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Speaker 1: M coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage

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Speaker 1: Campus in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily on

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Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts bow Bishop and Nathan Zagura.

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Speaker 1: What's up Browns fans. Nathan Zagura here along with Jason Gibbs.

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Speaker 1: Bow Bishop is off today as we get ready for

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Speaker 1: the kickoff of Cleveland Brown's training camp two tomorrow here

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Speaker 1: at the Cross Country Mortgage Campus. Today, the veterans have

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Speaker 1: reported they are in the building, the coaches are everywhere.

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Speaker 1: By the way, they have a sweet looking Have you

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Speaker 1: seen that T shirt hoodie? Everybody he's wearing gorgeous have

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Speaker 1: already looked wondering how long it was gonna take you.

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Speaker 1: That's why I went to Jeff. I went to Jeff

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Speaker 1: and said, Jeff, not even it's not even on the

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Speaker 1: site that like Jeff has access to. It's nowhere. Is

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Speaker 1: that a melon pursuit of perfection? Again, it feels like it.

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Speaker 1: I desire it. It feels like it's probably a standard issue.

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Speaker 1: Um that every team will have something similar to that,

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Speaker 1: a T shirt hoodie. It's beautiful, but we will will

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Speaker 1: get that when we can't look. The fact of the

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Speaker 1: matter is the waiting game continues. I'm sick of it, Gibb,

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Speaker 1: are you sick of it? I'm like, just let me know. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm at the point like this week has just come

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Speaker 1: practice field tomorrow, like at least we'll have something to

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Speaker 1: talk about. And it's hard to talk about this team.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to talk about this season. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: talk about what it's supposed to be. I went on

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Speaker 1: the really big show earlier today and you know, they

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Speaker 1: kept they're asking me a Risen and Hammer asked me

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Speaker 1: a lot of questions about this and I have no idea,

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Speaker 1: I have no insights. Nobody here knows anything. And I

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Speaker 1: mean at the absolute highest levels of our organization, nobody

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Speaker 1: has any clue as to what is going to happen

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Speaker 1: or when something will happen. Everybody shares the same sentiment,

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Speaker 1: which is we would love something to happen sooner rather

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Speaker 1: than later so we can get this thing moving and

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Speaker 1: we can understand what this team could be. That's the

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Speaker 1: hard part about it is you just have no ability

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Speaker 1: to truly know what this team is capable of. You know,

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Speaker 1: if we have DeShawn Watson for thirteen games called a

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Speaker 1: four game suspension. That changes thing. You're I think you're

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Speaker 1: a favorite to win the a f C North. You're

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Speaker 1: You have a team that absolutely has the ability to

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Speaker 1: go to the super Bowl and win it. If it's

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Speaker 1: you know, no games, of course, same if it's too

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Speaker 1: same if it's six. Okay, now we're getting into the

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Speaker 1: gonna have to go right and Jacoby's gotta play well,

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Speaker 1: which is capable of doing. But how do we know

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Speaker 1: what this team is? And at this point, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's been so much speculation about the reason it's taking

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Speaker 1: so long is Sue Robinson won the NFL to come

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Speaker 1: to a settlement with the brow with Deshaun Watson and

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Speaker 1: the NFL p A, so that you know, whatever ruling

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Speaker 1: into things. Albert Breer comes out yesterday and says that

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Speaker 1: the NFL won't appeal any ruling made by Sue Robinson,

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Speaker 1: which means, you know, if she were to say two,

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Speaker 1: And it's funny. So at USA today, uh Nate Davis

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Speaker 1: one lost records to every team? Did you see what

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Speaker 1: he has the Browns at don't? I do not? Okay?

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Speaker 1: What do you got? Is this a guess the stats? No?

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Speaker 1: What do you think it's? His projection for our record

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Speaker 1: what he did today. My guess is he thinks Deshaun

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Speaker 1: this is not a six and eleven football team Gibbes

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Speaker 1: could get to Vegas and oppose Nate Davis and say,

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Speaker 1: Nate Davis, the Browns finishes the seventh worst team or worse,

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Speaker 1: you win the bet. The Browns finished better than the

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Speaker 1: We've been I for seven minutes and five seconds, all right,

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Speaker 1: that's a wild that's wild to me. Um. I just

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Speaker 1: and maybe it's finally like I've reached. I think today

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Speaker 1: been gotten to you, like it got to bow Bishop

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Speaker 1: the week ago before we left for the week. It's

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Speaker 1: it is is what it is. Hit us with it,

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Speaker 1: day before we try again. Very sad, very sad. We're

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Speaker 1: That's a kiss of death. That is a dreaded vote

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Speaker 1: the Shawn Watson. That's what we're looking for. But the

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Speaker 1: Or you don't need a vote of confidence. You are Gibbe,

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Speaker 1: The we're working through something with the app in the stream,

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Speaker 1: it can't work out, but it's odd that he's got

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Speaker 1: that that has to be in there. I just it's

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Speaker 1: it's not a good look. I know you don't like

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Speaker 1: that term, but that there's something like number one, I

428
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: think it's weird that the owners demanding it. That that's

429
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Speaker 1: kind of strange and that I don't I don't know

430
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 1: what that is. But number two, bad job by Kyler's

431
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Speaker 1: people to allow that to be put in bad Yes,

432
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Speaker 1: bad job for them. I mean, if that's how the

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Speaker 1: only way, if that, if that is what came down

434
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Speaker 1: to him getting paid or not paid, there are plenty

435
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: of things to be alarmed about there. Yeah. Uh, here's

436
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Speaker 1: something else from Jerry Joness press conference, which is becoming

437
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: very newsworthy. He said, uh, he took quote dead aim

438
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Speaker 1: at now Cleveland Browns wide receiver Mari Cooper said, when

439
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: you make that much money, the bar is higher. It's

440
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: about availability. It's why you it's why you are unavailable.

441
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 1: Cooper did not get vaccinated last year and it played

442
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Speaker 1: a role in him missing three games. And now Marie

443
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: Cooper obviously a member of the Cleveland Browns. That quite frankly,

444
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,439
Speaker 1: Brown's got an incredible deal from the Cowboys in acquiring Cooper,

445
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 1: and you look at what's going on with the wide

446
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: receiver market around the rest of the NFL. It was

447
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,919
Speaker 1: almost feels like it was a massive steel for the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. And and everybody has been thrilled with the

449
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Speaker 1: Marii Cooper since he has been year and certainly excited

450
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 1: to see what he does with this football team as

451
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: its number one receiver. So that is the Kyler stuff.

452
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: Now you've got Aaron Rodgers showing up to Packers camp

453
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,719
Speaker 1: looking like Nick Cage from Conner. It's an absolutely stunning

454
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: piece of video. Chucks his backpack. It's shot in slow motion,

455
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: so you can see his hair blowing in the wind.

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Speaker 1: Cousin Sal said it best that you know the thing

457
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Speaker 1: that he's most concerned about watching this video, that the

458
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 1: Packers should be the most concerned about his how slow

459
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 1: he looks compared to recent years, which was I thought

460
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Speaker 1: a great little bit from cousin stal there. Warren Sharp

461
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: posted a good one, A good clip set to the

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Speaker 1: set to a famous quote from conn Air involving Nicholas Cage.

463
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Speaker 1: Please tell my daughter. I'm sorry, but I couldn't leave

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Speaker 1: a man behind like this whole thing as he's walking.

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Speaker 1: It's brilliantly put together. Yes, Ezechafee was like, dare I

466
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Speaker 1: say going back to back? I mean, this is the

467
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Speaker 1: content that I this is what I need in. Yes,

468
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: I need more. Aaron Rodgers, just do it. The waiting continues,

469
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: but the stream is back. Uh, there will not be more.

470
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 1: Darius Leonard Colt Star Daris Leonard saying that he will

471
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: now go by Shaquille Leonard, which is what his family

472
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: calls him. It's his middle name. So Shaquille Leonard is

473
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: one of the best linebackers in professional football. Bill Belichick

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Speaker 1: on Mac Jones Soft season, saying quote, I've seen dramatic improvement,

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Speaker 1: all right, I would hope. So. I didn't think he

476
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: was that great last year, but certainly he took it.

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Speaker 1: He took it to us. We'll see how that goes

478
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 1: this year. They took it to us. Yeah, we will

479
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: see how that goes this year. Um from Cincinnati. No,

480
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: Jesse Bates, the safety refused to sign his franchise Tator.

481
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: He will hold out. He will hold out and did

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Speaker 1: not report to camp today. And we know how a

483
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: lot of people in that organization feel about his importance.

484
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow saying that he is as important as anybody

485
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: to their success and wants Bates out there. Um And

486
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,479
Speaker 1: so we have a little bit of an impass right now.

487
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: They're saying they have no doubt that he will be

488
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Speaker 1: ready to go when it is time. Now, the big

489
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: story Mike Brown talking about as well, UH is saying

490
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Speaker 1: that you know he wants Joe Burrow to emulate Patrick

491
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Speaker 1: Mahomes when it comes to his expectations and the salary cap.

492
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Speaker 1: And remember, the Browns do not have the wealth to

493
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: match the clause right now where the guaranteed money must

494
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: be put in escrow. So here's what Mike Brown said.

