WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, January 21 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:22.520 It is Thursday, January one. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:27.200 Jaguars Happy Hours presented by the C s I Companies 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:31.720 and now founding member of the John Cena Fan Club, 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:38.440 Ashland Sullivan. I was so scared when he was going 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:40.760 to say the entire day for that intro, is this 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:44.240 how JP does this all day long? We're going to say, 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:47.319 Joe always has something to kind of get. JPS got 0:00:47.360 --> 0:00:50.760 a little bit, but I was kind of kind of wondering, there, Joe, 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:54.040 you forget how to push the buttons. We had a 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.440 we had a we had a rehearsal before he actually 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:59.200 did the real world wrong with some practice, right, nothing 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:03.400 wrong with the Who're just saying he's always trying to 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.400 get I want to say embarrassed. But he's trying to 0:01:06.440 --> 0:01:08.240 have a little bit of fun with JP, and so 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.520 we gotta have a little fun back. Yeah, it's only fair. 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:14.520 It's only fair. You're going to regret this, Okay. The 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.080 man has the power to turn my my golf, Yes 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:20.280 he does, don't test him. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Are 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.760 this fine program? And yes this is not JP Shadwick, 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.840 Ashland Sullivan and for JP, O well deserved week of 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:28.480 vacation for him. If you have not heard, the Jaguars 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:31.600 have announced Trent Bulky as the new general manager of 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.240 the Jaguars today. So we have all of that and 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:37.680 more coming up on this fine program, as well as 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:40.640 John Osier starting off the show with us, and John, 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:43.600 I will go to you first. You were listening intensely 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.680 through that press conference, So what was your reaction, Trent 0:01:46.760 --> 0:01:49.720 Bulky urban Meyer check it off the list? General manager, 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:54.360 head coach done. First of all, Hello Jeff, Hello Ashland. 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:56.440 Jeff havn't been studio with you in a long time. 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:01.360 Good to see you again. Um, kind of see you're right, well, 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:05.880 kind of right virtually. Um. I think anybody who watched 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:10.640 the presser, it was an unsurprising main theme and the 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.880 word of the day was alignment, and over and over again. 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:16.959 Even when they were asked other things, they all came 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:20.440 back to this is alignment. When urban Meyer was asked 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:25.959 about the importance of Trent having NFL experience, he gave 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:28.000 a very quick sentence and then he said, but none 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:31.160 of this works if we're not aligned. So it's clear 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:35.840 that Shod Conn's Shod Khan's message that this is a 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:40.679 partnership between GM and head coach and they're working together. Transparency, 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:44.560 all those buzzwords. You know, I think it's fool as 0:02:44.680 --> 0:02:46.680 to think that urban Meyer is not going to have 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:50.160 major say in personnel. That's always how this works. But 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.680 it is a partnership in a relationship that is going 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.720 to be symbiotic. Whatever buzzword you used, that's what I 0:02:56.720 --> 0:02:59.079 took from it most of all, Jeff, I think I'll 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:02.640 show that even though urban Meyer is expected to have 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:04.760 a pretty big voice and the personnel, you also have 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.880 to know what you don't know. And and I think 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:10.400 that that will happen in this case because Trent Balky 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:14.919 obviously has a vast amount of experience in personnel, whereas 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:19.400 urban Meyer has typically done it from a recruiting standpoint. 0:03:20.200 --> 0:03:22.480 And so if you're urban Meyer, you've got to have 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:24.520 people number one that you can trust the number two 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:27.320 that you believe in. And so I think it's I 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:29.000 think it's great. I mean, you've got to be aligned, 0:03:29.000 --> 0:03:31.520 and I mean, I hate to say this, but I 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.320 don't think that there was alignment here in the past. 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:38.120 I really don't. And and uh, for whatever reason, sometimes 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:40.720 general manager might think that things should go a certain way, 0:03:40.720 --> 0:03:43.680 and and coaches are expecting things to go another way. 0:03:43.720 --> 0:03:46.040 And if if you're not on the same page, you've 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:49.000 got no chance of success. And so I like to 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:52.200 hear that word alignment and then everybody trying to work 0:03:52.240 --> 0:03:54.360 towards a common goal, because if if you have a 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.280 general manager and a coach that are on the same page, 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.040 you've got no chance. And and Trent Balky alluded to that, 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:02.400 uh and and I don't think he was very specifically 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:05.840 talking about it, John and and Ashland from a from 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.960 a from an alignment standpoint and lack of alignment standpoint, 0:04:09.000 --> 0:04:10.840 But he said, out of the thirty two teams in 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:14.160 the National Football League, or twenty eight of them don't 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.560 have a chance because they're they're not aligned and uh 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:19.760 and I don't think he used that exact word, but 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:22.360 he said teams don't have a chance from the very 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:25.200 get go. And I believe that he was referring to 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:28.080 the lack of alignment, et cetera. So I don't know. Yes, 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:30.640 he did say shoot themselves in the foot before the 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:33.000 season even gets started. I think we all can read 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.839 between the lines on what exactly that means. So you 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.040 mentioned that chain of command. What does it look like? 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:41.800 Trent Fulky was asked about that both of them reporting 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.800 to directly to shod compilets here. What this partnership is 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.880 going to look like. I'm a resource for coach, That's 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.320 what the way I look at it. I provide a 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:53.559 service where he can come in, he can bounce things 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:56.240 off of me. Uh question there, because there's gonna be 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.200 a lot of questions. There's gonna be a lot of 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.600 things that are going to be first time for him. 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:03.039 But in the short time I've been with him, the 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:05.760 one thing I realized he's a quick study. It's not 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.280 gonna take him long to figure the rules out and 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:12.400 everything that goes with it. And he's certainly as a coach, 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.599 you know, he knows his way around the practice field 0:05:16.680 --> 0:05:20.919 very well. Urban Meyer did mention that he has spent 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.400 tiresly amounts of time with Trump Paulki these past few days. 0:05:24.400 --> 0:05:26.240 They have seen a lot of each other and John, 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.400 I'll go to you. It's kind of it's different. This 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.560 year has been different. But that was the first time 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:33.800 I've seen Trent Bulky heard from Trump Bulky. He's been 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.040 here almost a year and that's the first time we've 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:37.960 seen him because of COVID, So it was kind of 0:05:37.960 --> 0:05:43.280 our introductory press conference, even though he's been here a while. Well, 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:47.479 it's certainly an unusual situation. You know, people covering the 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.400 league this year have been covering people that they've never 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:52.560 met face to face, which has never happened. Jeff can 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:53.920 speak to that. He was a player in the league 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:59.359 for a long time. I've you know. The takeaway, the 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:02.480 big one is the Trent Bawkey and urban Meyer are 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:05.200 a line. But I think it's also important to realize 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:09.880 Trent Balky's reputation is as a guy who stands firm 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:13.520 in his own decisions. He is a guy who with 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.359 twenty years of experience in this league. He's been a 0:06:16.400 --> 0:06:18.680 general manager for six years, been really covering the show. 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:20.560 He was general manager of a team that went to 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:24.719 the to the NFC Championship Game three times. He picked 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:30.000 players he has insight that urban Meyer needs. This is 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.800 not a one way street. Although Trent said I'm here 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:35.960 to be a resource, he's more than just a resource. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:39.640 His voice matters very much in this triangle that they 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:44.359 talk about shod Khan, Trent Balky, and Urban Meyer. Trent 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:47.360 Balky is a third of that for a reason, he's 0:06:47.400 --> 0:06:50.320 experienced and I believe ready for the job. Six years 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:54.400 experiences at GM, you're ready for your next opportunity in 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:58.920 that situation, and I think it's too. It's also incredibly 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.880 important with with the hiring of urban Meyer, who doesn't 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:07.520 have NFL experience, to have other experience around him, and 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:10.560 I think the general manager position is is critical for 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.120 that and somebody that's been there and done that. And 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.600 obviously the landscape has changed a little bit since he 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:18.480 was a general manager, but I know that he's followed 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:20.960 it very well and and he's I'm sure able to 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:24.280 adapt and adjust. But but to have a first time 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.600 head coach in the National Football League with the with 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:30.440 the general manager that has experienced and high level experience, 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:33.760 who has taken teams to a super Bowl, championship, etcetera, 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.120 I think it's critical and I think it's it's a 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:39.560 smart move by all. And I don't know exactly ultimately 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:41.360 who was responsible, and you would think that it was 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:45.080 shot Kahn's decision, but obviously with a lot of influence 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.440 from from urban Meyer, and that's the way it should be. 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:51.200 And I think that the experience are surrounding a first 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:54.400 time NFL coach with experience is probably not going to 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.360 stop there. It's probably gonna be a little bit more 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:00.360 with his own staff and and it will be also 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:05.960 interesting to see who Trent Balky surrounds himself with because 0:08:06.960 --> 0:08:10.040 change is gonna come. Change is coming within the personnel 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.720 department because and some of it already has happened. He's 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:16.000 already brought one guy on that he trusts immenseally, and 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.240 and I'm sure that there will be some adjustments at 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:22.040 the staff as as as the off season rolls along. Oh, yes, 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.040 change is near And one of the biggest things that 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:27.040 will pay attention to this offseason, it's obviously the NFL Draft. 0:08:27.160 --> 0:08:29.920 Eleven draft picks, you have five in the first three rounds. So, 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.360 Trent Bulky, what is the outlook of the NFL draft 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.360 this year? We're always going to look at the value 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:40.760 of a player. Uh, and value matters that it matters 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:43.360 in in where in their value is to where you 0:08:43.440 --> 0:08:45.920 draft them, how much you pay them, how much you 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:50.559 pay them in free agency? Uh. Need Uh, We're We're 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:54.760 a value based team. Need not a needs based Well, 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:58.000 you always have needs regardless of when you set the 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:02.040 fifty three. So the best player available is usually the 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.520 direction you want to go, but yet you have to 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:06.840 keep in mind the needs of the organization as well 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:10.560 and the team. Yeah, alright, Jeff, I know you love 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:13.800 the best player available. That's something good to hear. Well. 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:17.160 I think I've always been the best available player type guy. 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:20.720 I think because when you when you start going after needs, 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:22.640 you have a tendency to start to reach and you 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.880 start to adjust your board based on on well, we 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:29.120 need a right cornerback or we need a left safety. 