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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Wednesday,
Speaker 1: January sixth, twenty twenty one, Season sixteen, Episode number ninety two.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the latest edition of The Break Life from
Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgage Studios. At the start, we are presented
Speaker 1: by Geico and we've got a show full of a
Speaker 1: lot of different topics. We're gonna hit a lot of
Speaker 1: different things today, everything from Jerod Jerry had to say
Speaker 1: in his press converse to what Mike McCarthy had to
Speaker 1: say in press conference, a couple players at press conferences. Um.
Speaker 1: And in the final segment, we're gonna get you guys
Speaker 1: ready for some playoff football. The Cowboys won't be involved,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna pick some of the games that will
Speaker 1: be happening this weekend. A lot of football happening this week.
Speaker 1: You will be six playoff games between Saturday and Sunday
Speaker 1: in the NFL. We're excited about it, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: you guys will be as well. Let's jump in and first,
Speaker 1: what are you gigging about, Nick, Because don't speak for
Speaker 1: me that I'm excited. You're not excited about the NFL playoffs? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, it'll be if it's on, it's on,
Speaker 1: but excited about it. Okay, my bad. I didn't mean
Speaker 1: all excited about the NFL playoffs. Yes, like videolutely two
Speaker 1: days of back to back to back football games, good teams,
Speaker 1: Sign me the hell out. I'm in. Yeah, Okay, I
Speaker 1: thought you were a bigger sports fan than that. Like
Speaker 1: I thought, yea, if sports is all you're excited about it,
Speaker 1: and so for playoff NFL football, I thought you'd be
Speaker 1: really excited about it. But I get a watch. I'll
Speaker 1: watch mainly because we're you're gonna force us to make
Speaker 1: picks here and then if we don't you don't have
Speaker 1: the right picks, then we'll be talking about it next week.
Speaker 1: So I'll watched, but I'm not gonna be like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, Seahawks and Rams. Okay, yeah, I'll be excited.
Speaker 1: I'm I've been excited since I saw it last Well,
Speaker 1: he he's he's an Arkansas fan, so he doesn't know
Speaker 1: much about that playoff world. Jesus never been in the playoffs. True, well,
Speaker 1: we haven't either at Texas. I haven't been saying much
Speaker 1: about Jesus. I hadn't even been in the ball game.
Speaker 1: You know, had a ball game scheduled until Oh, here
Speaker 1: we go with that. Nick's not happy about that ball game. Cancel. No, not,
Speaker 1: but you know you don't want you want to take
Speaker 1: a few minutes to sound off about that. Are you good?
Speaker 1: You're good? That's all right, all right, let's jump in.
Speaker 1: I can feel that, I can feel the attention here.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I hated that before they out of the game.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I know, I know that whole program, the
Speaker 1: whole thing, like cool Town program, Color Scott everything. Yeah, Lord,
Speaker 1: here we go. Let's ta a little Cowboys football. Um.
Speaker 1: I want to start first with with just kind of
Speaker 1: the big overviews. There were a couple of different guys,
Speaker 1: uh that had things to say about the season. Let's
Speaker 1: start with the biggest of the guys, Jerry Jones. Um.
Speaker 1: He said yesterday that obviously they fell far short of expectations,
Speaker 1: and he really missed. He said, I really missed it
Speaker 1: relative to how important it would be to stay with
Speaker 1: the same philosophy. That's that one's on me. I'll take
Speaker 1: that one. Basically, what he was saying was their decision
Speaker 1: to to do something different on defense philosophically, Um, he
Speaker 1: puts on himself. My question for you is how much
Speaker 1: blame do you put on Jerry versus McCarthy and Nolan
Speaker 1: with regards to them making the decision to change the
Speaker 1: defense philosophically going into this season. Let's start first with you. Nick. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't think, you know, that should be on Jerry.
Speaker 1: I mean, I really I don't because and I don't
Speaker 1: think Jerry should put it on himself. You know, is
Speaker 1: it his job to figure out what the philosophy of
Speaker 1: the defense is. I mean, I don't think it. I
Speaker 1: don't think And by the way, there's plenty of other
Speaker 1: stuff he can take credit for him. Yeah, that went wrong,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, but but that defense needed a change.
