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Speaker 1: What's good.

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Speaker 2: This is Justin Jefferson with the Minnesota Vikings, and this

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Speaker 2: is the NFL Reporter.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, welcome to the NFL Report.

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Speaker 4: I'm Steve Whitson, the guy James Palmer, and Justin Jefferson's

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Speaker 4: gonna be catching passes.

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Speaker 3: From another quarterback this week.

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Speaker 4: As rookie Jaron Hall is gonna be starting for the Vikings. JP, Well,

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Speaker 4: if we have a huge show. We've got Dame Davis,

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Speaker 4: the wide receiver for the red hot Buffalo Bills. This

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Speaker 4: is gonna be awesome. We've got our own Brian Baldinger.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna talk a lot about the Chiefs offensive woes,

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Speaker 4: but of course bald He's got plenty in store. Jane

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Speaker 4: Slater talking about the Cowboys big game with the Lions

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Speaker 4: and Leslie Frasier boydes he has some insight on how

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Speaker 4: to finish out a season as a head coach, JP.

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Speaker 5: I love it.

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Speaker 6: I love it, and as a couple of teams are

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Speaker 6: trying to finish out this season. Steve with a Super

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Speaker 6: Bowl victory. They were the two number one seeds, the

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Speaker 6: forty nine ers in the NFC and the Ravens in

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Speaker 6: the AFC.

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Speaker 7: I said going in that game last week that.

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Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson was the X factor, Lamar Jackson was going

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Speaker 6: to be the best player on the field.

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Speaker 7: Well, Rokwan Smith.

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Speaker 6: After Lamar Jackson and the Ravens just dismantled the forty

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Speaker 6: nine Ers made sure everybody knew who in his mind

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Speaker 6: who the MVP of the NFL is right now?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, and our quarterback.

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Speaker 8: I think if anybody watched the game, if anybody watched

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Speaker 8: football this season and watched the Baltimore Ravens, they know

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Speaker 8: for a fact Lamar Jackson is the MVP hands down,

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Speaker 8: anyone that watches football and no football, and to see

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Speaker 8: the type of impact he has on the game, not

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Speaker 8: even like stat wise, but just individually, like the plays

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Speaker 8: that he may quarter in and quarter out, play in

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Speaker 8: and play out. Compare his film to anyone else in

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Speaker 8: the league, and then I would love to hear what

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Speaker 8: anyone else has to say after.

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Speaker 7: That strong statement.

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Speaker 6: And I love it, Steve, you just out of that game,

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Speaker 6: right of them, just absolutely going and owning. The forty

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Speaker 6: nine Ers. Now face Miami in Week seventeen. They win

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Speaker 6: this game, they get the number one seed, they get

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Speaker 6: to buy get the home field. What do we see

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Speaker 6: heading into this game against the Dolphins team that went

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Speaker 6: out and made a statement of their own against the Cowboys.

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Speaker 6: But where do things stand in your eyes with the

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Speaker 6: Baltimore Ravens JAP.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I know Lamar is that dude, right, he

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Speaker 4: is the MVP of the NFL right now. But this

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Speaker 4: is a game with the Ravens defense. That's what won

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Speaker 4: the game for them against the forty nine.

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Speaker 3: Ers, right, they won up front. They want the second level.

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Speaker 4: Some linebackers you talked about, I mean Patrick Queen and

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Speaker 4: Roquand Smith were amazing in that game. And then their

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Speaker 4: secondary right that is going to be so hugely important

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Speaker 4: against the Dolphins because we know they like to throw

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Speaker 4: the ball, try to hit the explosive play. But safety

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Speaker 4: Kyle Hamilton, and this is what I'm watching, he did

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Speaker 3: He is very iffy with a knee.

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Speaker 4: Now that we've seen the Ravens do some things when

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Speaker 4: some things up for the Dolphins in this passing game.

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Speaker 4: Because you know Hamilton, we saw him there with some

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Speaker 4: He can play deep and manned as he have range

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Speaker 4: on the underneath stuff. So to me, James, that is

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Speaker 4: a huge, huge peg for the Ravens going into this game,

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Speaker 4: even though the Dolphins might not have Jalen Wada wide

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I love that we started this off talking about Lamar,

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Speaker 6: but we both want to talk about this defense. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: because right now they are on pace, and they are

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Speaker 6: and they are leading in all of those.

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Speaker 7: I just love the physical nature in which they play. Steve.

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Speaker 6: We know how physical the forty nine ers are. We

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Speaker 6: just show the Niners that yes, we will tackle you

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Speaker 6: Their front seven has been absolutely phenomenal. That has allowed

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Speaker 6: Lamar has played his best. Now, what I'm interested to

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Speaker 6: this show and way this Dolphins defense has played Steve

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Speaker 6: since the return of Jalen Ramsey in Week eight when

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Speaker 6: transformed this group. It's going to be fun to see

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Speaker 6: these two go at it. Considering what both teams were

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Speaker 6: coming off of and how similar kind of that Dolphins

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there are different things there but they're a little

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Speaker 4: One thing watching that Niners game, Lamar on the move

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Speaker 4: isn't necessarily looking to take off, but he's creating this

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Speaker 3: You know who is not dealing offensively?

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Speaker 4: Those Kansas City Chiefs, man, those Kansaity Chiefs, they are not.

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Speaker 4: They just don't look right, Okay. And so when you

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Speaker 4: see we've been talking about this all season, which is

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Speaker 4: a bigger issue.

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Speaker 3: We've been talking about it all season. But JP, when

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Speaker 4: At what they've got going on, especially heading into this

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Speaker 4: Mind you with Joe Burrow, what are you kind of

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Speaker 4: expecting to do? Because it doesn't seem like they're gonna

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Speaker 6: What I'd like to do is give the man some

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Speaker 6: flowers that everybody said, what does he do?

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Speaker 7: In Kansas City? Andy Reid calls the plays? What does

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you what Eric Jennemy does.

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Speaker 6: He is the guy who held everybody accountable each and

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Speaker 6: guy that coaches with a fire that actually was rubbing

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Speaker 6: some players the wrong way when he arrived in Washington

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Speaker 7: He is also the guy that I.

