. And you know, I
Speaker 1: understand people the sky wars offense and all that. I
Speaker 1: get that, and I say that tongue in cheek with Mickey,
Speaker 1: but you know, to me, football is about taking your
Speaker 1: will and imposing it on the other team, you know,
Speaker 1: offensively and defensively. And this team, as well as they're
Speaker 1: throwing the ball here with all these weapons, they're still
Speaker 1: the ability to run the football and run it effectively.
Speaker 1: I think we'll pay dividends down the road, they're going
Speaker 1: to get in some games where it's not going to
Speaker 1: be a double digit lead and they're going to have
Speaker 1: to grind it out on the end. And ezekielt doing that.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's worth every penny to me when it
Speaker 1: comes to that type of play. If I can get
Speaker 1: that from him, If I get one hundred eleven yards
Speaker 1: on twenty three carries every week, by god, I'm it's
Speaker 1: worth every dime that I just spent, you know. And
Speaker 1: they ran it successfully without hardly using the fullback. I
Speaker 1: think O Wally played eight plays right with not doing
Speaker 1: much too tight end. They were running the ball out
Speaker 1: of three wide receivers and then they they they you know,
Speaker 1: if you want to start overloading, Okay, here comes the
Speaker 1: end around with Randall Cobb and oh don't forget Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott can still run the ball too. So it's like
Speaker 1: I surprised the guys this morning. And when they were
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, this new cowboy offense slinging it around,
Speaker 1: I said, so you're going to be surprised that they
Speaker 1: threw the ball thirty times and rand the ball thirty
Speaker 1: four times. Right, It wasn't like everything was just zipping
Speaker 1: the ball around. They were being very judicious on what
Speaker 1: they did. This is very much Cowboys at the team
Speaker 1: that Mickey covered in the nineties. And trust me, I
Speaker 1: was on the other end of the field when when
Speaker 1: you have so many weapons you have to defend and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, now the defense is not
Speaker 1: as good. I don't think as the defense STIPs in
Speaker 1: the nineties. I think it has possibilities to be as good,
Speaker 1: but it's not right now. But you're talking about how
Speaker 1: you build a lead and then finished games, and that's
Speaker 1: what they've been able to do. They finished those They
Speaker 1: finished these games, especially this last game, running the football,
Speaker 1: being physical and then just kind of wearing the redskins
Speaker 1: out and that's what they did. How many times if
Speaker 1: we've seen them do that with Zeke? I mean he
Speaker 1: said it after the game, step on their throat and
Speaker 1: running backs coach Gary Brown went to him in the
Speaker 1: third quarter and said, we need you fresh for the fourth.
Speaker 1: There's no question, you know, nice job, and probably he
Speaker 1: should have scored a touchdown. Yeah, you know, nice because okay,
Speaker 1: that whole enough, that whole stuff. But anyway, they between
Speaker 1: the tackles, it was a nice run. They drove the
Speaker 1: field with Pollard in there, I mean, they went didn't
Speaker 1: almost like they didn't miss a beat. He did a
Speaker 1: nice job. And one of the key drives of the
Speaker 1: game was the four minute offense, which you're talking about
Speaker 1: right at the end of the first half, right where
Speaker 1: it's a seven seven game and they're getting the ball
Speaker 1: to start the second half even better. Yeah, and that
Speaker 1: game was playing out to that point the way, even
Speaker 1: if it may have been by accident for the Redskins,
Speaker 1: it may not have been their plan, but it was
Speaker 1: playing out the way you suggested that that was their
Speaker 1: best chance of winning the game, right, And because the
Speaker 1: Cowboys offense was not clicking or early in the game.
Speaker 1: Give credit to the red Skins for sure for that too.
Speaker 1: But they all right, so it's a seven seven game
Speaker 1: and with they get the ball with four and a
Speaker 1: half minutes left and a half and I'm counting the
Speaker 1: Zeke runs. It was Zeke plus two is incompleted. It
Speaker 1: was a big third down conversion to Cobb Zeke plus
Speaker 1: one and he's not getting a lot of yards, but
Speaker 1: they're establishing Zeke Okay Cooper for eight and dak at
Speaker 1: the forty two yard run. Now you got Zeke for nine,
Speaker 1: Zeke for one, you got Zeke for another one, whatever,
Speaker 1: And but you're handing him the ball exactly, and then
Speaker 1: they have to respect that, right, you know, right right,
Speaker 1: And so I just think that was that and again
Speaker 1: getting the ball and being able to drive the length
Speaker 1: of the field once again to start the second half
Speaker 1: and ninety seven yard drive though I mean not before
Speaker 1: the halt the first half. Yeah, they get they get
Speaker 1: punted down to their own end. They have a penalty
Speaker 1: that takes them all the way back to what the
Speaker 1: five yard line, and then they have to come off
Speaker 1: the goal line and they're just trying to get first downs.
