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Speaker 1: The you know, obviously we heard all day Friday, all

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Speaker 1: it's really interesting. The report said he kept a very

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Speaker 1: low profile at the ownership meetings. He's technically not even

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Speaker 1: involved in day to day operations. His wife is. That

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Speaker 1: was part of the agreement reached from the last incident

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Speaker 1: with the sexual allegations and the toxic work environment. Now

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Speaker 1: you've got I'm telling you, if this House and Oversight Committee,

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Speaker 1: fine something like hard evidence. You messing with other billionaires. Money.

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Speaker 1: Watch how swift the action is. And watch how swift.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how fast a thing like that moves.

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Speaker 1: Seriously not to but I'm sorry to interrupted not to

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Speaker 1: mention the fact, Steve, this is a team that is

437
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Speaker 1: not realizing it's full revenue earning potential either. Fifty one

438
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Speaker 1: thousand average attendance last year at Washington home games, thirty

439
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Speaker 1: first in the league in a top ten market. Yeah,

440
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Speaker 1: that's not good either. Now some of that and and

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Speaker 1: some of that is attributed also to ownership, because people

442
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Speaker 1: are fed up. Rumors are saying he has not he

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Speaker 1: has not maintained the stadium to NFL standards. He's trying

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Speaker 1: to get the stadium to be so decrepit that they

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Speaker 1: have to give him a new state. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's a political move, which you know that

447
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Speaker 1: you almost have to say. He kind of shrug your shoulders,

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Speaker 1: say everybody you know kind of think that, right, So, uh,

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00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 1: particularly in a privately owned stadium, so I I'm I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I just I just really feel like, um,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be an interesting I don't We're not

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Speaker 1: the last week. We're never gonna know exactly what happens

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Speaker 1: and who said what and why it happened. But we're

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Speaker 1: gonna see the results, no question. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: public result. All I'm saying. If the Feds are involved

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Speaker 1: and they find something, he's he's done. You and I've

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Speaker 1: talked about this before. You do not. They don't get

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Speaker 1: brought up on federal charges and get out of them

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Speaker 1: once the Feds come in, As you said, they don't

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Speaker 1: waste their time. I don't want to waste time in

461
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Speaker 1: cases they can't win. Right. If they're bringing charges, it's

462
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: because they have overwhelming evidence and you are going to jail.

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Speaker 1: That's it. I think it's I can't think of the

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Speaker 1: last person that got off of federal charges. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it's ever happened in my lifetime. If they

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Speaker 1: bring federal charge, which you're done, which they haven't done.

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Speaker 1: Stick brought federal no, no, no, they're just starting the investigation.

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00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 1: But now they're looking into these financial misdeed allegations, right,

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Speaker 1: and then and here's the thing. If if he's here's

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Speaker 1: the problem with the fence. If if he's withholding money

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Speaker 1: from his fellow owners, fellow owners, it breaks the rules

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Speaker 1: of the league. Yeah, it might be breached a contract,

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Speaker 1: but it's not a federal fence, do you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? It's that's why, that's why, that's why none

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Speaker 1: of the guys who cheat in the NFL worry about

476
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Speaker 1: it is breaking the rules, it's not breaking the law.

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Speaker 1: There's a big difference. I wonder if there was a

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Speaker 1: big difference. I wonder if there's a way where federal

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Speaker 1: investigators can label it something that would carry a criminal charge,

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Speaker 1: whether it's embezzlement because you're technically keeping the money from

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Speaker 1: yourself and not distributing it to your fellow owners. I mean,

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Speaker 1: does that fall under the guys who embelzement and embezzlement?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, um, but I would imagine they're gonna

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Speaker 1: try to find something to pin on him, especially if

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Speaker 1: they have overwhelming Evan, here's the thing too, I'm and

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm a you know you and I

487
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: hear we're you know, we're salt of the earth down

488
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: down at the bottom of the food chain. So I

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Speaker 1: love how you've been describing us, right great at the

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Speaker 1: highest level. I don't know what the FEDS may think

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Speaker 1: or may not, because you're talking about the National Football League.

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00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: You're talking about a marquee, landmark case um for whatever

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Speaker 1: federal prosecutor gets this put on his desk. So they're

494
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Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna get some mileage out of this in

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Speaker 1: their career. They're gonna they're gonna comb through this, Uh,

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Speaker 1: all of the anybody with any political aspirations, whether it's

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Speaker 1: a junior senator or whatever congressman, would like to have,

498
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: not even the bigger than government, right, would like to

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Speaker 1: appear tough on crime by taking out a guy who's

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Speaker 1: perceived to be a bad guy anyway. Yeah, who's seen

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Speaker 1: largely as a villain, even in his own home city. Right,

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Speaker 1: So they they're gonna get looked at. Yeah, this is

503
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: merely the beginning of the icebeag opening salvo of the

504
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: long dirty battle. We do have a Twitter conversation to

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Speaker 1: get to today. What final move by the Bills would

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00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: make your off season complete? And that doesn't just mean

507
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Speaker 1: free agency. It could be something that happens later this

508
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Speaker 1: month in the draft as we are now in April,

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Speaker 1: so you can let us know at eight oh three

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Speaker 1: five fifty one eighty eight, five fifty two, five fifty,

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00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: or you can hit us up on the tweet sheet

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00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: at one Bills Live. We do have some Bills news

513
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: and notes to bring your way as well. In addition,

514
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Speaker 1: we have some other happenings around the league, including some

515
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Speaker 1: very interesting veteran cornerbacks still sitting out there without a

516
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: new free agent contract. We'll get into all of that

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Speaker 1: when we return here on One Bills Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Kalata Health. It's Buffalo Bills right, all right. Welcome back

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00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: to one Bills Live. Chris Brownstein, tasker with you, and

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00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: some other news and notes we wanted to get to.

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00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: There are a host of veteran corners still sitting out

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Speaker 1: there in free agency. The biggest name is probably Stefan Gilmore.

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Speaker 1: We learned last week that the Bills kick the tires

524
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Speaker 1: on Patrick Peterson before he ultimately resigned with the Vikings

525
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: for one year and four million dollars. I think Gilmore

526
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Speaker 1: would probably cost more in the six to eight million

527
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Speaker 1: dollars range per season on a short deal, which it's

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Speaker 1: probably too rich. For Buffalo with the money they have

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Speaker 1: available right now. But hypothetically, Steve, let's just have fun

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Speaker 1: for a second, Hypothetically your thoughts on Gilmore and just

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Speaker 1: the idea, as remote as it might be, of returning

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Speaker 1: to the Bills for a second go round. He probably

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00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: would not mind coming back and playing for Buffalo, no question.

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Speaker 1: He would love to come back and play and maybe

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Speaker 1: try and win a ring. He's a perfect fit because

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Speaker 1: he knows the score here in Buffalo. He would be

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Speaker 1: probably surprised and pleasantly surprised and shocked at the change

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Speaker 1: that has happened since he left. Yeah, he'd do it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he'd have an issue with it. I

540
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: don't think the team would obviously like it. I mean,

541
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: the guy can play. He's a really good corner now.

542
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: He's long in the tooth, no question, He's not the

543
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: player he once was, but his guile and his savvy

544
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: would make more than make up for that. He'd be

545
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Speaker 1: a great addition in the locker room. As we always knew,

546
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: he was a really strong guy in the locker rooms,

547
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: small and self motivated. Smart. He's a real pro and

548
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,080
Speaker 1: he earned every cent of a big, big contract he

549
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: signed with the New England Patriots, so not to mention

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Speaker 1: getting two rings in the process. That's right, And so

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Speaker 1: he's I don't Yeah, I'm I'm all about it. It's

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Speaker 1: a great if you could fit him under if he

553
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: came back here to play, if you could fit him

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Speaker 1: under the cap, and he I'm sure he would fit

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00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: in culturally, and yes, in the he'd fit in the

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00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: locker room. He'd give you some help in the division.

557
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: Patriots won't be as good without him, even though he's

558
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: probably not gonna be there anyway, and he could give

559
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: you some insights to some of their personnel on that

560
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,479
Speaker 1: game when you know you run around and match up

561
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Speaker 1: with those guys. So I think it's great. That's the

562
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: kind of guy you need to see. If you're me,

563
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Speaker 1: if if if I'm the GM, I think you need

564
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Speaker 1: another one of those one year guys who's coming in

565
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: to try a little something to prove. And Steph Gilmour

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Speaker 1: fits it to a t. And it's just at the

567
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: perfect spot of perfect timing for a team like Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Now that just because I say all that, I think

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Speaker 1: the possibilities are really remote. Yeah, I do too. This

570
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: thing he's still going to command a decent buck, and

571
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: it's money that the bills just don't have right now. Um,

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00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 1: you'd have to move veterans off the roster just to

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Speaker 1: get him in here. I think, to fit the money

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Speaker 1: under I guess is what I'm set now. You know,

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Speaker 1: he may, you know, he may shock everybody's seat. He

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Speaker 1: takes a veteran minimum deal to come to Buffalo because

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00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: he thinks he's going to win it. But he's he's

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00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: made you know, obviously we know he's made a pile

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Speaker 1: of money. Um, maybe it means something him personally to

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Speaker 1: come back and do that. I would that would surprise

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Speaker 1: me more than yeah, that would Yeah. I mean he

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Speaker 1: got because he's got a he had got a market value.

