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Speaker 1: And the Bonnets question who the fuck guarden me? Please

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Speaker 1: don't say Andrew motherfucking Boguet.

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Speaker 2: There were defensive schemes that we could have thrown at

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Speaker 3: One is not letting you get the ball. Ain't gonna

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna guard you with a guy in front

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Speaker 1: of you, the guy behind you. They did that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't on the court though, Oh so what you're

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Speaker 2: I'm standing in the front. Ain't no ball getting what

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Speaker 2: you mean? I got seven seven three wingspan and I

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Speaker 2: got nine four wingspan. You can't get the ball through me?

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Speaker 1: No, it's gonna go over you, dray Man, Andrew Bogus

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Speaker 1: behind Stop, I'm in the front.

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Speaker 3: Stop it.

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Speaker 1: We're leaving somebody over there to shoot because your motherfuckers

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Speaker 3: Center?

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Speaker 1: Me? Draymond stopped me, Draima And then hey, then we

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Speaker 1: gotta fight all what you gonna fight that? And guess what,

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Speaker 1: You're getting thrown out the game and me getting thrown

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Speaker 1: y'all lose, So I guess we're not gonna fight.

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Speaker 4: Then, Yeah, I do a pig, big big can.

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Speaker 5: Pull me to wig. I do a pig, big big,

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Speaker 4: I do a pig, big.

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Speaker 1: Big, come put me to win.

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Speaker 5: I do a pig, big big, singing it again.

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Speaker 1: I have a pig.

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Speaker 5: I do a pig, big big, singing it again.

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Speaker 4: I do a big.

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Speaker 1: It's a shock with the big podcast. Adam's out here today,

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Speaker 1: that voice. But we here were one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: people in the game today, Draymond Green. Draymond, how you doing, brother, Gray?

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Speaker 3: Brother?

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Speaker 2: I appreciate you having me private. Oh no, Delta, you

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Speaker 3: You fly provably. Oh you don't fly by yourself private? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah me either. I did it before. I felt like

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Speaker 2: Noh, I'm just sitting there like I got nobody to

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Speaker 3: Fuck?

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Speaker 1: Is this? No? You know? What.

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Speaker 1: You know why I don't flow by myself because if

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Speaker 1: Shane went down. Yeah, I want that ship just to

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Speaker 1: I flew by myself one time that motherfucker turbule was

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Speaker 1: and I was like, oh shit, this ain't it. Motheruck player.

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Speaker 1: let's get to it. The MVP voting came out the

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Speaker 1: other day. Two part question. First question, what is your

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Speaker 2: I think my definition of what the MVP is is

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Speaker 2: is a guy who number one, you're unstoppable. Every single night.

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Speaker 2: You can create a shot for yourself. You can get

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Speaker 2: That's very valuable, right, And oftentimes today it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I think it's the guy who night in and night out,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta win games.

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Speaker 2: We don't want somebody in the temsee win or not

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Speaker 1: You're a defensive guy. Rudy Gobert on his fourth Defensive

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Speaker 3: Joker?

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Speaker 2: Well, the Defensive Player of the Year has historically been

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Speaker 2: an award of someone who gets blocks, someone who gets steals.

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Speaker 2: Like you look at these couple of things and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: this guy blocks three shots a game. He's the defensive

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Speaker 1: Now. What I will say is this, I think Rudy

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Speaker 1: Gobert has gotten a lot better defensively.

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Speaker 3: Now than what he was years ago.

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Speaker 2: This year was actually the first time that I thought

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Speaker 2: He was checking, he was getting out the people was

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Speaker 2: bringing him a pick and roll, he was switching, he

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Speaker 2: our game plan was always to pick on him, like

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Speaker 2: I want to be.

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Speaker 1: Like.

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Speaker 2: I want them to not want me in the action

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Speaker 3: That's how I look at it.

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Speaker 2: And I always thought, you know, when I looked at

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Speaker 2: And so this one I actually think he deserved. The

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Speaker 2: It's like, no, you drive, he come week side, he blocking.

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Speaker 2: I think he earned this one this year, But all

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Speaker 2: the other years, I was a little sketch.