495
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Speaker 1: I sort of like how Mahomes said. He doesn't care

496
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Speaker 1: about what those guys are getting. He's set for life

497
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: with what he's got. And why isn't that a good

498
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: way to look at it? I'm thinking, well, as Mike

499
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: Florio notes, a great way to look at it for

500
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Speaker 1: the people writing their checks. It makes it a lot

501
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: easier when it comes holding a great team together. Great

502
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: players don't insist on full unfair market value. Now some

503
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: people will do that, but it's funny Mike Brown already

504
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: laying the groundwork for what could be a very difficult

505
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Speaker 1: extension to reach with Joe Burrow, and he went on

506
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: the same part of the reason why we're doing things

507
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: you see us doing. We're trying to prepare to find

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Speaker 1: a way to keep Joe here, to keep Jamar here,

509
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Speaker 1: keep Tee Higgins here, and keep Tyler Boyd here. It's

510
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: going to be a real challenge for us, and and

511
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Speaker 1: part of it will be dependent upon if Joe Burrow

512
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Speaker 1: enables them to do that, and it will. Does Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow think that's what he should do? That? We will

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00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: find out in the coming years. Maybe two of those

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Speaker 1: in Cincinnati knowing how that organization are yes, yes, And

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00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 1: I think Tyler Boyd would be the first one that

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Speaker 1: you would divest and try to find a slot receiver

518
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Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow enhances and elevates, like maybe the great

519
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Speaker 1: Danny Amondola who announced his retirement from the NFL today.

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Speaker 1: Amndola as well as buster screen former Cleveland Brown announcing

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Speaker 1: their retirements and A Mendola A great career that began

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Speaker 1: back in the year two thousand and nine, which is incredible.

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Speaker 1: Two times super Bowl champion, uh he appeared with. Started

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Speaker 1: his career with the Rams, which I forgot about eighty

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Speaker 1: five catches back in two thousand ten for six d

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Speaker 1: eighty nine yards UM. He had s ST three for

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Speaker 1: six sixty six in two thousand and twelve. Then he

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Speaker 1: goes to the Patriots. He wins two Super Bowls with

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Speaker 1: the Patriots before going to Miami Detroit and finishing his

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Speaker 1: career in Houston. So in two thousand eight and oh

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Speaker 1: eight oh nine, it listens to him on Wikipedia because

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00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: Wikipedia is never wrong. Yea, there's a there's a little

533
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Speaker 1: uh little asterisk astric offseason and or practice squad member

534
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: only that's how he came in undrafted two thousand and eight.

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Speaker 1: Now he's remember the New England Patriots all two thousand

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Speaker 1: tens team, which is wild because and he never never

537
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: had seven hundred yards receiving in a season in his career.

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00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 1: He never had five touchdowns in a season in his

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Speaker 1: career UM. In fact, his years with Patriots were twenty

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Speaker 1: seven catches for two d yards and a touchdown, sixty

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Speaker 1: five for sixty eight and three, twenty three for two

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Speaker 1: forty three and four sixty one for six, fifty nine

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Speaker 1: and two. UM say to look at his postseason because

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that's when you're in with the Patriots, that's

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Speaker 1: one of the things that matters as well. And you

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Speaker 1: go to this postseason with the Patriots. UH ten and

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Speaker 1: three in the postseason. So here it is. The guy

548
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: was just better when it mattered the most in the

549
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: postseason fifty seven catches, seven nine yards and six touchdowns

550
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: in only thirteen games. So he was exponentially better in

551
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs and he was in the regular seasons. UH

552
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: had some big He had five for forty eight and

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Speaker 1: a touchdown in the win the Super Bowl win over Seattle.

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Speaker 1: He had eight for seventy eight and a touchdown in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl win over Atlanta, and while they did

556
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: lose UH to Philly in that game, he had eight

557
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: catches for a hundred and fifty two yards there. He

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00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: also had seven for eighty four and two touchdowns in

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00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: the a f C Championship win over Jacksonville that year,

560
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Speaker 1: so quite prolific. In the playoffs four, Danny Mundola from

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Speaker 1: Mark Boulder and Sam Bradford in St. Louis, the great

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00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Matt Stafford, like guys caught some passes from

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Speaker 1: some pretty good quarterbacks. Yeah, Nemo, certainly did Stafford obviously

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Speaker 1: in Detroit. Brady, you're right, some good quarterbacks. Who did

565
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: you did you say who was throwing on the ball

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Speaker 1: with the rams, Mark Boulger. That's what it looked like

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Speaker 1: on that on that highlight. Looked like little Mark Boulger

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00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: action there alright. Momo was his quarterback in oh eight

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Speaker 1: when he came in. So we wish him well, uh

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Speaker 1: in his next grad I guess he's gonna be pursuing

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Speaker 1: a TV And also we wish Buster Screen well, who

572
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: had a very nice career that began with the Cleveland Browns.

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00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 1: I can remember he just got unfairly picked on. In

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Speaker 1: two we were in New England. We're up big, like

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00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: we're having this great year. Chadzynski is a coach. Is

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Speaker 1: my first year producing the radio network. And then Tom

577
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: Brady just went Buster Screen and he was getting flagged

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00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: for everything and it just kept. It was just an

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Speaker 1: avalanche and a lot of it. There was a lot

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00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: of calls that shouldn't have happened. There were some that

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00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: did that should have happened, and you just were like,

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00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: is this guy at a crossroads? I mean, Tom Brady

583
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: almost broke Buster Screen that day, and Screen came back

584
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: and played with a vengeance and got paid. And he

585
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: was always a good teammate. He was always great in

586
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 1: the locker room downstairs. He was money Mitch before there

587
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: was a money Mitch. Buster Screen began with the Browns

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00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eleven, was a fifth round pick.

589
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: Played with the Browns through the fourteen season when he

590
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 1: was became a slot corner and that's how he really

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00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: extended his time in the league and became a good one.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, he was picked on very early on in

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Speaker 1: his career. But when you stay in the league from

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Speaker 1: eleven to twenty one, when you play four years with

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Speaker 1: the Browns, four years with the Jets, two in Chicago,

596
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: and then one with San Francisco and Tennessee his final

597
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: season reuniting with El Shanahan, who was on that two

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00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: thousand fourteen staff. Here, you know you've had a very

599
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: very solid career. Ten career interceptions for Buster Screen, eight passes, defense.

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00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 1: Guy was a darn good player and had a great career,

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00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: and it was cool to see how that evolved after

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00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: his time with the Cleveland Browns. All right, when we

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00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,720
Speaker 1: come back, we're gonna take a look at the biggest

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00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: question at each position group on the offense that's coming

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Speaker 1: eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, Cleveland Browns Dailer on ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Jason Gibbs. Here the calm before the storm two way,

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00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: it's true duality of truth in that one training camp

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Speaker 1: officially starts to tomorrow. Here the veterans have reported to

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Speaker 1: the Cross Country Mortgage Campus training camp against tomorrow. And

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00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: then the other calm is we're waiting for the news

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Speaker 1: on to Shaun Watson. I keep scrolling hoping to will

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Speaker 1: it to happen. It is not. It is not happening.

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Speaker 1: So as of now anyway, what is happening though, GiB

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Speaker 1: A and I are gonna go through each position group

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Speaker 1: on offense and give our biggest questions for the season

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Speaker 1: or the biggest question, something that we want to see

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Speaker 1: in training camp. Maybe that's unanswered, maybe it's an opportunity

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Speaker 1: for a player who knows. We'll see what it is.

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Speaker 1: But GiB A, let's get this going. We'll start with

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position. What is your biggest question for the

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00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: quarterback position group? You know, it's take that out of

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00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: it hanging out there, But what could John what? What

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00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: can Josh Rosen be? Yeah, because I me personally, I

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Speaker 1: think you could be more than a practice arm more

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Speaker 1: than just a training camp arm. Well, and that means

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Speaker 1: that we're talking about, you know, Josh Rosen pushing Josh Dobbs.

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Speaker 1: The battle of the Josh is to be the third

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00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: string quarterback on this team. Um, yeah, that is certainly.

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Speaker 1: That's That's the one question I think for this roster

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Speaker 1: as we go forward. The other question is, you know,

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Speaker 1: what can Jack Kobe Preset be for this football team?

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Speaker 1: What can he be? When he was a starter in

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Speaker 1: Indie over two seasons, three thirty one touchdowns, thirteen interceptions,

638
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Speaker 1: yards rushing another eleven touchdowns on the ground, thirty one

639
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: touchdowns thirteen interceptions. I feel like if the Browns have

640
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback who gives them a better than two to

641
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: one touchdown to interception ratio, they are going to be

642
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: a winning football team. Now, he's fourteen and twenty three

643
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: and his career as a starter, but this is the

644
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: best team that he's been on, clearly. So if he

645
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Speaker 1: can complete, you know, sixty plus percent of his passes

646
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: and give you a two to one touchdown interception ratio,

647
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: is that good enough to hold down the fort I

648
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 1: believe that it is. But we're gonna need to see

649
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: positive signs from him in this training camp. And so

650
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: that's that. I got confidence in Jacoby brist So do I.

651
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm good And I'm not saying that you don't. I

652
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: just I think the top two QB spots I'm ok. Yeah,

653
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 1: that's not a competition, and I'm okay with actually, because

654
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: Jacoby PC doesn't have to be the man he's got

655
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: He's got talent around him. That's right. He'll have to

656
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: make some throws, but you don't have to be the

657
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: man if he's This is a guy who was a

658
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: great leader. He has respected he was Indianapolis Colts Walter

659
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: Payton Man of the Year in he knows what he

660
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: knows his strengths, he knows his limitations. He plays within himself.