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Speaker 1: He had the good fortune of being traded to Charlotte,

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Speaker 1: which was a stone's throw from his house. He grew

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Speaker 1: up in rock Hill, South Carolina, which is literally just

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Speaker 1: over the state line. If I remember right, having done

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00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: this drive a few times, you literally pass Bank of

588
00:33:53,320 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: America's Stadium on seventy seven going south, and a half

589
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: hour later, maybe even less, you're in South Carolina and

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Speaker 1: rock Hill is the first city you hit off seventy seven,

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Speaker 1: playing close to home after winning two rings might carry

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00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: more weight than anything else, even if he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: a chance to win in Carolina, which looks like he doesn't.

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Speaker 1: If he stays there and he's, like I said, he's

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Speaker 1: not gonna he doesn't need to sign for a veteran

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00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: minimum deal just to do because he's he's got a

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Speaker 1: market value. I mean there's some even now at thirty two,

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Speaker 1: he's he can play, and he's got some cache and

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00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: some ability to give a team. Speaking of you want

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00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: to pay for that? Yeah. Speaking of cornerbacks, LSU cornerback

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Speaker 1: and draft prospect Derek Stingley Junior is known as one

602
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: of the top corners in the draft. It's basically Sauce

603
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: Gardner than him by many accounts. He has reportedly recovered

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Speaker 1: fully from his Liz Frank foot injury and will do

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Speaker 1: all the drills during his pro day on Wednesday this week,

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Speaker 1: according to a source, a month after doctor Anderson, a

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Speaker 1: renowned foot surgeon, cleared him, Stingley has reportedly been running

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Speaker 1: fast in training. That's according to NFL Networks ian Rappaport.

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Speaker 1: So the interesting thing about Stingley is his very mercurial

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Speaker 1: college career got off to a flying start his first

611
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Speaker 1: two years in an LSU uniform, super productive plays on

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Speaker 1: the ball, just did everything, and then his last year

613
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Speaker 1: was just it was missing something very inconsistent, not nearly

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Speaker 1: like the previous two seasons. So it's raised some question

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00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: marks and if he performs admirably, it is pro day

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Speaker 1: does well in interviews. I think you could go a

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Speaker 1: long way to convincing people, okay, that one year of

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Speaker 1: inconsistency was more of an anomaly than anything else. And

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Speaker 1: this kid will be a stud in the league. So

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00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: where where teams come down on that is going to

621
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 1: be very interesting because he's not an easy case because

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00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: of that fact. So, yeah, Liz Frank is nothing serious.

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Speaker 1: It takes time to heal and you got to be

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00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: patient with it. Um. That's the horse rider injury, right, Yeah.

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00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: The people who rode horses used to suffer from that

626
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: foot injury when they would fall off a horse and

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00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 1: their foot would get caught in the stirrup and they

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00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: would suffer that that that's where the name comes from.

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Speaker 1: It's when you sprain the arch or your foot. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's the big bone that comes back from your

631
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: big toe right where that knuckle hits in the middle

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00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: above your arch that those ligaments get strained. I had one.

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00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 1: It was a ten week injury right during the season.

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00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: It's a it's a crusher because you can't rock up

635
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: on your toe to push off and you lose explosion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you can't. Yeah, and it's got to be you know,

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Speaker 1: it's one of those you can't do anything until it's

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent, and you can't get one hundred percent

639
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: until unless you don't do anything. So yeah, there's no

640
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 1: way you're playing through that. Yeah, you can't. You don't.

641
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: I mean you could play through it, but you're not

642
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: gonna be the same player, no, because then you're then

643
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: you're asking for you know, long term problems. So yeah,

644
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: it's it's unfortunate injury, but it's not it's not chronic.

645
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: Once you're healed, you're okay and just move forward. So

646
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: good for him for getting out of it. But you're right, Um,

647
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: there's always an enormous amount of question marks with these

648
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 1: guys coming out. Rarely do you have a guy who

649
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: answers all the questions right away if they're not on

650
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: field questions, their character questions or work ethic questions or

651
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 1: commitment questions, or you know all of that stuff. Yeah,

652
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: so yeah, Stingley's gonna come in with You know, all

653
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: these guys got one or two little awards, but stingy

654
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,399
Speaker 1: guys like Stingley and the top guy, Sauce Gardner, those

655
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: guys have fewer and smaller awards than other guys, but

656
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: they're still unknowns. First day of offseason conditioning program for

657
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: four NFL clubs that have new head coaches. By rule,

658
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,800
Speaker 1: they are permitted to start sooner. Those four teens starting

659
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: today with classroom work and stuff like that with their coaches, Miami, Chicago,

660
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: New Orleans, and the New York Giants. As today is

661
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: day one for Brian Dable as a head coach with

662
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: his players. The Bills begin their offseason program on April nineteenth,

663
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,959
Speaker 1: and it's two weeks from tomorrow. The first two weeks

664
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: of the program, you can strength conditioning and rehab. That's it.

665
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: He's come in to work out and they can do

666
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: some classroom work out. That's two weeks of that, and

667
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: then three weeks after that you can go on field

668
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: and you can have individual player instruction. You can you know,

669
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: coaches can be out there and go through drills and

670
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: team practices. But you can't have live contact and you

671
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: can't compete. You can't go offense against defense, and no

672
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: drill work like one on ones even or anything like that.

673
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: You can't go an offensive player against a defensive player

674
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 1: and then technique right, and then that's for three weeks,

675
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 1: so you're at five weeks in. Then after five weeks

676
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: in you go over. You go to Phase three, which

677
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: is next a four week period and you can have

678
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: ten days of organized team activity, you know OTAs no

679
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: live contacts ever permitted, but you can go seven on seven.

680
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: You can go nine on seven, which is a seven

681
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: on seven is passing, nine on seven is running, and

682
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: eleven on eleven drills are permitted, but you can't go live.

683
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 1: You can't be in pads or any of that stuff.

684
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: So it goes, you know, step it up, and this

685
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: really is it's you know, nine weeks of stuff and

686
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: I'll say this, don't You'll have guys that come in

687
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: and through with permission to the club and saying just

688
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: in the club, all, okay, it's no big but you'll

689
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: have for a team like Buffalo, you'll have ninety five

690
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: percent attendance and usually more than that, but you'll have

691
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: one or two guys says, listen, I gotta go to

692
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 1: my brother's wedding. I gotta go to the you know,

693
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: I gotta go this. I got my mom's birthday. Got

694
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: the guys will take a couple of days during that

695
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: nine weeks, say Eleen, I gotta go do this. I

696
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: gotta do that, particularly veteran players. But then when they

697
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 1: get into that last four or five weeks, I'll start

698
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: to You'll get, no question, you'll get high nineties attendance.

699
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: And that's all across the league, not just here in Buffalo.

700
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: Let's go to the phones at eight oh three, five

701
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: fifty one, eight eight five fifty two, five fifty where

702
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: we are asking you what final move by the Bills

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00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: would make your off season complete. We lead off today

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Speaker 1: with Judy and Buffalo. What do you got first, Judy, Well,

705
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: earlier you're talking about the diminishing role of running backs

706
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and I want to know if Zack

707
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: Moss has a future with the Bills. He seems to

708
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 1: be underutilized. He disappeared there the latter part of the season, right,

709
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: So what do you think? Yeah, it's a good question.

710
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: I will say this, Judy, I think will I think

711
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 1: that picture will come into greater focus based on what

712
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: the Bills do between now and the end of the draft.

713
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: We know that they obviously signed Duke Johnson in free agency,

714
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: who I would probably argue is now the best pass

715
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: catching back on the roster, at least in terms of

716
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: proven track record at the NFL level, So that could

717
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: potentially impact Mosses time on the field. If they draft

718
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: a running back as well, he's gonna be fighting for

719
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: a job. Yeah, he will. I mean, I think about it.

720
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary, Duke Johnson a draft choice, and Zach Moss

721
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: they're probably not keeping it well. I mean, and Taiwan

722
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: Jones is still here for special teams. So well, here's

723
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: the thing, I mean, getting crowded quick. Zach Moss is

724
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: just like everybody else they're bringing in competition. They're gonna

725
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: make him compete for it. He's not just because he

726
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: was drafted last year doesn't mean he's automatic, right, So

727
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: he's got to He's got to show up and show

728
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: up big to keep his job because he's gonna be

729
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: in competition. Just like last year. They kept four guys active,

730
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: and it would be Devin Singletary, Duke Johnson, presumably Taiwan

731
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: Jones and another and who the other is. Zach Moss

732
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: is in the mix as well as maybe a draft

733
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: pick or certainly they're going to have another running back

734
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: on the roster for training camp, no matter where they

735
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: get him from. Yeah, Zach Moss's future with the Buffalo

736
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: Bills is up to him here. Yeah, it's up to him. Man.