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Speaker 1: The Kim Bama Tumbo, four time Defensive Player of the

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Speaker 2: It will because when you look at the Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 2: it is the Basketball Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: And I think we we oftentimes see guys, some guys

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Speaker 1: I think it was game two. Jamal Murray gets upset,

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Speaker 1: throws a towel on the court. Then he gets upset.

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Speaker 1: He throws a heating pack on the court. The rulings,

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Speaker 1: that was Draymond Green, what would happen? I would have

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Speaker 1: got suspended for the rest of the playoffs for sure.

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Speaker 1: I got suspended. I tried to hit Brin, got suspended

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Speaker 2: I missed. You tried to hit him. Damn right, I

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Speaker 2: ass man. You'll step over my shoulder. So a lot

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Speaker 2: You don't need to go over my shoulder. You go

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Speaker 3: And so I missed.

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Speaker 2: Everybody always say, man, Draymond got suspended. He need to

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Speaker 2: stop getting technical files. He got suspended because he continues

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Speaker 2: understand the marker. And back to your Jamorrow Murray question.

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Speaker 1: So we do a say, we call the Big Break

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Speaker 2: Like, if the Minnesota timber Wills never win in the

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Speaker 1: You're not badding an eye If the Indiana Pacers never

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Speaker 2: And then that championship team show you why they are champions,

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Speaker 3: It's champions. There's nothing in order.

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Speaker 2: By the time you win a championship in NBA, there's

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Speaker 2: They already and I spoke about this on my podcast,

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Speaker 2: Road against Phoenix and win and went on the road

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Speaker 1: I got Dallas no problem, Boston and Cleveland Boston easy.

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Speaker 1: Big Podcast without the General. When you got your I

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Speaker 2: Uh, it really. It took me through a range of

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Speaker 2: I play basketball, like I am a stand up citizen.

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Speaker 2: I try to be as good to people as I

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Speaker 2: just say this now, the child, the child in me,

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Speaker 2: this is everything for me growing up as a Shaquille

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Speaker 3: Orlando Magic. Zip up, Wanseie.

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Speaker 1: I rememberjamas, Yeah, little kids, zip up baby, Hold on, NBA.

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Speaker 3: You motherfucker's on me. Some money.

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Speaker 1: Shit I ain't never heard about, no shock, motherfucking pajamas.

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Speaker 1: number one, I want to say thank you. But and

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00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 1: like seeing all of these people say, yo, he needs help,

437
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: Like I'm a stand up dude, I need help because

438
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Speaker 1: of something.

439
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 2: Not doing a basketball court. Of course, I fucking hate

440
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 2: you on a basketball court. Every we get criticized for

441
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 2: being friends with guys on a basketball court. You can't

442
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 2: have So you lay somebody on the basketball court, fucking

443
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 2: you're fucking terrorists.

444
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: Be nice to somebody on the basketball court.

445
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 2: You're too soft, Like guys are too soft, they're friends,

446
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 2: they're this every thing is a problem.

447
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 1: And so in sitting there and watch people attack my character.

448
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 2: As a man, as a human being over something that

449
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 2: happened on the basketball court.

450
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 3: It's crazy to me.

451
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 2: And like I said, it took me, it took me

452
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Speaker 2: a bunch of different places because I'm like, ah, this

453
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 2: has now gotten to a point of where I'm not

454
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Speaker 2: sure this is what I want. You know, I'm not

455
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Speaker 2: sure I want to continue to play basketball. If this

456
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 2: is what it's become. You do this on the basketball court,

457
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Speaker 2: you're bad human.

458
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Speaker 1: Like you.

459
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Speaker 3: I got kids, four of them. My kids coming to

460
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 3: me like daddy, slow down. Shot. I was about to say,

461
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Speaker 3: chance catching you.

462
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Speaker 1: You know. My kids coming up to me like daddy,

463
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Speaker 1: They said you need help? Like you all right?

464
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I'm great. Like do I look all

465
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Speaker 2: right to you? They're like yeah, but I saw something

466
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 2: on YouTube. It says you need Somebody says you need help.