661
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: So he's a guy that I don't know if you'd say,

662
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: all right, Jecoby Brisett, gonna drop back forty times, you're

663
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: gonna go win us a game. But that's this team

664
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: last year was built to win without a quarterback doing that,

665
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 1: and Jacoby percent for his career, takes better care of

666
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: the football than what we have had here. And quite frankly,

667
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: I think with Jacoby Priett last year, we probably make

668
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Do I think in the big picture of

669
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,439
Speaker 1: people all you're saying, I think last year he would

670
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: have done better. Now healthy Baker Mayfield, we've seen how

671
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Speaker 1: good he was at the end of that stretch there

672
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: in two thousand and twenty when the Browns went to

673
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I'm just talking about last year's team, what

674
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: it could have accomplished with quarterback play that was in

675
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: the middle of the pack in the league. I think

676
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: it would have done just fine. I think Jacoby Proctt

677
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: can give that to you. Uh in bursts. I think

678
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: if you had to go full season with him, you know,

679
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna find ways to scratch and klon

680
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: get this football team wins. But that right now, that's

681
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: the end. Not I know what Deshaun Watson is. I

682
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: know what Jacobe is. What is he in this offense?

683
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,479
Speaker 1: It's the best offensive line he's ever played behind. It'll

684
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 1: be the best running game he's ever played with. Could

685
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Speaker 1: he be even better here with this team? By the way,

686
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,959
Speaker 1: it's a good defense. So I want to watch Kobe.

687
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 1: I have full belief in him. Anybody can step out

688
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: there and stroke the trifecta like he does. You know

689
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: he's in a hashtag athlete. Then he's gonna come in,

690
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: as I said, well liked and respected already in this

691
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: locker room, knows his strengths, knows his limitations, and will

692
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: play within himself. And I think a quarterback who does

693
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: that for the Browns has an opportunity very very successful

694
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: for this football team. Just like case was case last

695
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: year was two and oh and his two starts because

696
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: he knew what he could do. He knew the offense,

697
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: he knew the system, he knew where the ball is

698
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: supposed to go, and he was able to deliver the

699
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 1: ball there. And I think that is what you would

700
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: get with Jacobe Brissette, plus a little more size, a

701
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: little more running ability, especially in short yarded situations. All right,

702
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: running back room. Biggest question you have about the running

703
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: back room, I think it's probably the same one you

704
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: have it and that is how many how many of

705
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 1: these guys make this football team? Who's on this roster? Uh?

706
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: Going into Labor Day weekend? So I think you could

707
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: almost put it in pen on a sleep barring an injury,

708
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: that Chubb, Hunt, Johnson, and Jerome Ford make this team.

709
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Speaker 1: So the question that I have about this room is

710
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Speaker 1: Number one, is there a trade that potentially comes out

711
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: of this room? Does this room do those four guys

712
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: If those four are on the roster? I think those

713
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: four are on the roster. If not, that potentially changes

714
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Speaker 1: the count. The fact is Nick Chubb is the best

715
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: running back in football in my opinion. He's certainly in

716
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Speaker 1: the discussion. People could debate the merits of a Jonathan

717
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: Taylor or Derrick Henry, but he's right there with all

718
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: of those people despite never getting that type of a workload.

719
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Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt, you know, has led this league in rushing

720
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Speaker 1: last year was on a pace you know, in the

721
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: first six games, he had five hundred total touchdowns and

722
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 1: five touchdowns. He was on a pace last year for

723
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: twelve total yards and eleven touchdowns. He is the best

724
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: number two running back in the NFL. De Ernest Johnson

725
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: is the best number three running back in the NFL.

726
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: Last year, when he was asked to be a starter

727
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 1: in two games, all he did was produced two five

728
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: yards rushing on six yards to carry one touchdown and

729
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: added nine catches for freight yards so three yards touch

730
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Speaker 1: On was a FedEx Ground Player of the Week. He

731
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: was the highest graded had the highest running grade of

732
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Speaker 1: any running back in the NFL for the season at

733
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Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus. And then there's Jerome Ford, who was

734
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Speaker 1: the fifth round pick this year, so number one, is

735
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: there a trade possibility with maybe d Earnest. I don't

736
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: know where he could go and somebody says, yeah, this

737
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: guy can be the guy for us, or do you

738
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: go in there with the greatest insurance and and the best,

739
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 1: honest goodness, the best top the bottom position group of

740
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: any position group in the NFL, because that's what the

741
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: Browns have there. And then the other kind of like

742
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: little question is, because we're talking running backs, do they

743
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: keep a traditional fullback or Johnny stand has been working

744
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 1: with the tight ends. Is at a tight end who

745
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: occasionally can play fullback? And then is the metric Felton

746
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: a running back or is he a receiver to try

747
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: to make this football team, because I think it'd be

748
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: very difficult in the running back room right now with

749
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: the way that it's structured. So that could change obviously

750
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 1: if there is a move, But that's my that's the

751
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: biggest Those are the questions for me in that running

752
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: back I don't think you're gonna hide Jerome Ford on

753
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: the practice ques, not a chance, and they've already been

754
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 1: very impressed with him. Alright, wide receiver room, what's the

755
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: biggest question to you? Boy? There there's a few here,

756
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: but I think it has to come down to the

757
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: impact that Anthony Schwartz can make on this room. Can

758
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: he stay healthy? Can he be the the deep threat

759
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: this football team needs to open up everything underneath? You know,

760
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: how is the biggest progression you make is your one

761
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: to year two? So where is what does that look like?

762
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: Can it happen? Yeah? That is that's you know, that's

763
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: it for me to piggyback off you. It's it's Anthony Schwartz, right,

764
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: does he become the vertical threat? Or or must you

765
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: go and inquire about a Will Fuller or a Deshan

766
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: Jackson or a t Y Hilton. Oh, the great Alison

767
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: walking by right there. I love it. Love to see

768
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: a lot of joy in this building right now, by

769
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: the way. Earlier I was at her desk. Do you

770
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: know what she had on her desk? A key line

771
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: pie kit cat? Where did that come from? Brad Melland Well,

772
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: I tried it the next levels next do you want

773
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: to go get one of those? I tried it. It

774
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: was what is that man doing? The guys, He's not

775
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: helping us at all, He's the he's the nothing. Well,

776
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that. To me, the fact that he

777
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: didn't give it to us was a sign of love.

778
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: But I guess it's a different way to look at things.

779
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 1: It doesn't. It was not it would just you'd rather

780
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 1: have some key line pie. It was not great. I

781
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: like a good key line pie as well. Um, So

782
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: Schwartz is a big question. Mark David Bell now with

783
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: his foot injury on the on the populist and do

784
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: we get him back? That's a question heading into camp

785
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: and then you know who makes this team as the

786
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 1: next receiver. You know, Jackiem Grant's gonna make this team

787
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: because of his return, Pross, Amari Donovan, People's Jones, Bell

788
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: and Schwartz. If you need to bring in a veteran,

789
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,959
Speaker 1: cause Schwartz is already is that person that's the last

790
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: spot right there? Or are you know? You've got JaMarcus Bradley,

791
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: You've got Michael Woods the second this year, sixth round

792
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: pick this year, You've got it. Does Felton make it

793
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: as a as a receiver? And does he get more

794
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 1: slot reps? Now? Given that you see you know Bell

795
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: on the pup list, how do they use your team

796
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: Grant in this offense? Got some really creative and really

797
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: smart people calling plays. Yeah, and and Jackiem Grant has

798
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: got over five yards receiving in a couple of touchdowns

799
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: just as a receiver the last two years. JaMarcus Bradley

800
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: has been with the team for a couple of seasons.

801
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: Javon Wims is a four year veteran and stand six

802
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: four Isaiah Weston, who's a lot of people are excited

803
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: to see him. Can he shock the world and just

804
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: be the burner He's six flies and average twenty four

805
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: yards a catch last year at Northern. I So, Mike

806
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: Harle Jr. I know the chadow Shade likes what he's

807
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: seen from him already the all time leading receiver in

808
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: the history of the U. Can he be somebody that

809
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: makes an impact? But really, for me, the wide receiver

810
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: room all comes down to. It all comes down to

811
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Schwartz. Is he ready to take a huge, huge

812
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: step forward? That's the question. Yeah, I don't know. I'm

813
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: excited to find out. Yeah, that's you know. I think

814
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: we're also expecting big things from DPJ, you know, of course,

815
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: but that I have no doubt about like that. I'm

816
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm calm, I'm supremely confident. Donovan people's jums. All right,

817
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 1: let's go to the tight end room. Now, give a

818
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 1: biggest question for the tight end room. I mean, can

819
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: can the chief live up to the hype he deservedly

820
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:03,320
Speaker 1: got the contract? Now, I mean, this is not a

821
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Speaker 1: three tight end set anymore. With Deshaun Watson in the

822
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: full you know, he's he's going to be counted on

823
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: a lot. It's a very young wide receiver room. He's

824
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: he's got to be the man when it's time to

825
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: be the man, and I believe, I believe that he

826
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: will live up to that contract. I think that he

827
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: is certainly ready. I know the Browns are ready to

828
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: see that go forward. My question is, you know Chiefs

829
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Speaker 1: number one, Harrison Bryan's number two? Who's number three? Does

830
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: Millard Forrestall become the third tight end? The former undrafted

831
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: free agent out of Alabama. He's had a nice spring

832
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: and I realized it's not as important a position as

833
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: it would have been perhaps last year. But I think

834
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Speaker 1: if if Jacoby is starting for a while, we'll see

835
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: more of the three tight end stuff. Uh, then we

836
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: will with Deshaun Watson. So or do you need to

837
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 1: go out and get a veteran to compliment the chief

838
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: and Harrison Bryant? Does Johnny Stanton make this team? Does

839
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: Marcos Santos Silva, the former college hoop start he was

840
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: pursuing a football career. Does he make such an impression

841
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: with his athleticism that he makes this team? You know,

842
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: I'm fun to watch that guy. I think that's gonna

843
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 1: be That's gonna be fun to see. So that's those

844
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: are my questions there all right. Biggest question for you

845
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, Gibbe, I guess it's at the

846
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: tackle position. And and how do you know if Jack Conklin?

