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Speaker 1: through some Senior Bowl stuff. We really did, didn't we.
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Speaker 1: hours away. My mask's terrible, but I know we've got
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Speaker 1: lot of scouts are looking forward to this. I know
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Speaker 1: group being Dane Brugler from CBS Sports, David Hellman from
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Speaker 1: the Draft show. For all these weeks, it is upon us,
Speaker 1: and we wanted to take the opportunity to do a
Speaker 1: seven round mock draft, and the idea of the Draft Show,
Speaker 1: as always, it's it's for you. We wanted to educate
Speaker 1: the fans. We wanted you to be a part of it.
Speaker 1: You have with tweets and calls and questions, and we
Speaker 1: appreciate every bit of that. But we're gonna try and
Speaker 1: set up what we've always done here, a war room
Speaker 1: like setting, and and try and go through some scenarios
Speaker 1: that could either happen yes, no, But we want to
Speaker 1: make you think. We want to make you out there think, okay,
Speaker 1: well I go up to get a guy, Well I
Speaker 1: settle right there? Do I want to wait for a guy?
Speaker 1: We're just gonna try and do a bunch of things,
Speaker 1: and that's our idea today. We're gonna get through this
Speaker 1: mock draft and then at the end of it we
Speaker 1: have time, we're gonna take some calls at eight eight eight, eight,
Speaker 1: five five two two ninety seven not so much the
Speaker 1: questions I need. We just want to know about the draft.
Speaker 1: What you think, you know, as you're listening along to
Speaker 1: take notes, have your own ideas of what you want
Speaker 1: to do. So, with all that being said, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: turn this over to Dane Brugler, and Dane's gonna run
Speaker 1: this mock draft for us and Dave and myself and Dane,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have some discussions here and uh and just
Speaker 1: go through it. So Dane is the floor is yours?
Speaker 1: Thanks Brian, And you know, mock drafts, it's it's all
Speaker 1: about scenarios. It's all about examining how this draft could
Speaker 1: play out. And obviously picking twenty seven in the first round,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of things can happen. Let's first,
Speaker 1: before we get started, just take a few minutes quick,
Speaker 1: pow wow. What we're thinking in this draft? We want
Speaker 1: to come away with we want we know we want
Speaker 1: a running back. At some point, Adrian Peterson Vikings aren't
Speaker 1: playing ball right, so you know we want to come
Speaker 1: away with a running were still point We're still gonna
Speaker 1: make a call though, are we still thinking about even
Speaker 1: though that the Minnesota has come out and said that
Speaker 1: we're not gonna make a call. So that's that's yeah.
Speaker 1: Are we prepared though, in case Minnesota calls us? I
Speaker 1: think you always, you know, you have to be prepared
Speaker 1: for that. But you know, I likelihood not, very okay,
Speaker 1: very likely. Let's let's focus on the players on the draft. Okay,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna focus on that draft first. If so,
Speaker 1: if we're sitting in our war room Minnesota calls, we're
Speaker 1: gonna say, hey, we're just focused on our draft. We'll
Speaker 1: cross that bridge when we come if if it happens,
Speaker 1: you know, but I think, yeah, let's focus on the
Speaker 1: players we have on our board. Okay. You know our
Speaker 1: scots has done a lot of work. Well, we'll focus
Speaker 1: on that and take it from there. Okay. Um, we
Speaker 1: have to talk about corner. We know we want to
Speaker 1: come away with a corner at some point in this draft.
Speaker 1: True defensive line definitely a postackle or an end either one. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: uh quarterback is that a position worth addressing in this draft?
Speaker 1: You know, if it, if it happens where it matches up, great,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe that's something we do. But if it doesn't,
Speaker 1: I don't. I think we're okay with not coming away
Speaker 1: with a quarterback, if that's what happens. Yeah, I agree
Speaker 1: with that. I mean I think that I've I've talked
Speaker 1: about the petty a lot, and if we got to
Speaker 1: this point in the draft where Petty is a consideration,
Speaker 1: I will go up on the table. But I understand
Speaker 1: what we're saying there and the other the last thing
Speaker 1: before we get started trading up trading back. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, we're all worried about that twenty seventh pick
Speaker 1: in our first round options being wiped out, so our
Speaker 1: our phone lines are open. Uh. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: chance that we could get a nice deal at twenty
Speaker 1: seven to move back maybe in the second round some
Speaker 1: more picks, but that's not something we'll really know until
Speaker 1: twenty seven are close to it, So could be a
Speaker 1: little bit of a gamble there. So um, picking up
Speaker 1: twenty seven tough to feel great about it. So the
Speaker 1: position though we're thinking about we are we are we
Speaker 1: thinking about going up for one particular position? Or do
Speaker 1: you want to go up and get uh? I mean,
Speaker 1: is a cornerback going to be the spot? Is a
Speaker 1: running back? Are we just full into go? I think
Speaker 1: we're willing to go up, but I think we have
Speaker 1: to watch running back in corner? At least for me,
Speaker 1: I've I'm willing to go up, but really only for
Speaker 1: those two things. Yeah, which one more than one more
Speaker 1: than the other. I'm at top of my list. I'm
Speaker 1: willing to go up for Todd Gurley, Okay, but I
Speaker 1: would be willing to go up if you know, if
Speaker 1: a Kevin Johnson or maybe a Marcus Peters is there
Speaker 1: and it's not giving, if you're not giving away the house,
Speaker 1: I would do it. What's the sweet spot for Gurley?
Speaker 1: If he gets past sixteen? Is that one where we
Speaker 1: consider him? If he gets fast to Chargers at seventeen,
Speaker 1: I think you have to start thinking about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that if we're sitting there, in my mind,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of thinking that Miami is now a player
Speaker 1: at fourteen, I think that you have to find a
Speaker 1: way to get ahead of San Diego in reality. But
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. See, but we don't have
Speaker 1: to dedicate too much time to this. But I think
Speaker 1: if you're talking about getting in front of San Diego,
Speaker 1: then you're talking about spending a lot more than maybe
Speaker 1: I want to. But once, I mean, if he falls
Speaker 1: into into that eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one. You know
Speaker 1: you might be able to get away with giving a
Speaker 1: giving up a little bit low. Okay, all right, let's
Speaker 1: get this thing started. Um, no surprise or off the
Speaker 1: bat quarterbacks Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariotta one two, So no
Speaker 1: surprises there. Uh, moving on down the first round. There
Speaker 1: we go our first running backs off the board at fourteen,
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley to the Dolphins. So we don't even need
Speaker 1: to need to have that conversation. Todd Gurley unfortunately will
Speaker 1: not be a Dallas cowboy, and it's a bummer, but
Speaker 1: it is a guy that we all like, and it
Speaker 1: just uh, but that's that's incredibly realistic. That really well
Speaker 1: see that, And that's the and that's the thing about it.
Speaker 1: I think we knew in this draft that that was
Speaker 1: where the spot was gonna be for the for Gurley
Speaker 1: once the two thumbs up on the medical stuff came out. Miami,
Speaker 1: you know, needing a running back right there. I showed
Speaker 1: me the Instagram video yesterday of him sprinting on the treadmill. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I starting to think he might be ready for a
Speaker 1: week one. Yeah. I think if you if you talk
Speaker 1: about in Miami and you look at their team needs
Speaker 1: as well, wide receiver, corner, running back. We're all in
Speaker 1: the mix right there. So that's not a surprise. And
Speaker 1: with Gurley, it's almost like you know, at that point,
Speaker 1: how do you pass? Yeah, one of the best talents.
Speaker 1: So absolutely he's in that mid first range. Okay. Um,
Speaker 1: A few picks later, Randy Gregory off the board. So
Speaker 1: another player that might have Yeah, I think there's a
Speaker 1: there's a few Cowboys fans that are a little bummed,
Speaker 1: but I think most Cowboys fans get that a little happy.
Speaker 1: Take that choice out of my hands. Okay, don't even
Speaker 1: have to worry about it. Randy Gregory off the board
Speaker 1: of fifteen to the forty nine ers. Okay, So the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers take Gregory outboard. Okay. So we were
Speaker 1: worried about that as far as would that guy be
Speaker 1: a potential storry were we willing to Maybe we weren't
Speaker 1: thinking about trade nut for Randy was not one of
Speaker 1: those guys at all. Right, but if he's at twenty seven,
Speaker 1: then that's something it'd be tough to exactly. It's you
Speaker 1: talk about it all the time. It's like, I'm happy
Speaker 1: that I don't have to worry about it. Okay, don't
Speaker 1: even if Randy Gregory would have got into, say around
Speaker 1: twenty one around Cincinnati, would we have thought about that.
Speaker 1: I'm not going up for that guy. Not at all.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, not at all. So it does
Speaker 1: it sound like we were going up for talking about
Speaker 1: a guy who has the talent to be top ten
Speaker 1: and was widely considered top five when this started, and
Speaker 1: he's slipping to the end of the first round for
Speaker 1: reasons that have nothing to do with his ability. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm not true. I'm not giving up. So we're okay.
Speaker 1: We're okay with Gregory going off there. We thought that
Speaker 1: he potentially could have been a top ten guy, absolutely,
Speaker 1: but now he goes to he goes to at like
Speaker 1: you said, Sam fra Leisco at fifteen. So we're good
Speaker 1: with that. Okay, it's too bad, but we're not hearpro Okay, great, um,
Speaker 1: second back off the board seventeen to San Diego Melvin Gordon.
