1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys your 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: war room for insider news and draft analysis from deep 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at Valley Rand, Dallas 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: Cowboys Elect and now your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman, 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: and Brian brought us Welcome to the Draft Show, Happy 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: Draft Eve, to every the Draft. The Draft Show last 7 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: one yea until the Draft starts, till the draft starts. 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: Pretty amazing. Yeah, it's kind of crazy that we've we've 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: taken this journey with you. Right after the Cowboys caught 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: the ball, dropped the ball. We started. Then we went 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: through some Senior Bowl stuff. We really did, didn't we. 12 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:53,200 Speaker 1: We came to you from a combine Indianapolis, and now 13 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: we're working through some workouts we've done, and now we're 14 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: here to where we are a little over twenty four 15 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: hours away. My mask's terrible, but I know we've got 16 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: a day. We got twenty eight hours, something like thirty 17 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: one hours. I'm sorry. So this thing is gonna get 18 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: put to bed by a lot of NFL teams. A 19 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: lot of scouts are looking forward to this. I know 20 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: this group right here is looking forward to it. This 21 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: group being Dane Brugler from CBS Sports, David Hellman from 22 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com, and Kent Garrison, our producer for 23 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: the Draft show. For all these weeks, it is upon us, 24 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: and we wanted to take the opportunity to do a 25 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: seven round mock draft, and the idea of the Draft Show, 26 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: as always, it's it's for you. We wanted to educate 27 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: the fans. We wanted you to be a part of it. 28 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: You have with tweets and calls and questions, and we 29 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: appreciate every bit of that. But we're gonna try and 30 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: set up what we've always done here, a war room 31 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: like setting, and and try and go through some scenarios 32 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: that could either happen yes, no, But we want to 33 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: make you think. We want to make you out there think, okay, 34 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: well I go up to get a guy, Well I 35 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 1: settle right there? Do I want to wait for a guy? 36 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: We're just gonna try and do a bunch of things, 37 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: and that's our idea today. We're gonna get through this 38 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:12,080 Speaker 1: mock draft and then at the end of it we 39 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: have time, we're gonna take some calls at eight eight eight, eight, 40 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: five five two two ninety seven not so much the 41 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: questions I need. We just want to know about the draft. 42 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: What you think, you know, as you're listening along to 43 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: take notes, have your own ideas of what you want 44 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: to do. So, with all that being said, I'm gonna 45 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: turn this over to Dane Brugler, and Dane's gonna run 46 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: this mock draft for us and Dave and myself and Dane, 47 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna have some discussions here and uh and just 48 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: go through it. So Dane is the floor is yours? 49 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: Thanks Brian, And you know, mock drafts, it's it's all 50 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: about scenarios. It's all about examining how this draft could 51 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: play out. And obviously picking twenty seven in the first round, 52 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 1: you know a lot of things can happen. Let's first, 53 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: before we get started, just take a few minutes quick, 54 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: pow wow. What we're thinking in this draft? We want 55 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: to come away with we want we know we want 56 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: a running back. At some point, Adrian Peterson Vikings aren't 57 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: playing ball right, so you know we want to come 58 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: away with a running were still point We're still gonna 59 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: make a call though, are we still thinking about even 60 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: though that the Minnesota has come out and said that 61 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: we're not gonna make a call. So that's that's yeah. 62 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: Are we prepared though, in case Minnesota calls us? I 63 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: think you always, you know, you have to be prepared 64 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: for that. But you know, I likelihood not, very okay, 65 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: very likely. Let's let's focus on the players on the draft. Okay, 66 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: So we're gonna focus on that draft first. If so, 67 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: if we're sitting in our war room Minnesota calls, we're 68 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: gonna say, hey, we're just focused on our draft. We'll 69 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: cross that bridge when we come if if it happens, 70 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: you know, but I think, yeah, let's focus on the 71 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: players we have on our board. Okay. You know our 72 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: scots has done a lot of work. Well, we'll focus 73 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: on that and take it from there. Okay. Um, we 74 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: have to talk about corner. We know we want to 75 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: come away with a corner at some point in this draft. 76 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: True defensive line definitely a postackle or an end either one. Yeah. Yeah, 77 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: uh quarterback is that a position worth addressing in this draft? 78 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: You know, if it, if it happens where it matches up, great, 79 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: you know, maybe that's something we do. But if it doesn't, 80 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't. I think we're okay with not coming away 81 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: with a quarterback, if that's what happens. Yeah, I agree 82 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: with that. I mean I think that I've I've talked 83 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: about the petty a lot, and if we got to 84 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: this point in the draft where Petty is a consideration, 85 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: I will go up on the table. But I understand 86 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: what we're saying there and the other the last thing 87 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: before we get started trading up trading back. I think, 88 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: you know, we're all worried about that twenty seventh pick 89 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: in our first round options being wiped out, so our 90 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: our phone lines are open. Uh. You know, there's a 91 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 1: chance that we could get a nice deal at twenty 92 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: seven to move back maybe in the second round some 93 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: more picks, but that's not something we'll really know until 94 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: twenty seven are close to it, So could be a 95 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: little bit of a gamble there. So um, picking up 96 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: twenty seven tough to feel great about it. So the 97 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: position though we're thinking about we are we are we 98 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: thinking about going up for one particular position? Or do 99 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: you want to go up and get uh? I mean, 100 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: is a cornerback going to be the spot? Is a 101 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: running back? Are we just full into go? I think 102 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: we're willing to go up, but I think we have 103 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: to watch running back in corner? At least for me, 104 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: I've I'm willing to go up, but really only for 105 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: those two things. Yeah, which one more than one more 106 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: than the other. I'm at top of my list. I'm 107 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: willing to go up for Todd Gurley, Okay, but I 108 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: would be willing to go up if you know, if 109 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: a Kevin Johnson or maybe a Marcus Peters is there 110 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: and it's not giving, if you're not giving away the house, 111 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: I would do it. What's the sweet spot for Gurley? 112 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: If he gets past sixteen? Is that one where we 113 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: consider him? If he gets fast to Chargers at seventeen, 114 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: I think you have to start thinking about it. Yeah, 115 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: I think that if we're sitting there, in my mind, 116 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm kind of thinking that Miami is now a player 117 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: at fourteen, I think that you have to find a 118 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: way to get ahead of San Diego in reality. But 119 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. See, but we don't have 120 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: to dedicate too much time to this. But I think 121 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: if you're talking about getting in front of San Diego, 122 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: then you're talking about spending a lot more than maybe 123 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: I want to. But once, I mean, if he falls 124 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: into into that eighteen, nineteen, twenty twenty one. You know 125 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: you might be able to get away with giving a 126 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: giving up a little bit low. Okay, all right, let's 127 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: get this thing started. Um, no surprise or off the 128 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: bat quarterbacks Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariotta one two, So no 129 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: surprises there. Uh, moving on down the first round. There 130 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: we go our first running backs off the board at fourteen, 131 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley to the Dolphins. So we don't even need 132 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: to need to have that conversation. Todd Gurley unfortunately will 133 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: not be a Dallas cowboy, and it's a bummer, but 134 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: it is a guy that we all like, and it 135 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: just uh, but that's that's incredibly realistic. That really well 136 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: see that, And that's the and that's the thing about it. 137 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: I think we knew in this draft that that was 138 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: where the spot was gonna be for the for Gurley 139 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: once the two thumbs up on the medical stuff came out. Miami, 140 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: you know, needing a running back right there. I showed 141 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: me the Instagram video yesterday of him sprinting on the treadmill. Yeah. Absolutely, 142 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: I starting to think he might be ready for a 143 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: week one. Yeah. I think if you if you talk 144 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: about in Miami and you look at their team needs 145 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: as well, wide receiver, corner, running back. We're all in 146 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,479 Speaker 1: the mix right there. So that's not a surprise. And 147 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: with Gurley, it's almost like you know, at that point, 148 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: how do you pass? Yeah, one of the best talents. 149 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: So absolutely he's in that mid first range. Okay. Um, 150 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: A few picks later, Randy Gregory off the board. So 151 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: another player that might have Yeah, I think there's a 152 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: there's a few Cowboys fans that are a little bummed, 153 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: but I think most Cowboys fans get that a little happy. 