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Speaker 6: Know for a fact Patrick Mahomes at times has genuinely

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Speaker 6: missed Steve because of how Eric Bienemy's attention to detail

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Speaker 6: has pushed this offense. Remember last season and this is

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Speaker 6: It's that attention to detail that Eric Biennemy brought that

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Speaker 6: I think at this point in the season we finally

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Speaker 6: that I think is now showing its head that they're

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and let's not forget I mean, this is such

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Speaker 4: great conversation, right or JP the Ennemy is so dedicated

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Speaker 4: to the run game, we know, Andy Reid necessarily isn't

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Speaker 4: He might have been kneeling in and you're saying, run

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Speaker 4: Point to me, they're missing that they're not going enough

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Speaker 4: because they've got to give their offensive lineman some help

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Speaker 4: the Golden State Warriors in terms of they won so

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Speaker 4: consistently and just looking at one another because you.

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Speaker 3: Got this, Okay, I got this, I got this.

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Speaker 4: Game where it's almost like it's almost stale. Like against

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Speaker 4: overall as a club, not physically because they competed, but

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Speaker 4: they just look like, man, these little details, why aren't

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Speaker 3: By then I'm gonna flip my wig.

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Speaker 4: They're losing their minds when things don't go right or

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Speaker 4: you know, when you see teams that win consistent Like

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Speaker 4: I said, the Warriors did it so easily for years now.

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Speaker 4: The Warriors are able to keep their superstars intact, something

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Speaker 3: And that's showing itself too.

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Speaker 4: But they have got to find some way jp coming

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Speaker 3: Not going to be easy.

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Speaker 4: To figure something out, whether it's run the ball more,

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Speaker 4: they've got to wake up out of their slumber. You know,

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Maybe Taylor Swift comes in and sing's

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Speaker 3: I don't know. They've got to figure something out to

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Speaker 4: And did it you went there State I did. But

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Speaker 4: these guys on the field, this had another do with

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Speaker 4: Taylor Swift. These guys on the field, they've got to

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we're gonna have Brian Balding or break this down

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Speaker 6: a little bit further. I'm gonna be at that game

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Speaker 6: on Sunday against since Saddi bald you'll be there to

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Speaker 6: a little bit later in the show. He's going to

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Speaker 6: break down what he sees as some of the issues

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Speaker 6: AFC West Olbo Holmes isn't going anywhere, but Russell Wilson

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Speaker 6: has been benched for the final two games of the

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Speaker 6: season by head coach Sean Payton. And this right here

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Speaker 7: Role, Elsie, we're desperately trying to win and.

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Speaker 10: Sure in our in our game today, they're economics and

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Speaker 10: all those other things. But the number one pushed behind this,

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Speaker 10: and it's a decision I'm making is to you know,

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Speaker 10: all of us feel like, man, we didn't do well enough.

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Speaker 7: Steve that last part right there, Man, we all didn't

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Speaker 7: do well enough.

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Speaker 7: Yea, at, I.

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Speaker 7: Plays quarterback for the Broncos because of the financial situation

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Speaker 4: This is devastating to your salary cap. But as bad

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Speaker 4: And this means that ownership is basically saying, let's cut

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Speaker 4: Ki Harley is the ultimate salary cap mathemagician. I would

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Speaker 3: Some things out.

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Speaker 6: And the other note on make Steve is what happens

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Speaker 6: He does have that trait where he finds a way

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Speaker 6: Russell Wilson plays a position very differently. Now we'll talk

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Speaker 6: to a guy who catches passes from quarterbacks, Gabe Davis

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Speaker 11: Next takes the snap, pocket collapsing, has to roll out

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Speaker 7: He's got Dave Davis on the shoulder.

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Speaker 4: Hi went back to the NFL Report, James, we are

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Speaker 4: thanks for joining the NFL Report. And quick question just

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Speaker 7: Man? Oh?

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Speaker 12: Uh, I know he got mean for Christians. He got

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Speaker 12: that golf tag watch. Oh yeah, why, I said, you

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Speaker 1: That was pretty dope.

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Speaker 12: Steph guy, you know, he's a fashion guy, so he

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Speaker 1: Of guys like some clothes or some bags or something.

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Speaker 6: I'm like I was concerned maybe with all these watches, Gabe,

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Speaker 6: Like Josh is trying to tell you all something that

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Speaker 7: People are late to practice or you guys to watch,

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Speaker 1: Exactly.

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Speaker 7: Get you get that touchdown. You have one hundred and

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Speaker 6: You don't know, you don't have anything the two games before.

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Speaker 6: What did that game do for you, especially this late

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Speaker 12: But at the end of the day, you gotta you

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Speaker 12: You know, you ask some people, you know, some people

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Speaker 12: And I appreciate yeah, yeah, and I appreciate you know,

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Speaker 4: what about the selflessness that that people are putting themselves

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Speaker 12: And I feel like, you know, my grandpa taught me

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Speaker 12: I'm just as happy, you know, scoring tests outs as

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Speaker 12: I want all my guys to eat and I want

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's why you don't really leave the field game.

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Speaker 12: You know, it's a good problem to have to be

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Speaker 12: I don't feel like it's difficult for Brady to figure

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Speaker 4: Every week doing so gave those of us in the

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Speaker 1: Know all of us, you know, we love the competition.

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Speaker 1: But I definitely is the Bills are somebody not to

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Speaker 1: It's definitely a team that you know you're gonna get us,

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Speaker 1: get our all.

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Speaker 12: You know, high energy, high effort, and extremely detailed team

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Speaker 12: that is going to play football to win.

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Speaker 3: Gave.

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Speaker 6: We know what you guys have in Week eighteen, play

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Speaker 6: in Miami. Everybody probably who loves the NFL is looking

452
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Speaker 6: forward to that game, but you have to play Bill

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Speaker 6: Belichick's defense before you get there.

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Speaker 7: What is set in the locker room this week?

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Speaker 6: To make sure you guys don't overlook a team like

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Speaker 6: the Patriots by any stretch. You saw what they did

457
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Speaker 6: Christmas Eve with Denver. How much has that talked about?

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Speaker 6: To make sure you just block out that Miami game

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Speaker 6: as much as you can this week?

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Speaker 12: I mean I don't. I don't think it's hard to

461
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Speaker 12: block out. The most important game is the next game.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 12: The Pages are Division division team, a team that has

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Speaker 12: beat us this year and very tough, very sound defense,

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Speaker 12: you know, looking at it offensively, So definitely something that.

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Speaker 1: We're not on and we're not looking over to you know,

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Speaker 1: to Miami.