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought that was the whole point of
Speaker 1: making changes here, Mary Nelly. And it wasn't like it
Speaker 1: was great. It was it was okay, but it needed
Speaker 1: a change. And so it just it just this was
Speaker 1: a perfect storm. What's the opposite of a perfect storm?
Speaker 1: I mean, because that's what this was. It just didn't
Speaker 1: work out. It's just it was. It was not a
Speaker 1: good year for Mike Nolan to come in here and
Speaker 1: say we're gonna have this complex defense because the guys
Speaker 1: weren't ready to handle it and and couldn't handle it. Really,
Speaker 1: So I don't put it on Jared. I've just put
Speaker 1: it on the fact that the coach and the players
Speaker 1: mix with the combination of COVID was just bad. It's
Speaker 1: just a science experiment that just blew up. Amber No.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that there are a lot of
Speaker 1: fans that are currently like upset for different reasons at
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones right now, but I wouldn't blame that on
Speaker 1: him that specifically. I mean, you hire someone and you
Speaker 1: pay someone to do that job. That is not his job.
Speaker 1: That's the coach's job, and that's what they are being
Speaker 1: paid to do and figure out, and they should know
Speaker 1: what is right for the team and what to do.
Speaker 1: Especially in a crazy year like twenty twenty. We saw
Speaker 1: everything that was happening with COVID, how that affected football
Speaker 1: and the time being in person and all that, So
Speaker 1: why try to go in and try to change the philosophy. Instead,
Speaker 1: take that year and just try to limit the changes
Speaker 1: that you need to do, because that just creates more
Speaker 1: work in an environment that isn't necessarily fit for that
Speaker 1: kind of change at the moment. So I definitely don't
Speaker 1: put that on Jerry at all, Dave, Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: And I mean the buck stops with Jerry Jones, and
Speaker 1: so every time the Cowboys come up short, he definitely
Speaker 1: deserves his share of the criticism. And to his credit,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know that anybody handles criticism
Speaker 1: better than Jerry Jones. So, like, I'm not worried about it.
Speaker 1: But isn't this the classic case of Jerry Jones can't win?
Speaker 1: Like if Jerry Jones had forced Mike McCarthy and Mike
Speaker 1: Nolan to implement the defense that he wants, then it's
Speaker 1: crazy Jerry always tinker in with the team, can't get
Speaker 1: out of the way. But you know, now people are
Speaker 1: saying like, oh, he should have known better, he shouldn't
Speaker 1: have made him change, Like he doesn't get to win
Speaker 1: in this scenario because if he had forced them to
Speaker 1: do something different, then he would be the medalsome owner,
Speaker 1: and since he didn't, he's the absentee owner. Like, you
Speaker 1: can't have it both ways. So he hired football people
Speaker 1: to make football decisions and he got out of the way.
Speaker 1: That's what people want him to do. So no, I
Speaker 1: don't put that on him. So let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: So since he as he's talking about this, and him
Speaker 1: talking so much, this isn't the first time I've heard
Speaker 1: him talk about the fact that he really feels like
Speaker 1: the problem this year was trying to do too much
Speaker 1: on defense, trying to change too much too fast under
Speaker 1: these circumstances. Do you think that that is leading him
Speaker 1: in his mind to opt to go the route of
Speaker 1: keeping Mike Nolan because he thinks that maybe some of
Speaker 1: these decisions were a little bit or at least the
Speaker 1: performance was a little bit out of his control based
Speaker 1: upon the circumstances of COVID and not being able to
Speaker 1: really implement the things they want to implement. Let's start
Speaker 1: with you Amber. To me, the way I see it
Speaker 1: is that if we as viewers see it from afar,
Speaker 1: you as a coach that is up close and very
Speaker 1: close to the team and everything, and watch this film
Speaker 1: over and over again. You should notice things. So that's
Speaker 1: my problem. It's like when we get to see it
Speaker 1: and then they don't really see it, or maybe they
Speaker 1: do see it, but they don't really talk about it
Speaker 1: to the media. Oh, that's that's my problem. I don't
Speaker 1: think that. I just don't have the patience for it,