467
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 2: And so when it starts to extend to my kids,

468
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, listen, that's what comes with the that's what

469
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 2: comes with the job as a part of the territory.

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Speaker 3: Right.

471
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 2: But again, these are claims on my name that has

472
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: no factual evidence, Like this is not based on facts.

473
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: This is based on what I did on the basketball court.

474
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Speaker 2: If I'm honest with you, the same person that sit

475
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Speaker 2: here and talk to you today. Is not the person

476
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Speaker 2: that even go on the basketball court, right, like, not

477
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: even close to the same person. That is a totally

478
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 2: different human being. When I step on the court, I

479
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 2: will I will slap the shit out of you. I

480
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Speaker 2: will do whatever I need to do to win a

481
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Speaker 2: basketball game. I'm not that way in my everyday life.

482
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 2: And so to see people taking shots at my character

483
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 2: to me, I, like I said, I went through a

484
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: range of emotions. I was pissed off, I was sad.

485
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 2: I wanted to fight the world. I want to not

486
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: see the world I won't like and when I say,

487
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: ain't no suicidal shit, ain't ain't that serious to me?

488
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: And I appreciate you hitting me, But a lot of people,

489
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Speaker 2: even people that think you respect the like going on

490
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: TV like and just feeding into the narrative. I'll tell

491
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Speaker 2: you one person, I haven't talked to him much since

492
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: Steven A. Smith really pissed me off. And the reason

493
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: he pissed me off was because he hit me. He's like, Yo,

494
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Speaker 2: it's been hard for a lot of us to talk

495
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 2: about you these last few few days. And you know,

496
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Speaker 2: for me, I'm like, okay, it's been hard for me

497
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Speaker 2: to watch, but I'm watching it because I want to

498
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Speaker 2: see everything that everybody have to say. But the thing

499
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Speaker 2: that piss me off is you tell me it's been

500
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: hard for people to y'all to talk about me. But

501
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: not one time, like.

502
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Speaker 3: Stephen.

503
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Speaker 2: At any time I meet someone and they say something

504
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: about you, it's never like yo, I like him, be cool.

505
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: It's always like, man, fuck that dude here, character is this,

506
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 2: he's that? And I always say back, I actually know

507
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 2: the guy, Like the guy is actually a cool dude.

508
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,239
Speaker 2: Like I know you could take what you want from

509
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: TV screen. I actually know the guy. He's a cool

510
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 2: dude and a real dude. And then you get the

511
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 2: opportunity to talk about me and listen, I know you

512
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 2: got a job to do. I know you gotta do

513
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 2: your thing and say what you gotta say. But now,

514
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 2: at one point, did you say, well, y'all are saying

515
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: this person is fucked up and this person needs help.

516
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 2: Now I know the person. Say what you want about

517
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 2: the basketball player. That's fine, but I know the person,

518
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,640
Speaker 2: and by the way, it just wasn't him. To sit

519
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: back and see those that claim to know and appreciate

520
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 2: me as a human being just flow with the narrative

521
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 2: because it was easy to do. I lost a lot

522
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Speaker 2: of respect for a lot of people.

523
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Speaker 1: Shacks Lakers, get you a golden say Warriors seven games series.

524
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: You pick any any any of my championship team, any

525
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: of your championship team, who wins, and the bonnets question

526
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,880
Speaker 1: who the fuck guardened me? Please don't say Andrew. Motherfucking

527
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: boke it. So here's the thing, and you could be honest.

528
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Speaker 3: You hurt my feeling.

529
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Speaker 2: I don't think any one player on our team could

530
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 2: have guarded you. I do think there were defensive schemes

531
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: that we could have thrown at you to to affect you.

532
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: One is not letting you get the ball so we

533
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: can charge you with a guy in front of you,

534
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: the guy behind you.

535
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 3: They did that. Yeah, I wasn't on the court, though,

536
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: you know that defensive defensive schemes like that. I would

537
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 3: I listen, I Portland did that, Sacramento did that.