154 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: Take that choice out of my hands. Okay, don't even 155 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: have to worry about it. Randy Gregory off the board 156 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: of fifteen to the forty nine ers. Okay, So the 157 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: forty nine ers take Gregory outboard. Okay. So we were 158 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: worried about that as far as would that guy be 159 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,119 Speaker 1: a potential storry were we willing to Maybe we weren't 160 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: thinking about trade nut for Randy was not one of 161 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: those guys at all. Right, but if he's at twenty seven, 162 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: then that's something it'd be tough to exactly. It's you 163 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: talk about it all the time. It's like, I'm happy 164 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: that I don't have to worry about it. Okay, don't 165 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: even if Randy Gregory would have got into, say around 166 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: twenty one around Cincinnati, would we have thought about that. 167 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: I'm not going up for that guy. Not at all. 168 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: I don't think so, not at all. So it does 169 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: it sound like we were going up for talking about 170 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: a guy who has the talent to be top ten 171 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: and was widely considered top five when this started, and 172 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: he's slipping to the end of the first round for 173 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: reasons that have nothing to do with his ability. Okay, 174 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: So I'm not true. I'm not giving up. So we're okay. 175 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: We're okay with Gregory going off there. We thought that 176 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: he potentially could have been a top ten guy, absolutely, 177 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: but now he goes to he goes to at like 178 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: you said, Sam fra Leisco at fifteen. So we're good 179 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: with that. Okay, it's too bad, but we're not hearpro Okay, great, um, 180 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: second back off the board seventeen to San Diego Melvin Gordon. 181 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: So there's another possible trade off. If Melvin Gordon was 182 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: in early twenties a player, we talk about maybe moving 183 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: up for Detroit at twenty three. Uh, that could have 184 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: been a possibility, but he's top twenty, he's gone. Dave 185 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: told me though he would only have traded up for Gurley. 186 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: I agree with him on that. I don't think if 187 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 1: Gurly gets to twenty seven, I'm okay with that. Gordon, Yeah, 188 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: I'm down to take Gordon at twenty seven. I don't 189 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: want to give up picks to get him, though, that's 190 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: just me. Okay, Well, we lost two backs, so but board, Yeah, okay, 191 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: all right, And I think it's not it's not a shocker. 192 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: I think we expected that. So I think now our 193 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: our focus in the first round has to shift the corner, 194 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: which you yes, yeah, we're down to two backs. Yeah, 195 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: unless you know you're comfortable with those second round backs. 196 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: But I'm worried now about these corners. I am worried 197 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: about that out of twenty seven. Uh okay, Kansas City's 198 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: up at eighteen. This is where I think Kevin Johnson 199 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: makes a ton of sense, where we could see him 200 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: coming off the board. Um, but we don't want to. 201 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: We don't have to give us second round pick to 202 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: go and get him if we went up to eighteen. 203 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: So that's not something I think we're ready to do. 204 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: Um And never mind, they just took Cameron Irving, so 205 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about that. Oh wow, they 206 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: took Florida State off versal offensive lineman. So he goes 207 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: eighteen to the Chiefs. So we were sweating that pick 208 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: right there. We think Kevin Johnson, that's could be the 209 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: first spot because probably Waynes is gonna be up at 210 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: the top of that board. Maybe probably went Minnesota to eleven, 211 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: maybe something. Honestly, Houston sixteen is a player or a 212 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: team late I'm hearing Kevin Johnson is a strong possibility. 213 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: So sixteen eighteen two, Ok, we're sweating Kevin Johnson. So 214 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 1: I think that's uh, that's uh so, no, Kevin Johnson 215 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: at eighteen. Does eighteen feel really high for Irving to you? Yes? 216 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: So no, I think, uh some teams like him, I 217 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: think better than we do. Uh. He kind of gives 218 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: me that Travis Frederick feel that like you know, yeah, 219 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,480 Speaker 1: a lot of people are let me, hey, let me 220 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: just give you a little inside about Kansas City there 221 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: why the pick was made. They that's a need center 222 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: is definitely a need for for the for the chief 223 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,839 Speaker 1: I mean, if you get your guy who cares were Yeah, 224 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: they're there. Previous center Rodney Hudson, went to Oakland, right, 225 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson, a guy they drafted out of Florida States. 226 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 1: So they go back to that Florida state. Well, yeah, 227 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: the kids crush. They got a kid named Cush. It's 228 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: gonna be the starter there. So they're gonna look for it. 229 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,599 Speaker 1: They're gonna look for some competition there. John Dorsey I 230 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: worked with it in Green Bay. He likes those Florida 231 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: State type kids. So not a bad call right there. 232 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: On the versatility, a guy that played left tackle played center, 233 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: so it gives them options wide receiver, center, and inside linebacker. 234 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: For the Chiefs, the receiver would not be a shock 235 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: of Irvan goes top twenty. Yeah, okay, absolutely, Um nineteen. 236 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: The Browns they go for Shot Perriman wide receiver, need one. Yeah, 237 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: next up is pick twenty. Now this is uh, this 238 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: is where it gets interesting. This is UH Philadelphia. Kevin Johnson. 239 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: We talked about Kevin Johnson Byron Jones. There's a few 240 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: other corners that they're in the in the mix. Here 241 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: do we try and move up? See if the Eagles 242 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: are willing to do a deal, if we offer, say, 243 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: if we offer twenty seven. Yeah, a third and say 244 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: a fifth? Do you think that's worth it to go 245 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: up to twenty and uh, you know, see if see 246 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: if they might be able to do that. Well, the 247 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: point differential on our charts looking at eight fifty for 248 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: the Eagles six eighty for the Cowboys, So you're talking 249 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: about giving up a third. So that's one thirty six. 250 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: We got to make up this difference somehow and what 251 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: else was there? And a fifth that would be twenty six? 252 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: So points total right there? Is what it's that one 253 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 1: sixty six that's in the range right there? All right? 254 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: So this is what we're talking about here, and correct 255 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. So we're I mean, every cornerback 256 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: is in play. You got your pick of the litter 257 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: of the cornerbacks right now except for Trey Wayne's TYA. 258 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: At this point, Trey Wayne is the only quarterback off 259 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: the board. Wayne has never been a guy that we've 260 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 1: talked about any We know that Philadelphia potentially is going 261 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: to take a cornerback. That's that's the issue. And would 262 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: they would they feel comfortable going back with us going up? 263 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: All right? So I think here's this is the crux 264 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: of the issue. You're talking about getting an impact top 265 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: three starting cornerback at at twenty right, and then you 266 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: know whoever it is, whether it's a running back or 267 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: a pass rusher, you want a guy who can play 268 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: with sixty. And then you don't pick again until the 269 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: seventh round, right, fourth? Fourth round? Fourth, Oh, I'm sorry, 270 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: we gave up our fifth. Okay, So then you've got 271 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: one twenty seven and then you don't pick till the seventh, right. 272 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: So so this I mean, you're really talking about two 273 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: you gotta hit, Let me have picks, and then hope 274 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: for the best with the rest. Are we comfortable whatever 275 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: corner they leave on the board, That's what I'm saying, 276 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: if they leave, if they in fact, if Johnson's in play, 277 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: if Peters is in play, and Jones is in play, 278 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: are we comfortable? And I'm sweating it, and just go 279 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: ahead and taking whatever's Here's the You're sitting there thinking 280 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: there's three guys there and you only got to get 281 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: seven more picks until one of them's in your lap. 282 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: But when one of them goes off the board, it 283 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: makes me wonder, you know, it makes me worry that 284 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: the other two go right after that. I do not 285 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: feel great about both those guys lasting to twenty seven. 286 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: But if you look at the Eagles, though, Maxwell and 287 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: Thurman were added this year, I mean they've added one, 288 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: So I mean, do they do we maybe sweat and say, hey, 289 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: they might not take a corner at all. Let's uh, 290 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: let's let's float the offer out there, see what the 291 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: Eagles say, and just you know, we'll see what they say. 292 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: A deal like that, I can see if they're willing 293 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: to bite. So we'll submit that they have declined, but 294 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: we have a counter offer. Okay, they want pick twenty 295 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: seven and sixty to move up to twenty. Hell no, 296 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: go away. So the first and second round are to 297 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: go out to twenty. Now, that to me, that's a 298 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: gross over payment because seven picks, that tells me they 299 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: they want they have someone at twenty they want right there. 300 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 1: They want if they if we'll overpay, okay, maybe they'll 301 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: move back. Yeah, they're they're they're throwing they're throwing chum 302 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: in the water to see how bad we want this pick. 303 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm not giving up a first and a second for 304 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: anybody not named Adrian Peterson. Okay, so we're in agreement. 305 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: We're declined. That Yeah, we can't, we can't go there. Yeah, 306 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: we decline and Eagles take Byron Jones. So okay, so 307 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna pare. They're gonna pair Jones with Maxwell there. 