1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Welcome into a week five Giants Hangout, brought to you 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: by Crestron. My name is Madeline Burke, joined by Russ 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: Salzburg and Brandon London. And guys. We are twenty five 4 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: percent into the season. The Giants are one in three, 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: coming off a competitive loss to the Cowboys. But Russ, 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: when you look at the quarter mark of the twenty 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: twenty four season, what is your takeaway so far this 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Giants team? 9 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 2: Well, you know where one in three? I say, with 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 2: the Giants are one and three, they very easily could 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: and should be three in one. But as Bill Parcells 12 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 2: would always say, you are what your record says you are, 13 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 2: and listen, they need to improve. I mean they need 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,919 Speaker 2: to as far as I'm concerned, I've seen improvement in 15 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 2: this team. I have seen improvement in this team. I 16 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 2: like what I've seen, you know, from the offensive line 17 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: pretty much. I like what I've seen from Daniel Jones. 18 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: We all are in love with Malik Neighbors, and well 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: we should be. But it just has to be more. 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. 21 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 2: Maybe I call it attention to detail. I've seen far 22 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 2: too many drops from receivers. I've seen motor Devin Singletary 23 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 2: put the ball on the ground. And I love motor. 24 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: I am glad he's a giant. I love his attitude. 25 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 2: I like the way he runs. But you gotta be 26 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: you gotta clean all that stuff up. And I think 27 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: if they can't clean that stuff up, if that would 28 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: have happened during the first four games, we would be 29 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: three and one instead of one and three. But as 30 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 2: we say, your record say you are what your record 31 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: says you are. Is there room for improvement? The most 32 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 2: certainly is. But I think we've seen I think we've 33 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 2: seen light at the end of the tunnel. I think 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 2: this team can improve, and there's reason to believe that 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 2: it can improve. 36 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's almost it's almost like it's been an extended 37 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 4: preseason for the Giants. 38 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: If you look on the point either of it. The 39 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 3: teams that. 40 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: Are three and one are undefeated. They're catching those balls. 41 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 4: They're holding on to the football and not turning it over. 42 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 4: So Russ, when you say the Giants could be three 43 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 4: and one, and they could be two and two, and 44 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 4: we could give them, let's say a C grade, we 45 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 4: still have to mark them as a D plus at 46 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 4: that first quarter of the season because you still look 47 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 4: at having fifteen sacks on the defensive side of the football, 48 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 4: Dexter Lawrence and you have a third level defender Jason Pennock, 49 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 4: both have three sacks on the season. So when the 50 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 4: run game gets going, a motor Singletary was able to 51 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 4: run for ninety five yards against the Commanders and then 52 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 4: the following game, in the win against Cleveland, run for 53 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 4: over one hundred. 54 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 3: But then again, those. 55 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 4: B pluses, those A minuses getting negated by the f's 56 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 4: and the d's in terms of putting the football on 57 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 4: the ground and not catching the football. 58 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 3: So you kind of you have to flush. 59 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 4: That first quarter of the season, that first marking period, 60 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 4: and then we got the next four to look at 61 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 4: in terms of the halfway mark. But it all starts 62 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 4: out in Seattle on Sunday. 63 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 2: Could have, would have? Should have doesn't get the job done. 64 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: That sounds nice, and rhyme's, well, it sounds sexy. It 65 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 2: doesn't get the job done. They got it not they 66 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: could would They need to get the job done. 67 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: Well, and you mentioned a game in Seattle on Sunday. 