WEBVTT - Draft Show: Full 7-Round Mock Draft 0:00:01.480 --> 0:00:06.600 He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys your 0:00:06.760 --> 0:00:10.360 war room for insider news and draft analysis from deep 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:13.880 within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at Valley Rand, Dallas 0:00:13.880 --> 0:00:19.800 Cowboys Elect and now your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman, 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:26.520 and Brian brought us Welcome to the Draft Show, Happy 0:00:26.640 --> 0:00:31.200 Draft Eve, to every the Draft. The Draft Show last 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:34.000 one yea until the Draft starts, till the draft starts. 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:37.080 Pretty amazing. Yeah, it's kind of crazy that we've we've 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:42.280 taken this journey with you. Right after the Cowboys caught 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:45.400 the ball, dropped the ball. We started. Then we went 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:48.360 through some Senior Bowl stuff. We really did, didn't we. 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:53.200 We came to you from a combine Indianapolis, and now 0:00:53.200 --> 0:00:56.680 we're working through some workouts we've done, and now we're 0:00:56.760 --> 0:01:01.080 here to where we are a little over twenty four 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:03.560 hours away. My mask's terrible, but I know we've got 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:07.360 a day. We got twenty eight hours, something like thirty 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:09.560 one hours. I'm sorry. So this thing is gonna get 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.319 put to bed by a lot of NFL teams. A 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.080 lot of scouts are looking forward to this. I know 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:17.240 this group right here is looking forward to it. This 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:20.920 group being Dane Brugler from CBS Sports, David Hellman from 0:01:20.959 --> 0:01:25.560 Dallas Cowboys dot Com, and Kent Garrison, our producer for 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:30.160 the Draft show. For all these weeks, it is upon us, 0:01:30.640 --> 0:01:33.640 and we wanted to take the opportunity to do a 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:36.759 seven round mock draft, and the idea of the Draft Show, 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:39.800 as always, it's it's for you. We wanted to educate 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:41.679 the fans. We wanted you to be a part of it. 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.679 You have with tweets and calls and questions, and we 0:01:44.720 --> 0:01:47.039 appreciate every bit of that. But we're gonna try and 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.160 set up what we've always done here, a war room 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:54.080 like setting, and and try and go through some scenarios 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.960 that could either happen yes, no, But we want to 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:00.640 make you think. We want to make you out there think, okay, 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:02.680 well I go up to get a guy, Well I 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:04.920 settle right there? Do I want to wait for a guy? 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:06.760 We're just gonna try and do a bunch of things, 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.840 and that's our idea today. We're gonna get through this 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.080 mock draft and then at the end of it we 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.480 have time, we're gonna take some calls at eight eight eight, eight, 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.240 five five two two ninety seven not so much the 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:19.600 questions I need. We just want to know about the draft. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.040 What you think, you know, as you're listening along to 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:25.040 take notes, have your own ideas of what you want 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:28.880 to do. So, with all that being said, I'm gonna 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:32.280 turn this over to Dane Brugler, and Dane's gonna run 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:36.840 this mock draft for us and Dave and myself and Dane, 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.720 we're gonna have some discussions here and uh and just 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:43.240 go through it. So Dane is the floor is yours? 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.960 Thanks Brian, And you know, mock drafts, it's it's all 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:49.240 about scenarios. It's all about examining how this draft could 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:52.560 play out. And obviously picking twenty seven in the first round, 0:02:53.000 --> 0:02:55.239 you know a lot of things can happen. Let's first, 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:57.600 before we get started, just take a few minutes quick, 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:00.240 pow wow. What we're thinking in this draft? We want 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:01.639 to come away with we want we know we want 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:04.040 a running back. At some point, Adrian Peterson Vikings aren't 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:06.400 playing ball right, so you know we want to come 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.359 away with a running were still point We're still gonna 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.600 make a call though, are we still thinking about even 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:12.720 though that the Minnesota has come out and said that 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.000 we're not gonna make a call. So that's that's yeah. 