847
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 1: Is Jack Conklin ready to go? Um? Is Jed Wills

848
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: taken that next step in his development? And I guess

849
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: you could say the same thing, um regarding James Hudson,

850
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: you know, or or is Chris Hubbard healthy? The tackle

851
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: to position to me is probably the biggest, maybe the

852
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: biggest position of question going into this on the offensive

853
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: side of the football right this because just because of

854
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: the injuries, right, and the injuries and the you new

855
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: you right, you know quick questions. Can Jed Wills bounce

856
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: back after being injured for much of last season? Will

857
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: Jack Conklin be ready to go? That's a big one

858
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: right now. We've got great depth. How does that shake out?

859
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,439
Speaker 1: You've got Chris Hubbard, you got Hudson, he got posted done,

860
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: Blake Cants, you know what does that mean for Dawson

861
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: Deaton who was the seventh round pick this year for

862
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: Drew Forbes, the sixth round pick back at nineteen for

863
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: yelled the Frohole, the former fourth round pick in two

864
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen was on our roster last year. You know,

865
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: and then Alex Taylor, how does he go forward? But

866
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 1: the biggest one you're dealing with is all right, as

867
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: Jack Conklin ready to go, and as Jed Wills recapture

868
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: the form that he showed in his rookie year after

869
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: battling through injuries in his second to become that you know,

870
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: bookend stalwart left tackle that the Browns drafted him to

871
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: be early in the first round two seasons ago. So

872
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: there we go. So let's look at the offensive side alright,

873
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: one hour down. See, we got through it, even though

874
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: we're playing the waiting game. That's what we do, big

875
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: bees here when we come back, we'll take a look

876
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: at like Sandos annual quarterback tears, a training camposition, preview

877
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 1: of the special teams unit, and then the biggest questions

878
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: at each defensive position group. It's all coming your way.

879
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: An our number two of Cleton Brown's Daily here on

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Speaker 1: eight fifty ESPN, Cleveland, Cleveland Brown's Daily on a fifty

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Speaker 1: e sp N, Cleveland. Welcome back to Cleveland Brown's Daily,

882
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: our number two here from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

883
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: in Barria. And now we told you we're going to

884
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,359
Speaker 1: go into the quarterback tiers and there's a lot of

885
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: interest stuff here from Mike Sando does this every year

886
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: at the Athletic and um, you get some I think

887
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: some interesting comments as well about the various quarterbacks. You

888
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: get a lot. There's there's no doubt. And so in

889
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: two so fifty NFL coaches and executives have shaken up

890
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: the elite ranks for two the ninth incarnation of his

891
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: annual survey. UM Tier one, a Tier one quarterback is

892
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: basically the guy that can do it all right. That's

893
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 1: the guy that can win you the games when you

894
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 1: need him to win of the games. He can pass

895
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: when the other team knows you're gonna pass. He is

896
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: the franchise. He is the man and in fact, the

897
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,439
Speaker 1: exact word he has is a quarterback cookie carries team

898
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: every week. The team wins because of him. He expertly

899
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 1: handles pure passing situations, no real holes in his game.

900
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: Number one in Tier one Aaron Rodgers, who has been

901
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: in Tier one since every year. Basically, uh, this is

902
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 1: the eighth time in nine years the quarterback tiers balloting

903
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: and that he's finished no worse than tied for the

904
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: top spot. He is the standard Tier one for quarterback play.

905
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: Um A defensive corners said, I can't wait to rate

906
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 1: him as a two. That will be the favorite day

907
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: of my career. So he's number one, He's a tier

908
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: one guy. Mahomes a tier one guy as well as

909
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 1: single contrarian voter prevented Mahomes from timing Rodgers at the top.

910
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: That voter, veteran defensive play color thinks, there were times

911
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: last season when my Homes failed to read defense is

912
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 1: the way top tier quarterbacks do. And there was some

913
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,919
Speaker 1: knock on that teams played a lot of cover two

914
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 1: and that he wasn't able to deliver the way you

915
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 1: wanted Tom Brady coming in at number three. Uh, that

916
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: he is, He's Tom Brady. I mean what do you want? Uh?

917
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks coach said, he's a one and he can carry

918
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: that offense. He is that offense. He has an all

919
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: star team around, but looking at the team loses confidence.

920
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: Now they have twelve back there and playing. You still

921
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: have to give the dude to one. A defensive coordinator

922
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: says Josh Allen surge in the top tier after narrowly

923
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 1: missing it last year, and how could he not nine

924
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: touchdown passes without an interception? In the playoffs last year

925
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: as a personnel directed set. Personnel director said, he's proven

926
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: he can handle big moments. Um. He gives guys opportunities

927
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:12,759
Speaker 1: to make plays. Nine times out of tend they make it.

928
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: You can see the maturity used to make really egregious throws.

929
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: He creeps and every now and again. But he's a

930
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: big time passer. Um. Look at his voting average in

931
00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: nineteen he was like at a three point six nine. Yeah,

932
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: because he was his Ricky Ere. He was not good,

933
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: but he has progressed. He was a guy that was

934
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: a real project. It's remarkables and he's worked hard. And

935
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: he had the same offense, the same coach, the same

936
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and play caller the for the first four

937
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: years of his career, and I think that continuity certainly

938
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: helped him. Now the d's got a change there, but

939
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: with the offense. Carter Brian Dable now the head coach

940
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: of the New York Giants, So we'll see if that

941
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: impacts him, if at all, But at this point he

942
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: feels very very well established. He is a definite one

943
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: justin Herbert moves up to being a one. He is

944
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: the fifth quarterback in that one and offensive coach that

945
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: I was so impressed with him live. He has a

946
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: chance to do something special, the best pure thrower of

947
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,760
Speaker 1: the three young guys. I didn't realize he was at athletic.

948
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: One of our studs was chased him down, he got

949
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: around him and was laughing at him the whole time.

950
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: Competitive spirit, athletic ability. I saw freaking stud in our game.

951
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 1: I mean he was a stud when we played him.

952
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: There's no doubt. Another voter said he's kind of like

953
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: a bigger version of Aaron Rodgers. When we played them.

954
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 1: I was like, dang, I didn't know this dude could

955
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 1: move that well or he was that accurate. Five six,

956
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: seven years down the road, I think, uh, he will

957
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: be the guys we're talking, one of the guys we

958
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:33,239
Speaker 1: talked about in the Big Three. I just I think

959
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: it's still high. I think I needed, like, I know

960
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,959
Speaker 1: what he's capable of, but a lot of anointing going

961
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: on there, and I don't know about the I think

962
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: he's good. I think, well, he's aggressive and he's got

963
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: now he's got the talent I think to back up

964
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: that aggressiveness. So we'll see. But I I was very

965
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:55,479
Speaker 1: impressed with justin Herbert. Joe Burrow also in Tier one,

966
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: making his debut there. A GM said that he is

967
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 1: a young Tom Brady. I think Herbert is shown he

968
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: can do it and doses Burrows a step ahead. I

969
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: think his mind is a lot quicker. He wins with

970
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: his brain, so he's smart and a lot of people

971
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: think he's like a bigger, better Drew Brees and if

972
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,879
Speaker 1: he has that career, look out. Uh, he is a

973
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 1: very very good player. Um the head coach who playing

974
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 1: place Burrow and Tier one, explained the Burros Pearl offensive

975
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: line as a contributing factor. West Coast offense. Quarterbacks are

976
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,720
Speaker 1: always looking for with the anticipation instincts, ball accuracy, throwing

977
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: guys open. You just don't see that at a very

978
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: young age coming out and I'm talking particularly from the

979
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: drop back phase. I'm a fan. I put a one

980
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: on him. One concern was, Uh, he predetermines a lot

981
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 1: of his quick game. They'll spread down, try to show

982
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: him the picture if you can change the look. I

983
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,240
Speaker 1: think the kid locks in on some of these guys.

984
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm just saying he predetermined something. Un till he grows

985
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:45,439
Speaker 1: out of that. He's a good two for me very good.

986
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 1: Tier two, by the way, is good. A Tier two

987
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: quarterback can carry his team sometimes not as consistently, can

988
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 1: handle pier passing situations and doses, or possesses other dimensions

989
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: that are special enough to elevate him above Tier three.