Speaker 1: But then they're here, they are, you know, they just
Speaker 1: hit some big plays. This this this offense is just
Speaker 1: so hard to deal with, especially if the ball is
Speaker 1: coming out of the quarterback's hands that fast. You know,
Speaker 1: that's that's something that I think you have to you know,
Speaker 1: with Prescott, he's seeing the field ball coming out of
Speaker 1: his hand, Receivers getting open. Give Killing Moore a lot
Speaker 1: of credit for this too, and Sanjay Lyle for the
Speaker 1: way that they get in these combinations of these routes,
Speaker 1: the way that they're running the curls their way. They're
Speaker 1: running the slants the way their play action game gets
Speaker 1: the ball out of their hands quick and before the
Speaker 1: defense has a chance to even react. They had the
Speaker 1: Redskins on their heels really. Uh, you know that until
Speaker 1: after the interception. I mean the Redskins were really, really
Speaker 1: real and playing defense yesterday and even on the on
Speaker 1: the goal line when they scored on that drive the
Speaker 1: past to Witten. That was one of the few times
Speaker 1: they lined up with two tight ends. Uh. And they
Speaker 1: and they had two guys manning up on Jarwin and Witten,
Speaker 1: and Jarwin just ran between him. The guy on, Charles
Speaker 1: Davis said, Oh, it was a natural pick. He didn't
Speaker 1: pick anybody. He just went straight between him and Whitton
Speaker 1: cuts on behind and the linebacker couldn't get out there well,
Speaker 1: and the rookie linebacker Holcomb was on him. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I'm taking Whitton in that matchup. It's good.
Speaker 1: That's good. He's probably never seen it. Well. The ball,
Speaker 1: the ball was in a perfect spots. Yeah, that ball
Speaker 1: was right where it needed to be there. Whitton had
Speaker 1: to make no adjustments other than putting his hands out
Speaker 1: and reliably catching it. In and getting in the ends.
Speaker 1: I mean, you realize he completed eighty six percent of
Speaker 1: his passes eighteen straight. At one point, the record was
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, twenty one. But Wheaton's they think was
Speaker 1: over two games or yeah, maybe he played three more
Speaker 1: games than that. I mean, how many throws can you
Speaker 1: say he's made that he's just missed? Waitings were five
Speaker 1: yard dump offs? Did you ask Gallop what happened? Did
Speaker 1: you get a chance to talk to him? Did you
Speaker 1: ask him? Well, but I heard what I I heard
Speaker 1: what Jason Garrett explained it a little bit, talking about
Speaker 1: down the left side. Yeah, and the Norman played it
Speaker 1: differently than normal, and Gallop was trying to get to
Speaker 1: the inside and Dak saw where Norman was and he says, oh,
Speaker 1: I gotta throw it outside. And then Gallop had turned
Speaker 1: he was ready to get this way, and then he
Speaker 1: couldn't get around to go that once he turned back
Speaker 1: the other way to his left. That knocked him off balance.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a weird coverage that that what
Speaker 1: it was like. It was floating and there was so
Speaker 1: much space, and I was wondering. I was thinking, man,
Speaker 1: when I watched I thought, well, Gallop supposed to get
Speaker 1: closer to the sidelines, but he's trying to run. He's
Speaker 1: trying to run at Norman, but Norman is taking this
Speaker 1: big loop and now it's like, Okay, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: try and beat him. But Prescott threw it to where
Speaker 1: he thought he probably needed to be. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate, you know that they that they missed that
Speaker 1: connection because they they had they had Gallop open on
Speaker 1: that one. That could have been a big that could
Speaker 1: have been another big play for him, you know. An
Speaker 1: interesting thing on and I wrote it in my column
Speaker 1: on the Devin Smith fifty one yard or when they
Speaker 1: ran the post I was I was talking to Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore and he said, yeah, we had that play in
Speaker 1: but we didn't run it. We didn't want to run
Speaker 1: it early. He goes because Karagan would be fresh. We're
Speaker 1: hoping if we waited, maybe the game tired him out.