Speaker 1: So there's another possible trade off. If Melvin Gordon was
Speaker 1: in early twenties a player, we talk about maybe moving
Speaker 1: up for Detroit at twenty three. Uh, that could have
Speaker 1: been a possibility, but he's top twenty, he's gone. Dave
Speaker 1: told me though he would only have traded up for Gurley.
Speaker 1: I agree with him on that. I don't think if
Speaker 1: Gurly gets to twenty seven, I'm okay with that. Gordon, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm down to take Gordon at twenty seven. I don't
Speaker 1: want to give up picks to get him, though, that's
Speaker 1: just me. Okay, Well, we lost two backs, so but board, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, And I think it's not it's not a shocker.
Speaker 1: I think we expected that. So I think now our
Speaker 1: our focus in the first round has to shift the corner,
Speaker 1: which you yes, yeah, we're down to two backs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: unless you know you're comfortable with those second round backs.
Speaker 1: But I'm worried now about these corners. I am worried
Speaker 1: about that out of twenty seven. Uh okay, Kansas City's
Speaker 1: up at eighteen. This is where I think Kevin Johnson
Speaker 1: makes a ton of sense, where we could see him
Speaker 1: coming off the board. Um, but we don't want to.
Speaker 1: We don't have to give us second round pick to
Speaker 1: go and get him if we went up to eighteen.
Speaker 1: So that's not something I think we're ready to do.
Speaker 1: Um And never mind, they just took Cameron Irving, so
Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about that. Oh wow, they
Speaker 1: took Florida State off versal offensive lineman. So he goes
Speaker 1: eighteen to the Chiefs. So we were sweating that pick
Speaker 1: right there. We think Kevin Johnson, that's could be the
Speaker 1: first spot because probably Waynes is gonna be up at
Speaker 1: the top of that board. Maybe probably went Minnesota to eleven,
Speaker 1: maybe something. Honestly, Houston sixteen is a player or a
Speaker 1: team late I'm hearing Kevin Johnson is a strong possibility.
Speaker 1: So sixteen eighteen two, Ok, we're sweating Kevin Johnson. So
Speaker 1: I think that's uh, that's uh so, no, Kevin Johnson
Speaker 1: at eighteen. Does eighteen feel really high for Irving to you? Yes?
Speaker 1: So no, I think, uh some teams like him, I
Speaker 1: think better than we do. Uh. He kind of gives
Speaker 1: me that Travis Frederick feel that like you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of people are let me, hey, let me
Speaker 1: just give you a little inside about Kansas City there
Speaker 1: why the pick was made. They that's a need center
Speaker 1: is definitely a need for for the for the chief
Speaker 1: I mean, if you get your guy who cares were Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're there. Previous center Rodney Hudson, went to Oakland, right,
Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson, a guy they drafted out of Florida States.
Speaker 1: So they go back to that Florida state. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: the kids crush. They got a kid named Cush. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be the starter there. So they're gonna look for it.
Speaker 1: They're gonna look for some competition there. John Dorsey I
Speaker 1: worked with it in Green Bay. He likes those Florida
Speaker 1: State type kids. So not a bad call right there.
Speaker 1: On the versatility, a guy that played left tackle played center,
Speaker 1: so it gives them options wide receiver, center, and inside linebacker.
Speaker 1: For the Chiefs, the receiver would not be a shock
Speaker 1: of Irvan goes top twenty. Yeah, okay, absolutely, Um nineteen.
Speaker 1: The Browns they go for Shot Perriman wide receiver, need one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: next up is pick twenty. Now this is uh, this
Speaker 1: is where it gets interesting. This is UH Philadelphia. Kevin Johnson.
Speaker 1: We talked about Kevin Johnson Byron Jones. There's a few
Speaker 1: other corners that they're in the in the mix. Here
Speaker 1: do we try and move up? See if the Eagles
Speaker 1: are willing to do a deal, if we offer, say,
Speaker 1: if we offer twenty seven. Yeah, a third and say
Speaker 1: a fifth? Do you think that's worth it to go
Speaker 1: up to twenty and uh, you know, see if see
Speaker 1: if they might be able to do that. Well, the
Speaker 1: point differential on our charts looking at eight fifty for
Speaker 1: the Eagles six eighty for the Cowboys, So you're talking
Speaker 1: about giving up a third. So that's one thirty six.
Speaker 1: We got to make up this difference somehow and what
Speaker 1: else was there? And a fifth that would be twenty six?
Speaker 1: So points total right there? Is what it's that one
Speaker 1: sixty six that's in the range right there? All right?
Speaker 1: So this is what we're talking about here, and correct
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. So we're I mean, every cornerback
Speaker 1: is in play. You got your pick of the litter
Speaker 1: of the cornerbacks right now except for Trey Wayne's TYA.
Speaker 1: At this point, Trey Wayne is the only quarterback off
Speaker 1: the board. Wayne has never been a guy that we've
Speaker 1: talked about any We know that Philadelphia potentially is going
Speaker 1: to take a cornerback. That's that's the issue. And would
Speaker 1: they would they feel comfortable going back with us going up?
Speaker 1: All right? So I think here's this is the crux
Speaker 1: of the issue. You're talking about getting an impact top
Speaker 1: three starting cornerback at at twenty right, and then you
Speaker 1: know whoever it is, whether it's a running back or
Speaker 1: a pass rusher, you want a guy who can play
Speaker 1: with sixty. And then you don't pick again until the
Speaker 1: seventh round, right, fourth? Fourth round? Fourth, Oh, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: we gave up our fifth. Okay, So then you've got
Speaker 1: one twenty seven and then you don't pick till the seventh, right.
Speaker 1: So so this I mean, you're really talking about two
Speaker 1: you gotta hit, Let me have picks, and then hope
Speaker 1: for the best with the rest. Are we comfortable whatever
Speaker 1: corner they leave on the board, That's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: if they leave, if they in fact, if Johnson's in play,
Speaker 1: if Peters is in play, and Jones is in play,
Speaker 1: are we comfortable? And I'm sweating it, and just go
Speaker 1: ahead and taking whatever's Here's the You're sitting there thinking
Speaker 1: there's three guys there and you only got to get
Speaker 1: seven more picks until one of them's in your lap.
Speaker 1: But when one of them goes off the board, it
Speaker 1: makes me wonder, you know, it makes me worry that
Speaker 1: the other two go right after that. I do not
Speaker 1: feel great about both those guys lasting to twenty seven.
Speaker 1: But if you look at the Eagles, though, Maxwell and
Speaker 1: Thurman were added this year, I mean they've added one,
Speaker 1: So I mean, do they do we maybe sweat and say, hey,
Speaker 1: they might not take a corner at all. Let's uh,
Speaker 1: let's let's float the offer out there, see what the
Speaker 1: Eagles say, and just you know, we'll see what they say.
Speaker 1: A deal like that, I can see if they're willing
Speaker 1: to bite. So we'll submit that they have declined, but
Speaker 1: we have a counter offer. Okay, they want pick twenty
Speaker 1: seven and sixty to move up to twenty. Hell no,
Speaker 1: go away. So the first and second round are to
Speaker 1: go out to twenty. Now, that to me, that's a
Speaker 1: gross over payment because seven picks, that tells me they
Speaker 1: they want they have someone at twenty they want right there.
Speaker 1: They want if they if we'll overpay, okay, maybe they'll
Speaker 1: move back. Yeah, they're they're they're throwing they're throwing chum
Speaker 1: in the water to see how bad we want this pick.
Speaker 1: I'm not giving up a first and a second for
Speaker 1: anybody not named Adrian Peterson. Okay, so we're in agreement.
Speaker 1: We're declined. That Yeah, we can't, we can't go there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we decline and Eagles take Byron Jones. So okay, so
Speaker 1: they're gonna pare. They're gonna pair Jones with Maxwell there.
Speaker 1: So not that that that makes sense, though, I've got
Speaker 1: to consider that a massive upset. If Jones is the
Speaker 1: second corner taken on that, it would be surprising. Yeah, definitely,
Speaker 1: it's but this guy likes those athletic type. I mean,
Speaker 1: they might think the guy could play safety though too.
Speaker 1: It might be another thing that he might be he
Speaker 1: might be killing. I'm not saying I'm not saying it's
Speaker 1: a bad pick. I just you know, I think Peters
Speaker 1: and Johnson are better. Yeah, just me. Yeah, there's no
Speaker 1: consensus when it comes to these corners. They're really so
Speaker 1: would you say that's a wow pick then, I mean
Speaker 1: we always talk about wow. It's not wow because we've
Speaker 1: been saying for a while now we think they'll all
Speaker 1: be gone because we would all take Jones if he
Speaker 1: was there. Yeah, and always said Jones is kind of
Speaker 1: in my This is all my opinion, obviously, but Jones
Speaker 1: has kind of been like my consolation prizee, Like, well, really,
Speaker 1: Peters and Johnson are gone. If Jones, IF's the one
Speaker 1: thing we know about Chip Kill, he wants bigger, faster,
Speaker 1: and smarter. That's Byron Jones, a high, high character kid.
Speaker 1: So I think that that fit that marriage makes sense
Speaker 1: at twenty for them, But it does mean Johnson still available,
Speaker 1: and so if we look at it, the next team
Speaker 1: I think we have to worry about drafting a corner
Speaker 1: is twenty two. Yeah, surely it's the Steelers. So let's
Speaker 1: let's talk with Cincinnati at twenty one. Let's see if
Speaker 1: we can possibly do something there. We would vote them
Speaker 1: the same deal we floated Philly. Is that I mean,
Speaker 1: I think we take take away the fifth. What if
Speaker 1: we do just a twenty seven and our third for
Speaker 1: picks twenty one? And you know what's that come out to? Um?