308 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: So not that that that makes sense, though, I've got 309 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: to consider that a massive upset. If Jones is the 310 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: second corner taken on that, it would be surprising. Yeah, definitely, 311 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: it's but this guy likes those athletic type. I mean, 312 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: they might think the guy could play safety though too. 313 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: It might be another thing that he might be he 314 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: might be killing. I'm not saying I'm not saying it's 315 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: a bad pick. I just you know, I think Peters 316 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: and Johnson are better. Yeah, just me. Yeah, there's no 317 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: consensus when it comes to these corners. They're really so 318 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: would you say that's a wow pick then, I mean 319 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: we always talk about wow. It's not wow because we've 320 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: been saying for a while now we think they'll all 321 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: be gone because we would all take Jones if he 322 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: was there. Yeah, and always said Jones is kind of 323 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: in my This is all my opinion, obviously, but Jones 324 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: has kind of been like my consolation prizee, Like, well, really, 325 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: Peters and Johnson are gone. If Jones, IF's the one 326 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: thing we know about Chip Kill, he wants bigger, faster, 327 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: and smarter. That's Byron Jones, a high, high character kid. 328 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: So I think that that fit that marriage makes sense 329 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: at twenty for them, But it does mean Johnson still available, 330 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: and so if we look at it, the next team 331 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: I think we have to worry about drafting a corner 332 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: is twenty two. Yeah, surely it's the Steelers. So let's 333 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: let's talk with Cincinnati at twenty one. Let's see if 334 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: we can possibly do something there. We would vote them 335 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: the same deal we floated Philly. Is that I mean, 336 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: I think we take take away the fifth. What if 337 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 1: we do just a twenty seven and our third for 338 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: picks twenty one? And you know what's that come out to? Um? 339 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: So we got So we're talking about again pick six 340 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: eighty a third round pick would be one thirty six. 341 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: So the differential to help me on the map here, 342 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: eight hundred for Cincinnati, six eighty for the Cowboys. So 343 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: that's what one twenty right there? Am I right about that? 344 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: It's eight hundred for the eight hundred for the Bengals 345 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: pick at twenty one. Yeah, so we're talking about one 346 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: twenty we flip them the one thirty six. That's that's 347 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: if you it's it's it's it might it might get 348 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: us the Bengals tradition. Let me tell you about my 349 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: history with the Bengals. You have to they're a team 350 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: that you don't traditionally call because they don't traditionally not 351 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: that they're not big on moving, but you're gonna have 352 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: to overpay a little bit to make them maybe want 353 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: to get off that spot. Let's let's let's do this. 354 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: Let's see if they'll throw in their sixth rounder one 355 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: ninety seven. Oh, so you're asking for something back, so 356 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: we'll we'll do one in three twenty seven and ninety 357 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: one thirteen points difference right there on that. I mean, 358 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: that's a that that balances the trade, right, that balances 359 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: to trade. They don't like to move? Are they down 360 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: to do it? All right? Let's let's ask this dispense 361 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: who they want? All right? Let's ask what if they 362 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: would just take the What if we just overpay and 363 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: not ask for the flip back? I mean, what if 364 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: we just let's let's I think we try it and 365 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: see if you know, we never know if they if 366 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: they might do it, okay, okay, okay, And if they 367 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: do it, great, if they If they don't, maybe we 368 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: take that away. Okay. I mean, you know who knows 369 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: who Cincinnati wants. Maybe there's someone there they really want, 370 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: or maybe they want to move back. Yeah, there's someone 371 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: that later they cove it. Yeah, six and as team 372 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: needs right there, as we look at them, top three 373 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: tight end tackle and a safety would be so could 374 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: you talk about him Max Williams? At that part people 375 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: talked about funches. They might think that they could get 376 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 1: one of those guys. So Max Williams at twenty seven 377 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: and pick up a pick. I think who they really 378 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: want as an offensive tackle? Yeah? I think that's that 379 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: could be Humphrey's repeat. There's so many offensive tackle options. 380 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: I think they feel comfortable getting one the later first round. 381 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: So let's let's float that offer. Can't see what happens. 382 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: We have a deal, okay, so we before we you know, 383 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: do a done deal. Are we comfortable with moving we're 384 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: giving up ninety one now, you know we hate to 385 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: give up the top one hundred pick here, yeah, I do, 386 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: but I want to make sure we get the first 387 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: round pick right instead of worrying about the third round pick. 388 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: We don't know who's gonna be on the board at 389 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: ninety one. Okay, let's worry about make sure where we 390 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: get this first round pick, right, Okay, I hate trading 391 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 1: this pick lot less than I hated trading the third 392 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,719 Speaker 1: last year, because it was seventy eight last year. You're 393 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: talking about a pretty big difference. Right. You don't want 394 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: to give up a top one hundred pick, but you 395 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: don't feel bad about sending ninety one to somebody you're 396 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: nine picks away from one hundred. I mean it's yeah, 397 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: it's it's not good, but it's a low cost third round. 398 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 1: We feel good about this player that we won, Kevin 399 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: john I mean yeah, we feel he can be a 400 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,959 Speaker 1: Day one starter or a guy that instantly helps our 401 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: cornerback depth, a player that is a is a big 402 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: upgrade for our defense. So I think that's that. No. 403 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: One we get Kevin Johnson makes this all work. Let's 404 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: go get him. Kevin Johnson is so all right, So 405 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: deal is done. We go up. We got Kevin Johnson. Oh, 406 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson's Calvin Johnson to Dallas. I picked twenty one, 407 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: pick twenty went on and then we lost the third 408 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: round pick and then one and we can pick it 409 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: back and we get back to nine seven. So okay, 410 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 1: so we've got We've got the the arguably the second 411 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: best I mean, depending on who you arguably one of 412 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: the top two quarterbacks draft. Yeah, our running backs were 413 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: wiped out. We didn't have a running back to get. 414 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: We went ahead and went and got a cornerback who 415 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: we think is just as good as potentially as Trey Wayne. 416 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: And now your last five first round picks or either 417 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: offensive lineman or cornerbacks. Yeah, I mean, just a tidbit, 418 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: and not that I want to admit this, but part 419 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: of moving up for Kevin Johnson. Part of it is 420 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: that we like the player so much, right, But also 421 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: part of it is I think we're terrified about twenty 422 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: seven and who might be there, who might be left 423 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: for us? Yeah, you know, just picking from the scraps 424 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: and well worrying about a deal. You know, moving back 425 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: it's not going to be an option, and so you know, 426 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: moving up to twenty one eliminates that we get a 427 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: good player. We have to sacrifice ninety one. But I 428 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: feel good about the player and moving up for our sake, 429 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: for our sake, Peters is on the board right yes, 430 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: for their sake, he might not be. It's a great point. 431 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: And that's where Armock draft is talking about Peters is there. 432 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: People are probably saying, right now, we'll wait for Peters. 433 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: He might not be on their board for them. So 434 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: that's what that's what you have to weigh right there. 435 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: Do you get that corner at that particular time, the 436 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: second best corner in the draft, and that applies, that 437 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: applies to so many other people. I mean, there's a 438 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: much longer list of guys that we'd probably be willing 439 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,200 Speaker 1: to take the name. And I don't feel great about 440 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,239 Speaker 1: Peter's even making it the twenty seven. Yeah, that's good. 441 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 1: Steelers twenty two, Baltimore twenty six. Yeah. I mean you could. 442 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: I mean and I mean, okay, we just took Kevin 443 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: Johnson off the board. The Steelers could take Peters and 444 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: with the next pick, you know, it can be that 445 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: you can go from having that happened. They chase here 446 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: last year a favorite. They got all their their top 447 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: three or four targets before Zach Martin. Last year all 448 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: went like okay, we get to sixty now, Well just 449 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: a quick thing, uh, the Bengals, so to see who 450 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: they took a twenty seven I'm sorry, they took et 451 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: Cedric Kaboohee at twenty seven, So they got they traded back, 452 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: got the guy they wanted and a player that might 453 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: have been in consideration for US if at twenty seven. Wo. Yeah, 454 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: it's it'll be interesting to watch a boohe's career just 455 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 1: knowing that could have been our pick at twenty seven. Yeah, 456 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: boohe kind of fixing that mold with with Clemmings, with Flowers. 457 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: Jerry Jones talked about it yesterday offensive tackle. Don't be surprised, 458 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: you know he floated that idea for you yesterday. So 459 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: a Buoye, Clemmings, all those guys could have been in 460 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: play there at twenty seven. This is a team, I mean, 461 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: I obviously you have a lot of needs on defense 462 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 1: and things like that, but with Free and Tyre and yeah, 463 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: they could afford to take him more than other teams 464 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: could too, because you want your first round pick to 465 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: play right. But you know, a buoy could sit here 466 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: absolutely and recover and be your swing tackle after you know, 467 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: you could put him on the pup and have him 468 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: be your third tackle. One quick other note about the 469 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: first round, Shane Ray. He was available at twenty seven, 470 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: so that that that's a conversation we would have had 471 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: to have. Yeah, he went off the board with thirty 472 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: two of the Patriots, so it won't be a discussion 473 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: for us in the second round. Okay, so we have 474 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: a first cornerback. I'm way happier giving up ninety one 475 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: to get a corner that we all feel great about 476 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: as opposed to trying to talk myself into four or 477 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: five different avenues at twenty seven. Yeah it's Gregory Ray. Yeah, 478 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: kind of like yeah, yeah, but I don't know what 479 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,239 Speaker 1: I want to do. As opposed to Kevin Johnson. I'm like, okay, yes, 480 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: I'm with you, got it? Go ahead, all right? First 481 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: round cornerback we have, We feel great about it. Now. 482 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 1: Second round, I think we're looking offense now or yeah, 483 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: you know, running backs an option at sixty. I think 484 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: I think this is the sweet spot. We've talked about 485 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: this all along. This is where a running back needs 486 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: to be taken, and and and depending on who's that 487 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: on that board. You know, we've talked about guys. We've 488 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: talked about Duke Johnson, We've talked about Yelding. We've talked 489 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: about a gaya. We've talked about these guys. I think 490 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: sixties where we need to think about grabbing a running 491 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: back myself. And uh okay, second rounds getting started. Just 492 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: looking at it. Uh TJ yelled in to Jacksonville. Thirty six. Okay, 493 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of curveball people that whoa so 494 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: TJ yelled in. The third running back drafted there at 495 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: thirty six, damn one, Dave Calwell doing some stuff down there. 