Speaker 1: And he goes in. We wanted it on the left
Speaker 1: halfh so Karragan had more space to worry about to
Speaker 1: his outside. Yeah, and he has to maybe run further
Speaker 1: to get to the quarterback. And so it just so
Speaker 1: happened that was supposed to be gallops play and they
Speaker 1: gave him a break and Devin Smith just happened to
Speaker 1: be in the game and he set it up nice though,
Speaker 1: and I thought he showed he can run. You know.
Speaker 1: It's funny too, Mickey. That's a great insight right there,
Speaker 1: because they only rushed three on the play. They rushed three,
Speaker 1: dropped eight, and it was I'll tell you what. The
Speaker 1: routes inside pulled both safeties up up and then and
Speaker 1: then nice job at Smith leaning on Norman to get
Speaker 1: him outside. And then once he went to the break,
Speaker 1: Norman had no chance to run. Run. Yeah, Nicholson, Well,
Speaker 1: he jumped the route underneath the cob and then they
Speaker 1: jumped another route landing colleges jumped the route. So they
Speaker 1: ran two inside and then one to the post and
Speaker 1: so here you are clearing space. Nice job there by
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Speaker 1: a new can't kick off on CBS this week. Wonder
Speaker 1: if they but they know they wouldn't send Nance and
Speaker 1: Romo to Cowboys Dolphins? Would they? Why not? Why not?
Speaker 1: You know it's offense is rolling? Well, I bet I
Speaker 1: tell you what. CBS doesn't get very many opportunities Cowboys
Speaker 1: and so usually a noon game they don't and off
Speaker 1: to look at the schedules, see what else they've got.
Speaker 1: Do they have a national game that they probably do
Speaker 1: often look at the schedule, But um, this is America's team.
Speaker 1: I mean, you got Tony Romo, who's becoming America's analyst.
Speaker 1: Do it. With a chance to do a Cowboys game,
Speaker 1: I think I'd go ahead and do it, even though
Speaker 1: they're playing the Dolphins. And you have America's sweethearts too, Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: you do. You are giving all these American things. All right?
Speaker 1: How about we take a look back at our picks
Speaker 1: to click from by the way, Yes, go, yeah, let's
Speaker 1: go pis No, No, I'm just know I was just
Speaker 1: looking up the Cruise. Well I looked up Ravens are
Speaker 1: at the Chiefs this week. That's a pretty good matchup
Speaker 1: right there, right, That's that's two undefeated team Jackson and Mahomes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's a three o'clock game. And that's a three
Speaker 1: o'clock that's probably no excuse me, that's a noon game. Okay,
Speaker 1: Well they wouldn't do okay, Packers because it's a home
Speaker 1: game for Packers. That's not a that's a Fox game, right,
Speaker 1: that would be Fox if Packers are playing the Broncos. Well,
Speaker 1: in the past, the road team dictated the networks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't do that. There's a lot of trade offs
Speaker 1: now and so it's hard to tell. I gotta find
Speaker 1: find my schedule, and I can. I've got the list
Speaker 1: the Rams with the Browns too, but I'll look it up.
Speaker 1: That's a night game. I'm sorry, that's a night that's
Speaker 1: a Sunday night game. Oh so they got Okay, that's
Speaker 1: how the networks jumped on this Brown's bandwagon. I got
Speaker 1: the Monday night game. And now they turn around and
Speaker 1: they've got a Sunday night stay opening the season with
Speaker 1: a twenty point exactly, So by next Sunday night they
Speaker 1: could be o and three exactly. Still might get it together.
Speaker 1: That's why they do it early in the season. That's
Speaker 1: why those those teams that you know are the hot ones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they want to go. Okay, if let's ride this bandwagon
Speaker 1: while there's still a bandwagon to ride. Yeah, Packer game
Speaker 1: is on Fox. Brand Packer games on Fox. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: thank you? Okay. And Pittsburgh San Francisco is a CBS game.
Speaker 1: Houston and the Chargers is a CBS game. And we're
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead an assign Romo to the Dallas game.
Speaker 1: There you go, New Orleans, Seattle. Yeah, that's CBS. See,
Speaker 1: that's that's what that ought to be a Fox. That's
Speaker 1: that's the example that they trade them out right, Now,
Speaker 1: that's they don't it's not the old school way of
Speaker 1: doing things. I bet you they send I bet they
Speaker 1: send that crew up to Seattle. Yeah, because they thought
Speaker 1: that Drew Brees was still that would have been a three.