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:30.880 And I'm making terms up because I don't want to 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:34.439 pinpoint anybody. And we need a new ozone writer. You know, 0:09:34.600 --> 0:09:36.640 you know what I mean. I mean, you can't. You're 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:39.680 just kidding, Johnny, just kidding, Johnny, just kidding. But my 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:42.520 point is is that I think if you go back 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:44.000 and you look at the history of the draft and 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.360 you wonder how this franchise could be different if they 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.080 had taken some of the best available players and not 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:52.440 by reaching for need. I think that the the history 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:56.280 of this franchise would be vastly different. And uh and John, 0:09:56.480 --> 0:09:59.760 but there are certain positions that are premium positions that 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.240 a lot of people say, well, you're you're reaching for 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.560 that position. I'm not a big believer, and that's saying 0:10:04.600 --> 0:10:07.160 that that's a reach for certain positions because the position 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:10.640 certainly has Some positions have a premium attached to it 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.200 which makes them more valuable from the very good go. 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:18.280 I've always said, Jeff, there's not a lot of gms 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.840 walking around the NFL during training camp and looking at 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.560 their roster and saying, man, we have too many good players, 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:28.280 you know. And the point being there is if you 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:29.760 sit there in the draft said what we need here, 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:34.400 we need here, we need if if you quote mess 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:38.480 up and draft an elite guy at linebacker behind another 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.000 elite guy linebacker, you know what You've got, Jeff, two 0:10:41.040 --> 0:10:44.200 elite players. So I'm all best available. I think it 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.840 always works. There are times you have to do certain 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:50.280 things in the draft where if guys are close, then yeah, 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:54.040 you go with a certain position. But uh, your news flash. 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:57.319 Right now, this team doesn't have too many elite players. 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:00.720 It's gonna be easy for them to go best available, 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.360 best available very early. And I'm looking forward to seeing 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:05.680 how they do it because I think a big theme 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:09.840 right now is Urban may never have been in the NFL, 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:14.360 but he knows exactly what he wants, competitiveness, speed. I 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.920 think it's to be really easy for Balky and the 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:22.319 scouting staff to trent him, to scout for him, because 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.040 he's going to be very clear in what he wants 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.200 and what it's gonna take for him to win. Yeah. 0:11:26.360 --> 0:11:29.040 I just only add one thing is that because John 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:30.960 was talking about okay, if you have equal values, then 0:11:31.000 --> 0:11:35.120 you take need. I believe that in you don't do 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:38.480 that until you get to a certain round. I think 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:42.120 that you take best available player regardless, and rounds one, two, 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:45.920 and three that's typically where you get your premium position. 0:11:45.960 --> 0:11:50.920 I think when you start to get two rounds five, six, seven, Okay, look, 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:54.080 if there is a position that you need and you've 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.680 got equal values, then you then you take the position 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:59.680 of need. But I think you get on a slippery 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.000 slow when you start saying, well, you know, we we 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:04.520 really need this position these guys. You know, this guy 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.760 only has maybe two tents of a point higher grade 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.000 than this other guy, so let's take him because he's 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:13.400 he plays right tackle. We need a right tackle. I 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:14.959 think that's where you get caught up and you make 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:18.840 mistakes because even though two tenses is not much you 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:20.720 don't think, but you know what two tents might be 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.559 the difference between being a tenure player and a guy 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:25.520 who lasts, you know, for a biscuit and a cup 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:28.320 of coffee, you know, so, uh, it can make a 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:31.000 big difference. In my opinion, I don't want a biscuit 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.400 and a cup of coffee, that's for sure. Eleven draft 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:35.200 picks coming up. Want to get all of these right. 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:38.160 Coming up in this offseason, there's still a coaching search 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:41.360 going on building this coaching staff. 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You know, 0:17:20.440 --> 0:17:24.159 it will be reporting to me, but everybody in the organization. 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.880 I mean, we're gonna be, you know, carrying out obviously 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:30.400 Urban's vision of the team and the kind of players 0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:34.440 we want. Who ought to be is general manager. Trent 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:38.080 Bulky announced today as the Jaguars new general manager, and 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:41.040 that was Owner's shot com on the hiring of Urban Meyer, 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:44.840 both of them reporting directly to him. Welcome back Jaguars 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:48.080 Happy Hour, Ashland Sullivan and for JP on much needed 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:52.800 vacation here with Jeff Logman and John Osier. So general manager, 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:55.920 head coach checked off the list. Now you gotta fill 0:17:55.960 --> 0:17:58.280 a coaching staff, and there are all kinds of interviews, 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:00.800 all kinds of reports going on. So let's look at 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:05.000 offense first. For some reason, these names are much less 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:09.000 reported than defense. But you have Scotland Ahn, Anthony Lynn, 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:12.359 hence the question mark, and next to offensive coordinator. How 0:18:12.440 --> 0:18:15.399 do you figure this out? There's also reports that George 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:18.520 Warhop will stay on as offensive line coach. But Jeff, 0:18:18.520 --> 0:18:20.960 I'll go to you first, say, in a perfect world, 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:23.240 do you get Anthony Lynn and Scotland a hand in? 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:27.600 Who's the O C? How does that work? Well? I 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:31.520 think it's a great question, But a lot of times 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:33.359 I think a coach will give you a little bit 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.800 of coach speak with an answer like that and say that, hey, 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:40.200 look it's a collaboration. It's gonna be me the head coach, uh, 0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:45.159 Scott lind A Hahan and Anthony Lynn. So I think 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:48.240 that there has to be one person that has the 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:50.639 final say, and there has to be somebody that is 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:54.120 calling the plays. But I think also it's very important 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:56.480 that you get as much talent as you possibly can. 0:18:56.560 --> 0:18:59.639 And and I understand that there's a great relationship with 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:03.160 Scott Lanahan there. Scott Lanahan has kind of been down 0:19:03.200 --> 0:19:05.679 the road as far as looking for that next step. 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:08.560 And I think if you're urban Meyer, the one thing 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:10.320 that you'd like to be able to do, because you're 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:14.280 probably gonna be drafting a young quarterback Trevor Lawrence, you 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.720 want to make sure that you can have consistency there 0:19:17.160 --> 0:19:20.439 on the offensive side of the ball. Uh. So my 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:23.160 expectation is it would be somebody that would be less 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:26.280 apt to leave to take that next opportunity as a 0:19:26.320 --> 0:19:28.800 head coach. And I think Anthony Lenna has had a 0:19:28.840 --> 0:19:30.639 taste of that. So but I mean, I don't know. 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:34.240 I could be wrong, but uh, it'll be interesting to watch. 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.600 But you've got to have somebody that you can expect 0:19:36.680 --> 0:19:40.520 to have for more than just a short amount of time. 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:42.760 You've got to have some consistency at that position with 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:45.280 the young quarterback, right, want to build that And John, 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:47.320 we've been talking about this the past couple of days. 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:49.439 For some reason, there's this, I guess you can call 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:53.040 it a rumor that urban Meyer only wants college coaches 0:19:53.080 --> 0:19:55.399 around him or experience with college and we take a 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:57.600 look at these lists and that's not the case. So 0:19:57.640 --> 0:19:59.680 we're not really sure where that's coming from, but it's 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:03.000 clear he wants NFL experience around him. The guy who 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:06.760 knows what he's doing here. Well, it's kind of goes 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:11.679 without saying, you don't win three college national championships if 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:14.680 you're not a smart guy. He's smart enough to know 0:20:15.200 --> 0:20:18.119 that he needs experience around him in the NFL as 0:20:18.119 --> 0:20:21.040 he makes this transition. Scott Lenahan makes a lot of sense. 0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:25.880 As Jeff alluded to when Urban was at Bowling Green, 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:28.200 I think getting the dates right in two thousand one 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:31.960 when he was making the transition, it actually scratched that 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:34.719 was before that as an assistant when he was figuring 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:38.200 out the spread. He visited with Scott Linehan when Lenahan 0:20:38.320 --> 0:20:41.520 was at Louisville, so there is a strong connection there. 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:46.040 Linahan also has a world of NFL experience. He's been 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:48.240 a head coach. He's obviously not gonna be a head 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:51.000 coach here, so he has that experience. He knows what 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:54.080 a coordinator does, He's got NFL experience. To me, that 0:20:54.119 --> 0:20:56.560 one makes a lot of sense. Anthony Lynn makes sense 0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:58.320 for the same reason. But those are the reasons that 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:01.960 you're seeing those names. The experienced level of Lynn. But 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:06.280 the Lenahan Meyer connection is a very solid, very real thing. 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:10.240 But to your question, Ashlyn, he absolutely knows he needs 0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:15.040 NFL experience. I expect more coaches on this staff to 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:17.840 have NFL experience than not. That's just a guess, but 0:21:17.880 --> 0:21:20.280 that's what it feels like. I think a lot of 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:23.760 people would would ask two or might suggest, Okay, well, 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:26.560 well Anthony Lynn can help urban Meyer be a head 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:29.439 coach in the NFL because Anthony Lynn has been a 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:32.560 head coach before. Irban Meyer doesn't need any healthy and 0:21:32.640 --> 0:21:37.679 head coach. Okay, urban Byer, He's okay, he's qualified in 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:39.840 that category. I don't care if it's college or if 0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:43.680 it's the pro game. The head coach that that doesn't 0:21:43.760 --> 0:21:46.080 change much. Obviously the game is a little bit different 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:48.760 and there's some some nuancewers. But if you know how 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:50.359 to head coach, you know how to head coach at 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:52.679 any level. You can coach Pee wee, you can coach NFL, 0:21:52.840 --> 0:21:55.040 you can go to college, it doesn't matter. Yeah, I 0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:57.639 think he's good there, to say the least. And Johnny 0:21:57.640 --> 0:22:01.240 he could interesting well, he could even coach that team 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:03.640 that you have over your right shoulders. That a football team. 0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:07.360 By the way, the Jacksonville sharksould not have an arena team. 0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:10.919 It was a WFL team back when we were kids. Jeff, 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:13.080 I was gonna say, when I was a kid, But 0:22:13.119 --> 0:22:15.159 don't kid yourself. You're as old as I am. So 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:19.959 it was back in the WFL, the Jacksonville Sharks and 0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:22.800 Jacksonville Express back to back seventy four and seventy five. 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:26.280 A point on what you were making. Jeff urban Meyer 0:22:26.320 --> 0:22:29.520 has been a head coach for seventeen years. If you 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:33.160 add up the head coaching experience of all the coaches 0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:37.639 who have ever been Jaguars head coaches, that's more and 0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:41.240 any of them had put together. Now Doug Marone had 0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:44.399 been a head coach in the NFL. But I agree 0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:48.280 with you, Jeff. If you can coach, lead, set a tone, 0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:51.439 you can do it at any level. The nuances of 0:22:51.480 --> 0:22:54.760 the game, learning the schemes, learning how this league works. 0:22:55.680 --> 0:22:58.880 That'll be a study for ban Meyer. But seventeen years 0:22:58.920 --> 0:23:03.240 of experience, he can lead men, He can lead an organization. 0:23:03.840 --> 0:23:05.760 And a lot lot of people say, well, there's been 0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:08.600 other college coaches that have moved on to the NFL 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:12.639 and they didn't have success. Well, look, you gotta have 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:16.040 good players too. Okay, coaching matters. You've got to have 0:23:16.080 --> 0:23:18.159 good coaches, then you also have to have good players. 0:23:18.200 --> 0:23:20.639 When you put the two of them together, you've got 0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:23.719 a great chance. And that's where Trent Balky is so 0:23:23.840 --> 0:23:26.960 very important to the success of this this football organization 0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:29.639 and Urban Meyer gotta have. You gotta have everybody working 0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:31.359 together and be able to have the right tools to 0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:32.720 be able to win. If you don't have the right tools, 0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:34.879 you're not gonna win. You have the greatest coach in 0:23:34.880 --> 0:23:37.240 the world. And if you don't have the players in 0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:40.760 the NFL, you're you're gonna be okay, but you're not 0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:44.600 gonna be the contender. You just it's just the reality. 0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:47.240 You gotta have got a players, got to have tools 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:49.280 in the toolbox. I don't know who said that, but 0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:51.840 I've heard it before. All right, let's look at defense. 