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Speaker 1: Hi. This is Laura Vandercam. I'm a mother of four,

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Speaker 1: an author, journalist, and speaker. And this is Sarah Hart Hunger.

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Speaker 1: I'm a mother of three, practicing physician and blogger. On

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Speaker 1: the side, we are two working parents who love our

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Speaker 1: careers and our families. Welcome to Best of Both Worlds.

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Speaker 1: Here we talk about how real women manage work, family,

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Speaker 1: and time for fun, from figuring out childcare to mapping

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Speaker 1: out long term career goals. We want you to get

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Speaker 1: the most out of life. Welcome to Best of Both Worlds.

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Speaker 1: This is Laura. This is episode one hundred and thirty seven,

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Speaker 1: which is airing in mid March of twenty twenty. We

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Speaker 1: are going to be talking about our routines, which is

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Speaker 1: always a interesting topic to us and perpetually popular. We

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Speaker 1: love hearing about other people's routines as well, so please

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Speaker 1: share those with us on our Instagram account Best of

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Speaker 1: Both Worlds Podcasts. You can share them on my blog

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Speaker 1: because I always post a write up of our episode

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Speaker 1: on Tuesdays when they come out, and we'd love to

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Speaker 1: hear about your routines as well. So routines do change.

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Speaker 1: This is one of the realities of life. You get

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Speaker 1: a good routine going, and then something happens. Your kids

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Speaker 1: switch schools, you get a different job, you have another child,

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Speaker 1: whatever it happens to be, and so life changes and

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Speaker 1: the routine has to change too. But it can be

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Speaker 1: kind of fun to figure out what that routine is

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Speaker 1: going to be. So, Sarah, you had sort of a

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Speaker 1: rework of your routines over the past year or so,

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Speaker 1: as you took a new job, as you moved, as

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Speaker 1: your kids started new schools. So what do your morning

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Speaker 1: routines look like now? Yeah, so we'll trade off different

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Speaker 1: parts of the day. I think that will be fun

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Speaker 1: our current morning routines. So actually we Josh and I

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Speaker 1: now take the kids to school most days, which is

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Speaker 1: a change for us because previously, even when we were

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Speaker 1: living here, our Nanni would get here at about seven

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Speaker 1: fifteen and do at least one of the drop offs.

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Speaker 1: And I think I mentioned on a prior episode that

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Speaker 1: that somehow you couldn't drop off all three kids, and

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Speaker 1: then one day our nanny couldn't come, and I dropped

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Speaker 1: off all three kids and was like, okay, that's completely

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Speaker 1: That episode may air after this one, tay Well, I

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Speaker 1: and I apologize. But yeah, so now Josh and I.

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Speaker 1: So basically, on Sunday, I make the calendar for the week,

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Speaker 1: then I'll say, okay, I can do Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday.

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Speaker 1: And then if that's the case, I tell her nanny,

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Speaker 1: so on those mornings, basically I try to work out

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Speaker 1: our listeners who are not aware of what time you

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Speaker 1: early to work out today because this is my chance

429
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 1: to sleep past the six am hours. So I did. Okay,

430
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 1: But yes workout routines, I tend to plan out on

431
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 1: Sundays just what my goals are getting in for that week.

432
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 1: Right now, I am sort of trying to half heartedly

433
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 1: train for a five K. I guess I'm just trying

434
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: to train to get a little faster at running, although

435
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,440
Speaker 1: I'm in this race against time because it's getting hotter

436
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,479
Speaker 1: and as it gets hotter, it gets harder. And then

437
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,679
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, maybe my fitness is better, but the

438
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 1: run was no faster. But if it was seventy nine

439
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 1: degrees in humid, like, am I really getting better? I

440
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: don't know, It's hard to tell. So I'm doing like

441
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 1: usually four runs each week and then two of my

442
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: beloved beach body workouts on the other days, which I

443
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like it might I can't tell.