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Speaker 12: We're definitely worried about the Pagers because we know they're

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Speaker 12: they're still a good team, Okabe.

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Speaker 4: The one thing we like to do here on the

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Speaker 4: NFL Report is to ask players, you know who they study, right,

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Speaker 4: you know what, what other offensive players or things like that.

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Speaker 4: So what other receivers as you continue to evolve and

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Speaker 4: grow in this game, do you study that you think could.

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Speaker 3: Enhance your game?

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Speaker 12: A big one I feel like is Devonte Adams. He's

477
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Speaker 12: such a great uh at the line of scrimmage. When

478
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Speaker 12: it comes to releases, It's like he's playing basketball out there.

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Speaker 12: He's just so fluid and it looks effortless. So definitely

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Speaker 12: a guy that you know, I watched when it comes

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Speaker 12: to his feet and the way he moves his shoulders

482
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Speaker 12: as well at the at the line of screens that

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Speaker 12: really gets him separation.

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Speaker 7: All right, love it, love it.

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Speaker 6: Let I want to finish this up with We did

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Speaker 6: this whole interview. We holtenly talked about Josh Allen in

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Speaker 6: terms of the presidency. Gives what has he been like

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Speaker 6: this second half of the season as his It seems

489
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Speaker 6: like I don't know Gabe like his play is maybe

490
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Speaker 6: picked apart, maybe more than any other quarterback in football.

491
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Speaker 6: The immedia just loves to talk about any pick that happens.

492
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Speaker 6: It's the end of the world. Josh can't not throw picks.

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Speaker 6: Things like that, Like, what have you seen from your

494
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Speaker 6: quarterback this second half the year? You make a change

495
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Speaker 6: in the way he's running this offense as a whole

496
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Speaker 6: right now compared to the beginning of the season.

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Speaker 12: When it comes to Josh, I mean, you know, what

498
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Speaker 12: you see is what you get. He's a great player,

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Speaker 12: one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL. You know,

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Speaker 12: to see him playing the way he is right now

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Speaker 12: that everyone sees is like like he's kind of turned

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Speaker 12: it on.

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Speaker 1: I feel like he's always had it, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean. But things aren't perfect. Yeah, this game, some

505
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Speaker 1: games gonna be better than others. Some years are gonna

506
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Speaker 1: be better than others.

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Speaker 12: But at the end of the day, you know, we're

508
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Speaker 12: the team that everyone talks about for a reason. Seventeen

509
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Speaker 12: has a lot of respect from everybody in the NFL

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Speaker 12: and the people who watch, And I feel like if

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Speaker 12: anyone's questioning what's seventeen you do, there's there's some lack

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Speaker 12: of football knowledge for that.

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Speaker 3: Hey, if anyone's questions Josh Shallon or.

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Speaker 4: The Buffalo Bills right now, they might have a lack

515
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Speaker 4: of football knowledge. Hey, Gabe Davis, good luck this weekend, man,

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Speaker 4: good luck to rest of the way. We appreciate you

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Speaker 4: taking some time to join us here on the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you guys, Thanks Steve, Thanks Jameson.

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Speaker 6: I always love going inside the Bills practice facility to

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Speaker 6: see these interviews, see what they're practicing on. But coming up,

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Speaker 6: how about Lions Cowboys massive matchup? Why does Mike McCarthy

522
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Speaker 6: think this is a bigger challenge for his Cowboys than

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Speaker 6: the Niners of the Eagles.

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Speaker 7: Jane Slater will tell us next on the NFL Report.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to the NFL Report podcast, but you can

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Speaker 4: watch me, Steve Weich and my co host James Palmer

527
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Speaker 4: on the NFL Report at seven fifteen Eastern time on

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Speaker 4: Mondays and Thursdays on the NFL app and free streaming

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Speaker 4: TV and other free streaming apps.

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Speaker 9: Whatever you do something like what we just did, it's special.

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Speaker 9: It don't matter, man, and it don't matter how many

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Speaker 9: you win in.

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Speaker 7: A road they're special.

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Speaker 9: But I can tell you this, when you're part of

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Speaker 9: the organization and it's been thirty years, it's special, man.

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Speaker 5: And these guys been fucking dying fort and wait, Fort Man,

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Speaker 5: it's for you.

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Speaker 9: Maybe that's first one for you.

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Speaker 4: Enjoy.

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Speaker 6: Welcome back to the NFL Report, James Palmer, Steve Whitch

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Speaker 6: with you. That's Dan Campbell Jane Slater. As the Lions

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Speaker 6: are now into the postseason looking for their first postseason

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Speaker 6: win since January fifth, nineteen ninety two. Who did they

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Speaker 6: beat Jimmy Johnson and the Cowboys in that postseason win

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Speaker 6: in ninety two, and that's who.

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Speaker 7: They face the Sunday.

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Speaker 6: And I'm fascinated, Jane, because Mike McCarthy believes that this

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Speaker 6: game is bigger for the Cowboys than their game against

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Speaker 6: the Niners than their game against the Eagles.

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Speaker 7: Why.

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Speaker 13: It's a great question, James, because I think when you

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Speaker 13: look at this division and some of the struggles that

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Speaker 13: you've had with the Eagles and the forty nine ers

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Speaker 13: in recent years, those seem obvious. But I went to

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Speaker 13: Tony Pollard to ask that question, James, and I said,

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Speaker 13: what is it that you're seeing on tape that makes

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Speaker 13: them a bigger challenge? And Pollard he kind of sighed

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Speaker 13: and he said, it's all the coverages and I said, like,

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Speaker 13: and he.

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Speaker 14: Rattled them off, James and Steve.

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Speaker 13: I mean, he said, it's the cover one, the Cover two,

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Speaker 13: the cover of three, the cover four, man and shells

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Speaker 13: and he says, because of that, you've got to be

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Speaker 13: really careful.

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Speaker 14: You've got to be on your p's and q's. And

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Speaker 14: so that is the challenge.

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Speaker 13: I think that standing out for them when they look

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Speaker 13: at this defense, and not only that, you saw the

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Speaker 13: energy from Dan Campbell in.

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Speaker 14: That locker room.