Speaker 1: That's a three. Yeah. So that's probably the national game
Speaker 1: right there. Ye, Saints Seahawks and Seattle's what two and oh?
Speaker 1: Now after going into Pittsburgh and knocking Ben Big Ben
Speaker 1: out for the season, A they had nothing to do
Speaker 1: with it, twisted his elbow. So you were getting ready,
Speaker 1: all right, they picks to click Brian Braunis, Tyrone Crawford. Yeah,
Speaker 1: give him a tip of the cap. To uh DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence for getting him home on that one. That was
Speaker 1: a great rush as all took out the Yeah, interior
Speaker 1: of the whole line out well executed twist stunt and
Speaker 1: Crawford did a nice job of coming tight on the
Speaker 1: play playing is inside at that tackle spot. They they
Speaker 1: got Crawford down inside, excume, they got Lawrence down inside,
Speaker 1: they got Collins inside and then they had to really
Speaker 1: like I say, it was just a clean run off
Speaker 1: the edge right there. So yeah, I thought that he
Speaker 1: would have an opportunity or two in this game. It's
Speaker 1: nice to see him get that sacked off that play.
Speaker 1: He'd argue that was the play of the game man,
Speaker 1: because you force a punting situation there. It's a turning
Speaker 1: point in the game. Yeah. Yeah, And then a few
Speaker 1: plays later Devin Smith that ignited the offense right after that. Yep,
Speaker 1: all right, Rob Phillips, you recall who your pick the
Speaker 1: click was was Connor Williams, And like Brian said, it
Speaker 1: wasn't all bad, but was it was? It also Dak's
Speaker 1: interception where the initial pressure came from durn Payne up
Speaker 1: the middle. Yeah, he'd beat and it was just bad
Speaker 1: body position imbalanced by Connor Williams. That play, he got overextended.
Speaker 1: He didn't get the help he did later in the game.
Speaker 1: They started helping him a little bit more with Frederick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if Frederick turned the other way to help Martin, which
Speaker 1: you probably don't ever need to do, you know, just
Speaker 1: let let But uh yeah, it was just any any
Speaker 1: and it was a great job by Prescott to even
Speaker 1: to even get out of the way and even to
Speaker 1: have a chance on the play. If he could have
Speaker 1: just torqued his body a little bit more, maybe got
Speaker 1: the ball out outside a little bit more. U Cobb
Speaker 1: was running hard to try and get to a spot.
Speaker 1: There was a window there. But it's a tough throw,
Speaker 1: tough catch, and you know, unfortunately when you throw the
Speaker 1: ball in the middle field and gets tipped sometimes it
Speaker 1: ends up to be an interception. That was just a
Speaker 1: bad part of it right there. I also had I
Speaker 1: had two because I had Jason Witten on three games.
Speaker 1: You did say on the pregame show. I remember saying
Speaker 1: that last time Jason wouldn't had back to back touchdowns
Speaker 1: was twenty seventeen against the Giants and the Red You
Speaker 1: said that you would love that Bill. Yeah, That is
Speaker 1: one fact. I wonder if they played the Dolphins the
Speaker 1: next week. I know they did not play the dol
Speaker 1: They did not. I'm gonna guess they did not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Tony Romo played the Dolphins. Remember he came back from
Speaker 1: the injury. That's when we went to Miami for that trip.
Speaker 1: Remember that. Yeah, all right, Mickey, your call who you had?
Speaker 1: You had Zeke? That's right way to go out on
Speaker 1: a limb on that one. Well, everybody probably thought he
Speaker 1: was only gonna get fifteen carries. I told you he
Speaker 1: was ready to go. He was ready to go, no
Speaker 1: doubt about it. It's a steady diet of Zeke in
Speaker 1: that game. And I had vander Ish, So I'll take
Speaker 1: credit for that play. That you how many exciting tackles
Speaker 1: did he have in the game? Team stats? Vanders got
Speaker 1: my stats. He had five total five tackles. They were
Speaker 1: the biggest tackles of the game. Let me tell you,
Speaker 1: Jalen Smiths, the team with eleven eleven had a better game.