444
00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: I can't seem to have both. I can't seem to

445
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,680
Speaker 1: have like getting stronger and getting faster. It seems like

446
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: I have to always pick one because I certainly don't

447
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 1: have time to do two workouts in one day. And

448
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 1: maybe that's fine. I mean, if I were just being

449
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 1: completely vain, I would do mostly strength workout and stop

450
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 1: running so much. But I really enjoy running, so I

451
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:57,160
Speaker 1: guess I'm less vain and doing the mix. Oh, yes,

452
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,479
Speaker 1: I do. It is it is and sometimes I've been

453
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 1: in corporate not sometimes rarely. I think I went once

454
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: last month. I do like a studio workout, and I

455
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 1: kind of want to do more of that, but not

456
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 1: I don't need to do it every week, even like

457
00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: once every other week would probably be enough for me.

458
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 1: Where they do both, you know, the cardio and the strength,

459
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 1: and it's kind of challenging, and I should get more

460
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 1: into strength training. It's one of my goals. I do

461
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,800
Speaker 1: want to do more of that. Michael has been going

462
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 1: to our y m c A and doing a lot

463
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: of the weights there. The problem, of course, is that

464
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: getting to the y makes a workout a longer experience

465
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: than just running on our treadmill or running in our neighborhood.

466
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 1: So that's that's each body. Yeah, well, I don't know

467
00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 1: how doing beach body is that. I can't say that

468
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: there is totally meant. My brother in law is a

469
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 1: beach body die hard than like a beach body slash

470
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: peloton diehard. So I don't know. But no lots of

471
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: men do it, but you might like it because well

472
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: and again disclaimer, I don't do any of the MLM stuff.

473
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: I don't buy any of this stuff. I just subscribe

474
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 1: to the online workout thing, which is like it's really inexpensive.

475
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: It's like one hundred dollars for the whole year basically.

476
00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: So I don't participate in any of the other stuff.

477
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 1: But it's a very It's nice to have the structure.

478
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,120
Speaker 1: It's nice to have someone yelling at you and telling

479
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: you what to do. You definitely push. I definitely push

480
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: harder than I would if I were like, oh, let

481
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: me do a set of pushups and a set of this. No,

482
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 1: I have like Autumn yelling at you, like, come on,

483
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 1: fifteen seconds and you want to do it, And I

484
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: will say it sounds like me like maybe I wouldn't

485
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: want to do it if somebody's yelling at me, that's true.

486
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: Maybe not, I guess, I don't know. I don't know.

487
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: I wonder what what Gretchen Ruben would say about like

488
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: the personality type that enjoys beach body. But it seems

489
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: to be a good fit for me, so I would

490
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: think that it would be a good fit for you.

491
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: But I think there's I have a you have a

492
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: more rebellious dream guy that's Drake that you start yelling

493
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: at me. I'm out so that you only want to

494
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: yell at yourself, yell at myself, but anyone else needs

495
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 1: to needs to take a chill. Yeah, you want to

496
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 1: talk through your work routine. Sure, I sort of did

497
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: mine already. I realized I jumped the gun on that. No,

498
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: you could tell more, because you could talk about your

499
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: work in terms of like when do do podcasting stuff

500
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 1: and when do you do other stuff? Because I would

501
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: be interested in hearing some of that breakdown. So I'll

502
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: let you think about that while I tell you mine.

503
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: So I'm basically two days fully clinical, and on those

504
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: days it's just like patients, patients, patients. I started eight thirty.

505
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 1: I tried desperately to get my notes done by twelve

506
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 1: or so, but I usually don't. It's usually more like

507
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: twelve thirty. And then I either eat lunch with colleagues

508
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: or I close the door and shut the world out

509
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: and read a book or something, which honestly is what

510
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: I more feel like doing on those days when I've

511
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 1: been seeing patients patients patients, so I try to do

512
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: more of that. Sometimes I try to bring lunch on

513
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: those days or even allow myself to order out so

514
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: that I can just kind of like be a recluse

515
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: for a little bit. And then I go back and

516
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 1: I see patients, patient patients, and I try really hard

517
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 1: to get my notes done as I'm seeing the patients

518
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: to the extent possible, and that means keeping my outlook

519
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 1: clothed and not doing other things because otherwise you basically

520
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: can't accomplish anything. And then on the days that I

521
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: am more or not just more just you know, dedicated

522
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: to doing GME, I have been better about you know,

523
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: I get there. I have several things on my list.