Speaker 1: So we got So we're talking about again pick six
Speaker 1: eighty a third round pick would be one thirty six.
Speaker 1: So the differential to help me on the map here,
Speaker 1: eight hundred for Cincinnati, six eighty for the Cowboys. So
Speaker 1: that's what one twenty right there? Am I right about that?
Speaker 1: It's eight hundred for the eight hundred for the Bengals
Speaker 1: pick at twenty one. Yeah, so we're talking about one
Speaker 1: twenty we flip them the one thirty six. That's that's
Speaker 1: if you it's it's it's it might it might get
Speaker 1: us the Bengals tradition. Let me tell you about my
Speaker 1: history with the Bengals. You have to they're a team
Speaker 1: that you don't traditionally call because they don't traditionally not
Speaker 1: that they're not big on moving, but you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to overpay a little bit to make them maybe want
Speaker 1: to get off that spot. Let's let's let's do this.
Speaker 1: Let's see if they'll throw in their sixth rounder one
Speaker 1: ninety seven. Oh, so you're asking for something back, so
Speaker 1: we'll we'll do one in three twenty seven and ninety
Speaker 1: one thirteen points difference right there on that. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a that that balances the trade, right, that balances
Speaker 1: to trade. They don't like to move? Are they down
Speaker 1: to do it? All right? Let's let's ask this dispense
Speaker 1: who they want? All right? Let's ask what if they
Speaker 1: would just take the What if we just overpay and
Speaker 1: not ask for the flip back? I mean, what if
Speaker 1: we just let's let's I think we try it and
Speaker 1: see if you know, we never know if they if
Speaker 1: they might do it, okay, okay, okay, And if they
Speaker 1: do it, great, if they If they don't, maybe we
Speaker 1: take that away. Okay. I mean, you know who knows
Speaker 1: who Cincinnati wants. Maybe there's someone there they really want,
Speaker 1: or maybe they want to move back. Yeah, there's someone
Speaker 1: that later they cove it. Yeah, six and as team
Speaker 1: needs right there, as we look at them, top three
Speaker 1: tight end tackle and a safety would be so could
Speaker 1: you talk about him Max Williams? At that part people
Speaker 1: talked about funches. They might think that they could get
Speaker 1: one of those guys. So Max Williams at twenty seven
Speaker 1: and pick up a pick. I think who they really
Speaker 1: want as an offensive tackle? Yeah? I think that's that
Speaker 1: could be Humphrey's repeat. There's so many offensive tackle options.
Speaker 1: I think they feel comfortable getting one the later first round.
Speaker 1: So let's let's float that offer. Can't see what happens.
Speaker 1: We have a deal, okay, so we before we you know,
Speaker 1: do a done deal. Are we comfortable with moving we're
Speaker 1: giving up ninety one now, you know we hate to
Speaker 1: give up the top one hundred pick here, yeah, I do,
Speaker 1: but I want to make sure we get the first
Speaker 1: round pick right instead of worrying about the third round pick.
Speaker 1: We don't know who's gonna be on the board at
Speaker 1: ninety one. Okay, let's worry about make sure where we
Speaker 1: get this first round pick, right, Okay, I hate trading
Speaker 1: this pick lot less than I hated trading the third
Speaker 1: last year, because it was seventy eight last year. You're
Speaker 1: talking about a pretty big difference. Right. You don't want
Speaker 1: to give up a top one hundred pick, but you
Speaker 1: don't feel bad about sending ninety one to somebody you're
Speaker 1: nine picks away from one hundred. I mean it's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's not good, but it's a low cost third round.
Speaker 1: We feel good about this player that we won, Kevin
Speaker 1: john I mean yeah, we feel he can be a
Speaker 1: Day one starter or a guy that instantly helps our
Speaker 1: cornerback depth, a player that is a is a big
Speaker 1: upgrade for our defense. So I think that's that. No.
Speaker 1: One we get Kevin Johnson makes this all work. Let's
Speaker 1: go get him. Kevin Johnson is so all right, So
Speaker 1: deal is done. We go up. We got Kevin Johnson. Oh,
Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson's Calvin Johnson to Dallas. I picked twenty one,
Speaker 1: pick twenty went on and then we lost the third
Speaker 1: round pick and then one and we can pick it
Speaker 1: back and we get back to nine seven. So okay,
Speaker 1: so we've got We've got the the arguably the second
Speaker 1: best I mean, depending on who you arguably one of
Speaker 1: the top two quarterbacks draft. Yeah, our running backs were
Speaker 1: wiped out. We didn't have a running back to get.
Speaker 1: We went ahead and went and got a cornerback who
Speaker 1: we think is just as good as potentially as Trey Wayne.
Speaker 1: And now your last five first round picks or either
Speaker 1: offensive lineman or cornerbacks. Yeah, I mean, just a tidbit,
Speaker 1: and not that I want to admit this, but part
Speaker 1: of moving up for Kevin Johnson. Part of it is
Speaker 1: that we like the player so much, right, But also
Speaker 1: part of it is I think we're terrified about twenty
Speaker 1: seven and who might be there, who might be left
Speaker 1: for us? Yeah, you know, just picking from the scraps
Speaker 1: and well worrying about a deal. You know, moving back
Speaker 1: it's not going to be an option, and so you know,
Speaker 1: moving up to twenty one eliminates that we get a
Speaker 1: good player. We have to sacrifice ninety one. But I
Speaker 1: feel good about the player and moving up for our sake,
Speaker 1: for our sake, Peters is on the board right yes,
Speaker 1: for their sake, he might not be. It's a great point.
Speaker 1: And that's where Armock draft is talking about Peters is there.
Speaker 1: People are probably saying, right now, we'll wait for Peters.
Speaker 1: He might not be on their board for them. So
Speaker 1: that's what that's what you have to weigh right there.
Speaker 1: Do you get that corner at that particular time, the
Speaker 1: second best corner in the draft, and that applies, that
Speaker 1: applies to so many other people. I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: much longer list of guys that we'd probably be willing
Speaker 1: to take the name. And I don't feel great about
Speaker 1: Peter's even making it the twenty seven. Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1: Steelers twenty two, Baltimore twenty six. Yeah. I mean you could.
Speaker 1: I mean and I mean, okay, we just took Kevin
Speaker 1: Johnson off the board. The Steelers could take Peters and
Speaker 1: with the next pick, you know, it can be that
Speaker 1: you can go from having that happened. They chase here
Speaker 1: last year a favorite. They got all their their top
Speaker 1: three or four targets before Zach Martin. Last year all
Speaker 1: went like okay, we get to sixty now, Well just
Speaker 1: a quick thing, uh, the Bengals, so to see who
Speaker 1: they took a twenty seven I'm sorry, they took et
Speaker 1: Cedric Kaboohee at twenty seven, So they got they traded back,
Speaker 1: got the guy they wanted and a player that might
Speaker 1: have been in consideration for US if at twenty seven. Wo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it'll be interesting to watch a boohe's career just
Speaker 1: knowing that could have been our pick at twenty seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: boohe kind of fixing that mold with with Clemmings, with Flowers.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones talked about it yesterday offensive tackle. Don't be surprised,
Speaker 1: you know he floated that idea for you yesterday. So
Speaker 1: a Buoye, Clemmings, all those guys could have been in
Speaker 1: play there at twenty seven. This is a team, I mean,
Speaker 1: I obviously you have a lot of needs on defense
Speaker 1: and things like that, but with Free and Tyre and yeah,
Speaker 1: they could afford to take him more than other teams
Speaker 1: could too, because you want your first round pick to
Speaker 1: play right. But you know, a buoy could sit here
Speaker 1: absolutely and recover and be your swing tackle after you know,
Speaker 1: you could put him on the pup and have him
Speaker 1: be your third tackle. One quick other note about the
Speaker 1: first round, Shane Ray. He was available at twenty seven,
Speaker 1: so that that that's a conversation we would have had
Speaker 1: to have. Yeah, he went off the board with thirty
Speaker 1: two of the Patriots, so it won't be a discussion
Speaker 1: for us in the second round. Okay, so we have
Speaker 1: a first cornerback. I'm way happier giving up ninety one
Speaker 1: to get a corner that we all feel great about
Speaker 1: as opposed to trying to talk myself into four or
Speaker 1: five different avenues at twenty seven. Yeah it's Gregory Ray. Yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of like yeah, yeah, but I don't know what
Speaker 1: I want to do. As opposed to Kevin Johnson. I'm like, okay, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm with you, got it? Go ahead, all right? First
Speaker 1: round cornerback we have, We feel great about it. Now.
Speaker 1: Second round, I think we're looking offense now or yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, running backs an option at sixty. I think
Speaker 1: I think this is the sweet spot. We've talked about
Speaker 1: this all along. This is where a running back needs
Speaker 1: to be taken, and and and depending on who's that
Speaker 1: on that board. You know, we've talked about guys. We've
Speaker 1: talked about Duke Johnson, We've talked about Yelding. We've talked
Speaker 1: about a gaya. We've talked about these guys. I think
Speaker 1: sixties where we need to think about grabbing a running
Speaker 1: back myself. And uh okay, second rounds getting started. Just
Speaker 1: looking at it. Uh TJ yelled in to Jacksonville. Thirty six. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of curveball people that whoa so
Speaker 1: TJ yelled in. The third running back drafted there at
Speaker 1: thirty six, damn one, Dave Calwell doing some stuff down there.