Speaker 1: Byron Jones had eight for the day. So well, they
Speaker 1: kept picking on. Okay, So first, now, okay, in hindsight,
Speaker 1: who is the offensive and defensive picks to click I
Speaker 1: think Zeke would be Zeke on deck you got I'll
Speaker 1: go but nope. But but nobody picked the click. I mean, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, if you could just pick anybody,
Speaker 1: now who I thought you were saying among our little guy,
Speaker 1: come on, he had four incompletions, you know, yeah, you
Speaker 1: have to. I know we're gonna do a top ten list,
Speaker 1: and I think for the second week in a row,
Speaker 1: he's the you know, clearly the the the front runner,
Speaker 1: and that I don't know how you could say he's
Speaker 1: not right. Yeah, he's completed every eighty two point three
Speaker 1: percent of his passes after two games, and he's second
Speaker 1: in the NFL behind Lamar Jackson and then throwing a
Speaker 1: little forty two yard run for some seasoning. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean really, he's playing the position as well as about
Speaker 1: about as well as you can play it, honestly, Now
Speaker 1: defensively picked a click? Or who got who? In this game?
Speaker 1: You know? Id Byron Jones. I was gonna say, Byron Jones.
Speaker 1: I thought somebody would jump in there and saying, but
Speaker 1: I'll say, Byron Jones, I I respect what Jalen Smith did,
Speaker 1: you know? I was kind of hoping that Jalen Smith
Speaker 1: and Vanders those guys are gonna do this last week
Speaker 1: against the Giants. But nice job by Jalen playing this week.
Speaker 1: But Byron Jones, you know, he had no training camp. No.
Speaker 1: I mean he's basically out there, you know, working on
Speaker 1: his own by himself, you know, when no one's watching
Speaker 1: and he's you know, he came back, you know him.
Speaker 1: Britt Brown did a great job. He looks comfortable the
Speaker 1: way he's moving, he's driving on the football, he's being
Speaker 1: physical when he has to. You know, the back shoulder
Speaker 1: throw I thought was a really good pass on the
Speaker 1: goal line. It was tough. He just didn't get his
Speaker 1: head around quick enough. But overall, Byron Jones to me,
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're talking about a guy like I said,
Speaker 1: not not any training, can't practice at all, and it's
Speaker 1: going out there in week two and had eight tackles
Speaker 1: and was knocking down balls and stuff like one his
Speaker 1: opening play of the game. Year he had another one
Speaker 1: over the middle. That young fellow is a tough cover,
Speaker 1: by the way. Yeah, and uh in a shoe shring
Speaker 1: tackle two on third down early in the game as well.
Speaker 1: You know that play he made on on on Paul
Speaker 1: Richardson not to give him a third and three, and
Speaker 1: they throw a crossing round and he gets picked. I
Speaker 1: mean literally, he gets picked by the tight end and
Speaker 1: he fights through the pick to get over to make
Speaker 1: the tackle. I mean him and Woods over there together
Speaker 1: and Xavier Woods. I was, that's a that's a good thing.
Speaker 1: You think they saw him starting and they said, okay,
Speaker 1: let's see if he can run. It's a terrible game plan.
Speaker 1: It's a terrible game plan if you well, I guess
Speaker 1: you don't because a Woozier didn't do anything. Man Woozy
Speaker 1: had a very quiet game for him, you know, not
Speaker 1: having to do it. Me. I don't even think they
Speaker 1: tartly threw that he had one tackle in the in
Speaker 1: the game but he sorry, yeah, no, they did. They
Speaker 1: they obviously. I mean, I think it's a it's a
Speaker 1: to me, I can I say it's a bad plan,
Speaker 1: but I understand. But I just feel like, though, to me,
Speaker 1: the guy that that I didn't feel like played very well,
Speaker 1: if you want to be honest, is Brown. I didn't
Speaker 1: think that. I don't think he played real. He made
Speaker 1: a couple of plays, but he also missed some plays
Speaker 1: in space. That I thought that he normally makes and
Speaker 1: that's the that's the you know the problem there when
Speaker 1: he's not tackling, well, you notice it. And that's I
Speaker 1: think it happened to him a couple of different times
Speaker 1: on on some stuff. But you know that they you know,
Speaker 1: him and Lewis and those guys at secondary. You know,
Speaker 1: I think overall did a pretty good job. Okay, it's Monday.
Speaker 1: Tuesday's a big day for roster maneuverings around the league.
Speaker 1: Let's take a look ahead when we come back here
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Speaker 1: right around the league. What might happen this week? Let's
Speaker 1: first address the MINCA Fitzpatrick rumors out there. Well, they've
Speaker 1: they've admitted that they talked. Am I correct about that, Mickey?