538
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: Watch. I wasn't on the floor. I'm making defensive game plans,

539
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: all right, So what you're gonna stand behind me? I'm

540
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: standing in the front. Ain't no ballgain however, what you

541
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 1: mean the ball on They're just gonna throw it over

542
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: your head. I'm not I'm not six feet, you ain't

543
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: seven feet. I got seven seven three wings man and

544
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: I got nine four wings pan. Yeah, but you still

545
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 1: gotta get the ball. You can't get the ball through me. No,

546
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: it's gonna go over here, bogus behind Stop, I'm in

547
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: the front.

548
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 3: Stop it.

549
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 2: We're leaving somebody over there to shoe because your motherfuckers

550
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 2: couldn't shoot.

551
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 3: During that time.

552
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: I got Bob be Shure, I got Rick Bob. Bob

553
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: Being's just about to stand out there launching. Y'all stand

554
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: out there launching. Nobody was just launching threes then shot.

555
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

556
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: I don't care how you're right about that. But however,

557
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: but however, Boge is gonna be in fire trouble. You're

558
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: not getting the ball.

559
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 3: Shot.

560
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: But when I'm running down the court, he's gonna try

561
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: to try to fucking muscle me with his weak ass.

562
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: They're gonna get one file, he's gonna get two five.

563
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: Now who your backup?

564
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 3: Center me?

565
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: Draymond stopped me? Draymond shock. I don't think I could

566
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 1: have guarded. I'm not saying but I'm not saying that.

567
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: However, you would have had to bring your big ass

568
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: how did that drop? You do realize they created, they created,

569
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: which nobody does anymore because they can't. But they used

570
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: to call it shocking the screen. Shock the screen or

571
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 2: you just stay back in the PA got a shack man.

572
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,960
Speaker 2: If you stay back there, I'm gonna nail whoever garden stuff.

573
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna nail whoever guard playing. We're gonna dot your

574
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: eye every play. Okay, but you know what's gonna happen

575
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 2: after that. I'm gonna tell de fish get up on them,

576
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: let them drive, and I'm gonna lay his little lass out.

577
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 2: The fish can't make him drive, I'm gonna whack him

578
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: with these screens. You ever seen me set screens all

579
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: the tickets? Won play all the tickets? One player, get

580
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 2: up on him and when he drives, I'm laying his

581
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: ass out. And then hey, then we gotta fight what

582
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: you gotta fight? Then guess what You're getting thrown out

583
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 2: the game and me getting thrown out the game. Who's

584
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: not gonna hurt worse?

585
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: You?

586
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 3: T So I guess lose, So I guess we're not

587
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 3: gonna fight. Then, so.

588
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: Let's rewind to take who's your backup center? Our backup

589
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: center was?

590
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: Uh?

591
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: It depends on which year, But forget on who wins

592
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: Javelle McGee, who who wins that series? We win the series? Sure, Trademond,

593
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,959
Speaker 1: stop it, Sure listen. I love you and I love

594
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: your comments. But ain't no way how we lose? How

595
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: do we lose?

596
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 3: Because me and the coaster and Big Sha baal and.

597
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: Trading two you get your dumbs were trading two's for threes. Yeah,

598
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: but y'all ain't gonna hit threes all the time. We're

599
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: gonna hit enough of them, yeah, but not not all

600
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: the time. You just got to hit the three at

601
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Speaker 1: Kobe Clay. We'll continue this conversation. You can look at

602
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: you can look at Clayton Clay. Then we'll continue this

603
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: conversation on your podcast. Sure, ain't nobody guarding him? Ain't

604
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: nobody guarden and ain't nobody garden stuff? And ain't nobody

605
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: garden Clay. I understand that. But y'all not beating us? Yeah,

606
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: I think we are? And five maybe six.

607
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: Six? What six years when I'm six years, when i'm

608
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,959
Speaker 3: forty six games?

609
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: Max?

610
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 3: Six game? Don't you know? Sacramento said that Portland said

611
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 3: that you know where I grew up at? Right?

612
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: I know he grew up at Saginaw, Michigan in the

613
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: state of Michigan, which is home of the Detroit Pistons.

614
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:28,719
Speaker 2: Y'all lost to the Pistons in OH four. And by

615
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: the way, then my big bros. I love them, I

616
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: respect him, but like they scored seventy points a game,

617
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 2: we would have mopped them. You have to mop them too.