Speaker 1: A player we've been talking about, Damarius Randall off the
Speaker 1: board of the Giants. So second round guy. We we
Speaker 1: didn't mention him in the first round, but you know,
Speaker 1: somewhere in those top forty picks, good chance he comes
Speaker 1: off the board, he goes to the Giants. So that's
Speaker 1: two defensive backs we don't we didn't really want to
Speaker 1: see in this division. But yeah, Byron Byron Jones and
Speaker 1: the Baron's Randall. But you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 1: There Now we're about twenty picks into the second round.
Speaker 1: All the backs are available except Girly Gordon and yelled
Speaker 1: and do we think about moving up here? We feel
Speaker 1: good about sitting at sixty. Wait, see who falls to us? Where? What?
Speaker 1: What pick number are we on? Right now? We are
Speaker 1: we're about twenty picks in, so say we're around fifty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so a movie ten. I'm sitting. I'm sitting. I'm sitting
Speaker 1: because I've named a bunch of guys. I'm sorry I
Speaker 1: lost Yeldon. That would have been one of my considerations.
Speaker 1: But now I'm kind of thinking Duke Johnson A g
Speaker 1: I A. I'm thinking, yeah, exact. Yeah. I feel we're
Speaker 1: gonna lose Coleman and we're twenty. I have a feeling
Speaker 1: we're gonna lose that somebody, somebody we like will be there. Though. Okay,
Speaker 1: just as you say that, let's rock Coleman fifty four
Speaker 1: to Detroit. Yeah, so he's gone. Sorry, Brian, Okay, well
Speaker 1: that that takes my guy out of play. He's not
Speaker 1: a cowboy, Brian, Okay, you feel about that. I'm you
Speaker 1: know what, I've still got a draft here. I can't cry.
Speaker 1: I'll cry after the draft, is what I'll do. But Okay,
Speaker 1: that means that means, that means that Duke john And
Speaker 1: still still on the boarder. Right and here we are,
Speaker 1: we're at fifty nine, we're at sixty okay, Duke Johnson
Speaker 1: a mere Abdula Jagie and just a quickly, you know,
Speaker 1: we talked about running backs. Just some other guys. We've
Speaker 1: talked about. Devin Smith, the wide receiver from the House
Speaker 1: State off the board, Daniel Hunter, he went to Carolina
Speaker 1: a few picks before we did want Yes, so Danell
Speaker 1: Hunters off the board. R Eli Harold, he just went.
Speaker 1: Trey Flowers is available, Paul Dawson's available. But I think
Speaker 1: we feel good about running back here, like we've just
Speaker 1: been talking about, just for argument's sake, just because I'm
Speaker 1: sure there are people listening thinking about this. Um some
Speaker 1: more pass rusher? I mean, is there DIGGI zooa still
Speaker 1: a possibility? He has gone? He went gone Saints earlier
Speaker 1: in the second round. What about um, how is there
Speaker 1: anybody else we're forgetting Mario Edwards? Maybe? Uh, Mario Edwards
Speaker 1: went earlier. All right, I'm the falcon. This makes it
Speaker 1: easy because that's I mean, if you're not taking a
Speaker 1: running back here, then you would prefer it to be
Speaker 1: a pass rusher, right right, They're all gone and it's
Speaker 1: really not even a conversation. But you're talking about me,
Speaker 1: and I think We've all talked about Frank Clark. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of got a Frank, but I gotta I've
Speaker 1: lost my third round pick. This started exactly, this started
Speaker 1: at at fifth round. And now you're talking about taking
Speaker 1: him at sixty. No, no, no, I'm talking about defensive.
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, would you take him at sixty? I'm
Speaker 1: talking about taking it. I would rather have Frank Clark
Speaker 1: than make than Odigi and those guys. That's what i'm
Speaker 1: you would take Frank Clark at sixty? Though on my
Speaker 1: board I have him in the third round. Would would
Speaker 1: you take him at sixty? You know what I would? Okay,
Speaker 1: I would, I would, But I'll tell you what it
Speaker 1: was your chest. No, No, because I'm thinking exactly because
Speaker 1: I want Duke Johnson Moore. Okay, should I say that
Speaker 1: I want Duke Johnson at sixty? Okay, Jagi, he's still
Speaker 1: on the board. Now. We talked about me the bone
Speaker 1: on bone. No, this is a great Okay, I'm just
Speaker 1: all right. You're you're the draft master. I didn't mean
Speaker 1: to interrupt. Go ahead, No, I would you say it?
Speaker 1: He's a top forty player. Here's the thing it is,
Speaker 1: But our doctors are scared we could take these reports
Speaker 1: are not not favorable. Yeah, I would. You could ignore
Speaker 1: running back here if you hadn't given up that third.
Speaker 1: I would feel fine taking a GI at ninety one.
Speaker 1: To be totally honest, I last that long. I think
Speaker 1: that that's an option i'd still take. Well it's not now, though,
Speaker 1: I would take Clark at ninety one over a GI myself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he's gonna be a super If they draft this kid,
Speaker 1: you were actually gonna hug him, I might. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: let's go on, we get it all right, Well, it's
Speaker 1: all right, we're on the clock. Yeah, pick sixty. We're
Speaker 1: out of time. No, we wrote Duke Johnson down before
Speaker 1: we started this conversation. Black will to turn it in
Speaker 1: were Johnson? All ye, Duke Johnson six, We got Johnson.
Speaker 1: I feel Johnson and Johnson first two vergo. I feel
Speaker 1: john Jets would be happy with that, both acc players. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel freaking fantastic if that's what happens on Thursday
Speaker 1: and Friday. Okay, Now, the problem is we're gonna be
Speaker 1: sitting here at ninety one without a pick. You're done. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The rest of the second day is kind of boring
Speaker 1: for us. Well, it can't be any more boring than
Speaker 1: when they were done picking fifteen minutes into the round
Speaker 1: on Friday last year. Yeah, I'm with you on let's
Speaker 1: do it quick before we get to the third day
Speaker 1: pick ninety one that we had Cincinnati Bengals, they owned
Speaker 1: that pick. Yeah, going forward, they picked Senquez Golson the
Speaker 1: corner out of oldness in size corp A not a
Speaker 1: bad player, didn't beat LSU though they be looking at it.
Speaker 1: Cedric abouohe and Senquez Golson or Kevin Johnson, that's what
Speaker 1: the deal comes out, well plus the sixth rounder. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel I feel good about Johnson. I do too.
Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson is at worst the third corner on this
Speaker 1: step chart right away, worst maybe better. And Duke Johnson
Speaker 1: is at worst the number two running back on this
Speaker 1: roster right away, I think, Yeah, I'm with you. I'm man. Okay,
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Speaker 1: dot Com Draft show Swboys on the Clock. Back here
Speaker 1: at the Draft Show. It's our seven round mock draft.
Speaker 1: Dame Brugler, David Hellman, Ken Garrison joining you here from
Speaker 1: the s WBC Mortgage Studios. We have so far. We've
Speaker 1: made a deal to trade up to get Kevin Johnson,
Speaker 1: the very talented cornerback from wake Force. We're happy about that.
Speaker 1: Brian brought us, just did cart wheels down the hallway
Speaker 1: with Duke Johnson. Felt good about that. I think a
Speaker 1: GYE would have been a consideration. Gie. It's it's the
Speaker 1: bone on bone stuff and it's hard, and I hope
Speaker 1: he has a heck of a career. It's so productive.
Speaker 1: But once again, who we Bouhe went to Cincinnati at
Speaker 1: twenty seven and then they also took sent in quiz
Speaker 1: goals this corner. So yeah, the guy that we really
Speaker 1: didn't like there. Yeah, we didn't like that spot. So
Speaker 1: I think that tells the corner might have been wiped
Speaker 1: out at that point. Yeah, so that that looks like
Speaker 1: to me a very good deal. Okay, we sat out
Speaker 1: the third round. We're now back into the fourth round.
Speaker 1: Eight three is about to start and we have five picks. Okay,
Speaker 1: we have fourth, the fifth six that we picked up
Speaker 1: in that trade the Bengals, right, and then two seven. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let's go see if we can do some good
Speaker 1: Dane right with fourth round getting started, Um, let's point
Speaker 1: out some players still available. Frank Clark, he is still
Speaker 1: on the board. He did not go the third Calm down.
Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks, the linebacker round of Texas grey Flowers slipped
Speaker 1: to the third round somehow like him. Never mind, he
Speaker 1: just went off the board. So he's gone. Um, so
Speaker 1: we're picking. Let's see what pick are we in the fourth?
Speaker 1: We are one seven, so that's twenty eighth pick in
Speaker 1: the first or in the fourth. Let's move along here
Speaker 1: in the fourth and all right, wait a minute, do
Speaker 1: we need to think about doing something here? I'm getting
Speaker 1: a little worried now about start losing some guys, do
Speaker 1: we Let let's talk about trading off for Clark, because
Speaker 1: here we are. Let's look at this. You know, we're
Speaker 1: up in the middle of the fourth round. He's still available.
