1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with iHeartRadio. All Right, 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Hi everybody, this is Trista. 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 2: I am filling in for Ben and Ashley with some 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 2: breaking news exciting Bachelor in Paradise. They just released the 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: first wave cast of Bachelor in Paradise, and I have 6 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 2: producer Maddie here to talk to me about our thoughts 7 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: on this cast, reveal kind of who we're shipping, who 8 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: we're liking, who maybe we're missing, and some things along 9 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 2: the way as well. 10 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: So welcome Maddie. 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 3: Hi, Hi, everybody. I'm so excited to get into the 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 3: first batch of Paradise. 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: Yes, so exciting. I can't wait, can't wait for the 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 2: season to air. 15 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: I can't wait to. 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: Hear more about more people coming because I feel like 17 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: it's not always just first wave, you know. I would 18 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: love to have Ashley on because she's, you know, expert 19 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: all things Bachelor in Paradise to know if there's like 20 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 2: some statistics on how many relationships come from just the 21 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: first wave and how many relationships come from like the 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: second third, you know, more and more as we go. 23 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: I'm sure we could go on to Bachelor data on 24 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 2: their Instagram account, and I'm sure they have all this information. 25 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm really excited that we have just a 26 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: sneak peek of who's gonna be there and their vibe 27 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: kind of walking in. It's kind of a whole new vibe, 28 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:43,199 Speaker 2: I would say. You know, it's very like the music 29 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,960 Speaker 2: in the trailer was very island, and not that that's 30 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 2: any different, but our producer Heather pointed out to me 31 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 2: that in this trailer they're not using this song almost Paradise, 32 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: which they have used consistently I feel like from the 33 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: beginning of Bachelor in Paradise, right, So it's kind of 34 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 2: a new vibe. 35 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 3: Right totally. Do you think that we're going to get 36 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 3: a new theme song or are they just sort of 37 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 3: teasing us for the big reveal in the first episode 38 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 3: that they're going to drop the og theme song again. 39 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a good question. 40 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: I feel like it's very It was very and yes, 41 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: it was always on the same beach, right, So this 42 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 2: is different because now it's in Costa Rica, so you know, 43 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: it is a different location, but they always did it 44 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: on the beach or in the you know, the resort, 45 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 2: the Bachelor in Paradise resort in Mexico, and and and 46 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 2: so it's new. They're walking into new, a new place, 47 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 2: and it just, I don't know, it looks more like 48 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: high definition. I'm sure it was high definition you know before, 49 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 2: but it just has i don't know, kind of more sophisticated. 50 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: I feel like the intros back in the day were 51 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: very always very silly, like someone was, you know, naked 52 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,959 Speaker 2: and covering themselves with the palm. 53 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: Leaf or you know, whatever it was. 54 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: All all of the intros are most of them, I'd 55 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 2: say ninety nine percent of them were very like silly 56 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: like Three's Company, you know, and if you know what 57 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 2: that is, you weren't even born when Three's Company was around. 58 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 3: Well, I'm silly and the cheesy, and I hope that 59 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 3: they bring back those intros. I think that we're sensing 60 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 3: more of that, like you said, polished professional vibe, but 61 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: let's bring back the fun. I'm excited to see what 62 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: this crew has for us. I hope it's entertaining. Like 63 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: we said, we've only gotten the first batch and that 64 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 3: did not include any of the Goldens yet, So I'm 65 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 3: excited to see who they bring down. I hope there's 66 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: some surprises. 67 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 2: Yes, they're always there will be for sure, there will 68 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,119 Speaker 2: be surprises. Who knows when they'll come, but there will 69 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: for sure be surprises. So let's go through the cast 70 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: and let y'all in on who is actually going to be. 71 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: Part of this first wave. So let's start it off. 72 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: We've got three girls from Grant season, which was the 73 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 2: most recent recent season, and that's Alex with an E. 74 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: I love that she spells her name with an E. 75 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 2: At the end, Bailey, who I loved from the season, 76 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: and Zoe and Alex was the one for those out 77 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: there who might not know them by name, who had 78 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 2: the date in the mall which they were playing on 79 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: the piano. It was really actually really cute. I love 80 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: her too. And Bailey is showing up to the beach. 