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:19.720 Are we prepared though, in case Minnesota calls us? I 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:21.960 think you always, you know, you have to be prepared 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:25.640 for that. But you know, I likelihood not, very okay, 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:30.200 very likely. Let's let's focus on the players on the draft. Okay, 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.239 So we're gonna focus on that draft first. If so, 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.640 if we're sitting in our war room Minnesota calls, we're 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:37.720 gonna say, hey, we're just focused on our draft. We'll 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.800 cross that bridge when we come if if it happens, 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.560 you know, but I think, yeah, let's focus on the 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:44.400 players we have on our board. Okay. You know our 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.080 scots has done a lot of work. Well, we'll focus 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.960 on that and take it from there. Okay. Um, we 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.000 have to talk about corner. We know we want to 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:52.640 come away with a corner at some point in this draft. 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:59.320 True defensive line definitely a postackle or an end either one. Yeah. Yeah, 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:02.480 uh quarterback is that a position worth addressing in this draft? 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:05.560 You know, if it, if it happens where it matches up, great, 0:04:05.760 --> 0:04:08.080 you know, maybe that's something we do. But if it doesn't, 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:09.600 I don't. I think we're okay with not coming away 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:11.680 with a quarterback, if that's what happens. Yeah, I agree 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.000 with that. I mean I think that I've I've talked 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.880 about the petty a lot, and if we got to 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:19.479 this point in the draft where Petty is a consideration, 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:21.800 I will go up on the table. But I understand 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:24.640 what we're saying there and the other the last thing 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.560 before we get started trading up trading back. I think, 0:04:27.600 --> 0:04:29.920 you know, we're all worried about that twenty seventh pick 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.760 in our first round options being wiped out, so our 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.040 our phone lines are open. Uh. You know, there's a 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:36.719 chance that we could get a nice deal at twenty 0:04:36.720 --> 0:04:38.800 seven to move back maybe in the second round some 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:41.480 more picks, but that's not something we'll really know until 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:43.560 twenty seven are close to it, So could be a 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.960 little bit of a gamble there. So um, picking up 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:47.920 twenty seven tough to feel great about it. So the 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:50.800 position though we're thinking about we are we are we 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.280 thinking about going up for one particular position? Or do 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.400 you want to go up and get uh? I mean, 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:58.080 is a cornerback going to be the spot? Is a 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:00.680 running back? Are we just full into go? I think 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:02.120 we're willing to go up, but I think we have 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.400 to watch running back in corner? At least for me, 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:07.080 I've I'm willing to go up, but really only for 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:10.000 those two things. Yeah, which one more than one more 0:05:10.040 --> 0:05:12.840 than the other. I'm at top of my list. I'm 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:14.919 willing to go up for Todd Gurley, Okay, but I 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.000 would be willing to go up if you know, if 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.440 a Kevin Johnson or maybe a Marcus Peters is there 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:22.240 and it's not giving, if you're not giving away the house, 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:23.920 I would do it. What's the sweet spot for Gurley? 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.279 If he gets past sixteen? Is that one where we 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.599 consider him? If he gets fast to Chargers at seventeen, 0:05:28.640 --> 0:05:30.400 I think you have to start thinking about it. Yeah, 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.760 I think that if we're sitting there, in my mind, 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.520 I'm kind of thinking that Miami is now a player 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.839 at fourteen, I think that you have to find a 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.400 way to get ahead of San Diego in reality. But 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:42.960 I'm with you on that. See, but we don't have 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:45.320 to dedicate too much time to this. But I think 0:05:45.320 --> 0:05:47.160 if you're talking about getting in front of San Diego, 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.280 then you're talking about spending a lot more than maybe 0:05:49.320 --> 0:05:51.039 I want to. But once, I mean, if he falls 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:54.520 into into that eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one. You know 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.080 you might be able to get away with giving a 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.279 giving up a little bit low. Okay, all right, let's 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:00.680 get this thing started. Um, no surprise or off the 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.919 bat quarterbacks Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariotta one two, So no 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:07.880 surprises there. Uh, moving on down the first round. There 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.000 we go our first running backs off the board at fourteen, 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:12.480 Todd Gurley to the Dolphins. So we don't even need 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.760 to need to have that conversation. Todd Gurley unfortunately will 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:18.280 not be a Dallas cowboy, and it's a bummer, but 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:20.760 it is a guy that we all like, and it 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:24.440 just uh, but that's that's incredibly realistic. That really well 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.120 see that, And that's the and that's the thing about it. 