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Speaker 1: we're we're just trying to follow their lade, understand the

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Speaker 1: issues that are are taking place in each and every community,

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Speaker 1: and trying to see how we can affect change. Excellent. Well,

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Speaker 1: before we let you go, an kin, I gotta do

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Speaker 1: this because you know your hands have always been talked

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Speaker 1: about the strongest hands. Can you give me a handshake?

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Speaker 1: I mean, like put the muster on, like give me

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Speaker 1: a handsh like you would give a nice firm handsha

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Speaker 1: and let me just feel what it's like. That's pretty good. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you for joining us, and we appreciate it. Man,

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Speaker 1: no problem, always a blast. Congratulations, all right, We'll really

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Speaker 1: good stuff. Just a good dude, physical player, everything that

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Speaker 1: you think about when you think about a raven, tough,

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Speaker 1: physical player, good player, good in the community. That's an umble.

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Speaker 1: It's funny because I sometimes do feel like those things

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Speaker 1: can get thrown around and that can be a little

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Speaker 1: cliche like tough, physical, hard nosed, but but like cliche, Well,

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Speaker 1: when he talks about changing the culture and basically saying

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Speaker 1: to the offense when he first got here, like this

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Speaker 1: stuff is not gonna fly anymore. It really was a

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Speaker 1: changing of the tide, and he was a huge reason

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Speaker 1: for that. Like it's just interesting to hear from his

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Speaker 1: perspective about that now and then, and the fact that

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Speaker 1: after when he left, he could tell it was a

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Speaker 1: completely different mindset and attitude and team and he had

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Speaker 1: a huge reason. He was a huge reason for that.

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Speaker 1: I thought one of the more interesting things from the

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Speaker 1: press conference, and we didn't ask him about this in

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Speaker 1: the pod here, was that he was trying to get

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Speaker 1: on the Ravens two years before he actually did when

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Speaker 1: he went after the Super Bowl, he bet up with

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Speaker 1: Ray Lewis at the Pro Bowl and was like Ray's

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Speaker 1: recruiting him. Basically He's like, yeah, get me there and

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Speaker 1: I help you beat the Steelers. And he did get

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Speaker 1: you over there and he did. Yeah. So that would

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Speaker 1: have been the only thing that would have made that

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Speaker 1: that playoff run any better was instead of Colts, if

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Speaker 1: it had gone Steelers, Broncos, Patriots, oh that would have been.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, some great victories over the Ers because of

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Speaker 1: anklam Bolden. Uh. Do you want to get to a

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Speaker 1: question here? We didn't read one off the top uh.

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Speaker 1: As always you could read just at the lounge at

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Speaker 1: Ravens dot NFL dot net. This email comes from Joel

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Speaker 1: Harmon straight from Canada. The international listeners coming back strong.

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Speaker 1: We haven't heard from him. I feel like in a

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Speaker 1: little bit now we got one, Joel. So Joel's Joel,

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Speaker 1: come on man, Joel says a long time listener, first

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Speaker 1: time emailer, love the pod. I wanted to hear your

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Speaker 1: thoughts on the talent we have on the Ravens. Who

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Speaker 1: do you think is going to make the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: this year? As a bonus, would you wager making all row?

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Speaker 1: Thanks Joel from Atlantic, Canada. Alright, I guess that's the

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Speaker 1: East Coast I would thank. I guess so yeah? Uh

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Speaker 1: so who's gonna make the Pro Bowl this year? From

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Speaker 1: the Ravens? I think I can name four guys, five

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Speaker 1: guys actually that have a really good shot. Marshal Yanda,

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Speaker 1: Justin Tucker. They get the I mean, are deserving and

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Speaker 1: their well known names at the position. The crazy part

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Speaker 1: is Tucker has gone too and he should have gone

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Speaker 1: to a lot more so he's he's what I would say, yes,

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Speaker 1: those two, but I thought he was a shoeing last year.

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Speaker 1: He didn't get it, so I would hope that that

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Speaker 1: changes this year. You always have like some road kicker

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Speaker 1: that just pulls a good season out of nowhere, and

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Speaker 1: you know, challenge him. But justin Tuck, Tucker is deserving.

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Speaker 1: He's the best kicker in the game. It's not even close. Really.

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Speaker 1: Um So those are two. Uh. Then I would also

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Speaker 1: say Marlon Humphrey is deserving to make his first one,

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Speaker 1: and Ronnie Stanley is deserving to make his first one.

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Speaker 1: And then the last one. How cool me finally to

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Speaker 1: have a quarterback in the Pro Bowl. We were talking

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Speaker 1: about this, were you in this conversation in the locker

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Speaker 1: room the other day, and I was saying, I think

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Speaker 1: Lamar is gonna go. I mean like he's an envy.