990
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: But as a holder two in his game. It starts

991
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 1: with Matt Stafford, who, by the way, just won the

992
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and got eighteen Tier one votes, up from

993
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 1: four last year. Um, all the talent in the world,

994
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: you get him in a good situation and he and

995
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 1: he wins. I mean, he won the Super Bowl. Russell

996
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: Wilson also went Tier two. He comes in an eighth,

997
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: and Deshaun Watson comes in at Tier two as well,

998
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: uh finishing ninth. So he got a lot of votes

999
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: in different areas because of the uncertainty around him, which

1000
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: we're all hoping to end there. But here's what a

1001
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator said. I know that he's that the situation

1002
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: is what it is. But he is a one. I mean,

1003
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: I'm just rating him as a football player. He is

1004
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: a one. He is legit. You can put the game

1005
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: on him. They were bad in Houston, but it was

1006
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: not because of him. And then somebody said at the

1007
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: boy at the at the end, it will be not

1008
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: be hard to put Watson back into Tier one if

1009
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: he does what the Dolphins in Cleveland and half of

1010
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 1: a dozen other teams thought he would do if they

1011
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 1: signed him Lamar Jackson and tier two at number ten.

1012
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,320
Speaker 1: And this is where there's some tough stuff in the

1013
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 1: here that I I I agree with some of it,

1014
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 1: and I don't agree with some of it. Number one,

1015
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: I agree with this. You cannot go into a game

1016
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: and not account for this guy. Like we're meeting with

1017
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,240
Speaker 1: people every offseason to find out how they would defend

1018
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: this type of offense. At the same time, I can

1019
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: see why you go anywhere from one to three with him.

1020
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: If he has to drop back and throw the ball,

1021
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: it's not the same. But if he's on rhythm, they're

1022
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 1: running the ball, they're running play action off it, you

1023
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: can't account for him. He's going to kill you. That

1024
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: is right. He is that good. Here's another defense. Court said,

1025
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 1: if he has to passhim win the game, they win.

1026
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: In the game. He's so unique as an athlete, is

1027
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: a really good football player. But I don't care if

1028
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: he wins the MVP twelve times. I don't ever think

1029
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: he'll be a one as a quarterback. He's a one

1030
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: as a football player, but not as a quarterback. So

1031
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: many games come down to the two minute and that

1032
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: is why they have a hard time advancing. Even when

1033
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: they are good on defense, playoffs are tight. You have

1034
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: to be able to throw the ball. He's just inconsistent

1035
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: throwing the ball. It's hit or miss, so and I

1036
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: think part of the reason. That's part of the reason why.

1037
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: And I don't agree with that statement the way that

1038
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 1: it is made, by the way um I think Lamar

1039
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 1: Jackson is very dangerous now. He's shown that he can't

1040
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: throw the ball in certain situations and other situations, he

1041
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: hasn't been as consistent as some other people and and

1042
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: people saw last year they came in Miami where they

1043
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: just blitzed them and that kind of change things for him.

1044
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: But I'm sure they will have an answer. But the

1045
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: fact his receivers don't want to play there, and that

1046
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: is something that the Ravens have to think about when

1047
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: they're considering do they give him a big, big contract,

1048
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: And of course they should because what are the alternatives.

1049
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: Another offensive coach said to me, it's a nonsense to

1050
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: say he's not tier one. He's one of the more

1051
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: special talents to ever play the game. In Baltimore is

1052
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: a contender because of him. I couldn't agree with that anymore.

1053
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: That is true. He is a special talent and he

1054
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: is the reason they are as good as they are.

1055
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: Number eleven, Dak Prescott in Tier two, Derek Carr in

1056
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: tier two as well. Well, we'll find out if he's not.

1057
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: If he's not tier one after this year with Darren Waller,

1058
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: Davante Adams and Hunter Renfro he's never going to be

1059
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: um Kyler Murray in tier two as well. At number thirteen,

1060
00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan almost into Tier four for the first time

1061
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: him in nine seasons in the balloting, he had been

1062
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: a one at times even a two, but he still

1063
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: lands in tier two. Um I still think he can play.

1064
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: An evaluator said, if you give him the run game

1065
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: and protect them, especially if you can protect him up

1066
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: the middle, he can throw it well enough and he's

1067
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: smart enough to keep the train going. With the Colts,

1068
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: I think he's got a great chance with the Falcons.

1069
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: He didn't have any help. Matt Ryan physically is less

1070
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: ability than the guy they got rid of and Carson Wentz.

1071
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: What they're hoping is he's a better leader and more

1072
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: and less a mistake prone. Reich wants someone who can

1073
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 1: control the offense. I think they're gonna work well together,

1074
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: and Matt's a good manager. He's gonna take care of

1075
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: the ball, go to the right spot. So I think

1076
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: it's got to be a better pairing. So four team

1077
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in Tier one or Tier two real quickly. Tier

1078
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: three legitimate starter needs a heavier run game and or

1079
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 1: defensive opponent to win. A lower volume drop back passing

1080
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: offense suits him best. I would say that's probably true

1081
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan at this point. Kirk Cousins heads up this

1082
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 1: tier and some people think he's very skilled. Not a

1083
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: natural leader, they say, but he's been playing consistently at

1084
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: a high level. He's a more consistent pastor than Matt Ryan.

1085
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: Kurt's not learning new teammates, so we'll see where he

1086
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: has out the st garoppolo uh into that Tier three.

1087
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill in Tier three makes sense, Mac Jones in

1088
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: Tier three, h Baker Mayfield at number nineteen in Tier

1089
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: three as well, Jalen Hurts and Carson Wentz in Tier three.

1090
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: Jared goffin Tier three, Trevor Lawrence in Tier three, Jamis

1091
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: Winston in Tier three. Tier four quarterback could be an

1092
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: unproven player, not enough information, or a veteran who ideally

1093
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: would not start all seventeen games. They've got Justin Fields

1094
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 1: to uh. I thought he was the most accurate quarterback

1095
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I heard Tyreek killsay that, Davis Mills,

1096
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Dan Dimes, Marcus Mariotta, Sam Donald,

1097
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: Mitch Trabinsky, Drew Lock. So the earliest Steelers quarterback appears

1098
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: is in Tier four with Mitch Drabinsky number thirty three.

1099
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 1: Tier five quarterback best suit as a backup. They've got

1100
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: Geno Smith. There is the one. So Kenny Pickett not

1101
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: ranked in this tier list, but you'd have to imagine

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01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: that he'd be down there as well. Um and so

1103
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: there there it is. But the Browns have a guy

1104
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,880
Speaker 1: that is a Tier one talent. Everybody acknowledges that, and

1105
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: that's why they made the move they did to be

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01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: in that tier. How is Carson Wentz and Jared Goff

1107
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: is behind him, Trevor Lawrence is behind him, and Jamis

1108
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: is behind him. I get Jamis was hurt, So maybe

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01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: you can make that r Jamis. I think is I'd

1110
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: much rather have Jamis people for whatever reason, Carson Wentz

1111
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: gets a lot of opportunities. I think because he played

1112
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: like an m v P that time. I mean, they

1113
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: couldn't wait to get rid of him, an indie they were,

1114
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: I couldn't wait to get rid of him. They were done,

1115
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: and they don't let the door hit you on the

1116
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: way out. And yet he's still fetched a decent a

1117
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: decent haul. He got I think a couple um and

1118
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, did they get a two for him?

1119
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: Which is wild? Uh. Some news out of Seattle, Ian

1120
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: Rappaport reporting Seattle Seahawks star running back Chris Carson retiring

1121
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: from the NFL due to a neck injury. Seattle will

1122
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: official releasing with a failed physical designation of the CBA

1123
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: that allows Carson received several million in injury protection benefits.

1124
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: Seattle does right by him. He won't make a retirement

1125
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: statement just in case his net dramatically improved. But this

1126
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: is where it stands in the Seahawks, as they did

1127
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: with Cliff Avril, Camp, Chancellor and others, make sure he

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01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: gets his money. Thus, the official designation, and then you

1129
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: know that scene's got Rashad Penny, they drafted running back.

1130
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: But you know there's I don't know what they're trying

1131
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: to do. I don't know that they're a team that

1132
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: would go trade for anything. Um, we'll see. I don't

1133
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 1: think that they'd be a team that would be interested

1134
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: in making a trade to try to get better. It

1135
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like they're trying to get better. And it

1136
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: said the Seahawks have been preparing for this case and

1137
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 1: that's why they drafted Kenneth Walker at number forty one overall,

1138
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:49,640
Speaker 1: and they've got Rashad Penny back who they signed as

1139
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: a free agent. So they're finding that way. And how

1140
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: about out a year neck of the woods? Uh In.

1141
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan says he, John Lynch and Jimmy g spoke

1142
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: this morning. Everyone is on the same page. We have

1143
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: moved on to Trey. Shanahan says they don't plan on

1144
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,920
Speaker 1: Garoppolo practicing with the team. Expects the physical to go

1145
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: well today as it did with Garoppolo's doctor. Hope is

1146
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: that a trade to a team Garoppolo wants to go

1147
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: to comes together a S A P. But who's trading

1148
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: for him when you know that they want to get

1149
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: rid of him. No one's going to give you what

1150
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: you want. I think they're gonna take what they want,

1151
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: and you know they're just I think they'll be happy

1152
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: to move on and give him an opportunity. Right by me,

1153
01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: I don't think the competition is necessarily what they are

1154
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 1: what they care about the most, So that to me,

1155
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 1: I think they just want to get I think they

1156
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: just want to get done with it so that all

1157
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: their focus can be on trade Lance. They moved on

1158
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 1: to Trey Lance, and I think they are just looking

1159
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: for somebody who's interested in Garoppolo. And I think for

1160
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,040
Speaker 1: Garoppolo right now, you know, I'm glad he's The Steelers

1161
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 1: took picket, so I don't see them being a team.