68 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: Of course, Giants are kind of coming off of Mini 69 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: by you know, a ten days stretch between that Thursday 70 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: night football game against the Cowboys and this Sunday afternoon 71 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: game against Seahawks Seattle, of course on a short week. 72 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: They played Monday night in Detroit, and we saw on 73 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: full effect what Seattle has to offer. I mean, Kenneth 74 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: Walker the third eighty yards rushing, three touchdowns on the day. 75 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: But of course Gino Smith airing it out. Gino leads 76 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: the league in passing yards right now, and this you know, 77 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: three headed monster of dk Metcalf, Tyler Lockett and Jackson 78 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: Smith and Jigba is a real threat there and it's 79 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: going to be a significant challenge for these young defensive 80 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: backs with a lot of questions. Of course, Dori Jackson, 81 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: Drew Phillips missed that Thursday night game against the Cowboys 82 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: due to injury. If they are healthy enough to play Brandon, 83 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: you know, as a receiver, what do you see from 84 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: this three headed monster that that Seattle has to offer 85 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 1: that it's going to be such a challenge for this 86 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: Giants defense. 87 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 4: I would be if I'm Dk Metcalf right now and 88 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 4: some of the players that I put on tape on 89 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 4: Primetime Football, I'm looking at every Giants corner as I'm 90 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 4: circling putting a dollar Sigdn you know by his name, 91 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 4: because this. 92 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 3: Could be a get paid game for him. 93 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 4: I'm wondering, though, Russ, how defensive coordinator Shane Bowen approaches 94 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 4: this game in terms of getting after Geno if you 95 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 4: can make him kind of move off of his spot, 96 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 4: rattle him a little bit, that could take a ball 97 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: off target a little bit when it comes to a 98 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 4: Tyler Lockett in Jackson Smith and jigbas So. 99 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 3: But in terms of receiver wise and being in a 100 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 3: receiver room, if you're. 101 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: One of those guys on from the Seattle Seahawks you're 102 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 4: looking at, you could put up some plays. But I wonder, 103 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 4: like what if he's if Shane Bowen, because he's going 104 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 4: to have to kind of he's going to have to 105 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 4: I don't want to say, like save coverage or save 106 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 4: some of his players. But is he going to blitz 107 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 4: like he did Deshaun Watson or is he going to 108 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 4: kind of play back like he did Dak Prescott. How 109 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 4: was he going to treat a Gino Smith, who, even 110 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,799 Speaker 4: though he leads the league in passing Russ, he still 111 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 4: only has four touchdowns on the year. 112 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 3: And that's that's tied with Daniel Jones. 113 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I kind of agree with you. I 114 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 2: was thinking about that last night. They got to get 115 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 2: after Gino. I mean, you know, listen, Gino through what 116 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: was he thirty eight for fifty six? He had fifty 117 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: six pass attempts. You know that doesn't that sounds good 118 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 2: or maybe it looks good, but you don't want your 119 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 2: quarterback passing, you know, fifty six times. And you know 120 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 2: part of that reason was, you know, they were Yeah, 121 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 2: it was a shootout. What was the final score with 122 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 2: in Detroit? I think it was forty two to twenty nine. 123 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: You know, and you know, Brandon, we always talk about 124 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: complementary football. Offense has to help defense. Defense has to 125 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: help the offense. One thing about that Seahawks team, they 126 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 2: can be scored upon. And now we want to see. Listen, 127 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: the offensive line of the Giants has done a very 128 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: good job in pass pro, but they need to you know, 129 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 2: open up, listen. We had a bad game, what was it, 130 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 2: twenty six yards against the Cowboys on the ground, So 131 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: that doesn't get it done. Now, that was very very disappointing, 132 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: especially I think you mentioned it. There was one or 133 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: Mantle that may have mentioned one game he motor had 134 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: ninety five yards. The next game was sixty five yards 135 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,239 Speaker 2: whatever it was. So, yeah, we got to the pass 136 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 2: pro has been there and I think it will be there. 137 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: The other thing that I'm worried about when the Giants 138 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,239 Speaker 2: have the ball, as you well know, that's a rough 139 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 2: crowd and you know, penalties hurt the Giants last game. 140 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: We do not need that happening this game. We don't 141 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 2: need to help the other team. And we've done that 142 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 2: a bit too much. 143 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: Right well, and you know Brian Dables said, hey, we're 144 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: going to be practicing with noise. We're going to be 145 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 1: practicing the silent count. We know that this is no 146 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: secret that going into that environment is a hostile environment. 