Speaker 1: Let's look up. So if we trade all right, that's
Speaker 1: six that we got from the Bengals. What if we
Speaker 1: package that with our fourth one? Uh seven? All right,
Speaker 1: to go up? Say, let's look at what Kansas City
Speaker 1: at one eighteen. Okay, so we're trying to get to
Speaker 1: Kansas City at one eighteen days spots. Help me on
Speaker 1: the math here at Kansas City at eighteen we're talking
Speaker 1: fourth round, right, fifty eight points? Fifty eight points, our
Speaker 1: pick is worth forty five. That's thirteen points. I can
Speaker 1: do bath bathic aristhmetic they I just did that, but
Speaker 1: not in English. No, So at thirteen point to we're
Speaker 1: trying and offer. You said we had that sixth since
Speaker 1: from Cincinnati one ninety seven, one ninety seven. That gets
Speaker 1: it done on the spot right there, it's thirteen points.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's is that perfect? So you're gonna go
Speaker 1: grab your gun runner, all right? So this is the
Speaker 1: criminal round. I don't want to wait. This is the
Speaker 1: criminal round. I'm getting a little you know what. And
Speaker 1: I said this on the Draft show before we all
Speaker 1: talk about this. I'm a little aggressive when it comes
Speaker 1: to you. Are you are aggress If I've been in
Speaker 1: Dane just want to sit in the cut? Well, you
Speaker 1: guys like picks. I understand that. But if I could
Speaker 1: just flip a sixth round pick, did I obtained in
Speaker 1: a trade to go and get a guy as money? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know what? I will say not I don't. I
Speaker 1: hate giving away top one hundred picks. But when you're
Speaker 1: talking like, I mean, what are the odds? One are
Speaker 1: the odds that you're really hitting with your sixth round pick?
Speaker 1: I mean, who? Who the god Brady at one nine nine?
Speaker 1: Who the last two? They didn't have a six round
Speaker 1: pick last year? No? No, Tom Brady? Right, all right,
Speaker 1: that's I'm just saying, But who's who who they draft
Speaker 1: last year and the sixth that they didn't have a
Speaker 1: six it's but yeah, the guy they took in the
Speaker 1: six two years ago is not playing football. You're absolutely right,
Speaker 1: You're absolutely I just I want to take an aggressive approach.
Speaker 1: If I went ahead and got something for somebody to
Speaker 1: make a trade, I'm going in. That's I mean, I
Speaker 1: feel fine with it. When you're talking about day three,
Speaker 1: that doesn't bother. I'm trying to think of the teams
Speaker 1: between me and Kansas City right now, and just let's
Speaker 1: let's look Saint Louis right now, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Arizona, Carolina,
Speaker 1: Baltimore again, San Francisco. Do not feel great about Frank
Speaker 1: Clark making it through there? If you're going if that's
Speaker 1: if that's who we're going to get. Yeah, Francisco, I'm
Speaker 1: in if If I don't even I don't, I mean,
Speaker 1: all right, let's talk about is there anything else that
Speaker 1: we need? Though? I mean, I want to get that
Speaker 1: defensive ends? If if we're doing this deal, we're doing it.
Speaker 1: We're doing it for Clark. Is there anybody else that
Speaker 1: we need to be thinking about? Trey Flowers came off
Speaker 1: the board, Jordan Hicks came off the board. I think
Speaker 1: we're looking defense here, linebacker. It's got to be defense seven.
Speaker 1: How about like a would Perryman be in the situation here?
Speaker 1: You went off the board in the third round. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: that's so he's not an option. What about where's my
Speaker 1: where's my defensive end ranking? Here? Who else we got here? Well?
Speaker 1: Nudist roaches? We don't. We talked about him potentially, Jared potentially.
Speaker 1: I want the defensive end I'm going to get. I
Speaker 1: don't worry about those tackles. I'm going to get me.
Speaker 1: I think I could grab a tackle later in this draft.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go for a Clark here right, Well, here,
Speaker 1: here's the other thing have we done? We've done our homework.
Speaker 1: We feel good about the character. We feel good about
Speaker 1: going up and get getting a player that is not clean.
Speaker 1: There's some missues there. Ryan loves the guy. I mean,
Speaker 1: we feel we feel okay with all the work we've done.
Speaker 1: I also feel good about the talent. Yeah, I know you,
Speaker 1: no question. I feel good about that guy screaming off
Speaker 1: the edge and sacking whoever plays quarterback at Philadelphia. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's who I feel good about. Do it. Let's go
Speaker 1: up and get him. Okay, all right, we're gonna make
Speaker 1: that deal. We're giving up one twenty seven and one
Speaker 1: ninety seven. I just want you to I just want
Speaker 1: to point out to you how happy I am right
Speaker 1: now when the live ammunition is flying this weekend. You
Speaker 1: have completely jinxd this like Clark is not going to
Speaker 1: happen now because you've been that Adam into a mock draft.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying you could. You could have tucked him
Speaker 1: away in your back pocket, you know, and kept you know.
Speaker 1: I'm great, you know. To be honest, I'm grateful the
Speaker 1: fact he's in the fourth round, but I think the
Speaker 1: character stuff makes it possible. I've been watching him, watched
Speaker 1: him since the third round. He was gonna be my
Speaker 1: pick at ninety one. Is this is do we think
Speaker 1: this is realistic? That he's what's the character problem? But
Speaker 1: I mean, you love him enough that you'll take him
Speaker 1: at ninety one. I don't we know that somebody else?
Speaker 1: That's me, But how do we know somebody else doesn't
Speaker 1: feel that he's He think he's a fringe top one
Speaker 1: hundred guy. Maybe he goes top one hundred, Maybe he
Speaker 1: doesn't that character stuff. There might only be six teams
Speaker 1: in the league that would take a chance on this guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know who knows he could be off every other board.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking stupid by going and getting him right now? Okay,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to get my player. It's not impossible six,
Speaker 1: It's not implausible that he could be there at one
Speaker 1: eighteen or even one twenty seven. I think it's definitely possible.
Speaker 1: But I think I'll be surprised if he lasts passed,
Speaker 1: and I think we are surprised to see him there.
Speaker 1: That's why we're going to get him. You know what
Speaker 1: I told you, cats, I've been watching him since ninety one.
Speaker 1: I mean I was that was why No. No. Ninety
Speaker 1: one was my pick. You can adopt him when he
Speaker 1: moves to I think we feel a lot better getting
Speaker 1: him getting him here at one eight, so much happier
Speaker 1: getting him mac here than at ninety one. Scarity draft.
Speaker 1: All right, Frank Clark's remember of the Dallas Cowboys. So
Speaker 1: let's uh, you want me to go to the press conference? Yes,
Speaker 1: I want you to meet me. You're his agent, right,
Speaker 1: I want you to meet him at the front door
Speaker 1: with his jersey. And I know there's some issues there,
Speaker 1: but I love the ability. Okay, that's me right there.
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's fast forward through here. Um, we're
Speaker 1: gonna go to the fifth round. Yeah, let's just uh,
Speaker 1: for the sake of timing and everything, Well, we'll do
Speaker 1: no more trades. We'll just look. We have three picks
Speaker 1: left the fifth two sevens. I lost that sixth round
Speaker 1: or so, no more trades. We'll just we'll look at
Speaker 1: the fifth round pick and then two sevenths. So with
Speaker 1: the fifth round pick one sixty three top options available.
Speaker 1: We have some defensive tackles Gave right out of Auburn.
Speaker 1: I like him, Linebacker big ten Jake Ryan at a Michigan,
Speaker 1: Damian Wilson Minnesota like Damian Wilson a lot from Minnesota.
Speaker 1: But if we look towards offense, maybe time Montgomery still available.
Speaker 1: Stanford a player that maybe not so much offense but
Speaker 1: special teams. Uh, we've talked a lot about him, maybe
Speaker 1: you know, feeling that role that that we need from. Uh.
Speaker 1: Lucien Harris? Yes, Harris? What are you looking at? What's
Speaker 1: it looked like at tackle? What's it look like at quarterback? Tackle?
Speaker 1: Let's see here? Tackle? You're probably you're my offensive tackle.
Speaker 1: You're probably it's wiped out a little bit. We've got guys. Uh,
Speaker 1: I got some seventh round guys, I mean six seventh
Speaker 1: round guys. We might need to think about all Myris
Speaker 1: Tyres Thompsons available. Andrew danelle M Danelsa Iowa. Yes, Joy Robinson, Uh,
Speaker 1: let's see who else. Lawrence Gibson a player we like,
Speaker 1: still there, but so Laurds Gibson, that's name. Let's let's
Speaker 1: hold off on him. Let's let's uh. I gave him
Speaker 1: a p F A grade, but I think he is
Speaker 1: gonna get drafted. I grated him better than this. I
Speaker 1: grated him better. I really, I mean, you look at
Speaker 1: our three picks. I really like it. On paper, But
Speaker 1: when you're talking about trading and stuff, you're thought you're
Speaker 1: getting into the sixth round late in the draft, and
Speaker 1: I mean this team needs a swing tackle. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that's definitely the downside. I think you got to keep
Speaker 1: that in mind though. I mean, Chaz Green has always
Speaker 1: been my guy. If the draft, stay, if you if
Speaker 1: you stay where you are. It's the words chalk, right, chalk,
Speaker 1: chalk chalk you do that if you chalk this draft?
Speaker 1: Fourth round? Uh, Chaz Green would have been my kind
Speaker 1: of guy, maybe even a third round guy, maybe ninety one.
Speaker 1: If Chaz Green was still on the board, I'd be all.