0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:55.560 Joe Colin is reported to be the defensive coordinator for 0:23:55.680 --> 0:23:57.640 the Jaguars. Were hearing his name throwing out all over 0:23:57.640 --> 0:23:59.720 there along with these names that you're seeing right now. 0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:03.359 So John, tell me why Joe Colin is the clear 0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:05.800 favorite for this and why he would fit the job 0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:10.640 as defensive coordinator. Reportedly, of course, Oh, I know Jeff 0:24:10.680 --> 0:24:13.600 has a lot of thoughts too, And Jeff knew uh 0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:15.719 Joe for three years, probably him a little bit better 0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:18.679 than I did. I knew Joe for two years when 0:24:18.720 --> 0:24:21.960 I first got back to Jacksonville. Why would he be 0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:26.280 a coordinator? Because he knows football, He's an incredible motivator. 0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.520 He's incredibly well respected within the NFL. There is a 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:32.760 great relationship between he and Urban Meyer that goes back 0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:37.480 a long way. You know, I'm biased, and I think 0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:40.119 everybody is who knows Joe Aston. You haven't met him, 0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:44.000 but Jeff can attest to this. A fantastic, first rate 0:24:44.119 --> 0:24:47.040 human being. When you get a guy like this in 0:24:47.080 --> 0:24:51.000 your building, you're better for it, no matter what role 0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:53.960 it is. As defensive coordinator. Has never been that before, 0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:56.080 but he has been one of the best line coaches 0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:58.879 he's been in Baltimore. He is ready for this job. 0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:01.920 If he gets that, I have no doubt that he's 0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:04.239 a major impact, and you got to make sure that 0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:08.000 we I gotta correct you, John. He doesn't coach defensive line. 0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:13.160 He coaches Rushman. Okay, he's changed the term. I mean, 0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:15.800 Joe Collin changed the term. He likes to call him Rushman. 0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:19.040 And uh and and John is dead on the money. 0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:21.520 Joe Colin is a is a eight number one, top 0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:25.159 notch guy. He's never been a defensive coordinator before. But 0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:27.439 you also, if you look at that list of names, 0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:30.560 there's some names on there that have been defensive coordinators before. 0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:34.720 Anthony Weaver, Charlie Strong obviously has an immense amount of experience. 0:25:35.000 --> 0:25:39.320 And so once again, it's title sometimes don't mean everything. 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:41.920 I mean, obviously, somebody ultimately has to have to say. 0:25:41.960 --> 0:25:44.840 But when you get a bunch of bright minds together, 0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:47.480 then you have a great chance. And and Joe Colin 0:25:47.640 --> 0:25:51.560 is a is a super sharp guy, quality guy. Love 0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:55.200 him and uh. In fact, when I heard that there 0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:57.520 was a rumor or there was a whisper in the 0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:00.600 news media that he may be interviewing, I'll just texting 0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:03.280 him right away. I said, Joe, come on back to Jacksonville. 0:26:03.600 --> 0:26:05.600 Good dude, gave him outfit tips all of that. What 0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:08.080 am I hearing? John? I guess you can attest this 0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:09.720 to you. I've heard of practice might get a little 0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:12.600 loud if he joins in he's pretty loud. Yeah, Joe's 0:26:12.640 --> 0:26:17.600 pretty loud. And we'll probably get the dirt pitt back. 0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:20.840 Remember the dirt pit, Jeff, where you probably more about 0:26:20.880 --> 0:26:24.360 than I did. But he's got certain drills, and he's 0:26:24.359 --> 0:26:26.520 got a drill or the offensive linemen have to get 0:26:26.560 --> 0:26:28.320 down there could be at a certain level. Jeff can 0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:32.000 attest to it more than me. But yeah, I read 0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:34.679 something about Joe a couple of days ago, and I 0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:37.400 didn't think of it, and I wish I had. When 0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:39.640 you watch Joe Colin coach, he's one of the few 0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:43.359 coaches where other position groups stop and watch him coach 0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:48.119 because he's so good at it and so dynamic. Again, 0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:50.399 Jeff and you and I are in the same page 0:26:50.720 --> 0:26:55.760 fingers crossed that he's the guy. Yeah, uh, I think 0:26:55.760 --> 0:26:57.880 it'd be a good higher and in Ashlyon, I'm telling 0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:01.119 you there's been a few guys National Football League and 0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:03.399 and being a former defensive line and I always watched 0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:07.480 the defensive line coaches very very closely, and because I 0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:09.600 want to hear what they're saying, I want to hear 0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.639 their style, I want to hear what they're teaching. Because 0:27:13.440 --> 0:27:17.119 I think I'm pretty educated in that department. And uh, 0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:19.400 and Joe is one of those guys that I never 0:27:19.480 --> 0:27:22.000 second guest everything he said. I'm like, he's dead on 0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:24.560 the money. And Joe was always one of those guys 0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:27.159 too that would would ask a lot of questions. He 0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:30.200 never felt like he knew everything, and he would ask 0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:33.640 questions of me. He would ask questions of any defensive 0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:36.040 line that he came across. He would talk to Tony 0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:38.800 Basselli and say, Hey, Tony, what do you think about this? 0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:41.160 What was so hard about blocking that? You know? So 0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:44.000 he's a guy that I think it was constantly learning. 0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:46.160 And uh. And I know that a lot of people 0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:47.879 want to bring up something that might have happened in 0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:50.240 his past. But I can tell you if we all 0:27:50.280 --> 0:27:52.720 had something brought up from our past, and I can 0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:55.400 be the first one to admit it, okay that uh, 0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:58.480 that everybody might have an embarrassing moment in the past, 0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:00.080 and I would have one. Johnny, you would probab you 0:28:00.119 --> 0:28:02.080 have one. And I can tell you firsthand that that 0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:04.840 ponytail wasn't very cool, even though you might have thought 0:28:04.880 --> 0:28:10.000 it was. But but but I mean, look the past 0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:12.280 of the past, and Joe Collins are good man, I 0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:14.520 love to hear it. Yes, John, thank you for your time, 0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:17.760 and we'll leave you to the debating the ponytail versus 0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:20.160 the haircut you have. Now we'll stay tuned for your writing. 0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:23.440 Like the beer Johnny's got going out, Johnny, I like that. Hey, 0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:29.879 there was no debate, Jeff that Ponytail was Boss. It 0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:33.200 was like it was like this, Thanks guys, I've heard, 0:28:33.240 --> 0:28:35.359 I've seen pictures. I don't want to bring him back up. 0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:40.080 I'm just scared that. John Oshan just said Boss the radio, 0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:45.360 that that's like old. I mean, that's like shows your age, right, Boss. 0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:50.200 It was more of a bun, like a bun Joe, 0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:54.560 even worse, even like att Yeah, what't it was like 0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:57.640 that long Jaguars Happy I will spare you the images 0:28:57.800 --> 0:29:01.840 of John Osier's man bun pony Tale coming out, Boss, 0:29:01.880 --> 0:29:04.520 pony Tail, Yes, say it right? Tony Baselly might have 0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:07.760 some input on this coming up Jaguars Happy Hour on 0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:21.080 the Jaguars Digital Network. Headquartered right here in Jacksonville, the 0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:23.520 c s I Companies is one of the fastest growing 0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:26.480 staffing firms in the nation. 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Is this the very best? 0:33:19.760 --> 0:33:22.040 And if it's not, then, especially when you start talking 0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:25.160 about player welfare and safety and then just the players, 0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:27.200 and if it's not the very best, let's have a 0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:30.200 chat and do what's very best, because you know, the 0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:33.800 Jacksonville players are gonna get pushed, they're gonna get pushed. 0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:36.120 In return, we give them the very best. That includes 0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:39.080 with the coaching staff. Number one. The coaching staff. You know, 0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:42.120 does a big hot tub much different than well, have 0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:43.920 that much of a difference. I didn't say that, but 0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:45.360 I just want to make sure it's the best of 0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:50.080 the best, and in Shod is very committed to that. 0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:57.920 Possible facility upgrades coming see question mark. We'll talk about it. 0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:01.360 We're back. Jaguars happy our Ashland sell than Jeff Logerman 0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:07.240 and speaking of upgrades, Tony Baselli joins us, Now, I 0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:10.680 didn't mean to Jeff. It wasn't It wasn't a shot 0:34:10.760 --> 0:34:13.520 towards Jeff. I was just saying, you know, look, oh 0:34:13.719 --> 0:34:16.359 you guys are starting drama. I don't want any part 0:34:16.400 --> 0:34:20.239 of that. Tony. How are you yet? Well, first of all, 0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:23.480 I agree, I think it is an upgrade having me 0:34:23.520 --> 0:34:29.400 over Jeff. I mean the rest of the show, it's 0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:36.760 going to be drawing, no whatever, whatever. All right, Tony, 0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:41.719 we can talk to you. How what are we thinking? Uh? 0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.600 What do I think about what what he said there? 0:34:45.280 --> 0:34:47.440 Him being the head coach, you know, the GM. I mean, 0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:49.920 there's so many things happen right here. Uh yeah, it's 0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:53.480 a lot of information. I mean not a lot of activity. Um. 0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:56.120 The one thing is for sure. I mean it is 0:34:56.160 --> 0:35:01.000 a splash higher um, and it's big news and it's 0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:04.719 a in They shot. Khan went after urban Meyer. He 0:35:04.840 --> 0:35:07.400 got him. Um. He wanted to get a guy who's 0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:11.920 led been a bona fide qualified top end leader. Now 0:35:11.920 --> 0:35:13.759 it's in the college game, not the pro game, but 0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:18.680 still he's one everywhere he's been and Shot is basically saying, listen, 0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:20.520 I'm gonna get a guy here who can lead this 0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:22.759 organization and bring it back, and I'm gonna bring a 0:35:22.760 --> 0:35:24.319 guy who's done it before. It might not be in 0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:28.640 this exact arena, meaning the Pro game, but it's hard 0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:31.879 to argue that. The guys one everywhere. So um, it's 0:35:31.880 --> 0:35:34.120 exciting and there's a lot of exciting things going on 0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:38.480 right now. Um, and it's gonna be an really interesting offseason. 0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:41.480 We will not be short on news this offseason, that's 0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:45.040 one thing for sure. Yes, and that is good news 0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:48.560 for this Thursday show. And Jeff, I've heard some people say, oh, 0:35:48.600 --> 0:35:50.359 he's coming right in here and he has a plan 0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:53.280 of upgrading the facilities, and it was almost a negative 0:35:53.320 --> 0:35:55.719 connotation towards that, But I don't feel that way. He's 0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:59.280 coming from Ohio State, Florida, these big time college football programs, 0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:01.640 Well that's the arms race in college football. If he 0:36:01.680 --> 0:36:04.279 wants a facility, give the man a facility. Well, look 0:36:04.280 --> 0:36:07.799 it's it's in college football. The arms race is real. 0:36:08.200 --> 0:36:12.000 And that's facilities Alabama, the Clemsons, I mean, all these 0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:14.960 big time programs. It it is a war of facilities 0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:18.280 because it's a huge recruiting tool and in the National 0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:21.680 Football League you're not necessarily per se recruiting, but in 0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:24.719 some sense you are in free agency, and so you 0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:28.000 want to have as many as many tools in your toolbag, 0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:30.640 so to speak, as far as positive to tract players. 0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:35.480 But UM, Tony and I would agree that, Look, you 0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:38.319 can always improve the facilities and you always want to 0:36:38.320 --> 0:36:41.279 give the players the best of the best. Does that 0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:46.960 necessarily mean a new facility? Maybe? Does that mean a 0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:49.400 an upgrade to the current facilities? Is that you have 0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:51.520 on an expansion to that? I mean, it could mean 0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:54.320 a lot of things, But I think Urban's whole point 0:36:54.400 --> 0:36:57.680 is give the players the best, to expect the best 0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:00.960 in return, right, And that's air Tony. You heard him 0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:03.160 say in the stock coming back a hot tub. I 0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.520 don't think he's saying in that singular tone, but there's 0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:09.839 no secret this building could use some upgrades. And that's okay. Yeah, 0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:12.440 and I think that's the right mentality. You want to 0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:16.480 be the best of everything. But I will say for me, Um, 0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:21.000 your facilities are secondary. Um while important, and you want 0:37:21.000 --> 0:37:22.360 to have you know, you want to make sure the 0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:24.680 players are taken care of and you're giving them the best. 0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:28.800 To his points, because you're to expect the best. Um, 0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:30.480 But at the end, of the day. Let's be realistic. 0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:33.960 Facilities aren't. You can't overnight great new facilities. Now you 0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:37.520 can upgrade some internal facilities and do you know, put 0:37:37.560 --> 0:37:41.440 some you know, nice finishes around and do some nice things. 