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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, January one. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by the C s I Companies

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Speaker 1: and now founding member of the John Cena Fan Club,

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Speaker 1: Ashland Sullivan. I was so scared when he was going

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Speaker 1: to say the entire day for that intro, is this

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Speaker 1: how JP does this all day long? We're going to say,

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Speaker 1: Joe always has something to kind of get. JPS got

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Speaker 1: a little bit, but I was kind of kind of wondering, there, Joe,

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Speaker 1: we had a we had a rehearsal before he actually

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Speaker 1: did the real world wrong with some practice, right, nothing

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Speaker 1: wrong with the Who're just saying he's always trying to

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Speaker 1: get I want to say embarrassed. But he's trying to

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Speaker 1: have a little bit of fun with JP, and so

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Speaker 1: we gotta have a little fun back. Yeah, it's only fair.

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Speaker 1: It's only fair. You're going to regret this, Okay. The

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Speaker 1: man has the power to turn my my golf, Yes

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Speaker 1: he does, don't test him. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Are

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Speaker 1: this fine program? And yes this is not JP Shadwick,

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Speaker 1: Ashland Sullivan and for JP, O well deserved week of

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Speaker 1: vacation for him. If you have not heard, the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: have announced Trent Bulky as the new general manager of

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars today. So we have all of that and

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Speaker 1: more coming up on this fine program, as well as

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Speaker 1: John Osier starting off the show with us, and John,

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Speaker 1: I will go to you first. You were listening intensely

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Speaker 1: through that press conference, So what was your reaction, Trent

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Speaker 1: Bulky urban Meyer check it off the list? General manager,

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Speaker 1: head coach done. First of all, Hello Jeff, Hello Ashland.

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Speaker 1: Jeff havn't been studio with you in a long time.

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Speaker 1: Good to see you again. Um, kind of see you're right, well,

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Speaker 1: kind of right virtually. Um. I think anybody who watched

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Speaker 1: the presser, it was an unsurprising main theme and the

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Speaker 1: word of the day was alignment, and over and over again.

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Speaker 1: Even when they were asked other things, they all came

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Speaker 1: back to this is alignment. When urban Meyer was asked

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Speaker 1: about the importance of Trent having NFL experience, he gave

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Speaker 1: a very quick sentence and then he said, but none

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Speaker 1: of this works if we're not aligned. So it's clear

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Speaker 1: that Shod Conn's Shod Khan's message that this is a

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Speaker 1: partnership between GM and head coach and they're working together. Transparency,

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Speaker 1: all those buzzwords. You know, I think it's fool as

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Speaker 1: to think that urban Meyer is not going to have

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Speaker 1: major say in personnel. That's always how this works. But

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Speaker 1: it is a partnership in a relationship that is going

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Speaker 1: to be symbiotic. Whatever buzzword you used, that's what I

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Speaker 1: took from it most of all, Jeff, I think I'll

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Speaker 1: show that even though urban Meyer is expected to have

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Speaker 1: a pretty big voice and the personnel, you also have

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Speaker 1: to know what you don't know. And and I think

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Speaker 1: that that will happen in this case because Trent Balky

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Speaker 1: obviously has a vast amount of experience in personnel, whereas

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Speaker 1: urban Meyer has typically done it from a recruiting standpoint.

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Speaker 1: And so if you're urban Meyer, you've got to have

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Speaker 1: people number one that you can trust the number two

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Speaker 1: think it's great. I mean, you've got to be aligned,

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Speaker 1: and I mean, I hate to say this, but I

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Speaker 1: don't think that there was alignment here in the past.

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Speaker 1: I really don't. And and uh, for whatever reason, sometimes

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Speaker 1: general manager might think that things should go a certain way,

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Speaker 1: and and coaches are expecting things to go another way.

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Speaker 1: And if if you're not on the same page, you've

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Speaker 1: hear that word alignment and then everybody trying to work

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Speaker 1: towards a common goal, because if if you have a

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Speaker 1: general manager and a coach that are on the same page,

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Speaker 1: you've got no chance. And and Trent Balky alluded to that,

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Speaker 1: uh and and I don't think he was very specifically

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Speaker 1: But he said, out of the thirty two teams in

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Speaker 1: have a chance because they're they're not aligned and uh

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Speaker 1: and I don't think he used that exact word, but

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Speaker 1: Trent Fulky was asked about that both of them reporting

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Speaker 1: But in the short time I've been with him, the

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Speaker 1: everything that goes with it. And he's certainly as a coach,

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Speaker 1: you know, he knows his way around the practice field

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Speaker 1: very well. Urban Meyer did mention that he has spent

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Speaker 1: tiresly amounts of time with Trump Paulki these past few days.

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Speaker 1: They have seen a lot of each other and John,

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Speaker 1: I'll go to you. It's kind of it's different. This

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Speaker 1: year has been different. But that was the first time

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Speaker 1: I've seen Trent Bulky heard from Trump Bulky. He's been

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Speaker 1: our introductory press conference, even though he's been here a while. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's certainly an unusual situation. You know, people covering the

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Speaker 1: met face to face, which has never happened. Jeff can

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Speaker 1: speak to that. He was a player in the league

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Speaker 1: for a long time. I've you know. The takeaway, the

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Speaker 1: big one is the Trent Bawkey and urban Meyer are

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Speaker 1: a line. But I think it's also important to realize

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Speaker 1: Trent Balky's reputation is as a guy who stands firm

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Speaker 1: He was general manager of a team that went to

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Speaker 1: players he has insight that urban Meyer needs. This is

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Speaker 1: not a one way street. Although Trent said I'm here

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Speaker 1: His voice matters very much in this triangle that they

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Speaker 1: talk about shod Khan, Trent Balky, and Urban Meyer. Trent

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Speaker 1: Balky is a third of that for a reason, he's

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Speaker 1: that situation, and I think it's too. It's also incredibly

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Speaker 1: obviously the landscape has changed a little bit since he

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Speaker 1: adapt and adjust. But but to have a first time

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Speaker 1: I think it's critical and I think it's it's a

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Speaker 1: smart move by all. And I don't know exactly ultimately

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Speaker 1: And I think that the experience are surrounding a first

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Speaker 1: stop there. It's probably gonna be a little bit more

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Speaker 1: interesting to see who Trent Balky surrounds himself with because

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Speaker 1: change is gonna come. Change is coming within the personnel

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Speaker 1: the staff as as as the off season rolls along. Oh, yes,

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Speaker 1: change is near And one of the biggest things that

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Speaker 1: will pay attention to this offseason, it's obviously the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: Eleven draft picks, you have five in the first three rounds. So,

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Speaker 1: Trent Bulky, what is the outlook of the NFL draft

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Speaker 1: this year? We're always going to look at the value

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Speaker 1: of a player. Uh, and value matters that it matters

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Speaker 1: in in where in their value is to where you

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Speaker 1: pay them in free agency? Uh. Need Uh, We're We're

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Speaker 1: a value based team. Need not a needs based Well,

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Speaker 1: you always have needs regardless of when you set the

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Speaker 1: fifty three. So the best player available is usually the

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Speaker 1: and the team. Yeah, alright, Jeff, I know you love

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Speaker 1: the best player available. That's something good to hear. Well.

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Speaker 1: I think I've always been the best available player type guy.

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Speaker 1: start to adjust your board based on on well, we

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Speaker 1: And I'm making terms up because I don't want to

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Speaker 1: you wonder how this franchise could be different if they

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Speaker 1: but there are certain positions that are premium positions that

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Speaker 1: which makes them more valuable from the very good go.

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Speaker 1: I've always said, Jeff, there's not a lot of gms

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Speaker 1: walking around the NFL during training camp and looking at

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Speaker 1: their roster and saying, man, we have too many good players,

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Speaker 1: you know. And the point being there is if you

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Speaker 1: sit there in the draft said what we need here,

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Speaker 1: up and draft an elite guy at linebacker behind another

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Speaker 1: elite guy linebacker, you know what You've got, Jeff, two

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Speaker 1: elite players. So I'm all best available. I think it

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Speaker 1: always works. There are times you have to do certain

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Speaker 1: things in the draft where if guys are close, then yeah,

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Speaker 1: you go with a certain position. But uh, your news flash.

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Speaker 1: Right now, this team doesn't have too many elite players.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be easy for them to go best available,

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Speaker 1: best available very early. And I'm looking forward to seeing

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Speaker 1: how they do it because I think a big theme

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Speaker 1: but he knows exactly what he wants, competitiveness, speed. I

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Speaker 1: think it's to be really easy for Balky and the

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Speaker 1: and what it's gonna take for him to win. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just only add one thing is that because John

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Speaker 1: and they didn't have success. Well, look, you gotta have

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Speaker 1: good players too. Okay, coaching matters. You've got to have

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Speaker 1: good coaches, then you also have to have good players.