Speaker 1: I'd be all with you there. Yeah. And if he's
Speaker 1: not in this scenario in the fifth, yeah, Chad's greenforth
Speaker 1: them for the injuries. I'd probably take him in a second. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's that good of a player. Yeah, but no, he's
Speaker 1: Chad's Green's off the board. I don't like our tackle
Speaker 1: options here. I keep going back to Montgomery. I've been
Speaker 1: hard on Montgomery he throughout this process. Yeah, but in
Speaker 1: the fifth round, in the late fifth round, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at my draft board right now here that I've got
Speaker 1: and I've got Montgomery in the fifth So I have
Speaker 1: absolutely no issues at all if someone like yourself, Dane
Speaker 1: steps up on the table and says, if you can
Speaker 1: give me a guy that could be kind of a
Speaker 1: mismatched player tossing the balls or running back, be a
Speaker 1: punt returner, be a kick returner, put him some stuff
Speaker 1: on the outside of the wide receiver. Let me ask
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, And I don't have a
Speaker 1: problem with it if that's where we end up going.
Speaker 1: But I mean, all right, your top three eight receivers,
Speaker 1: Sat des Terrence Beasley. He's not gonna beat those guys out. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: You feel that confident about him as a returner and
Speaker 1: a special teams guy that he's gonna be a Day one.
Speaker 1: He's a forty six. You're not worried that he won't
Speaker 1: win this job. I forgot about Street two by the way,
Speaker 1: streets there, and yeah, and that's a receiver. That's a
Speaker 1: guy that you took in the fifth round last year.
Speaker 1: So you don't want this guy jumping him either. So really,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm thinking Montgomery needs to be a hell
Speaker 1: of a gunner and a hell of a returner if
Speaker 1: you're gonna take it. I think he is, and I
Speaker 1: think he's a guy that you take for special teams
Speaker 1: and anything he gives you on offense and year one
Speaker 1: is a bonus. Yeah see, I got the kid, the
Speaker 1: Whitehead kid down in the seventh round, the lucky Whitehead
Speaker 1: Florida Atlanta. Excuse me? Is that type of guy if
Speaker 1: you had to go Montgomery to me? I got him
Speaker 1: on my board in the fifth. I mean that's kind
Speaker 1: of where I see. I'm just I'm not gonna feel
Speaker 1: good if like Cole Beasley beats this dude out for
Speaker 1: I don't think he will. I think that I think
Speaker 1: that this is a pick. I think this is a
Speaker 1: pick that the special team's coach would be too banging
Speaker 1: on the table. I've been I think we've been tough
Speaker 1: on time Montgomery. But to get him in the fifth
Speaker 1: I think that's good value. Yeah, Okay, Time Montgomerys are picked.
Speaker 1: All right, good, So we've gone let's see here, we
Speaker 1: lost that six round pick for Clark. So what pick
Speaker 1: number was that hundred sixty three in the fifth round? Yeah,
Speaker 1: for a time Montgomery. So we we take a round
Speaker 1: off in the six, we go to the seventh. We
Speaker 1: have two picks here now see now we were we
Speaker 1: were off in the draft anyway. We didn't have a
Speaker 1: six round pick, right right, the day started, right, so
Speaker 1: we used a six round pick to gil back in
Speaker 1: and get a player we wanted. So good use of
Speaker 1: not having a pick. Dane did a nice job of
Speaker 1: getting us a pick so we can play, continue to
Speaker 1: play in the draft. Okay, so we uh, we have
Speaker 1: two thirty six and two forty three so far, we
Speaker 1: have a cornerback, a running back, a defensive end, wide receiver,
Speaker 1: special teams player. So we've gone defense offense, defense, offense.
Speaker 1: Let's go back to defense. Let's see, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: linebackers we have left available? Ben Heeny Kansas, Bryce Hager Baylor. Uh,
Speaker 1: some defensive tackles. Xavier Williams Northern Iowa. Here's a name,
Speaker 1: Central Michigan's Litterious Walton, a player I think more of
Speaker 1: a fifth sixth round player. Right, he's still on the
Speaker 1: board here in the seventh A guy that fell through
Speaker 1: the through the cracks a little bit Chippawa like that
Speaker 1: fit you know. I we we addressed the front seven
Speaker 1: with with Frank Clark. Walton would give us a little
Speaker 1: more of an interior presence, A guy that I think
Speaker 1: he play knows with the one. He could play three
Speaker 1: if you want him too. He has versatility. He does
Speaker 1: have some versatility. I see where you're going in and
Speaker 1: I'm very surprised that he's still available at this point
Speaker 1: in the draft. And I'm kind of looking down at
Speaker 1: my board. I had him in the fifth round on
Speaker 1: my board, So that kind of tells you a little
Speaker 1: bit about what we think about the player. And I
Speaker 1: like the versatility part of it too, and I think
Speaker 1: that's really important. And this is a guy that can
Speaker 1: rush the passer, that supportant from that inside spot you
Speaker 1: want to disruptive up the field. Guy Walton is that guy.
Speaker 1: Tape is good on him for that twenty Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: big guy that can. Yeah, he wasn't overly productive divin college.
Speaker 1: But you you're liking what we're staying here. You don't
Speaker 1: have to sell me on defensive tack like they don't
Speaker 1: seem to think defensive tackle is a problem. But I
Speaker 1: would like to add another body to that. I mean,
Speaker 1: you got Crawford, McLean and Hayden, and that doesn't strike
Speaker 1: a whole lot of fear in any place. Well, I
Speaker 1: think they'd like to upgrade, upgrade h a man brain
Speaker 1: did hey Nick Hayde. Yeah, too many names in my head,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think they would like to upgrade Hayden
Speaker 1: with a more athletic guy. Yeah. It kind of goes
Speaker 1: back to like if you stay there, picked Carl Davis.
Speaker 1: You know, it's more of a guy. I mean that
Speaker 1: type of a guy. We think. We think this guy
Speaker 1: is a lot better than Ken Bishop or Davon Coleman. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think so I gets an upgrade, and I think
Speaker 1: he has workable traits, a guy that you feel good developing.
Speaker 1: And I think he would work really well with with
Speaker 1: Marion Nelly. So, I mean Nick Hayden, he was a
Speaker 1: six round pick, you know, right. I mean I think
Speaker 1: this Walton could be a similar type of mold where
Speaker 1: he developed into a maybe a possible starter. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: my notes, I just went, I'm sorry, pulled him up
Speaker 1: late here, I say, always going forward, you know, kick
Speaker 1: gets a push up the field. We'll close on the
Speaker 1: play field redirect for a big man. We'll try and
Speaker 1: spin himself free. Hard man to block on the move,
Speaker 1: chase to play short stepper, I mean short stepper, little
Speaker 1: little baby steps there, tough at the point, quick arm
Speaker 1: over move, always active, always stays moving, six five three
Speaker 1: nineteen pounds. You know I'm looking for trades man. LT.
Speaker 1: Walton is a guy, Dane. Let's turn that card in.
Speaker 1: Walton is our pick at let's see two thirty six.
Speaker 1: So good, Wow, shooting down two forty three. Our final
Speaker 1: pick executive of the years here on this board. We
Speaker 1: didn't draft Zach Martin. We're not gonna get that one.
Speaker 1: Keeney and Hagar just went off the board. So those
Speaker 1: two linebackers are off. Are we looking what are we
Speaker 1: looking at here? I'll tell you what. Dave brought up
Speaker 1: a point about that tackle. Yeah, that swing tackle. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: that's something that we could look at. And we talked
Speaker 1: about Lawrence Gibson earlier. He's still on the board. Corey Robinson,
Speaker 1: South Carolina, He's still on the board. I don't like
Speaker 1: Corey Robinson athletically. I have a real problem with him.
Speaker 1: Say there's a reason he's still on the board, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with Terry Poole out of San Diego State.
Speaker 1: He's still around. Um, it's a few other players, but
Speaker 1: I keep coming back to Gibson Virginia Tech. Now, this
Speaker 1: is a player I graded as a priority free agent.
Speaker 1: But I think I understold him a little bit. I
Speaker 1: think you got him poor. I mean I don't think
Speaker 1: you got him right. No, I mean personally I agree.
Speaker 1: I think there's what the hell well, there's more upside
Speaker 1: there than I think I gave him credit for initially.
Speaker 1: I think you see, you see the foot quick news,
Speaker 1: you see the lower body coordination. He can shuffle and square.
Speaker 1: I worry about his eyes. They're all over the place.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree. You see more spurts than consistency with right.
Speaker 1: But those spurts are are are pretty uh pretty excellent.
Speaker 1: So I think that this late in the draft. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're talking about good values. I valuated him against Ohio State, Virginia,
Speaker 1: North Carolina in Miami. He's playing good competition. The thing
Speaker 1: that I thought about him, that was the best trade
Speaker 1: about him. He's gonna keep the feat, He's gonna keep
Speaker 1: his man block. He's gonna fight to keep his man block.
Speaker 1: I think, you know you gotta have a guy that
Speaker 1: when he comes off. I mean, Dane's absolutely right. I
Speaker 1: think he lacks a little, looking at the notes, a
Speaker 1: little upper body power to hold him in place, plays
Speaker 1: a little over extended, but he could do you know,
Speaker 1: he Dane talked about the eyes. I saw some things
Speaker 1: though where he did play some switch with you know man,
Speaker 1: you know, taking man and then being able to do that.
Speaker 1: Staying with the blocks again, I said, was a good thing,
Speaker 1: making the cutoff blocks. That's something in the scheme you
Speaker 1: gotta be able to do. You gotta be able to
Speaker 1: get outside. Look at the measurables six six, three H
Speaker 1: five five O four and the forty that tells you
Speaker 1: this is not a slow footed player. Over thirty five
Speaker 1: inch arms. Yeah, I mean so a well built kid.