0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:43.440 But as far as the hold you know, wholesale new 0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:46.120 facilities and new practice facilities and buildings everything else, that 0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:49.840 takes years. UM. And So while I love it that 0:37:49.880 --> 0:37:52.480 we should always be progressing and shooting for the stars 0:37:52.520 --> 0:37:55.560 and investing and get bringing the best and expecting the best, 0:37:55.600 --> 0:37:59.400 no doubt about it, I think the bigger message and 0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:01.279 I think what I've heard him say as well, it's like, 0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:04.640 we're going to create the best atmosphere for the for 0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:07.840 this organization, best coaches. We're gonna demand of the players. 0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:10.200 We're gonna treat the players the right way. We'll do 0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:13.360 all these things and create the right culture and atmosphere 0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:16.000 with the right standard UM, and we expect to win, 0:38:16.680 --> 0:38:21.000 because if you look at winning, you know what you're 0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:23.040 measured by the wins and losses. It's not you know, 0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:25.680 how great your facilities are, not um, It's about what 0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:27.400 are you putting on the field, And to put the 0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:30.319 right product on the field which produces wins. It's all 0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:32.560 about getting the right people in the building, and that 0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:35.279 starts with the right players and the right coaches and 0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:37.759 in the right personnel, people that are aligned with the 0:38:37.800 --> 0:38:40.160 coaches to pick the players and design it, and the 0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.760 right support staff that is gonna support the coaches and players. 0:38:43.000 --> 0:38:44.920 It's all about getting the right people in the right 0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:47.799 system in place, um of how we do things. And 0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:50.480 I think that's what you know Urban has done in 0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:54.160 the past, you know, at places like Ohio State and Florida, 0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:56.040 and I expect him to do the same thing here. 0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:59.399 I think the facilities well, yes, nice, Yes, I hope 0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:01.400 we get them. Yes, I hope we invest. And I 0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.759 think Sean will he's never been try to invest. There's 0:39:03.760 --> 0:39:07.120 no doubt about that. UM. To me, that secondary it's 0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:10.240 about getting the right people, the right process, the right culture, 0:39:10.560 --> 0:39:12.560 and setting the right standard of how we do things. 0:39:12.920 --> 0:39:18.560 As Jacksonville Jaguars right Tony and his introductory interview with JP, 0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:21.920 Shatterkey said, I want to treat players great, not good, 0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:23.560 and that was good to hear, especially with all the 0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:26.040 drama that's been around with free agency. Jeff, you kind 0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:27.960 of want to set the tone right here right now 0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:30.160 that it is going to be a busy free agency period. 0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:32.399 We're gonna do it the right way. And I don't 0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:35.080 think he means okay, And and Tony will attest to 0:39:35.120 --> 0:39:36.920 this when when a coach says that we want to 0:39:36.920 --> 0:39:42.239 treat our players great, it doesn't mean that you pamper them. Yeah, 0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:45.360 I mean this is this is not the health club 0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:48.200 where you get manny petties and back rubs and neck 0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:52.000 rubs while you're studying the playbook. I mean, it's it's football. 0:39:52.040 --> 0:39:54.680 But you want to have the players to have the 0:39:54.719 --> 0:39:56.920 best of the best. And I will say this is 0:39:56.960 --> 0:40:01.040 that shot con in this organization has never skimped on 0:40:01.200 --> 0:40:04.080 making sure that the players have the best of the best. 0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.600 The dining hall, the food, the best of the best. 0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:12.719 We get to experience that first thing they have besides therapy, 0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:15.320 they have all these other things that are available to 0:40:15.400 --> 0:40:21.120 players and readily available and have for a number of years, nutritionists, everything. So, uh, 0:40:21.400 --> 0:40:24.160 Tony's right, And that look tomorrow, all of a sudden, 0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:26.680 there's not gonna be a brand new facility out there 0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:29.400 to where you go, welcome to the new facility. You know, 0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:31.640 you gotta win some football games, but treat your players 0:40:31.680 --> 0:40:33.120 the best of the the best of what you have, and 0:40:33.160 --> 0:40:35.719 in the meantime, if you are looking at upgrading or 0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:38.920 doing something completely separate, that's all fine and Danny, but 0:40:40.239 --> 0:40:43.760 treat the players great, and Peter, treat them with respect, 0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:45.520 but you don't pamper them as well if you treat 0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:48.680 them like professionals. And there's a lot of organizations out 0:40:48.719 --> 0:40:50.960 there in the National Football League that are considered the 0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:53.000 best of the best as far as doing some of that, 0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:55.080 and they're the ones that are typically winning year in 0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:57.560 and year out. So you want to try to continue 0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:00.759 to or to change the way you do things more 0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:03.520 in line with some of the teams that historically have 0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:07.560 success Urine in euro So let's talk about that a 0:41:07.560 --> 0:41:09.120 little bit more, Jeff, because I want to talk about 0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:13.600 this whole concept of treating players great. Um, because everything 0:41:13.640 --> 0:41:16.239 you said is true. You're like, but every team can 0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:19.680 do that. Every team can have massage therapists, every team 0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:22.799 can have good food, and every team can have you know, 0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:26.480 all the you know, nice things that help a player 0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:30.480 get ready, all great things. I don't think I think 0:41:30.480 --> 0:41:32.680 that's only part of it. Because when I think about 0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:34.320 and Jeff, I love your perspective on this when I 0:41:34.360 --> 0:41:37.239 think about what the players want, and I think it's 0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:39.720 a couple of things. One, players want to go somewhere 0:41:39.719 --> 0:41:42.920 where they know they can get better, like like you like, 0:41:42.960 --> 0:41:45.600 they're gonna become better players, and they have a chance 0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:49.640 to succeed because if they succeed, that's you know, will 0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:54.360 translate hopefully to wins, but also translates into monetary value 0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:57.279 of their services in the future. So One, players want 0:41:57.280 --> 0:41:59.160 to go somewhere they feel like they're getting better to 0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:02.120 a big thing, and I think this is critical. Players 0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:04.960 want to feel valued. They want to feel their services 0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:09.000 are valued. What they do matters and that's important. And 0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:10.400 the way you do that you have to be able 0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:12.640 to build relationships with players. They have to know you. 0:42:12.840 --> 0:42:14.680 They have to know that the organization cares about what 0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:17.560 they're doing, who they are in the sacrifice and the 0:42:17.600 --> 0:42:20.040 work they're putting in that it matters. The third thing 0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:22.920 I think they wanted consistency. I never I'm not a 0:42:22.920 --> 0:42:27.360 big believer that players um are expecting to be treated 0:42:27.440 --> 0:42:30.480 and like you know, there's always this hard coaches player coaches, 0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:33.120 both of one. What's the one thing both those haven't 0:42:33.640 --> 0:42:36.160 in common is they're consistent. Players want to know what 0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:39.080 to expect. They don't like surprises. They want to know 0:42:39.120 --> 0:42:42.760 what to expect, what the rules are, and that they're enforced, 0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:44.960 and that they show up every day to work and 0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:47.880 there's a consistency with the head coach and the coaching staff. 0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:50.279 And it doesn't change. When you win, everyone's happy. When 0:42:50.280 --> 0:42:52.879 you lose, everyone's visible. You know. I think back, Jeff, 0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:55.000 when you and I played here. Tom Conflin was consistent. 0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:58.160 Every day. He was miserable every day. It didn't matter 0:42:58.200 --> 0:43:01.080 if you won or loss. It was the same thing. 0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:03.040 Hard on you. It was in a drive. But as 0:43:03.080 --> 0:43:05.920 a player, you knew what to expect. There were a structure, 0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:09.279 and you didn't always like the way he did it. 0:43:09.320 --> 0:43:12.560 And I'm not saying that might work today in today's NFL, 0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:15.799 I think, but if you're consistent, you can build relationships 0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:18.960 to players that they know they're valued and their services 0:43:18.960 --> 0:43:22.360 are valued and you're helping them have success. That is 0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:26.000 creating a great atmosphere for players, because that's what they 0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:28.279 all do want. The rest of it is easy. It's 0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:30.520 easy to go higher a massage therapist, it's easy to 0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:32.360 go get good food, it's easy to do all that. 0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:36.120 The hard work is can you build a culture where 0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:39.680 players want to be there, where they feel valued, they 0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:42.840 feel appreciated, they have relationships, and they feel like they 0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:45.320 have an opportunity to get better and win. That's ultimately 0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:47.120 what they want to do, and they want to get paid. 0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:50.120 I mean, if you can do that, then I think 0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:54.200 that's a great environment for players. Yeah. I think the 0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:58.000 other thing too, that the Jacksonville has kind of a 0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:00.600 built in advantage. I think over a lot of other teams, 0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:06.400 Tony talks about money, cost of living and uh and 0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:09.600 and what the state tax situation is. I mean, obviously 0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:13.600 that provides a huge boost. But the ability to attract 0:44:13.680 --> 0:44:17.960 coaches to Jacksonville is easy because coaches love it here, 0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:21.680 and so Urbans is able to attract a lot of 0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:24.480 coaches that that that I'm sure that he wants because 0:44:24.520 --> 0:44:27.200 of the prospect of living in Jacksonville. I mean, look 0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:29.480 at the number of coaches that have come through here 0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:32.800 that have stayed here. I mean it's it's the list 0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:36.759 is long and so and I think from that standpoint 0:44:36.760 --> 0:44:39.560 to for some players that that is very attractive to 0:44:39.600 --> 0:44:42.279 some players as well. And there's some players that would 0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:44.799 rather have in Atlanta, or have in New York, or 0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.480 have some of bigger markets and and for whatever reason, 0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:51.359 but uh, if you if you can capitalize on all 0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:54.040 the things that Tony talked about and make sure that 0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:57.359 all those are in place, because Tony is right, consistency 0:44:57.440 --> 0:45:01.240 and expectations, all knowing what what a player is expected 0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:03.759 to do in et cetera. Like Tom Couflin said about it, 0:45:03.880 --> 0:45:06.640 it is that doesn't change. You just don't have to 0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:11.799 be so dagon gruff about it like Tom Cauflin. And 0:45:11.840 --> 0:45:16.560 that's the relationships your face and still be the same way. Well, 0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:20.160 I think in today's players and even in our world today, 0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:22.160 you have to be able to build a relationship with people. 0:45:22.200 --> 0:45:24.520 People will go much further for you when they know 0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.000 you care about them. Um. And you, by the way, 0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:29.640 you can coach people much harder when they know you 0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:33.400 care and you know you they that they're appreciated. And 0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:36.840 I think that is critical um and listen, Urban Doses 0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:39.080 he coached college. I mean he had a bunch of 0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:40.920 five stars and four stars that he had to make 0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:43.640 sure that he had relationships with it. He could coach 0:45:43.640 --> 0:45:46.600 hard and be demanding and do all the things and 0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:48.840 staff want to do. You only can do that today 0:45:48.960 --> 0:45:52.200 if you're building relationships. If you're consistent, the players trust you. 0:45:52.200 --> 0:45:54.799 You have to build trust. Um And and I can't 0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:58.000 emphasize enough. Most players, and any player worth their soul, 0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:00.520 good players who want to be great. They all want 0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:03.040 to get better. And guess what if you proved to 0:46:03.120 --> 0:46:05.760 a player that you can help them achieve their goals, 0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:08.680 it's amazing how much harder you can coach them and 0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:10.799 set the expectations. And this is who we are and 0:46:10.800 --> 0:46:13.279 this is how we do things. Um And. I think 0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:16.080 those are really key things. I think at times have 0:46:16.160 --> 0:46:20.759 probably been you know, missing right Tony and Jeff, you 0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:22.920 mentioned that a lot of coaches come here and they 0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:25.040 want to stay here. And I remember the argument when 0:46:25.200 --> 0:46:26.879 the New York Jets gave up the number one pick 0:46:26.920 --> 0:46:29.200 and they're like, ah, Trevor Lawrence, he might be so 0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:30.839 upset he doesn't get to go to New York. Now 0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:32.839 he might have to go to Jacksonville. And urban Meyer 0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:35.400 has said, you know, they're looking at all quarterbacks. If 0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:37.960 it is Trevor Lawrence, it doesn't seem like be like 0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:39.600 the worst thing in the world that he gets to 0:46:39.640 --> 0:46:42.800 come possibly live in Pontovidro with no state income tax. 0:46:42.840 --> 0:46:45.200 And I don't think he's gonna be that upset. No, 0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:48.800 it's uh that that's just I think that's other market 0:46:48.880 --> 0:46:51.960 job being jealous and uh, you know, and I think 0:46:52.000 --> 0:46:54.839 that's all that is. And and and look at it's 0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:56.799 and a lot of people say, well, you go to 0:46:56.800 --> 0:46:59.040 a Jacksonville's a smaller market also, and you're not gonna 0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:02.120 have opportunities to be able to be on the national stage. 