81 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: She said her tagline was I'm trading the bob for 82 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: a bikini. And she's got these long braids in her hair. 83 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: She looks phenomenal. I love the braids. And then Zoe 84 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 2: is the one that, Oh, in the beginning, he was 85 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 2: the one who was interrupting people. She caused a little 86 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 2: bit of drama in the beginning with the interruptions or 87 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: multiple interruptions. And she was the one also that they 88 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 2: I think they first announced her on the after the 89 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: final rows for Grant. 90 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: So what do you think about those three so far? 91 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 3: Well, I have to say my favorite from Grant season 92 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 3: was Alex. I love that her tagline plays into her 93 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 3: intro to Grant. I left my no drama lama at home. 94 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: I'm also a baker the idea of taglines in general 95 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 3: as a Housewives fan, I have to say some of 96 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 3: the rest of the casts are not my favorite. But 97 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 3: we can get into that taglines. 98 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: You mean some of the rest of the cat yes, 99 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 2: got it, y yep. 100 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 3: I think some of them were trying a little bit 101 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: too hard to be funny, and some of them, yeah, 102 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: missed the mark a little bit. Just in general, it 103 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: seemed like they were just listing what they were looking 104 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: for on the beach instead of really making it at themselves. 105 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 2: I don't know that we can say that they came 106 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: up with these on their own. 107 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: I agree. I think, actually, yeah, rule. 108 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 2: So let's not like, you know, blame them for maybe 109 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: a bad, bad tagline, but I think that, yeah, the 110 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 2: ones that we like, I think are going to stand 111 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 2: out more. It's the same as when they did the 112 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: intros on the beach on previous seasons. There are some 113 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: that I was like, oh my gosh, that was so 114 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: cute and so like memorable, and then there were some 115 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 2: that I was just like, really, that was kind of boring, 116 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 2: you know. So there are definitely going to be taglines 117 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: that we like and taglines that we don't. So I'm 118 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,279 Speaker 2: not a real Housewife viewer. I mean I've seen it before, 119 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 2: but not consistently. So this is a thing that the 120 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 2: Housewives do every season. 121 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 3: This is a thing and they base it on the 122 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: events of the most recent seasons. They change every season, 123 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 3: which is kind of fun. 124 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: I like that. 125 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: Don't know why they're choosing to bring it to Paradise 126 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: because it's not part of the regular Bachelor show, but 127 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 3: I think it's fun. I think they're trying something different, 128 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 3: and like I said, I think some of them, I 129 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 3: think some of them worked. Maybe we can get into 130 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: which were our favorites and not favorites once we get 131 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: through the rest of the cast. 132 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do want to say, we said Alex and Bailey's, 133 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: but Zoe's is here to Here's to shooting your shot again, 134 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: which I think is a little catchy. I mean, she 135 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 2: did talk about how she was shooting her shot when 136 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: she did those interruptions on Grant season, so that factors in. 137 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 2: But okay, so moving on from gen trans season, We've 138 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 2: got a lot of guys. We've got Brian, Hakeem, Ricky, 139 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 2: Jeremy Spencer, Sam m and Jonathan Who. 140 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he was pretty much a shoe in. 141 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: I feel like anyone who watches the show probably could 142 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 2: guess that he was going to show up. He was 143 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: definitely one of the ones that I thought would be 144 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 2: on the show. Who were your favorites from this batch? 145 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 3: Ooh, that's tough. I've actually met Jonathan, have you? I 146 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 3: have at Ben's baby shower back in December. He was hilarious. 147 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 3: He has the perfect personality for it. He's so personable, 148 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: he's so charming. I think he's going to be very 149 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 3: popular on the Beach. I have to say I'm also 150 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 3: a Hakeem fan, probably because of his infamous reaction pases 151 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 3: at the finality the women. Ye know, he's always like 152 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: in shock right. I was also a big Spencer fan 153 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: during the seventh season. So those three I hope go 154 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: really far and I hope they find someone on the beach. 