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Speaker 1: When you put the two of them together, you've got

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Speaker 1: a great chance. And that's where Trent Balky is so

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Speaker 1: very important to the success of this this football organization

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Speaker 1: and Urban Meyer gotta have. You gotta have everybody working

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Speaker 1: together and be able to have the right tools to

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Speaker 1: be able to win. If you don't have the right tools,

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna win. You have the greatest coach in

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Speaker 1: the world. And if you don't have the players in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, you're you're gonna be okay, but you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna be the contender. You just it's just the reality.

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Speaker 1: You gotta have got a players, got to have tools

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Speaker 1: in the toolbox. I don't know who said that, but

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Speaker 1: I've heard it before. All right, let's look at defense.

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Speaker 1: Joe Colin is reported to be the defensive coordinator for

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Were hearing his name throwing out all over

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Speaker 1: there along with these names that you're seeing right now.

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Speaker 1: So John, tell me why Joe Colin is the clear

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Speaker 1: favorite for this and why he would fit the job

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Speaker 1: as defensive coordinator. Reportedly, of course, Oh, I know Jeff

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Speaker 1: has a lot of thoughts too, And Jeff knew uh

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Speaker 1: Joe for three years, probably him a little bit better

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Speaker 1: than I did. I knew Joe for two years when

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Speaker 1: I first got back to Jacksonville. Why would he be

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Speaker 1: a coordinator? Because he knows football, He's an incredible motivator.

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Speaker 1: He's incredibly well respected within the NFL. There is a

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Speaker 1: great relationship between he and Urban Meyer that goes back

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Speaker 1: a long way. You know, I'm biased, and I think

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Speaker 1: everybody is who knows Joe Aston. You haven't met him,

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Speaker 1: but Jeff can attest to this. A fantastic, first rate

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Speaker 1: human being. When you get a guy like this in

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Speaker 1: your building, you're better for it, no matter what role

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Speaker 1: it is. As defensive coordinator. Has never been that before,

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Speaker 1: but he has been one of the best line coaches

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Speaker 1: he's been in Baltimore. He is ready for this job.

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Speaker 1: If he gets that, I have no doubt that he's

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Speaker 1: a major impact, and you got to make sure that

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Speaker 1: we I gotta correct you, John. He doesn't coach defensive line.

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Speaker 1: He coaches Rushman. Okay, he's changed the term. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Joe Collin changed the term. He likes to call him Rushman.

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Speaker 1: And uh and and John is dead on the money.

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Speaker 1: Joe Colin is a is a eight number one, top

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Speaker 1: notch guy. He's never been a defensive coordinator before. But

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Speaker 1: you also, if you look at that list of names,

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Speaker 1: there's some names on there that have been defensive coordinators before.

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Speaker 1: Anthony Weaver, Charlie Strong obviously has an immense amount of experience.

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Speaker 1: And so once again, it's title sometimes don't mean everything.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, somebody ultimately has to have to say.

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Speaker 1: But when you get a bunch of bright minds together,

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Speaker 1: then you have a great chance. And and Joe Colin

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Speaker 1: is a is a super sharp guy, quality guy. Love

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Speaker 1: him and uh. In fact, when I heard that there

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Speaker 1: was a rumor or there was a whisper in the

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Speaker 1: news media that he may be interviewing, I'll just texting

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Speaker 1: him right away. I said, Joe, come on back to Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: Good dude, gave him outfit tips all of that. What

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Speaker 1: am I hearing? John? I guess you can attest this

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Speaker 1: to you. I've heard of practice might get a little

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Speaker 1: loud if he joins in he's pretty loud. Yeah, Joe's

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Speaker 1: pretty loud. And we'll probably get the dirt pitt back.

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Speaker 1: Remember the dirt pit, Jeff, where you probably more about

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Speaker 1: than I did. But he's got certain drills, and he's

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Speaker 1: got a drill or the offensive linemen have to get

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Speaker 1: down there could be at a certain level. Jeff can

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Speaker 1: attest to it more than me. But yeah, I read

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Speaker 1: something about Joe a couple of days ago, and I

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Speaker 1: didn't think of it, and I wish I had. When

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Speaker 1: you watch Joe Colin coach, he's one of the few

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Speaker 1: coaches where other position groups stop and watch him coach

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Speaker 1: because he's so good at it and so dynamic. Again,

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Speaker 1: Jeff and you and I are in the same page

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Speaker 1: fingers crossed that he's the guy. Yeah, uh, I think

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Speaker 1: it'd be a good higher and in Ashlyon, I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you there's been a few guys National Football League and

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Speaker 1: and being a former defensive line and I always watched

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Speaker 1: the defensive line coaches very very closely, and because I

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Speaker 1: want to hear what they're saying, I want to hear

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Speaker 1: their style, I want to hear what they're teaching. Because

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Speaker 1: I think I'm pretty educated in that department. And uh,

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Speaker 1: and Joe is one of those guys that I never

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Speaker 1: second guest everything he said. I'm like, he's dead on

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Speaker 1: the money. And Joe was always one of those guys

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Speaker 1: too that would would ask a lot of questions. He

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Speaker 1: never felt like he knew everything, and he would ask

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Speaker 1: questions of me. He would ask questions of any defensive

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Speaker 1: line that he came across. He would talk to Tony

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Speaker 1: Basselli and say, Hey, Tony, what do you think about this?

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Speaker 1: What was so hard about blocking that? You know? So

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Speaker 1: he's a guy that I think it was constantly learning.

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Speaker 1: And uh. And I know that a lot of people

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Speaker 1: want to bring up something that might have happened in

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Speaker 1: his past. But I can tell you if we all

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Speaker 1: had something brought up from our past, and I can

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Speaker 1: be the first one to admit it, okay that uh,

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Speaker 1: that everybody might have an embarrassing moment in the past,

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Speaker 1: and I would have one. Johnny, you would probab you

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Speaker 1: have one. And I can tell you firsthand that that

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Speaker 1: ponytail wasn't very cool, even though you might have thought

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Speaker 1: it was. But but but I mean, look the past

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Speaker 1: of the past, and Joe Collins are good man, I

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Speaker 1: love to hear it. Yes, John, thank you for your time,

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Speaker 1: and we'll leave you to the debating the ponytail versus

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Speaker 1: Like the beer Johnny's got going out, Johnny, I like that. Hey,

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Speaker 1: there was no debate, Jeff that Ponytail was Boss. It

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Speaker 1: I've seen pictures. I don't want to bring him back up.

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Speaker 1: I'm just scared that. John Oshan just said Boss the radio,

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Speaker 1: that that's like old. I mean, that's like shows your age, right, Boss.

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Speaker 1: It was more of a bun, like a bun Joe,

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Speaker 1: even worse, even like att Yeah, what't it was like

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Speaker 1: and speaking of upgrades, Tony Baselli joins us, Now, I

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Speaker 1: a lot of information. I mean not a lot of activity. Um.

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Speaker 1: The one thing is for sure. I mean it is

639
00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: a splash higher um, and it's big news and it's

640
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: a in They shot. Khan went after urban Meyer. He

641
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: got him. Um. He wanted to get a guy who's

642
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 1: led been a bona fide qualified top end leader. Now

643
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: it's in the college game, not the pro game, but

644
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: still he's one everywhere he's been and Shot is basically saying, listen,

645
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a guy here who can lead this

646
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: organization and bring it back, and I'm gonna bring a

647
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: guy who's done it before. It might not be in

648
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: this exact arena, meaning the Pro game, but it's hard

649
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: to argue that. The guys one everywhere. So um, it's

650
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: exciting and there's a lot of exciting things going on

651
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: right now. Um, and it's gonna be an really interesting offseason.

652
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: We will not be short on news this offseason, that's

653
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: one thing for sure. Yes, and that is good news

654
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: for this Thursday show. And Jeff, I've heard some people say, oh,

655
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: he's coming right in here and he has a plan

656
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: of upgrading the facilities, and it was almost a negative

657
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: connotation towards that, But I don't feel that way. He's

658
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 1: coming from Ohio State, Florida, these big time college football programs,

659
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: Well that's the arms race in college football. If he

660
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 1: wants a facility, give the man a facility. Well, look

661
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: it's it's in college football. The arms race is real.

662
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: And that's facilities Alabama, the Clemsons, I mean, all these

663
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 1: big time programs. It it is a war of facilities

664
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 1: because it's a huge recruiting tool and in the National

665
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: Football League you're not necessarily per se recruiting, but in

666
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: some sense you are in free agency, and so you

667
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: want to have as many as many tools in your toolbag,

668
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: so to speak, as far as positive to tract players.

669
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: But UM, Tony and I would agree that, Look, you

670
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: can always improve the facilities and you always want to

671
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: give the players the best of the best. Does that

672
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: necessarily mean a new facility? Maybe? Does that mean a

673
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: an upgrade to the current facilities? Is that you have

674
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: on an expansion to that? I mean, it could mean

675
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: a lot of things, But I think Urban's whole point

676
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: is give the players the best, to expect the best

677
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: in return, right, And that's air Tony. You heard him

678
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: say in the stock coming back a hot tub. I

679
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: don't think he's saying in that singular tone, but there's

680
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: no secret this building could use some upgrades. And that's okay. Yeah,

681
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: and I think that's the right mentality. You want to

682
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: be the best of everything. But I will say for me, Um,

683
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: your facilities are secondary. Um while important, and you want

684
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: to have you know, you want to make sure the

685
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: players are taken care of and you're giving them the best.

