1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 2: Single best Idea and thank you for listening. I got 3 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 2: a bit of the plague here, so we're going to 4 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: keep this short again today, but it's improving. I'm improving 5 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 2: every day. Thank you to the good people. This podcast 6 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: brought to you by the medical people of Wild Cornell 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 2: here in New York City. Great show today. I just 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: want to point out Nancy Lazarre was on. She's a legend, 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: She's the Piper Sandler. Nancy Lazar helped invent modern market 10 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 2: economics at CJ. Lawrence years ago. And what's really nuanced. 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 2: We're not going to play it for you, but what's 12 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: really nuanced is ed Yard Denny is calling this maybe 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: a roaring twenties or things are pretty darn good, and 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 2: Nancy Lazar takes a very different tack. She agrees the 15 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 2: roaring part of it's still there, but it could turn 16 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 2: and even in the second half of this year, too 17 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: much more of a slowdown. That's the kind of tension. 18 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: We want to highlight the many different voices we speak 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 2: to on economics and the rest as well. It really 20 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,559 Speaker 2: helps if we know the pedigree of our guests. Matt 21 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: Hornbach came out of Vasser Economics and was the chosen 22 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 2: one for Morgan Stanley to go to Japan and have 23 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: the privilege of working with the iconic Robert Feldman. Robbie Feldman, 24 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 2: who's been a wonderful supporter of this show, is the 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 2: English speaking voice of Japan. There's no other way to 26 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: put it. And Matt Hornbach had a privileged youth within 27 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: its broader interest rate strategy at Morgan Stanley of working 28 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 2: with Robbie Feldman. Here is Matt Hornbach on the choice 29 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 2: set of the Bank of Japan. 30 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 3: The Bank of Japan has been very influential, but it's 31 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 3: not just them, of course. The commercial banks in Japan 32 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: are hugely influential in that marketplace. And I can tell 33 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 3: you right now what they're hoping for is similar to 34 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: what other investors around the world are hoping for. They're 35 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: hoping for the Bank of Japan to raise rates. They're 36 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 3: looking to reinvest all of those deposits into higher yielding 37 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: jgb's and so everybody is on the same side of 38 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 3: that market. They want higher rates, and that ultimately is 39 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 3: something you need to be aware of. 40 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: Matt Hornback just love that listen to the replay of 41 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 2: the show today. There's some great conversations and that'll be 42 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: out in three four hours here to think twelve noon, 43 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 2: one pm today, two hours and fifty six minutes. It's 44 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 2: a podcast, but it's a whole replay unedited to the show, 45 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: and Hornback was just brilliant on Japan and the effect 46 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 2: across all of the Pacific rim. This is the second time, 47 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: and I believe three days I've heard somebody I really 48 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 2: really respect bring up nineteen sixty eight. No, not cream 49 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: and what Eric Clapton did with Disraeli Gears, but much 50 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: more the political tone that we could see this summer 51 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: in the two conventions in Chicago. Wendy Schiller is at 52 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: Brown University, and she made clear, like many others, given 53 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: the protests across America, could we see nineteen sixty eight 54 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 2: in Chicago again? 55 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 4: If most people could remember in nineteen sixty eight, which 56 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 4: most people can't now. I mean, that's the issue is 57 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 4: that we just don't know our history well enough. But 58 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 4: certainly the fact that the Democrat Party's convention is in Chicago, 59 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 4: there will be protests and there will be a police response, 60 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 4: no doubt, really gives people of a certain age, A 61 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 4: lot of shutters to think that this will give just 62 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 4: as it gave Richard Nixon the election in sixty eight, 63 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 4: that this will give Donald Trump the election. And I 64 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 4: don't discount that possibility. So they're trying to prepare for 65 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 4: that as best they can. Remember. You and I both 66 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 4: know people over the age of fifty five sixty they 67 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 4: vote the biggest numbers proportionally so that they remember sixty eight. 68 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 4: So this is a real challenge for the Democrat Party 69 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: coming this summer. 70 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: Some of the uncertainty they are set out by Professor 71 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: Schiller of Brown. Whatever your political persuasi, her grasp of 72 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: our history is just absolutely extraordinary. 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