618
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: They scored seventy points. Let me say one of y'all

619
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: games was like six seventy to sixty.

620
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Speaker 1: Seven, fans, I didn't get the ball like I was

621
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: supposed to seventeen points a quarter shot.

622
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was then Okay, seventeen points in a

623
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: quarters you lose by forty. That's all.

624
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: I forgot to answer some question which style were playing

625
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: the new style of the old style.

626
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 3: That's the thing.

627
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: If we playing the old style, we lose, uh, And

628
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: if we playing style, we win, no chance. Bro, I

629
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: was the first big one fucker to run the court.

630
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna be round all by.

631
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 3: The time you was with the Lakers, you weren't moving

632
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 3: like that.

633
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: No, it was I mean not like not, Bro. My

634
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: first champion, the third one I was big check first

635
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: one was no first one. I was skinny shock. The

636
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: second one is medium shock, the third one was fat checked,

637
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: and the fourth one was fat out shack. So so

638
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: when you were so when you was skinny shock, I

639
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: was coming up out of that that drop. You was

640
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: gonna come up to the three point line if I

641
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: had to every now and then you got your biggs split?

642
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: Did y'all think I was picking on Javel mcgame when

643
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: I was doing checking for you? For sure used to.

644
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 1: That's my fault. It's his clips shock check and who

645
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: is a show? I didn't it's his clips. It ain't

646
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: like I said, find me some jabail like he did

647
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: the clips and.

648
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: Check.

649
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: The food was created to get rid of the word bloopers.

650
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: And we all have bloopers, like when I used to

651
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: try to bring the ball up and you know, to

652
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: do the manage time thing. These guys name used to

653
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: call me Tragic Bronson. Yeah, he had tragic Browns. So

654
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: so when I was creating Shack, the food was just

655
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 1: to create bloopers. So I don't know why y'all think

656
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: I was picking on I mean, you was definitely I

657
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: was laughing, That's all I was doing. You were definitely

658
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: a little it was bro It's his clips. They definitely

659
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: were his clips. They were hilarious too, man, Javel, my god,

660
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: though you know what's crazy?

661
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: I like Javel too. There's a common misconception that he's

662
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: a dumb guy. He's maybe one of the smartest players

663
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: I've ever played with. He's not dumb at all, but

664
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 2: far he's like a computer geek like like but basketball.

665
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: He had some rough moments. No, no, but big guys,

666
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: when we try to do little shit and it fuck up,

667
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: it just looks funnier. When Rudy Gobert got followed and

668
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 2: did that yesterday, that's shocking the fool you saw that. Yeah,

669
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, you're seventy five fucking duncan.

670
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

671
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: He I do this to all NBA players. First they

672
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: talk about bron and Jordan's the best the Goats, and

673
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 1: I always ask people, how come my guy's not in

674
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: that conversation? Do you think my guy deserves to be

675
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: in that conversation?

676
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: Kobe? Yes, for sure? So how come he's not all

677
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 3: the time.

678
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: Here's why I think he's not because Number one, he

679
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: played with you and people hold out against him. Uh.

680
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: Number two, I think Kobe kind of fell in a

681
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: weird time And what I mean by that is Mike

682
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 2: left the league. When Mike left the league, y'all start,

683
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 2: y'all were dominating, like.

684
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: And then.

685
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: You left the Lakers. When you left the Lakers, they

686
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 2: had a few rough years. Wasn't great, Smush Parker like

687
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 2: it just it wasn't They didn't have great roster. Rudy

688
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 2: Tom Johnovian is like that was that was an epic

689
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 2: fail like it just it wasn't great. And while it

690
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: wasn't going great, there was a young guy in Cleveland

691
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: starting to make his hay. And so in the years

692
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 2: where Cold could have been dominating, which he was from

693
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: a number standpoint, but they weren't winning anything in those years,

694
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: Bron was making his hay and starting to make his

695
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 2: name and is he the best player? And I think

696
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 2: the amount of time that it was a consistence that

697
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 2: Kobe was the number one in the league, like the

698
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: top guy, I don't think it was long enough for

699
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: everybody to say, how like to put him in that conversation,

700
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 2: because Bron then came and put his name in the conversation.