686
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: To his points, because you're to expect the best. Um,

687
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: But at the end, of the day. Let's be realistic.

688
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: Facilities aren't. You can't overnight great new facilities. Now you

689
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: can upgrade some internal facilities and do you know, put

690
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: some you know, nice finishes around and do some nice things.

691
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: But as far as the hold you know, wholesale new

692
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: facilities and new practice facilities and buildings everything else, that

693
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: takes years. UM. And So while I love it that

694
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: we should always be progressing and shooting for the stars

695
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: and investing and get bringing the best and expecting the best,

696
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: no doubt about it, I think the bigger message and

697
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: I think what I've heard him say as well, it's like,

698
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: we're going to create the best atmosphere for the for

699
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: this organization, best coaches. We're gonna demand of the players.

700
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: We're gonna treat the players the right way. We'll do

701
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: all these things and create the right culture and atmosphere

702
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: with the right standard UM, and we expect to win,

703
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: because if you look at winning, you know what you're

704
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: measured by the wins and losses. It's not you know,

705
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: how great your facilities are, not um, It's about what

706
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: are you putting on the field, And to put the

707
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: right product on the field which produces wins. It's all

708
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: about getting the right people in the building, and that

709
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: starts with the right players and the right coaches and

710
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: in the right personnel, people that are aligned with the

711
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: coaches to pick the players and design it, and the

712
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 1: right support staff that is gonna support the coaches and players.

713
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 1: It's all about getting the right people in the right

714
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: system in place, um of how we do things. And

715
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Speaker 1: I think that's what you know Urban has done in

716
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: the past, you know, at places like Ohio State and Florida,

717
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: and I expect him to do the same thing here.

718
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: I think the facilities well, yes, nice, Yes, I hope

719
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: we get them. Yes, I hope we invest. And I

720
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: think Sean will he's never been try to invest. There's

721
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. UM. To me, that secondary it's

722
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 1: about getting the right people, the right process, the right culture,

723
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: and setting the right standard of how we do things.

724
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: As Jacksonville Jaguars right Tony and his introductory interview with JP,

725
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,920
Speaker 1: Shatterkey said, I want to treat players great, not good,

726
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: and that was good to hear, especially with all the

727
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: drama that's been around with free agency. Jeff, you kind

728
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: of want to set the tone right here right now

729
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: that it is going to be a busy free agency period.

730
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 1: We're gonna do it the right way. And I don't

731
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: think he means okay, And and Tony will attest to

732
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: this when when a coach says that we want to

733
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 1: treat our players great, it doesn't mean that you pamper them. Yeah,

734
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: I mean this is this is not the health club

735
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: where you get manny petties and back rubs and neck

736
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: rubs while you're studying the playbook. I mean, it's it's football.

737
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: But you want to have the players to have the

738
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: best of the best. And I will say this is

739
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: that shot con in this organization has never skimped on

740
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Speaker 1: making sure that the players have the best of the best.

741
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: The dining hall, the food, the best of the best.

742
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: We get to experience that first thing they have besides therapy,

743
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: they have all these other things that are available to

744
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: players and readily available and have for a number of years, nutritionists, everything. So, uh,

745
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: Tony's right, And that look tomorrow, all of a sudden,

746
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: there's not gonna be a brand new facility out there

747
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: to where you go, welcome to the new facility. You know,

748
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: you gotta win some football games, but treat your players

749
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Speaker 1: the best of the the best of what you have, and

750
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: in the meantime, if you are looking at upgrading or

751
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: doing something completely separate, that's all fine and Danny, but

752
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 1: treat the players great, and Peter, treat them with respect,

753
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: but you don't pamper them as well if you treat

754
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: them like professionals. And there's a lot of organizations out

755
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: there in the National Football League that are considered the

756
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: best of the best as far as doing some of that,

757
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: and they're the ones that are typically winning year in

758
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: and year out. So you want to try to continue

759
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: to or to change the way you do things more

760
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: in line with some of the teams that historically have

761
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: success Urine in euro So let's talk about that a

762
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: little bit more, Jeff, because I want to talk about

763
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: this whole concept of treating players great. Um, because everything

764
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: you said is true. You're like, but every team can

765
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: do that. Every team can have massage therapists, every team

766
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: can have good food, and every team can have you know,

767
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: all the you know, nice things that help a player

768
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: get ready, all great things. I don't think I think

769
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Speaker 1: that's only part of it. Because when I think about

770
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Speaker 1: and Jeff, I love your perspective on this when I

771
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: think about what the players want, and I think it's

772
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,720
Speaker 1: a couple of things. One, players want to go somewhere

773
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: where they know they can get better, like like you like,

774
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna become better players, and they have a chance

775
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: to succeed because if they succeed, that's you know, will

776
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: translate hopefully to wins, but also translates into monetary value

777
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: of their services in the future. So One, players want

778
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: to go somewhere they feel like they're getting better to

779
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: a big thing, and I think this is critical. Players

780
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 1: want to feel valued. They want to feel their services

781
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: are valued. What they do matters and that's important. And

782
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: the way you do that you have to be able

783
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: to build relationships with players. They have to know you.

784
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: They have to know that the organization cares about what

785
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 1: they're doing, who they are in the sacrifice and the

786
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: work they're putting in that it matters. The third thing

787
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 1: I think they wanted consistency. I never I'm not a

788
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: big believer that players um are expecting to be treated

789
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: and like you know, there's always this hard coaches player coaches,

790
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: both of one. What's the one thing both those haven't

791
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: in common is they're consistent. Players want to know what

792
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: to expect. They don't like surprises. They want to know

793
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 1: what to expect, what the rules are, and that they're enforced,

794
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: and that they show up every day to work and

795
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: there's a consistency with the head coach and the coaching staff.

796
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: And it doesn't change. When you win, everyone's happy. When

797
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 1: you lose, everyone's visible. You know. I think back, Jeff,

798
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: when you and I played here. Tom Conflin was consistent.

799
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: Every day. He was miserable every day. It didn't matter

800
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: if you won or loss. It was the same thing.

801
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: Hard on you. It was in a drive. But as

802
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: a player, you knew what to expect. There were a structure,

803
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: and you didn't always like the way he did it.

804
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that might work today in today's NFL,

805
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: I think, but if you're consistent, you can build relationships

806
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: to players that they know they're valued and their services

807
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: are valued and you're helping them have success. That is

808
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: creating a great atmosphere for players, because that's what they

809
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: all do want. The rest of it is easy. It's

810
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: easy to go higher a massage therapist, it's easy to

811
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: go get good food, it's easy to do all that.

812
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: The hard work is can you build a culture where

813
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: players want to be there, where they feel valued, they

814
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 1: feel appreciated, they have relationships, and they feel like they

815
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to get better and win. That's ultimately

816
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: what they want to do, and they want to get paid.

817
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: I mean, if you can do that, then I think

818
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: that's a great environment for players. Yeah. I think the

819
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: other thing too, that the Jacksonville has kind of a

820
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: built in advantage. I think over a lot of other teams,

821
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: Tony talks about money, cost of living and uh and

822
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: and what the state tax situation is. I mean, obviously

823
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: that provides a huge boost. But the ability to attract

824
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: coaches to Jacksonville is easy because coaches love it here,

825
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: and so Urbans is able to attract a lot of

826
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: coaches that that that I'm sure that he wants because

827
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: of the prospect of living in Jacksonville. I mean, look

828
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: at the number of coaches that have come through here

829
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: that have stayed here. I mean it's it's the list

830
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: is long and so and I think from that standpoint

831
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: to for some players that that is very attractive to

832
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: some players as well. And there's some players that would

833
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: rather have in Atlanta, or have in New York, or

834
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: have some of bigger markets and and for whatever reason,

835
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: but uh, if you if you can capitalize on all

836
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: the things that Tony talked about and make sure that

837
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: all those are in place, because Tony is right, consistency

838
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 1: and expectations, all knowing what what a player is expected

839
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: to do in et cetera. Like Tom Couflin said about it,

840
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: it is that doesn't change. You just don't have to

841
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: be so dagon gruff about it like Tom Cauflin. And

842
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: that's the relationships your face and still be the same way. Well,

843
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: I think in today's players and even in our world today,

844
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 1: you have to be able to build a relationship with people.