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:27.640 I think we knew in this draft that that was 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.400 where the spot was gonna be for the for Gurley 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:34.040 once the two thumbs up on the medical stuff came out. Miami, 0:06:34.160 --> 0:06:36.200 you know, needing a running back right there. I showed 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:40.200 me the Instagram video yesterday of him sprinting on the treadmill. Yeah. Absolutely, 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:41.840 I starting to think he might be ready for a 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:43.960 week one. Yeah. I think if you if you talk 0:06:44.040 --> 0:06:46.159 about in Miami and you look at their team needs 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:49.359 as well, wide receiver, corner, running back. We're all in 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.479 the mix right there. So that's not a surprise. And 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.280 with Gurley, it's almost like you know, at that point, 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:56.400 how do you pass? Yeah, one of the best talents. 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.680 So absolutely he's in that mid first range. Okay. Um, 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:02.880 A few picks later, Randy Gregory off the board. So 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.839 another player that might have Yeah, I think there's a 0:07:05.920 --> 0:07:08.080 there's a few Cowboys fans that are a little bummed, 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:10.800 but I think most Cowboys fans get that a little happy. 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:12.960 Take that choice out of my hands. Okay, don't even 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:14.440 have to worry about it. Randy Gregory off the board 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:16.400 of fifteen to the forty nine ers. Okay, So the 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.760 forty nine ers take Gregory outboard. Okay. So we were 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.560 worried about that as far as would that guy be 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:24.119 a potential storry were we willing to Maybe we weren't 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.360 thinking about trade nut for Randy was not one of 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:28.480 those guys at all. Right, but if he's at twenty seven, 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.560 then that's something it'd be tough to exactly. It's you 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:33.800 talk about it all the time. It's like, I'm happy 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:35.840 that I don't have to worry about it. Okay, don't 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:38.440 even if Randy Gregory would have got into, say around 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:41.640 twenty one around Cincinnati, would we have thought about that. 0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:43.640 I'm not going up for that guy. Not at all. 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:45.440 I don't think so, not at all. So it does 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.640 it sound like we were going up for talking about 0:07:47.680 --> 0:07:49.560 a guy who has the talent to be top ten 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:52.240 and was widely considered top five when this started, and 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.480 he's slipping to the end of the first round for 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:57.200 reasons that have nothing to do with his ability. Okay, 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:00.000 So I'm not true. I'm not giving up. So we're okay. 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.120 We're okay with Gregory going off there. We thought that 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:05.880 he potentially could have been a top ten guy, absolutely, 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.240 but now he goes to he goes to at like 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:10.640 you said, Sam fra Leisco at fifteen. So we're good 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.840 with that. Okay, it's too bad, but we're not hearpro Okay, great, um, 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:17.000 second back off the board seventeen to San Diego Melvin Gordon. 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.440 So there's another possible trade off. If Melvin Gordon was 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:22.000 in early twenties a player, we talk about maybe moving 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.600 up for Detroit at twenty three. Uh, that could have 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:27.880 been a possibility, but he's top twenty, he's gone. Dave 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.240 told me though he would only have traded up for Gurley. 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.240 I agree with him on that. I don't think if 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:35.559 Gurly gets to twenty seven, I'm okay with that. Gordon, Yeah, 0:08:36.480 --> 0:08:38.760 I'm down to take Gordon at twenty seven. I don't 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:40.520 want to give up picks to get him, though, that's 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:44.760 just me. Okay, Well, we lost two backs, so but board, Yeah, okay, 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:46.840 all right, And I think it's not it's not a shocker. 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.280 I think we expected that. So I think now our 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:51.400 our focus in the first round has to shift the corner, 0:08:51.440 --> 0:08:54.719 which you yes, yeah, we're down to two backs. Yeah, 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:57.000 unless you know you're comfortable with those second round backs. 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.480 But I'm worried now about these corners. I am worried 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:02.240 about that out of twenty seven. Uh okay, Kansas City's 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:04.160 up at eighteen. This is where I think Kevin Johnson 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:05.880 makes a ton of sense, where we could see him 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.319 coming off the board. Um, but we don't want to. 