Speaker 1: and I keep talking about it. I'm like, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to be a patient person. And I know that Jerry
Speaker 1: he's a very patient guy. He's a he likes giving
Speaker 1: people the benefit of the doubt. And great on him
Speaker 1: because in some cases that really has worked out. But
Speaker 1: in some other cases, this is just the scenario where
Speaker 1: me personally, I wouldn't give it another year just because
Speaker 1: it just took way too long. There's no reason why
Speaker 1: we had to wait until the end of December to
Speaker 1: start seeing some improvement. Basic basic improvement as far as
Speaker 1: like will empower, like the fight to want to play
Speaker 1: football on the field and play decent football. So to me,
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I just don't have the
Speaker 1: patience for it, and they need to make that change,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if Jerry will will make that
Speaker 1: change or not. Dave, I think I can probably speak
Speaker 1: for all of us when I say, like nobody likes
Speaker 1: to like you don't want to put your hand in
Speaker 1: somebody else's pockets, and like nobody likes talking about whether
Speaker 1: or not somebody should lose their job. Having said that,
Speaker 1: I even though I just sort of defended Jerry and
Speaker 1: the you know, the decision to change the scheme, Like
Speaker 1: to Amber's point, I just think there's a certain standard
Speaker 1: that you have to hold an NFL team to regardless
Speaker 1: of the circumstances. And there's two teams in the playoffs
Speaker 1: right now with first year coaching staffs and all the
Speaker 1: changes that go on, you know, go into that. Cleveland
Speaker 1: and Washington both managed to put together playoff seasons despite
Speaker 1: all of that. And you know, compared to the offense,
Speaker 1: at least the Dallas defense, like they didn't face nearly
Speaker 1: as much hardship. Yeah, there was injury in the secondary.
Speaker 1: You didn't have Laton for a decent chunk of the season.
Speaker 1: He lost Gerald McCoy. That's stuff that happens in any
Speaker 1: NFL season. And you know, to allow the most points
Speaker 1: in franchise history, and you know, the Cowboys are a
Speaker 1: proud franchise, but they've had some bad seasons, like some
Speaker 1: really bad seasons. It doesn't sit well with me. And
Speaker 1: just the depth of the ineptitude is not some thing
Speaker 1: that I think any NFL team should ever have to experience.
Speaker 1: So you know, they picked it up at times over
Speaker 1: the second half of the season, but I don't think
Speaker 1: that's enough for me to have faith that it's worth
Speaker 1: given it another go. And to your point, Dave, I
Speaker 1: actually heard Jerry also mentioned on that conference call or
Speaker 1: on that that press conference um that that he also
Speaker 1: felt like this um that they weren't, that there were
Speaker 1: no He pointed out that there were teams that also
Speaker 1: had first year head coach coaches that were in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: So he's well aware of that, and that's something that
Speaker 1: that at least in that context, he was willing to
Speaker 1: throw out there publicly that there were other teams to
Speaker 1: handle this much better than the Cowboys did under the
Speaker 1: same circumstances. Nick, what are your thoughts there? I'll ask you, Derek,
Speaker 1: what day is it? Tuesday? Wednesday? Yeah, Wednesday? Well month
Speaker 1: is it January? See? Those are that's the way you
Speaker 1: answer a question that you know of the answer. But
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan, the question was asked twice to Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1: He had long answers, didn't even mention Mike Nolan by name,
Speaker 1: went around and round and round and round and around,
Speaker 1: I think if he was coming. But he got asked
Speaker 1: twice like wait a second, you didn't answer the first time,
Speaker 1: what about Mike Nolan? Well, you know, and I'm upset
Speaker 1: we're not in the playoffs and now that so that's
Speaker 1: a great point. Like that's the thing about Jerry and
Speaker 1: you and you guys have covered him for a long time.
Speaker 1: It's it's often not what he says. It's often what
Speaker 1: he chooses not to say, right, yeah, because he's the
Speaker 1: king of that emphatic like yes, oh when he wants
Speaker 1: like an emphatic point, he certainly does. Yeah. So you
Speaker 1: know all he often says, I'm not trying to be trite.