524
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 1: I try to plow through those things, and then every

525
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 1: Friday I make sure that I clear out my email

526
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,359
Speaker 1: because you know, as annoying as email can be, my

527
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: job is responding to things like I have to be responsive.

528
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be instant response. People understand I'm

529
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 1: a physician and I may be on call or be

530
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: doing other things, but I also can't let things sit

531
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,959
Speaker 1: for like, you know, weeks, So I kind of make

532
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: sure to respond to everything I need to by the

533
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,640
Speaker 1: end of the week. And I don't really have any

534
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 1: kind of daily closing ritual, but I will say that

535
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,199
Speaker 1: Friday I'm pretty good about like trying to get everything

536
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: to zero so that I can start first the next week,

537
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 1: and I do a little bit of thinking about what

538
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: my priorities would be for the next week, so that

539
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: when I go in on Monday, I well, not mondaycause

540
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,719
Speaker 1: Monday's Day, but when I have my first Jammy day

541
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: at that next week, I kind of know what I'll

542
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: be putting on my list, and that makes sense. Yeah, Well,

543
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: I plan my weeks on Friday, And now that I'm

544
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: in the situation where I can only really count on

545
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: about two hours a day of focused work, I am

546
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: just ruthless about figuring out what needs to happen in

547
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: terms of podcasting, So before Breakfast, my other podcast, I

548
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: try to write those episodes on the weekend if I can. So,

549
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: if I get some time over the weekend, I'll try

550
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: to write five episodes for the upcoming week, and then

551
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 1: one morning that will be my main goal. My main

552
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: professional goal for the day is to record those five

553
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: episodes because you know, it has to be done around

554
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 1: baby feiting because it has to be quiet, so and

555
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: then I can't do it other points of the day

556
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: because there's other people around, so it geninitly has to

557
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: happen during one of those morning. It's probably another morning.

558
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 1: A priority for the day might be writing something that

559
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 1: I have agreed to write, or editing something I had,

560
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: sort of the issue of assignments that I had taken

561
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 1: on earlier in the year, landing then with edits later.

562
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: I've also been doing a book proposal, so that's my

563
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: own thing, and I had it's sort of the fun

564
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 1: experience of So I wrote a novel for National Novel

565
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: Writing Month and I was looking to get some test

566
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: readers for it, and I just put a note in

567
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,959
Speaker 1: my newsletter that I sent out and I was I

568
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: was thrilled with the response, like that's great that people

569
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: are interested reading my book. But that was like, oh no,

570
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 1: I have like hundreds of emails now I have to

571
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: respond to about it that I was like, what so

572
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: getting through that was a morning that was a morning's

573
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: activity as well, that it is very flattering. I was

574
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: thrilled that people are interested in reading it, so that

575
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 1: hopefully will be better with their feedback and that'll be

576
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: out in a year or so. Yeah, so's each day

577
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: it is a different main task and maybe a secondary task.

578
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: And then there's some other things that I can do

579
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: while I have the baby. So for instance, I can

580
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: record the before breakfast of the sense and then maybe

581
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 1: I listen to them in the afternoon while to make

582
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: sure they're good while I have the baby. Or maybe

583
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: I'm responding to a certain number of emails in the

584
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: afternoon while I have the baby, because I can do

585
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 1: that with one hand while holding him and feeding them.

586
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: Or sometimes it's personal to do that I have to

587
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: do as well. I need to practice music for a

588
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: choir it's been really challenging of late, so I can

589
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: nurse the baby and bang out the notes on my

590
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: keyboard with the other hand. And so these are just

591
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: all sorts of things that I triash what needs to

592
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: be done, focused, what would be easiest done with two

593
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: available hands for typing, and then the afternoon stuff. I

594
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: can get to things. I can certainly get to other things,

595
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: but I can't count on them. It's kind of the

596
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: only reason that you're able to continue to be so

597
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: productive is all this. It's the triaging and the planning ahead,

598
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: because I think otherwise you would go into the day

599
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: and be so flustered by it and be like, oh

600
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: my god, I only have two hours, and a lot

601
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: of people would just give up. Yeah. No, but I

602
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: mean this is it's it's good to write about productivity

603
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: for situations like this. And I've been taking advantage of

604
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: the fact that I am not traveling because I shoved

605
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: all gigs out of the first quarter of the year

606
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: to do a few other things with the kids. I

607
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: am building lego structures with with Sam. We're currently working

608
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: on the Empire state building. That's that's kind of an ordeal.