496 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: A player we've been talking about, Damarius Randall off the 497 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: board of the Giants. So second round guy. We we 498 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: didn't mention him in the first round, but you know, 499 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: somewhere in those top forty picks, good chance he comes 500 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 1: off the board, he goes to the Giants. So that's 501 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: two defensive backs we don't we didn't really want to 502 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: see in this division. But yeah, Byron Byron Jones and 503 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: the Baron's Randall. But you know, it is what it is. 504 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: There Now we're about twenty picks into the second round. 505 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: All the backs are available except Girly Gordon and yelled 506 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 1: and do we think about moving up here? We feel 507 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 1: good about sitting at sixty. Wait, see who falls to us? Where? What? 508 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: What pick number are we on? Right now? We are 509 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: we're about twenty picks in, so say we're around fifty. Yeah, 510 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: so a movie ten. I'm sitting. I'm sitting. I'm sitting 511 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: because I've named a bunch of guys. I'm sorry I 512 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: lost Yeldon. That would have been one of my considerations. 513 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: But now I'm kind of thinking Duke Johnson A g 514 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 1: I A. I'm thinking, yeah, exact. Yeah. I feel we're 515 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: gonna lose Coleman and we're twenty. I have a feeling 516 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna lose that somebody, somebody we like will be there. Though. Okay, 517 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,479 Speaker 1: just as you say that, let's rock Coleman fifty four 518 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: to Detroit. Yeah, so he's gone. Sorry, Brian, Okay, well 519 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: that that takes my guy out of play. He's not 520 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: a cowboy, Brian, Okay, you feel about that. I'm you 521 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: know what, I've still got a draft here. I can't cry. 522 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: I'll cry after the draft, is what I'll do. But Okay, 523 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: that means that means, that means that Duke john And 524 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: still still on the boarder. Right and here we are, 525 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: we're at fifty nine, we're at sixty okay, Duke Johnson 526 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: a mere Abdula Jagie and just a quickly, you know, 527 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: we talked about running backs. Just some other guys. We've 528 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: talked about. Devin Smith, the wide receiver from the House 529 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: State off the board, Daniel Hunter, he went to Carolina 530 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: a few picks before we did want Yes, so Danell 531 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: Hunters off the board. R Eli Harold, he just went. 532 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: Trey Flowers is available, Paul Dawson's available. But I think 533 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: we feel good about running back here, like we've just 534 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: been talking about, just for argument's sake, just because I'm 535 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: sure there are people listening thinking about this. Um some 536 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: more pass rusher? I mean, is there DIGGI zooa still 537 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: a possibility? He has gone? He went gone Saints earlier 538 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 1: in the second round. What about um, how is there 539 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: anybody else we're forgetting Mario Edwards? Maybe? Uh, Mario Edwards 540 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: went earlier. All right, I'm the falcon. This makes it 541 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: easy because that's I mean, if you're not taking a 542 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: running back here, then you would prefer it to be 543 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: a pass rusher, right right, They're all gone and it's 544 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: really not even a conversation. But you're talking about me, 545 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: and I think We've all talked about Frank Clark. Yeah, 546 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: I kind of got a Frank, but I gotta I've 547 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,719 Speaker 1: lost my third round pick. This started exactly, this started 548 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: at at fifth round. And now you're talking about taking 549 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: him at sixty. No, no, no, I'm talking about defensive. 550 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: I mean, okay, would you take him at sixty? I'm 551 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 1: talking about taking it. I would rather have Frank Clark 552 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: than make than Odigi and those guys. That's what i'm 553 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: you would take Frank Clark at sixty? Though on my 554 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,360 Speaker 1: board I have him in the third round. Would would 555 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: you take him at sixty? You know what I would? Okay, 556 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: I would, I would, But I'll tell you what it 557 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: was your chest. No, No, because I'm thinking exactly because 558 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: I want Duke Johnson Moore. Okay, should I say that 559 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: I want Duke Johnson at sixty? Okay, Jagi, he's still 560 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: on the board. Now. We talked about me the bone 561 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: on bone. No, this is a great Okay, I'm just 562 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: all right. You're you're the draft master. I didn't mean 563 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: to interrupt. Go ahead, No, I would you say it? 564 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: He's a top forty player. Here's the thing it is, 565 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: But our doctors are scared we could take these reports 566 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 1: are not not favorable. Yeah, I would. You could ignore 567 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: running back here if you hadn't given up that third. 568 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: I would feel fine taking a GI at ninety one. 569 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 1: To be totally honest, I last that long. I think 570 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: that that's an option i'd still take. Well it's not now, though, 571 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: I would take Clark at ninety one over a GI myself. Yeah, 572 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: he's he's gonna be a super If they draft this kid, 573 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 1: you were actually gonna hug him, I might. Yeah, all right, 574 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: let's go on, we get it all right, Well, it's 575 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: all right, we're on the clock. Yeah, pick sixty. We're 576 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: out of time. No, we wrote Duke Johnson down before 577 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: we started this conversation. Black will to turn it in 578 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: were Johnson? All ye, Duke Johnson six, We got Johnson. 579 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: I feel Johnson and Johnson first two vergo. I feel 580 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: john Jets would be happy with that, both acc players. Yeah, 581 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: I feel freaking fantastic if that's what happens on Thursday 582 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: and Friday. Okay, Now, the problem is we're gonna be 583 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: sitting here at ninety one without a pick. You're done. Yeah. 584 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: The rest of the second day is kind of boring 585 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: for us. Well, it can't be any more boring than 586 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: when they were done picking fifteen minutes into the round 587 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: on Friday last year. Yeah, I'm with you on let's 588 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: do it quick before we get to the third day 589 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,880 Speaker 1: pick ninety one that we had Cincinnati Bengals, they owned 590 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: that pick. Yeah, going forward, they picked Senquez Golson the 591 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: corner out of oldness in size corp A not a 592 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: bad player, didn't beat LSU though they be looking at it. 593 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: Cedric abouohe and Senquez Golson or Kevin Johnson, that's what 594 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: the deal comes out, well plus the sixth rounder. Yeah, 595 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: I feel I feel good about Johnson. I do too. 596 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: Kevin Johnson is at worst the third corner on this 597 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: step chart right away, worst maybe better. And Duke Johnson 598 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 1: is at worst the number two running back on this 599 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: roster right away, I think, Yeah, I'm with you. I'm man. Okay, 600 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,199 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. We're gonna be right back 601 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: from the SWBC mortgage is. We're gonna get into this 602 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: fourth round. We might trying to figure out a way. 603 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: We're out of the third so let's try and figure 604 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: out a way to do some good here in the 605 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: fourth round. 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Equal housing lender is the Dallas Cowboys 643 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 1: dot Com Draft show Swboys on the Clock. Back here 644 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: at the Draft Show. It's our seven round mock draft. 645 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: Dame Brugler, David Hellman, Ken Garrison joining you here from 646 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: the s WBC Mortgage Studios. We have so far. We've 647 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: made a deal to trade up to get Kevin Johnson, 648 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: the very talented cornerback from wake Force. We're happy about that. 649 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: Brian brought us, just did cart wheels down the hallway 650 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: with Duke Johnson. Felt good about that. I think a 651 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 1: GYE would have been a consideration. Gie. It's it's the 652 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: bone on bone stuff and it's hard, and I hope 653 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: he has a heck of a career. It's so productive. 654 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: But once again, who we Bouhe went to Cincinnati at 655 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: twenty seven and then they also took sent in quiz 656 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: goals this corner. So yeah, the guy that we really 657 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: didn't like there. Yeah, we didn't like that spot. So 658 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: I think that tells the corner might have been wiped 659 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: out at that point. Yeah, so that that looks like 660 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: to me a very good deal. Okay, we sat out 661 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: the third round. We're now back into the fourth round. 662 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: Eight three is about to start and we have five picks. Okay, 663 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: we have fourth, the fifth six that we picked up 664 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: in that trade the Bengals, right, and then two seven. Okay, 665 00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: so let's go see if we can do some good 666 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: Dane right with fourth round getting started, Um, let's point 667 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: out some players still available. Frank Clark, he is still 668 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 1: on the board. He did not go the third Calm down. 669 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks, the linebacker round of Texas grey Flowers slipped 670 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: to the third round somehow like him. Never mind, he 671 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: just went off the board. So he's gone. Um, so 672 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: we're picking. Let's see what pick are we in the fourth? 673 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: We are one seven, so that's twenty eighth pick in 674 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: the first or in the fourth. Let's move along here 675 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: in the fourth and all right, wait a minute, do 676 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: we need to think about doing something here? I'm getting 677 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: a little worried now about start losing some guys, do 678 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: we Let let's talk about trading off for Clark, because 679 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: here we are. Let's look at this. You know, we're 680 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 1: up in the middle of the fourth round. He's still available. 