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:09.959 We don't have to give us second round pick to 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:12.120 go and get him if we went up to eighteen. 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:14.280 So that's not something I think we're ready to do. 0:09:14.800 --> 0:09:18.120 Um And never mind, they just took Cameron Irving, so 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:19.959 we don't have to worry about that. Oh wow, they 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.600 took Florida State off versal offensive lineman. So he goes 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:25.840 eighteen to the Chiefs. So we were sweating that pick 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.480 right there. We think Kevin Johnson, that's could be the 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.280 first spot because probably Waynes is gonna be up at 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:34.040 the top of that board. Maybe probably went Minnesota to eleven, 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:37.840 maybe something. Honestly, Houston sixteen is a player or a 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.559 team late I'm hearing Kevin Johnson is a strong possibility. 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:45.679 So sixteen eighteen two, Ok, we're sweating Kevin Johnson. So 0:09:45.720 --> 0:09:48.720 I think that's uh, that's uh so, no, Kevin Johnson 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:52.640 at eighteen. Does eighteen feel really high for Irving to you? Yes? 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:55.560 So no, I think, uh some teams like him, I 0:09:55.559 --> 0:09:57.920 think better than we do. Uh. He kind of gives 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.480 me that Travis Frederick feel that like you know, yeah, 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:02.480 a lot of people are let me, hey, let me 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:04.720 just give you a little inside about Kansas City there 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.640 why the pick was made. They that's a need center 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:09.800 is definitely a need for for the for the chief 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:11.839 I mean, if you get your guy who cares were Yeah, 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.840 they're there. Previous center Rodney Hudson, went to Oakland, right, 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:17.000 Rodney Hudson, a guy they drafted out of Florida States. 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:18.719 So they go back to that Florida state. Well, yeah, 0:10:18.760 --> 0:10:20.880 the kids crush. They got a kid named Cush. It's 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.040 gonna be the starter there. So they're gonna look for it. 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.599 They're gonna look for some competition there. John Dorsey I 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.360 worked with it in Green Bay. He likes those Florida 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:31.120 State type kids. So not a bad call right there. 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.920 On the versatility, a guy that played left tackle played center, 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:38.160 so it gives them options wide receiver, center, and inside linebacker. 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.400 For the Chiefs, the receiver would not be a shock 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.880 of Irvan goes top twenty. Yeah, okay, absolutely, Um nineteen. 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.400 The Browns they go for Shot Perriman wide receiver, need one. Yeah, 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:49.720 next up is pick twenty. Now this is uh, this 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:53.360 is where it gets interesting. This is UH Philadelphia. Kevin Johnson. 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:55.880 We talked about Kevin Johnson Byron Jones. There's a few 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:57.720 other corners that they're in the in the mix. Here 0:10:58.080 --> 0:10:59.880 do we try and move up? See if the Eagles 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:03.440 are willing to do a deal, if we offer, say, 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:07.000 if we offer twenty seven. Yeah, a third and say 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:08.920 a fifth? Do you think that's worth it to go 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.920 up to twenty and uh, you know, see if see 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:13.200 if they might be able to do that. Well, the 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.920 point differential on our charts looking at eight fifty for 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:19.440 the Eagles six eighty for the Cowboys, So you're talking 0:11:19.480 --> 0:11:23.800 about giving up a third. So that's one thirty six. 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:25.720 We got to make up this difference somehow and what 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:29.160 else was there? And a fifth that would be twenty six? 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.240 So points total right there? Is what it's that one 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:35.719 sixty six that's in the range right there? All right? 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.960 So this is what we're talking about here, and correct 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.880 me if I'm wrong. So we're I mean, every cornerback 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:43.800 is in play. You got your pick of the litter 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:48.000 of the cornerbacks right now except for Trey Wayne's TYA. 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:49.760 At this point, Trey Wayne is the only quarterback off 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:51.280 the board. Wayne has never been a guy that we've 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.720 talked about any We know that Philadelphia potentially is going 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.200 to take a cornerback. That's that's the issue. And would 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:59.960 they would they feel comfortable going back with us going up? 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.240 All right? So I think here's this is the crux 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:06.560 of the issue. You're talking about getting an impact top 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:11.120 three starting cornerback at at twenty right, and then you 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.120 know whoever it is, whether it's a running back or 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:14.920 a pass rusher, you want a guy who can play 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:18.680 with sixty. And then you don't pick again until the 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:21.960 seventh round, right, fourth? Fourth round? Fourth, Oh, I'm sorry, 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:24.160 we gave up our fifth. Okay, So then you've got 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.319 one twenty seven and then you don't pick till the seventh, right. 