609
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: You know, Ruth and I to a Valentine's party. I

610
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: went to a Valentine's party. Today, I have Ruth and

611
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: I have been doing coloring. Yeah, just just trying to

612
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: do things like that. And you know, I say there

613
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: are personal to dos as well that wind up on

614
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: this list of like your goal for the week, and

615
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: it just keep these in mind, Like, you know, we

616
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: needed to get Jasper an eye appointment and get them glasses,

617
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: and so that was something that wound up happening. And

618
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: you know, you just if you set very limited goals,

619
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: you can get through them. That's awesome. All right. Well,

620
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 1: I think that's a lot of routines. I hope people

621
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: kind of I don't know, enjoy hearing those. They seem

622
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: to be some of our most popular episodes, so people,

623
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: I will admit I also like listening to other people's routines,

624
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: so yes, please share what is working for you, your logistics.

625
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: Even people's mornings I find fascinating. So yeah, I was

626
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: going to also in this episode cram in a little

627
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: moods update. Okay, Laura's giving me the thumbs up, so sorry,

628
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to switch the baby to the other side.

629
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: So I thought maybe we didn't need to hear that.

630
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: Can you talk about your moods while I do this? Yes,

631
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: you do that, I won't watch it. I'm just kidding.

632
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: So you guys know, I talked a few months ago

633
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 1: about how I really struggle with moods around my cycles.

634
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: Or I did, and every criteria for PMDD, which is

635
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: pre menstrual dysphoric disorder, which is kind of like turbocharged PMS,

636
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: I met and it was very frustrating. And the truth is,

637
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: while you're in it, you just feel like, oh my god,

638
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm crazy, I'm depressed, I hate my life, Like what

639
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: is wrong with me? I'm not looking forward to anything,

640
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: like everything, and it feels very, very real. But I

641
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: did have the wherewithal to be paying attention to the

642
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: fact that, like, oh, I had all those feelings for

643
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: about two weeks every single month and then it would

644
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: go away, and that was completely in line with like

645
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: the two weeks prior to and just in the beginning

646
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: of my period. So, you know, being a physician, I

647
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: have course researched, you know, what are the treatments for this,

648
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: And it turns out that some people will go on

649
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: an SSRI actually for a part of the month, and

650
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: other people will just go on hormonal birth control. So

651
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: I asked my OB who I really liked, and she

652
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: was like, no, a lot of times, yeah, I just

653
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: use hormonal birth control and that helps a lot of people,

654
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: and specifically I think yeas or the generics are on

655
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: label for this, so I said, great, I've been on

656
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: it before, let's do it. You know, I had been

657
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: hesitant to use birth control just because prior to having Annabelle,

658
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: I had a manor rea for like more than two years,

659
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: and I didn't like the idea that like, I wouldn't

660
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: know what my body was doing naturally. But once I

661
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: experienced what my mind seemed to do with its hormonal cycles,

662
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I don't really care

663
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: what it's doing naturally. I would like to just not

664
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 1: feel like this. So about four months ago, I three

665
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: or four months ago, I started on a generic of

666
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: YEAS and it absolutely like turned everything around. I think

667
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: I went to three therapist appointments and I was like, oh,

668
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: maybe I'll keep going. But honestly, once I fixed the

669
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: hormonal component, I didn't really feel like I needed anything anymore,

670
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: so I did not continue that relationship. So life has

671
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: just been back to normal. I look forward to things again.