1162
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: I think he could make them very competitive. Um there

1163
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: are a lot of teams that he can make competitive.

1164
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: The question is do teams want to be competitive? And

1165
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: I think sometimes it's tough for those tier three guys

1166
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 1: because the league either wants you to be a Tier one,

1167
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: Tier two or a young guy who's got a chance

1168
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 1: to be Tier one or Tier two and that's it. Otherwise,

1169
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: you don't want to be good, so you have a

1170
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: chance to get those guys. So we'll see. We'll see

1171
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 1: ultimately how that plays out for Jimmy g But I'm

1172
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 1: a fan of his and and hope that it ends

1173
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: well for him. We'll see what teams though, are potentially

1174
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: interested in having his services. That and that will that

1175
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: will determine kind of where it ends up for for

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01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. All right, when we come back here, we're

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01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 1: gonna take a look at the special teams units of

1178
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. Something that has been, you know, in

1179
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: terms of coverage, elite under Mike free For that's not

1180
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: going to change, even though the guys change year in

1181
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: and year out. What we have not been a lead

1182
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: at is returning. That should change. We have not been

1183
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: elite in field goal kicking. That should change. We've been

1184
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: pretty good at punning and I think that will continue.

1185
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: Will break down that position group next year on Cleveland

1186
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: Brown's Alyen eight fifty ESP in Cleveland Cleveland Browns Daily

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01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: sp N Cleveland. All right, welcome back into Cleveland Browns Daily.

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01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,920
Speaker 1: Nathans Gura and Jason Gives with you, and right now

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01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a look at our special teams units

1190
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: heading into training camp, really only one job even up

1191
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: for grabs and the special teams. In terms of the

1192
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: core your kickers Kate York, your long snappers Charlie Hewlett.

1193
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,200
Speaker 1: Your returner is Jachem Grant. There is a battle though

1194
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: between Corey B. Horkes and Joe Charlton to be the punter.

1195
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 1: The coverage teams will be made up of the guys

1196
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 1: something that we are very familiar with and some new

1197
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: names and faces depending on who kind of fills out

1198
01:04:57,200 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: this roster. Your bottom tight ends, your bottom receivers, your

1199
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 1: bottom linebackers, your bottom safeties and corners and running backs.

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01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: Those guys are gonna play special teams for this team.

1201
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: And if Mike Preefer is known for anything, it is

1202
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: consistently great coverage units, so I expect that to continue.

1203
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 1: We'll start with our kicker, Cade York, the Brown's fourth

1204
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,560
Speaker 1: round pick out of l s U this year, was

1205
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 1: the first kicker taken in and one of the earliest

1206
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: kickers taken in a long long time. He's got a

1207
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: huge leg u and fifteen of nineteen from fifty plus

1208
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 1: in college, including a walk off fifty seven yarder in

1209
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: the fog to beat Florida, he won a national championship.

1210
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,560
Speaker 1: He knows about kicking in front of a hundred thousand people,

1211
01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: as he did in the SEC. He knows about big games.

1212
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: He knows about pressure. Mike Pref, especiallys coordinator, absolutely loves him.

1213
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 1: Said he shed a few tiers when the Browns made

1214
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: the trade to get York. He said, the sky is

1215
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:47,080
Speaker 1: the limit, the right guy for our stadium, for our city,

1216
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:48,800
Speaker 1: and for the division we play in. And if you

1217
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: want to see what makes ca Ne York special, be

1218
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: sure to check out our Brown's breakdown. It's me and

1219
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 1: Preef in the film room looking at Cad York, hidding

1220
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 1: kicks at l s U, but also hitting kicks at

1221
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: First Energy Stadium, and you will see that anywhere else.

1222
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 1: So I would highly recommend checking it out. Where you

1223
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: say something, no, it's it's all him. I mean, it's

1224
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:11,360
Speaker 1: it's him concerned. There's not another lad just to give

1225
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: him a breather, but it's all him here going forward. Yeah,

1226
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: he's the guy. We're all counting on you. You're the savior.

1227
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: He's the guy, and I think you can handle us.

1228
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: I think you can handle it. Charlie Hewlett is your

1229
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 1: long snapper. This is eighth straight season with the Browns,

1230
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: entering the final year of his contract. He's also a

1231
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 1: former captain for this team. Well liked and, as Mike

1232
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: Creepers says, one of the top five long snappers in

1233
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: the NFL. Just steady, reliable, and that's exactly what you

1234
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 1: want out of that spot. For your punting competition, You've

1235
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: got Joe Charlton, who's a big six five punter, can

1236
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,240
Speaker 1: boom the ball. In twenty two career games with Carolina

1237
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville a forty four point three yard average with

1238
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: twenty nine punts down inside the twenty. He was the

1239
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 1: NFC Special Teams Player of the Week in Week sixteen.

1240
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 1: Then he got hurt and was released and is trying

1241
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: to catch on here with the Browns. Then you've got

1242
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: Corey Bojorkez and Charleston. Charlton is a right footed punter.

1243
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: Bork As a left footed punter, and a four year

1244
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: veteran who spent one with the Packers after his first

1245
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: three years in Buffalo, averaging forty six and a half

1246
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 1: yards per punt. Last year, he's had the longest punt

1247
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL in each the last two seasons seventy

1248
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: two yards in two yards. Last year against the Bears.

1249
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,959
Speaker 1: He led the NFL with a fifty point eight punt

1250
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 1: average in twenty has a career average of forty five

1251
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 1: point four and ninety two punts down inside the twenties.

1252
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: So but Orc, as you would think is is probably

1253
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: the favorite on paper with his resume. But Charlton has

1254
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: had a good start to camp, and I think that's

1255
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 1: gonna be a legit battle to see ultimately who comes

1256
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,480
Speaker 1: out on top for the Browns and is their kicker

1257
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: this or punter this season. Kick returner, punt returner easy

1258
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 1: Jackie Grant Pro Bowl returner in one, second team All

1259
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: Pro returner in twenty He has a return touchdown in

1260
01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 1: four straight seasons, with six total return touchdowns in his career.

1261
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: The last Brown kick return touchdown was Josh Cribbs in

1262
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:08,040
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine against the Kansas City Chiefs in

1263
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,080
Speaker 1: a game that I didn't realize until I read Terry

1264
01:08:10,120 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 1: Pluto's article about Jim Donovan. The Jim almost didn't call

1265
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: that game. He was not feeling well that day. He

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Speaker 1: calls the game and Cribs goes for two kick returns

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Speaker 1: in that the Browns on eleven year drought there and

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Speaker 1: then for the punt returns. The last time the Browns

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Speaker 1: had a punt return touchdown it was Travis Benjamin week

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Speaker 1: to two thousand and fifteen against the Tennessee Titans, and

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Speaker 1: the game started by Johnny Manzel and one by the

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns nearly seven years ago. So that's a look

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Speaker 1: at the special teams there. Uh, it is obviously a

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Speaker 1: very very it's a good room. Now. If Kade York

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Speaker 1: is who the Browns believe that he is, you have

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Speaker 1: an elite returner, you have the potential to have an

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Speaker 1: elite kicker, and you've got two very good punters and

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Speaker 1: in an elite long star. My question for you is

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Speaker 1: who backs up your team grant so based on last year,

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Speaker 1: based on last year, and it's a good it's a

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Speaker 1: fair question because you know he's got to stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: But last year you're leading kick returner was Anthony Schwartz

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Speaker 1: fifteen for three twenty two with a long of thirty

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Speaker 1: five yards. He had a twenty one and a half

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Speaker 1: yard average. B Ernest Johnson six for a D and

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Speaker 1: thirty nine twenty three point two yards per turn. Felton

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Speaker 1: nine for one seventy two only nineteen point one yards

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Speaker 1: per return, and then on the punt side of it,

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Speaker 1: yet d p J twelve for ninety five eight yards

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Speaker 1: per return, felt in thirty two for two twenty seven

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Speaker 1: with a long return to twenty four yards seven point

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Speaker 1: one per return. So d p J probably and Schwartz

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01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 1: perhaps or de Ernest Johnson Darns did a great job

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Speaker 1: with it. And that's another way that he could contribute

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Speaker 1: to this team. All right, when we come back, questions

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Speaker 1: facing every defensive position group headed in to camp, what's

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Speaker 1: Hensley and Baltimore. Ravens outside linebacker David Ojabo, officially a

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Speaker 1: hold out, the second round pick yet to sign a contract,

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Speaker 1: did not report Tuesday. He's the only Ravens player not

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Speaker 1: to report good news. Hold out hold out all preseason. Great, Well,

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Speaker 1: it's an odd one because he's not ready to play

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Speaker 1: anytime soon. So what's the difference. I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: don't what are you holding out for? Well, that's what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. He's not playing this year. He suffered that

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Speaker 1: awful uh injury at his pro day, so this was

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01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 1: not a season that he was gonna play. If he did,

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01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be for much later on. But you certainly

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Speaker 1: want him. They're interesting that he will not be there today.