845
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: People will go much further for you when they know

846
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 1: you care about them. Um. And you, by the way,

847
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: you can coach people much harder when they know you

848
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: care and you know you they that they're appreciated. And

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Speaker 1: But Tony, I go to you first with this first point,

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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson? What are we doing here, Tony? I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you look at if you look at Cam, uh,

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Speaker 1: At times he looked very good. It looked like he

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Speaker 1: made big improvements, his footwork look better. At other times

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1003
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Speaker 1: And so I think you have to look at what

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Speaker 1: The offensive line you have to build, especially with the

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1009
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Speaker 1: left I mean I'm not gonna say premier. Um. Good

1011
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Speaker 1: with a lot of million dollars guaranteed, Um, you're gonna

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1014
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1015
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Speaker 1: if you're the Jacksville Jaguars, and so I think what

1017
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1018
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1020
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Speaker 1: are we comfortable with paying for this position based on

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1023
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Speaker 1: you have to go start looking in the out in

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Speaker 1: finally you look at the draft and you know you're

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1035
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Speaker 1: So I don't think it's a decision you make in

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1057
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1058
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Speaker 1: and those new eyes may have a different opinion of

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Speaker 1: vastly different opinion than what the eyes were looking at

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Speaker 1: that position before. So well, it's not all new eyes, Jeff.

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Speaker 1: I mean Trent Balky has been looking at this roster

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00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: for a year now. Um. Now maybe you know he

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00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: now has a greater say than he did before. So

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00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: you have existing eyes with new roles and new level

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Speaker 1: of influence. Um, it'll be interesting to see what that

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Speaker 1: he does, Trent does with the personnel department, if there's

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Speaker 1: changes there to get fresh eyes in the process. The

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Speaker 1: reason I bring that up, Tony, is that when you

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Speaker 1: when you have a new set of eyes looking at someone.

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Speaker 1: The reason I say that, for example, Cam Robinson is

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Speaker 1: not Trent Balky's draft pick. Okay, that's right. That's a

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Speaker 1: great point. That changes things because now you're looking at

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Speaker 1: it without your own personal glasses because you have a

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Speaker 1: benefit of retaining or paying a player that you drafted.

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Speaker 1: The people that are making the call now they have

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00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 1: no tie, they have no tie to any past Jaguars

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00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: draft picks. Now it's all about evaluation based on production

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00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: and expected level of production, so that stuff will change,

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Speaker 1: I think as we move forward. I agree. Yep, great,

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00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 1: great points. All right, Tony Boselli, thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: joining us. Enjoy your off season wherever you may be.

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00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: Hopefully a vacation, a break coming soon for you. That

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00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,439
Speaker 1: is Jaguars Happy Hour. Stay tuned for the next hour

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Speaker 1: coming up right here, five o'clock. Appreciate you joining us

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00:57:41,720 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 1: right here on Jaguars dot com Life. Yea, the focus

1087
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: is always on the draft and building your team through

1088
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: the draft. I think you use the other avenues to

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00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: supplement your roster, whether that's in big name free agents, UH,

1090
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 1: mid mid tier free agents, or low end free I

1091
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: think you're always searching to build your roster, whether it's

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00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: from the top down or the bottom up, or somewhere

1093
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: in the middle. UH. Your your goal is to get

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Speaker 1: the best fifty three players you possibly can and go

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00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: to work. I'm a resource for coach, That's what the

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Speaker 1: way I look at it. I provide a service where

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Speaker 1: he can come in, he can bounce things off of me.

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Speaker 1: Question because there's gonna be a lot of questions. There's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of things that are gonna be

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Speaker 1: first time for him. But in the short time I've

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Speaker 1: been with him, the one thing I realized he's a

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Speaker 1: quick study. It's not gonna take him long to figure

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Speaker 1: the rules out and everything that goes with it. And

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Speaker 1: he certainly as a coach, you know, he knows his

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Speaker 1: way around the practice field very well. This is Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Former Jaguar Jeff Loghman and j P. Shadrick provide

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Speaker 1: the latest Jaguars news and what's happening around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: JA begins right now. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour, Ashlan

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01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 1: Sullivan and for JP shatter game much needed vacation for him,

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01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,479
Speaker 1: wishing him lots of fun and relaxation. Here with Jeff

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Speaker 1: Logman on Jaguars Happy Hour. If you have not heard

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Speaker 1: big news of the day, the Jaguars have announced Trent

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01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: Bulky is a new general manager of the Jaguars. We're

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Speaker 1: going to break that down along with Bucky Brooks coming

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Speaker 1: up right here on Jaguars Happy Hour. So, Jeff, initial thoughts,

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Speaker 1: initial reaction from Trent Bulky being the new general manager.

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Speaker 1: I've been told that he's definitely a leader, definitely strongheaded,

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Speaker 1: likes things his way. So I'm curious to see how

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Speaker 1: this goes now with urban Meyer, this is his show

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Speaker 1: to run with the help of Trent Bulky. Well, I

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Speaker 1: think first and foremo so you say strong headed. Who

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Speaker 1: if somebody's good uh and believes in what they do,

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Speaker 1: they should be strong headed. And I like the fact

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Speaker 1: that they got somebody that has experience at being a

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Speaker 1: general manager in the National Football League, because I think

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Speaker 1: having experience is going to help a coach for the

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Speaker 1: first time that he's been in the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: like like an Urban Meyer. So and I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's any uh freak occurrence that Trent Balky was brought

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Speaker 1: into this organization back in the wintertime for just because,

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Speaker 1: oh we liked him and he's a great addition. The

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Speaker 1: reality is, and I think that that ownership probably had

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01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: a little bit of say, I mean, if if Shot

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Speaker 1: Khan had control over the roster last year and then

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Speaker 1: obviously had some input and some of the decision making

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Speaker 1: this year, why would he not have had some input

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Speaker 1: into the hiring of Trent Balky to a position within

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Speaker 1: the Jaguar staff. And so obviously there's a level of

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01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:04,760
Speaker 1: a respect and a level of approval from a very

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01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: get go when he was brought in here, even though

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01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 1: it wasn't for a general manager role, but with how

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01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: things occurred, I think it it worked out very well

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01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:14,439
Speaker 1: and I think Urban will appreciate the experience that Trent

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01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: Balky has. Yes, former director of player Personnel. No coincidence

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01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,880
Speaker 1: that he is now here now general manager of the

1146
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 1: Jaguars and is brought into a perfect situation. You could say,

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Speaker 1: number one overall pick eleven draft picks. You have five

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01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: draft picks in the first three rounds. I don't want

1149
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: to say it it's tough to mess that up because

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01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: I know you can. But pretty ideal situation here for

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01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: Trent Pulls. It's it's ideal if you look at it

1152
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: from the standpoint of boy, there's a lot of draft picks,

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01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: but an ideal situation is to be taken over uh,

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Speaker 1: the general manager position for an organization that has been

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Speaker 1: a perennial winner. I mean that's optimal. I mean this

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01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: is challenging and some people might be scared of it,

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01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: but some of the personnel guys think that this is

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01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 1: a great opportunity because they believe very strongly in their

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Speaker 1: own ability to acquire talent to build an organization, and

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Speaker 1: so there are a lot of positives, but the reality

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Speaker 1: is there's a lot of building to do, a lot

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Speaker 1: of building to do from from every aspect because this

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01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: organization has not been very successful over the years. And

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Speaker 1: it's a great challenge and it's one that I think

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Speaker 1: that Urban Meyer looked at and saw as a great

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Speaker 1: opportunity that uh for for to win number one, but

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Speaker 1: number two, that look, if you go to the NFL

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Speaker 1: and you win, and you have an opportunity to win,

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01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: and you've got the tools and the resources to do it,

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Speaker 1: go for it. It would add to your legacy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson. Look at what Jimmy Johnson was one National Championships.

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Speaker 1: Just like Urban goes to the Cowboys, gets Troy Aikman,

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Speaker 1: already has Michael Irvin there and then has the Herschel

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01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: Walker trade, which gives them a boon of pis. Well,

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01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 1: the Jaguars already have a boon of pix and they're

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Speaker 1: able to build a Super Bowl multiple multi time winner

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Speaker 1: in Dallas, and Jimmy Johnson was a big part of that.

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Speaker 1: So I think Urban looked at that and said, here's

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Speaker 1: my chance to put my stamp in the NFL, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's a great opportunity. It's a great opportunity

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Speaker 1: for everybody. Yeah, I don't blame him at all. He

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Speaker 1: came in here saying I was only going to come

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Speaker 1: into a situation that was perfect and one where I

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Speaker 1: saw that I could win. There's no secret the opportunities there.

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Speaker 1: You just got to go take it. Now. Well, there's

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01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: there's other opportunities around the National Football League that have

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Speaker 1: been filled. But some of those opportunities, there are opportunities

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Speaker 1: just from the standpoint to look, there's only thirty two

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Speaker 1: positions of being a head coach, but you look at

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Speaker 1: some of them, and not to name names, but some

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Speaker 1: of them are teams that have a commitment to the

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Speaker 1: quarterback that you can't get out of, and the quarterback

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Speaker 1: play hasn't been great. The cap situations are horrendous. Some

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Speaker 1: teams don't have any draft capital, and then have a

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Speaker 1: situation where some people on staff are untouchable or seem

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Speaker 1: to be untouchable. Um and in a quarterback that's very unhappy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, So there's all these well I mean take

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Speaker 1: your pick, uh and and ownership issues that that aren't

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Speaker 1: particularly strong, and and so this situation strong ownership, willing

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Speaker 1: to spend commitment to whatever resources are available, lots of

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Speaker 1: draft picks, lots of cap room, and an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: take a piece of clay and mold it into your eyes.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what probably and would have if

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Speaker 1: I'm urban Meyer, that would have made this job extremely attractive.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure that's one of the big reasons he

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Speaker 1: took it, because I mean, he knows that, uh, this

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Speaker 1: is a quarterback game, and he said that before in

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Speaker 1: this press conference, and he didn't say just it's a

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Speaker 1: quarterback league. He said, it's a quarterback game. And here

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Speaker 1: you are. You're you're sitting there with the first overall

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Speaker 1: picking an opportunity to pick a quarterback that you can

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Speaker 1: pick and have a chance to win the future. So

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Speaker 1: I was just too much to pass up for him.