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Speaker 13: I mean, he's got players wanting to run through walls

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Speaker 13: for him their first Divisional title in thirty years. I'm

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Speaker 13: going to ask him on the sidelines pregame if he

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Speaker 13: can record a motivational speech for me, because I just

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Speaker 13: you're seeing the culture change and I you know, you

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Speaker 13: talk about you know, history can repeat itself sometimes. Jimmy

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Speaker 13: Johnson is going in the Ring of Honor. Finally, this weekend,

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Speaker 13: everyone kept saying the curse was broken for the Cowboys,

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Speaker 13: and then they lost their first two straights under Mike

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Speaker 13: McCarthy these last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 14: So this is going to be an interesting game on Saturday, Jane.

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Speaker 4: You know, ansing you follow it out and by the way,

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Speaker 4: it is time for Jimmy Johnson going to the Ring

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Speaker 4: of Honor. I'm glad that's finally happening. You said he

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Speaker 4: spoke to Tony Pollard and the coverages. What about getting

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Speaker 4: the run game going with Tony Pollard, that is something

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Speaker 4: that has been so sporadic in watching this team all season.

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Speaker 13: Listen, Steve, We've talked about this before a lot of

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Speaker 13: people said move on, but it's a hill I'll continue

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Speaker 13: to die on. It wouldn't have hurt to bring back

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Speaker 13: Ezekiel Elliott on a one year deal for some of

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Speaker 13: those situations at the going on because Pollard, right, Pallard

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Speaker 13: just doesn't have that upper body strength to be your

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Speaker 13: third down guy in some of those areas.

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Speaker 14: Now, everyone asked him about Hunter.

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Speaker 13: Lepk and that's you know, the fumble at the goal line,

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Speaker 13: and I appreciate that Tony Pollard owned that. He said,

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Speaker 13: I should have gotten it in before.

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Speaker 14: You know, he took.

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Speaker 13: Essentially the wrong route. There was an easier route to

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Speaker 13: get in there, and he didn't. It sort of put

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Speaker 13: them behind the chains as a result of that. So

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Speaker 13: I appreciate that, but I you know, looking at this roster,

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Speaker 13: Mike McCarthy said, heading in the season, each one of

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Speaker 13: these guys do something different, Malink Davis, Rico, Daddle, Tony Pollard,

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Speaker 13: they all do something different and it's different from Ezekiel Elliott.

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Speaker 14: And that's the assets that you've had this year.

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Speaker 6: Jenna, want to ask you about Ceedee Lamb and what

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Speaker 6: Dak Prescott's saying about him of late.

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Speaker 7: We know how dynamic he's been in the slot, Steve.

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Speaker 6: We've talked about it on this show repeatedly about him

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Speaker 6: doing damage in the middle of the field. They have

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Speaker 6: a youngster the Lions playing that slot corner in Brian

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Speaker 6: Branch Now. He's played a lot of safety, played a

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Speaker 6: lot of corner, but they're having him play a lot

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Speaker 6: more slot corner now as opposed to splitting his time

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Speaker 6: between those two spots.

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Speaker 7: He's one of many.

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Speaker 6: Rookies that Dan Campbell has been relying on on both

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Speaker 6: sides of the ball that Jared Goff believes Jane just

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Speaker 6: don't play like rookies, the ones on the offensive side,

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Speaker 6: the one that defense said, they don't make rookie mistakes.

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Speaker 7: Well, you can't make any mistakes when you're lining up

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Speaker 7: against CD. Lamb.

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Speaker 6: What does Dak see right now that he has to

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Speaker 6: do to make sure CD is a big part of

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Speaker 6: this game on Saturday.

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Speaker 14: How about get him ten receptions or more.

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Speaker 13: Guys, they are four and one when they use When

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Speaker 13: they get ten receptions or more, I think they've got

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Speaker 13: their abject about ten extra points a game when they

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Speaker 13: get that done too.

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Speaker 14: It was curious.

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Speaker 13: You know, we talked about this earlier in the week

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Speaker 13: on various shows and some of our other platforms. He

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Speaker 13: came out after that Dolphins game that first Cordy had

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Speaker 13: almost one hundred yards. He was lighting it up on

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Speaker 13: the field. They really didn't have an answer for him.

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Speaker 13: Jayleen Ramsey wasn't traveling with them, and then he said

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Speaker 13: it was weird the second and third quarters they moved

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Speaker 13: away from him.

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Speaker 14: He went absent.

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Speaker 13: And when I was talking to CD about that, I

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Speaker 13: talked to Dak Prescott. I said, Dak, it's easy to

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Speaker 13: get emotional. Obviously he made some of those comments. I

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Speaker 13: don't think they were disrespectful. It's just all season long.

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Speaker 13: He said, if you're gonna get me involved, keep me involved.

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Speaker 13: If you're going to draft me in the first round,

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Speaker 13: use me as a first round draft pick. If you

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Speaker 13: get me the rock, I'm going to get it in

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Speaker 13: the end zone. Those are all things that Ceedee Lamb

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Speaker 13: has said throughout the year, and when they've gone to him,

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Speaker 13: good things typically happen. So I asked Dak, I said,

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Speaker 13: when you went back and looked at some of the tape,

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Speaker 13: did you see some missed opportunities? And he said, maybe

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Speaker 13: one or two. But it was Vic Fangio who, while

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Speaker 13: they didn't have Jalen Ramsey traveling with them, he did

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Speaker 13: roll over some coverage there, double time, double teaming at time,

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Speaker 13: obviously getting some safeties on him. And so I said,

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Speaker 13: are you concerned about that blueprint moving forward? I mean,

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Speaker 13: Vic Fangio said other teams can learn from it a

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Speaker 13: couple of years back when he beat them with Detroit.

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Speaker 13: Obviously he did it with the Dolphins. And Dak's basic

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Speaker 13: answer was, I think that you're going to see more motion.

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Speaker 13: In other words, he's going to motion Ceedee Lamb to

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Speaker 13: the other side see if they can readjust and so there,

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Speaker 13: I think we're going to see a little more pre

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Speaker 13: snout motion as it relates to Ceedee Lamb. But I

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Speaker 13: do think when especially when you look at Aiden Hutchinson

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Speaker 13: on the other side of the ball and some of

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Speaker 13: that quarterback pressure, what you essentially also need up front

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Speaker 13: is time for Dak and he did not have that

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Speaker 13: against the Dolphins last week. He was under duress a lot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting because you know, the news came out

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Speaker 4: earlier Thursday that Tyron Smith is practicing.

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Speaker 3: They looks like he's going to be able to go.