Speaker 1: A few things that you know. He played right tackle
Speaker 1: and left talk of Virginia Tech right but only really
Speaker 1: one year as the full time starter this past year,
Speaker 1: So I think that's that's a little bit of a concern,
Speaker 1: the fact that he's already twenty four years old, an
Speaker 1: older guy. Yeah, but again at this point in the
Speaker 1: seventh round, I think we feel pretty good about it.
Speaker 1: I'd last line of that. I wouldn't say he has
Speaker 1: great body control, but you don't see him on the ground.
Speaker 1: So that's important to talking about an offensive tackle. How
Speaker 1: awesome would it feel if you were an offensive tackle prospect,
Speaker 1: and you got to hang out in the room with
Speaker 1: Tiring and Doug Free and know that like there's I mean,
Speaker 1: nobody's expecting you to do anything but like learn stuff
Speaker 1: at least a year. But that's what I'm saying, though.
Speaker 1: The swing tackle is going to be important. Yeah, sure
Speaker 1: if the draft. If the draft stays chalk, you know,
Speaker 1: if you keep all you know and they don't trade
Speaker 1: and they don't, I mean yeah, and you're right. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know Doug Free was hurt last year. You want
Speaker 1: a guy who can do special teams and jumbo and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, right, you need it better if Jeremy Parnell,
Speaker 1: you do. And hey, Jeremy Parnell made a lot of money,
Speaker 1: but there's some faults with Jeremy Parnell. I know, seventh
Speaker 1: round might not be ideal for picking if this If
Speaker 1: the draft stays chalk and nothing crazy happens, which I
Speaker 1: don't think that's not going to happen. But I'm fine
Speaker 1: taking a tackle in the first two days bother me
Speaker 1: at all. I think we addressed going through this draft.
Speaker 1: I think we addressed other than the linebacker spot. Yep.
Speaker 1: I think we addressed everything that we need and I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's some listeners and viewers who would say safety too. Yeah. Well, Randy,
Speaker 1: we lost Randall in the second round waiting for Duke Johnson.
Speaker 1: I'm not I just I know how badly a lot
Speaker 1: of Cowboys fans if I'm with you on that, Okay,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean for the most part, Gibson was
Speaker 1: our pick there. So that that that finishes our drafts.
Speaker 1: We uh, we have six players. So we started the
Speaker 1: draft a seven draft picks right, ended up getting six players, right.
Speaker 1: But we feel good about that. We feel good about
Speaker 1: the six players we got. That's fine. We didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we went up and we got a player that I love.
Speaker 1: I know you guys are a little questionable on that.
Speaker 1: But but going up and getting Johnson I think was
Speaker 1: a very smart thing. It was a small move. It
Speaker 1: wasn't a massive run to the top, like you know,
Speaker 1: giving up a you know, big picks. You gave up
Speaker 1: enough to go get a guy. It's the second best
Speaker 1: cool drive down on the stadium, pro shop and get
Speaker 1: a Duke Johnson jersey, like right away, well, I think
Speaker 1: we all look'll get you and like, what what do
Speaker 1: you wear? Xcel Triple? I'm a big fat guy, wear medium.
Speaker 1: You hate giving up that ninety first pick. At the
Speaker 1: end of the day, let's be honest, like, let's not
Speaker 1: overvalue it. You know you hate giving it up, hate it,
Speaker 1: but it's a ninety first pick. It's not a top
Speaker 1: ninety player. If if you're given up, I mean, like
Speaker 1: I said, I know, I mean in the grand scheme
Speaker 1: of things, it doesn't sound like a lot, but I
Speaker 1: feel way better dealing ninety one seventy. Yeah, I hated
Speaker 1: giving up. You had to do that to get the deal. Hey, okay,
Speaker 1: we promised you that we were going to give you
Speaker 1: an opportunity to comment on the draft. Those that have
Speaker 1: listened to the draft as we've gone along, your thoughts,
Speaker 1: things you've done, different, things you've done again, We're always
Speaker 1: We're doing fine. Just your quick thoughts on it and
Speaker 1: it will take as many of these we can so can't.
Speaker 1: For the last ten minutes, I am going to turn
Speaker 1: this show over to you and you get us, get
Speaker 1: us on the path. Great. We have Johnny in Salt
Speaker 1: Lake City. Johnny, we're doing great. What's your question? How
Speaker 1: are you doing? Guys? That was a pleasure to be
Speaker 1: on the air. M I kind of wanted to flip
Speaker 1: the scrip a little bit of change the subject a
Speaker 1: little bit. But I'm gonna ask you right now. They're
Speaker 1: in the offseason program workouts. Um, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys had a chance to walk around the weight
Speaker 1: room where they're lifting or anything like that, but have
Speaker 1: you guys noticed a difference in the program that they've
Speaker 1: changed over the last two years, because I noticed, you know,
Speaker 1: we used to have a bunch of it injuries a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and last year it seemed to
Speaker 1: be a pretty good one. Besides, but I wanted to
Speaker 1: know if you guys had to take on if they
Speaker 1: change on everything, or if they changed anything at all.
Speaker 1: I'd got to listen to you guys. Static stretch it
Speaker 1: is a really interesting point. I mean, they had something
Speaker 1: like fifteen hamstring injuries in twenty thirteen, and winning games
Speaker 1: helps that maybe one. I don't really remember any hamstring injuries,
Speaker 1: that quad injuries. Yeah, I think, yeah, it's same same strength, coach,
Speaker 1: same everything. And now we get we get brief glimpses
Speaker 1: of the weight room and stuff, but it's not like
Speaker 1: they're letting us inspect the exercises. Static stretch stuff like that. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. Anthony and Virginia. Anthony were doing great. What's
Speaker 1: your question, hey, guys, I just wanted to get your
Speaker 1: thoughts and Shack Thompson and how he compares to Anthony
Speaker 1: Barr coming out last year. All right, thanks, I think
Speaker 1: that to me, Jack Thompson, different different player, different totally
Speaker 1: different players. More more shasier than yeah Bar, not saying
Speaker 1: is jasier, but more on those lines. If you asked
Speaker 1: me to compare a Bar to somebody, I'd compare him
Speaker 1: to Fowler. If you want to play Fowlers, a stand
Speaker 1: up guy, I would stake Fowlers a better rusher than
Speaker 1: than Barr was at you slay last year. That that
Speaker 1: would be the comparison I used. Yeah, with Shot Thompson,
Speaker 1: you have a very athletic player, versatile, a player that
Speaker 1: I think could be in a consideration a late first
Speaker 1: round if your board gets wiped out, but probably a
Speaker 1: second round player. Yeah, all right. Kip Peyton in Minnesota. Peyton,
Speaker 1: you're on the Draft show. Hey, guys. I know the
Speaker 1: Cowboys like the linebackers a lot, especially Kendricks, but we're
Speaker 1: starting to hear reports about Bernard. Bernard McKinney at the
Speaker 1: Mississippi States. I want to hear, uh, listen to you
Speaker 1: guys see if you think the Cowboys might take them
Speaker 1: or take him. And also, Dane, you haven't ranked ninety
Speaker 1: first on your board, and Bruce you haven't ranked twenty eighth. Yep,
Speaker 1: So I want to know why there's a big discrepancy
Speaker 1: you had. Like, listen to you guys debate about that.
Speaker 1: Thank you? All right? You have twenty eighth? Yeah, I do,
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you. I'll tell you the debates. I
Speaker 1: like the fact that I think that you can use
Speaker 1: him as a defensive end. I think that's that's his
Speaker 1: best place. I think that, you know, I don't like
Speaker 1: him in coverage. I think that I like he's got
Speaker 1: size to him. I like the size. I do. I
Speaker 1: went back and watched him some point of attack stuff.
Speaker 1: I like the physical side of that. I've watched this.
Speaker 1: I watched him play with a big, mic linebacker, and
Speaker 1: it's convinced me that that might be the route to go.
Speaker 1: But I do feel like though, that you could put
Speaker 1: his hand in the dirt and allow him to get
Speaker 1: up the field, and I think that's where he needs
Speaker 1: to go. And I think you know he's right about
Speaker 1: McKinney being in play for for the Cowboys dealing questions.
Speaker 1: I think you look at you look at Jack Thompson,
Speaker 1: Eric Kendricks and been Arderic McKinney. Those are the three
Speaker 1: linebackers you have to have your eye on as possibilities
Speaker 1: for Dallas. But with McKinney, I just don't trust him
Speaker 1: in space. It gets down to that. Well, I didn't.
Speaker 1: It was about the coverage part of it, the coverage
Speaker 1: aspect of it. I wasn't, like I said, I was
Speaker 1: thinking about two down player and then potentially as a rusher.
Speaker 1: Though that I'm saying, the physical line I valued after
Speaker 1: watching in McClain play in this scheme playing as a
Speaker 1: physical mic lineback. So you you play McKinney at Mike
Speaker 1: and have him rush on like in Nickel's situation, he could.
Speaker 1: I think that would be that would be interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you'd have to have a specific plan for him like that,
Speaker 1: I think, and I think they do. I think they do,
Speaker 1: because take him at twenty seven if you've got him
Speaker 1: ranked twenty eighth, I mean we always I mean you
Speaker 1: would take him, Yeah, I would take I would absolutely.