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Speaker 1: And listen, when you're drafted in the second round, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's it's basically slotted what you're gonna be, what you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get paid by, based off of the people in

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Speaker 1: front of you and behind you. Now, my guess is

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Speaker 1: that this is happening because he's saying, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: a top fifteen talent. I should have been a top

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Speaker 1: fifteen pick where it not for this injury, and thus

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Speaker 1: I want to be paid a choice. There's there's a

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Speaker 1: paid rookie pay scale. Well, look is I'm clearly it's

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Speaker 1: coming down to the guaranteed money is what it is.

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Speaker 1: That's what that's where the hold up is. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins signing veter and wide receiver Mohammed Sanu, Mohammed

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01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 1: Sanut down there, and look, the top receivers for that

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01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: team are Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddle, and Cedric Wilson. So

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Speaker 1: you're just talking about being a veteran backup, somebody who

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01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: knows and and Mohammed Sanu was with the Niners recently,

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01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:19,799
Speaker 1: so Mike McDaniel obviously knows him. He knows the offense,

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Speaker 1: and he can bring it in and can also help

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01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,960
Speaker 1: teach the offense the guys. Remember when Kyle was here,

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Speaker 1: he brought an Anthony Armstrong who didn't make our team,

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01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: but knew the offense and was able to demonstrate it

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Speaker 1: and help teach it to the rest of the guy.

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Speaker 1: So that could be the role that they're looking at

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Speaker 1: right there with Mohammed Sanu. All right, let's start on

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Speaker 1: the defensive position groups. Some questions for each room. Will

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Speaker 1: start in the edge rusher room. What are the questions

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Speaker 1: you got there, Gibbe at the edge yep, the defensive ends.

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Speaker 1: How many actually play on the defensive line? Who's moving inside?

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Speaker 1: It's I mean, you know what you have. You have Clowney,

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Speaker 1: You've got Myles Garrett, You've got two of the best

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Speaker 1: in the game, and I I think that Chase Winovich

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01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 1: is gonna find second life, a second life here. I

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01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: think he definitely can too. I'm a Chase one of

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Speaker 1: its fan, obviously. And then you have Alex Wright, who

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Speaker 1: you drafted, who who's moving Who's moving inside? Well, what

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01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: these other guys established themselves enough to allow that to happen.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious to see they're not gonna move inside to

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01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 1: play defensive tackle. What you're talking about is when we're

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Speaker 1: in passing situations, who's the third defensive end, which means

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01:13:33,160 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 1: one place inside? I think we could see all four

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Speaker 1: of them on the field together, and I'm curious to

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Speaker 1: see that because of right size. If you put right

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Speaker 1: and Clowney, say inside or right in Miles inside, and

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Speaker 1: then Clowney and Chase one of it on the outside,

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Speaker 1: what does that look like? My other question is, you know,

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Speaker 1: do you end up keeping five defensive ends. Is Tach

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Speaker 1: McKinley still an option for this team. There's reportedly mutual

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Speaker 1: interests there, and if he comes back, how does that

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Speaker 1: change the dynamics in that room? Because you've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys competing and guys who have played. Stephen

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01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:08,920
Speaker 1: Weatherly has been in seventy three career games. He has

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Speaker 1: eight and a half career sacks. He was in Minnesota,

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Speaker 1: so he knows a lot of this guy's on this staff.

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Speaker 1: Isaac Rochelle sixty three career games, five year veteran, nine

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Speaker 1: career starts, nine and a half sacks, so he has

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Speaker 1: been productive in this league. Then you drafted Isaiah Thomas

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Speaker 1: in the seventh round out of Oklahoma, who led the

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Speaker 1: Sooners and sacks in both to right, But where does

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Speaker 1: there where's their room? That's the thing. You've got veterans,

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Speaker 1: You've got guys who have played in the league. You've

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Speaker 1: got a couple of rookies. You've got Tech McKinley still

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Speaker 1: looming out there. And then you have Curtis Weaver, who's

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Speaker 1: been kind of in the mix here for a couple

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Speaker 1: of years. Made his debut last year, but you know,

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Speaker 1: is he the odd man out? And really how many

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Speaker 1: guys end up getting kept and how many guys get

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Speaker 1: kept in the program, Like do they try to get

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Speaker 1: in Isaiah Thomas to the practice squad? That's there's a

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Speaker 1: lot to sort out there. I'm curious right now. Initial

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Speaker 1: question who's the first guy in in the Cheetah package

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01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: of the NASCAR package, who's the first guy in is

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01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: the third defensive end? Do we ever see all four

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Speaker 1: defensive ends out there playing together in obvious passing situations.

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Speaker 1: That's something I would be curious about, something I do

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01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,920
Speaker 1: hope we see. Because right can rush from the inside.

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Speaker 1: So you've got three guys who can. I don't think

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Speaker 1: Chase would rush from the inside very often, but you

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01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 1: have three guys who can rush from the inside for

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01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,600
Speaker 1: sure in that defensive end room right now, in Miles,

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Speaker 1: in Clowney and in Alex Right, all right, defensive tackle room.

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Speaker 1: Your biggest question, because I think there's a this is

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01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:35,680
Speaker 1: the one with the most questions. Who's going to be

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Speaker 1: your starter on opening day in Carolina? Who are your

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01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: two starters? Who are your starters that's the starting one?

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Speaker 1: Who makes this team? Who makes this football team? In

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Speaker 1: the defensive tackle room, if if let's just go under

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Speaker 1: the assumption that only four guys make it, You've got

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Speaker 1: you've got Jordan Elliott, Taven Bryan, You've got perry On Winfrey,

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Speaker 1: You've got last year's fourth rounder, Tommy Toga, and then

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Speaker 1: you have Sheldon day just just makes plays. He's been

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Speaker 1: in sixties seven career games, the most of anybody in

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Speaker 1: that defensive tackle room, more than anybody not named Taven

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Speaker 1: Bryan in the defensive tackle room combined. That's more than

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Speaker 1: Elliott combined with Winfrey and Togy I, you know. And

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Speaker 1: then you've got a couple of young guys. Can Glenn Logan,

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Speaker 1: the big guy out of l s U, who was

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Speaker 1: a four star player, started a ton for l s U,

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Speaker 1: won a national championship? There is there something to him?

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01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 1: Does he have some juice? And then really, you know,

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Speaker 1: the other question would be who is if if we're

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Speaker 1: seeing three defensive tack three defensive ends and one defensive

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Speaker 1: tackle in those pass rushing situations, who's that defensive tackle?

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01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: Is it Elliott? Is it Brian? Is it perry On Winfrey?

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Speaker 1: Who is it? Yeah? There's It's the one room that

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Speaker 1: I think you have the most questions. Like perry On Winfree,

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01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 1: the guy that we're all open, he can be alright.

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Speaker 1: How soon will it take to develop to get him

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Speaker 1: ready at the NFL level? Yeah? You know, Taven Brian

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01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: second chance, you know, didn't work out in Jacksonville? Can

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Speaker 1: it work out here? A former first round talent that

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Speaker 1: that the Browns. I think Jordan Elliot has got a

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Speaker 1: lot of talent. Definitely think yeah, Jordan elle does have

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Speaker 1: a lot of talent. I think he's there's some pressure

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Speaker 1: that he's got to live up to that talent. That's

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Speaker 1: the time is for him to do that. You know,

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Speaker 1: now is the time for Jordan Elliott to take that step.

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01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:27,720
Speaker 1: For Tavin Bryant a chance to resurrect his career after

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Speaker 1: being a former first round pick. You know, is Perion ready?

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Speaker 1: As you mentioned, all right, let's go into the linebacker

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Speaker 1: room now. Your biggest question for the Browns linebackers led

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Speaker 1: by linebacker coach and front of the show Jason Tarber,

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Speaker 1: I guess I would say, how many linebackers are you keeping?

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Speaker 1: Are you playing two? Are you playing three? I mean

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Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna be playing to the majority of

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Speaker 1: the time. You will play three at times, but you know,

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01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: like for example, on Taki, Taki is going to be

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01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: your sam linebacker when you're in your base situations, but

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01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: also was probably your number one special teams guy right now.

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Speaker 1: So you know, the question is do you keep five

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Speaker 1: linebackers or do you keep six? If you keep five.

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Speaker 1: Four of those five are are Locks, Walker, Phillips, j

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Speaker 1: Ok Tacky. Then the fifth becomes a battle. You know,

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01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 1: Tony Fields, who you drafted last year, Dakota Allen, who's

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Speaker 1: a three year veteran and has been a special team

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01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 1: standout in the league last year with the Jags. Uh

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01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 1: was certainly that Willie Harvey who's been with the brown

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01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 1: since two thousand nineteen on and off and played on

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01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: teams last year. And it's a very smart linebacker that

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01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:38,719
Speaker 1: they like. And Silas Kelly was our undrafted free agent

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01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 1: this year, so they'd kind of be competing for the

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01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 1: last spot. And if there are two spots, you know,

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01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 1: it feels like Fields and Dakota Allen would have the

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01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 1: leg up and then you gotta have Willie harveer or

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01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 1: or sired Less, you know, make a big move for me.

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Speaker 1: The big question is is who's your starting mike linebacker?