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Speaker 1: I could not agree more. And now he has the

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Speaker 1: task of building a coaching staff. And I was talking

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Speaker 1: to someone and they said, yes, it's great that you

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Speaker 1: come into this opportunity, and it's a great opera tunity,

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Speaker 1: very well publicized. But it's also incredibly hard to be

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Speaker 1: a head coach right now because you have every coach

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Speaker 1: you've ever been around calling you saying, hey, give me

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Speaker 1: an opportunity. You don't really know what you're doing, as

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Speaker 1: well as NFL experience. To all these people are calling you,

1223
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Speaker 1: who do you put where? There's all these interviews going on.

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Speaker 1: It stresses me out just thinking about it. I'm not

1225
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Speaker 1: gonna lie because I can only imagine the phone calls

1226
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Speaker 1: he's getting right now, what's true, what's not? I can

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Speaker 1: tell you this, Ashley, and it's a hell of a

1228
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Speaker 1: lot better to have people calling you wanting a job

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Speaker 1: than people that are going, I don't want to have

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Speaker 1: anything to do with you in the job, because I

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Speaker 1: I can tell you there are markets and situations that

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Speaker 1: are like that. So having people call you that's great.

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Speaker 1: Now you can cherry pick, you know, because if you've

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Speaker 1: got six guys calling you for one position and urban

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Speaker 1: talked about being the best of the best and making

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Speaker 1: having an elite staff, well, okay, if you've got six

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Speaker 1: to choose from seven, eight to choose from, to hell

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01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 1: a lot better than some other market that has nobody

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Speaker 1: calling you because they don't want to work for you,

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Speaker 1: because they know that the situation you're in, you don't

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Speaker 1: have a chance. And so when more people are calling you,

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01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: that's a good thing. And so then you can say, Okay,

1243
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna take him because he is the best out

1244
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Speaker 1: of this group. He is the best I can get.

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01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: And so that's a positive, even though it might think

1246
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: you're driving crazy because all these people are calling you. Look,

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01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 1: urban Meyer has a vast history with coaches and and

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Speaker 1: a and a very strong network. I'm sure of people

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Speaker 1: that he can make phone calls to, like he's done

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Speaker 1: with Jimmy Johnson in the past, to be able to

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01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: get information on some people that he may not know

1252
01:07:29,320 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 1: about but might be an ace on his staff. And

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's usually utilizing all of those tools. Yes,

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01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: that guy, safe to say, knows a lot of people

1255
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,160
Speaker 1: around the league, around college football. He's got three sources

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Speaker 1: to make it happen. All right. When we come back

1257
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Speaker 1: on Jaguars Happy, our NFL Draft network analyst Bucky Brooks

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Speaker 1: joins us right here on Jaguars Happy. Are on the

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Speaker 1: Jeff Bloggerman and NFL Draft Network analyst Bucky Brooks joins

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Speaker 1: us now all the way from California. Buckey, thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining us the big news of the day as

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Speaker 1: Trent Fulky is the new general manager for the Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: What were your thoughts, um, I thought was a very

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Speaker 1: similar to what Jeff had uttered. We talked about experience

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Speaker 1: being a huge part of this process. When you have

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Speaker 1: Football League, you want to pay them with someone who

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Speaker 1: knows the ins and outs of the league. Because Balky

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Speaker 1: meaning the best decision for the Jaguars. I think this

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Speaker 1: is an interesting matchup. I think this was something that

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Speaker 1: gotta get Bucky's some upgrade calls there. I'm never gonna

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Speaker 1: live this down ever. Uh, Bucky, I had to do

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Speaker 1: that because Joe is telling me, I can't believe you

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Speaker 1: didn't call a out at the end of the last show.

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Speaker 1: So whether I was calling a out, Okay, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Hold everybody accountable. Yes, it's fair, it's fair. I'll take

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Speaker 1: the blame alright, Bucky. We are getting ready for the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl next week in Mobile, Alabama. We will be

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Speaker 1: it from your home. Needless to say, the Senior Bowl

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Speaker 1: is gonna look a little different this year. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: is going to look a little different. Like there are

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Speaker 1: all kinds of protocols put in place to protect the players, uh,

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Speaker 1: limiting the amount of representatives from each team that can

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Speaker 1: But I think this is a great opportunity to still

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Speaker 1: see these prospects. And when you think about the opt

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Speaker 1: outs and the limited games and the different amount of games,

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Speaker 1: and some of these players have played the Senior Bowl

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Speaker 1: will really help a lot of guys kind of determine

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Speaker 1: where players fit on the board. And never forget, without

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Speaker 1: the combine, we won't get a chance to see a

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Speaker 1: lot of the top prospects on the field together. And

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Speaker 1: so when you're doing these comparisons between maybe why receiver

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Speaker 1: three and wide receiver four, to be able to potentially

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Speaker 1: see them go through drills, work out back to back

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Speaker 1: and do that, it will help you separate some of

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Speaker 1: the clusters that ultimately exist on the draft boards when

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Speaker 1: it comes closer to draft time. Yeah, I think you've

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Speaker 1: got a great point there, Bucky, as far as I mean,

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Speaker 1: you have some opt outs that didn't even play in

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Speaker 1: a college season that may participate in an All Star Game.

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Speaker 1: There's some programs like Florida State that didn't play a

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Speaker 1: lot of football games this year. So and most importantly,

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Speaker 1: when you have an All Star game, it's about seeing

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Speaker 1: NFL quality players against other NFL quality players. And I know,

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Speaker 1: for me personally, when when I played in the Blue

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Speaker 1: and then also the East West Shrine Game. It raised

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Speaker 1: my UH profile because I was able to play some

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Speaker 1: different positions, but also to go against what we're viewed

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Speaker 1: as other NFL caliber players. And that's a huge, huge,

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Speaker 1: important thing. I think UH for the All Star Games

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Speaker 1: is because now you can start comparing apples to apples

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Speaker 1: when you're evaluating guys. And a perfect example of that,

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Speaker 1: Buck I remember watching Brandon Linder and his All Star performance,

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Speaker 1: and I was watching him against other guys that were

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Speaker 1: considered extremely high draft ability why and he was working

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Speaker 1: on them and so that obviously raised his level of

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Speaker 1: stature as well. So all Star games crazy important. And

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Speaker 1: the combine what's the status on that, Bucky, what's is

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Speaker 1: not even gonna exist? What's the deal? So a couple

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Speaker 1: of different things, because I think you hit on a

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Speaker 1: couple of points that are really important. Um knowing one

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Speaker 1: and nointry embarking and knowing this scouting staff. All Star

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Speaker 1: games will have significance now you await them accordingly. But

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Speaker 1: because you haven't seen some of these players play against

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Speaker 1: elite competition, the All Star Game could give you a

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Speaker 1: little preview in terms of how they may play at

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Speaker 1: the next level, particularly for those guys who may come

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Speaker 1: from smaller schools or smaller programs. It's a huge evaluation

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Speaker 1: tool as it relates to the combine. The way the

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Speaker 1: combine is going to exist now is really it's a

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Speaker 1: virtual combine. Teams will do uh the zoom interviews and

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Speaker 1: conduct that part of it virtually. Eventually they will figure

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Speaker 1: out of time to have everyone come in to do

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Speaker 1: the medical stuff, but pro days will now be the

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Speaker 1: big thing. Scouts will have to get on the road

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Speaker 1: or have to figure out a way to live stream

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Speaker 1: to see these prospects work out because logs, as you

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Speaker 1: talk about, some of these guys haven't played since twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: You have no idea what their sizes, you don't know

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Speaker 1: what their way to, You don't even know if they

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Speaker 1: move around the same way that they moved around the

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Speaker 1: being able to try and get some kind of evaluation

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Speaker 1: on the athleticism, the movement skills and those things, it's

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Speaker 1: a challenge this year and I think the best teams,

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Speaker 1: will be paramount It's always big in the evaluation process,

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Speaker 1: but I think this year more than ever, you have

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Speaker 1: the tape. I think the players that played this year,

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Speaker 1: and it's not I'm not saying it was their fault

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Speaker 1: whether they did or didn't, but the players that played,

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Speaker 1: And and that's unfortunate because some players had serious concerned

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Speaker 1: if you're a personnel man, you're gonna go with what

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Speaker 1: And some guys that you may be projected Bucky as

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Speaker 1: you know what, he may not be a first round

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Speaker 1: for Trent Balky because he's working with the stat that

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Speaker 1: he didn't choose for the most part, So he has

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Speaker 1: can trust, because this is a year that scouting makes

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Speaker 1: a huge point. Is one of those things that will

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Speaker 1: And so when you're assessing the room, you have to

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Speaker 1: two similar graded players on the draft board, right, absolutely

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Jaguar's Happy Hour. Here's your host TV

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Speaker 1: shad Rick Slatters It called Sasty Shattucks. I'm Jaguars Happy

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01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 1: Hour Ashley fell even here with Jeff Logoman and Bucky

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01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,680
Speaker 1: Brooks as we get ready for the Senior Bowl just

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01:21:04,960 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: next week in Mobile, Alabama, and Bucky you will be

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01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 1: there with NFL Network virtually of course. And I have

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01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 1: a feeling we're not gonna be able to get away

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01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,600
Speaker 1: from the talk of Trevor Lawrence and the number one

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01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: overall pick. Obviously he won't be there. So from a

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01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 1: Jaguars perspective, what are you gonna be looking at? Immobile?