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Speaker 4: I mean, how important is it to get him back

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Speaker 4: in the lineup for a game like this because the

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Speaker 4: Lions they're kind of come seek them solid when it

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Speaker 4: comes with the coverage in their defense.

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Speaker 14: I think it's huge.

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Speaker 13: And you know, you could make the debate is it

684
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Speaker 13: important to have Tyron Smith now or do you save

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Speaker 13: him with the fact that the Cowboys are already in

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Speaker 13: the postseason?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 13: But I would argue after getting sacked four times and look,

689
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Speaker 13: CHUMDOGA didn't necessarily do him a lot of favors. He

690
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Speaker 13: hasn't started a lot of games. Maybe they make a

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Speaker 13: couple of other moves. You know, they activated Matt will

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Speaker 13: Let's go this week. You do have awesome Richards. There

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Speaker 13: another guy you.

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Speaker 14: Could move Tyler Smith back. I think there's going.

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Speaker 13: To be some some movement with that line if Tyron

696
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Speaker 13: can't go. But it sounds like Tyron was able to

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Speaker 13: at least participate in some of the walkthroughs. Jerry Jones

698
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Speaker 13: this week said they did an injection on that back

699
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Speaker 13: that typically works, so they seemed really hopeful about him

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Speaker 13: playing this weekend.

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Speaker 14: And my argument is, of.

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Speaker 13: Course she wanted to play because you don't want to

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Speaker 13: get your quarterback hurt before the postseason. And having Tyron

704
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Speaker 13: Smith that eighty percent is better than most guys at one.

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Speaker 4: Hundred and Jay real quick also, you know, and I

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Speaker 4: guess real quick, it also works for both teams here

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Speaker 4: they can face each other.

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Speaker 6: Nervist that Jane said, get your quarterback hurt, I'm just terrified.

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Speaker 4: Oh come on, man, we're not gonna lay on real real,

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Speaker 4: real quick day.

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Speaker 3: And these teams can meet each other in the playoffs too.

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Speaker 4: It's there been any discussion about the scouting report. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know the wins are where it both teams are in,

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Speaker 4: but do you think you know either team or both

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Speaker 4: teams are going to be showing their hand, because you know,

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Speaker 4: I think the Lions are still trying to possibly get

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Speaker 4: this home field.

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Speaker 13: I mean, it is absolutely a good question, although I

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Speaker 13: would submit that you know, Jalen Ramsey has talked about

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Speaker 13: how boring some of these offenses have been, and the

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Speaker 13: Cowboys have been boring the last two weeks, so I

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Speaker 13: don't know what they're hiding from us. I keep waiting

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Speaker 13: to see Micah Parsons in some sort of package that

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Speaker 13: employs him as a running back, because he's told us

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Speaker 13: that they've been they've got extra place. Remember they said

726
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Speaker 13: they could seem as many as eleven different spots this year.

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Speaker 13: We haven't seen that, so maybe that's something that they

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Speaker 13: say for the postseason. But what they need to do

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Speaker 13: more than anything, Steve is get some consistency with this office.

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Speaker 13: And don't put that on me, James. I'm just stating

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Speaker 13: the facciat.

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Speaker 14: You got to care if you don't have him put

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Speaker 14: that one.

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Speaker 3: Don't put that on.

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Speaker 7: Burn the tape, Jane. I'll burn the tape. Nobody will

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Speaker 7: ever get a chance to see it.

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Speaker 3: Twice.

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Speaker 7: Appreciate it, Jane, love seeing your face. Your show as

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Speaker 7: always one of our favorite guys.

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Speaker 6: Happen here well, another one of our favorite people coming up,

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Speaker 6: and he'll be with me in Kansas City at Arrowhead. Well,

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Speaker 6: that's Brian Balding or Baldy's favorite films are next, and

743
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Speaker 6: he's gonna tell us what is wrong with this Kansas

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Speaker 6: City Chiefs offense. He has all the answers. Listen, Andy Reid,

745
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Speaker 6: this segments for you on the NFL Report. Welcome back

746
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Speaker 6: to the NFL Report. James Palmer, Steve Witch with you.

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Speaker 6: It's Baldy's favorite films. It is my favorite segment. And

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Speaker 6: guess what. Baldy and I Steve are gonna be in

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Speaker 6: Kansas City together this weekend for Bengals at Chiefs. I'm

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Speaker 6: not sure, Baldy, what you're doing the ball drops. Maybe

751
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Speaker 6: we can go somewhere after the game celebrate the new year.

752
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Speaker 6: Not sure what you got planned. You probably got something

753
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Speaker 6: going on. I'm not sure. I'll probably be by my

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Speaker 6: We wanted to.

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Speaker 5: Do NFL postgame. Yeah, I'm doing a postgame show.

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Speaker 7: Okay, okay, all right. That's a brain that we all

757
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Speaker 7: desire on NFL Network. Baldy. That's why we use you

758
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Speaker 7: every Thursday.

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Speaker 6: And let's talk about this game right here, and what

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Speaker 6: we've seen from this Kansas City Chiefs offense.

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Speaker 7: What I'd like to just throw out there we have

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Speaker 7: two weeks left. Is this who they are?

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Speaker 5: Baldy, Yeah, I don't see it getting fixed.

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Speaker 15: You know they they're amongst the bottom feeders right now.

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Speaker 15: Just explosive place. They used to lead the league in

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Speaker 15: that category. Just play the twenty yards of war. They

767
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Speaker 15: can't get explosive place. So what happens when you can?

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Speaker 15: You know, you're relying on gadgets, any kind of penalty,

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Speaker 15: whether it's lining up all sides or a hold, they

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Speaker 15: just get magnified.

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Speaker 5: Because it used to be if it was second or

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Speaker 5: twenty Patrick Wilhold.

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Speaker 15: Would do his magic. They get an explosive play. Now,

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Speaker 15: just the basics right now, Just the basics right here.

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Speaker 15: Travis Kelcey dropping his past we all saw the other day.

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Speaker 15: You know, it's and then the tackle position, you know,

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Speaker 15: whether it's Jawan or the rookie on the other side.

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Speaker 15: I mean, they have struggled all year long, and so

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Speaker 15: you know, the Raiders just kicked their butt up front.

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Speaker 5: And it was it was more than just Max Crosby.

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Speaker 5: It was Malcolm Goes.