Speaker 1: I would say Where is he among your other linebackers
Speaker 1: you see above Kendricks and yeah, above the see I
Speaker 1: think that to me, Shack would be in my mind
Speaker 1: of the three, would be of the three. He's the
Speaker 1: better of the cover guys. I think Kendricks is the
Speaker 1: better of the run tackle guys. And I think that
Speaker 1: that that McKinney is the physical point of attack guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think him the stefense. They're learning that you can't
Speaker 1: just play with small If you're gonna play small guys
Speaker 1: up front, you better have somebody in the middle that's
Speaker 1: got some size to him. No, I don't think you're wrong.
Speaker 1: And McKinney's gonna go somewhere and probably at mid ear
Speaker 1: the mid second round. Yeah, I mean he's gonna go
Speaker 1: closer to twenty eight than he is the ninety one, right,
Speaker 1: But I'm okay with it because I just don't trust
Speaker 1: him in space, and so that's why he's a big
Speaker 1: knocks as a cover linebacker. You're absolutely right. But I'm
Speaker 1: seeing him has put the hand on the ground, and
Speaker 1: if I was thinking of him like you were, I
Speaker 1: would defensive I would agree. I would totally agree with you.
Speaker 1: And so I think, yeah, if you have a specific
Speaker 1: plan for him, then yeah, he does move up a
Speaker 1: little bit. All right, can't we got more calling him
Speaker 1: in West Virginia. William, you are on the Draft show.
Speaker 1: All right, thanks taking my call. Appreciate it. Um. Well,
Speaker 1: we enjoyed Joe's coverage show. I really liked we all
Speaker 1: did this this year. My thing is I would prefer
Speaker 1: to trade it for a pass rusher. And my question
Speaker 1: is could they trade it for bud Dupree because I
Speaker 1: might like to see him, get him or the kid
Speaker 1: from Uva. Okay, appreciate you guys, keep doing great work.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Thanks so. The thing with me and this,
Speaker 1: I mean you can apply the pass rusher thing to
Speaker 1: the Todd Gurley thing. In my opinion, it's just that,
Speaker 1: all right, where do you have to go to get
Speaker 1: a guy? You know, get the guy that you really
Speaker 1: think is going to make a difference, whether that's bud Dupree,
Speaker 1: whether that's Eli Harold, whether that's Frandy Gregory. I mean,
Speaker 1: how are up do you feel comfortable trading? I think
Speaker 1: I could see bud Dupree going to the Saints at thirteen.
Speaker 1: That's and that's exactly what I could see him off
Speaker 1: the board at eight. That's exactly My point is that
Speaker 1: you're I mean, I think you're talking about having to
Speaker 1: make a pretty considerable trade. We made a small move,
Speaker 1: that guy exactly, a very small move to do that
Speaker 1: the floor for Dupree. I, in my opinions, Houston at sixteen,
Speaker 1: I do not think you'll get past sixteen, okay? And
Speaker 1: is that a trade that you're willing to make going up? Well,
Speaker 1: we told you it was a two to five, yeah,
Speaker 1: because we talked about going to get Girly. And I'm
Speaker 1: just Dupree is a nice player, but he's not. Okay,
Speaker 1: if Bud Dupree got to the point where it was
Speaker 1: twenty one and we had to make the small trade,
Speaker 1: I'm interested in the small trade. Yes, I'm interested in
Speaker 1: the small trade. Do you remember, like three weeks ago
Speaker 1: when he was like big gestures or no gestures at all?
Speaker 1: Like no, no, no, we said that a month ago
Speaker 1: and you said we were crazy. No, No, I'm interested
Speaker 1: in certain players. I don't know I would go but
Speaker 1: I would go huge for Girly. You just said you'd
Speaker 1: go up for Girling only about I would go huge
Speaker 1: to get Girly. I don't know if I would go
Speaker 1: huge to go get bud Dupree. Let me put it
Speaker 1: this way, how huge? How highway? Who do you like?
Speaker 1: I think? But I think you're gonna have to get
Speaker 1: somewhere between. I think he's gonna fall at thirteen. That's
Speaker 1: what I just told you as a prospect. De Marcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence or bud Dupree. De Marcus lords agree and that
Speaker 1: and that's why in this draft, in this draft, to
Speaker 1: Marcus lawds would be a first round player. Easily agree, Easily,
Speaker 1: We can't. Well, he was almost a first round player
Speaker 1: last year. I mean he was two picks away. I
Speaker 1: I and you can never predict what's gonna happen. So
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here saying that's how it's gonna play.
Speaker 1: But in my mind, when I'm thinking about this draft,
Speaker 1: I have almost just written off the possibility of a
Speaker 1: pass rusher in the first round because I don't like
Speaker 1: the value unless you're making a big trade, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't like the like, who's gonna be there at
Speaker 1: twenty seven that you feel good about if bud Dupree
Speaker 1: is still sitting there in the low twenties or I'm
Speaker 1: I know, I'm forgetting somebody I wouldn't trade for Randy Gregory.
Speaker 1: Maybe they would if he's falling. I asked you about that.
Speaker 1: I don't like him. I just I don't trust them,
Speaker 1: and I certainly don't trust the fact that he weighs
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty pounds. Did you trade it for
Speaker 1: if Beasley will be wake on right? Beasley? Probably if
Speaker 1: one of if one of those guys is you know,
Speaker 1: if the Eagles pass on him and he's sitting there
Speaker 1: at twenty one, twenty two, I'm listening, okay, but other
Speaker 1: but I don't think they will. And that's why I
Speaker 1: haven't really thought about it. I can't last call. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Brian in Vegas, Brian, you have the last word before
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft? What you got last? The question I
Speaker 1: have is two quick questions. I'll hear it out quick. Um,
Speaker 1: how do you feel pleaseeel a better player? Uh, Jimmy
Speaker 1: Ward and Marius Randall? And how much would it reach
Speaker 1: of a reach will it be to take to Marius
Speaker 1: Random at twenty seven assuming your wife out at corner?
Speaker 1: And my last question is would you trade your fourth
Speaker 1: round pick in the next year's draft to the Titans
Speaker 1: for I was his name? Mettenburger assuming that, Yeah, they
Speaker 1: take um Mariota from Mariola. Okay, thanks, good question. I
Speaker 1: like we talked about outside the box loving. I like that,
Speaker 1: love it. Jimmy Ward and za Marius Randall, they're very comparable.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's the comparison that, Yeah, two cover guys.
Speaker 1: I like Jimmy Ward a lot better, I mean, and
Speaker 1: I like Randall. Um. I gave him a third round grade.
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna go somewhere the early second, maybe even
Speaker 1: the late first. You never know. I like the player,
Speaker 1: but I just think twenty seven's too early for him.
Speaker 1: And I talked to him last week. He told me
Speaker 1: the team that has shown the most interest in him,
Speaker 1: you were Dallas Cowboys. So something you have to watch
Speaker 1: at sixty gotta be worth for that sixty. Fine. And
Speaker 1: we had this conversation in the office earlier this week.
Speaker 1: Do you you think Randall beats out Wilcox or Church?
Speaker 1: You think he's a starting safety. I think it's certain
Speaker 1: packages when they play single high. Yeah. I think it's
Speaker 1: it's find a way to keep Church down. I want
Speaker 1: to spend my first round pick on a certain packages guy.
Speaker 1: I want to spend my first round. Well, but you're
Speaker 1: really it's really talking about a second round guy again, Well,
Speaker 1: he said twenty seven if you got you got eighteen
Speaker 1: names on your board, first round names you Oh, you're
Speaker 1: saying twenty seven is technically a second round pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's true. Yeah, I don't. I just I
Speaker 1: have never loved I would rather have Duke Johnson Randall
Speaker 1: myself figuring. Yeah, that's why we did what we did
Speaker 1: on the track about the Mettenburger thing. I just I
Speaker 1: don't know that. I still don't know that Tennessee would
Speaker 1: want to get rid of them because you're what, I mean,
Speaker 1: who else do they even have at quarterback? Let me
Speaker 1: tell you. Let me tell you this though last year
Speaker 1: I had an idea of how they had Mettenberger on
Speaker 1: the board. Yeah, they wouldn't do that. They don't like them.
Speaker 1: There's there's lots of mistake because Metburger is gonna beat
Speaker 1: Mary L's you ls you all right, the draft is here.
Speaker 1: Now I'm excited. I want to do another hour to
Speaker 1: be honest, Right, Well, you get to do that. Hey,
Speaker 1: we're gonna come on tomorrow. Can't tell me if I'm right,
Speaker 1: We're gonna be on at six forty five. Right, yeah,
Speaker 1: Coverage starts at six forty five, will be on the
Speaker 1: entire first round YEA, the entire Friday, and the entire Saturday.
Speaker 1: So yes here so you will have the casts of thousands,
Speaker 1: Dame Brugler, a nation of millions cast, Bill Jones, Dane Brugler,
Speaker 1: h David Hellman, Nick, I mean we're gonna have everybody.
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna come through here. We're gonna have the cabbage, Well,
Speaker 1: have war room cam on, We're gonna have analysis picks,
Speaker 1: turn it on. Listen to us, guys, We're watched these players.
Speaker 1: Those guys at the networks and stuff, they haven't watched
Speaker 1: all the players. This group has watched all the players.
Speaker 1: So for my buddies here at my scouts, Dame Burglar,
Speaker 1: David Hellman, can't Garrison, Brian Brous thanks so much for
Speaker 1: joining us in the seventh round mock draft, and we
Speaker 1: will see you tomorrow at six forty five