Speaker 1: If I didn't hear it from anybody, but I've seen it.
Speaker 1: So Stephen Jones, he's spoke in generalities. He was on
Speaker 1: the radio. He didn't name names at all, he said,
Speaker 1: but he says he talks to a lot of people.
Speaker 1: He's having conversations, which means that you know that, yeah,
Speaker 1: that they're always going to have conversations. So I was
Speaker 1: told though that there's three teams involved in the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Are not one of them? Okay, So there there's there's
Speaker 1: teams willing to give first round pick, well, then have
Speaker 1: at it. So that's what I was told. And as
Speaker 1: far as okay, with the Antoine Woods injury, how does
Speaker 1: that affect things on the defensive line for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: going that's a nose tackle, yes, and not Tristan Hill,
Speaker 1: who isn't under tackle, So be interesting to see what
Speaker 1: happens with Uh. He may have to be active because
Speaker 1: if Tyrone Crawford isn't ready to go right, and that's
Speaker 1: the other I don't know if you want Hyder Joe
Speaker 1: Jackson play Hyder played undertack inside. Yeah, Hyder played undertackle
Speaker 1: yesterday late in that game when they were rushing the passer.
Speaker 1: Can Covington play the nose, Yeah, he is the nose,
Speaker 1: but he can play three as well. He can play either.
Speaker 1: He can play either spot. So you've got okay, so
Speaker 1: you've got Malik Covington, maybe Crawford, maybe Hyder can mix
Speaker 1: in there be at Yeah, he was nearly active this week.
Speaker 1: He was real close, and at the last minute they
Speaker 1: decided to do it the way they did last week. Okay,
Speaker 1: so practiced a lot better. Yeah, So if Covington's your nose,
Speaker 1: then who is the next guy in on the nose? Yep,
Speaker 1: they don't have one. They don't have one right now.
Speaker 1: So in an emergency though, I mean, if you're if
Speaker 1: Malik has done the Lake has done it, Malike has
Speaker 1: done it. Yeah, he would slide over and he would, yeah,
Speaker 1: he would, which which would open up a spot for
Speaker 1: Tristan Hill, which opened the spot for Tristan Hill, And
Speaker 1: then you could play Hyder at the three. You could
Speaker 1: also play Joe Jackson. We haven't seen it, but they
Speaker 1: talk about him being able to play the three. Yep.
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting. We talk about the depth on
Speaker 1: the defensive line and the versatility, but when you when
Speaker 1: you really look at it as far as that one technique,
Speaker 1: you had Woods and Covington and that was basically it, right,
Speaker 1: but they were they were also thinking in Nickel's situation, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Crawford inside, I mean, this is the bass we're talking
Speaker 1: about bass. Yeah, you really only had one back up
Speaker 1: at the nose. Yeah, So so okay, So then the
Speaker 1: Tyrone Crawford injury situation, and with Robert Quinn coming back
Speaker 1: now with full uniform in hand, that's pads and helmet right,
Speaker 1: What does this mean for Taco Charlton this week? I
Speaker 1: said this last week and I believe it to be true.
Speaker 1: I again, this is my opinion on this only. But
Speaker 1: if they, in fact, you know, if he was going
Speaker 1: to be a healthy scratch this week, they need to
Speaker 1: move on and you know, the roster spot if it.
Speaker 1: I don't think they. I shouldn't say this, but I
Speaker 1: will if they if they need the spot and they
Speaker 1: don't feel like releasing anybody else. If they feel like that,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, the guys we have and we're not
Speaker 1: going to use Taco. He's not part of our plans,
Speaker 1: then they just need to cut bait and move on.