0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:05.920 The NFL doesn't matter whether you're in Green Bay, Jacksonville, 0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:09.480 New York. Uh, you're gonna have a ton of opportunities 0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:13.200 if you're a good football player. And so opportunities follow 0:47:13.280 --> 0:47:15.400 good football players. And if Trevor Lawrence is a really 0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:17.440 good football player, who have all you want right here 0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:20.720 in Jacksonville. And guess what, it also follows, Jeff winning 0:47:22.480 --> 0:47:27.200 good football players and winning. You gotta win. And and 0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:29.319 that's what this places has has to be out first 0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:32.120 and foremost. We're gonna, you know, create a process, get 0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:34.720 the right people on board, both from a players standpoint, 0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:36.840 from a coaching standpoint, for all the supports, staff and 0:47:36.840 --> 0:47:39.919 all the personnel um that give you the best chance 0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:41.799 to win. Because that's at the end of the day, 0:47:43.080 --> 0:47:47.040 that's what you're judged on. And that and and I'm 0:47:47.040 --> 0:47:48.879 not saying you could do it's okay to do things 0:47:48.880 --> 0:47:51.000 the wrong way. You have to stick to your culture 0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:53.200 and stick to you know, the convictions of what you've 0:47:53.200 --> 0:47:56.200 said as the standard of of your organization. But it's 0:47:56.239 --> 0:48:00.400 amazing winning here is a lot of bills um and 0:48:00.480 --> 0:48:03.600 so winning, winning is critical and that's what the main 0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:07.279 bullship needs to be. Yes, no secret, Urban Meyer was 0:48:07.360 --> 0:48:10.839 brought here to win football games. 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When I was a Florida Gator coach, 0:51:59.239 --> 0:52:01.880 when you talked about the gatorhead we if you go 0:52:01.920 --> 0:52:04.120 back in memory lane, I actually took it away from 0:52:04.719 --> 0:52:07.200 the player and staff. You don't always blame the players. 0:52:07.200 --> 0:52:10.280 I hear that. You guys know that I don't blame players. 0:52:10.880 --> 0:52:13.920 I blame coaches before players. But you know, just when 0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:16.799 you see that Jaguar album, I want we've done a 0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:20.839 good job in several years. If this this city of Jacksonville, 0:52:21.440 --> 0:52:23.520 when they see that Jaguar amblem, there's a sense of 0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:25.719 pride and let's go, man, let's let's go. That's that's 0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:27.759 I can see a fast team. I see people care 0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:30.760 deeply about that organization. And the two things I always 0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:33.920 talk about are that inspire our part of inspiration or 0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:36.239 love and ownership. I want you to own it. And 0:52:36.280 --> 0:52:37.560 if you don't want to do that, you can't. You 0:52:37.600 --> 0:52:40.520 really can't be here. And I own that, own that emblem. 0:52:42.000 --> 0:52:46.359 I remire definitely the not lack passion. In his introductory 0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:49.520 press conference as the new head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars, 0:52:49.520 --> 0:52:53.040 We're back, Jaguars Happy our Ashlan Sullivan, Jeff Logerman, and 0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:56.480 Tony BASSELLI here with a to do list of this 0:52:56.560 --> 0:52:59.960 busy off season. Senior Bowl, NFL Combine Draft coming up. 0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:02.880 But Tony, I go to you first with this first point, 0:53:03.520 --> 0:53:06.320 what do you do with left tackle? You're most likely 0:53:06.560 --> 0:53:09.040 I'll take that back. You are drafting a quarterback with 0:53:09.120 --> 0:53:11.719 the number one overall picks, So do you re sign 0:53:11.800 --> 0:53:20.960 Cam Robinson? What are we doing here, Tony? I mean, 0:53:21.000 --> 0:53:24.040 if you look at if you look at Cam, uh, 0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:27.560 Cam Robinson, he is he had an up and down year. 0:53:27.680 --> 0:53:29.440 At times he looked very good. It looked like he 0:53:29.680 --> 0:53:32.880 made big improvements, his footwork look better. At other times 0:53:32.880 --> 0:53:36.320 there's some inconsistency and inconsistent big game at big times 0:53:36.360 --> 0:53:39.560 of games that you have a chance to maybe do something. UM. 0:53:39.640 --> 0:53:41.840 And so I think you have to look at what 0:53:41.880 --> 0:53:45.400 the value is. UM. It's it's obviously a premier position. 0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:47.480 The offensive line you have to build, especially with the 0:53:47.480 --> 0:53:50.480 young quarterback and protect that guy. Um. You can't win 0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:52.879 football games without a quarterback, which can't win football games 0:53:52.880 --> 0:53:57.160 without control the line of scrimmage either. So, UM, premiere 0:53:57.280 --> 0:54:00.399 left I mean I'm not gonna say premier. Um. Good 0:54:00.480 --> 0:54:03.520 left tackles are getting seventeen million dollars a year. UM, 0:54:03.560 --> 0:54:06.919 with a lot of million dollars guaranteed, Um, you're gonna 0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:09.800 have some cap issues this year, not the Jaguars, but overall, 0:54:09.800 --> 0:54:12.080 the NFL cap most likely gonna stay flat or go 0:54:12.160 --> 0:54:14.359 down because of COVID. You have a lot of room 0:54:14.480 --> 0:54:16.440 if you're the Jacksville Jaguars, and so I think what 0:54:16.520 --> 0:54:18.799 you do is you have to allocate. First thing you 0:54:18.840 --> 0:54:20.880 do is you say how much were what value do 0:54:20.880 --> 0:54:23.200 we put on camera Robinson? And before we start having 0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:25.160 conversations with him, let's put a value of like what 0:54:25.200 --> 0:54:27.719 are we comfortable with paying for this position based on 0:54:27.719 --> 0:54:29.920 the play that we got last year and what we 0:54:30.120 --> 0:54:33.040 are projecting we think he can be. UM. And then 0:54:33.040 --> 0:54:34.719 you have to go start looking in the out in 0:54:34.760 --> 0:54:37.759 the out in the free agent market, Um, what what 0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:39.439 does it look like? And what is going to happen? 0:54:39.440 --> 0:54:41.640 And what are team is gonna have to do based 0:54:41.640 --> 0:54:45.200 on cap pressure? UH, and what is happening and getting 0:54:45.280 --> 0:54:48.080 understanding what's out in the free agent market. And then 0:54:48.280 --> 0:54:50.359 finally you look at the draft and you know you're 0:54:50.360 --> 0:54:51.920 gonna pick in twenty five. You know you have a 0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:54.080 list of needs. You have to rank those needs based 0:54:54.120 --> 0:54:56.480 on how you're building your team and who you want 0:54:56.480 --> 0:54:58.319 to be and where you find the biggest areas of 0:54:58.360 --> 0:55:01.440 weakness and you start evaluating what can we get at 0:55:02.040 --> 0:55:04.000 what can we get at the top of the second round, 0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:07.600 what will be available, is it starting caliber, is it 0:55:07.680 --> 0:55:10.640 someone we can trust to come in? Um? And then 0:55:10.680 --> 0:55:12.279 you weigh all of that and then you make a 0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:14.680 decision of how aggressive you're gonna be with Cam Robinson. 0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:17.239 So I don't think it's a decision you make in 0:55:17.239 --> 0:55:20.319 a vacuum um as Yes, it's not a buying there, 0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:22.120 yes or no. UM. You got to do a lot 0:55:22.160 --> 0:55:24.239 of research and start pulling together all the data, all 0:55:24.280 --> 0:55:26.440 the facts, and then you make a decision whether you 0:55:26.520 --> 0:55:29.319 keep them or not. And part of that is is 0:55:29.440 --> 0:55:33.239 the unknown. What's the expectation of Cam Robinson and this 0:55:33.400 --> 0:55:36.600 camp financially? I mean, if they all sudden say, hey, 0:55:36.640 --> 0:55:39.640 look we want twenty million a year, what are you 0:55:39.680 --> 0:55:41.880 gonna You're not gonna say, yeah, sure, you know we 0:55:41.920 --> 0:55:46.560 need a love talent. Yeah you say goodbye. I mean, 0:55:46.640 --> 0:55:49.080 so you know, a lot of this is is kind 0:55:49.080 --> 0:55:51.800 of bid. What would you would tag under the TBD 0:55:52.040 --> 0:55:54.640 to be determined, because you've got to find out where 0:55:54.640 --> 0:55:58.319 they are, where you are, what your expectations are, and 0:55:58.360 --> 0:56:00.560 also what your thoughts are with the new gentlemen managed 0:56:00.560 --> 0:56:02.040 from the new coach on that, because I mean the 0:56:02.120 --> 0:56:04.759 roster evaluation. You've got new eyes looking at you now, 0:56:05.520 --> 0:56:07.920 and those new eyes may have a different opinion of 0:56:08.160 --> 0:56:12.400 vastly different opinion than what the eyes were looking at 0:56:12.480 --> 0:56:16.000 that position before. So well, it's not all new eyes, Jeff. 0:56:16.040 --> 0:56:18.040 I mean Trent Balky has been looking at this roster 0:56:18.120 --> 0:56:21.239 for a year now. Um. Now maybe you know he 0:56:21.280 --> 0:56:25.719 now has a greater say than he did before. So 0:56:26.360 --> 0:56:29.480 you have existing eyes with new roles and new level 0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:32.920 of influence. Um, it'll be interesting to see what that 0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:35.560 he does, Trent does with the personnel department, if there's 0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:38.840 changes there to get fresh eyes in the process. The 0:56:38.880 --> 0:56:41.640 reason I bring that up, Tony, is that when you 0:56:42.440 --> 0:56:44.120 when you have a new set of eyes looking at someone. 0:56:44.160 --> 0:56:47.400 The reason I say that, for example, Cam Robinson is 0:56:47.400 --> 0:56:50.640 not Trent Balky's draft pick. Okay, that's right. That's a 0:56:50.680 --> 0:56:54.200 great point. That changes things because now you're looking at 0:56:54.239 --> 0:56:59.319 it without your own personal glasses because you have a 0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:04.040 benefit of retaining or paying a player that you drafted. 0:57:04.800 --> 0:57:06.920 The people that are making the call now they have 0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:10.440 no tie, they have no tie to any past Jaguars 0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:15.600 draft picks. Now it's all about evaluation based on production 0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:20.040 and expected level of production, so that stuff will change, 0:57:20.880 --> 0:57:26.000 I think as we move forward. I agree. Yep, great, 0:57:26.120 --> 0:57:28.760 great points. All right, Tony Boselli, thanks so much for 0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:32.040 joining us. Enjoy your off season wherever you may be. 0:57:32.200 --> 0:57:35.640 Hopefully a vacation, a break coming soon for you. That 0:57:35.760 --> 0:57:38.439 is Jaguars Happy Hour. Stay tuned for the next hour 0:57:38.920 --> 0:57:41.640 coming up right here, five o'clock. Appreciate you joining us 0:57:41.720 --> 0:58:22.640 right here on Jaguars dot com Life. Yea, the focus 0:58:22.920 --> 0:58:26.000 is always on the draft and building your team through 0:58:26.000 --> 0:58:28.280 the draft. I think you use the other avenues to 0:58:28.320 --> 0:58:33.440 supplement your roster, whether that's in big name free agents, UH, 0:58:33.840 --> 0:58:37.120 mid mid tier free agents, or low end free I 0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:40.240 think you're always searching to build your roster, whether it's 0:58:40.280 --> 0:58:42.640 from the top down or the bottom up, or somewhere 0:58:42.680 --> 0:58:45.480 in the middle. UH. Your your goal is to get 0:58:45.520 --> 0:58:48.720 the best fifty three players you possibly can and go 0:58:48.800 --> 0:58:53.400 to work. I'm a resource for coach, That's what the 0:58:53.440 --> 0:58:56.320 way I look at it. I provide a service where 0:58:56.840 --> 0:58:59.200 he can come in, he can bounce things off of me. 0:59:00.160 --> 0:59:02.600 Question because there's gonna be a lot of questions. There's 0:59:02.600 --> 0:59:04.280 gonna be a lot of things that are gonna be 0:59:04.360 --> 0:59:07.440 first time for him. But in the short time I've 0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:09.720 been with him, the one thing I realized he's a 0:59:09.800 --> 0:59:12.400 quick study. It's not gonna take him long to figure 0:59:12.440 --> 0:59:15.240 the rules out and everything that goes with it. And 0:59:15.360 --> 0:59:19.760 he certainly as a coach, you know, he knows his 0:59:19.880 --> 1:00:07.280 way around the practice field very well. This is Jaguars 1:00:07.320 --> 1:00:12.120 Happy Former Jaguar Jeff Loghman and j P. Shadrick provide 1:00:12.120 --> 1:00:15.280 the latest Jaguars news and what's happening around the NFL. 1:00:15.520 --> 1:00:22.520 JA begins right now. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, Ashlan 1:00:22.600 --> 1:00:26.280 Sullivan and for JP shatter game much needed vacation for him, 1:00:26.360 --> 1:00:29.479 wishing him lots of fun and relaxation. Here with Jeff 1:00:29.560 --> 1:00:32.040 Logman on Jaguars Happy Hour. If you have not heard 1:00:32.320 --> 1:00:35.080 big news of the day, the Jaguars have announced Trent 1:00:35.200 --> 1:00:37.840 Bulky is a new general manager of the Jaguars. We're 1:00:37.840 --> 1:00:40.120 going to break that down along with Bucky Brooks coming 1:00:40.160 --> 1:00:44.280 up right here on Jaguars Happy Hour. So, Jeff, initial thoughts, 1:00:44.320 --> 1:00:48.240 initial reaction from Trent Bulky being the new general manager. 1:00:48.280 --> 1:00:52.560 I've been told that he's definitely a leader, definitely strongheaded, 1:00:52.640 --> 1:00:54.680 likes things his way. So I'm curious to see how 1:00:54.680 --> 1:00:57.280 this goes now with urban Meyer, this is his show 1:00:57.280 --> 1:00:59.080 to run with the help of Trent Bulky. Well, I 1:00:59.080 --> 1:01:01.840 think first and foremo so you say strong headed. Who 1:01:01.960 --> 1:01:05.200 if somebody's good uh and believes in what they do, 1:01:05.280 --> 1:01:08.000 they should be strong headed. And I like the fact 1:01:08.080 --> 1:01:11.760 that they got somebody that has experience at being a 1:01:11.800 --> 1:01:14.479 general manager in the National Football League, because I think 1:01:14.560 --> 1:01:17.840 having experience is going to help a coach for the 1:01:17.880 --> 1:01:20.160 first time that he's been in the National Football League, 1:01:20.200 --> 1:01:23.200 like like an Urban Meyer. So and I don't think 1:01:23.240 --> 1:01:28.120 there's any uh freak occurrence that Trent Balky was brought 1:01:28.240 --> 1:01:33.920 into this organization back in the wintertime for just because, 1:01:33.920 --> 1:01:36.560 oh we liked him and he's a great addition. The 1:01:36.640 --> 1:01:40.440 reality is, and I think that that ownership probably had 1:01:40.480 --> 1:01:42.360 a little bit of say, I mean, if if Shot 1:01:42.440 --> 1:01:46.959 Khan had control over the roster last year and then 1:01:47.200 --> 1:01:50.560 obviously had some input and some of the decision making 1:01:50.680 --> 1:01:53.960 this year, why would he not have had some input 1:01:54.120 --> 1:01:58.400 into the hiring of Trent Balky to a position within 1:01:58.520 --> 1:02:02.520 the Jaguar staff. And so obviously there's a level of 1:02:02.520 --> 1:02:04.760 a respect and a level of approval from a very 1:02:04.800 --> 1:02:06.320 get go when he was brought in here, even though 1:02:06.320 --> 1:02:09.400 it wasn't for a general manager role, but with how 1:02:09.520 --> 1:02:12.200 things occurred, I think it it worked out very well 1:02:12.240 --> 1:02:14.439 and I think Urban will appreciate the experience that Trent 1:02:14.560 --> 1:02:18.200 Balky has. Yes, former director of player Personnel. No coincidence 1:02:18.200 --> 1:02:20.880 that he is now here now general manager of the 1:02:20.960 --> 1:02:24.600 Jaguars and is brought into a perfect situation. You could say, 1:02:24.640 --> 1:02:27.520 number one overall pick eleven draft picks. You have five 1:02:27.600 --> 1:02:30.080 draft picks in the first three rounds. I don't want 1:02:30.080 --> 1:02:31.960 to say it it's tough to mess that up because 1:02:32.040 --> 1:02:35.760 I know you can. But pretty ideal situation here for 1:02:35.800 --> 1:02:38.720 Trent Pulls. It's it's ideal if you look at it 1:02:38.760 --> 1:02:42.000 from the standpoint of boy, there's a lot of draft picks, 1:02:42.040 --> 1:02:46.480 but an ideal situation is to be taken over uh, 1:02:46.640 --> 1:02:49.560 the general manager position for an organization that has been 1:02:49.600 --> 1:02:52.480 a perennial winner. I mean that's optimal. I mean this 1:02:52.840 --> 1:02:56.240 is challenging and some people might be scared of it, 1:02:56.280 --> 1:02:58.880 but some of the personnel guys think that this is 1:02:58.920 --> 1:03:02.120 a great opportunity because they believe very strongly in their 1:03:02.120 --> 1:03:06.080 own ability to acquire talent to build an organization, and 1:03:06.160 --> 1:03:09.680 so there are a lot of positives, but the reality 1:03:09.760 --> 1:03:12.280 is there's a lot of building to do, a lot 1:03:12.320 --> 1:03:16.000 of building to do from from every aspect because this 1:03:16.120 --> 1:03:19.560 organization has not been very successful over the years. And 1:03:19.640 --> 1:03:22.080 it's a great challenge and it's one that I think 1:03:22.080 --> 1:03:24.560 that Urban Meyer looked at and saw as a great 1:03:24.600 --> 1:03:29.080 opportunity that uh for for to win number one, but 1:03:29.200 --> 1:03:31.200 number two, that look, if you go to the NFL 1:03:31.280 --> 1:03:34.000 and you win, and you have an opportunity to win, 1:03:34.080 --> 1:03:36.120 and you've got the tools and the resources to do it, 1:03:36.200 --> 1:03:38.720 go for it. It would add to your legacy. I mean, 1:03:39.320 --> 1:03:43.920 Jimmy Johnson. Look at what Jimmy Johnson was one National Championships. 