737
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: This is you're three, right, Yeah, you're three. Let's make

738
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: or break here, I mean yeah, And it also stick

739
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: and say I'll say this too, A little bit is

740
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: of it is up to the Bills as well, because

741
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: if if you really want to upgrade your running back

742
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: position and you take a guy in the second round,

743
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: third round, that's that may dictate as much as anything

744
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: Zach Moss's future, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, depending on

745
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: who they add and when they add him, and it

746
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: may come down to what he has already showed him

747
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: and if that's enough and what they really think of him.

748
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: Deep down, break time for us here, more of your

749
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: phone calls when we return here on one Bills Live present,

750
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:20,959
Speaker 1: anybody colloid to health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right.

751
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: Here we are face to face one Bills Live here

752
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: to take more of your phone calls as we're asking

753
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: you what final move by the Bills would make your

754
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: off season complete? Eighth, three, five fifty to jump on board,

755
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,840
Speaker 1: and we go now to Bob in Rochester. What do

756
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 1: you got first? Bob, You're on one Bills Live. First

757
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: of all, I love the show, guys. Thanks and Steve,

758
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: you belong in the hall. There you go, Thank you

759
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: very much. Well, here's the final move. This is what

760
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: I saw on the internet this morning, and I love

761
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: this trade for the Bills. Can't wait. First, they give

762
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: up their first and third round draft picks this year. Okay,

763
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: they give up their first and fifth round draft picks

764
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: next year for the seventh overall pick of the draft

765
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: to the New York Giants. They get the Giants pick,

766
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: and they draft Sauce Gardener. I'd love to hear what

767
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: you guys have to say about that. That is a

768
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 1: lot to give up to a third and a fifth

769
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,959
Speaker 1: for sauce Gardeners one two ones, a third and a fifth.

770
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if I like that for the Bills,

771
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: not for a corner. They didn't even give up that

772
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: for Josh Allen Um. If you if if I don't know,

773
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: what if you could give up one first and a

774
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: third and a fifth, I don't think that they could

775
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: move from twenty five to seven. Well how about yeah,

776
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 1: I don't even. I don't know. I don't give up

777
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: two ones. I don't know if I'm doing that for

778
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 1: a corner, that's my issue. Wow, Yeah, that's a premium, certainly.

779
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: I'll say this though, Bob. The giants might think about

780
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: doing it for who one? Yeah, two one's a three

781
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 1: out of five? Yeah, the giants might say, yeah, we'll

782
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,280
Speaker 1: do it, um, But then you have your other lockdown

783
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: corner opposite trait. Yeah, and you have no first round

784
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: picks for two years, for three years, and this year

785
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: and next well you're getting sauce this year, so you

786
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 1: have your giving up a one. I get it. Yeah,

787
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 1: given up one, one, three and of five. You're gonna

788
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: need that one next year though, because you're not gonna

789
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 1: be able to pay everybody that's coming up on news.

790
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: You have to be bold to go for it. Well, yeah,

791
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, Bob. Bob pushing all the

792
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: cards to him. All the chips are in the middle

793
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: of the table. For Bob, I like it though, But

794
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: I see, I hear you, Bob, I get it, and uh,

795
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: you know, I you know, if if this, if they

796
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: think this, Sauce gardeners the guy, and he be it.

797
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: By all accounts, he's the guy. Um problem is that

798
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: Jets might take him at four. So even you don't,

799
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: you don't pull until you're on the clock, Until the

800
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: giants are on the clock. I gotta know your guy

801
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: is there. Yeah, So okay, Bob, I'll get that. If

802
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 1: they do it, I'm all in. But I am if

803
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: they do it, I am all in for it. But

804
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that scares me. I can't see you're

805
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: giving up a one basically a one and a three

806
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: and a five for Sauce Gardener because you just, you know,

807
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: like if you it was as if you gave up

808
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: the one and they're swapping one, the three and the

809
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 1: five and you're swapping the one. So okay, yeah, I'm yeah,

810
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: if they do it, that's great, But man, oh man,

811
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: I think that's a little steep. I'm sorry, but yeah, okay,

812
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: it's creative. I would that would fall into going for it. Yeah. Yeah,

813
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: that's that's an all in situation. That's an all in

814
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: let's go to Isaiah on a cell. What do you

815
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: got for us? Isaiah? Yeah, I was just um final

816
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 1: moving for me would be uh, a linebacker. You know,

817
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: I feel like we need a linebacker, and well I

818
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: think everybody's of a certain value or cornerback. But I

819
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: don't think this regime, you know what I mean, never

820
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: really did they don't, you know what I mean, It's

821
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: not that much of a value, even though they got

822
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: Trey White, but that was just to start it off,

823
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: will start the air off. But I think they can

824
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: make corners. I think a linebacker if like Devin Way

825
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 1: to drop or Nakobe Jane something in there, I would

826
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: like that. I think I think you want do you

827
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:29,239
Speaker 1: want a linebacker early? Like round one? Yeah? Okay, all right,

828
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 1: all right. I think it is under the radar positional

829
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: need for this team, especially with Tremaine Edmonds in a

830
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: Walkee year. So yeah, you know you've got it. I

831
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: think it's a cons you know, GM's always have to

832
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: think a year ahead. And if for some reason you

833
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: and the Tremaine Edmonds camp can't agree on a contract extension,

834
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: where does that leave you. That's a question that GM

835
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: Brandon beat undoubtedly has asked himself and he may have

836
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: to plan accordingly in the draft. I don't think Devin

837
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: Lloyd is there at twenty five. However, I think Nakobe

838
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: Dean could be just by virtue of the fact that

839
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 1: he is considered to be an undersized prospect. He's five

840
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: ten in change to twenty something. The guy's got some

841
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 1: of the I think he's got the best instincts in

842
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: the draft at the linebacker position. He ran that Georgia defense.

843
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: I mean, he knew what was coming and when and

844
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: was doing it all the time. Can he get all

845
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: the way down there? I think it's possible because he's

846
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 1: not an ideal size prospect. So even though he's ranked

847
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: twelve in the board that our MSGU viewers are looking at,

848
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: I think he could get down there. I don't know

849
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 1: if he quite makes it to Buffalo at twenty five,

850
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: but he might be in the range. And I gotta say,

851
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 1: linebacker is not a high first round type of player

852
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: to pick. I mean, you know, the Bill's got Tremaine Edmonds,

853
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: but you know he turned into it. He turned into

854
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: a three time pro bowler and him and you know,

855
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:59,839
Speaker 1: he's the lynchpin of the front seven. So yeah, Yeah,

856
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: that's that's a little difficult to reduplicate. Yeah, he could

857
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: be there, he could be there. I don't know that

858
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: that's where i'd go if I'm there, depends on the

859
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: board and who's left on there. I think the Bills

860
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 1: a guy like Dean who doesn't tick all they the

861
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 1: physical boxes. I think the Bills are more into physical

862
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 1: traits up that high in the draft. Yeah, we have

863
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: to take a break here because when we come back

864
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: our number two of the show, we're going to be

865
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: joined by NFL writer for the Boston Globe, Ben Volan,

866
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: who has been covering the Patriots as well as the

867
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: NFL at large. We'll talk to him about the DeVante

868
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: Parker trade over the weekend for the Pats, among other

869
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: things within the division. Next here on One Bill's Live,

870
00:49:42,880 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at a

871
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields. Kind

872
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: of unique. He was kind of a dual role player,

873
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: Steve Steve a blimp. We're not even in the straded

874
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: here of normalcy here, all right, our number two here

875
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 1: One Bills Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and

876
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: please to be joined now by NFL writer for the

877
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: Boston Globe and a guy that has been able to

878
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: enjoy his offseason, as recently his last week as he

879
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 1: got into some South Florida sunshine at the owners meetings.

880
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: It's Ben voland joining us here on one bills Live.

881
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: Thanks for giving us some time, ben m Were you

882
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: there long enough to get some vitamin D and tan

883
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: up the skin a little tan or burn in my

884
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: case the Boston winters I very kind for me. Don't worry.

885
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: I did sneak my golf clubs down there. I did

886
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: get a couple of rounds there. Oh no, I mean

887
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: went in Palm Beach. You gotta do it right. So

888
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: and for a change, like there was not much going

889
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: on with the Patriots. We didn't have to deal with

890
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: is Tom Brady leaving or a free agency spending spree

891
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,919
Speaker 1: or any sort of controversy. He's been a very quiet offseason. Yeah,

892
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: up until this last weekend. Davanta Parker made a little

893
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: bit of a splash. And the Patriots have done it before.

894
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 1: We mentioned even the West Welker thing. The Dolphins Patriots

895
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: have done had dealings before with this kind of player.