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Speaker 15: It was a bunch of different guys that physically won

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Speaker 15: that line of scrimmage on that Christmas Day game.

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Speaker 3: So you know ball they're playing the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: I mean, lou Anrumo has done some things, you know

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Speaker 4: against this Chiefs offense. I mean, this is not a

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Speaker 4: get well game, so to speak for the Chiefs. This

788
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Speaker 4: is gonna be a very tough game. And one of

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Speaker 4: the things I've been noticing besides the receivers just having issues,

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Speaker 4: is DB's are.

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Speaker 3: Just lining up and getting hands on them. I mean,

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Speaker 3: is there.

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Speaker 4: Anything I mean the lack I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 4: if it's a lack of motion or whatever, but what

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Speaker 4: can Mahomes do or what can they do with this

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Speaker 4: offense to maybe spring some of these guys, to give

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Speaker 4: them windows for Mahomes to drop the ball into.

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Speaker 15: Well, it looks awfully stale, first of all. Looks it

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Speaker 15: looks like we've seen just about everything. You mean, the

800
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Speaker 15: gad just didn't work the other day. You know, they

801
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Speaker 15: kind of fumbled that away. But you know, just the

802
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Speaker 15: idea that there was a play in the game last

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Speaker 15: week which sort of personify the issues they have. This

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Speaker 15: play it usually it's with Kelsey, it could be with

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Speaker 15: anybody just why stick, you know, you just sort of

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Speaker 15: little stick route six yards turn around. It's a drive starter,

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Speaker 15: and Mahomes threw it one way and Racy Rice one

808
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Speaker 15: another way, and Mahomes is just looking at him like

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Speaker 15: we do this every day, Like this is what we

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Speaker 15: do to start drives. Just sit down on the zone

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Speaker 15: and when I saw them, you know, throw that ball

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Speaker 15: into the dirt and just miss that basic play. Like

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Speaker 15: literally day one installation, I go, they've got some real problems.

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Speaker 15: And I don't know if it's you know, concentration in practice,

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Speaker 15: if it's just lack of trust. I mean, it's hard

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Speaker 15: to say without being there, but you know, Andy Reid

817
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Speaker 15: has always been a tinker when things aren't working.

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Speaker 5: That guy could tink her with the best of them.

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Speaker 5: And I feel like he's trying to do that.

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Speaker 15: But at the same time, like they can't get plays

821
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Speaker 15: out on timing right now, So it's just all Mahomes

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Speaker 15: trying to extend plays and try to find something beyond

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Speaker 15: what it was drawn up to be.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's been remarkable, and we've seen the frustration on

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Speaker 6: the sideline from guys like Mahomes, guys like Travis Kelce.

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Speaker 7: I think you mentioned Andy Reid there.

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Speaker 6: Maybe the steadiness of Andy we know he never gets

828
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Speaker 6: too high or too low ever, is probably needed now

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Speaker 6: more than they may they have ever in some time.

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Speaker 6: Let's move to where Andy used to coach in the

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Speaker 6: Filadelphia and Jonathan Gannon is heading back there with his Cardinals.

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Speaker 6: And we've seen this defense in Philadelphia. Baldy have Sean

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Speaker 6: de Si now it's Matt Patricia. They got two guys

834
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Speaker 6: trying to run this defense since Jonathan Gannon left. What

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Speaker 6: can they fix as they come down the stretch into

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Speaker 6: the postseason that can maybe turn the corner for them

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Speaker 6: a little bit defensively?

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Speaker 15: Well, I mean, you know last week they give it

839
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Speaker 15: to sixty nine yard touchdown to Darius Slayton with under

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Speaker 15: six minutes ago to get them back in the game.

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Speaker 15: Like I don't know how they turned them loose exactly.

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Speaker 15: I mean it's it's kind of matchup zone and you

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Speaker 15: know the safety should be running with them and Slayton

844
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Speaker 15: gets right behind him, just like you know the week

845
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Speaker 15: before against Seattle. Why you're a man coverage in that

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Speaker 15: situation on third and ten they need a touchdown to

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Speaker 15: win the game and you let it go. I've given

848
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Speaker 15: up thirty one touchdown passes and so some of that

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Speaker 15: is okay.

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Speaker 5: The rush isn't nearly as good as it was a

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Speaker 5: year ago. We understand that.

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Speaker 15: You just look at the numbers and say the rush

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Speaker 15: isn't good enough, and then when they have blitz, they

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Speaker 15: haven't really been very good at just being stout on

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Speaker 15: the back end and kind of marrying good, good coverage

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Speaker 15: with it.

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Speaker 5: So Matt Patricia's kind of left going.

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Speaker 15: Well, you could just see like there's no rush there

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Speaker 15: and there's you know, Slayton right there getting behind a

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Speaker 15: wake and ship. I mean, you see it week in

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Speaker 15: week out right now, guys have too much time to throw.

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Speaker 5: The guys are wide open, and it's been a problem.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Bald, you know, we don't even talk about what's

864
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Speaker 4: going on in the inside linebacker spot. I mean, when

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Speaker 4: they play some of these teams, they'd like to drop

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Speaker 4: the ball off underneather can pop a run right there.

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Speaker 4: That has absolutely been an issue with just the depth

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Speaker 4: concerns that they have right now. But I want to

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Speaker 4: go to a team that plays good defense even the

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Speaker 4: way even though they're struggling. That's New England Patriots, and

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Speaker 4: this week the Buffalo Bills. You know, they play the

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Speaker 4: Bills in this office, and the way Buffalo is really

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Speaker 4: combining the run game and the pass game. We had

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Speaker 4: Gabe Davis on the show earlier. He talked about not

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Speaker 4: having not having games with catches because he's springing guys

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Speaker 4: in the run game when the when the Bills are

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Speaker 4: facing what the Patriots are doing the I mean, this

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Speaker 4: is not going to be a walkover for Buffalo as

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Speaker 4: well as I'm playing right now.

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Speaker 15: No, because it's it's just basic fundamentals. It's low pad

881
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Speaker 15: level at this time of the year. Guys start playing

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00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 15: too high. They don't. It's about using your hands, engaging,

883
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 15: shedding blocks, getting off blocks, protecting Juwan Bentley and the

884
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 15: linebackers at that level.

885
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 5: And so it starts with just the basics of defeating

886
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 5: the run.