155 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. 156 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 2: Okay, so taglines, We've got Brian, who said hey, hey, hey, 157 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: I'm trying to fallen love here, but I think it 158 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: was He's got a big accent, right, yeah, he's. 159 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 3: Like if we could hear him say. 160 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, true story, because I'm not gonna try. We've got 161 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 2: Hakeem's tagline is I'm here for sparks, the kisses, and 162 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: someone who gets my humor. So that's one of the ones. 163 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: I feel like they totally could have. They could have 164 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: honed in on those, like visuals like the big eyes, 165 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 2: like saying something like his big eyes or his reactions 166 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 2: or something like that instead of I'm here for sparks, 167 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: the kisses, and someone who gets my humor, because aren't 168 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: we all? 169 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 3: I love him, and I think that that was really generic. 170 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: Yes true story? 171 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 2: Oh yes, Actually maybe that is hinting at his season 172 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: on Bachelor in Paradise, Like maybe there are some sparks 173 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 2: going on for him in Paradise and some kisses and 174 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: we'll get to see some of his humors, so that'll 175 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,599 Speaker 2: be fun. Let's see who else was from that season. Jonathan. 176 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 2: His tagline is I'm just a medium king looking for 177 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 2: big love. Okay, tell me what the medium king is 178 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: because I don't remember that from previous season. 179 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: Okay, he refers to himself as a medium king because 180 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 3: he's not the tallest. He's not sure, but he's not 181 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 3: super tall. I would say he got it five seven, 182 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 3: five eight. So maybe he's looking for well, actually, I 183 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 3: don't want to say that he's looking for someone who's 184 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 3: more petite than he is. 185 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: No, I mean maybe maybe he isn't, because he does 186 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: say looking for big love, so maybe that means a 187 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 2: taller woman who knows. Okay, I love that. That's so 188 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 2: cute and that's a good one. 189 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: I like that. 190 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: And does he play up that medium king thing on 191 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 2: his social does that something that he's kind of known for? Okay, yes, okay, 192 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: we've also got Brian came, Ricky, Jeremy and Spencer. 193 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: Ricky's is ola. 194 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 2: Oh he said his tagline in Spanish, like, it's very 195 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: clear that he is fluent in Spanish, and I don't 196 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: know a woman out there who doesn't like a man 197 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: who can speak another language. 198 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: So I think that'll be fun. 199 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: I hope he's fluent in Spanish and that he didn't. Yeah, true, 200 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 3: because they're so true. 201 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 2: He could have and then there would be no connection 202 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: to why he said what he said. But hey, either 203 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: way and then it either way it's cute, and either 204 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:47,239 Speaker 2: way he sounds good saying it, so I like it. Uh, Spencer, 205 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 2: no more shallow waters. I'm ready to get deep. Okay, 206 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: talk to me about the shallow waters thing. Where does 207 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 2: that come from? 208 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 3: Okay? I don't know off the top of my head either, 209 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 3: but I'm wondering if they're also hinting at his season 210 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 3: of paradise. Maybe he has a date where they go swimming, 211 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 3: they have a little kiss. I'm thinking that that's what 212 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: they could be referring to here. 213 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 2: Maybe he's referring to shallow waters like he didn't get 214 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: to hang out as long and get as deep into 215 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: a relationship with Jen as he would have liked. Maybe 216 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 2: that's it too, Who knows, but we'll find out, of course. 217 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: Okay, So. 218 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: There are some wild cards, and this one has been discussed, 219 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: I know on Almost Famous with Ben and Ashley Dale, 220 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 2: Claire Crawley's ex fiance, who you know, I think has 221 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 2: kind of laid low. I think since they broke up. 222 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: Maybe he hasn't, and maybe I just I'm not in 223 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: the know, but I feel like he's kind of laid low. 224 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 2: So the fact that he's coming back is really really 225 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: I think going to make people emotional in one way 226 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: or another, like they're either going to be really excited 227 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: to see him, or maybe they're gonna have the opposite reaction. 