701
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 2: And so from that point on, it's tugle war like

702
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 2: Christmas Day game, those two gods, it's tugle war, and

703
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 2: so I don't think he accumulated enough people in saying

704
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 2: that he dominated the way Mike dominated, in the length

705
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: length of time that Mike dominated Bron, the length of

706
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: time that he's dominated, I don't think Kobe dominated himself

707
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: for that length of time and not I think that's

708
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 2: why people don't put him in the conversation. It's a

709
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 2: subjective conversation, for sure. I would just like to hear

710
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: his name in the conversation, like right, They just kind

711
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: of overlook him and just say and listen, Mike, Brian, Kobe.

712
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: He can go either way, but I just try to

713
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: fight for him and just at least at least when

714
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 2: you talk about the goats, put his name, and I

715
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 2: think he should be. I personally think he should be.

716
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: But the things that we think and the way we

717
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 2: see these things, most people can't see them through this lens, right,

718
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 2: So I have no doubt in my mind that he

719
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: should be. I mean, you look at the numbers, you

720
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 2: look at the meaning, you look at the impact.

721
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 3: That he had on the game.

722
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: The fuck's still run around talking about mamba mentality. What

723
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: are you talking about? You know, goddamn mamba mentality? Like,

724
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: shut up, I hit a shot, mamba, shut up, you

725
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: goddamn mamba mentality.

726
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 3: I thought I was the only one who felt that way.

727
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: Give me a break.

728
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 1: Shut up ain't even a thing for real. That's Kobe exactly.

729
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,959
Speaker 2: So I think when you look at all of those things,

730
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 2: the impact that he had a game run around Kobe like,

731
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 2: you know, like the fact that he had you don't

732
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: have that impact if you.

733
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 3: Not one of the great greatest effort.

734
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys we've seen come through score

735
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: do this, but Kobe man, I think he's definitely in

736
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 2: a conversation.

737
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 3: But I do think that's the reason why most people

738
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: don't put them there. So give me your Mount Rushmore.

739
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 1: My my Mount Rushmore is cold shock, bron and Steph.

740
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: I love you, big fella. I appreciate that that that's

741
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: but apparently there's some idiots. I didn't work hard, but

742
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, and did you hear my AI di record?

743
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: You didn't hear it?

744
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna play for you. It wasn't me.

745
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: I just I just typed some things in computer, hit

746
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: a button in it. It spit out and came out

747
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: kind of nice. Respect. So before you retire, is there

748
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 1: one player you would like to play.

749
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 3: With before I retire? How many years you have left?

750
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 2: I got maybe three four years left before I retire.

751
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: Is there one player that I wanted to play with?

752
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: I thought i'd have the opportunity this summer to check

753
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 2: that off the box. It didn't happen for me, But

754
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 2: I would have loved to play with Broun. Not necessarily

755
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 2: I want to be on his NBA team, but I

756
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: just would have loved the opportunity to play together because

757
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: I want to see how his mind works on a

758
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 2: day to day basis in a basketball center like.

759
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: I am.

760
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: Like when I look at guys with IQ, I think

761
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: that's one of the best things about Broun is his

762
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: IQ and I can respect that, and so I would

763
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,879
Speaker 1: have loved the opportunity just to see on a day

764
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: to day basis how his mind works, Like when something

765
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: is going on, there's adjustment that needs to be made,

766
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: how you process that, what's your process, like the things

767
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: that you go through.

768
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: How you land here or land there. I would have

769
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: loved the opportunity, But for me, I there's for that

770
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 2: reason I want. I will have loved to play with

771
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: bron But they're like I've gotten. I've had the opportunity

772
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: to play with the most electrifying player of the last

773
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: fifteen years. And I've gotten to see that on the

774
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: day today and probably last thirty like you name whatever,

775
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 2: but I've gotten to see that on the day today. Basis,

776
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: there's not much else I can go see that's gonna

777
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: make me be like, ah, man, I want to play

778
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: with this dude, like I got to play. I've gotten

779
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: to play with Steph Curry for twelve years, watch what

780
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 2: he do night in the night off for twelve years.