896
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 1: What does it mean, is that how big a ripple

897
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 1: does this make for the Patriots with Davanta Parker signing.

898
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: It is interesting in that the trade barely has caused

899
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: a ripple in Miami. I think the fans there's so much,

900
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: so much excitement over the receivers they did get that,

901
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: you know, there's a sense of just moving on and

902
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 1: being done with Davanta Parker. And I didn't sense any

903
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: I don't sense any frustration or anything that. You know,

904
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: this is a significant move in Miami, whereas in New

905
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 1: England it's like, hey, they got a guy on the

906
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: cheap that could be really good. And the Patriots have

907
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,280
Speaker 1: seen the very best of DeVante Parker. He's got eleven

908
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 1: career one hundred yard games and three of them are

909
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,479
Speaker 1: against the Patriots, including he had a huge performance in

910
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: the final game of the twenty nineteen season. He had

911
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: like eight for one thirty seven. The Dolphins pulled off

912
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: a big upset. It costs the Patriots the first round

913
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: or the first round buy in the playoffs, devastating loss.

914
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 1: And he just had this huge game over Stefan Gilmour.

915
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: So if the Patriots get that DeVante Parker, it's a

916
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: great addition, I think he's most likely going to be

917
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 1: taking the roster spot of Nikil Harry. It's probably who

918
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: they wanted Nikkil Harry to be the big physical guy

919
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: on the outside, but now after three seasons, it just

920
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 1: it hasn't worked out. So I assume DeVante Parker takes

921
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: that role in the offense of just a big physical

922
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 1: guy can catch a lot of jump balls, red zone

923
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: target for Mac Jones. You know, they have a speed

924
00:52:54,840 --> 00:53:00,320
Speaker 1: guy in Agalore, and slot guys in Bourne and Jacobeyers

925
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: and the tight ends hunter Henry John new Smith. Now

926
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: they've got a big physical guy on the outside in

927
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: DeVante Parker. So in a best case scenario, there's a

928
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 1: guy who had twelve hundred yards receiving in twenty nineteen.

929
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: He's also a guy that's it seems like he's never healthy.

930
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: He's been always banged up, missing games. He missed seven

931
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: games last year due to various injuries. So certainly some

932
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: risk there with the Patriots, but they definitely needed to

933
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 1: make some move and I think they probably got better

934
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: around Mac Jones this offseason. Yeah, I mean, I don't

935
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: think there's any question he's already the best physical traits

936
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:40,919
Speaker 1: receiver on the roster walking in the door. Were they

937
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: envisioning him to be a true number one receiver or

938
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: does Belichick not really worry about a receiver pecking order

939
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I don't think they look at it

940
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: as one, two, three, four, as much as we want

941
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: this type of player, you know, like DeVante Parker and

942
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 1: Jacob Myers and Kendrick Bourne are all very different body

943
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: types and different types of receivers. I don't expect Parker

944
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: to be the high volume guy. I still think that's Myers,

945
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: probably Hunter Henry, probably the running back, whether that's James

946
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: White or someone else. You know, Parker isn't going to

947
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 1: be the guy getting ten targets a game, but someone

948
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: in the red zone. You can target someone who can

949
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: win fifty fifty balls and you know, to kill. Harry

950
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: did have a pretty He played a lot of snaps

951
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 1: last year. He didn't get him any targets, but he

952
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,880
Speaker 1: still they still had him in the game as a

953
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 1: bigger run blocker and things of that nature. So Parker

954
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: will get his opportunities. But again, the health thing is

955
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: key because he just has really had trouble staying healthy

956
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: throughout his career, and you know at this point seven

957
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 1: eight years in, it's almost like, you know, this is

958
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,080
Speaker 1: the player that you are. So I think the Patriots

959
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: are taking a little bit of a gamble, but when healthy,

960
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,479
Speaker 1: he's a very good receiver. You mentioned it at the top.

961
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 1: You know, the spending spree of the Patriots went on

962
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: a year ago. Give us a one year you're grade

963
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: for that? How that went? I know John U. Smith

964
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: was a little bit of a disappointment, didn't see too

965
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 1: much playing time. What about that spending spree and how

966
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: the success or failure of that spree last year at

967
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 1: this time for the Patriots affected this year's free agency. Yeah,

968
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: I'd probably give it about a B minus. And you know,

969
00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,959
Speaker 1: through November it was looking great and then it's even

970
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:23,319
Speaker 1: really kind of fell apart in December and January. You

971
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: guys saw it, you know firsthand obviously, you know, like

972
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:29,799
Speaker 1: a guy like Matthew Judon was phenomenal for first three

973
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: months of the seasons and then didn't have a sack

974
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: over the final six games. Mac Jones totally hit a wall.

975
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: I think the weapons. So you know, this is a

976
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: team that I still see as being far away from

977
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: from the Bills. I don't you know, last year, clearly

978
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,720
Speaker 1: they I think they spent two years worth the free agency,

979
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: a lot of the deals, you know, Nelson Agaloor, Johnny

980
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: Smith two three year guarantee. So I think that is

981
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: playing into why they're not spending a ton of money

982
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,760
Speaker 1: this offseason. I think they just another year Mac Jones

983
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: and another year with these guys, and they hope they

984
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: can close the gave a little bit. Might be optimistic

985
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: on their part. We'll see, because I think the Bills

986
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 1: kind of showed how far away the Patriots are from

987
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 1: from truly contending. But you know, Johnny Smith, clearly they

988
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: expected a lot more out of him for the crazy money,

989
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: record money for a tight end that they gave to

990
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 1: Johnny Smith, and then he barely had two hundred yards

991
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: receiving last year, so they've got to get more out

992
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: of him. You know, you'd like to see more out

993
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: of Nelson Agalore as well, But I think obviously it

994
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: was a one time only thing for the spending, but

995
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:38,879
Speaker 1: you would have liked to see them spend a little

996
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: bit more than they have So far as well, they've

997
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: been really bargain hunting, and you know, we'll see. Belichick

998
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: is kind of betting on himself that his coaching and

999
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: their developmental process can can get a lot of improvement

1000
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: out of the Patriots. So well, see, you kind of

1001
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 1: sparked a question in my mind, Ben when you mentioned

1002
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: how the team hit wall down the stretch. Being around

1003
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,520
Speaker 1: the team as often as you are, can you speak

1004
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: to and you may not know this just because we

1005
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: know how tight lip they are about just about everything

1006
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: that they do there, But do you have any sense

1007
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: as to how much buy in there is buy Belichick

1008
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: and the staff with respect to sports science, load management,

1009
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: things like that. And the only reason I asked that

1010
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 1: is because watching that game in Week sixteen and then

1011
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 1: watching the first round playoff game, the Patriots defense looked

1012
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: very old and very slow by the end of the sea, like,

1013
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: didn't even look like the same team or unit that

1014
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 1: they did in the first half of the season. And

1015
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: I know that Belichick coaches that team hard, So I'm

1016
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: wondering if they're I'm wondering what the level of sports

1017
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: science and load management is incorporated into the way they

1018
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: do things on a weekly basis up there. Yeah, I mean, naturally,

1019
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: this being the Patriots, you know, they don't tell us

1020
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: too much of what's growing behind the scenes there. I

1021
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: would say a lot of that stuff is pretty strictly

1022
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 1: determined by the CBA. You know, they're only allowed to

1023
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: have fourteen padded practices throughout the entire regular season, and

1024
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: I think, excuse me, after week ten or so it had.

1025
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: You know, it gets even more restricted as the season

1026
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: goes on. So I don't know if it's Belichick wearing

1027
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: down his players as much as is the composition of

1028
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: the roster where I think the defense was a little

1029
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: bit older and bigger and more physical, but also slower,

1030
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: and I think Belichick maybe is learning his lesson and

1031
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,800
Speaker 1: is changing some things now. I think he is trying

1032
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 1: to get smaller and quicker at linebacker, which is what

1033
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,959
Speaker 1: you're seeing. You know, a lot of the NFL trend

1034
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: to and the safeties that are kind of hybrid safety

1035
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: linebackers that the Patriots have a bunch of those guys now.

1036
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: They went and got Jabrol Peppers from the Giants along

1037
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: with you know, Kyle Dugger and Adrian Phillips. So I

1038
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: just think last year's defense maybe isn't constructed well enough

1039
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: with guys who are good players. Dante Heizower, Kyle Van

1040
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: Noy Jamie Collins, but are a little long in the

1041
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: tooth and maybe not as fast as as today's linebackers.

1042
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: And in today's NFL it's all about speed. So I

1043
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: think we are seeing some changes from the Patriots, certainly

1044
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: on defense with some of their schematics in the way

1045
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: they look at some of the players, but also on

1046
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: offense too. They're not gonna have a fullback this year.

1047
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: There's definitely gonna be some changes with the Patriots. What

1048
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: are the Patriots fans and organizations seem to think about

1049
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 1: the rest of the division? The Bills, you know, Von

1050
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 1: Miller's coming in, the Dolphins pulling in Tyreek Hill, and

1051
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: the Jets with two top ten picks coming in the

1052
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: door and another year with Robert Salaw and Zach Wilson.