228 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: How are you feeling about Dale? 229 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 3: I was shocked to see his name on the cast announcement. 230 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: I really was, you know. I think it's interesting. He's 231 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 3: a little bit older than most of the other contestants. 232 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 3: We'll have to see if he's really able to gel 233 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 3: with the group. I think it would be really interesting. 234 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 3: Also if he's prepared to get engaged right now. You know, 235 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 3: heage declare very fast, and I wonder if he's ready 236 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 3: for another quick turnaround like that. I also have a 237 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 3: really crazy theory that I want to put out there. 238 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 3: Yes please, if Dale could possibly be thinking about being 239 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 3: the next Bachelor and he's going on Paradise to sort 240 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: of reintroduce himself to Bachelor Nation and test the waters 241 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 3: and put himself out there X I all move. I 242 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: don't know. I'm really excited to see what happens though, 243 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 3: and I do have some ideas of who I think 244 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 3: he could be paired well with. 245 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: So we'll definitely get into that. 246 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 2: But I want to go back to what you just said, 247 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: and that is that he is thinking that he could 248 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: position himself to be the next Bachelor. I think that 249 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: is so smart, and I think there is definitely some 250 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 2: possible validity to that. But yes, I feel like he's 251 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: been kind of under the radar for so long. And 252 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: you know, the breakup after he and Claire left the 253 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: show engaged was definitely dramatic, you know, one of the 254 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: most dramatic things to happen in Bachelor Land, but I 255 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 2: think it was It was really dramatic. So and I 256 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: don't think people looked very highly on I know that 257 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 2: if you're friends with Claire, which I am, I definitely 258 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: was kind of siding with her. And yeah, I think 259 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: I'm wondering what she will have to say about it. Actually, 260 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 2: do you know if she's had anything to say about 261 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: this yet. Maybe we need to have her on the podcast. 262 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 3: We should ask her what her thoughts are. Maybe once 263 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: it starts airing and we start to see what he's 264 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,239 Speaker 3: doing down on the beach, she can come and way, yeah, 265 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 3: but I don't think she said yeah publicly, so that 266 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 3: would be. 267 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: Okay an idea to ask her. 268 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, we need to have her on the podcast. Okay, 269 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: let's see we've got oh. I wanted to get into 270 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: his tagline because he said something about football, and I'm 271 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: just going to leave it at that. It was about 272 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: football and nothing about how he had been on Bachelorette before, 273 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 2: that he had been engaged before, Like there was nothing 274 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: like that, and I feel like they could have like 275 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: poked fun at at that at himself. I think that's 276 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 2: always a really attractive feature when someone has some humor 277 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: about or you know, kind of admits to things that 278 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: they've maybe done poorly in the past or maybe not 279 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: made the best decisions in regard to So I feel 280 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: like they lost an opportunity there to have that tag nine. 281 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 2: Not to say that the tagline is everything, Like obviously 282 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 2: he'll be on the beach having lots of conversations, probably 283 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: with lots of women or maybe just one or two. 284 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 2: We'll have to see, but hopefully he'll get into you know, 285 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:51,479 Speaker 2: what happened with him and Claire and take some ownership 286 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: of things that he's done. 287 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 3: Totally, and I think they really threw it back with 288 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: this tagline. They're almost giving him a clean slate. Yeah, 289 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 3: a little bit of acknowledgment that you see it's a 290 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 3: major veteran from Bachelor Nation. 291 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:20,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. Oh this is a good one. Bachelor Season 292 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 2: twenty seven alum and Bachelor in Paradise alum Cat who 293 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 2: actually got engaged, didn't she last season of Bachelor in 294 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: Paradise John Henry? 295 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: Yes. 296 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: So that is a huge one for me, considering she 297 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,679 Speaker 2: was engaged and is coming back to a beach, not 298 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 2: the beach that she got engaged on, but to a 299 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: beach on Bachelor in Paradise to try again. And I 300 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 2: love that her tagline taps into that. She says, I'm back. 301 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 2: You know what they say, cats have nine lives. I 302 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 2: love that tagline. That might be one of my favorites. 