681 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: Let's look up. So if we trade all right, that's 682 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: six that we got from the Bengals. What if we 683 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 1: package that with our fourth one? Uh seven? All right, 684 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: to go up? Say, let's look at what Kansas City 685 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,120 Speaker 1: at one eighteen. Okay, so we're trying to get to 686 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: Kansas City at one eighteen days spots. Help me on 687 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: the math here at Kansas City at eighteen we're talking 688 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: fourth round, right, fifty eight points? Fifty eight points, our 689 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: pick is worth forty five. That's thirteen points. I can 690 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: do bath bathic aristhmetic they I just did that, but 691 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: not in English. No, So at thirteen point to we're 692 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: trying and offer. You said we had that sixth since 693 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: from Cincinnati one ninety seven, one ninety seven. That gets 694 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: it done on the spot right there, it's thirteen points. 695 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's is that perfect? So you're gonna go 696 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: grab your gun runner, all right? So this is the 697 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: criminal round. I don't want to wait. This is the 698 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: criminal round. I'm getting a little you know what. And 699 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: I said this on the Draft show before we all 700 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: talk about this. I'm a little aggressive when it comes 701 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: to you. Are you are aggress If I've been in 702 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: Dane just want to sit in the cut? Well, you 703 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: guys like picks. I understand that. But if I could 704 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: just flip a sixth round pick, did I obtained in 705 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: a trade to go and get a guy as money? Yeah? 706 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: You know what? I will say not I don't. I 707 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: hate giving away top one hundred picks. But when you're 708 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: talking like, I mean, what are the odds? One are 709 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: the odds that you're really hitting with your sixth round pick? 710 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: I mean, who? Who the god Brady at one nine nine? 711 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: Who the last two? They didn't have a six round 712 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 1: pick last year? No? No, Tom Brady? Right, all right, 713 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: that's I'm just saying, But who's who who they draft 714 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: last year and the sixth that they didn't have a 715 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: six it's but yeah, the guy they took in the 716 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: six two years ago is not playing football. You're absolutely right, 717 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: You're absolutely I just I want to take an aggressive approach. 718 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: If I went ahead and got something for somebody to 719 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: make a trade, I'm going in. That's I mean, I 720 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: feel fine with it. When you're talking about day three, 721 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: that doesn't bother. I'm trying to think of the teams 722 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: between me and Kansas City right now, and just let's 723 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: let's look Saint Louis right now, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Baltimore, Arizona, Carolina, 724 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: Baltimore again, San Francisco. Do not feel great about Frank 725 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: Clark making it through there? If you're going if that's 726 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: if that's who we're going to get. Yeah, Francisco, I'm 727 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,239 Speaker 1: in if If I don't even I don't, I mean, 728 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: all right, let's talk about is there anything else that 729 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: we need? Though? I mean, I want to get that 730 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: defensive ends? If if we're doing this deal, we're doing it. 731 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: We're doing it for Clark. Is there anybody else that 732 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: we need to be thinking about? Trey Flowers came off 733 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: the board, Jordan Hicks came off the board. I think 734 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: we're looking defense here, linebacker. It's got to be defense seven. 735 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: How about like a would Perryman be in the situation here? 736 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: You went off the board in the third round. Oh okay, 737 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: that's so he's not an option. What about where's my 738 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 1: where's my defensive end ranking? Here? Who else we got here? Well? 739 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: Nudist roaches? We don't. We talked about him potentially, Jared potentially. 740 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 1: I want the defensive end I'm going to get. I 741 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: don't worry about those tackles. I'm going to get me. 742 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: I think I could grab a tackle later in this draft. 743 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go for a Clark here right, Well, here, 744 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: here's the other thing have we done? We've done our homework. 745 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 1: We feel good about the character. We feel good about 746 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: going up and get getting a player that is not clean. 747 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: There's some missues there. Ryan loves the guy. I mean, 748 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: we feel we feel okay with all the work we've done. 749 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: I also feel good about the talent. Yeah, I know you, 750 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: no question. I feel good about that guy screaming off 751 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: the edge and sacking whoever plays quarterback at Philadelphia. Okay, 752 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: that's who I feel good about. Do it. Let's go 753 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: up and get him. Okay, all right, we're gonna make 754 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: that deal. We're giving up one twenty seven and one 755 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: ninety seven. I just want you to I just want 756 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 1: to point out to you how happy I am right 757 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: now when the live ammunition is flying this weekend. You 758 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: have completely jinxd this like Clark is not going to 759 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 1: happen now because you've been that Adam into a mock draft. 760 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: I'm just saying you could. You could have tucked him 761 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: away in your back pocket, you know, and kept you know. 762 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: I'm great, you know. To be honest, I'm grateful the 763 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: fact he's in the fourth round, but I think the 764 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: character stuff makes it possible. I've been watching him, watched 765 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: him since the third round. He was gonna be my 766 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: pick at ninety one. Is this is do we think 767 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: this is realistic? That he's what's the character problem? But 768 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: I mean, you love him enough that you'll take him 769 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: at ninety one. I don't we know that somebody else? 770 00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: That's me, But how do we know somebody else doesn't 771 00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: feel that he's He think he's a fringe top one 772 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 1: hundred guy. Maybe he goes top one hundred, Maybe he 773 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: doesn't that character stuff. There might only be six teams 774 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: in the league that would take a chance on this guy. Yeah, 775 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: you know who knows he could be off every other board. 776 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: So I'm looking stupid by going and getting him right now? Okay, 777 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: but I'm going to get my player. It's not impossible six, 778 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: It's not implausible that he could be there at one 779 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: eighteen or even one twenty seven. I think it's definitely possible. 780 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: But I think I'll be surprised if he lasts passed, 781 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: and I think we are surprised to see him there. 782 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: That's why we're going to get him. You know what 783 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: I told you, cats, I've been watching him since ninety one. 784 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 1: I mean I was that was why No. No. Ninety 785 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: one was my pick. You can adopt him when he 786 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 1: moves to I think we feel a lot better getting 787 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,840 Speaker 1: him getting him here at one eight, so much happier 788 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: getting him mac here than at ninety one. Scarity draft. 789 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: All right, Frank Clark's remember of the Dallas Cowboys. So 790 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: let's uh, you want me to go to the press conference? Yes, 791 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: I want you to meet me. You're his agent, right, 792 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: I want you to meet him at the front door 793 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: with his jersey. And I know there's some issues there, 794 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: but I love the ability. Okay, that's me right there. 795 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 1: All right, let's let's fast forward through here. Um, we're 796 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: gonna go to the fifth round. Yeah, let's just uh, 797 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: for the sake of timing and everything, Well, we'll do 798 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,160 Speaker 1: no more trades. We'll just look. We have three picks 799 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: left the fifth two sevens. I lost that sixth round 800 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: or so, no more trades. We'll just we'll look at 801 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: the fifth round pick and then two sevenths. So with 802 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 1: the fifth round pick one sixty three top options available. 803 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: We have some defensive tackles Gave right out of Auburn. 804 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: I like him, Linebacker big ten Jake Ryan at a Michigan, 805 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: Damian Wilson Minnesota like Damian Wilson a lot from Minnesota. 806 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 1: But if we look towards offense, maybe time Montgomery still available. 807 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: Stanford a player that maybe not so much offense but 808 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: special teams. Uh, we've talked a lot about him, maybe 809 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: you know, feeling that role that that we need from. Uh. 810 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 1: Lucien Harris? Yes, Harris? What are you looking at? What's 811 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: it looked like at tackle? What's it look like at quarterback? Tackle? 812 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: Let's see here? Tackle? You're probably you're my offensive tackle. 813 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: You're probably it's wiped out a little bit. We've got guys. Uh, 814 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: I got some seventh round guys, I mean six seventh 815 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 1: round guys. We might need to think about all Myris 816 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: Tyres Thompsons available. Andrew danelle M Danelsa Iowa. Yes, Joy Robinson, Uh, 817 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: let's see who else. Lawrence Gibson a player we like, 818 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 1: still there, but so Laurds Gibson, that's name. Let's let's 819 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 1: hold off on him. Let's let's uh. I gave him 820 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: a p F A grade, but I think he is 821 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: gonna get drafted. I grated him better than this. I 822 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: grated him better. I really, I mean, you look at 823 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: our three picks. I really like it. On paper, But 824 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 1: when you're talking about trading and stuff, you're thought you're 825 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: getting into the sixth round late in the draft, and 826 00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 1: I mean this team needs a swing tackle. Yeah, so 827 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: that's definitely the downside. I think you got to keep 828 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 1: that in mind though. I mean, Chaz Green has always 829 00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: been my guy. If the draft, stay, if you if 830 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: you stay where you are. It's the words chalk, right, chalk, 831 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: chalk chalk you do that if you chalk this draft? 832 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: Fourth round? Uh, Chaz Green would have been my kind 833 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 1: of guy, maybe even a third round guy, maybe ninety one. 834 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: If Chaz Green was still on the board, I'd be all. 835 00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 1: I'd be all with you there. Yeah. And if he's 836 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: not in this scenario in the fifth, yeah, Chad's greenforth 837 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: them for the injuries. I'd probably take him in a second. Yeah, 838 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 1: he's that good of a player. Yeah, but no, he's 839 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: Chad's Green's off the board. I don't like our tackle 840 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: options here. I keep going back to Montgomery. I've been 841 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: hard on Montgomery he throughout this process. Yeah, but in 842 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 1: the fifth round, in the late fifth round, I'm looking 843 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: at my draft board right now here that I've got 844 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: and I've got Montgomery in the fifth So I have 845 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: absolutely no issues at all if someone like yourself, Dane 846 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: steps up on the table and says, if you can 847 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: give me a guy that could be kind of a 848 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: mismatched player tossing the balls or running back, be a 849 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: punt returner, be a kick returner, put him some stuff 850 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: on the outside of the wide receiver. Let me ask 851 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 1: let me ask you this, And I don't have a 852 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: problem with it if that's where we end up going. 