1053
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: How do you what's the perception in New England about

1054
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: the AFC East and the pluses and minuses of the

1055
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: teams in it. You know, you certainly have the segment

1056
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: of the fan base who thinks that, you know, Belichick

1057
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: is the best coach and he makes the most out

1058
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: of his roster, and the Dolphins or the Dolphins, so

1059
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: they're going to find a way to screw things up

1060
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: and that the Patriots are still going to be competitive.

1061
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 1: You know, to their credit they only lost the AFC

1062
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: East by by one game last year, although they certainly

1063
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: were from ahead and lost it badly in December and

1064
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 1: January to the Bills. I think, I think the majority

1065
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: of the fan base probably looks at the Patriots as

1066
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: running third in the AFC East right now. I mean,

1067
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: you've got to love the team that the Dolphins have

1068
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: put together on paper. Of course, it all comes down

1069
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: to Tuah and this is the big maker break year

1070
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 1: for Tuah. We'll see if he can do it or not.

1071
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: But certainly they've given him enough weapons and speed with

1072
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: Tyreek Kill and Jalen Waddle and Mike Kisiki and others

1073
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: as well. So you know, the Dolphins on paper it

1074
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: does look great, you know that said, as I said before,

1075
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 1: the Dolphins do usually find a way for it not

1076
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 1: to work out for whatever reason. The Bills to me

1077
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: are still clearly the class of the division. They're coming in,

1078
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: I think obviously with a big ship on their shoulder

1079
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: the way last ended the Bills. If they've gotten past

1080
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, you know, why couldn't they have gone to

1081
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and who knows. So I think the

1082
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: Bills are gonna be right there. Again, the big question

1083
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 1: is can they, you know, how do they handle the

1084
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: loss of Brian Dable and some of the coaching staff.

1085
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: And that's not something that we're not gonna you know,

1086
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: we're not gonna know until the season unfolds. But that

1087
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: will be fascinating to see how much of an impact

1088
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,280
Speaker 1: he truly had on the franchise. You know, And speaking

1089
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 1: of coaching changes, the Patriots are not going to have

1090
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: the same offensive coordinator that they've had for the last

1091
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: several years with Josh McDaniels now in Las Vegas. So

1092
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,080
Speaker 1: I know you wrote a story in The Boston Globe

1093
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 1: last week about how Belichick is betting on himself in

1094
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: terms of, you know, coordinator appointments. He's not necessarily naming anybody.

1095
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: Do we expect a specific person to fill each of

1096
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: those roles or are we talking multiple people? Like are

1097
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: we risking too many cooks in the kitchen? Or is

1098
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 1: this Belichick going complete czar mode and taking over everything?

1099
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: You know, I wouldn't be surprised if Belichick does have

1100
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: more And that's kind of the buzz that he's going

1101
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: to be more involved in the offense this year, which

1102
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprising. The defense I think is in better

1103
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: hands with Gerard Mayo, Steve Belichick his son. I mean,

1104
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: the coaching staff on that side of the ball has

1105
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 1: actually been in strength for a few years, where without

1106
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels. Now he's been their offensive coordinator and quarterbacks

1107
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 1: coach for ten straight years, so this is the first

1108
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: time they don't have him, and you know, they brought

1109
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 1: back Joe Judge, they have Matt Patricia. No one on

1110
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: staff has coached quarterbacks or been an offensive coordinator before.

1111
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: You know, when they lost Nick Kissario last year, they

1112
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: used like three or four different people to kind of

1113
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 1: they kind of parsed out everything that Casserio did and

1114
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: split it up between several people. Wouldn't be shocked if

1115
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: that's what ended up happening with McDaniels that you know,

1116
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 1: maybe maybe Joe Judge is the one calling the plays,

1117
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: but maybe Belichick has more of a hand in the

1118
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: game planning and Patricia has more like that. They're ways

1119
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: to I think split things up, but you know they're

1120
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: not saying anything. And Belichick has done this before in Cleveland.

1121
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: He didn't really have an offensive coordinator and it did

1122
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 1: not go well. There were you know, coaches speaking out

1123
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: about how there was confusion about who's calling what and

1124
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: who's responsible and there was a lot of finger pointing

1125
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,120
Speaker 1: at the time, and there's not like a clear delineation

1126
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 1: of responsibility. So it will be interesting to see if

1127
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots can pull that off this time. And there

1128
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 1: are questions, are you putting Mac Jones, your second year quarterback,

1129
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:34,680
Speaker 1: in the best position to succeed? You know, Belichick certainly

1130
01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,480
Speaker 1: deserves some benefit of the doubt, but there are questions

1131
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 1: about the composition of the staff and what exactly they're

1132
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: doing there this year. You also wrote an article a

1133
01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:46,880
Speaker 1: little earlier about you know, the Tom Brady unretirement and

1134
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: how it all timed up with Bruce Arians and his retirement,

1135
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: Brady's retirement then unretirement, Bruce Arians deciding he was going

1136
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: to call it quits after Brady or right around the

1137
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: same time Brady decided he was coming back, and whether

1138
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 1: Tom Brady had a voice in that conversation. Give us

1139
01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: your take on the timeline of who knew what when. Yeah,

1140
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: it's hard not to see this as Brady coming out

1141
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,920
Speaker 1: on top and sending Bruce Arians to an early retirement.

1142
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: And I think they like I think they got along

1143
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: great off the field. I think they loved playing golf

1144
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,520
Speaker 1: together and you know, have a beer after the game

1145
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 1: or what have you. I mean, no, everyone loves Ba

1146
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: the person, but I think there was some concern that

1147
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 1: he was kind of overstepping his boundaries, which sounds weird

1148
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: as the head coach, but he was almost like a figurehead.

1149
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: His coordinators, Todd Bowls on defense and Byron Leftwich on offense,

1150
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: and obviously Brady they're really the ones calling, you know,

1151
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: running the team, and Arians, because of health, took a

1152
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: step back. And then there was reports that you know,

1153
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,920
Speaker 1: there was resentment that Leftwich and Brady would do the

1154
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: offensive game plan and then Arians would come in and

1155
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: with a figure to red pen and say no, no, no,

1156
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 1: and you know they'd say, well, well you didn't, you know,

1157
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 1: what are you doing here? And so Brady he retires,

1158
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: but then he goes over to the United Kingdom a

1159
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: few weeks ago, and he goes to the Manchester United

1160
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,040
Speaker 1: game and he sees the Glazer family who owns man

1161
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: You and the Buccaneers, and then literally the next day

1162
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 1: comes out of retirement, and then two weeks later, Bruce

1163
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: Arians magically is retiring and going into the front office.

1164
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,480
Speaker 1: And it's just hard not to look at it as

1165
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: Brady saying, look, you got to figure something out with

1166
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: the coach. And I don't know if he explicitly asked

1167
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: for Arians gone or the ownership took the hint, but

1168
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,720
Speaker 1: now they're, you know, like, this is the timing is right.

1169
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles is ready to run the team, Byron left

1170
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 1: which is ready to run the offense. Those guys deserve

1171
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: more credit. And you know, Bruce Arians, he's at the

1172
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: owners meetings last week, he's around, he's at the combine,

1173
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: he's doing all this stuff that head coaches are doing.

1174
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: So it's hard for me to see that this was

1175
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: part of some grand plan. And it does seem like

1176
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 1: Brady kind of pulled the strings with getting the coach. Yeah.

1177
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:59,080
Speaker 1: I thought that Arians framed it in an interesting way

1178
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: when he address the media, because he basically said, once

1179
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: I knew Tom was coming back, I felt comfortable that

1180
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 1: the organization was in good hands to hand it off

1181
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: to Todd. And I'm like, it's a real convenient way

1182
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: to frame that. It's I think it's more like what

1183
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 1: you're describing. Yeah, you know what, Tom's not coming back

1184
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,320
Speaker 1: until you move off the sideline. We're happy to employ

1185
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 1: you upstairs, but you got to step aside and let

1186
01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: Todd take over this thing because he's much more comfortable

1187
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: with Byron and him working together than with you weighing

1188
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: in on stuff. So what do you say you move upstairs.

1189
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,520
Speaker 1: We'll get you a nice cushy office with a leather

1190
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:40,400
Speaker 1: couch and you can kick back and have my ties

1191
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,120
Speaker 1: any time of the day. It worked, Yeah, that's what

1192
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: I thought. Yeah. The Manchester United meeting with the owners

1193
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 1: is really an interesting fly in the ointment. To measure,

1194
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: Ronaldo had a hat trick in the game. He went,

1195
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: just so I'm that guy's thirty six. It's interesting and

1196
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,960
Speaker 1: no question that there's no there's no harmed in the relationship.

1197
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: If if Bruce us to get kicked upstairs, and I

1198
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: know Brady and be A probably get along very well,

1199
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 1: but it could be the Glaziers themselves orchestrated this. Listen,

1200
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: we want to we want to bring Todd bulls up.