147 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: As you mentioned, Russ, it's going to be loud, the 148 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: twelves are out there, they are supportive fan base, and 149 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: Giants are going to be doing what they can to 150 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: prepare for it. You mentioned the offense is ability to 151 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: produce against the Seahawks defense. Of course, on Monday Night 152 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: Football we saw not only Detroit put up points, but 153 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: Jared Goff going eighteen for eighteen a perfect game, didn't 154 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: miss a single completion in that game. There is some 155 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: opportunity there for this Giants offense to execute, but they're 156 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: going to have to put points on the boards. And 157 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: we saw in weeks two and three they got in 158 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: the end zone right. They had three touchdowns in each 159 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: of those two games. Week four, they really struggled to 160 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: close it out. They've struggled, especially in that red zone area. 161 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: And so Brendan, when you look at the way that 162 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: the Giants played in weeks two and three and then 163 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: comparison to Week one and Week four and the inability 164 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: to score there, what is the biggest difference that stands 165 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: out to you. 166 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: I think they need to hit on the short passing game. 167 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 4: They've shown that they're not going to throw the ball 168 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 4: deep just yet or you know, you need to hit that. 169 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 3: They haven't connected on the deep ball. 170 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 4: So then if you're struggling in the run game, the 171 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 4: short passing game becomes an extension of that. You have 172 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: a Wan Delle Robinson where you use on the Jets 173 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 4: sweeps orbit motions. I think Brian Dabele gets even more 174 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 4: creative this week when it comes to that, maybe having 175 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 4: some sort of backside screen attached to that to see 176 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 4: if you can get a back or a second level 177 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 4: level defender with bad eyes. 178 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: I think that's just going to have to be a 179 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 3: part of it. 180 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 4: You don't know what Molik Neighbors is going to be 181 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 4: able to bring to this game, but margin or if 182 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 4: you will, you may have to spread them out. Use 183 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 4: the Jalen Hyatts now create some sort of some sort 184 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 4: of space when. 185 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 3: It comes to the running game and those motions. 186 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: But at the same time, being able to get the 187 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 4: ball out of Daniel Jones's hand very fast and getting 188 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 4: it and putting the pressure not so much the pressure 189 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 4: on the Daniel Jones, but give them the opportunity to 190 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 4: put the ball in places that's advantageous for the receiver 191 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 4: for catching run. This is going to have to be 192 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 4: a big catch and run game. And my thing for 193 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 4: the noise up up up in Seattle, they should look 194 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 4: at some CFL tape RUSS, because when I was in 195 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 4: the CFL, we would be in like the Saskatchewan sixty 196 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 4: nine to seventy thousand out and we'd bed waggle motion, 197 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 4: but everything would be on hand movement and hand movement 198 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 4: and just being able to. 199 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 3: Sign things to each other. 200 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 4: So that's going to be again, you can't let that 201 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 4: Seattle crowd kind of dictate a turn a second and 202 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 4: sixth into a second and eleven off of a penalty. 203 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: So I think they should look at. 204 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 4: Some of that and in terms of their hand movements 205 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 4: and signals because that can help kind of neutralize some 206 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 4: of that noise out there. 207 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: I just want a clarification too, Molik Neighbors for the 208 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: Giants fans who don't know, he did leave Week four 209 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: with a concussion. He is in the protocol. We will 210 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: be monitoring that injury as the game gets closer and 211 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 1: seeing if he is available. But you know, between him 212 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: and one Dale Robinson, one Dale second on the Giants 213 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 1: thirty eight targets on the season. Giants are the only 214 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: team to have multiple players with thirty five or more 215 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: targets on the season, so they are heavily reliant on 216 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: the passing game and extremely heavily reliant on Malik Neighbors, 217 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: who's got the second highest yardage not just rookies, but 218 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: of receivers in the NFL so far this season. So 219 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: it could be a significant one to monitor. 