853 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: But I mean, all right, your top three eight receivers, 854 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: Sat des Terrence Beasley. He's not gonna beat those guys out. No, no, no, no. 855 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: You feel that confident about him as a returner and 856 00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 1: a special teams guy that he's gonna be a Day one. 857 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,400 Speaker 1: He's a forty six. You're not worried that he won't 858 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: win this job. I forgot about Street two by the way, 859 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: streets there, and yeah, and that's a receiver. That's a 860 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: guy that you took in the fifth round last year. 861 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,799 Speaker 1: So you don't want this guy jumping him either. So really, 862 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm thinking Montgomery needs to be a hell 863 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: of a gunner and a hell of a returner if 864 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: you're gonna take it. I think he is, and I 865 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: think he's a guy that you take for special teams 866 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 1: and anything he gives you on offense and year one 867 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: is a bonus. Yeah see, I got the kid, the 868 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: Whitehead kid down in the seventh round, the lucky Whitehead 869 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: Florida Atlanta. Excuse me? Is that type of guy if 870 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: you had to go Montgomery to me? I got him 871 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,319 Speaker 1: on my board in the fifth. I mean that's kind 872 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: of where I see. I'm just I'm not gonna feel 873 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: good if like Cole Beasley beats this dude out for 874 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,080 Speaker 1: I don't think he will. I think that I think 875 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: that this is a pick. I think this is a 876 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 1: pick that the special team's coach would be too banging 877 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: on the table. I've been I think we've been tough 878 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: on time Montgomery. But to get him in the fifth 879 00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: I think that's good value. Yeah, Okay, Time Montgomerys are picked. 880 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,800 Speaker 1: All right, good, So we've gone let's see here, we 881 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: lost that six round pick for Clark. So what pick 882 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: number was that hundred sixty three in the fifth round? Yeah, 883 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: for a time Montgomery. So we we take a round 884 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: off in the six, we go to the seventh. We 885 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: have two picks here now see now we were we 886 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: were off in the draft anyway. We didn't have a 887 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: six round pick, right right, the day started, right, so 888 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: we used a six round pick to gil back in 889 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: and get a player we wanted. So good use of 890 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: not having a pick. Dane did a nice job of 891 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: getting us a pick so we can play, continue to 892 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 1: play in the draft. Okay, so we uh, we have 893 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: two thirty six and two forty three so far, we 894 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: have a cornerback, a running back, a defensive end, wide receiver, 895 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: special teams player. So we've gone defense offense, defense, offense. 896 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: Let's go back to defense. Let's see, uh, you know, 897 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:51,799 Speaker 1: linebackers we have left available? Ben Heeny Kansas, Bryce Hager Baylor. Uh, 898 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: some defensive tackles. Xavier Williams Northern Iowa. Here's a name, 899 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: Central Michigan's Litterious Walton, a player I think more of 900 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: a fifth sixth round player. Right, he's still on the 901 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 1: board here in the seventh A guy that fell through 902 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 1: the through the cracks a little bit Chippawa like that 903 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,480 Speaker 1: fit you know. I we we addressed the front seven 904 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 1: with with Frank Clark. Walton would give us a little 905 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: more of an interior presence, A guy that I think 906 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 1: he play knows with the one. He could play three 907 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 1: if you want him too. He has versatility. He does 908 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: have some versatility. I see where you're going in and 909 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,760 Speaker 1: I'm very surprised that he's still available at this point 910 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,840 Speaker 1: in the draft. And I'm kind of looking down at 911 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: my board. I had him in the fifth round on 912 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 1: my board, So that kind of tells you a little 913 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: bit about what we think about the player. And I 914 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: like the versatility part of it too, and I think 915 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: that's really important. And this is a guy that can 916 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 1: rush the passer, that supportant from that inside spot you 917 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: want to disruptive up the field. Guy Walton is that guy. 918 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: Tape is good on him for that twenty Yeah, I mean, 919 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 1: big guy that can. Yeah, he wasn't overly productive divin college. 920 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 1: But you you're liking what we're staying here. You don't 921 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: have to sell me on defensive tack like they don't 922 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 1: seem to think defensive tackle is a problem. But I 923 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: would like to add another body to that. I mean, 924 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 1: you got Crawford, McLean and Hayden, and that doesn't strike 925 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: a whole lot of fear in any place. Well, I 926 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: think they'd like to upgrade, upgrade h a man brain 927 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: did hey Nick Hayde. Yeah, too many names in my head, 928 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: but yeah, I think they would like to upgrade Hayden 929 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: with a more athletic guy. Yeah. It kind of goes 930 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,440 Speaker 1: back to like if you stay there, picked Carl Davis. 931 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's more of a guy. I mean that 932 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,359 Speaker 1: type of a guy. We think. We think this guy 933 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,000 Speaker 1: is a lot better than Ken Bishop or Davon Coleman. Yeah. 934 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: I think so I gets an upgrade, and I think 935 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 1: he has workable traits, a guy that you feel good developing. 936 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: And I think he would work really well with with 937 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,320 Speaker 1: Marion Nelly. So, I mean Nick Hayden, he was a 938 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: six round pick, you know, right. I mean I think 939 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 1: this Walton could be a similar type of mold where 940 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: he developed into a maybe a possible starter. Yeah, I 941 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: my notes, I just went, I'm sorry, pulled him up 942 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: late here, I say, always going forward, you know, kick 943 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 1: gets a push up the field. We'll close on the 944 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: play field redirect for a big man. We'll try and 945 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: spin himself free. Hard man to block on the move, 946 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,399 Speaker 1: chase to play short stepper, I mean short stepper, little 947 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: little baby steps there, tough at the point, quick arm 948 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: over move, always active, always stays moving, six five three 949 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: nineteen pounds. You know I'm looking for trades man. LT. 950 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: Walton is a guy, Dane. Let's turn that card in. 951 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 1: Walton is our pick at let's see two thirty six. 952 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:30,040 Speaker 1: So good, Wow, shooting down two forty three. Our final 953 00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 1: pick executive of the years here on this board. We 954 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: didn't draft Zach Martin. We're not gonna get that one. 955 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: Keeney and Hagar just went off the board. So those 956 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: two linebackers are off. Are we looking what are we 957 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 1: looking at here? I'll tell you what. Dave brought up 958 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: a point about that tackle. Yeah, that swing tackle. Absolutely, 959 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: that's something that we could look at. And we talked 960 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,760 Speaker 1: about Lawrence Gibson earlier. He's still on the board. Corey Robinson, 961 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: South Carolina, He's still on the board. I don't like 962 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,239 Speaker 1: Corey Robinson athletically. I have a real problem with him. 963 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: Say there's a reason he's still on the board, right, Yeah, 964 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,680 Speaker 1: I agree with Terry Poole out of San Diego State. 965 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 1: He's still around. Um, it's a few other players, but 966 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 1: I keep coming back to Gibson Virginia Tech. Now, this 967 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:10,879 Speaker 1: is a player I graded as a priority free agent. 968 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,759 Speaker 1: But I think I understold him a little bit. I 969 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 1: think you got him poor. I mean I don't think 970 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 1: you got him right. No, I mean personally I agree. 971 00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: I think there's what the hell well, there's more upside 972 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,280 Speaker 1: there than I think I gave him credit for initially. 973 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 1: I think you see, you see the foot quick news, 974 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 1: you see the lower body coordination. He can shuffle and square. 975 00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 1: I worry about his eyes. They're all over the place. 976 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: I don't disagree. You see more spurts than consistency with right. 977 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: But those spurts are are are pretty uh pretty excellent. 978 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 1: So I think that this late in the draft. Yeah, 979 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: you're talking about good values. I valuated him against Ohio State, Virginia, 980 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 1: North Carolina in Miami. He's playing good competition. The thing 981 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 1: that I thought about him, that was the best trade 982 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,919 Speaker 1: about him. He's gonna keep the feat, He's gonna keep 983 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: his man block. He's gonna fight to keep his man block. 984 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,800 Speaker 1: I think, you know you gotta have a guy that 985 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 1: when he comes off. I mean, Dane's absolutely right. I 986 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: think he lacks a little, looking at the notes, a 987 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: little upper body power to hold him in place, plays 988 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 1: a little over extended, but he could do you know, 989 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,120 Speaker 1: he Dane talked about the eyes. I saw some things 990 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: though where he did play some switch with you know man, 991 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 1: you know, taking man and then being able to do that. 992 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,120 Speaker 1: Staying with the blocks again, I said, was a good thing, 993 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 1: making the cutoff blocks. That's something in the scheme you 994 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 1: gotta be able to do. You gotta be able to 995 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,800 Speaker 1: get outside. Look at the measurables six six, three H 996 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: five five O four and the forty that tells you 997 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: this is not a slow footed player. Over thirty five 998 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 1: inch arms. Yeah, I mean so a well built kid. 999 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 1: A few things that you know. He played right tackle 1000 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,600 Speaker 1: and left talk of Virginia Tech right but only really 1001 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: one year as the full time starter this past year, 1002 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,240 Speaker 1: So I think that's that's a little bit of a concern, 1003 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,440 Speaker 1: the fact that he's already twenty four years old, an 1004 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,040 Speaker 1: older guy. Yeah, but again at this point in the 1005 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 1: seventh round, I think we feel pretty good about it. 1006 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: I'd last line of that. I wouldn't say he has 1007 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,439 Speaker 1: great body control, but you don't see him on the ground. 