781
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 2: Like the way he's changed the game of basketball. I

782
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: got to watch that change firsthand. When you watch kids

783
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: play today, theyf I can run around shooting threes from

784
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 2: the hip like and it's because of Steph Curry. I

785
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: got to watch that literally happen firsthand. So for me personally,

786
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: I don't really need to look anywhere further of someone

787
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: that I want to play with. All the guys that

788
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: I would really love to play with on an NBA team,

789
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 2: they're not here no more like you retired, MJ retired,

790
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 2: Cole gone. Like when you look at the guys that

791
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: I would ai like, those are guys that I would

792
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: have loved to play with.

793
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 1: But as far as the NBA goes Bron's mindset, I

794
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: would love to see. But man, I've played with Steph Curry.

795
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: I don't need to look any further for excitement, for greatness,

796
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: for work ethic, for how God leads, like Steph never

797
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 2: does the wrong thing ever, like he will.

798
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: Make the right decision. I don't mean like a turnover

799
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: a basketball.

800
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: I'm talking about like in life, like off the floor,

801
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 2: or he wouldn't If there's something like ah, man, I

802
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 2: don't know if I want to go to this, Like

803
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: we gotta go to this fucking thing. It don't make sense.

804
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 2: He like, yeah, well we should do this. Boom always

805
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: the right thing. Like I got the chance to play

806
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: with Steph Curry, I don't need to look much further.

807
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: So you have three rings four four. So if you

808
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 2: have the opportunity to ring Chase into your career and

809
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: that they need you for you know, your play, your leadership,

810
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: would you do that?

811
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: If if there is something that I could offer to

812
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: a team, and I'm like, oh, I'm the missing piece there,

813
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: I can go help that team get over the humph.

814
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 2: That's a totally different thing, right, Like that's like I

815
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 2: can go contribute to a championship. That's different than like, man,

816
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: let me go see if I could just fall into

817
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 2: one more you know what I'm saying, Like, No, I

818
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 2: want to be able to contribute and that has like

819
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 2: a big like like a big four Phoenix for example,

820
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: Phoenix said, hey, we want to we need you.

821
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 3: Would you?

822
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: Ah? I think that would be a hell of an opportunity,

823
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 2: But the Warriors would have to not want me anymore

824
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 2: because I've been there for twelve years. The thing like

825
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 2: people tend to forget, but the Warriors was the laughing

826
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: stock of the NBA when I rapped there, won twenty

827
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: three games a year before when I rapped there. I

828
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 2: told the story recently about Marshall Lynch laughing at me

829
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 2: when I was like, I'm getting drafted to I got

830
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 2: just got drafted to the Warriors, Like, ah, y'all suck.

831
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: Like I remember those days. I remember walking around downtown

832
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: Oakland as a rookie, passing our tickets guys getting on

833
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 2: the bar, the train and through the rush through the

834
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: bay the bar, passing our tickets to games as a rookie.

835
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 2: I remember that's that's October twenty twelve, we won our

836
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 2: first championship June twenty fifteen, wasn't that far removed.

837
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: So we built this thing up from the ground.

838
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: Man.

839
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, it's a different feeling for us

840
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:58,959
Speaker 2: because that's our baby, like that the Warriors wasn't shit

841
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: they were And so to see that growth and take

842
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: part in that growth, that's not something you just walk

843
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 2: away from. Just to walk away from, they'd have to

844
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: not want me anymore, and for me personally, because I

845
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 2: love that organization, I will always do right by the

846
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: organization because it's no ill will for me. No, it's

847
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: not like I've been treated bad, you know, Andre and

848
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 2: Sean them they would always tell us like, yo, y'all

849
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: don't know the real NBA, And I I can raise

850
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 2: my hand and say, gladly, I don't.

851
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: I don't know the real nasty side of the business

852
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: that they'll be. I never had to see that, and

853
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm very thankful that organization that I haven't. And so

854
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: they'd have to not want me for me to go

855
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: somewhere else. And then at that point it's like, all right,

856
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: which team can I go help that can win a championship?