303 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 3: I thought it was so and it's funny, and she 304 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 3: takes then it herself that she tried to try again. 305 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 3: You know, I had really mixed feelings about Cat last season. 306 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 3: It's hard. She was the main character of Paradise, I 307 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 3: would argue, but her time was really tumultuous. She also 308 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 3: wasn't the nicest and so I'm really interested to see 309 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 3: if she comes back this season as the villain or 310 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 3: if she's gonna play it more low key since she's 311 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 3: now an alum and she's gonna be one of the 312 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 3: more seasoned members of this cast. 313 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 2: Yes, I totally agree, And I have to go back 314 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 2: to the tagline for one second and say that the 315 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 2: end of it, she it went like a you know, 316 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,160 Speaker 2: a cat with his claws out, and I was like, Oh, 317 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: that's perfect. Like the little audio right after she says 318 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 2: her tagline was actually perfect to like kind of get 319 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: into what you were talking about. That she wasn't maybe 320 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 2: the nicest on the last season of Bachelor in Paradise. 321 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 2: So I just hope that there's some kind of redemption 322 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 2: and maybe she learned a little bit from watching herself 323 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: on Bachelor in Paradise last time. 324 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 3: We'll see if she comes with the claws out this 325 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 3: time exactly. 326 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 2: Let's see, we've got from season seventeen justin Glaize, We've 327 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 2: got from Joey's season Jess and Lexi, who I love. 328 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,479 Speaker 2: We're going to come back to her in just a second. 329 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 2: We've also got Kyle Howard, who was who Katie Thurston 330 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: sent home on week two, and I think that covers 331 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: all of the cast members. I will say Lexi was 332 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: one of my favorites in the beginning of Joey's season, 333 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 2: and when I saw the cast pictures, I am gonna 334 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 2: put it out there now. I have no idea if 335 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 2: this will happen. I'm usually pretty bad at this, but 336 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 2: I would ship Lexi and Sam M from jen Trans season. 337 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: I just feel like they would look they just based 338 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 2: on looks period. I think they're both gorgeous people and 339 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: just based on looks. I don't know too much about 340 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 2: them and their personalities, but I would say, just based 341 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 2: on looks, I would ship Lexi and Sam and then Alex. 342 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: We said it already Alex and Jonathan. Who else was 343 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: I think? Who were Off the top of your head, 344 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 2: who are you? 345 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: Who are you shipping? 346 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 3: Okay? Wow? Sam M? Are we talking about the same 347 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 3: Sam M with the tattoo sleeves? 348 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: I think so? But wait, tell me remind. 349 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 3: Me of such a hot take Trista. He I was 350 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 3: going to pick him for villain. I wasn't even going 351 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 3: to give him a ship, but what physically very attractive objectively, however, 352 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 3: his behavior on John's season, I'm not going to give 353 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 3: him a ship. 354 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 2: Okay, wait, will you remind me of his behavior? Tell 355 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: me and the rest of the viewers if they can't 356 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 2: remember like me because they don't have a brain like me. 357 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 3: Okay, I need to actually look up his line. 358 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll say it. Okay, So Sam's tagline for this season. 359 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 2: Sam's is I'm a Southern boy with a shy streak. 360 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 2: So there's not much there. Like, that's pretty short. So 361 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 2: tell me what he was known for. I'm sure I'll 362 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 2: remember it once you say it. But I feel like 363 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:49,120 Speaker 2: at this point, I've been around for twenty three years. 364 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: How many seasons? 365 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: How many years have gone by since two thousand and two? Yeah, 366 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: twenty three years. 367 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 1: So it's been a while, and. 368 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: There's so many people on this show. I just cannot 369 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 2: keep them all straight. So please, Maddie, remind me of 370 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 2: Sam and his wrongdoings on GEN season. 371 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 3: Samm was just really known for being a little bit 372 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 3: full of himself, so got it he I would say 373 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 3: this was a tagline. His line from GEN season was 374 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,400 Speaker 3: keeping the main thing the main thing, and the main 375 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 3: thing was himself. And then after GEN season ended, he 376 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 3: announced that he was starting his own podcast. 