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01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. You have a really talented collection

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01:21:25,120 --> 01:21:27,719
Speaker 1: of players and prospects, and you actually have some guys

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01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 1: who are opt outs who are elected to play in

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01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 1: this All Star Game because they understand the significance. I

1515
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: think the one thing that you want to do if

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01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 1: you're a Jaguars fan, um, you want to pay attention

1517
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 1: to the guys that really pop at first glance during

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01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 1: the Tuesday, Wednesday Thursday portion of practices. That's really where

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01:21:44,520 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 1: the money is made in terms of how guys compete,

1520
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 1: what guys look like. Do they progress and get better

1521
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 1: each and every day? So do they look like a

1522
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 1: better player on Wednesday than they do it on Tuesday?

1523
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 1: Do they feel comfortable on Thursday as opposed to the

1524
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,479
Speaker 1: way they looked on Tuesday and Wednesday. I think that's

1525
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 1: really really important. It's unfortunate that the Jaguars don't have

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01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 1: an opportunity to coach in this game because what it

1527
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:09,040
Speaker 1: does do. It gives you an opportunity to get around players.

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01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:12,559
Speaker 1: And it's one thing to speculate how a player will perform,

1529
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 1: it's another thing to actually coach him, get around him,

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01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: know him, Watch the study habits, watch how it takes

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01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 1: things from the boardroom to the field, and so some

1532
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 1: of that stuff you would have to kind of call

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01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 1: in your context or whatever. But it's a lot of talent,

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01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 1: it's a lot of guys to watch and will continue

1535
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 1: to change because, as we know in All Star games,

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01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 1: some guys have a tendency to play the first part

1537
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 1: of the week and then they go by the wayside

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01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 1: and you end up seeing other guys when it comes

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01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 1: to game game. Yeah, and uh, one of the one

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01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: of the critical parts of All Star Games is practice evaluations.

1541
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see how teams go about

1542
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 1: it because of some of the restrictions that the All

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01:22:48,760 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 1: Star Games are gonna have in place. And I'm sure

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01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 1: that they're gonna disseminate all the film. I'm I'm a

1545
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 1: big believer in that one of the one of the

1546
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 1: areas that you really get a good look at and

1547
01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:03,360
Speaker 1: a a or thorough understanding of guys is the offensive

1548
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:05,519
Speaker 1: lineman in the All Star Games. And the reason I

1549
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 1: say that is a lot of times certain teams have

1550
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 1: so much talent at the skill position, it has a

1551
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 1: tendency to overpower the offensive line position. And you can

1552
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 1: really get a good evaluation on a guy that because

1553
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,400
Speaker 1: he's kind of on an island and so to speak,

1554
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 1: at an All Star Game, because he doesn't have a

1555
01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:25,720
Speaker 1: comfort level working with the guy to the left and

1556
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 1: the guy to the right, so they basically have to

1557
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 1: survive on their own. So you get a really good

1558
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 1: evaluation of their athleticism, their power and everything else. And

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01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: so that's that's one aspect I mean, for me, if

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01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,240
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the All Star Games, I'm really focusing

1561
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. That's I think you get really

1562
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:45,599
Speaker 1: good information their skill position players. They always rise and

1563
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 1: they always stand out and they will continue to stand out.

1564
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 1: But the quarterback play typically in an All Star Game

1565
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 1: is not great enough to make a lot of the

1566
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:56,719
Speaker 1: skill position players stand out. But that offensive line position,

1567
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 1: that's where I think you can find out really worth

1568
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:02,200
Speaker 1: some guys really need to be. You know, it's funny, Jeff,

1569
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 1: because the trenches are everything, and so whether we talk

1570
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 1: about the offensive line or the defensive line. Those battles

1571
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: really matter, and so and practice is all about looking

1572
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 1: at nine on seven and so for the viewer of

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01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 1: the listener, that is where we take the skill guys

1574
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:17,800
Speaker 1: out and we basically just have the core of the

1575
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 1: offensive line going against the core of the defensive line

1576
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 1: and the linebackers. We have the quarterback and the running backs,

1577
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 1: but it's a run period, is a physical period, and

1578
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:27,840
Speaker 1: you really get to see who can kind of stand

1579
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:29,680
Speaker 1: the test of time in terms of being able to

1580
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:33,120
Speaker 1: control the point of attack. Also the one on one

1581
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,479
Speaker 1: situations that you see pass rush situations, being able to

1582
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:40,600
Speaker 1: see as Jeff you alluded to those offensive linemen on islands,

1583
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 1: because unlike in the game where you can lean on

1584
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:45,880
Speaker 1: your neighbors and get somebody help and stuff, if you're

1585
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 1: playing inside a guard or even outside where the tied

1586
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 1: end and the running back and chip, you get a

1587
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 1: chance to really do this all by yourself. And so

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01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 1: seeing how those guys perform in those events that's critical,

1589
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:59,719
Speaker 1: and I think it's very very critical to the overall evaluation. Yeah,

1590
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 1: it's it's one of these I think it's one of

1591
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:05,680
Speaker 1: the hardest positions to evaluate. And so the more information

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01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,760
Speaker 1: that you can get, the better, and then the All

1593
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 1: Star Games provide that. And I'll give you a story

1594
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 1: Ashland back uh, and I'll make it quick. When I

1595
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:17,519
Speaker 1: was a player here in Jacksonville and Buck, I'll never

1596
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: forget he was, I think, like a fourth round pick

1597
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:23,120
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. And I'll never forget the first day that

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01:25:23,160 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: we went in pads, and I remember the first day

1599
01:25:26,120 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 1: in pats and I remember I watched him for the

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01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 1: first round. I this guy has no chance of playing

1601
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 1: in the National He's got no chance. I mean he

1602
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: couldn't get into a stance without his ankles and his

1603
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,639
Speaker 1: knees going in these crazy directions. And it was one practice,

1604
01:25:38,640 --> 01:25:40,559
Speaker 1: You're going, he's got no chance. And I'm sitting there

1605
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:44,560
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, what the heck were they watching? What

1606
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: do they evaluate on this guy? Because I mean there

1607
01:25:47,880 --> 01:25:50,519
Speaker 1: are offensive lineman that play on good teams that if

1608
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 1: you've got a great running back and a great quarterback,

1609
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: you can make an offensive lineman look pretty good. And

1610
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,600
Speaker 1: so I'll just I'll never forget that. I was just

1611
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,559
Speaker 1: like man one day and I kind of had this

1612
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 1: guy pick that he wasn't even gonna make the roster

1613
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:04,040
Speaker 1: but he made the roster just because he was a

1614
01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 1: draft pack. But then soon after that he was bye bye.

1615
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 1: You know I couldn't play. You're passionate about this. I

1616
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:15,360
Speaker 1: hope the more information you can get at the offensive line,

1617
01:26:15,439 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 1: the better yere off you are. I can tell you

1618
01:26:17,080 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 1: that well ask to talk about what what lives is saying.

1619
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:22,720
Speaker 1: A lot of times you're seeing these guys come from

1620
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 1: these offenses that are so spread heavy, so pass happy,

1621
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 1: that you really don't know if they can translate to

1622
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 1: the NFL game, because the NFL game is about the

1623
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 1: running game as much as we talk about the passing game.

1624
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 1: And can you get into three point stance? Can you

1625
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 1: move people off the ball and pass protection? Can you

1626
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,759
Speaker 1: deal with the superheroes that play on the defensive line,

1627
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 1: because these guys look they can leap tall buildings in

1628
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:47,200
Speaker 1: a single bound, and if you don't have the foot quickness,

1629
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,639
Speaker 1: if you don't have the ability to anchor, it makes

1630
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 1: it very difficult for you to play in this league

1631
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:54,680
Speaker 1: for a long time. And sometimes you can't assess that

1632
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: on tape. Sometimes you have to see them in practice,

1633
01:26:57,000 --> 01:27:00,120
Speaker 1: go against other good players to really determine how that

1634
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:03,640
Speaker 1: they are as prospect. Very fair, very fair. I have

1635
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: a predicament. I guess I can say it for you too.