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.400 So so this I mean, you're really talking about two 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:32.880 you gotta hit, Let me have picks, and then hope 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.080 for the best with the rest. Are we comfortable whatever 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.400 corner they leave on the board, That's what I'm saying, 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:41.319 if they leave, if they in fact, if Johnson's in play, 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:44.800 if Peters is in play, and Jones is in play, 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:47.920 are we comfortable? And I'm sweating it, and just go 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:51.800 ahead and taking whatever's Here's the You're sitting there thinking 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.040 there's three guys there and you only got to get 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:56.360 seven more picks until one of them's in your lap. 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:58.640 But when one of them goes off the board, it 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:00.640 makes me wonder, you know, it makes me worry that 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:02.800 the other two go right after that. I do not 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.640 feel great about both those guys lasting to twenty seven. 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:08.240 But if you look at the Eagles, though, Maxwell and 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:10.640 Thurman were added this year, I mean they've added one, 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.040 So I mean, do they do we maybe sweat and say, hey, 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:17.200 they might not take a corner at all. Let's uh, 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.720 let's let's float the offer out there, see what the 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:23.360 Eagles say, and just you know, we'll see what they say. 0:13:23.520 --> 0:13:25.079 A deal like that, I can see if they're willing 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:29.360 to bite. So we'll submit that they have declined, but 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:31.720 we have a counter offer. Okay, they want pick twenty 0:13:31.760 --> 0:13:34.400 seven and sixty to move up to twenty. Hell no, 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:36.760 go away. So the first and second round are to 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:38.280 go out to twenty. Now, that to me, that's a 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:43.040 gross over payment because seven picks, that tells me they 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:45.720 they want they have someone at twenty they want right there. 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.320 They want if they if we'll overpay, okay, maybe they'll 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.600 move back. Yeah, they're they're they're throwing they're throwing chum 0:13:50.600 --> 0:13:52.679 in the water to see how bad we want this pick. 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:55.000 I'm not giving up a first and a second for 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:59.079 anybody not named Adrian Peterson. Okay, so we're in agreement. 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.439 We're declined. That Yeah, we can't, we can't go there. Yeah, 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:08.640 we decline and Eagles take Byron Jones. So okay, so 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:12.880 they're gonna pare. They're gonna pair Jones with Maxwell there. 0:14:13.000 --> 0:14:15.600 So not that that that makes sense, though, I've got 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:18.360 to consider that a massive upset. If Jones is the 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:22.120 second corner taken on that, it would be surprising. Yeah, definitely, 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.280 it's but this guy likes those athletic type. I mean, 0:14:25.280 --> 0:14:27.360 they might think the guy could play safety though too. 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:29.800 It might be another thing that he might be he 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:31.680 might be killing. I'm not saying I'm not saying it's 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:33.840 a bad pick. I just you know, I think Peters 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:37.160 and Johnson are better. Yeah, just me. Yeah, there's no 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:40.080 consensus when it comes to these corners. They're really so 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:41.920 would you say that's a wow pick then, I mean 0:14:42.040 --> 0:14:44.640 we always talk about wow. It's not wow because we've 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:46.320 been saying for a while now we think they'll all 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:48.120 be gone because we would all take Jones if he 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:51.200 was there. Yeah, and always said Jones is kind of 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.520 in my This is all my opinion, obviously, but Jones 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.160 has kind of been like my consolation prizee, Like, well, really, 0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.360 Peters and Johnson are gone. If Jones, IF's the one 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.800 thing we know about Chip Kill, he wants bigger, faster, 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:04.280 and smarter. That's Byron Jones, a high, high character kid. 0:15:04.320 --> 0:15:07.400 So I think that that fit that marriage makes sense 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.480 at twenty for them, But it does mean Johnson still available, 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.760 and so if we look at it, the next team 0:15:12.800 --> 0:15:14.560 I think we have to worry about drafting a corner 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:19.800 is twenty two. Yeah, surely it's the Steelers. So let's 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:22.920 let's talk with Cincinnati at twenty one. Let's see if 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.000 we can possibly do something there. We would vote them 0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:26.760 the same deal we floated Philly. Is that I mean, 0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:28.640 I think we take take away the fifth. What if 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.600 we do just a twenty seven and our third for 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:34.920 picks twenty one? And you know what's that come out to? Um? 