377 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Well, we don't need to get into that, 378 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 2: but that is so he may be one of the 379 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 2: ones that people say are not there for the right reasons. 380 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: Is this what we're going, Is this what we're assuming, So. 381 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 3: I think we might be able to assign him the 382 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 3: villain role. 383 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,640 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Hey, don't be sorry. This is your opinion, 384 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: and you never know. 385 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 2: Like I feel like so many times on Paradise and 386 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 2: even on Bachelor or Bachelorette, people become villains who I 387 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 2: never would have guessed would have become a villain. And 388 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: some people who I think are going to be villains villains, 389 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 2: like get. 390 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: That redemption story. 391 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 2: So we never know, you know, we'll have to wait 392 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 2: and see what actually happens. But I think that's interesting. 393 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 2: Another thing is that Kat was a little bit of 394 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 2: a villain last Bachelor in Paradise, So maybe we ship 395 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 2: the villains together, you know what. 396 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: I don't hate that. Let's see what happens there. I 397 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 3: think they could hit it off. They have similar personalities. 398 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 2: I got to. 399 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 3: See Lexi though, actually go on a date with Dale. 400 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 3: I think that. I don't know if you remember, but 401 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 3: from Joey's season, Lexi is very ready to get her 402 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 3: married life started. She's spoken openly about being scared of 403 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 3: having reproductive about how she wants to try as soon 404 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 3: as possible and be a young mom. I think that 405 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 3: that could be a great pairing. They're not that far 406 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 3: apart in age, and they seem like they could be 407 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 3: on the same level of maturity in terms of actually 408 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 3: beginning a serious relationship after Paradise. 409 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: I love that ship. I actually have to say something 410 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: really funny. 411 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: So I was looking at I was looking for the 412 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: trailer on our almost famous Instagram page, and I came 413 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 2: across when the caster was revealed, and I looked at 414 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 2: the comments, and someone put, honestly, I would like to 415 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 2: ship anyone who was there for clout. We all missed 416 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 2: the seasons past that had people there who genuinely wanted 417 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 2: a connection. And someone said, I don't think shipping means 418 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 2: what you think it means. So for all those people 419 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 2: who are maybe listening, shipping means putting them together in 420 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 2: a relationship in your in your like dreamland of who 421 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 2: you want to have a relationship out of this show. 422 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 3: Yes, thank you for clarifying, Yes, we're not shipping them 423 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 3: off the beach. 424 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 2: No, but that would actually be kind of funny to 425 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: actually ship them and maybe put them and ship together 426 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: and leave. 427 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 3: There was a fan boat that you could sort of 428 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 3: kick people off the beach. Oh every week. 429 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: Oh that's a brilliant idea. 430 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 2: Kind of like in Hunger Games when they send the 431 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 2: like the drones or helicopters and. 432 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: They drop like supplies. 433 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 2: You could actually the opposite, like the fans could all 434 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: chime in. 435 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 1: And have someone like your time is up, so so sorry. 436 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: That is hysterical. 437 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 2: I love that that A Big Brother does that too, 438 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 2: where they where they have the fans kind of chime 439 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: in and like win different things along the season. 440 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: They should do that. 441 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 2: They should have like fan interaction, like not physically there 442 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 2: because it tapes obviously, but they should do that somehow. 443 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: I don't know how they could do that, but I 444 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: would love to see a little fan interaction. 445 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: Okay. 446 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 2: So I'm also getting to the point. Oh Love Island 447 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 2: does that with fan interaction. 