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01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,960
Speaker 1: Is that Anthony Walker Jr? Is that Jacob Phillips And

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01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 1: and not a question, but something I'm excited to do

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Speaker 1: is to see that just the development of j O

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Speaker 1: k in year two, I think he's going to be

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Speaker 1: in this group, stay healthy. I think that he's going

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Speaker 1: to become an absolute superstar. So I'm pumped to see that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of talent in that room, a lot

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Speaker 1: more talent than I think maybe people originally gave them

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Speaker 1: credit for a year ago, But you gotta see the

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Speaker 1: talent realized. Can everybody stay healthy and make plays and

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Speaker 1: be the playmakers and fly all over the field as

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Speaker 1: we envisioned them. I think he will. I mean you think,

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Speaker 1: but you just go through the accolades really quickly. As

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Speaker 1: the Brown's thirdest hid highest grade defender among the starters,

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Speaker 1: fifth highest grade rookie defender, sixth best linebacker overall period,

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01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: was a numerous all Rookie teams, tackles, pass breakups, force fumbles, sacks,

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01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 1: tackles for loss. He did it all. I think that

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Speaker 1: he has such a bright, right future. I'm excited. You

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01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 1: have the guy that's really the question mark is Jacob Phillips.

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Speaker 1: Every time we see him, he's really, really good. We

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01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 1: just haven't gotten to see him nearly as much as

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01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 1: I think anybody wants in this building. But if he's healthy,

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01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:18,160
Speaker 1: if he's healthy, is he the guy? Because Anthony Walker's

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01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 1: flat out solid hunter, tackles under nine tackles, a year.

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Speaker 1: The last five seasons four within the one with us

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01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,920
Speaker 1: great leader covered well last year played great, wanted to

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Speaker 1: come back, and he is back, so I like him

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Speaker 1: a lot. I certainly don't think anything will be handed,

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01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 1: but Phillips is a unique and very special athlete. So well,

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Speaker 1: we finally get a chance to see that. All right,

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Speaker 1: cornerback room. Biggest question, boy, if Denzel gets dinged up

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Speaker 1: or um, you know, Greedy gets dinged up and Newsom's

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01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 1: got to move back outside, Who's gonna play inside? Who's

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01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 1: playing in that slot? I think that the way they

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01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 1: would do it if I think the better way to

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01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,960
Speaker 1: ask a question is if Newsome gets hurt, who's playing

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Speaker 1: in the slot, Because I think that if if let's say,

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01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:11,760
Speaker 1: if one of Denzel or Greedy get hurt, I think

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01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:13,679
Speaker 1: that it would be Greg would be in the outside

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Speaker 1: still in two two cornerback formations, and then in nickel

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Speaker 1: he'd come inside, and it would be Greedy and A J.

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Speaker 1: Green or Greedy and M. J Emerson or Denzel and

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Speaker 1: A J. Green or Denzel and M. J Emerson both

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Speaker 1: were out, It probably would be Greg in the slot

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01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: and M. J Emerson a J. Green on the outside.

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01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:34,839
Speaker 1: The question I have is who plays slot if Greg

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01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 1: gets hurt? And my guess is we saw some of

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01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,160
Speaker 1: this in mini camps and ot is my guess is

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01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:44,679
Speaker 1: if everybody else is healthy, the first person to back

1509
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,559
Speaker 1: up Greg Newsome in the slot would actually be Denzel Ward.

1510
01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 1: I think Denzel would go inside, and you have Greedy

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01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: and a j or Greedy and Emerson on the outsides. Now,

1512
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:56,160
Speaker 1: the question is if Newsome, if that is the plan,

1513
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: and hopefully we'll get some clarity on that. If that

1514
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: ultimately is the plan, who goes inside if neither Newsome

1515
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 1: or Denzel are available? Who is that guy? Who is

1516
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:11,720
Speaker 1: that guy that plays inside in that situation? Is it

1517
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: one of you know, her Miller, Is it Sean Jolly,

1518
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 1: Reggie Robinson, Parnell Motley? And these are questions that we'll get,

1519
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 1: you know, to Jeff Howard, and we'll get some understanding

1520
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 1: of that as we get closer. But my understanding of

1521
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 1: it is now, your nickel one is Greg Newsome. Your

1522
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 1: nickel two is actually Denzel Ward, given the strength out

1523
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 1: of the outside. So if those guys are both not

1524
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 1: a villa, by the way, that's a situation and I

1525
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:37,640
Speaker 1: don't want to be thinking about or dealing with. But

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01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:40,680
Speaker 1: that's what it would be. I'm excited to see what

1527
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 1: m j Emerson can do as am I and and

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01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 1: does he you know, does he get more work in

1529
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 1: that dime roll? Is that something that ends up being

1530
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 1: his way to play is as a dime guy. He's

1531
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 1: not afraid to tackle, he's physical, and he's a big

1532
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 1: guy who can cover I think tight ends in this league.

1533
01:22:55,920 --> 01:23:01,360
Speaker 1: So does that does that come to fruition? Is that

1534
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:03,840
Speaker 1: m j Emerson's path? All right, let's go to the

1535
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: safety is real quickly here? Give a any questions in

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01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 1: this room, I mean maybe just a depth on the

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01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: back end. Who ends up making this team? I mean

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01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 1: you you pretty much know what you're getting. I think

1539
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 1: we're expecting Grant Delpit too burst onto the scene here,

1540
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 1: um in this his what second full year, yep, second

1541
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:35,200
Speaker 1: full year, third year in the league, but second full

1542
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:39,400
Speaker 1: st John Johnson j J three was walking in this morning.

1543
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 1: He's on our social media. You're six. It's a big

1544
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 1: year for him and he said, I'm in great shape,

1545
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 1: best shape in my life. I mean, you know what

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01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 1: you get with Ronnie uh Richard account? Can can you

1547
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 1: hold off the competition? On the back end. Yeah, I

1548
01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 1: think that's I think that's good. I think you know

1549
01:23:58,160 --> 01:24:01,120
Speaker 1: John with Grant's ascents, and John gets to play close

1550
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:02,719
Speaker 1: a line of scrimmage like he did with the Rams,

1551
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 1: and that's where he's the most effective. You got Ronnie

1552
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 1: back your top three, and Ronnie was great in He

1553
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 1: struggled last year. We know that, but I think he's

1554
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,000
Speaker 1: been humbled. I think he's ready to come back and

1555
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:17,600
Speaker 1: be a stud uh and a very good dime defender

1556
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 1: for this football team. Now you mentioned rich Account, he

1557
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 1: right now would be the fourth safety. He could get

1558
01:24:26,080 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 1: pushed the Anthony Bell is an undrafted free agent out

1559
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: of West Florida that they like. Jeff Howard likes him.

1560
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 1: He can run, He's always in his playbook, he knows

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01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: where to be, so could he push Rich account. Nate

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01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 1: Matters is a guy that spent nineteen in Minnesota, has

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01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,719
Speaker 1: been in three career games. They know him there, Jeff

1564
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 1: Howard knows him. Jeff Award was assistant dB coach when

1565
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:48,080
Speaker 1: he was an undrafted free agent out of U C.

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01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,160
Speaker 1: L A. So he was brought here obviously for a reason.

1567
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 1: And then Luther Kirk, the fourth and undrafted free agent

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01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 1: out of Illinois State who has spent time with Dallas,

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01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 1: Minnesota and Atlanta. That would be the other safety, But

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01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 1: right now it really feel was like it's the count's

1571
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 1: job there. He gets to start his preseasons uh in

1572
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 1: Jacksonville where he did last Remember you had the interception

1573
01:25:07,160 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 1: down there, almost should have had to almost had too

1574
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 1: in that game. So that's kind of the big question

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01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 1: for me who ends up ultimately being the fourth safety.

1576
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: How much of the dime do we see with three

1577
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,760
Speaker 1: safeties versus you know, does do we see more of

1578
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 1: m j Emerson in that dime role? Those are the

1579
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 1: things look at there. But boy, I feel good about

1580
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 1: the back end of this defense for the Cleveland Browns.

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01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, so much more to

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Speaker 1: come as we wrap things up here on this Tuesday edition,

1583
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 1: the final show before training camp begins, and thus we

1584
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 1: are full on off to the races. You're listening to

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01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: a fifty ESPN Cleveland Cleveland brown e S N. All right,

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01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 1: the waiting continues. We have not heard from Judge Sue

1587
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 1: Robinson while we are on the air today, so the

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01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 1: waiting continues. Hopefully it comes after we're off here. That's fine.

1589
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 1: With me. Just let's get this resolution onto Shawn Watson

1590
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:18,719
Speaker 1: sooner rather than later. The football people bustling about SAgs

1591
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 1: strolling by, because tomorrow it begins. Training camp at the

1592
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Speaker 1: Cross Country Mortgage Campus begins for your Cleveland Browns, and

1593
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 1: that means we're going hopefully until the middle of February, baby,

1594
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 1: but it starts. Season officially begins tomorrow. We will be

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01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 1: live from the practice field. Sure we believe for training

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01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:50,519
Speaker 1: camp practice number one here, So listen. This was a

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01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 1: football episode. You want to know all the questions every

1598
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 1: position group, what we're thinking going into training camp. Be

1599
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 1: sure to get it wherever you get your podcasts, stay tuned.

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Speaker 1: The next level is next, and forgive a I am

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Speaker 1: Nathan Sigura, thanking you for listening once again to Cleveland

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