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.240 So we got So we're talking about again pick six 0:15:38.400 --> 0:15:41.760 eighty a third round pick would be one thirty six. 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:45.440 So the differential to help me on the map here, 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:50.800 eight hundred for Cincinnati, six eighty for the Cowboys. So 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.840 that's what one twenty right there? Am I right about that? 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:56.800 It's eight hundred for the eight hundred for the Bengals 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.560 pick at twenty one. Yeah, so we're talking about one 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:02.840 twenty we flip them the one thirty six. That's that's 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:07.960 if you it's it's it's it might it might get 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.040 us the Bengals tradition. Let me tell you about my 0:16:10.080 --> 0:16:12.880 history with the Bengals. You have to they're a team 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:16.000 that you don't traditionally call because they don't traditionally not 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:18.720 that they're not big on moving, but you're gonna have 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:21.600 to overpay a little bit to make them maybe want 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:23.960 to get off that spot. Let's let's let's do this. 0:16:24.080 --> 0:16:26.480 Let's see if they'll throw in their sixth rounder one 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:30.800 ninety seven. Oh, so you're asking for something back, so 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.960 we'll we'll do one in three twenty seven and ninety 0:16:33.960 --> 0:16:36.680 one thirteen points difference right there on that. I mean, 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:39.920 that's a that that balances the trade, right, that balances 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:41.920 to trade. They don't like to move? Are they down 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:44.000 to do it? All right? Let's let's ask this dispense 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:46.160 who they want? All right? Let's ask what if they 0:16:46.160 --> 0:16:48.440 would just take the What if we just overpay and 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:50.880 not ask for the flip back? I mean, what if 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.000 we just let's let's I think we try it and 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:54.800 see if you know, we never know if they if 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:56.600 they might do it, okay, okay, okay, And if they 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:58.280 do it, great, if they If they don't, maybe we 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.240 take that away. Okay. I mean, you know who knows 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.520 who Cincinnati wants. Maybe there's someone there they really want, 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:05.280 or maybe they want to move back. Yeah, there's someone 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:07.640 that later they cove it. Yeah, six and as team 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:09.600 needs right there, as we look at them, top three 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:13.600 tight end tackle and a safety would be so could 0:17:13.600 --> 0:17:16.520 you talk about him Max Williams? At that part people 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.160 talked about funches. They might think that they could get 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.959 one of those guys. So Max Williams at twenty seven 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.160 and pick up a pick. I think who they really 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.399 want as an offensive tackle? Yeah? I think that's that 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:29.639 could be Humphrey's repeat. There's so many offensive tackle options. 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.000 I think they feel comfortable getting one the later first round. 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.359 So let's let's float that offer. Can't see what happens. 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:39.080 We have a deal, okay, so we before we you know, 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:42.240 do a done deal. Are we comfortable with moving we're 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:45.320 giving up ninety one now, you know we hate to 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:47.359 give up the top one hundred pick here, yeah, I do, 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.480 but I want to make sure we get the first 0:17:50.520 --> 0:17:53.080 round pick right instead of worrying about the third round pick. 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:54.320 We don't know who's gonna be on the board at 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:56.359 ninety one. Okay, let's worry about make sure where we 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:59.040 get this first round pick, right, Okay, I hate trading 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:02.440 this pick lot less than I hated trading the third 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:04.719 last year, because it was seventy eight last year. You're 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:06.800 talking about a pretty big difference. Right. You don't want 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:08.080 to give up a top one hundred pick, but you 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:10.240 don't feel bad about sending ninety one to somebody you're 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:12.080 nine picks away from one hundred. I mean it's yeah, 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:15.080 it's it's not good, but it's a low cost third round. 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:17.120 We feel good about this player that we won, Kevin 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:18.919 john I mean yeah, we feel he can be a 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:21.959 Day one starter or a guy that instantly helps our 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:25.400