448 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: Oh, I love that. I think that's genius. Okay. 449 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 2: So Dale said in a statement why he decided to 450 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 2: go on Paradise, and I think it's interesting. He said, 451 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 2: I wanted to give up control and just see what 452 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 2: was out there. I'm really head down with travel and 453 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 2: working projects and things like that, but I definitely realized 454 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 2: that there's more out there. And sometimes you have to 455 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 2: remove yourself from certain situations to get more clarity on that. 456 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 2: So I'm interested to know what kind of clarity he 457 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: wants and if he's truly looking for a relationship. And 458 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 2: of course this is taken completely out of context, so 459 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 2: I haven't read the entire interview and everything that he said, 460 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 2: but I wonder if he spoke at man maybe, you know, 461 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 2: if he spoke to actually wanting to walk away from 462 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 2: Paradise with a relationship or he just wanted to see 463 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 2: what was out there. 464 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,239 Speaker 3: I think he's keeping it intentionally vague. Ah. You know. 465 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 3: His follow up was that he said, I think the 466 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 3: biggest thing now is that I feel really clear about 467 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 3: what I want. But he doesn't saying what he wants to. Uh, 468 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 3: he's not letting us know what he wants. He might know, 469 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 3: but we don't know. And he says, yeah, I'm not 470 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 3: only going to take a different approach, and he thinks 471 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 3: the framework and the setup of this show is a 472 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 3: lot different. 473 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 2: Very interesting, So I wonder, and that might be him 474 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 2: leaving us hanging, or might be like the actual marketing 475 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 2: team producers who are leaving us hanging because they want 476 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: us all to tune in and find out what that 477 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: actually means. Okay, who do you think other than Sam 478 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 2: would be a likely villain? I feel like there are 479 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 2: so many people on this show, like Justin and Hakim 480 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 2: and Alex and Lexi that are definitely not going to 481 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 2: be villains. In my mind, I can't see them being villains. 482 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: But I feel like Zoe could possibly be possibly be 483 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 2: a villain, or maybe she gets a redemption story. 484 00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: Who do you think? 485 00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 3: Oh, I feel like it's it's a tough call because 486 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 3: I can totally see her being a villain unintentionally. I 487 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 3: think that's her biggest step is that she just doesn't 488 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 3: She didn't understand that when she was interrupting that it 489 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 3: made the other women upset with her, and I feel 490 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 3: like she could do that again and unintentionally become the 491 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 3: seasoned villain. So we'll see if she's learning fro mistakes 492 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 3: and if she's from any of the community communication that 493 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 3: she had with the other women on Grant season. If 494 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 3: she hasn't, then I think she could set herself up 495 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 3: for a lot of conflict. 496 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: You're so right. 497 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: I feel like that's part of why it drives me crazy, 498 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 2: because people either want to do that on their own 499 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 2: and interrupt conversations, or they have producers who are saying 500 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 2: like you should go interrupt that conversation and either say 501 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: no or to the producers who's asking you to do that, 502 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 2: or have the wherewithal to know that that can be 503 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: taken as really rude, especially if you do it multiple 504 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 2: times and you've had time with him already, which I 505 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 2: know happened with her and Grant, she already had like 506 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,239 Speaker 2: one on one time on at least one date and 507 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: then interrupted again. So I just feel like there's just 508 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: a part of all of this that you know, treat 509 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: others how you want to be treated in life in general, 510 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 2: in the Bachelor, in Bachelor in Paradise. Okay, who do 511 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: you think is going to be the crier of the 512 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 2: season out of this first batch at least? 513 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 3: Hmmm? I think just from Joey's season, her tagline is 514 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 3: I don't kiss a smoochy pooh ah oh. 515 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: No, remind me how that came up, Like I remember 516 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: her saying smoochy pooh, but remind me if you remember. 517 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 3: I remember it a little bit of context. It was 518 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 3: as big as she maybe thought it was to make 519 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 3: it a whole tagline. I remember asking for a smoochie poo, 520 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 3: but it wasn't like her thing Like, she didn't intro 521 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 3: herself to Joey saying can I have a smooth chiepo 522 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 3: That would be weird. No. I give her a being 523 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 3: on that tagline though, for trying and for trying to 524 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 3: be unique. Again. I don't know if this was production 525 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 3: or if this was her, but it gets a bag. 526 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure. 527 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it was production who set those taglines. 