1:03:43.920 --> 1:03:47.840 Just like Urban goes to the Cowboys, gets Troy Aikman, 1:03:48.240 --> 1:03:51.400 already has Michael Irvin there and then has the Herschel 1:03:51.440 --> 1:03:54.360 Walker trade, which gives them a boon of pis. Well, 1:03:54.520 --> 1:03:57.760 the Jaguars already have a boon of pix and they're 1:03:57.800 --> 1:04:02.560 able to build a Super Bowl multiple multi time winner 1:04:02.840 --> 1:04:05.600 in Dallas, and Jimmy Johnson was a big part of that. 1:04:05.640 --> 1:04:07.920 So I think Urban looked at that and said, here's 1:04:07.960 --> 1:04:10.640 my chance to put my stamp in the NFL, and 1:04:10.680 --> 1:04:12.680 I think it's a great opportunity. It's a great opportunity 1:04:12.720 --> 1:04:14.520 for everybody. Yeah, I don't blame him at all. He 1:04:14.560 --> 1:04:16.160 came in here saying I was only going to come 1:04:16.200 --> 1:04:19.160 into a situation that was perfect and one where I 1:04:19.200 --> 1:04:22.120 saw that I could win. There's no secret the opportunities there. 1:04:22.160 --> 1:04:23.840 You just got to go take it. Now. Well, there's 1:04:23.880 --> 1:04:26.360 there's other opportunities around the National Football League that have 1:04:26.440 --> 1:04:30.480 been filled. But some of those opportunities, there are opportunities 1:04:30.520 --> 1:04:32.440 just from the standpoint to look, there's only thirty two 1:04:32.440 --> 1:04:35.440 positions of being a head coach, but you look at 1:04:35.480 --> 1:04:38.680 some of them, and not to name names, but some 1:04:38.840 --> 1:04:41.360 of them are teams that have a commitment to the 1:04:41.440 --> 1:04:43.760 quarterback that you can't get out of, and the quarterback 1:04:43.760 --> 1:04:46.800 play hasn't been great. The cap situations are horrendous. Some 1:04:46.880 --> 1:04:49.480 teams don't have any draft capital, and then have a 1:04:49.480 --> 1:04:52.320 situation where some people on staff are untouchable or seem 1:04:52.360 --> 1:04:56.000 to be untouchable. Um and in a quarterback that's very unhappy. 1:04:56.000 --> 1:04:59.040 I mean, So there's all these well I mean take 1:04:59.080 --> 1:05:03.800 your pick, uh and and ownership issues that that aren't 1:05:03.800 --> 1:05:09.640 particularly strong, and and so this situation strong ownership, willing 1:05:09.680 --> 1:05:13.320 to spend commitment to whatever resources are available, lots of 1:05:13.440 --> 1:05:17.000 draft picks, lots of cap room, and an opportunity to 1:05:17.040 --> 1:05:18.840 take a piece of clay and mold it into your eyes. 1:05:19.240 --> 1:05:23.040 And I think that's what probably and would have if 1:05:23.120 --> 1:05:26.200 I'm urban Meyer, that would have made this job extremely attractive. 1:05:26.720 --> 1:05:28.400 And I'm sure that's one of the big reasons he 1:05:28.480 --> 1:05:31.040 took it, because I mean, he knows that, uh, this 1:05:31.120 --> 1:05:33.480 is a quarterback game, and he said that before in 1:05:33.520 --> 1:05:35.560 this press conference, and he didn't say just it's a 1:05:35.680 --> 1:05:39.320 quarterback league. He said, it's a quarterback game. And here 1:05:39.360 --> 1:05:42.360 you are. You're you're sitting there with the first overall 1:05:42.400 --> 1:05:46.280 picking an opportunity to pick a quarterback that you can 1:05:46.320 --> 1:05:49.440 pick and have a chance to win the future. So 1:05:49.600 --> 1:05:51.440 I was just too much to pass up for him. 1:05:51.560 --> 1:05:53.160 I could not agree more. And now he has the 1:05:53.200 --> 1:05:55.920 task of building a coaching staff. And I was talking 1:05:55.920 --> 1:05:57.880 to someone and they said, yes, it's great that you 1:05:57.960 --> 1:06:00.360 come into this opportunity, and it's a great opera tunity, 1:06:00.440 --> 1:06:03.840 very well publicized. But it's also incredibly hard to be 1:06:03.880 --> 1:06:06.480 a head coach right now because you have every coach 1:06:06.560 --> 1:06:09.000 you've ever been around calling you saying, hey, give me 1:06:09.040 --> 1:06:11.360 an opportunity. You don't really know what you're doing, as 1:06:11.360 --> 1:06:14.440 well as NFL experience. To all these people are calling you, 1:06:14.600 --> 1:06:16.840 who do you put where? There's all these interviews going on. 1:06:17.200 --> 1:06:19.000 It stresses me out just thinking about it. I'm not 1:06:19.040 --> 1:06:21.479 gonna lie because I can only imagine the phone calls 1:06:21.560 --> 1:06:24.280 he's getting right now, what's true, what's not? I can 1:06:24.280 --> 1:06:25.560 tell you this, Ashley, and it's a hell of a 1:06:25.600 --> 1:06:27.919 lot better to have people calling you wanting a job 1:06:28.240 --> 1:06:29.920 than people that are going, I don't want to have 1:06:29.920 --> 1:06:32.200 anything to do with you in the job, because I 1:06:32.560 --> 1:06:35.240 I can tell you there are markets and situations that 1:06:35.240 --> 1:06:38.560 are like that. So having people call you that's great. 1:06:38.600 --> 1:06:40.960 Now you can cherry pick, you know, because if you've 1:06:41.000 --> 1:06:43.760 got six guys calling you for one position and urban 1:06:43.800 --> 1:06:46.880 talked about being the best of the best and making 1:06:47.000 --> 1:06:49.680 having an elite staff, well, okay, if you've got six 1:06:49.720 --> 1:06:52.320 to choose from seven, eight to choose from, to hell 1:06:52.360 --> 1:06:54.920 a lot better than some other market that has nobody 1:06:54.960 --> 1:06:57.440 calling you because they don't want to work for you, 1:06:57.520 --> 1:07:00.560 because they know that the situation you're in, you don't 1:07:00.600 --> 1:07:03.680 have a chance. And so when more people are calling you, 1:07:03.960 --> 1:07:06.360 that's a good thing. And so then you can say, Okay, 1:07:06.560 --> 1:07:09.000 we're gonna take him because he is the best out 1:07:09.000 --> 1:07:10.960 of this group. He is the best I can get. 1:07:11.400 --> 1:07:13.720 And so that's a positive, even though it might think 1:07:13.720 --> 1:07:16.280 you're driving crazy because all these people are calling you. Look, 1:07:16.680 --> 1:07:20.320 urban Meyer has a vast history with coaches and and 1:07:20.120 --> 1:07:22.200 a and a very strong network. I'm sure of people 1:07:22.240 --> 1:07:24.160 that he can make phone calls to, like he's done 1:07:24.160 --> 1:07:26.720 with Jimmy Johnson in the past, to be able to 1:07:26.720 --> 1:07:29.240 get information on some people that he may not know 1:07:29.320 --> 1:07:32.200 about but might be an ace on his staff. And 1:07:32.240 --> 1:07:35.480 I'm sure he's usually utilizing all of those tools. Yes, 1:07:35.560 --> 1:07:37.920 that guy, safe to say, knows a lot of people 1:07:38.080 --> 1:07:41.160 around the league, around college football. He's got three sources 1:07:41.240 --> 1:07:43.160 to make it happen. All right. 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Shad Rick's 1:10:11.960 --> 1:10:14.680 not JP shadow Ashlan Sullivan. Just for this week as 1:10:14.760 --> 1:10:17.479 JP has on vacation, We're back Jaguars Happy Hour with 1:10:17.600 --> 1:10:22.080 Jeff Bloggerman and NFL Draft Network analyst Bucky Brooks joins 1:10:22.200 --> 1:10:25.160 us now all the way from California. Buckey, thank you 1:10:25.280 --> 1:10:27.640 for joining us the big news of the day as 1:10:27.720 --> 1:10:30.520 Trent Fulky is the new general manager for the Jaguars. 1:10:30.720 --> 1:10:33.280 What were your thoughts, um, I thought was a very 1:10:33.320 --> 1:10:36.759 similar to what Jeff had uttered. We talked about experience 1:10:36.800 --> 1:10:40.080 being a huge part of this process. When you have 1:10:40.200 --> 1:10:43.599 a new head coach who was unfamiliar with the National 1:10:43.600 --> 1:10:45.400 Football League, you want to pay them with someone who 1:10:45.400 --> 1:10:48.559 knows the ins and outs of the league. Because Balky 1:10:48.560 --> 1:10:51.600 has done this before with Jim Harbaugh, you would like 1:10:51.640 --> 1:10:52.760 to think that they will be able to get a 1:10:52.800 --> 1:10:56.280 jump start on the process. And when you think about this, 1:10:56.400 --> 1:11:00.240 partnership is really important that you do have the you 1:11:00.320 --> 1:11:02.679 go back and forth, and that you do have different 1:11:02.720 --> 1:11:06.240 opinions and you challenge one another to get the decision right, 1:11:06.320 --> 1:11:09.720 meaning the best decision for the Jaguars. I think this 1:11:09.800 --> 1:11:12.800 is an interesting matchup. I think this was something that 1:11:12.880 --> 1:11:15.200 was certainly in the cars when Balky came on board, 1:11:15.400 --> 1:11:16.920 and now we get a chance to see a play 1:11:16.960 --> 1:11:19.800 out in real time. By the way, Bucky, good to 1:11:19.840 --> 1:11:22.519 have you because you're an upgrade to the show. Did 1:11:22.560 --> 1:11:24.360 you Did you hear say that the sell was an 1:11:24.439 --> 1:11:28.320 upgrade in the last I mean I was expecting you 1:11:28.360 --> 1:11:32.439 to do the same. I mean to upgrade. Man, you 1:11:32.439 --> 1:11:35.800 gotta get Bucky's some upgrade calls there. I'm never gonna 1:11:35.840 --> 1:11:40.320 live this down ever. Uh, Bucky, I had to do 1:11:40.400 --> 1:11:43.280 that because Joe is telling me, I can't believe you 1:11:43.280 --> 1:11:45.400 didn't call a out at the end of the last show. 1:11:45.479 --> 1:11:48.760 So whether I was calling a out, Okay, that's right. 1:11:48.800 --> 1:11:51.679 Hold everybody accountable. Yes, it's fair, it's fair. I'll take 1:11:51.720 --> 1:11:54.000 the blame alright, Bucky. We are getting ready for the 1:11:54.080 --> 1:11:57.320 Senior Bowl next week in Mobile, Alabama. We will be 1:11:57.360 --> 1:11:59.400 there Jaguars dot Com, and I know you'll be covering 1:11:59.439 --> 1:12:01.679 it from your home. Needless to say, the Senior Bowl 1:12:01.760 --> 1:12:05.160 is gonna look a little different this year. Yeah, it 1:12:05.280 --> 1:12:07.000 is going to look a little different. Like there are 1:12:07.000 --> 1:12:10.559 all kinds of protocols put in place to protect the players, uh, 1:12:10.720 --> 1:12:13.639 limiting the amount of representatives from each team that can 1:12:13.680 --> 1:12:17.000 come and check out the event in in live action. 1:12:17.120 --> 1:12:20.160 But I think this is a great opportunity to still 1:12:20.320 --> 1:12:23.759 see these prospects. And when you think about the opt 1:12:23.800 --> 1:12:26.719 outs and the limited games and the different amount of games, 1:12:26.720 --> 1:12:29.040 and some of these players have played the Senior Bowl 1:12:29.040 --> 1:12:31.599 will really help a lot of guys kind of determine 1:12:31.640 --> 1:12:35.479 where players fit on the board. And never forget, without 1:12:35.560 --> 1:12:38.280 the combine, we won't get a chance to see a 1:12:38.280 --> 1:12:41.400 lot of the top prospects on the field together. And 1:12:41.439 --> 1:12:44.799 so when you're doing these comparisons between maybe why receiver 1:12:45.000 --> 1:12:47.760 three and wide receiver four, to be able to potentially 1:12:47.880 --> 1:12:51.000 see them go through drills, work out back to back 1:12:51.280 --> 1:12:53.800 and do that, it will help you separate some of 1:12:53.800 --> 1:12:57.080 the clusters that ultimately exist on the draft boards when 1:12:57.080 --> 1:13:01.040 it comes closer to draft time. Yeah, I think you've 1:13:01.080 --> 1:13:03.200 got a great point there, Bucky, as far as I mean, 1:13:03.200 --> 1:13:06.000 you have some opt outs that didn't even play in 1:13:06.000 --> 1:13:08.760 a college season that may participate in an All Star Game. 1:13:08.800 --> 1:13:11.320 There's some programs like Florida State that didn't play a 1:13:11.360 --> 1:13:14.719 lot of football games this year. So and most importantly, 1:13:14.760 --> 1:13:16.759 when you have an All Star game, it's about seeing 1:13:17.280 --> 1:13:20.800 NFL quality players against other NFL quality players. And I know, 1:13:20.920 --> 1:13:23.559 for me personally, when when I played in the Blue 1:13:23.600 --> 1:13:26.240 Gray Game, and I don't even think that's even existence anymore, 1:13:26.680 --> 1:13:30.519 and then also the East West Shrine Game. It raised 1:13:30.560 --> 1:13:34.840 my UH profile because I was able to play some 1:13:34.920 --> 1:13:37.519 different positions, but also to go against what we're viewed 1:13:37.560 --> 1:13:41.280 as other NFL caliber players. And that's a huge, huge, 1:13:41.360 --> 1:13:44.920 important thing. I think UH for the All Star Games 1:13:44.920 --> 1:13:47.519 is because now you can start comparing apples to apples 1:13:47.520 --> 1:13:50.559 when you're evaluating guys. And a perfect example of that, 1:13:50.600 --> 1:13:54.680 Buck I remember watching Brandon Linder and his All Star performance, 1:13:54.920 --> 1:13:57.240 and I was watching him against other guys that were 1:13:57.240 --> 1:14:01.240 considered extremely high draft ability why and he was working 1:14:01.280 --> 1:14:04.800 on them and so that obviously raised his level of 1:14:05.160 --> 1:14:08.760 stature as well. So all Star games crazy important. And 1:14:09.080 --> 1:14:12.240 the combine what's the status on that, Bucky, what's is 1:14:12.520 --> 1:14:15.479 not even gonna exist? What's the deal? So a couple 1:14:15.479 --> 1:14:17.200 of different things, because I think you hit on a 1:14:17.240 --> 1:14:20.080 couple of points that are really important. Um knowing one 1:14:20.240 --> 1:14:24.080 and nointry embarking and knowing this scouting staff. All Star 1:14:24.160 --> 1:14:28.240 games will have significance now you await them accordingly. But 1:14:28.280 --> 1:14:30.599 because you haven't seen some of these players play against 1:14:30.600 --> 1:14:33.680 elite competition, the All Star Game could give you a 1:14:33.720 --> 1:14:36.720 little preview in terms of how they may play at 1:14:36.720 --> 1:14:39.360 the next level, particularly for those guys who may come 1:14:39.400 --> 1:14:43.320 from smaller schools or smaller programs. It's a huge evaluation 1:14:43.360 --> 1:14:45.479 tool as it relates to the combine. The way the 1:14:45.520 --> 1:14:47.920 combine is going to exist now is really it's a 1:14:48.000 --> 1:14:52.360 virtual combine. Teams will do uh the zoom interviews and 1:14:52.400 --> 1:14:56.439 conduct that part of it virtually. Eventually they will figure 1:14:56.479 --> 1:14:59.160 out of time to have everyone come in to do 1:14:59.360 --> 1:15:02.479 the medical stuff, but pro days will now be the 1:15:02.520 --> 1:15:05.040 big thing. Scouts will have to get on the road 1:15:05.160 --> 1:15:07.280 or have to figure out a way to live stream 1:15:07.320 --> 1:15:10.479 to see these prospects work out because logs, as you 1:15:10.520 --> 1:15:13.759 talk about, some of these guys haven't played since twenty nineteen. 1:15:14.200 --> 1:15:17.000 You have no idea what their sizes, you don't know 1:15:17.040 --> 1:15:19.639 what their way to, You don't even know if they 1:15:19.680 --> 1:15:21.920 move around the same way that they moved around the 1:15:22.000 --> 1:15:24.280 last time you saw them on the field. And so 1:15:24.479 --> 1:15:27.680 being able to try and get some kind of evaluation 1:15:27.960 --> 1:15:32.080 on the athleticism, the movement skills and those things, it's 1:15:32.080 --> 1:15:34.759 a challenge this year and I think the best teams, 1:15:34.760 --> 1:15:37.400 the teams that handle it the best will be those 1:15:37.439 --> 1:15:40.719 who really rely on the tape, and so tape study 1:15:41.000 --> 1:15:44.240 will be paramount It's always big in the evaluation process, 1:15:44.520 --> 1:15:47.120 but I think this year more than ever, you have 1:15:47.240 --> 1:15:49.559 to really trust what your eyes tell you based off 1:15:49.560 --> 1:15:53.519 the tape. I think the players that played this year, 1:15:53.800 --> 1:15:56.360 and it's not I'm not saying it was their fault 1:15:56.360 --> 1:15:59.599 whether they did or didn't, but the players that played, 1:15:59.680 --> 1:16:02.360 because their programs played and they chose to play, I 1:16:02.400 --> 1:16:04.960 think have a distinct advantage over the players that didn't. 1:16:05.439 --> 1:16:08.720 And and that's unfortunate because some players had serious concerned 1:16:08.800 --> 1:16:12.640 because of the pandemic. But that's just the reality of 1:16:12.800 --> 1:16:15.479 if you're a personnel man, you're gonna go with what 1:16:15.520 --> 1:16:18.000 you can trust, and what you trust is what you see. 1:16:18.439 --> 1:16:21.439 And some guys that you may be projected Bucky as 1:16:21.479 --> 1:16:24.559 a first round pick but he decided not to play, well, 1:16:24.560 --> 1:16:26.599 you know what, he may not be a first round 1:16:26.640 --> 1:16:28.720 pick this year, just because you know, if you're a 1:16:28.760 --> 1:16:31.240 general manager, gotta trust it. But this is the one 1:16:31.320 --> 1:16:34.160 year that I think that it goes a little bit 1:16:34.200 --> 1:16:38.240 old school as far as you have to have scouts 1:16:38.280 --> 1:16:40.160 that you can trust. You have to have people in 1:16:40.200 --> 1:16:42.880 your department that you trust. And this is a challenge 1:16:42.880 --> 1:16:45.080 for Trent Balky because he's working with the stat that 1:16:45.120 --> 1:16:47.679 he didn't choose for the most part, So he has 1:16:47.720 --> 1:16:49.479 to be able to have a level of trust with 1:16:49.600 --> 1:16:52.160 some people and then bring more people in that he 1:16:52.200 --> 1:16:55.360 can trust, because this is a year that scouting makes 1:16:55.400 --> 1:16:58.720 their money because they're gonna have to end up forecasting 1:16:58.760 --> 1:17:00.559 a lot of this stuff, and some of it's gonna 1:17:00.600 --> 1:17:03.519 be done on faith. And you better make darn sure 1:17:03.960 --> 1:17:06.200 that you believe in the decisions that you make and 1:17:06.280 --> 1:17:08.400 the grades that you give these players, because a lot 1:17:08.439 --> 1:17:12.200 of it, again is on faith, absolutely, Jeff. That is 1:17:12.240 --> 1:17:14.080 a huge point. Is one of those things that will 1:17:14.120 --> 1:17:18.160 be overlooked. So it's different being the suggestion guy to 1:17:18.280 --> 1:17:21.000 being the decision maker. And so now Balky moves want 1:17:21.040 --> 1:17:23.560 seed over. He's the guy that has to make decisions. 1:17:23.760 --> 1:17:26.120 And so when you're assessing the room, you have to 1:17:26.120 --> 1:17:28.719 be able to scout the scouts and know which ones 1:17:29.120 --> 1:17:31.720 really see it through your eye. Doesn't mean that their 1:17:31.720 --> 1:17:34.200 opinions have to be the same, but you respect how 1:17:34.240 --> 1:17:37.439 they evaluate the tape, you respect what they put down 1:17:37.439 --> 1:17:39.559 in the reports. And when you have what I call 1:17:39.720 --> 1:17:44.000 a mixed staff, meaning some of the predecessor of guys 1:17:44.040 --> 1:17:46.680 and some of your guys, it does make it very, 1:17:46.800 --> 1:17:50.599 very difficult to figure out whose opinion do I really 1:17:50.720 --> 1:17:53.760 value when it comes time to make these hard decisions. 1:17:53.920 --> 1:17:55.920 I think one of the things that you can um 1:17:56.200 --> 1:17:58.760 work around that is I wouldn't be surprised to see 1:17:58.800 --> 1:18:02.160 maybe a consultant man or someone that is hired in 1:18:02.200 --> 1:18:04.760 the middle of the process who can be his right 1:18:04.800 --> 1:18:07.760 hand man, who can be a sounding board when you 1:18:07.840 --> 1:18:10.320 have some of these difficult decisions when it comes to 1:18:10.400 --> 1:18:14.840 two similar graded players on the draft board, right, absolutely 1:18:14.880 --> 1:18:16.960 need a guy that you can trust. 