1008 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: So that's important to talking about an offensive tackle. How 1009 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,560 Speaker 1: awesome would it feel if you were an offensive tackle prospect, 1010 00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: and you got to hang out in the room with 1011 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 1: Tiring and Doug Free and know that like there's I mean, 1012 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: nobody's expecting you to do anything but like learn stuff 1013 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: at least a year. But that's what I'm saying, though. 1014 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,879 Speaker 1: The swing tackle is going to be important. Yeah, sure 1015 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,279 Speaker 1: if the draft. If the draft stays chalk, you know, 1016 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: if you keep all you know and they don't trade 1017 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 1: and they don't, I mean yeah, and you're right. I mean, 1018 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 1: you know Doug Free was hurt last year. You want 1019 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 1: a guy who can do special teams and jumbo and 1020 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: stuff like that, right, you need it better if Jeremy Parnell, 1021 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: you do. And hey, Jeremy Parnell made a lot of money, 1022 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: but there's some faults with Jeremy Parnell. I know, seventh 1023 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,799 Speaker 1: round might not be ideal for picking if this If 1024 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 1: the draft stays chalk and nothing crazy happens, which I 1025 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,240 Speaker 1: don't think that's not going to happen. But I'm fine 1026 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 1: taking a tackle in the first two days bother me 1027 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,359 Speaker 1: at all. I think we addressed going through this draft. 1028 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: I think we addressed other than the linebacker spot. Yep. 1029 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 1: I think we addressed everything that we need and I'm 1030 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:57,760 Speaker 1: sure there's some listeners and viewers who would say safety too. Yeah. Well, Randy, 1031 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 1: we lost Randall in the second round waiting for Duke Johnson. 1032 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,239 Speaker 1: I'm not I just I know how badly a lot 1033 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,839 Speaker 1: of Cowboys fans if I'm with you on that, Okay, 1034 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean for the most part, Gibson was 1035 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: our pick there. So that that that finishes our drafts. 1036 00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: We uh, we have six players. So we started the 1037 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: draft a seven draft picks right, ended up getting six players, right. 1038 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 1: But we feel good about that. We feel good about 1039 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: the six players we got. That's fine. We didn't. Yeah, 1040 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:22,480 Speaker 1: we went up and we got a player that I love. 1041 00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: I know you guys are a little questionable on that. 1042 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 1: But but going up and getting Johnson I think was 1043 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 1: a very smart thing. It was a small move. It 1044 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,800 Speaker 1: wasn't a massive run to the top, like you know, 1045 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 1: giving up a you know, big picks. You gave up 1046 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 1: enough to go get a guy. It's the second best 1047 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: cool drive down on the stadium, pro shop and get 1048 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,319 Speaker 1: a Duke Johnson jersey, like right away, well, I think 1049 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: we all look'll get you and like, what what do 1050 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 1: you wear? Xcel Triple? I'm a big fat guy, wear medium. 1051 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: You hate giving up that ninety first pick. At the 1052 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,800 Speaker 1: end of the day, let's be honest, like, let's not 1053 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,440 Speaker 1: overvalue it. You know you hate giving it up, hate it, 1054 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: but it's a ninety first pick. It's not a top 1055 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 1: ninety player. If if you're given up, I mean, like 1056 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,719 Speaker 1: I said, I know, I mean in the grand scheme 1057 00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 1: of things, it doesn't sound like a lot, but I 1058 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 1: feel way better dealing ninety one seventy. Yeah, I hated 1059 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 1: giving up. You had to do that to get the deal. Hey, okay, 1060 00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: we promised you that we were going to give you 1061 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,160 Speaker 1: an opportunity to comment on the draft. Those that have 1062 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:20,120 Speaker 1: listened to the draft as we've gone along, your thoughts, 1063 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: things you've done, different, things you've done again, We're always 1064 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: We're doing fine. Just your quick thoughts on it and 1065 00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 1: it will take as many of these we can so can't. 1066 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 1: For the last ten minutes, I am going to turn 1067 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,239 Speaker 1: this show over to you and you get us, get 1068 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 1: us on the path. Great. We have Johnny in Salt 1069 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,600 Speaker 1: Lake City. Johnny, we're doing great. What's your question? How 1070 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 1: are you doing? Guys? That was a pleasure to be 1071 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,319 Speaker 1: on the air. M I kind of wanted to flip 1072 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:43,719 Speaker 1: the scrip a little bit of change the subject a 1073 00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: little bit. But I'm gonna ask you right now. They're 1074 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: in the offseason program workouts. Um, I don't know if 1075 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 1: you guys had a chance to walk around the weight 1076 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 1: room where they're lifting or anything like that, but have 1077 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 1: you guys noticed a difference in the program that they've 1078 00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 1: changed over the last two years, because I noticed, you know, 1079 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,840 Speaker 1: we used to have a bunch of it injuries a 1080 00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, and last year it seemed to 1081 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 1: be a pretty good one. Besides, but I wanted to 1082 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 1: know if you guys had to take on if they 1083 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 1: change on everything, or if they changed anything at all. 1084 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,520 Speaker 1: I'd got to listen to you guys. Static stretch it 1085 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 1: is a really interesting point. I mean, they had something 1086 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 1: like fifteen hamstring injuries in twenty thirteen, and winning games 1087 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 1: helps that maybe one. I don't really remember any hamstring injuries, 1088 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: that quad injuries. Yeah, I think, yeah, it's same same strength, coach, 1089 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,760 Speaker 1: same everything. And now we get we get brief glimpses 1090 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 1: of the weight room and stuff, but it's not like 1091 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:37,520 Speaker 1: they're letting us inspect the exercises. Static stretch stuff like that. Yeah, Yeah, 1092 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,439 Speaker 1: that's it. Anthony and Virginia. Anthony were doing great. What's 1093 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 1: your question, hey, guys, I just wanted to get your 1094 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,600 Speaker 1: thoughts and Shack Thompson and how he compares to Anthony 1095 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 1: Barr coming out last year. All right, thanks, I think 1096 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 1: that to me, Jack Thompson, different different player, different totally 1097 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 1: different players. More more shasier than yeah Bar, not saying 1098 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,439 Speaker 1: is jasier, but more on those lines. If you asked 1099 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,319 Speaker 1: me to compare a Bar to somebody, I'd compare him 1100 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 1: to Fowler. If you want to play Fowlers, a stand 1101 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: up guy, I would stake Fowlers a better rusher than 1102 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,840 Speaker 1: than Barr was at you slay last year. That that 1103 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 1: would be the comparison I used. Yeah, with Shot Thompson, 1104 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,400 Speaker 1: you have a very athletic player, versatile, a player that 1105 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 1: I think could be in a consideration a late first 1106 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: round if your board gets wiped out, but probably a 1107 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:26,520 Speaker 1: second round player. Yeah, all right. Kip Peyton in Minnesota. Peyton, 1108 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,400 Speaker 1: you're on the Draft show. Hey, guys. I know the 1109 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 1: Cowboys like the linebackers a lot, especially Kendricks, but we're 1110 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 1: starting to hear reports about Bernard. Bernard McKinney at the 1111 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,800 Speaker 1: Mississippi States. I want to hear, uh, listen to you 1112 00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,600 Speaker 1: guys see if you think the Cowboys might take them 1113 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,760 Speaker 1: or take him. And also, Dane, you haven't ranked ninety 1114 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,359 Speaker 1: first on your board, and Bruce you haven't ranked twenty eighth. Yep, 1115 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,360 Speaker 1: So I want to know why there's a big discrepancy 1116 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: you had. Like, listen to you guys debate about that. 1117 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 1: Thank you? All right? You have twenty eighth? Yeah, I do, 1118 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,080 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you. I'll tell you the debates. I 1119 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 1: like the fact that I think that you can use 1120 00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 1: him as a defensive end. I think that's that's his 1121 00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 1: best place. I think that, you know, I don't like 1122 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,040 Speaker 1: him in coverage. I think that I like he's got 1123 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,360 Speaker 1: size to him. I like the size. I do. I 1124 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 1: went back and watched him some point of attack stuff. 1125 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 1: I like the physical side of that. I've watched this. 1126 00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,400 Speaker 1: I watched him play with a big, mic linebacker, and 1127 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 1: it's convinced me that that might be the route to go. 1128 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 1: But I do feel like though, that you could put 1129 00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,560 Speaker 1: his hand in the dirt and allow him to get 1130 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,319 Speaker 1: up the field, and I think that's where he needs 1131 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,879 Speaker 1: to go. And I think you know he's right about 1132 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,879 Speaker 1: McKinney being in play for for the Cowboys dealing questions. 1133 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 1: I think you look at you look at Jack Thompson, 1134 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:39,279 Speaker 1: Eric Kendricks and been Arderic McKinney. Those are the three 1135 00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,319 Speaker 1: linebackers you have to have your eye on as possibilities 1136 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,719 Speaker 1: for Dallas. But with McKinney, I just don't trust him 1137 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,640 Speaker 1: in space. It gets down to that. Well, I didn't. 1138 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 1: It was about the coverage part of it, the coverage 1139 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 1: aspect of it. I wasn't, like I said, I was 1140 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 1: thinking about two down player and then potentially as a rusher. 1141 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:59,439 Speaker 1: Though that I'm saying, the physical line I valued after 1142 00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 1: watching in McClain play in this scheme playing as a 1143 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,960 Speaker 1: physical mic lineback. So you you play McKinney at Mike 1144 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,439 Speaker 1: and have him rush on like in Nickel's situation, he could. 1145 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,480 Speaker 1: I think that would be that would be interesting. Yeah, 1146 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,600 Speaker 1: you'd have to have a specific plan for him like that, 1147 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,840 Speaker 1: I think, and I think they do. I think they do, 1148 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 1: because take him at twenty seven if you've got him 1149 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,200 Speaker 1: ranked twenty eighth, I mean we always I mean you 1150 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,320 Speaker 1: would take him, Yeah, I would take I would absolutely. 1151 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 1: I would say Where is he among your other linebackers 1152 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:26,840 Speaker 1: you see above Kendricks and yeah, above the see I 1153 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: think that to me, Shack would be in my mind 1154 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,239 Speaker 1: of the three, would be of the three. He's the 1155 00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 1: better of the cover guys. I think Kendricks is the 1156 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,320 Speaker 1: better of the run tackle guys. And I think that 1157 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: that that McKinney is the physical point of attack guy. Yeah, 1158 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 1: I think him the stefense. They're learning that you can't 1159 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 1: just play with small If you're gonna play small guys 1160 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 1: up front, you better have somebody in the middle that's 1161 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,759 Speaker 1: got some size to him. No, I don't think you're wrong. 