1201
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 1: We want to give him the best chance of being successful.

1202
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna ease Bruce out would you please come back

1203
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: and take it for one more year to help us

1204
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: make this transition. You can take your pick as to

1205
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: what happened, but there's no question Bea was going to

1206
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 1: be out of there one way or the other. Yeah,

1207
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 1: you know, and to his credit, he builds a heck

1208
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 1: of his staff there, and you know, he's a real

1209
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: testament to you know, one of the few. He's a

1210
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 1: he and the and the Bucks are a leader in

1211
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 1: the diversity efforts for the NFL. They build an excellent

1212
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: staff and did a great job in hiring minorities, hiring

1213
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: women as full time position coaches. So Bruce Arians says,

1214
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: I think done tremendous things for the Bucks. He obviously

1215
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: helped bring them a Super Bowl. Tom Brady had a

1216
01:07:57,280 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 1: little something to do with it as well, But I

1217
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: don't know. There were some rumblings coming out from the

1218
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: Bucks at the end of the year that the relationship

1219
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: football wise, between Brady and Arians wasn't totally peachy, I

1220
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 1: guess you could say. And you know, look like he said,

1221
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,679
Speaker 1: everyone loves Bruce Arians. He's done some great things there.

1222
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: But if he's it got to the point where I

1223
01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 1: think everyone was ready to take bigger Rolls and Arians

1224
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 1: was maybe a little bit of a progress stopper for

1225
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: guys like Buyer, Leftwitch and Todd Bowls. And then I'll

1226
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:36,560
Speaker 1: last one for you, Ben, And again we appreciate the time. Draftwise.

1227
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 1: You know, they lose J C. Jackson. I know they

1228
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 1: filled the gap to some degree with Terrence Mitchell and

1229
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: bringing Malcolm Butler back in free agency. Offensive line moved

1230
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 1: on from some guys as well. You know Ted Harris

1231
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: is not there now and as we know, Shack Mason

1232
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: got moved in a trade with Tampa Bay. So how

1233
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: do you think they play the early stages of the

1234
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: draft this spring? You touched on the areas that they

1235
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:14,559
Speaker 1: probably have their base needs left tackle, maybe not someone

1236
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 1: for this year because they still have Isaiah Winn on

1237
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: his fifth year option. But I have a feeling that

1238
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 1: this is probably wins last year, so it would serve

1239
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: them well to draft a left tackle to develop for

1240
01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: the future. Otherwise, I think it's got to be either

1241
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:32,719
Speaker 1: receiver or cornerback. I still think even with getting Davante Parker,

1242
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 1: they still could use an elite, especially a young guy

1243
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 1: who's cost controlled. First round pick comes with that fifth

1244
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: year option. There's a lot of talk about them getting

1245
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:47,679
Speaker 1: the Jamison guy from from Alabama towards ACL obviously somewhat

1246
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:49,559
Speaker 1: of a red shirt year, though I would think he'd

1247
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,720
Speaker 1: be able to participate at least in the second half

1248
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 1: of the season. But you know, the opportunity to get

1249
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: an elite receiver at number twenty one. It's the same

1250
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:02,519
Speaker 1: area where like the Vikings got Justin Jefferson. You know

1251
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,640
Speaker 1: that you can find an excellent receiver there. And then cornerback,

1252
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: you're right after trading or letting j C. Jackson walk,

1253
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,719
Speaker 1: letting step on Gilmour walk. Yes, they signed Malcolm Butler,

1254
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: but they definitely need more depth at cornerback. And you know,

1255
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 1: a kid like Kyer Elam is someone I've heard a lot, big,

1256
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 1: rangy corner from Florida. So I think you know the

1257
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: passing game in today's NFL, either receiver or cornerback, that's

1258
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: probably where the Patriot should look in the first round. Ben,

1259
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 1: thanks so much, appreciate your time. All right, guys, thanks

1260
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: so much. All right, joy the rest of the off season.

1261
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 1: That's Ben Voland from the Boston Globe, joining US NFL

1262
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: writer for that paper up there in New England. And

1263
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:47,400
Speaker 1: it's hard not to think that the Patriots have some

1264
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: similar positional needs to that of the Bills. I would

1265
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: say the only difference is they're probably looking for a

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01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: more of a true offensive tackle prospect. When it comes

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01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: to the offensive line, you could argue the Bills looking

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01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 1: more on the interior guard, you know, more of a

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01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:07,719
Speaker 1: guard tackle type player per se. But then it's wide receiver,

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01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 1: it's corner, and those are two positions the Bills are

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01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:12,320
Speaker 1: gonna be looking at two. Yeah, and they're right in

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01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,720
Speaker 1: front of Buffalo tent. One think. I still think they

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01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 1: have way more needs all the way across the Oh yes, yes, unquestioned.

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01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 1: So there's there's way more room for taking the best

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01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: player available because they need more players around. I think

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01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 1: you's kind of one thing, Brownie. I think they're gonna

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01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: try and get a lot faster with their draft picks. Um.

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01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 1: They already tried to do that with a linebacker for

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01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,679
Speaker 1: linebacker trade with the Browns. They get linebacker Mac Wilson

1280
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 1: in exchange for linebacker Chase Winovic, who was, you know,

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01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 1: not a super athletic. Linebacker. Mac Wilson is more athletics,

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01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 1: So they tried to make a difference there. Davante Parker

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01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 1: to me, is their most athletic wide receiver on the

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01:11:54,840 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 1: roster period. Forget about ability and production, athletic trade. He's

1285
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 1: the best receiver walking in the room right day one,

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01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: whether he knows the offense or not. I think the

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01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:12,600
Speaker 1: most interesting part of this conversation is how offensive coordinator

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01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 1: is going to work itself out up there, because it

1289
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: looks like the same thing. Looks like they've got a

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01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 1: team effort right now. I'm telling you, right now, we

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01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: saw how it worked in Miami or didn't work with

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01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 1: George Godzi and Eric Studesville as co offensive coordinators. That

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01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: was a mess. It was a mess down there last year.

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01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:33,759
Speaker 1: A yeah, but you got a it's a different animal

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01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,840
Speaker 1: with Bill Belichick heading the staff and the continuity they've

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01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:42,960
Speaker 1: had up until this point, they are probably meeting long

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01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 1: and hard about exactly who's gonna have a voice in

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01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 1: the room and who's gonna say what. So you gotta

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01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,719
Speaker 1: have an unilateral playmaker though, or a play caller, don't

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01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 1: you though? I would think so, Yes, I would think so.

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01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 1: They've got a hassen. You've got to have hard and

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01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,879
Speaker 1: fast rules, especially with a young quarterback. Yeah, and I'll

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01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,759
Speaker 1: say this though everything's you know, they're not changing anything

1304
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: you said. Maybe the voice in mac Jones's head, I

1305
01:13:05,439 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 1: don't mean that figurative. Let me tell guy in the helmet.

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01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see who the actual guy is.

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01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 1: I can't see Bill Belichick having a play sheet in

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01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 1: his hand, although he could, I'd be surprised. Although he

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01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 1: could see for me here And I've heard this from

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01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:24,280
Speaker 1: other coaches as well. When you're the head coach and

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01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 1: you're a play caller, the issue is this that in

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01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 1: between series the play caller needs to have In today's NFL,

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01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 1: the play caller needs to have conversations with the guy

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01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: playing quarterback about what he's thinking, why they're gonna do that,

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01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 1: that in the adjustments they're gonna make in the next series,

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01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: what's going to happen in the next series, how they're

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01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 1: gonna adjust their game plan going forward. And while you're

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01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 1: sitting over there talking to that quarterback on the bench

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01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: about what's the next series is going to be, the

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01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 1: defense is on the field and the head coach isn't

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01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,960
Speaker 1: watching because he's over there at call. He's a play caller.

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01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,639
Speaker 1: He's over here. He's got his back to the field.

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01:14:02,280 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 1: That's a real issue. That is a real issue, and

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01:14:05,640 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: that's what faces the Patriots if Bill Belichick is calling

1325
01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: the plays offensively. I don't think that's gonna happen Bill Belick,

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01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 1: you know. And Bill Belichick probably would break out in

1327
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 1: hives if he couldn't watch his defense play on the side,

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01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 1: you know. So that's gonna be interesting because in game

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01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:28,759
Speaker 1: adjustments are vital and mandatory on an NFL sideline, and

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01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 1: when you've got the head coach having to do some

1331
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 1: of that, that means he's not doing stuff that's happening

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01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 1: on the field in between series. That's a problem. I

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01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 1: just find it interesting that he's not ready yet, and

1334
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: we're two weeks away from the offseason program starting and

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01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: he's not ready yet to officially name one person the

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01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 1: quote unquote offensive. He's probably got an idea on who

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01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: he wants to handle that stuff. But why aren't you

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01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:57,760
Speaker 1: naming the guy. I'll tell you why. Because they don't

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01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:01,360
Speaker 1: want to have to interview somebody else they have to

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01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 1: interview because of the Rooney rule, they have to bring

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01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,640
Speaker 1: somebody internet. Nobody's going to that job. No, when they

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01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: can't get it now you've got a Rooney rule for

1343
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: coordinators too, So they're not gonna have a coordinator this year,

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01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 1: which in the building, they're probably gonna say, hey, you're

1345
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,600
Speaker 1: the coordinator. We're gonna call you senior offensive assistant, but

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01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 1: you're the offensive coordinator, call the plays. That's what's going

1347
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: to happen. They just did this so late in the game,

1348
01:15:24,439 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 1: and nobody wants to go in there for a sham

1349
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 1: interview for the offensive coordinator's job than New England Patriots.