Speaker 1: I can understand trying to trade him, but teams kind
Speaker 1: of see the situation right now and they're like, well,
Speaker 1: what are we going to give in unless somebody doesn't
Speaker 1: want to fight for him on waiver or claim his
Speaker 1: contract or all that stuff. So to me, I kind
Speaker 1: of feel like though, that if if they are so
Speaker 1: set on their roster that we do not want to
Speaker 1: give up Brandon Knight or anybody else that they that
Speaker 1: might be the fifty second or fifty third player, then
Speaker 1: they just need to move on from Taco. I mean
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be detrimental to him, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: detrimental to the team. And then you know, get Robert
Speaker 1: Quinn in there and and go you're out. Because it's interesting,
Speaker 1: Like where else are they really deep? Position wise? Where
Speaker 1: you mentioned Brandon Knight, he's a you know, he's a
Speaker 1: backup interior line Redman. They don't want to give up guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't want to give up any of
Speaker 1: their offensive lineman. And I don't blame them. I don't
Speaker 1: blame because those offensive linemen go, they just go. They
Speaker 1: you know, and especially got like if Redmond. You know,
Speaker 1: I was told if Redmond were to get released, he's
Speaker 1: just got teams that would be interested in him. Well
Speaker 1: that's the guy they were trying to trade. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: probably no one gave him what they what they want
Speaker 1: they's worth, right, So it's better to have him be
Speaker 1: an active every week. And but I if they if
Speaker 1: they're not going to use Taco and they're not going
Speaker 1: to practice him like he's gonna play Mickey's right about
Speaker 1: about he'll he'll practice really well last week from what
Speaker 1: talking to some folks, and Taco doesn't get the opportunities.
Speaker 1: He didn't get the opportunities to practice with the bey
Speaker 1: on the with the with the ones, and or he
Speaker 1: gets opportunities with the twos. So if he's not getting that,
Speaker 1: you know, before long it's going to turn into okay
Speaker 1: once again, you've got this disgruntled player, you know. Should
Speaker 1: we move on? Yeah, you should move on. Don't don't.
Speaker 1: Don't wreck what you have in that locker room because
Speaker 1: a player being disgruntled, and maybe they'll be stubborn about it.
Speaker 1: But if it was me and you're not going to
Speaker 1: do anything with him, I would find a way to
Speaker 1: move on, get Robert Quinn on and give everybody a
Speaker 1: fresh start that way. So my only reservation is, and
Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure I had this right. How
Speaker 1: many sacks do they have after two games too? With
Speaker 1: all this depth? Yeah, got two sacks? Won a game. Yep,
Speaker 1: that's true. And the pressure hasn't been really good. Now
Speaker 1: I understand their worry. Their worry is he doesn't play
Speaker 1: the run all that well, and the other guys do
Speaker 1: and the other guys that's fine, and there's guys ahead
Speaker 1: of him so far they can play inside. So there's
Speaker 1: a couple of reasons there, so that had a lot
Speaker 1: to do with him still not being active. But again,
Speaker 1: if you're not getting sacks, okay, Quinn, is he gonna
Speaker 1: come back and light it up after missing? How many
Speaker 1: weeks will it be? They feel better. I don't think
Speaker 1: they feel like it's going to take him long. They
Speaker 1: feel better about Quinn obviously than they do Tacco. Well, no,
Speaker 1: I understand that, but I'm just saying, you're not going
Speaker 1: to send him out there for fifty snaps. Somebody else
Speaker 1: is gonna have to play defensive end, especially if Crawford
Speaker 1: can't go. That's Joe Joe Jackson. I mean they've got Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know you've got guys, but how well that's the thing. Now,
Speaker 1: if they think they're all better than Tacco, than fine,
Speaker 1: all right, let's go. Well I haven't seen it. We've
Speaker 1: got tomorrow to discuss that. I want to well, why
Speaker 1: did you bring it up? Because let me ask a
Speaker 1: question real quick then of this, because I want to
Speaker 1: finish this. If if, if what you're saying is true, Mickey,
Speaker 1: then why are the why are the coaching staff why
Speaker 1: are they not giving Taco? I just explained why? Why?
Speaker 1: Because the other guys were versatile, and they don't trust
Speaker 1: him playing the run, and they don't chose Taco playing
Speaker 1: the run. Yeah, so they're gonna he's gonna get more
Speaker 1: practice time this week. No, I didn't say that. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying the other guys haven't excelled to the point
Speaker 1: that they're just giving up on him unless he's that bad.
Speaker 1: They got two sacks. He had the best preseason he's
Speaker 1: ever had since he's been here, and they don't play
Speaker 1: And that's all you need. And I told you why,
Speaker 1: that's all you need. This is just getting good. And
Speaker 1: we're out of time exactly or a minute over. But
Speaker 1: I do need to clarify Cowboys Dolphins is on Fox.
Speaker 1: Thank you, sting Ray. My people at CBS told me
Speaker 1: it's on CBS. Oh no, it's on Fox. So there
Speaker 1: you go. So Romo's not doing that game. Talk at
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