1636
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 1: And I hope my dad's watching because he always says,

1637
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 1: as you look at Joe Burrow and Cincinnati and they say, oh,

1638
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 1: you know they didn't address the offensive line. That's why

1639
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow got hurt. Obviously that was going to happen. Now,

1640
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 1: obviously that's not true. Injuries happen in the NFL. So Bucky,

1641
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 1: I'll go to you. How much a priority is this

1642
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 1: offensive line is? They must need got to relok At

1643
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 1: everything we read at the combine last year and everyone

1644
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 1: said fan wise, oh, you have to completely redo the

1645
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:35,639
Speaker 1: offensive line. Coaching staff said, no, it's not that bad. Guys,

1646
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 1: just wait and see so Jaguars taking a quarterback number

1647
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 1: one overall, how much are you looking at this offensive line?

1648
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:43,880
Speaker 1: I think you have to consider because I think a

1649
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:46,240
Speaker 1: lot is to be determinent about Cam Robinson, and so

1650
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 1: depending on if you bring him back as your left tackle,

1651
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 1: you may or may not have a big void. But

1652
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 1: I think with the offensive line, I don't think you

1653
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 1: ever can have enough of them. If you look at

1654
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:59,680
Speaker 1: the best teams in this division, their offensive line is solidified.

1655
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,200
Speaker 1: The Indianapolist Coast offensive line is one of the best

1656
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 1: in football. You look at the way the Tennessee Titans

1657
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 1: dominate in the trenches is because they've invested in the

1658
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 1: offensive line. I will say this, I believe your offensive

1659
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:13,960
Speaker 1: line and your defensive line are the lifeblood of your team.

1660
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 1: And if you don't invest in those guys, if you

1661
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 1: don't have a level offensive and defensive lines, it is

1662
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 1: hard to win consistently in the league. I think it's

1663
01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 1: something that always needs to be addressed. And luckily in

1664
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 1: this class there are a number of offensive tackles that

1665
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 1: could be there in the middle to the bottom of

1666
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 1: the first round. It would be great because you can

1667
01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:35,439
Speaker 1: improve an offensive line by getting better players number one,

1668
01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 1: and also creating competition, and then you got to improve

1669
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 1: with what you got. And and I really believe this.

1670
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 1: I think you create competition on this Jaguars offensive line

1671
01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:47,479
Speaker 1: to make those guys push themselves. But then also you

1672
01:28:47,520 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 1: have to expect more out of these guys. Jo Wanna Tellor,

1673
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,080
Speaker 1: I think is a perfect example. Bucky I mean, I

1674
01:28:52,640 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 1: like his athleticism. I think he can be an elite

1675
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: right tackle in this league. And last year was not

1676
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 1: the standard that he needs to meet. In my in you, Oh, Jeff,

1677
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:03,760
Speaker 1: I think that's everything. And I think when you have

1678
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:06,879
Speaker 1: a new coaching staff coming in, a new general manager,

1679
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 1: I think everybody in the building has to perk up

1680
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,280
Speaker 1: on the roster. And when you think about this offensive line,

1681
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 1: there's no one that's invested in whoever the five guys

1682
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,880
Speaker 1: that were out there last year. So now you bring

1683
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 1: in better guys, guys that can push, because not only

1684
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 1: do you want the best guys to play, but you

1685
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 1: want the backups to be capable of being starters. The

1686
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: best teams have that kind of depth where you have

1687
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 1: seven eight guys that can play and function at a

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Speaker 1: with our friend Bucky Brooks. On this Thursday afternoon, we

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Speaker 1: had a press conference day with head coach Urban Meyer

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01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 1: as well as the new general manager, Trent Bulky, and

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Speaker 1: they are hard at work building a coaching staff. Bucky.

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01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:18,960
Speaker 1: There's all kinds of reports going on. Every time you

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Speaker 1: log on the Twitter you see a new one. But

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Speaker 1: what do you think in favorite so far for offensive

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01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 1: coordinator defensive coordinator? Were talking Joe calling a couple of

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01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:29,920
Speaker 1: breaks back. Definitely a favorite here in Jackson. So how

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01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 1: do you think this plays out? Yeah, I think Joe

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01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 1: Cullen certainly has the inside track in terms of being

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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, and I think he comes with a

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01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,640
Speaker 1: lot of experience. Obviously haven't been down there before, but

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01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: his time with Baltimore. When you look at the Baltimore

1748
01:32:44,360 --> 01:32:48,320
Speaker 1: Ravens and that defense very very very multiple. They can

1749
01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:51,400
Speaker 1: attack your protections in a few different ways and they're

1750
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:54,639
Speaker 1: very very aggressive. The thing that I would I would

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01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 1: say is if he comes in, if he is the

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01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, you just need to make sure that your

1753
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:03,519
Speaker 1: second dairy coaches understand how to fit the pieces around it,

1754
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 1: because sometimes guys that live upfront have a tougher time

1755
01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 1: matching up in the back end when it comes to coverage.

1756
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 1: So it puts a greater premium on making sure that

1757
01:33:13,120 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 1: your dB coaches are great teachers and also great schemers,

1758
01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 1: so they can make the magic on the board really

1759
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:23,639
Speaker 1: work in real life when you get to the field. Yeah,

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01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 1: I mean, typically you see a guy that goes from

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Speaker 1: a positional coach to a coordinator position on defense having

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01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 1: had experience either as the linebackers coach or as a

1763
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:38,280
Speaker 1: secondary coach. Just from a coverage standpoint, I think, well,

1764
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 1: obviously what Bucky's talking about right there, and so it

1765
01:33:41,439 --> 01:33:43,680
Speaker 1: is odd that you see a defensive line coach go

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01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 1: up to the coordinator position. But but I will say this, Bucky,

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01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 1: you know, look at having been a former defensive lineman. Look,

1768
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 1: we're not all dummies, Okay, we we do understand the

1769
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 1: defensive concepts. Okay, just because we play defensive line doesn't

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01:33:58,320 --> 01:34:00,679
Speaker 1: mean that we don't didn't understand cover just as well.

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01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:04,759
Speaker 1: You know, I think, I think, I think it's interesting,

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Speaker 1: But I will say this, typically what happens when you

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01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 1: do that, because we've seen guys have success. Dan Quinn

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01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:13,719
Speaker 1: has been a successful defensive coordinator. Typically, what happens, though,

1775
01:34:13,960 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 1: is that experience having dealt with the big guys in

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01:34:17,439 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, you're going to be dominant against

1777
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:22,400
Speaker 1: the run. Typically, that's always going to be the point

1778
01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:24,040
Speaker 1: of emphasis. We've got to stop to run to make

1779
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 1: teams one dimensional. And in today's game, even though we

1780
01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 1: talked about it being a passing league in the playoffs

1781
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 1: and when it gets to the last part of the season,

1782
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:34,559
Speaker 1: the running game matters and you have to be able

1783
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:36,840
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to stop that, to force

1784
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 1: people to throw when you really want to throw. And so, look,

1785
01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 1: I think he has an opportunity to do a really

1786
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,479
Speaker 1: good job that experienced servicing will not only in Jackson,

1787
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:46,840
Speaker 1: but also in Baltimore. So I look forward to it.

1788
01:34:47,000 --> 01:34:49,679
Speaker 1: I know there's some other guys that were being banded around,

1789
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:51,680
Speaker 1: but it seems like Colin is going to be the

1790
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:53,639
Speaker 1: guy at defense. Yeah, I mean that's what I mean.

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01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 1: Look at look actually looking at my phone just a

1792
01:34:55,960 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 1: few minutes ago. I mean, all the reports are is

1793
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:01,439
Speaker 1: that Joe Cullen is the defensive coordinator and Bucky Uh.

1794
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 1: I know Joe, Joe very well, good guy and excited

1795
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 1: for him. And what's amazing to me Ashland is and

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01:35:08,000 --> 01:35:12,400
Speaker 1: Bucky you know this, the number of defensive coordinators that

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Speaker 1: have come out of Baltimore's positional group. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's immense, and uh, it's almost as if, Look,

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Speaker 1: if you want to get a defensive coordinator position, go

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Speaker 1: to Baltimore. Okay, be uh just a low level guy

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01:35:27,960 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 1: on defense, advanced to a position, and then you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be a defensive coordinator one day. And then for many

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01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 1: years it was automatic defensive coordinator for Baltimore. Ravens, guess what,

1804
01:35:37,880 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 1: you're a head coach in the waiting coming out of Baltimore. Yeah,

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01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's been there for a long time, Jeff,

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01:35:44,560 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 1: going back to when we played together in the mid nineties,

1807
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 1: Baltimore has always been known for their defense and the

1808
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 1: way they've consistently kind of built that team in that

1809
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:56,040
Speaker 1: program around the toughness, the physicality, and aggressiveness of the defense.