528 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: They might have talked to them about it, but I'm 529 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: pretty sure that that production was like, Okay, this is 530 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: what you're gonna say. 531 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 3: He was a big She was a big crier, I 532 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 3: have to say, And I think it was hard because, 533 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 3: you know, she had a big conflict with Maria and 534 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 3: Joey's season and they really went at it. And in 535 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 3: some case I think that her edit portrayed her as 536 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 3: a villain when she maybe was not necessarily the instigator 537 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 3: and she was trying to resolve it. I really thought 538 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 3: she redeemed herself at the Women Tell All. Actually, so 539 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 3: hopefully she doesn't cry on Paradise, but if she does, 540 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 3: it's a guy. 541 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: Hey. 542 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 2: You know what, there's worse things I mean, look at Ashley. 543 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 2: She was the biggest crier of bachelor in Paradise history, 544 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 2: and now she's happily married with two beautiful boys. So 545 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 2: you know, there are worse things than a crier on 546 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 2: the beaches of Paradise. 547 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 3: So true, and I would love to see Jess get 548 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 3: together I think with Hm looking through our list, Spencer 549 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 3: or maybe even Jonathan. 550 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 2: Ooh, that's a good one. I like that one. We 551 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 2: also did not mention. 552 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: Let's see where is it. I just saw this tagline. 553 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 2: Kyle, you may not remember me, but after this, you'll 554 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: never forget me. I'm like, that's actually really cute because. 555 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 3: He's playing into being sent home week two. I love 556 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 3: it totally. 557 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: I love that. 558 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 2: So we'll see if he actually is someone who will 559 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 2: be memorable and is able to, you know, forge a 560 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: relationship on the beaches of Paradise. 561 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 3: Trista is there? Since they haven't announced the Goldens cast, 562 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 3: is there any yes I want to see on the beach? 563 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I love my Goldens. I just love 564 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 2: my Goldens and I'm sad that they didn't announce it yet, 565 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 2: but obviously it's coming because there have been you know, 566 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: there's been talk about it, and obviously they announced a 567 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 2: few people who were coming, or maybe it was just 568 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 2: Leslie and. 569 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: Gary. 570 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 3: I think it's just lostly. Gary confirmed her right now, Okay, 571 00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 3: got it. 572 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,479 Speaker 2: I Jonathan Rome, so I'm hoping to see him. I 573 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 2: think he's perfect for Paradise. He is the kindest man. 574 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 2: Bob and I had the pleasure of interviewing him on 575 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 2: the podcast, and oh, I just love Jonathan, so I'd 576 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 2: love to see him. Nancy is one of my favorites 577 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: from Golden Bachelor. I would love to see Nancy. And then, 578 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 2: of course I'm pretty positive ninety nine percent sure that 579 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,879 Speaker 2: Kathy will be there because she can't not be there. 580 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: You know, Kathy is good television. She's great television. I 581 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,479 Speaker 2: know she's amazing. So I think Kathy and Nancy would 582 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 2: be great to see them. 583 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 1: And oh gosh, he's one more. 584 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 2: I feel like, not unfortunately for them, but Kelsey's dad 585 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 2: like would have loved to see him, but I believe 586 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 2: he's in a relationship, so I'm pretty sure that he 587 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 2: will not be on the beaches of Paradise. 588 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:00,919 Speaker 1: Would have loved to see him. 589 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: So yes, I feel like, just in general, I love 590 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 2: that Paradise is still going strong because there are so 591 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,959 Speaker 2: many amazing relationships to come out of this show, and 592 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 2: I love the entertainment of it all. I love throwing 593 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,760 Speaker 2: them all on a beach. I love that Hannah Brown's 594 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 2: there this season with Wells and Jesse of course, and 595 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 2: I'm really excited to first tune in. It's going to 596 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 2: be premiering on ABC on Monday, July seventh at eight 597 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 2: pm Central, so you guys can all tune in and 598 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 2: of course come back to Almost Famous. We will definitely 599 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 2: be talking about Paradise on the pod, and Maddie, I 600 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:47,760 Speaker 2: just want to say thank you for joining me today 601 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 2: on this breaking news story and talking all things Paradise. 602 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. This was so fun. 603 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: You'll never your love