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01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, No, I get it.

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01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: That's a that's a good point that you bring up,

1352
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 1: and so they're just getting around that. They're getting around

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01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 1: the rule. Yeah, they'll pay the guy like a Patriots

1354
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: trying to work their way around a rule. No way,

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01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 1: the defense rests right here. I rest my case. I've

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01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 1: rerested my case. I right there. Thank you. All right,

1357
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 1: we gotta take a break. Jesse and Buffalo others holding

1358
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 1: at eight oh three, five fifty. We will get to

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01:15:56,439 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 1: you when we come back from break, as we have

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01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 1: more of your phone calls and some interesting comments from

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01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 1: a former Bills receiver who appeared on Good Morning Football

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01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 1: as a guest host. We'll tell you about that when

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01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,880
Speaker 1: we return here on One Bills Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to one Bills Live.

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01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker. Lights are still on. We're happy.

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Speaker 1: Got to get to the phones though, at eight five

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01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,679
Speaker 1: fifty one eight eight five fifty two five fifty where

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01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: we've been asking you today what is the final move

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01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 1: by the Bills that would make your off season complete?

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01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:45,760
Speaker 1: Back to the phones, we go into Jesse, who's been

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01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: waiting patiently in Buffalo. What do you got first? Jesse? Hey, Christy,

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01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 1: how you guys going to that good? Doing good? Hey,

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01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: So we're quick to answer your question. I do think

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01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 1: the Bills should trade up in a draft and trade

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01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 1: with somebody like Philadelphia, who has three picks. I think

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01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: it's fifteen, sixteen, and nineteen um. I would trade with

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01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 1: him for the nineteen pick and not give away our

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01:17:08,040 --> 01:17:10,800
Speaker 1: twenty fifth pick. I would give them somebody like I

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01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,479
Speaker 1: don't Tremaine Eedmands, And I'm only saying it's not because

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01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 1: of the talented Tremaine, but since we're so loaded as

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01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 1: a team and we're kind of in the win now,

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01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 1: mold it saves us from really paying him later or

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01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:24,440
Speaker 1: making that decision, because they have to make that decision regardless.

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01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 1: And do you think Tremaine Etmans has worked that money.

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01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 1: I would. I would make a trade there and try

1386
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,600
Speaker 1: to add more talent in the first round because we

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01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 1: can't keep all of our picks because we can't pay

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01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 1: them all. Secondly, the reason I called was, I wonder

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01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 1: know if you guys seen the Bob Miller video of

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01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 1: him and free agency, Yes, Bob Mueller or Vlongs Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 1: it's detail like it. Actually, you can hear Josh Allen

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01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 1: on the phone with him. Uh, you can hear him

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01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:56,600
Speaker 1: talk to Sean McVeigh. But yeah, I'll get off and

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01:17:56,680 --> 01:17:58,599
Speaker 1: let you guys comment on the draft pick. I just

1395
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 1: think I don't think all of our draft picks we

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01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 1: can keep them because we have so many quality guys

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01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:07,559
Speaker 1: and uh, you guys always say it's not good to

1398
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 1: always have guys. You got to have guys that can ball,

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01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 1: and we have a lot of them. Yeah, but all

1400
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:14,719
Speaker 1: of our draft picks can't really make the team regardless. Secondly,

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01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 1: we can't really pay that main pick, so you might

1402
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 1: as well get rid of some of them. Or trade

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01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 1: them up to get quality guys. Well, they'll be able to.

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01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 1: They'll be able to, they'll be able to pay the

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01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 1: picks they get this year. I think you're talking about

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01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: the guys like this coming year or so he's worried

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01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 1: about it making the roster. Yeah right, I'm talking about

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01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 1: paying the guys that are now earning it, like Tremaine

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01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 1: Edmonds and and Matt Milano and all these guys are

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01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: gonna have to get extended. Well Milano is extended, but

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01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 1: you get the point, right, that's what he's talking about, right,

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01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 1: paying those guys. Yeah, because next offseason you've got decisions

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01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:51,439
Speaker 1: you have to make. Devin Singletary said, Oliver, Tremaine Edmonds, Okay,

1414
01:18:51,439 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: there's those four. There's four right there. That's four pretty

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01:18:53,800 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 1: big ones. Yeah, it is. So he's saying, trade one

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01:18:56,479 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 1: or two of those now now to Philly for the

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01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 1: nineteen pick and keep the twenty five pick. That's it's

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01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: awesome if and I'm all about it. I love and

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01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: respect those guys. But if you're gonna you know, you

1420
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 1: got Tremaine Edmunds, Dawson Knox, Devin Singletary at Oliver, you

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01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: gotta get somebody at least as good as those at

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01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 1: the at the nineteen pick. To do that, if you're

1423
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,599
Speaker 1: gonna say if you're saying one for one, if you're

1424
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 1: saying like a one for one or or with a

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01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: full he said he didn't want to give up their

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01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 1: pick at twenty five. So you're gonna get pick in nineteen.

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01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: So you gotta give a veteran play by one to one,

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01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:33,200
Speaker 1: I mean the draft pick for the player and then

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01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: plus like a fifth like because you don't think the fifth, sixth,

1430
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 1: seventh players are gonna rounds are gonna be able to

1431
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 1: make our team anyway. I get all that. So if

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01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,679
Speaker 1: you get it, if you trade like us, say Dawson

1433
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 1: Knox to Philly for the nineteen pick plus Buffalo's fifth rounder,

1434
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 1: it's a hard move. You now you got you got

1435
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 1: oj Howard in the fold now, which he'll help, but

1436
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 1: he doesn't know the offense as well. You know that's

1437
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 1: it's a question mark. You're taking a big chance with

1438
01:20:04,280 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 1: the weapons that have proven to be effective for the

1439
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: number one player in the league on your roster. I

1440
01:20:10,160 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 1: don't know that you want to do that. Maybe on

1441
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:15,519
Speaker 1: the other side of the ball, maybe a Tremaine Edmonds. Okay,

1442
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 1: what a Tredavious White, one of those guys you're gonna

1443
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:24,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna say goodbye to him. No, Heed Oliver, you're

1444
01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:26,679
Speaker 1: gonna say, Okay, Ed, you're gonna go, and you're gonna

1445
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 1: we're gonna send Ed Oliver and a fifth rounder to

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01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 1: Philly for the number nineteen pick. Ed's a ten pick. Yeah,

1447
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know it. It's a I

1448
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 1: think that's too aggressive personally. Yeah. The reason I say

1449
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:43,640
Speaker 1: that is because if you are truly, in fact in

1450
01:20:43,680 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 1: a go for it year, you don't get rid of

1451
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: a proven player just to get another draft pick, which

1452
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:51,639
Speaker 1: is a veritable unknown. No matter how much research you've

1453
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 1: done in the draft, no matter how successful you've been

1454
01:20:54,040 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 1: on first round picks, the risk in taking a player

1455
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:02,520
Speaker 1: at nineteen is much higher then relying on Tremaine Edmonds

1456
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 1: in what could be his last year with the team.

1457
01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:08,120
Speaker 1: You know what you have, it's a known commodity. He's

1458
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 1: played pretty damn well in this defense. Not to mention

1459
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 1: the fact that he runs it, you know, sets the

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01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 1: defense up to me. You're being you're being overaggressive for

1461
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 1: a decision that you don't have to make now. That

1462
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,480
Speaker 1: you don't have to make that decision till this offseason.

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01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 1: That is a trade you make when you're in the

1464
01:21:27,479 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 1: throes of the drought, because you don't think you're gonna

1465
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 1: get good enough fast enough for Tremaine Edmunds to put

1466
01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 1: you over the top. You know what I mean. That's

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01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:37,599
Speaker 1: a trade you have when you're a year you're two

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01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:40,439
Speaker 1: years away or at least another year away from being

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01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 1: a contender. Well, trade away this vet because he's gonna

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01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:48,639
Speaker 1: be too expensive in two years and we're not gonna

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Speaker 1: win anyway this year. That's not the cast. Not where

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Speaker 1: the Bills are. They could win this year very well,

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01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:56,960
Speaker 1: the whole thing. No, they are expected to win this year.