Speaker 1: Sometimes he is. Sometimes he is. And he didn't start
Speaker 1: that one without not trying to be tried, right, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, again, I'm not Dave said it best,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, we're not trying to, you know, say,
Speaker 1: oh this guy should be fine, right, but you shouldn't
Speaker 1: make a change. And I think it's I think it's
Speaker 1: there's a change needed, and I think it's just if
Speaker 1: Jerry really was gonna not make a change, I think
Speaker 1: he probably would have said it. I've been emphatic about
Speaker 1: saying that. I think so. But I also think that
Speaker 1: there's probably some more digesting that he asked to do
Speaker 1: with regards to looking at everything. And as Jerry does
Speaker 1: oftentimes get opinions from a lot of different people because
Speaker 1: he tends to do that, and he'll talk to a
Speaker 1: lot of different people, and I think that's when he'll
Speaker 1: have an opinion on what he really wants. Well, everybody
Speaker 1: thinks that Jerry's the guy that comes in and just
Speaker 1: tells the coach what to do. I mean, and maybe
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's happened before, and I'm sure it happens
Speaker 1: with other teams, and here we are in this first
Speaker 1: season and the last thing he wants to do is
Speaker 1: tell Mike McCarthy what to do on this. But sometimes
Speaker 1: you have to step in and I don't know, we'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. I mean, maybe he's not let go,
Speaker 1: maybe he's reassigned, but either way, I think you have
Speaker 1: to have some changes on this. The way the scheme is.
Speaker 1: On the question of Nolan DeMarcus Lawrence on his press conference,
Speaker 1: he was asked about Mike Nolan. His quote was, when
Speaker 1: you're playing with young guys, you have to take into
Speaker 1: consideration that some things that are easy for me, speaking
Speaker 1: of himself, won't be for the next person. He respects
Speaker 1: Nolan as the man because he looked as a man.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, because he looked himself in the mirror and
Speaker 1: he adjusted that. Being said, does this in your mind
Speaker 1: signal that players, at least some players think Nolan got
Speaker 1: better and should have been and that should be considered
Speaker 1: when determining his future. Day We'll start with you. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a nice thing for him to say that he
Speaker 1: looked in the mirror, but I like, I don't hear
Speaker 1: that and just think of it as a ringing endorsement.
Speaker 1: And you know, DeMarcus Lawrence is he's got a pretty
Speaker 1: strict philosophy. Going back to my point, you know, he
Speaker 1: he does not enjoy talking about other people's jobs. You
Speaker 1: try to get him to talk about like Zeke or
Speaker 1: Dack's contract and so like, I don't know if DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence is going to come right out and you know,
Speaker 1: put that out there, but just trying to read between
Speaker 1: the lines. That doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement that
Speaker 1: he's like this is my guy. I mean, and that's
Speaker 1: kind of that's kind of where I fall too. That's
Speaker 1: that's the point I was trying to make, is like, yes,
Speaker 1: the defense got better after like Halloween, like after that
Speaker 1: Washington game, they cleaned it up a little bit, the
Speaker 1: first Washington game they cleaned it up. But was it
Speaker 1: good enough, Like was it just this transformation that you're like, yes,
Speaker 1: we are headed in the right direction or did it
Speaker 1: go from historically awful to still pretty bad? You know,
Speaker 1: and is that enough to merit sticking with this? And
Speaker 1: I don't think it is? Okay, I think I think
Speaker 1: the schedule got easier. I don't think the team got
Speaker 1: necessarily better. I do think the secondary got a little
Speaker 1: better as they got their guys back, But you know,
Speaker 1: they didn't really beat anybody, you know good they they got,
Speaker 1: you know, they got those guys to turn the ball over,
Speaker 1: you know, Mullins and and you know what's the Brandon
Speaker 1: Allen from since I mean, you know, just quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: you don't consider to be that good. Kyler Murray didn't
Speaker 1: turn the ball over on them, and you know, I
Speaker 1: don't even think Matt Ryan did, even though they won
Speaker 1: that game. And you know that they played well against Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: but when Pittsburgh needed to score, they went and scored
Speaker 1: and won the game. So I just think that they
Speaker 1: got the schedule guy easier. I don't know if they
Speaker 1: got that better, that much better, just kind of the
Speaker 1: way the schedule win. Now, Amber, No, That's what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say as well. It's like, are we supposed
Speaker 1: to get excited about a defense that can beat or
Speaker 1: play well against the losing team like that? That's not exciting.