1162 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 1: And McKinney's gonna go somewhere and probably at mid ear 1163 00:53:58,160 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 1: the mid second round. Yeah, I mean he's gonna go 1164 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 1: closer to twenty eight than he is the ninety one, right, 1165 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,479 Speaker 1: But I'm okay with it because I just don't trust 1166 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:06,279 Speaker 1: him in space, and so that's why he's a big 1167 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,480 Speaker 1: knocks as a cover linebacker. You're absolutely right. But I'm 1168 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,440 Speaker 1: seeing him has put the hand on the ground, and 1169 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 1: if I was thinking of him like you were, I 1170 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,000 Speaker 1: would defensive I would agree. I would totally agree with you. 1171 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,520 Speaker 1: And so I think, yeah, if you have a specific 1172 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 1: plan for him, then yeah, he does move up a 1173 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 1: little bit. All right, can't we got more calling him 1174 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:23,719 Speaker 1: in West Virginia. William, you are on the Draft show. 1175 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 1: All right, thanks taking my call. Appreciate it. Um. Well, 1176 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: we enjoyed Joe's coverage show. I really liked we all 1177 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: did this this year. My thing is I would prefer 1178 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:35,160 Speaker 1: to trade it for a pass rusher. And my question 1179 00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 1: is could they trade it for bud Dupree because I 1180 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 1: might like to see him, get him or the kid 1181 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,839 Speaker 1: from Uva. Okay, appreciate you guys, keep doing great work. 1182 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 1: Thank you. Thanks so. The thing with me and this, 1183 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,680 Speaker 1: I mean you can apply the pass rusher thing to 1184 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 1: the Todd Gurley thing. In my opinion, it's just that, 1185 00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,080 Speaker 1: all right, where do you have to go to get 1186 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,319 Speaker 1: a guy? You know, get the guy that you really 1187 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 1: think is going to make a difference, whether that's bud Dupree, 1188 00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,400 Speaker 1: whether that's Eli Harold, whether that's Frandy Gregory. I mean, 1189 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 1: how are up do you feel comfortable trading? I think 1190 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,320 Speaker 1: I could see bud Dupree going to the Saints at thirteen. 1191 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 1: That's and that's exactly what I could see him off 1192 00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,880 Speaker 1: the board at eight. That's exactly My point is that 1193 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 1: you're I mean, I think you're talking about having to 1194 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,040 Speaker 1: make a pretty considerable trade. We made a small move, 1195 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,360 Speaker 1: that guy exactly, a very small move to do that 1196 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,520 Speaker 1: the floor for Dupree. I, in my opinions, Houston at sixteen, 1197 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,320 Speaker 1: I do not think you'll get past sixteen, okay? And 1198 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 1: is that a trade that you're willing to make going up? Well, 1199 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 1: we told you it was a two to five, yeah, 1200 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:26,319 Speaker 1: because we talked about going to get Girly. And I'm 1201 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,400 Speaker 1: just Dupree is a nice player, but he's not. Okay, 1202 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:31,239 Speaker 1: if Bud Dupree got to the point where it was 1203 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: twenty one and we had to make the small trade, 1204 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm interested in the small trade. Yes, I'm interested in 1205 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,920 Speaker 1: the small trade. Do you remember, like three weeks ago 1206 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,480 Speaker 1: when he was like big gestures or no gestures at all? 1207 00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 1: Like no, no, no, we said that a month ago 1208 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,320 Speaker 1: and you said we were crazy. No, No, I'm interested 1209 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 1: in certain players. I don't know I would go but 1210 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 1: I would go huge for Girly. You just said you'd 1211 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 1: go up for Girling only about I would go huge 1212 00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,040 Speaker 1: to get Girly. I don't know if I would go 1213 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 1: huge to go get bud Dupree. Let me put it 1214 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,800 Speaker 1: this way, how huge? How highway? Who do you like? 1215 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 1: I think? But I think you're gonna have to get 1216 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,319 Speaker 1: somewhere between. I think he's gonna fall at thirteen. That's 1217 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,760 Speaker 1: what I just told you as a prospect. De Marcus 1218 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 1: Lawrence or bud Dupree. De Marcus lords agree and that 1219 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,080 Speaker 1: and that's why in this draft, in this draft, to 1220 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 1: Marcus lawds would be a first round player. Easily agree, Easily, 1221 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 1: We can't. Well, he was almost a first round player 1222 00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 1: last year. I mean he was two picks away. I 1223 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,960 Speaker 1: I and you can never predict what's gonna happen. So 1224 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 1: I'm not sitting here saying that's how it's gonna play. 1225 00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,160 Speaker 1: But in my mind, when I'm thinking about this draft, 1226 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 1: I have almost just written off the possibility of a 1227 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 1: pass rusher in the first round because I don't like 1228 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,479 Speaker 1: the value unless you're making a big trade, Yeah, I don't. 1229 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't like the like, who's gonna be there at 1230 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,560 Speaker 1: twenty seven that you feel good about if bud Dupree 1231 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 1: is still sitting there in the low twenties or I'm 1232 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 1: I know, I'm forgetting somebody I wouldn't trade for Randy Gregory. 1233 00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,960 Speaker 1: Maybe they would if he's falling. I asked you about that. 1234 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,759 Speaker 1: I don't like him. I just I don't trust them, 1235 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,040 Speaker 1: and I certainly don't trust the fact that he weighs 1236 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,759 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty pounds. Did you trade it for 1237 00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,320 Speaker 1: if Beasley will be wake on right? Beasley? Probably if 1238 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,279 Speaker 1: one of if one of those guys is you know, 1239 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 1: if the Eagles pass on him and he's sitting there 1240 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,560 Speaker 1: at twenty one, twenty two, I'm listening, okay, but other 1241 00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:08,320 Speaker 1: but I don't think they will. And that's why I 1242 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,799 Speaker 1: haven't really thought about it. I can't last call. Yeah, 1243 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 1: Brian in Vegas, Brian, you have the last word before 1244 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft? What you got last? The question I 1245 00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,680 Speaker 1: have is two quick questions. I'll hear it out quick. Um, 1246 00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 1: how do you feel pleaseeel a better player? Uh, Jimmy 1247 00:57:25,960 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 1: Ward and Marius Randall? And how much would it reach 1248 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: of a reach will it be to take to Marius 1249 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 1: Random at twenty seven assuming your wife out at corner? 1250 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 1: And my last question is would you trade your fourth 1251 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 1: round pick in the next year's draft to the Titans 1252 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,960 Speaker 1: for I was his name? Mettenburger assuming that, Yeah, they 1253 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:51,000 Speaker 1: take um Mariota from Mariola. Okay, thanks, good question. I 1254 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 1: like we talked about outside the box loving. I like that, 1255 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:58,080 Speaker 1: love it. Jimmy Ward and za Marius Randall, they're very comparable. 1256 00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,400 Speaker 1: I think that's that's the comparison that, Yeah, two cover guys. 1257 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,480 Speaker 1: I like Jimmy Ward a lot better, I mean, and 1258 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 1: I like Randall. Um. I gave him a third round grade. 1259 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 1: He's probably gonna go somewhere the early second, maybe even 1260 00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,240 Speaker 1: the late first. You never know. I like the player, 1261 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 1: but I just think twenty seven's too early for him. 1262 00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 1: And I talked to him last week. He told me 1263 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 1: the team that has shown the most interest in him, 1264 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,200 Speaker 1: you were Dallas Cowboys. So something you have to watch 1265 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,960 Speaker 1: at sixty gotta be worth for that sixty. Fine. And 1266 00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,320 Speaker 1: we had this conversation in the office earlier this week. 1267 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,600 Speaker 1: Do you you think Randall beats out Wilcox or Church? 1268 00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 1: You think he's a starting safety. I think it's certain 1269 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,720 Speaker 1: packages when they play single high. Yeah. I think it's 1270 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,840 Speaker 1: it's find a way to keep Church down. I want 1271 00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 1: to spend my first round pick on a certain packages guy. 1272 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 1: I want to spend my first round. Well, but you're 1273 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,760 Speaker 1: really it's really talking about a second round guy again, Well, 1274 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 1: he said twenty seven if you got you got eighteen 1275 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,320 Speaker 1: names on your board, first round names you Oh, you're 1276 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:50,480 Speaker 1: saying twenty seven is technically a second round pick. Yeah, 1277 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean that's true. Yeah, I don't. I just I 1278 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,320 Speaker 1: have never loved I would rather have Duke Johnson Randall 1279 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,840 Speaker 1: myself figuring. Yeah, that's why we did what we did 1280 00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 1: on the track about the Mettenburger thing. I just I 1281 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 1: don't know that. I still don't know that Tennessee would 1282 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:03,680 Speaker 1: want to get rid of them because you're what, I mean, 1283 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 1: who else do they even have at quarterback? Let me 1284 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:07,880 Speaker 1: tell you. Let me tell you this though last year 1285 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 1: I had an idea of how they had Mettenberger on 1286 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,040 Speaker 1: the board. Yeah, they wouldn't do that. They don't like them. 1287 00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 1: There's there's lots of mistake because Metburger is gonna beat 1288 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 1: Mary L's you ls you all right, the draft is here. 1289 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,040 Speaker 1: Now I'm excited. I want to do another hour to 1290 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,920 Speaker 1: be honest, Right, Well, you get to do that. Hey, 1291 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna come on tomorrow. Can't tell me if I'm right, 1292 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna be on at six forty five. Right, yeah, 1293 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 1: Coverage starts at six forty five, will be on the 1294 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,840 Speaker 1: entire first round YEA, the entire Friday, and the entire Saturday. 1295 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 1: So yes here so you will have the casts of thousands, 1296 00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 1: Dame Brugler, a nation of millions cast, Bill Jones, Dane Brugler, 1297 00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,880 Speaker 1: h David Hellman, Nick, I mean we're gonna have everybody. 1298 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna come through here. We're gonna have the cabbage, Well, 1299 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,120 Speaker 1: have war room cam on, We're gonna have analysis picks, 1300 00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 1: turn it on. Listen to us, guys, We're watched these players. 1301 00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 1: Those guys at the networks and stuff, they haven't watched 1302 00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 1: all the players. This group has watched all the players. 1303 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,840 Speaker 1: So for my buddies here at my scouts, Dame Burglar, 1304 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,480 Speaker 1: David Hellman, can't Garrison, Brian Brous thanks so much for 1305 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,640 Speaker 1: joining us in the seventh round mock draft, and we 1306 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,560 Speaker 1: will see you tomorrow at six forty five