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01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 1: You're not gonna you don't want to weaken your roster

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01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:03,120
Speaker 1: rap now for a guy who may or may not

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01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 1: help you to spot where you could probably fill in

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01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 1: pretty well with the guys you got on the roster.

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01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: Now you're cutting off your nose despite you right, Yeah,

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01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 1: so I'm unless it's an unless it's a slam dunk

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01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 1: and the other team takes a bath. I don't make

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01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,640
Speaker 1: any of these moves for veteran players. If you can

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01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 1: fit all these guys under your cap. Now in the

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01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 1: coming months, when Tremaine Edmonds comes up for review and

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01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 1: his contracts up, and at Oliver's contracts up, and Dawson

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01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 1: Knox contracts up, and who was the other one, Devin

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01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 1: Singletary's contracts up. Draft now you've got Now you've got

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01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 1: some issues, but not now. Yeah, now you got a

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01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 1: Let these guys. In fact, let these guys play because

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01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 1: they're the ones who are the most motivated on the

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01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,439
Speaker 1: entire roster to hit the home run in this coming

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01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 1: contract within a year, within one year, they're gonna be

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01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 1: very rich. They're big money. Second contract is what's on

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01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 1: the line this year. You're gonna get the absolute best

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01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 1: out of those four and you don't even have to

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01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 1: prod him, that's right, because they know what they're gonna

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01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 1: take personally, and they're gonna be They're gonna be all

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01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 1: in with pulling the entire roster along with them. Those

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01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,040
Speaker 1: guys want to play, and they want to win, and

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01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 1: they want to because they know it's going to be

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Speaker 1: if they do it, it's going to be a life

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01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 1: changer form And I think what we've seen from Brandon

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01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,880
Speaker 1: Bean for the most part, is getting talent in the

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01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 1: pipeline ready to replace some of the veteran talent that

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01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:26,880
Speaker 1: he knows, the fiscal constraints of the salary cap will

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01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 1: not allow him to keep long term. The bottom line

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01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 1: is this, you can't keep everybody, especially when you draft

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01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: as well as the Bills have in the last four

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01:23:37,000 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 1: or five years. The salary cap precludes you from keeping everybody,

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01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 1: especially when you are paying a franchise quarterback. It's just

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01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 1: not sustainable. As much as we would like this team

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01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,840
Speaker 1: to keep everybody and every draft pick success that's come

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01:23:53,880 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: through the door and panned out as a damn good player,

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01:23:57,479 --> 01:24:00,599
Speaker 1: you just can't do it in this era of the cap,

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01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: especially when you have a franchise quarterback, and the Bills

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01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 1: have that. So you have to make tougher decisions eventually,

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01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 1: and those decisions I think come home to roost the

1517
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 1: upcoming off season, not now like it wouldn't. That's why

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01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:20,280
Speaker 1: I say very subtly. You know everybody knows cornerbacks the

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01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 1: position will need. Yes, you would like to supplement the

1520
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 1: wide receiver position and interior offensive line. Those are the

1521
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 1: areas that a lot of people see as in need

1522
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:33,719
Speaker 1: of being addressed in the draft in some way. Shape

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01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 1: or form. A position like linebacker is not seen as

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01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:40,080
Speaker 1: immediate need because everybody looks at oh, you got Tremaine Edmonds,

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01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 1: you got Mamelana, what's the worry. The worry is what's

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01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,680
Speaker 1: going to happen next off season? Is Tremaine Edmonds here?

1527
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: It's a legitimate question. He may not be. So what

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01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:52,720
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean's approach typically has been is get somebody in

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01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 1: the pipeline. So maybe there is a linebacker that comes

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01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:57,400
Speaker 1: off the board in round two or three, and people like, oh, wow,

1531
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 1: why are we going for a linebacker round two or three?

1532
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 1: Because you don't know if you're gonna be able to

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01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 1: afford to pay Tremaine Edmonds come next he does, and

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01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 1: if he does come in the off sea, you've got

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01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,639
Speaker 1: He's got a year behind Tremaine Edmonds, watching how Tremaine

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01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: exact the defense and getting to know the defense before

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01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 1: he steps in and has to carry it and have

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01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 1: the radio in his helmet. And I could see the

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01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 1: bills with Tremaine Edmonds, as much as they love and

1540
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 1: respect him, having them get to the end of his

1541
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 1: contract and say, okay, here's what go it. Find out

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01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,880
Speaker 1: what you're worth and will will transition your or whatever.

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01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 1: We'll match whatever anybody gives you out on the open market,

1544
01:25:30,240 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 1: or they might just say this is as far as

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01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 1: we can because you can do better. That's right, they've

1546
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 1: done that. The simple fact of the matter is as

1547
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 1: as big a part of the defense as he is,

1548
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 1: it's the number one defense, has been a top five

1549
01:25:42,680 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: defense three out of the four seasons he's been in

1550
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: the league top five, and last year was top And

1551
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 1: he's a reason for despite what you know, the criticisms

1552
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 1: he takes at middle linebacker the Buffalo Bills. It's not

1553
01:25:56,720 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 1: a premier position. It's an important position, but it's it's

1554
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:05,599
Speaker 1: not a money making position. So the Bills are can

1555
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 1: afford to say, okay, go get what you can get,

1556
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 1: and if you'll give us the opportunity, we'll match it

1557
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:12,360
Speaker 1: because we don't want to set the market, but we

1558
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 1: will let you try. I could see him doing something

1559
01:26:16,120 --> 01:26:18,120
Speaker 1: like that and then even and then pushed it comes

1560
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:20,360
Speaker 1: to shove that say thanks for everything, you're the greatest,

1561
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 1: appreciate you, you know, have a great career, and then

1562
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 1: go move on. It's just not one of those positions

1563
01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 1: that moves the needle enough. Unfortunately, Yeah, we have to

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01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 1: take a break here when we come back. Who was

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01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 1: that former Bills player that was on Good Morning Football

1566
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 1: this morning with the hot takes on the Bills coming

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01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 1: up in twenty twenty two. We'll let you know when

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Speaker 1: we return here on One Bills Live presented by Kalid

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01:26:48,360 --> 01:27:04,519
Speaker 1: to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right here we

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Speaker 1: are one final segment to go on a Monday, One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live is the program, and before we go, we

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01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 1: should let you know tomorrow's show we'll be featuring Bruce

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01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 1: Feldman from the Athletic look forward to our conversation with him,

1574
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 1: NFL reporter, among other things. We did want to let

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01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,320
Speaker 1: you know Good Morning Football they've been having some rotating

1576
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 1: co hosts ever since. Everybody's going out for vacation once

1577
01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 1: in a while. Well and Nate Burlison left and nobody's

1578
01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 1: they haven't replaced him yet with a full timer. And

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01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders was on the show this morning and he

1580
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 1: is high on the Bills. And Josh Allen to say

1581
01:27:44,960 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 1: the least, we already knew that having heard from him

1582
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 1: when he was here as a player, and he said

1583
01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:54,559
Speaker 1: he's still trying to decide on retirement plans to wait

1584
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: another month or two before finalizing that decision, said he's

1585
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 1: still working out. He also said Gabriel Davis is going

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01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 1: to be a Pro Bowl level wide receiver, and he

1587
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:08,200
Speaker 1: said Jamison Crowder is the biggest under the radar move

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01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 1: in the league this season. Yeah, this offseason. Yeah, you

1589
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 1: and I both liked the Crowder signing. Oh yeah, he was.

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01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,479
Speaker 1: He led the Jets in receptions for the last three

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01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 1: straight years and he's at the slot receiver where the

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01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 1: Bills would like not only some depth, but somebody to

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01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 1: compete with. Isam McKenzie. H Cole Beasley's not there anymore.

1594
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:31,599
Speaker 1: He's a different skill set than Beasley. Um, he may

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01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:34,679
Speaker 1: I think will probably be a little bit bigger play

1596
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:39,479
Speaker 1: threat than than yards after catch. But Beasley's hard to

1597
01:28:39,479 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 1: top as a guy who's always available and converts third downs.

1598
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 1: So yeah, Immanuel Sanders doing saying a lot of nice things.

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01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:49,160
Speaker 1: Also get jumping on the Josh Allen MVP bandwagon, as

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01:28:49,200 --> 01:28:51,360
Speaker 1: a lot of people are. It'll be interesting to see,

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01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 1: but um, it was a it was a good show

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01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:56,640
Speaker 1: today with Emmanuel on there. I will read off a

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Speaker 1: couple of quick tweet cheeters brought to you by Corrigan

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Speaker 1: Gilmore to Buffalo on a one year deal would be

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Speaker 1: the final move that would make his offseason complete. Doctor

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01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 1: Dusty has a much different approach Steve. He says, get

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01:29:10,760 --> 01:29:13,720
Speaker 1: really good ice, cold brood coughing in the stadium. We

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01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 1: run the gamut here on one Bills Live, and it's

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01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 1: gonna be the same thing tomorrow. We'll see you in

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Speaker 1: One