857
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 3: Right?

858
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: But not just like ah, like if I had to

859
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 2: stay in go to State another five years and we

860
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 2: not make the playoffs for five years straight. I'm totally

861
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 2: fine with that, not because I'm not a competitor, but

862
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: because I'd rather do it. I'd rather struggle with the

863
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 2: same guys that I succeeded with. It ain't about uh,

864
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: we're struggling now, I need to go that way. Nah,

865
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: I rather struggle the same way we succeeded together. I'd

866
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: rather struggle together as opposed to, Oh, I can go

867
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: over here and do this. Well, if they don't want me,

868
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: they're great. That's my mindset. I'm gonna go over here

869
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Speaker 2: and try to do that. But as long as they'll

870
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 2: have me, I got no reason to ever want to

871
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: lead that place.

872
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you coming. Biggest hater inside and outside

873
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 1: the NBA. Biggest hater inside the NBA and outside the NBA.

874
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: That's interesting because it's a lot of haters, a lot

875
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: biggest hater in the NBA.

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00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: Is uh, what's it that's the thing like in the NBA,

877
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 2: Like are these media guys consider being in the NBA

878
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 2: or no? No, right, no, okay, So it's it's somebody

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00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 2: actually in the NBA and if you want to add

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00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 2: a media got, go ahead. I mean, the biggest hater

881
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: outside the NBA is Skip Bayless for sure, Dude, just

882
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 2: sit up there and spew hate. I hope I'll give

883
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 2: him a sound bite for a show because it's dying.

884
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: But he's just sit out there like spew hate. Uh

885
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 2: Like when you're hating on Lebron's James every single day,

886
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: for instance, Like there's nothing this man has done to

887
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 2: give you something to hate on every single day, like

888
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 2: you're a hater. Uh So i'd say, outside the NBA

889
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: is for short, Skip Bayless. Inside the NBA, I'm gonna

890
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: have to go.

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00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: Man.

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00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: That's tough one because guy's been trying to hide the hate,

893
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: trying to like they be trying to hide the hate

894
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: for real. Hot, the biggest hater inside the NBA is Nurkic.

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Speaker 1: I knew he was gonna say that hater need help,

896
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 1: that brother still need help, Like you need help, big Softy.

897
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: And what's the tweet you send them when they got

898
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: when they lost.

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00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 3: Tweet at us?

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00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: That's all, folks, And you got the worst playoff record

901
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: in NBA history, the worst win percentage, And then but

902
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: you're gonna tweet that's all folks. Now I can go

903
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: to sleep for five years and wake up, you still

904
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: won't have half the playoff wins. We we we've accumulated.

905
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: How you gonna tweet that? But I need help? I'm

906
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: the one that needs help? Who needs help here?

907
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: Because clearly, you know you ever seen somebody like hey,

908
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 2: who's gonna tell him? Who's gonna tell him?

909
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: That?

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00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 3: That was just stupid.

911
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: You set yourself up a failure because it's a guaranteed,

912
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 2: proven fact that you're gonna lose. It's actually not to

913
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: proven fact that when we're in the playoffs we're gonna lose,

914
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: because four times we want it. It is a proven

915
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: fact that even if you get there, not even lose

916
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 2: the series, like we know you're gonna lose the series,

917
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: you're gonna struggle to get wins like a win in

918
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 2: the series. You can't say that like that's just like

919
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: but I need help and so that to me when

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Speaker 2: you're just sitting at home watching like that's all folks,

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Speaker 2: Like bro, by the way, we the tenC my man,

922
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: think about that you sitting at home tweeting that ten

923
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: Seed is done. Brother, we were actually supposed to lose

924
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: with tense. We barely skated into the plane. That's all, folks,

925
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: that's hate. I mean, come on, like, that's hat. So

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00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 2: I gotta go with big Softy and there you have it.

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00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: That's all, folks. Appreciate your brother, y'all. Wouldn't have beat us,

928
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 2: don't dray By, you're tripping jack.

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Speaker 3: We was sure. Wouldn't be sure, would Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Who the fuck garden me? Please don't say Andrew. Motherfucking

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Speaker 1: boke it