220 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: Russer a couple of things. By the way of Brandon, 221 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 2: I could agree with you more because maybe you don't 222 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: know this, Mike. I spent four years starting my career 223 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: up in Canada watching the Toronto Argonauts. Really and let 224 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 2: me tell you, you are one hundred percent right with 225 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 2: that whole hand motion. One hundred percent right. And those 226 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: crowds they may not be as big as NFL crowds are, 227 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: except maybe for the Great Cup, but there, Raucus, and 228 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: you're one hundred percent right. That was an excellent, excellent point. 229 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 2: A couple of things I want to talk about both 230 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: you people just touched on him. Well, you had both 231 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 2: guys Malik and wan Dell each getting double digit targets. 232 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 2: You know, I mean for crying out loud, Yeah, I 233 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: mean they each. 234 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,599 Speaker 3: Double digit receptions. 235 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: So, like Dave said, you're not gonna get three guys 236 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 2: with double digit receptions. That's one on number two with 237 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: Brandon brought out. I have but to really like the 238 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: way they've been going to giants with the short game. 239 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: And there's been some criticism, not so much criticism, but 240 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 2: how come you're not getting the ball downfield more? I 241 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 2: would like to see that as well. But at the 242 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: same point, I don't have a problem with the short game, 243 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 2: but it's how we open up the show. Today, that 244 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 2: short game is fine, the short passes as long as 245 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: everybody is catching the ball. There's been too many drops, 246 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 2: not just long passes. There's been too many drops, and 247 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 2: that's something you know, you look at it one game, Okay, 248 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 2: you look at it a couple. Okay, enough, we gotta 249 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 2: hold on to the ball. These guys are good receivers. 250 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 4: They have to hold on to the ball, and that 251 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 4: breeds confidence within the receiver room. So now when you 252 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 4: catch a twelve yard curl route or five yard under 253 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 4: like you see the Giants run a lot, you catch it, 254 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 4: or you've been catching some hard throws and targets, that 255 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 4: confidence against going It's like Mario Brothers when you get 256 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 4: a couple little mushrooms and turtles in you, you know, 257 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 4: you start to puff your chest out a little bit. 258 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 4: Now you catch it under, you break arm tackle. Now 259 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: that five yard catch turns into fifteen or it could 260 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 4: turn into a twenty two or fifty with the speed 261 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 4: that they have out on the perimeter in this Giants offense. 262 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 4: So if I'm jailing Hyatt, this is that opportunity to 263 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 4: where you've you've kind of done a good job of 264 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 4: kind of saying the right things in terms of wanting 265 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 4: to get in there. 266 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: If Milik neighbors can't go. 267 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 4: But the Darius Slayton's wind Dell, you know you're gonna 268 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 4: get your your double digit targets. The Darius Slayton's and 269 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 4: the Jalen Hyatts now catching like be ready to catch 270 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,319 Speaker 4: and run. And you've seen Darius Slayton do that before. 271 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 4: You've seen him not only go over the top, but 272 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 4: you've seen him catch like a little hitch or like 273 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 4: some little drag route and turn it up against what 274 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 4: the Texans a year or two ago. So it's there, 275 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 4: it's there for the taking. With this Giants receiver, I 276 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 4: know might grow personally. Coach with my father and he 277 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,199 Speaker 4: played with my uncle at Uva, my uncle Paul, So 278 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 4: I know he's telling the guys like, Hey, if we're 279 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 4: gonna go out there, it's gonna have to be a game. 280 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 3: We're gonna have to take over and just it ain't. 281 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 4: Don't be pretty, don't be shiny, don't be sexy, go 282 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 4: out there, be gritty because gritty is gonna make some 283 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 4: big plays on a Sunday. 284 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: Hey you say, don't be sexy, but I know one 285 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: person who's got a note on that, and that's Dexter 286 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: Lawrence ninety seven. 