672
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: I honestly just want to stay on this medicine so

673
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: my life, or at least the rest of my hormonally

674
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: active life, can't you know, This is what I was

675
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: going to ask, because of course you know, I know.

676
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: Back there's all like warnings about being over thirty five,

677
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: over forty and hormonal birth control. Yeah, no, you can

678
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: definitely stay on it, especially as long as you don't

679
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 1: smoke or have any pro clotting history. You can stay

680
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 1: on it much. Now, of course, every case is different,

681
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: and I'm not like, please don't sue me if you

682
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: have a blood clot because you listen to this podcast

683
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: since I said you could take birth control. No, please

684
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: consult your own physician. This is not This is just

685
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: my own advice and my own exploration is that there's

686
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: not as hard and fast rules about it if you

687
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: don't have other risk factors. And there are a lot

688
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: of people who stay on it till close to the

689
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: years that they would be dealing with menopause. And then,

690
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: of course, you know hormone replacement. There's been a lot

691
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: of ups and downs on whether that's safe or helpful,

692
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: but you know, the pendulum seems to have swung way

693
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: in one direction, the way in the other. And now

694
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: maybe back to the fact that like hormone replacement can

695
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: be useful for some women, and sometimes the benefits are

696
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: worth the and the risks can be small if you

697
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: are otherwise healthy. So yeah, at least for the foreseeable future.

698
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,399
Speaker 1: I mean I turned forty this year, but at least

699
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: for the foreseeable few years into the future, my obi

700
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: has absolutely no concern. So for now, I'm just super

701
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: happy that the solution was pretty simple and I feel lucky.

702
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 1: And if I ever had those issues again, I would

703
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 1: try the other things if this wasn't working for some reason,

704
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 1: because I guess now I just I feel like legitimized

705
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 1: by the fact that like, okay, it wasn't just me,

706
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: like this was something physical that responded to treatment. Yeah,

707
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: it's definitely great when it turns out that there is

708
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: a solution and it works, and yeah, no, that's that's

709
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 1: wonderful to hear. Well, we should do our listener question

710
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: and then our love of the week, right, Yeah, well,

711
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: this was kind of a fun question. Would you like

712
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: me to read it? Sure the idea? Hey, Sarah, I

713
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: have a potential question for the pod. I'm in my

714
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 1: early ties, recently finished grad school, and have a high paying,

715
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: full time job. I have a long term partner, but

716
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: no kids, and listening to bobw has made me realize

717
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: how more than ever, how much flexibility I have with

718
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: my time and money at this point in my life.

719
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: I want to take advantage of this, but I don't

720
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: know how. I save plenty about one third of my

721
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: income go listener, but otherwise want to do better at

722
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: determining how to use my currently abundant time and money.

723
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: Most traditional advices travel when you're young, and I do

724
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: some of that, but I'm looking for things I can

725
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: apply more to my day to day, week to week life.

726
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if you and your listeners and readers have

727
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Speaker 1: any advice for what you wish you had done in

728
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: an average week before you had kids. I love that question,

729
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: mostly because I totally did not appreciate the flexibility and

730
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: time that I had now. Part of that was I

731
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: was in residency training and med school, and during those

732
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: years you're sort of led to believe that you're supposed

733
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: to be spending every second that you have free doing

734
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: some kind of studying or extra work. So I didn't

735
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: really have that kind of job where I felt like

736
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: I could clock out. But at the same time, after

737
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: I had kids, I was like, oh wait, I did

738
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: have more time than I thought. So I just thought

739
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: this reader, like our listener, is so insightful and kind

740
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 1: of ahead of her time, and it made me wish

741
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: that I had listened to a podcast like Best of

742
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: Both Worlds back then. Although I do want to say

743
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: here because this is From time to time, there are

744
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: these posts that get on the Internet of like the

745
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: thirty things you should do before having kids, And I

746
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: really dislike this sort of post because it makes it

747
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: sound like your life is over once you have children,

748
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: and I don't really think that has to be the case.

749
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: I think that some people allow it to become that

750
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: in their mind, but that is often not necessarily reality

751
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: if you're willing to make certain accommodations. And they're not

752
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: saying there aren't situations where it's more challenging to do things.