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Speaker 1: He's legitimately an m v P conversation right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But now the challenge here is that some of the

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Speaker 1: other guys, who else you gotta look, who else that

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Shawn Watson or two other guys exactly

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Speaker 1: and how many quarterbacks do they take to initially get

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Speaker 1: the initial vote? Now, lot of guys a third, Well,

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Speaker 1: I think they'll end up being three total that there

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day. Um, and you've got

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Got Tom Brady that's also in the mix.

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Speaker 1: Now Tom never goes typically because he's in the Super Bowl. Um,

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Speaker 1: do you have a beep, puke noise, give me the

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Speaker 1: bar of noise and Chad come on man, Um no, no, anyway,

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think he's got a real chance. I

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Speaker 1: got I think he's got a real chance. Some of

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Speaker 1: the other ones that have gone in the past, Philip Rivers, um,

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Speaker 1: but he doesn't look like he's gonna you know, he'll

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Speaker 1: get a lot of votes a same Ben has gone

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Speaker 1: obviously he's not going this year. Um, So I think

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Speaker 1: the Mars got a real good shot to go. I

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Speaker 1: can't think of anybody else that would go from the

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Speaker 1: a f C this year. It's gonna be tough to

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Speaker 1: beat out in my homes and Deshaun Watson the way

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Speaker 1: they're playing Tom Brady and Tom Brady obviously, but there's

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Speaker 1: always a lot of quarterback alternates, so that could be

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Speaker 1: the case again. And I think. So those are five

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Speaker 1: guys who I think are absolutely deserving of being in

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl this year. I would agree, all right,

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Speaker 1: So do you think all five get it? Um? I

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Speaker 1: think that you may. I think probably not. You know,

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Speaker 1: with Ronnie and Marlon, I think Marlon is gonna go.

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Speaker 1: I could see Ronnie maybe being left off sometimes into this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he shouldn't be. He's the best left tackle on football

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Speaker 1: says for Football Focus through the first five weeks. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure how he graded out in Week six, but

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Speaker 1: I would have seen probably pretty good. Yeah, he should

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Speaker 1: be there. He should be there for sure. Yeah. Alright,

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Speaker 1: So I got a big game coming up in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling about this one? What's your gut

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Speaker 1: telling you on this one? Gear? I think this is

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Speaker 1: the game of the Ravens case steal. I think that,

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Speaker 1: you know. I'm nervous about the defense. The defense has

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Speaker 1: played better the last two weeks, but it's you gotta

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Speaker 1: consider the competition the Ravens too. I think for a

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Speaker 1: lot of people nationally and locally to feel good about

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Speaker 1: the team, they've got to go beat a good team.

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Speaker 1: And so they've got four wins, but the combined win

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Speaker 1: total of those four teams is four wins. So you

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Speaker 1: gotta go out there and be a good team at

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Speaker 1: some point to make everyone kind of feel good about you.

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Speaker 1: I like what I've seen from the offense. They need

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Speaker 1: to cut down it's them of the mistakes. Um. The

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Speaker 1: defense has been better, but again level of competition. So

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Speaker 1: I think there's a chance for the Ravens to steal

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Speaker 1: this game. That the Seahawks have a great record, they're

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Speaker 1: a really good team, and the candidates. Russell Wilson's right there. Um,

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Speaker 1: but they wrote the Browns had them on the ropes

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Speaker 1: last week. The Bengals had them on the ropes in

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Speaker 1: Week one. There's no reason to think that the Ravens

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Speaker 1: are gonna be Seattle's defense has not been lights out

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Speaker 1: this year. I think Lamar is gonna make some plays.

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Speaker 1: I think the offense is gonna move the ball as

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Speaker 1: long as they finished drives, which has been a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a bugaboo recently. Um, and stop turning the

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Speaker 1: ball over and the penalties. They just have to stop

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Speaker 1: shooting themselves in the foot. I think if they can

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Speaker 1: put together their best game yet on offense, they can

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Speaker 1: easily outscore the Seattle even if Seattle has a pretty

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Speaker 1: do think legitimately the Ravens just by virtue of kind

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Speaker 1: of calming down, are better. They're not giving up the

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Speaker 1: give those up in Seattle. Just busting coverages all those

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Speaker 1: kind of things. I think that they've worked that iron

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Speaker 1: that out. Now, I still have questions about the pass rush,

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Speaker 1: and and until they I think add somebody in into

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Speaker 1: So there's still problems that are harder to fix, but

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Speaker 1: I think they have fixed some of the problems in

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Speaker 1: terms of just giving up easy points, you know, right, Um,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it should be uh, it should be a

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Speaker 1: good test. And then you've got Patriots right after that.

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Speaker 1: So no, you know, these next few weeks, the schedule

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Speaker 1: toughens up for the Ravens and we're gonna find out

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Speaker 1: kind of what they're made up. So um, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to it. Yep. As always, you can reach us

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Speaker 1: at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net and

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Speaker 1: make sure you tune in for uh