287 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 4: I just threw you that teamwork right here. 288 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: This is nine years of teamwork right here. But Sexy 289 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: dex I mean talking about We talked a lot about 290 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: the Giants offense and the needs we want to see 291 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: from this Giants offense on Sunday afternoon in Seattle, but 292 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: the defense going against Seattle's offensive line, which ranks thirty 293 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 1: first in both both past block win rate and run 294 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 1: block win rate. You know, Gino Smith has been pressured 295 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: at the tenth highest rate in the league, which is 296 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: a surprising amount considering the passing yardage again leading the 297 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: league passing yards when you look at the way that 298 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: this Giants pass rush has had their ebbs and flows 299 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: so far this season and has had some success. But 300 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: again last week we saw, you know, they did get 301 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: to Dak Prescott and week four they sat came on 302 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: Thibodeau at a sack for an eight yard loss, the 303 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: first time they had sacked Dak Prescott the Giants had 304 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: since twenty twenty one, so being able to get pressure 305 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: on the quarterback. But this week, you know, with the 306 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: guy who is so evasive and who is able to 307 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: keep plays alive and get out of the pocket and 308 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: continue to do that. What kind of a challenge does 309 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: that pose for this Giants defense and this Giants pass 310 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: rush in trying to pressure this quarterback Brennan. 311 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 3: I said, treat him like Cleveland Shane exactly when. 312 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 4: You went after Dashaun Watson like he went they. I 313 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 4: didn't know Shane blowing shame blowing blitz that much. I thought, 314 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 4: wink Martin, here's the thing. But then they backed off 315 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 4: of a deck. So, like you said, Russ, if we're 316 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 4: going to equate Geno Smith to a tear, we don't 317 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 4: have them on that pure I don't have them on 318 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 4: that pure passing level as a Dads Prescott. But I 319 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 4: think he's better than a Deshaun Watson when it comes 320 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 4: to throwing the football to spring the football. But at 321 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 4: the same time, get after him because again you're gonna 322 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 4: have to mask a little bit when it comes to 323 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 4: your secondary up against a receiver corps like that. 324 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 3: But hey, Brian, we want to see spiders. 325 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 4: We want to see sexy, sexy dexies and whatever Kievan 326 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 4: does from time to time. He does Victor Cruz, but 327 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 4: you want to see it. We want to see it. 328 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 4: I want to be sitting there looking at the game, 329 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 4: m seeing the Giants watch party at McMahon's and Brooklyn 330 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 4: McMahon's pub. 331 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: I want to do it. 332 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 4: Should be m seeing that and seeing the fans that 333 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 4: come out there doing those dances. Because if the pass 334 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 4: rush again, I'll put pressure on the receiver corps to 335 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 4: win this game or be a part a big reason. 336 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 3: But the pass rush has to. 337 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 4: Be there as well, because you got to You gotta 338 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 4: rat with Gino somehow, some way. 339 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: Brandon, I'm glad you brought up the Browns game because 340 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 2: I use this expression. They came out listen. They were 341 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: really mad. They knew they should have won the game 342 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 2: against Washington. They knew they should have won that game. 343 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 2: And they came out real angry. And I used an 344 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 2: expression that they used used to using the fight game. 345 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 2: When you punch, when you hit somebody, you want to 346 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,479 Speaker 2: hit with bad intentions. Now they don't want to hurt anybody, 347 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 2: but when I say hit with bad intentions, you want 348 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 2: to go after that person. And the Giants defense came 349 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: out with bad intentions. When they face the Browns, they 350 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: have to come out with that same bad intention attitude. 351 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: Facing the Seahawks and going after Geno Smith. When I 352 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 2: say bad intentions again, not hurt them, but be mean, 353 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 2: show the defense, showing the attitude, show that enough is enough. 354 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: Let's take care of business. You know, Madeline, you mentioned 355 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 2: ebbs and flows. Well, enough of the ebbs. Let's take 356 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 2: more of the flowing. Where we say, if we had 357 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 2: more flowing and less eban, the Giants might be three 358 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: in one instead of one and three. 359 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: I mean could have said it better. More flows, less ebbs. 360 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: Let's do it right here. Week five, the Giants are 361 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: headed to Seattle facing the Seahawks afternoon slated games. 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