753
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: But for a lot of people, it is entirely possible to,

754
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: you know, do great things in your job after having kids.

755
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: It is entirely possible to travel after having kids. It

756
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 1: is possible to run at marathon after having kids. It

757
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: is possible to go sky diving or whatever it is

758
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: you're putting on this list. I mean, I don't want

759
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: to go skydiving with kids or without kids, so I

760
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: really don't see why that has to be on the

761
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: list of things to do before having children. But so

762
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 1: I liked that the focus of this was not on Okay,

763
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: go see the taj Mahal, which by the way, I

764
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: did after having children. But it wasn't go see the

765
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: taj Mahal. It was what can I do in my

766
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: normal life to take advantage of the flexibility and income

767
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: I have at the moment. So I thought that that

768
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 1: was a good way of framing this. Yes, I do too,

769
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: and I am also with you that life does not end,

770
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: but life does change in some ways. And I agree.

771
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: There's nothing. There's nothing bucket listy like that's not really

772
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: what really came to mind. I mean, I wrote, like,

773
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: you know, put your energy into a big fun project,

774
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: not because you won't be able to do it later,

775
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: but because why not do it now? Like if you

776
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: now are realizing that you have this extra time capital, like,

777
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: do something big and fun with it. I wrote, build

778
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: your social network in real life, not necessarily online. Learn

779
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: some good life and time management skills, like maybe practice

780
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 1: being efficient with certain things, because you know it does

781
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: take some practice to learn how to make efficient meals,

782
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: and you know, budgeting investing, you may already have that

783
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: down you're doing amazing saving a third of your income,

784
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 1: So that's fantastic. And I wrote, just you know, enjoy

785
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 1: those adult growth years because your life doesn't end. It's

786
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: going to change, but this is, you know, your time

787
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: to really kind of learn how to be an adult

788
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: before you have the additional challenges that it sounds like

789
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: you're looking forward to doing. Yeah, no, I think that

790
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: you know, if she does have big personal projects she

791
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: wants to do, like writing a novel, running a marathon,

792
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: and do it now, you will do it again after

793
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: you have children, but you know, you may as well

794
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: do it now when you don't have those constraints to

795
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: sort of lay a baseline for doing it later. If

796
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: there's if you like, I would say you should probably

797
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: do that as much as humanly possible. That is the

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00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: one thing I would say has become much harder to

799
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: do now. I had a glimpse of it when Alex

800
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: was about four, and then before I got pregnant and

801
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: had the baby kicking and waking me up early, there

802
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: was about a six month period where it was possible

803
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: to sleep in. So I have faith that it will

804
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 1: happen again, but for now that that seems to be

805
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: the one thing that that has been more challenging. So

806
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: you should definitely do that if you if you want

807
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: to experience it. I love it, all right, the we

808
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: love the week? Yes, all right? Is what is yours? Okay?

809
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: So I were going to Disney for Genevieve's third birthday

810
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: in December, and actually during like early December, so not

811
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: when it gets crowded, supposed to be a good time

812
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: to go, and being Disney, you have to like think

813
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: about everything far in advance. And we really wanted to

814
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: stay at the Animal Kingdom Lodge where I know you

815
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: have stayed with the Savannah Bud to like the giraffes

816
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: out the window, because what would be more cool for

817
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: a three year old than like seeing giraffes after window.

818
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: And we wanted a villa because we definitely didn't want

819
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: to be crammed into one room, never doing that again.

820
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: So I started looking online at everything and they were

821
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: pretty expensive through Disney. I was willing to do it,

822
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: but I started googling and I found this thing called

823
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: like David's Disney Vacation Club Rentals, and what it is

824
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: is like a third party, the Disney Vacation Club or

825
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: people who have time shares through Disney, but sometimes they

826
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: don't use them, and this third party basically negotiates so

827
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: that you are buying off somebody's time share time and

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00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: you get the exact same thing. In fact, I confirmed,

829
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: like it's now linked on my Disney app, like I

830
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: can see it in the mind Disney or whatever Disney experience.