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I'm Jaguars Happy 1:20:59.240 --> 1:21:02.320 Hour Ashley fell even here with Jeff Logoman and Bucky 1:21:02.400 --> 1:21:04.680 Brooks as we get ready for the Senior Bowl just 1:21:04.960 --> 1:21:07.880 next week in Mobile, Alabama, and Bucky you will be 1:21:07.920 --> 1:21:10.760 there with NFL Network virtually of course. And I have 1:21:10.800 --> 1:21:12.240 a feeling we're not gonna be able to get away 1:21:12.240 --> 1:21:14.600 from the talk of Trevor Lawrence and the number one 1:21:14.680 --> 1:21:18.000 overall pick. Obviously he won't be there. So from a 1:21:18.080 --> 1:21:20.760 Jaguars perspective, what are you gonna be looking at? Immobile? 1:21:21.800 --> 1:21:25.080 So here's the thing. You have a really talented collection 1:21:25.120 --> 1:21:27.719 of players and prospects, and you actually have some guys 1:21:27.720 --> 1:21:30.280 who are opt outs who are elected to play in 1:21:30.320 --> 1:21:33.080 this All Star Game because they understand the significance. I 1:21:33.120 --> 1:21:34.559 think the one thing that you want to do if 1:21:34.560 --> 1:21:37.240 you're a Jaguars fan, um, you want to pay attention 1:21:37.240 --> 1:21:40.120 to the guys that really pop at first glance during 1:21:40.160 --> 1:21:44.320 the Tuesday, Wednesday Thursday portion of practices. That's really where 1:21:44.520 --> 1:21:47.160 the money is made in terms of how guys compete, 1:21:47.360 --> 1:21:50.040 what guys look like. Do they progress and get better 1:21:50.520 --> 1:21:52.479 each and every day? So do they look like a 1:21:52.520 --> 1:21:55.040 better player on Wednesday than they do it on Tuesday? 1:21:55.040 --> 1:21:57.280 Do they feel comfortable on Thursday as opposed to the 1:21:57.280 --> 1:21:59.479 way they looked on Tuesday and Wednesday. I think that's 1:21:59.479 --> 1:22:03.320 really really important. It's unfortunate that the Jaguars don't have 1:22:03.360 --> 1:22:06.519 an opportunity to coach in this game because what it 1:22:06.600 --> 1:22:09.040 does do. It gives you an opportunity to get around players. 1:22:09.240 --> 1:22:12.559 And it's one thing to speculate how a player will perform, 1:22:12.800 --> 1:22:15.920 it's another thing to actually coach him, get around him, 1:22:16.280 --> 1:22:19.080 know him, Watch the study habits, watch how it takes 1:22:19.120 --> 1:22:22.840 things from the boardroom to the field, and so some 1:22:22.960 --> 1:22:24.360 of that stuff you would have to kind of call 1:22:24.439 --> 1:22:26.439 in your context or whatever. But it's a lot of talent, 1:22:26.520 --> 1:22:28.960 it's a lot of guys to watch and will continue 1:22:29.000 --> 1:22:31.479 to change because, as we know in All Star games, 1:22:31.520 --> 1:22:33.800 some guys have a tendency to play the first part 1:22:33.840 --> 1:22:35.479 of the week and then they go by the wayside 1:22:35.479 --> 1:22:36.960 and you end up seeing other guys when it comes 1:22:37.000 --> 1:22:39.880 to game game. Yeah, and uh, one of the one 1:22:39.920 --> 1:22:43.080 of the critical parts of All Star Games is practice evaluations. 1:22:43.160 --> 1:22:45.400 So it'll be interesting to see how teams go about 1:22:45.400 --> 1:22:48.760 it because of some of the restrictions that the All 1:22:48.760 --> 1:22:51.000 Star Games are gonna have in place. And I'm sure 1:22:51.080 --> 1:22:55.200 that they're gonna disseminate all the film. I'm I'm a 1:22:55.200 --> 1:22:57.200 big believer in that one of the one of the 1:22:57.280 --> 1:22:59.439 areas that you really get a good look at and 1:22:59.520 --> 1:23:03.360 a a or thorough understanding of guys is the offensive 1:23:03.400 --> 1:23:05.519 lineman in the All Star Games. And the reason I 1:23:05.600 --> 1:23:08.880 say that is a lot of times certain teams have 1:23:09.040 --> 1:23:11.800 so much talent at the skill position, it has a 1:23:11.800 --> 1:23:16.320 tendency to overpower the offensive line position. And you can 1:23:16.360 --> 1:23:19.200 really get a good evaluation on a guy that because 1:23:19.240 --> 1:23:21.400 he's kind of on an island and so to speak, 1:23:21.439 --> 1:23:23.160 at an All Star Game, because he doesn't have a 1:23:23.200 --> 1:23:25.720 comfort level working with the guy to the left and 1:23:25.760 --> 1:23:27.840 the guy to the right, so they basically have to 1:23:27.880 --> 1:23:30.280 survive on their own. So you get a really good 1:23:30.280 --> 1:23:34.320 evaluation of their athleticism, their power and everything else. And 1:23:34.360 --> 1:23:36.920 so that's that's one aspect I mean, for me, if 1:23:36.920 --> 1:23:39.240 I'm looking at the All Star Games, I'm really focusing 1:23:39.360 --> 1:23:42.160 on the offensive line. That's I think you get really 1:23:42.200 --> 1:23:45.599 good information their skill position players. They always rise and 1:23:45.640 --> 1:23:48.680 they always stand out and they will continue to stand out. 1:23:48.680 --> 1:23:51.080 But the quarterback play typically in an All Star Game 1:23:51.439 --> 1:23:53.200 is not great enough to make a lot of the 1:23:53.240 --> 1:23:56.719 skill position players stand out. But that offensive line position, 1:23:56.760 --> 1:23:59.080 that's where I think you can find out really worth 1:23:59.120 --> 1:24:02.200 some guys really need to be. You know, it's funny, Jeff, 1:24:02.200 --> 1:24:04.479 because the trenches are everything, and so whether we talk 1:24:04.520 --> 1:24:07.559 about the offensive line or the defensive line. Those battles 1:24:07.600 --> 1:24:10.400 really matter, and so and practice is all about looking 1:24:10.439 --> 1:24:13.080 at nine on seven and so for the viewer of 1:24:13.080 --> 1:24:15.679 the listener, that is where we take the skill guys 1:24:15.680 --> 1:24:17.800 out and we basically just have the core of the 1:24:17.840 --> 1:24:20.800 offensive line going against the core of the defensive line 1:24:20.960 --> 1:24:23.320 and the linebackers. We have the quarterback and the running backs, 1:24:23.320 --> 1:24:25.920 but it's a run period, is a physical period, and 1:24:25.920 --> 1:24:27.840 you really get to see who can kind of stand 1:24:27.880 --> 1:24:29.680 the test of time in terms of being able to 1:24:29.720 --> 1:24:33.120 control the point of attack. Also the one on one 1:24:33.479 --> 1:24:36.479 situations that you see pass rush situations, being able to 1:24:36.520 --> 1:24:40.600 see as Jeff you alluded to those offensive linemen on islands, 1:24:40.640 --> 1:24:42.920 because unlike in the game where you can lean on 1:24:43.000 --> 1:24:45.880 your neighbors and get somebody help and stuff, if you're 1:24:45.880 --> 1:24:48.880 playing inside a guard or even outside where the tied 1:24:48.960 --> 1:24:50.720 end and the running back and chip, you get a 1:24:50.800 --> 1:24:53.160 chance to really do this all by yourself. And so 1:24:53.479 --> 1:24:57.040 seeing how those guys perform in those events that's critical, 1:24:57.040 --> 1:24:59.719 and I think it's very very critical to the overall evaluation. Yeah, 1:24:59.720 --> 1:25:01.760 it's it's one of these I think it's one of 1:25:01.840 --> 1:25:05.680 the hardest positions to evaluate. And so the more information 1:25:05.720 --> 1:25:07.760 that you can get, the better, and then the All 1:25:07.760 --> 1:25:10.880 Star Games provide that. And I'll give you a story 1:25:10.960 --> 1:25:13.680 Ashland back uh, and I'll make it quick. When I 1:25:13.720 --> 1:25:17.519 was a player here in Jacksonville and Buck, I'll never 1:25:17.560 --> 1:25:19.840 forget he was, I think, like a fourth round pick 1:25:19.920 --> 1:25:23.120 offensive lineman. And I'll never forget the first day that 1:25:23.160 --> 1:25:26.080 we went in pads, and I remember the first day 1:25:26.120 --> 1:25:27.800 in pats and I remember I watched him for the 1:25:27.800 --> 1:25:30.040 first round. I this guy has no chance of playing 1:25:30.040 --> 1:25:33.000 in the National He's got no chance. I mean he 1:25:33.000 --> 1:25:35.240 couldn't get into a stance without his ankles and his 1:25:35.320 --> 1:25:38.639 knees going in these crazy directions. And it was one practice, 1:25:38.640 --> 1:25:40.559 You're going, he's got no chance. And I'm sitting there 1:25:40.600 --> 1:25:44.560 thinking to myself, what the heck were they watching? What 1:25:44.920 --> 1:25:47.880 do they evaluate on this guy? Because I mean there 1:25:47.880 --> 1:25:50.519 are offensive lineman that play on good teams that if 1:25:50.520 --> 1:25:52.599 you've got a great running back and a great quarterback, 1:25:52.640 --> 1:25:55.840 you can make an offensive lineman look pretty good. And 1:25:55.920 --> 1:25:58.600 so I'll just I'll never forget that. I was just 1:25:58.640 --> 1:26:00.559 like man one day and I kind of had this 1:26:00.600 --> 1:26:02.400 guy pick that he wasn't even gonna make the roster 1:26:02.560 --> 1:26:04.040 but he made the roster just because he was a 1:26:04.120 --> 1:26:07.920 draft pack. But then soon after that he was bye bye. 1:26:08.000 --> 1:26:11.280 You know I couldn't play. You're passionate about this. I 1:26:11.280 --> 1:26:15.360 hope the more information you can get at the offensive line, 1:26:15.439 --> 1:26:17.040 the better yere off you are. I can tell you 1:26:17.080 --> 1:26:20.519 that well ask to talk about what what lives is saying. 1:26:20.880 --> 1:26:22.720 A lot of times you're seeing these guys come from 1:26:22.800 --> 1:26:26.120 these offenses that are so spread heavy, so pass happy, 1:26:26.120 --> 1:26:29.120 that you really don't know if they can translate to 1:26:29.240 --> 1:26:31.680 the NFL game, because the NFL game is about the 1:26:31.760 --> 1:26:34.200 running game as much as we talk about the passing game. 1:26:34.240 --> 1:26:36.120 And can you get into three point stance? Can you 1:26:36.160 --> 1:26:38.880 move people off the ball and pass protection? Can you 1:26:38.920 --> 1:26:41.759 deal with the superheroes that play on the defensive line, 1:26:41.960 --> 1:26:44.280 because these guys look they can leap tall buildings in 1:26:44.320 --> 1:26:47.200 a single bound, and if you don't have the foot quickness, 1:26:47.200 --> 1:26:49.639 if you don't have the ability to anchor, it makes 1:26:49.680 --> 1:26:52.280 it very difficult for you to play in this league 1:26:52.280 --> 1:26:54.680 for a long time. And sometimes you can't assess that 1:26:54.720 --> 1:26:56.960 on tape. Sometimes you have to see them in practice, 1:26:57.000 --> 1:27:00.120 go against other good players to really determine how that 1:27:00.200 --> 1:27:03.640 they are as prospect. Very fair, very fair. I have 1:27:03.800 --> 1:27:06.280 a predicament. I guess I can say it for you too. 1:27:06.320 --> 1:27:08.639 And I hope my dad's watching because he always says, 1:27:08.640 --> 1:27:11.479 as you look at Joe Burrow and Cincinnati and they say, oh, 1:27:11.479 --> 1:27:13.559 you know they didn't address the offensive line. That's why 1:27:13.680 --> 1:27:17.120 Joe Burrow got hurt. Obviously that was going to happen. Now, 1:27:17.439 --> 1:27:21.519 obviously that's not true. Injuries happen in the NFL. So Bucky, 1:27:21.520 --> 1:27:23.439 I'll go to you. How much a priority is this 1:27:23.520 --> 1:27:26.400 offensive line is? They must need got to relok At 1:27:26.439 --> 1:27:29.200 everything we read at the combine last year and everyone 1:27:29.280 --> 1:27:31.880 said fan wise, oh, you have to completely redo the 1:27:31.920 --> 1:27:35.639 offensive line. Coaching staff said, no, it's not that bad. Guys, 1:27:35.760 --> 1:27:38.840 just wait and see so Jaguars taking a quarterback number 1:27:38.840 --> 1:27:41.639 one overall, how much are you looking at this offensive line? 1:27:42.439 --> 1:27:43.880 I think you have to consider because I think a 1:27:43.920 --> 1:27:46.240 lot is to be determinent about Cam Robinson, and so 1:27:46.320 --> 1:27:48.519 depending on if you bring him back as your left tackle, 1:27:48.920 --> 1:27:51.040 you may or may not have a big void. But 1:27:51.120 --> 1:27:53.200 I think with the offensive line, I don't think you 1:27:53.280 --> 1:27:55.760 ever can have enough of them. If you look at 1:27:55.760 --> 1:27:59.680 the best teams in this division, their offensive line is solidified. 1:28:00.000 --> 1:28:02.200 The Indianapolist Coast offensive line is one of the best 1:28:02.200 --> 1:28:04.559 in football. You look at the way the Tennessee Titans 1:28:04.600 --> 1:28:07.720 dominate in the trenches is because they've invested in the 1:28:07.760 --> 1:28:10.920 offensive line. I will say this, I believe your offensive 1:28:10.960 --> 1:28:13.960 line and your defensive line are the lifeblood of your team. 1:28:14.000 --> 1:28:15.840 And if you don't invest in those guys, if you 1:28:15.880 --> 1:28:19.080 don't have a level offensive and defensive lines, it is 1:28:19.160 --> 1:28:21.760 hard to win consistently in the league. I think it's 1:28:21.800 --> 1:28:24.720 something that always needs to be addressed. And luckily in 1:28:24.760 --> 1:28:27.160 this class there are a number of offensive tackles that 1:28:27.240 --> 1:28:29.240 could be there in the middle to the bottom of 1:28:29.240 --> 1:28:32.000 the first round. It would be great because you can 1:28:32.040 --> 1:28:35.439 improve an offensive line by getting better players number one, 1:28:35.479 --> 1:28:37.880 and also creating competition, and then you got to improve 1:28:37.960 --> 1:28:40.640 with what you got. And and I really believe this. 1:28:40.920 --> 1:28:43.920 I think you create competition on this Jaguars offensive line 1:28:43.960 --> 1:28:47.479 to make those guys push themselves. But then also you 1:28:47.520 --> 1:28:50.240 have to expect more out of these guys. Jo Wanna Tellor, 1:28:50.280 --> 1:28:52.080 I think is a perfect example. Bucky I mean, I 1:28:52.640 --> 1:28:55.400 like his athleticism. I think he can be an elite 1:28:55.479 --> 1:28:58.080 right tackle in this league. And last year was not 1:28:58.160 --> 1:29:01.840 the standard that he needs to meet. In my in you, Oh, Jeff, 1:29:01.880 --> 1:29:03.760 I think that's everything. 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Definitely a favorite here in Jackson. So how 1:32:29.920 --> 1:32:33.120 do you think this plays out? Yeah, I think Joe 1:32:33.160 --> 1:32:36.200 Cullen certainly has the inside track in terms of being 1:32:36.200 --> 1:32:38.600 the defensive coordinator, and I think he comes with a 1:32:38.600 --> 1:32:41.640 lot of experience. Obviously haven't been down there before, but 1:32:41.960 --> 1:32:44.280 his time with Baltimore. When you look at the Baltimore 1:32:44.360 --> 1:32:48.320 Ravens and that defense very very very multiple. They can 1:32:48.360 --> 1:32:51.400 attack your protections in a few different ways and they're 1:32:51.520 --> 1:32:54.639 very very aggressive. The thing that I would I would 1:32:54.680 --> 1:32:56.840 say is if he comes in, if he is the 1:32:56.880 --> 1:32:59.599 defensive coordinator, you just need to make sure that your 1:32:59.640 --> 1:33:03.519 second dairy coaches understand how to fit the pieces around it, 1:33:03.520 --> 1:33:07.200 because sometimes guys that live upfront have a tougher time 1:33:07.280 --> 1:33:09.479 matching up in the back end when it comes to coverage. 1:33:09.640 --> 1:33:12.920 So it puts a greater premium on making sure that 1:33:13.120 --> 1:33:17.360 your dB coaches are great teachers and also great schemers, 1:33:17.360 --> 1:33:20.320 so they can make the magic on the board really 1:33:20.400 --> 1:33:23.639 work in real life when you get to the field. Yeah, 1:33:23.640 --> 1:33:26.400 I mean, typically you see a guy that goes from 1:33:26.439 --> 1:33:30.400 a positional coach to a coordinator position on defense having 1:33:30.439 --> 1:33:34.000 had experience either as the linebackers coach or as a 1:33:34.040 --> 1:33:38.280 secondary coach. Just from a coverage standpoint, I think, well, 1:33:38.280 --> 1:33:41.320 obviously what Bucky's talking about right there, and so it 1:33:41.439 --> 1:33:43.680 is odd that you see a defensive line coach go 1:33:43.800 --> 1:33:47.960 up to the coordinator position. But but I will say this, Bucky, 1:33:48.080 --> 1:33:50.439 you know, look at having been a former defensive lineman. Look, 1:33:50.479 --> 1:33:53.000 we're not all dummies, Okay, we we do understand the 1:33:53.000 --> 1:33:58.320 defensive concepts. Okay, just because we play defensive line doesn't 1:33:58.320 --> 1:34:00.679 mean that we don't didn't understand cover just as well. 1:34:02.439 --> 1:34:04.759 You know, I think, I think, I think it's interesting, 1:34:04.800 --> 1:34:07.320 But I will say this, typically what happens when you 1:34:07.360 --> 1:34:10.080 do that, because we've seen guys have success. Dan Quinn 1:34:10.080 --> 1:34:13.719 has been a successful defensive coordinator. Typically, what happens, though, 1:34:13.960 --> 1:34:17.400 is that experience having dealt with the big guys in 1:34:17.439 --> 1:34:20.240 the line of scrimmage, you're going to be dominant against 1:34:20.280 --> 1:34:22.400 the run. Typically, that's always going to be the point 1:34:22.400 --> 1:34:24.040 of emphasis. We've got to stop to run to make 1:34:24.080 --> 1:34:27.080 teams one dimensional. And in today's game, even though we 1:34:27.160 --> 1:34:30.320 talked about it being a passing league in the playoffs 1:34:30.320 --> 1:34:32.280 and when it gets to the last part of the season, 1:34:32.560 --> 1:34:34.559 the running game matters and you have to be able 1:34:34.600 --> 1:34:36.840 to figure out a way to stop that, to force 1:34:36.880 --> 1:34:39.960 people to throw when you really want to throw. And so, look, 1:34:39.960 --> 1:34:41.760 I think he has an opportunity to do a really 1:34:41.760 --> 1:34:44.479 good job that experienced servicing will not only in Jackson, 1:34:44.640 --> 1:34:46.840 but also in Baltimore. So I look forward to it. 1:34:47.000 --> 1:34:49.679 I know there's some other guys that were being banded around, 1:34:49.840 --> 1:34:51.680 but it seems like Colin is going to be the 1:34:51.680 --> 1:34:53.639 guy at defense. Yeah, I mean that's what I mean. 1:34:53.640 --> 1:34:55.960 Look at look actually looking at my phone just a 1:34:55.960 --> 1:34:57.760 few minutes ago. I mean, all the reports are is 1:34:57.760 --> 1:35:01.439 that Joe Cullen is the defensive coordinator and Bucky Uh. 1:35:01.479 --> 1:35:05.160 I know Joe, Joe very well, good guy and excited 1:35:05.160 --> 1:35:07.960 for him. And what's amazing to me Ashland is and 1:35:08.000 --> 1:35:12.400 Bucky you know this, the number of defensive coordinators that 1:35:12.439 --> 1:35:17.040 have come out of Baltimore's positional group. I mean, it's 1:35:17.080 --> 1:35:20.960 it's it's immense, and uh, it's almost as if, Look, 1:35:20.960 --> 1:35:23.080 if you want to get a defensive coordinator position, go 1:35:23.160 --> 1:35:27.920 to Baltimore. Okay, be uh just a low level guy 1:35:27.960 --> 1:35:30.519 on defense, advanced to a position, and then you're gonna 1:35:30.520 --> 1:35:33.320 be a defensive coordinator one day. And then for many 1:35:33.400 --> 1:35:37.439 years it was automatic defensive coordinator for Baltimore. Ravens, guess what, 1:35:37.880 --> 1:35:42.080 you're a head coach in the waiting coming out of Baltimore. Yeah, 1:35:42.120 --> 1:35:44.519 I mean, look, it's been there for a long time, Jeff, 1:35:44.560 --> 1:35:46.280 going back to when we played together in the mid nineties, 1:35:46.280 --> 1:35:49.040 Baltimore has always been known for their defense and the 1:35:49.080 --> 1:35:51.360 way they've consistently kind of built that team in that 1:35:51.479 --> 1:35:56.040 program around the toughness, the physicality, and aggressiveness of the defense. 