887
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 15: You know, Denver couldn't run the ball against them last week,

888
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 15: hardly at all. That's what they wanted to do, but

889
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 15: you know it's hard to run it when it's third

890
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 15: and seven, and so yeah, they're really making teams one

891
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 15: dimensional right now with just the fundamentals of the game.

892
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 5: And it's across the board.

893
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 15: It's detrich wise, it's all the guys that have been

894
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 15: there bar more like, all these guys up front are

895
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 15: playing great two gap in defense, and the linebackers are

896
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 15: kind of nd safeties are free to kind of go

897
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 15: and roam and make these tackles and attack the line

898
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 15: of scrimmage. And you know, James Cook is having a

899
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 15: phenomenal season. They're running the ball a lot better, but

900
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 15: I don't see them just getting increases against this defense

901
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 15: the way they have and some of these other teams

902
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 15: they quickly ball.

903
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 4: Do you started this off with something I haven't heard

904
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 4: people talk about enough, and I'm glad you brought it

905
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 4: up at this point of the season. It's the fundamentals,

906
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 4: pad level and things like that when you look across

907
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 4: the league. Is this something that you're seeing with the

908
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 4: teams that aren't winning or the teams that are getting

909
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 4: leaky versus that? And why is that? Is it just

910
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 4: a fatigue of the season.

911
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 5: It's I think it's some fatigue.

912
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 15: It's some you know, it's week seventeen, and you know,

913
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 15: guys aren't putting pads on during the week, and it's

914
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 15: walked throughs, glorified walkthroughs, and just you know, they're just

915
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 15: playing too high.

916
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 5: They're blocking with their chests.

917
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 15: You know, I would say that when I watched Detroit

918
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 15: Lions right now, they don't follow that category. They come

919
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 15: off the ball and they're lower than the opponents and

920
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 15: they're moving bodies.

921
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 5: But generally, you know, like if you.

922
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 15: Watched the Indianapolis Colts last week try to run against Atlanta,

923
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 15: like they look like they were just way too high

924
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 15: against Atlanta, and they got their tackles back, defensive tackles back,

925
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 15: and what was of really good part of their offense

926
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 15: last week was not existed. And if I went back

927
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 15: and watch it and I just said, these guys, you know,

928
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 15: we're Lake Freeland whoever, they're playing too high right now

929
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 15: and it was too easy to underneath.

930
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 5: The pass ball.

931
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say and just take a guess here real

932
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 7: quick that.

933
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 6: Mike McDonald's group are not one of those groups that

934
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 6: are off playing with their pads too high lately.

935
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 15: Well, you know that's one. I mean, they just have

936
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 15: guys that it's almost impossible. And when you look at

937
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 15: you know, Pierce, and you look at Washington and some

938
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 15: of these guys up front, they're fire hydrants, like you

939
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 15: can't get underneath them. But you know, they play a

940
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 15: matchup zone. Teams will play parts of that, but they'll

941
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 15: play a matchup zone. And this is really what got

942
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 15: Rock Perdy in that first interception last week. They want

943
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 15: to play their safeties back. It's a zone concept, so

944
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 15: everybody has their eyes on the quarterback. Everybody sees the

945
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 15: ball delivered, and then they blitz out of that that

946
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 15: shell look of theirs with the two safeties high. And

947
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 15: really you have to keep running the against them. You

948
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 15: have to make them pay or saying okay, we're not

949
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 15: giving up the deep shots. We're gonna match up with

950
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 15: you as you expanded to your route combinations and hopefully

951
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 15: they break down, or.

952
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 5: You have to say, okay, you've got to throw the ball.

953
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 15: Like Matt Stafford's thought it right now, and like how

954
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 15: they ran the ball against the cole the Ravens a

955
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 15: couple of weeks ago, were Kyrin Williams really took advantage

956
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 15: of those safeties, you know, fifteen yards steep and they

957
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 15: ran the ball really good and then they got some

958
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 15: play action passes behind it. Stafford was deadly accurate. But

959
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 15: if you don't play like that, you're playing right into

960
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 15: their hands.

961
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 4: Baldi, this is such good stuff, man, like this is

962
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 4: stuff you just don't get. We appreciate you breaking down.

963
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 4: I mean some of these exquisite nuances. I mean, you know,

964
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 4: I really.

965
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 3: Really appreciate you and JP.

966
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 4: Don't too much barbecue or do any other things that

967
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 4: we're not going to mention on the show.

968
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 3: When you're in Kansas City.

969
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 7: Right to my face and enjoy day on TV.

970
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 3: Hey, but appreciate you, baldy, and have a happy new year.

971
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 3: Come up next, James, come up next. Leslie Fraser. He

972
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 3: was on the eighty five championship Bears.

973
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 4: He's coached in Super Bowls, and he's gonna tell us,

974
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 4: like we're sitting here with the Kansas City Chiefs, why

975
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 4: it is so hard to repeat as champion.

976
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 3: Next, that's the NFL Report.

977
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 7: Real cold.

978
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 6: Hey, it's James Palmer, and you're listening to the NFL

979
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 6: Report podcast along with myself and Steve Weisch. But remember,

980
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 6: if you want to see our beautiful faces, this is

981
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 6: a show at seven point fifteen Monday and Thursday at

982
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 6: seven fifteen pm Eastern, and we are on the NFL

983
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 6: app as well as fast streaming platforms. That's two B

984
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 6: that's Roku, that's Pluto. That's Peacock all of those platforms,

985
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 6: as well as the NFL dot Com slash NFL channel.

986
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 7: Find us all of those spots.

987
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 4: All right, back to the NFL Report, and James are

988
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 4: about to be joined by head coach Leslie Fraser, who

989
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 4: was with me Wednesday for the reveal of the Class

990
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 4: of twenty two twenty four fifteen finalist of the Pro

991
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 4: Football Hall of Fame. As you're seeing, there's Antonio Gates,

992
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 4: Devin Hester, Julius Pepper's, Reggie Wayne, friend of the show,

993
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 4: Andre Johnson. We've got Eric Allen, Yea, Jarry Evans, Patrick Willis,

994
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 4: Dwight Freeny, Fred Taylor, Willie Anderson, Jared Allen, who coach,

995
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 4: also coached Rodney Harrison, Tory Holt, just so many deserving people.

996
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 3: Coach, you did a great job on the show.

997
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 4: We really appreciate you joining us on our last show

998
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 4: of twenty twenty three.