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Speaker 1: And I think the only thing you don't get is housekeeping,

832
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: although you can add that for like fifty bucks a night,

833
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: and it saved me like I think like twelve hundred

834
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: dollars or something. I mean, it was ridiculous. It was

835
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: like forty percent of the price less just through doing

836
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: it through this club. I did have to wait a

837
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: little time, and it you know, you don't always get it,

838
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: but I did get it. So I guess I should

839
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: do a follow up after we've taken the trip to

840
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: make sure there aren't any hiccups along the way. But

841
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm totally impressed because I can see the trip on

842
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: my apps, so I don't see any reason it's not

843
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: going to work out, and we're getting the exact same

844
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: thing that we would have gotten. Pain a lot more

845
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: so David's Disney vacation rental that's awesome. Yeah, I know

846
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: that sounds that sounds good. There are a lot of

847
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: people with time shares out there. Is where we have

848
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,479
Speaker 1: done some financial content like don't don't do the time

849
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: share like that you can take advantage of somebody else's

850
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: time having made that decision and getting some vacation rentals

851
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: for cheap. So that's something too consider. Yeah. No, I'm

852
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: going to put a shout out to my I don't

853
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: even know how you pronounce it, medilla medella pump and

854
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: style medella medella. So I bought this thing with Jasper

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Speaker 1: so Low these many years ago, my teenage son. Now

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Speaker 1: I've replaced the parts, like the parts you can replace,

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Speaker 1: so it's basically just the motor is what I've kept running.

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Speaker 1: But I've replaced all the pumping apparatus and the twing

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Speaker 1: that that is PSD just saying those words, okay, keep

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Speaker 1: So I had that. I I ordered a new pump

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Speaker 1: because you can get one from insurance. So I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I'll try one of the new ones that's out there.

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Speaker 1: And I also bought the LV because people said, oh,

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Speaker 1: the in bra pumping will be great. I don't use

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Speaker 1: either of the other ones. I only use my old

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Speaker 1: Modilla Medilla pump and style. And the hilarious thing about

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Speaker 1: it is there's a spot to put a picture of

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Speaker 1: your baby, and so I had put the picture of

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Speaker 1: my baby as I thought you should do when I

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Speaker 1: had Jasper Lo these many years ago. The picture is

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Speaker 1: still in there, so like it looks similar pumping pictures.

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Speaker 1: So that's actually really I think that's the picture for

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Speaker 1: this episode. I don't know that it ever did anything

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Speaker 1: for me. I was just like, yo, and now it's

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Speaker 1: a cute little photo of my But Alex had walked

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Speaker 1: into my bathroom at one point and looked at it

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Speaker 1: and he was like, so, what is that machine you

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Speaker 1: have on your on your desk with the picture of

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Speaker 1: the baby. And I'm like, yeah, that that picture is

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Speaker 1: your older brother, Like go ahead and believe that. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: it's worked for many years and there you go. And

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Speaker 1: the LV was not the miracle that even it's fine,

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Speaker 1: Like it's just I haven't had that much occasion to

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Speaker 1: use it. Now. I'm sure if I might take it,

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Speaker 1: if I like when I fit on the plane planes

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Speaker 1: like plane flights, I think that will be helpful to

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Speaker 1: have it. But for being around the house, i'd rather

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Speaker 1: just go sit at the table and pump there. Awesome.

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Speaker 1: Well this has been a fun one. Yeah, this has

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Speaker 1: been the best of both worlds. We've been talking our

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Speaker 1: routines and how those have changed of lates, with a

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Speaker 1: little detour into Sarah's mood resolution, which is great. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad that happened with side noises in the background from

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Speaker 1: Baby Henry, so hopefully everyone was not too annoyed by

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Speaker 1: that one. But we'll be back next week with more

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Speaker 1: on waking work and life fit together. Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 1: You can find me Sarah at the shoebox dot com

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Speaker 1: or at the Underscore Shoebox on Instagram, and you can

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Speaker 1: find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot com. This has

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Speaker 1: been the best of both worlds podcasts. Please join us

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Speaker 1: next time for more on making work and life work together.