1:35:56.320 --> 1:36:00.520 And I just hope like that can pop up in Axonville, 1:36:00.560 --> 1:36:03.879 because you would like to see kind of a defensive oriented, 1:36:03.960 --> 1:36:06.760 defensive centric team because at the end of the day, 1:36:06.800 --> 1:36:09.280 the teams that separate themselves are the ones that can 1:36:09.280 --> 1:36:11.920 get stops. All of the teams that continue to play 1:36:11.920 --> 1:36:14.320 in the final four are teams that can stop people. 1:36:14.320 --> 1:36:16.040 When you need to and I think it has to 1:36:16.080 --> 1:36:18.840 be a part of the program going forward. I couldnot 1:36:18.840 --> 1:36:20.519 agree more. And Buckey, I want your opinion on this 1:36:20.560 --> 1:36:22.759 as well. We talked a couple of segments ago about 1:36:22.840 --> 1:36:26.479 the offensive coordinator position, Scotland Ahan Anthony Lynn. I have 1:36:26.560 --> 1:36:29.880 question marks around both that there's also positives about both, 1:36:29.960 --> 1:36:31.840 and we said, you know, chaina coming in, who do 1:36:31.840 --> 1:36:34.479 you call offensive coordinator? Can can they be a tie? 1:36:34.560 --> 1:36:36.680 Can you have both of them? Because they're both pre qualified. 1:36:37.840 --> 1:36:39.920 You know, I think there's a way that you can 1:36:39.920 --> 1:36:41.840 do it. Like it really just depends and a lot 1:36:41.880 --> 1:36:44.280 of it depends on the ego. I'll talk about Anthony 1:36:44.439 --> 1:36:47.639 land first and Anthony Lynn. What you're hoping to get 1:36:48.200 --> 1:36:52.120 is what is the soup dejour, meaning that Shanahan run 1:36:52.160 --> 1:36:56.679 game that system because that system has made um average players, 1:36:56.760 --> 1:37:00.760 good good players into superstars. And so if you can 1:37:00.800 --> 1:37:03.519 get that offensive system where you got the offensive line 1:37:03.600 --> 1:37:05.680 working on tracks, you have running backs that are down 1:37:05.760 --> 1:37:08.960 here one cut runners who James Robinson certainly fits the 1:37:09.000 --> 1:37:12.080 build and that you now can run. You can run 1:37:12.080 --> 1:37:15.120 the ball and it takes so much pressure off your quarterback. 1:37:15.560 --> 1:37:17.599 In a perfect world, if you can take Anthony Lynn 1:37:17.640 --> 1:37:19.479 with that run game and then match him up with 1:37:19.520 --> 1:37:21.880 Scott Linahan and what he's been able to do in 1:37:21.920 --> 1:37:24.400 the passing game. Yes, it would be great. I will 1:37:24.439 --> 1:37:26.920 say this about Scott Linahan. A lot of people will 1:37:27.000 --> 1:37:28.559 kind of go back and forth in him and hall 1:37:28.640 --> 1:37:30.519 On Lenahan. But if you look at the work that 1:37:30.560 --> 1:37:34.320 he did in Dallas with Dak Prescott, young quarterback got 1:37:34.400 --> 1:37:36.519 him up and going. Now, they had pieces in place, 1:37:36.560 --> 1:37:39.320 meaning the offensive line was solidified, they had a running 1:37:39.320 --> 1:37:42.680 back in Ezekiel Elliott, and as dat got better, he 1:37:42.720 --> 1:37:45.519 grew from being what I would call a game manager 1:37:45.840 --> 1:37:49.280 to being more of a playmaker. Even though we can 1:37:49.280 --> 1:37:53.360 celebrate and go crazy over what Trevor Lawrence potentially could 1:37:53.360 --> 1:37:55.799 be if he is to pick, you have to remember 1:37:56.040 --> 1:37:58.880 it's a young quarterback. You don't want to task him 1:37:58.920 --> 1:38:01.439 with too much of that. You want to be able 1:38:01.439 --> 1:38:04.439 to have a balanced offense that allows the quarterback to 1:38:04.600 --> 1:38:07.559 grow into being a playmaker. You don't want to ask 1:38:07.600 --> 1:38:09.920 him to be a playmaker in your one. You gotta 1:38:09.960 --> 1:38:12.120 take the pressure off of them. And that's and it's 1:38:12.120 --> 1:38:15.559 funny that you talk about Dallas and and how Scott 1:38:15.600 --> 1:38:19.400 Lanahan was able to help out Dak Prescott when well, 1:38:19.840 --> 1:38:21.680 you brought up a good point and that well, that 1:38:21.760 --> 1:38:25.320 offensive line and Ezeko Elliott was what made Scott Lanahan 1:38:25.400 --> 1:38:27.519 good and what made Dak Prescott have the time to 1:38:27.560 --> 1:38:30.000 be able to develop. I mean again, I mean even 1:38:30.040 --> 1:38:32.160 though we talk about coaches being important, and they are 1:38:32.320 --> 1:38:35.679 very important, and you can question offensive coordinators every day 1:38:35.680 --> 1:38:39.200 and three times on Sunday, but when you start to 1:38:39.240 --> 1:38:44.040 have really good players, it becomes harder to question offensive coordinators. Absolutely, 1:38:44.080 --> 1:38:46.120 it's a it's a player's game, and that is the 1:38:46.200 --> 1:38:48.599 number one thing and we have to keep that in mind. 1:38:48.960 --> 1:38:51.679 As much as we may talk about the position coaches 1:38:51.680 --> 1:38:55.000 and the coordinators. The number one job first of the 1:38:55.360 --> 1:38:58.879 gentlemanager in Urban you gotta bring in a level players 1:38:59.240 --> 1:39:02.519 because the better the players are, the better it is 1:39:02.720 --> 1:39:05.080 that you look as a coach. And so if we 1:39:05.160 --> 1:39:08.240 can bring in a number of five star players that 1:39:08.280 --> 1:39:11.240 can come in and have impact, because you need impact 1:39:11.240 --> 1:39:14.880 players to really change the course of the franchise, that 1:39:15.000 --> 1:39:18.639 helps all coaches look better. Better players, better team, better team, 1:39:18.680 --> 1:39:21.160 we get more wins. Everyone's excited. Jeff and I are smiling. 1:39:21.479 --> 1:39:24.840 We're not embroved in this fifteen game loses streak and 1:39:24.920 --> 1:39:26.479 trying to find a clicker and trying to find the 1:39:26.520 --> 1:39:29.200 good stuff. Everybody's better when we start winning games and 1:39:29.240 --> 1:39:32.040 the stars were better players. I can tell you this, Ashland, 1:39:32.080 --> 1:39:34.200 I can tell you I can be the best defensive 1:39:34.240 --> 1:39:39.519 line coach and football. Give me Aaron Donald. Give me 1:39:39.560 --> 1:39:41.680 Aaron Donald, and I can coach him up. But I 1:39:41.720 --> 1:39:43.720 can do it. I'll be I'll be one of the 1:39:43.760 --> 1:39:49.200 best defensive line coaches in the league. Give me Aaron Donald. Okay, alright. 1:39:49.600 --> 1:39:52.320 Coaching search still going on. Hopefully to have that solidified 1:39:52.600 --> 1:39:55.000 next week. Thank you Bucky Brooks for joining us on 1:39:55.080 --> 1:39:58.040 Jaguars Happy Hour. 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And a topic that's 1:42:46.880 --> 1:42:49.720 been floating around that I'm not gonna lie, Jeff, I 1:42:49.720 --> 1:42:52.400 giggle out a little now. It's shocking. I'm not a 1:42:52.400 --> 1:42:54.639 head coach I'm not a scout. I know that's shocking 1:42:54.640 --> 1:42:57.800 to you. But the debates on if they will take 1:42:57.960 --> 1:43:00.479 Trevor Lawrence number one, Coach Meyer said, you know, we're 1:43:00.520 --> 1:43:03.320 gonna look at all the quarterbacks. There's a lot of options, 1:43:04.760 --> 1:43:10.800 are there? No, No, there, there's no options. Uh. The 1:43:10.880 --> 1:43:13.519 option is just to take Trevor Lawrence or do not 1:43:13.600 --> 1:43:17.439 take Trevor Lawrence and make a huge mistake. I've had 1:43:17.439 --> 1:43:19.840 the chance to watch the film of Trevor Lawrence. I've 1:43:19.880 --> 1:43:21.840 watched a little bit of the quarterback of b y 1:43:21.960 --> 1:43:24.000 U and watch a little bit of the quarterback of 1:43:24.080 --> 1:43:26.519 Ohio State. And for me, it's hands down, it's an 1:43:26.520 --> 1:43:30.360 easy decision. Trevor Lawrence is your guy. And uh, I 1:43:30.360 --> 1:43:32.280 don't want to say that he is on par with 1:43:32.360 --> 1:43:34.679 some of the armed talent that Patrick Mahomes showed when 1:43:35.040 --> 1:43:39.120 when he was in college, but the consistency with Trevor 1:43:39.160 --> 1:43:43.120 Lawrence is amazing, and for me, that's, uh, that makes 1:43:43.120 --> 1:43:45.639 it a very easy decision. He's got everything, he's got 1:43:45.640 --> 1:43:48.880 all the measurables, he's got the intangibles, he's been a 1:43:48.880 --> 1:43:52.559 winner everywhere he's been and uh, there's nothing not to 1:43:52.640 --> 1:43:57.519 like with Trevor Lawrence. I'm not saying he can't miss, 1:43:57.520 --> 1:44:00.960 because you can always miss, and because you you don't 1:44:01.040 --> 1:44:03.599 know exactly what the mental makeup is. But I mean 1:44:04.200 --> 1:44:08.240 history gives you the greatest indication, and his history is impeccable. Yes, 1:44:08.520 --> 1:44:11.120 spot on, clear favorites. And now we're curious to see 1:44:11.520 --> 1:44:14.040 if they do draft Trevor Lawrence, what do they do 1:44:14.120 --> 1:44:16.040 with the weapons around him? And one of the to 1:44:16.200 --> 1:44:18.800 do list questions was do you give d J. Chark 1:44:18.960 --> 1:44:21.120 a contract? Do you resign Keelan Cole? What do you 1:44:21.120 --> 1:44:24.960 do with these weapons given to Trevor Lawrence? While these 1:44:24.960 --> 1:44:27.160 weapons don't have a contract. So I mean you've got 1:44:27.160 --> 1:44:29.200 to You've got to figure a way out to uh 1:44:29.360 --> 1:44:31.640 to try to bring as many back as possible. 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The Jaguars ticket department says 1:49:38.200 --> 1:49:42.280 fifty percent of their ticket deposits came just twenty four 1:49:42.320 --> 1:49:45.680 hours after the head coach was announced. From today to 1:49:45.880 --> 1:49:49.599 last year, eight times what the Jaguars ticket sales were 1:49:50.160 --> 1:49:52.080 going way up. And I don't blame them. People are 1:49:52.080 --> 1:49:56.080 excited and they should be well rightly so. And um, 1:49:56.280 --> 1:49:58.360 I think it's gonna be exciting. And it's not just 1:49:58.520 --> 1:50:03.080 about urb and Meyer. It's also about the prospect of 1:50:03.120 --> 1:50:08.960 Trevor Lawrence. And so it makes that that the combination 1:50:09.439 --> 1:50:12.439 of of all the change, obviously it gives you hope. 1:50:13.080 --> 1:50:15.080 And that's what I think the fan base was really 1:50:15.080 --> 1:50:17.800 looking for was hope. And now you got it. You 1:50:17.880 --> 1:50:20.200 got a proven coach, one of the top three of 1:50:20.200 --> 1:50:23.040 all time win percentage in that coached in college football. 1:50:23.920 --> 1:50:27.080 And what is probably most impressive about his track record 1:50:27.120 --> 1:50:28.880 is not what he did at Florida or what he 1:50:28.920 --> 1:50:31.400 did in Ohio State. It's what he did that Utah, 1:50:31.520 --> 1:50:35.240 it's what he did at Bowling Green and taking those 1:50:35.280 --> 1:50:39.000 programs and turning around, turning them around instantly in one year. 1:50:40.200 --> 1:50:44.080 And also the prospect of having one of the winningest 1:50:44.320 --> 1:50:49.040 college quarterbacks in history here and uh and I can 1:50:49.040 --> 1:50:53.120 honestly tell you this excellent. I've never ever been a 1:50:53.160 --> 1:50:56.360 guy to root for this team to lose for draft position. 1:50:57.200 --> 1:50:59.960 I found myself rooting for this team to lose this year. 1:51:00.160 --> 1:51:03.599 You're one of those guys. You weren't the only one. 1:51:03.920 --> 1:51:08.080 Well look, you missed out and opportunities in the past 1:51:08.200 --> 1:51:11.599 to drift quarterback and those are very well documented from 1:51:11.600 --> 1:51:14.479 the Shawn Watson and Patrick Mahomes to to take your pick. 1:51:15.800 --> 1:51:18.840 And here you are with an opportunity, and if you 1:51:18.960 --> 1:51:23.680 win one game and the Jets ended up you know, 1:51:23.880 --> 1:51:29.120 losing a game, everything could be different. And uh so, 1:51:30.280 --> 1:51:32.360 I gotta say that it was. It was a very 1:51:32.439 --> 1:51:35.320 good week the last week of the season because the 1:51:35.400 --> 1:51:39.040 draft position was already decided, and the weeks prior to that, 1:51:39.160 --> 1:51:41.519 I was I might have found myself rooting for certain 1:51:41.520 --> 1:51:44.120 things to happen that I shouldn't have been doing. You know, 1:51:44.280 --> 1:51:47.600 you weren't the only one. I well, I look, I 1:51:47.640 --> 1:51:50.280 won't look at here. Here's the reality. I always root 1:51:50.360 --> 1:51:52.280 for this team to win because of the relationships that 1:51:52.360 --> 1:51:54.519 I have with coaches and the players, and you want 1:51:54.560 --> 1:51:58.479 them to have success. But somewhere deep down inside of me, 1:51:58.680 --> 1:52:01.719 there was that you know that that that little devil 1:52:01.760 --> 1:52:04.840 guy that's had on the shoulder, the guy okay, and 1:52:04.880 --> 1:52:06.680 then you had the other guy, that little devils on 1:52:06.720 --> 1:52:10.000 the shoulder going Jacks loose Jack Louise traft pick traff 1:52:10.000 --> 1:52:13.519 pick traffick. So it's fair, it's fair. And I will 1:52:13.920 --> 1:52:17.360 say we saw that stat about the ticket office. If 1:52:17.400 --> 1:52:19.960 the Jaguars draft Trevor Lawrence number one, like we all 1:52:20.000 --> 1:52:21.400 expect them to do. I just want to be a 1:52:21.400 --> 1:52:24.080 fly on the wall and that ticket office. I hope 1:52:24.120 --> 1:52:26.679 they're fully stabbed right when that card goes in, because 1:52:27.000 --> 1:52:28.639 if that was what it was for just the head 1:52:28.640 --> 1:52:31.160 coach to be announced, can you imagine ticket sales the 1:52:31.240 --> 1:52:35.320 city when the quarterback is locked in. Oh, it's it's 1:52:35.640 --> 1:52:37.479 certainly going to be a big boost. And you know 1:52:37.520 --> 1:52:41.000 there were some that uh that here here's the crazy 1:52:41.040 --> 1:52:43.559 thing I got as you probably do too, because you're 1:52:43.640 --> 1:52:47.439 Florida girl, right, Okay, you probably have some friends that 1:52:47.479 --> 1:52:50.920 are not fans of urban Meyer. Yeah, but appreciate the 1:52:50.960 --> 1:52:55.000 fact that the guy wins. They get it. I mean, look, 1:52:55.080 --> 1:52:56.760 I mean, look, you may not like him because he 1:52:56.840 --> 1:52:59.720 left your program, and and maybe some of the circumstances 1:52:59.720 --> 1:53:02.240 were where he left, but the fact remains he won, 1:53:03.320 --> 1:53:07.320 and so if he didn't leave, they'd still love him. 1:53:07.439 --> 1:53:11.559 And so now with him having an opportunity to take 1:53:11.640 --> 1:53:15.479 your pro football team and win, people can forget about 1:53:15.520 --> 1:53:17.759 some of maybe the things that maybe made them upset 1:53:17.760 --> 1:53:20.240 from before. And there's people at Ohio State that probably 1:53:20.240 --> 1:53:22.840 a little upset with how some of the things went 1:53:22.840 --> 1:53:25.439 down with urban Meyer leaving, and it looked I don't 1:53:25.479 --> 1:53:27.519 don't care about liking my coach as long as he 1:53:27.560 --> 1:53:30.960 can win. And people understand that urban Meyer can help 1:53:31.000 --> 1:53:32.720 this football team win. Yeah. You don't have to go 1:53:32.760 --> 1:53:34.000 to dinner with him, you don't have to go to 1:53:34.040 --> 1:53:36.000 lunch with him. He's here to win football games. And 1:53:36.040 --> 1:53:38.040 I had someone come up to me and they said, well, 1:53:38.200 --> 1:53:40.400 you know, he's only one when he's been given the resources. 1:53:40.439 --> 1:53:42.479 When I mean, look at Ohio State. Look at Florida. 1:53:42.520 --> 1:53:45.640 He has the best recruits in the nation, the best facilities. 1:53:45.680 --> 1:53:47.800 But then you look at something like Bowling Green. You 1:53:47.840 --> 1:53:50.160 mean to tell me that wasn't a good coach when 1:53:50.680 --> 1:53:53.760 when when it was put out there that he may 1:53:53.760 --> 1:53:55.559 in fact be highed. 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Ashland Sullivan, Jeff Logman 1:57:44.160 --> 1:57:48.400 here on Thursday, getting ready for a busy Sunday championship games. 1:57:48.480 --> 1:57:51.240 You have Sunday three o'clock Tampa Bay, Green Bay, Sunday 1:57:51.240 --> 1:57:55.080 six thirty Buffalo in Kansas City. I was telling Jeff 1:57:55.200 --> 1:57:58.880 in the break that this is Buffaloes year calling in 1:57:59.400 --> 1:58:01.640 So what do you what are? What's your story with Buffalo? What? 1:58:01.840 --> 1:58:04.080 What do you got invested in Buffalo. I just think 1:58:05.040 --> 1:58:07.360 was a weird year, So why not make it any 1:58:07.440 --> 1:58:09.880 weirder and have the Buffalo Bills win the Super Bowl 1:58:09.920 --> 1:58:12.080 in front of all these other teams that are historic 1:58:12.160 --> 1:58:14.680 and all this. They're really good. I look, I I 1:58:14.800 --> 1:58:17.560 think they're They're general manager and coach have done an 1:58:17.600 --> 1:58:23.120 amazing job. Their young quarterback has made a great progression 1:58:23.920 --> 1:58:27.480 and his accuracy has gone where people didn't think that 1:58:27.560 --> 1:58:31.440 it could go. And he is certainly uh an elite 1:58:31.480 --> 1:58:34.120 athlete as well as having arm talent. It's gonna be 1:58:34.120 --> 1:58:36.560 a great battle two young quarterbacks. I just don't think 1:58:36.600 --> 1:58:39.720 that if Patrick Mahomes plays and he doesn't have any 1:58:39.720 --> 1:58:42.000 ill effects from the concussion, I just don't see Kansas 1:58:42.000 --> 1:58:44.400 City losing. But it should be a great football game 1:58:45.280 --> 1:58:49.320 and I can't wait to see Aaron Rodgerson Tom Brady 1:58:50.680 --> 1:58:54.400 Championship game for Tom Brady? Are you kidding me? And 1:58:54.480 --> 1:58:57.000 just to imagine that if Tampa Bay does win that game, 1:58:57.080 --> 1:58:59.640 they play the first year that Tom Brady is the 1:58:59.720 --> 1:59:03.760 quarter back in the Super Bowl in their city. You 1:59:03.880 --> 1:59:05.720 can't write it up better than Matt Are you taking? 1:59:05.960 --> 1:59:08.960 You're taking? Buffalo? Obviously can take it. I think Buffalo 1:59:09.000 --> 1:59:10.800 and Green Bay, green Bay. And if you don't beat 1:59:10.800 --> 1:59:12.960 Aaron Rodgers, you just don't. But you also can say 1:59:13.000 --> 1:59:15.440 the same for Tom Brady. I'm gonna do the exact 1:59:15.480 --> 1:59:19.800 officer I'm taking. I'm taking Kansas City, Patrick Mahomes and 1:59:20.120 --> 1:59:22.520 uh and I'm taking Tom Brady in the bucks. Wow. 1:59:22.960 --> 1:59:25.560 Now that is a game to watch. Okay, Well, then 1:59:25.560 --> 1:59:28.760 who wins with that? Kansa City? Kan City wins it? 1:59:28.840 --> 1:59:31.920 All they did that? You know that's the cancer. You're good. 1:59:32.280 --> 1:59:33.920 We never thought there could be a Tom Brady, but 1:59:33.960 --> 1:59:35.960 we might be watching the next one right now. Yes 1:59:36.080 --> 1:59:39.120 we will, and hopefully the Jaguars get there next Tom Brady. 1:59:39.240 --> 1:59:42.280 The Jaguars number one overall pick. Talk lots about that 1:59:42.280 --> 1:59:45.800 in this program, and that is Jaguars Happy Hour. Ashton Sullivan, 1:59:46.120 --> 1:59:48.160 Jeff Long been a busy off season coming up to 1:59:48.280 --> 1:59:51.760 states to right here, Jaguars Happy Hour and Jaguars dot Com. 1:59:51.840 --> 1:59:54.000 Have a great weekend, have a great Thursday night.