999
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: But on that note, let's go back to yesterdyear.

1000
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 4: Right, you played on the world champion eighty five Chicago Bears.

1001
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 4: You've coached a Super Bowl championship team, and now we're

1002
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 4: seeing the Kansas City Chiefs kind.

1003
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 3: Of roll into the cliche.

1004
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 4: It is difficult to repeat, why is it so hard

1005
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 4: to get back, let alone win if you do.

1006
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, as you can imagine, there's so many factors involved,

1007
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 2: But one of those factors is you tend to lose

1008
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: good players when you are a team that has that

1009
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 2: type of success, you know, go to the Super Bowl,

1010
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl. You have a lot of guys

1011
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: that are really playing at a high level, and the

1012
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 2: teams that are a lesser are looking at your roster

1013
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: and because of salary cap constraints, it makes it difficult

1014
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: to keep players in place. A good example of this James.

1015
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 2: You remember in twenty sixteen when the Denver Broncos won

1016
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl and they would really carried by their defense,

1017
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 2: and they came back to next season to see there

1018
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: were only like five starters from that defense that was

1019
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: so dominant and doing that twenty sixteen season when they

1020
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,959
Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl. So so partner problem is being

1021
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 2: able to retain your guys, and in the chief case,

1022
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: a good example of that is a player like a

1023
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 2: Juju Schuster who was their top target at wide receiver.

1024
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: He had more receiving yards than anybody else, more receptions

1025
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: than anyone else. He was the leader in that receiver

1026
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: room and now you look at their receiver position and

1027
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 2: it's a disaster and it's really really tough for your offense.

1028
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: So that's an example of you know, being trying trying

1029
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 2: to keep your players, but because of the salary cap constraints,

1030
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: it makes it.

1031
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 5: Difficult to do.

1032
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: And that's all a part of the parity of the

1033
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: National Football League, which is what the league wants. I mean,

1034
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 2: they want parody, and you get that because of the cap.

1035
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 2: The other part of it is you have guys that

1036
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: are having career years when you when you win the

1037
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, that's usually the case. You have some guys

1038
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 2: that really perform at a high level. They want to

1039
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 2: get paid. I mean, it's my turn, you know, I

1040
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: want to get paid now. And because of uh, you know,

1041
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: the salary cap constraints. You know a lot of times

1042
00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: you can't pay those guys. And so the teams that

1043
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: usually have the most cap, or the team that aren't

1044
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: doing so well, they're able to poach some of your

1045
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 2: players that really help you to get to that Super Bowl.

1046
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: And generally, because of financial constraints, eternal.

1047
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 5: Win the league. Today.

1048
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,959
Speaker 2: Man, every off season, you know, you're losing about twenty

1049
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 2: twenty five players off your roster, So to try to

1050
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: come back and get that chemistry to get the team

1051
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 2: to work together like you did doing that Super Bowl season,

1052
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 2: it's a challenge. It's a major challenge. So it's a

1053
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: lot more difficult in today's NFL because of the salary

1054
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 2: cap and because of your inability to keep your players

1055
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 2: to come back and repeat again.

1056
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, I coach. I find that to be the biggest reason.

1057
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 6: I also find the reason of and I've heard this

1058
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 6: with Kansas City last year, their driving force was everyone

1059
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 6: telling them they can't win a Super Bowl without Tyreek Hill.

1060
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 6: It's almost that motivational carrit in front of them the

1061
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 6: entire season, driving them behind the scenes. And I've been

1062
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 6: told this year they don't really have one of those.

1063
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 6: They don't really have something that's pushing them and pushing

1064
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 6: them this season.

1065
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 7: It's kind of been something they're curious of if they find.

1066
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 6: Here at the end, let's talk about teams maybe that

1067
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 6: are not in contentional right on the edge. When you're

1068
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 6: looking at teams like say the Vikings, the Jags, the

1069
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 6: Texans teams also they're in but Bengals are right on

1070
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 6: the edge. What do you do when you're one of

1071
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 6: those teams on the fringe or one of those teams

1072
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 6: maybe right on the outside, to keep coaching and keeping

1073
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 6: your team motivated when you're on the outside of the

1074
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 6: playoff picture kind of just almost looking.

1075
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: At well, that's motivation in this self. The fact that

1076
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: you are playing meaningful games in December. That's the mattrum

1077
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: with every team. You know, you're you're hoping that when

1078
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 2: we get to December, Man, we're playing meaningful games. By that,

1079
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: what I mean is we're playing games that have playoff implications,

1080
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: and those teams are now they've got some hurdles that

1081
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: they've got overcome, you know, more so because injured than anything.

1082
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: But that's a motivating factor for your team that we

1083
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 2: may not control our destiny. We're kind of in the hunt,

1084
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: but if we can win out, who knows what might happen.

1085
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: So as a as a coach, I mean, that's what

1086
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 2: you're preaching to the players to try to keep that

1087
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: carrot in front of them that we have a chance.

1088
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 2: But we got to come to work every single day

1089
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: and we got to bleed as a unit. Now, you

1090
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: need great leadership in the locker room because it can't

1091
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 2: just be the coach is talking about this. It's got

1092
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: to be your locker room has to be echoing the coach.

1093
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 2: So you need strong leadership. But that's that's it. I

1094
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 2: mean you, I mean that's your carrot.

1095
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, Coach, that's a great point. Player.

1096
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Speaker 4: Accountability often accompany success. That's a huge part of it.

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Speaker 3: Coach. We promised when we bring you back in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four, we're gonna give you more bandwidth.

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Speaker 7: Here.

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Speaker 4: We gotta wrap it up because we got to get

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Speaker 4: out of here, but thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: Have a happy new year, and JP.

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Speaker 4: As we wrap up our shoe at twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 4: we want to remind everybody if you're watching, we'll be

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Speaker 4: Mondays and Thursdays, seven fifteen Easter your time on the

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Speaker 4: NFL app and on the fast channels. But we will

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Speaker 4: be back on Tuesday of next week because you want,

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Speaker 4: you want to have a new year to recover, and

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Speaker 4: next Thursday and then JP, when I wish you a

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Speaker 4: happy new year and that you and Baldi don't get

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Speaker 4: down to be tough in Kansas City.

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Speaker 6: We'll be five. We'll tear care and see apart. Steve,

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Speaker 6: see you on Tuesday, buddy

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Speaker 3: All right, everybody