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01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:00,520
Speaker 1: And I just hope like that can pop up in Axonville,

1811
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:03,879
Speaker 1: because you would like to see kind of a defensive oriented,

1812
01:36:03,960 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 1: defensive centric team because at the end of the day,

1813
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 1: the teams that separate themselves are the ones that can

1814
01:36:09,280 --> 01:36:11,920
Speaker 1: get stops. All of the teams that continue to play

1815
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 1: in the final four are teams that can stop people.

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01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 1: When you need to and I think it has to

1817
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 1: be a part of the program going forward. I couldnot

1818
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 1: agree more. And Buckey, I want your opinion on this

1819
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:22,759
Speaker 1: as well. We talked a couple of segments ago about

1820
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:26,479
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator position, Scotland Ahan Anthony Lynn. I have

1821
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:29,880
Speaker 1: question marks around both that there's also positives about both,

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01:36:29,960 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 1: and we said, you know, chaina coming in, who do

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01:36:31,840 --> 01:36:34,479
Speaker 1: you call offensive coordinator? Can can they be a tie?

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01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:36,680
Speaker 1: Can you have both of them? Because they're both pre qualified.

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01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 1: You know, I think there's a way that you can

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Speaker 1: do it. Like it really just depends and a lot

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01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:44,280
Speaker 1: of it depends on the ego. I'll talk about Anthony

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01:36:44,439 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 1: land first and Anthony Lynn. What you're hoping to get

1829
01:36:48,200 --> 01:36:52,120
Speaker 1: is what is the soup dejour, meaning that Shanahan run

1830
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:56,679
Speaker 1: game that system because that system has made um average players,

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01:36:56,760 --> 01:37:00,760
Speaker 1: good good players into superstars. And so if you can

1832
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 1: get that offensive system where you got the offensive line

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01:37:03,600 --> 01:37:05,680
Speaker 1: working on tracks, you have running backs that are down

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01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 1: here one cut runners who James Robinson certainly fits the

1835
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 1: build and that you now can run. You can run

1836
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:15,120
Speaker 1: the ball and it takes so much pressure off your quarterback.

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01:37:15,560 --> 01:37:17,599
Speaker 1: In a perfect world, if you can take Anthony Lynn

1838
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:19,479
Speaker 1: with that run game and then match him up with

1839
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:21,880
Speaker 1: Scott Linahan and what he's been able to do in

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01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 1: the passing game. Yes, it would be great. I will

1841
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 1: say this about Scott Linahan. A lot of people will

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01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:28,559
Speaker 1: kind of go back and forth in him and hall

1843
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:30,519
Speaker 1: On Lenahan. But if you look at the work that

1844
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 1: he did in Dallas with Dak Prescott, young quarterback got

1845
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:36,519
Speaker 1: him up and going. Now, they had pieces in place,

1846
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 1: meaning the offensive line was solidified, they had a running

1847
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:42,680
Speaker 1: back in Ezekiel Elliott, and as dat got better, he

1848
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,519
Speaker 1: grew from being what I would call a game manager

1849
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 1: to being more of a playmaker. Even though we can

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01:37:49,280 --> 01:37:53,360
Speaker 1: celebrate and go crazy over what Trevor Lawrence potentially could

1851
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:55,799
Speaker 1: be if he is to pick, you have to remember

1852
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,880
Speaker 1: it's a young quarterback. You don't want to task him

1853
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 1: with too much of that. You want to be able

1854
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:04,439
Speaker 1: to have a balanced offense that allows the quarterback to

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01:38:04,600 --> 01:38:07,559
Speaker 1: grow into being a playmaker. You don't want to ask

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01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 1: him to be a playmaker in your one. You gotta

1857
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:12,120
Speaker 1: take the pressure off of them. And that's and it's

1858
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 1: funny that you talk about Dallas and and how Scott

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01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 1: Lanahan was able to help out Dak Prescott when well,

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01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:21,680
Speaker 1: you brought up a good point and that well, that

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Speaker 1: offensive line and Ezeko Elliott was what made Scott Lanahan

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01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 1: good and what made Dak Prescott have the time to

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Speaker 1: be able to develop. I mean again, I mean even

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Speaker 1: though we talk about coaches being important, and they are

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01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:35,679
Speaker 1: very important, and you can question offensive coordinators every day

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01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 1: and three times on Sunday, but when you start to

1867
01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:44,040
Speaker 1: have really good players, it becomes harder to question offensive coordinators. Absolutely,

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01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 1: it's a it's a player's game, and that is the

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01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 1: number one thing and we have to keep that in mind.

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Speaker 1: As much as we may talk about the position coaches

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01:38:51,680 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 1: and the coordinators. The number one job first of the

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01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:58,879
Speaker 1: gentlemanager in Urban you gotta bring in a level players

1873
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:02,519
Speaker 1: because the better the players are, the better it is

1874
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:05,080
Speaker 1: that you look as a coach. And so if we

1875
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 1: can bring in a number of five star players that

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01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 1: can come in and have impact, because you need impact

1877
01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:14,880
Speaker 1: players to really change the course of the franchise, that

1878
01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:18,639
Speaker 1: helps all coaches look better. Better players, better team, better team,

1879
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:21,160
Speaker 1: we get more wins. Everyone's excited. Jeff and I are smiling.

1880
01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 1: We're not embroved in this fifteen game loses streak and

1881
01:39:24,920 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 1: trying to find a clicker and trying to find the

1882
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:29,200
Speaker 1: good stuff. Everybody's better when we start winning games and

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01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 1: the stars were better players. I can tell you this, Ashland,

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Speaker 1: I can tell you I can be the best defensive

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Speaker 1: line coach and football. Give me Aaron Donald. Give me

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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, and I can coach him up. But I

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01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:43,720
Speaker 1: can do it. I'll be I'll be one of the

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01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:49,200
Speaker 1: best defensive line coaches in the league. Give me Aaron Donald. Okay, alright.

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01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 1: Coaching search still going on. Hopefully to have that solidified

1890
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:55,000
Speaker 1: next week. Thank you Bucky Brooks for joining us on

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. I won't call you an upgrade, but

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Speaker 1: honestly tell you this excellent. I've never ever been a

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Speaker 1: I found myself rooting for this team to lose this year.

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Speaker 1: You're one of those guys. You weren't the only one.

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Speaker 1: I was I might have found myself rooting for certain

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Speaker 1: pick traffick. So it's fair, it's fair. And I will

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Speaker 1: certainly going to be a big boost. And you know

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Speaker 1: And so now with him having an opportunity to take

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Speaker 1: But then you look at something like Bowling Green. You

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Speaker 1: here on Thursday, getting ready for a busy Sunday championship games.

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Speaker 1: You have Sunday three o'clock Tampa Bay, Green Bay, Sunday

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Speaker 1: six thirty Buffalo in Kansas City. I was telling Jeff

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Speaker 1: in the break that this is Buffaloes year calling in

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Speaker 1: So what do you what are? What's your story with Buffalo? What?

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Speaker 1: What do you got invested in Buffalo. I just think

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Speaker 1: was a weird year, So why not make it any

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Speaker 1: weirder and have the Buffalo Bills win the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: in front of all these other teams that are historic

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Speaker 1: and all this. They're really good. I look, I I

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Speaker 1: think they're They're general manager and coach have done an

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Speaker 1: amazing job. Their young quarterback has made a great progression

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Speaker 1: and his accuracy has gone where people didn't think that

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Speaker 1: it could go. And he is certainly uh an elite

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Speaker 1: athlete as well as having arm talent. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a great battle two young quarterbacks. I just don't think

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Speaker 1: that if Patrick Mahomes plays and he doesn't have any

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Speaker 1: ill effects from the concussion, I just don't see Kansas

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Speaker 1: City losing. But it should be a great football game

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Speaker 1: and I can't wait to see Aaron Rodgerson Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: Championship game for Tom Brady? Are you kidding me? And

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Speaker 1: just to imagine that if Tampa Bay does win that game,

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Speaker 1: they play the first year that Tom Brady is the

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Speaker 1: quarter back in the Super Bowl in their city. You

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Speaker 1: can't write it up better than Matt Are you taking?

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Speaker 1: You're taking? Buffalo? Obviously can take it. I think Buffalo

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Speaker 1: and Green Bay, green Bay. And if you don't beat

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, you just don't. But you also can say

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Speaker 1: the same for Tom Brady. I'm gonna do the exact

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Speaker 1: officer I'm taking. I'm taking Kansas City, Patrick Mahomes and

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Speaker 1: uh and I'm taking Tom Brady in the bucks. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Now that is a game to watch. Okay, Well, then

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Speaker 1: who wins with that? Kansa City? Kan City wins it?

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Speaker 1: All they did that? You know that's the cancer. You're good.

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Speaker 1: We never thought there could be a Tom Brady, but

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Speaker 1: we might be watching the next one right now. Yes

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Speaker 1: we will, and hopefully the Jaguars get there next Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars number one overall pick. Talk lots about that

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Speaker 1: in this program, and that is Jaguars Happy Hour. Ashton Sullivan,

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