Speaker 1: I want to see them be competitive against better teams,
Speaker 1: against teams that are not losing teams. So basically, what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say like, absolutely not. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to be fooled by what we saw in the second
Speaker 1: half of the season towards the end of the season.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be blinded by those all those takeaways
Speaker 1: that they were able to get. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I will say this, and I mentioned it earlier, I
Speaker 1: did see some improvement as far as the will to play.
Speaker 1: You know, at the beginning of the season, we saw
Speaker 1: these guys with no drive, no desire, like there was
Speaker 1: like the passion missing out there. But then towards the
Speaker 1: second half, we started seeing that, And I don't know
Speaker 1: if that was maybe the effect of being criticized so
Speaker 1: much and you know, all over social media. I mean,
Speaker 1: these guys want to say they don't pay attention to
Speaker 1: the outside noise, but that's very hard to keep away.
Speaker 1: So I'm sure that did have an effect in the
Speaker 1: locker room and between these guys. So I don't know
Speaker 1: how much credit to give Mike Nolan as far as that,
Speaker 1: but just overall, I don't think that it was enough.
Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna take our first break. When we
Speaker 1: come back, We're don't talk about Dak Prescott. There were
Speaker 1: some very interesting things that Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: had to say about it, including Jerry saying who he
Speaker 1: thinks now has the leverage in these negotiations. We'll talk
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Speaker 1: now we want to flip the conversation to Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: because Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy but both had very
Speaker 1: interesting things to say about Dak. Let's start first with Jerry.
Speaker 1: He said on the topic of leverage in this negotiation,
Speaker 1: his quote was, I don't know how you could have
Speaker 1: anymore speaking of Dak's leverage in this negotiation, my question
Speaker 1: for you guys is how significant is it that Jerry
Speaker 1: says this publicly and what kind and how much leverage
Speaker 1: do you think the Cowboys still have. Let's start first, Nick, I,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think he's negotiating right there. I
Speaker 1: think that when he's talking to the media, I think
Speaker 1: he's that's a way of negotiating. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: find it hard to believe that if Jerry really really
Speaker 1: thought that that he would say that, So, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, and I don't know if I really agree
Speaker 1: with it. I don't know if there's leveridge there for
Speaker 1: either side and really not really. I mean, if Dak
Speaker 1: would have played throughout the season the way he was
Speaker 1: playing and all that, then yeah, but I mean, and
Speaker 1: then he gets hurt. So I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know if there's leverage really either either way. And the
Speaker 1: fact that he said it makes me think that it's
Speaker 1: probably still somewhere in the middle. I don't know, amber
Speaker 1: I don't really have I don't know what to make
Speaker 1: out of it. I don't know if that really makes
Speaker 1: me feel any different than I already did in the past.
Speaker 1: But it makes me wonder. I mean, and you guys
Speaker 1: know more about contract and all that, and I know
Speaker 1: that we still don't know how the whole cap thing
Speaker 1: is going to be affected this year, with the whole
Speaker 1: COVID thing and all the like money that the NFL
Speaker 1: lost this previous year. But would that if how much
Speaker 1: money they offer Dak or like, does that number change
Speaker 1: or does it stay the same. And that's the big
Speaker 1: problem is that's you mean, Dak is gonna want what
Speaker 1: he wants regardless of the salary cap. You know, Stephen
Speaker 1: Jones loves to say that's not the player's problem to
Speaker 1: figure out how to make it work, But that's what's
Speaker 1: gonna make it tricky. Well, that's the that's the biggest question. Then,
Speaker 1: I mean, where does that land? Because you keep talking
Speaker 1: or they keep talking about Okay, you have to keep
Speaker 1: in mind, yes, Dak Prescott is our main priority, but
Speaker 1: at the same time, you have to keep in mind
Speaker 1: that we need to have guys around him that can
Speaker 1: make it work as well, and for that you need
Speaker 1: to pay that talent as well. So it just makes
Speaker 1: me wonder. I mean, does that drive the conversation somewhere else,
Speaker 1: or they give him the franchise tag or I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just see it. Maybe this might be another year
Speaker 1: where maybe he does at a franchise tag based on like,
Speaker 1: you don't really know what's going to happen with the
Speaker 1: whole NFL income and cap salary. And again, that is
Speaker 1: not a conversation I can discuss much about because I
Speaker 1: don't know. But it's just there's a lot of unknown
Speaker 1: when it comes to finances around the NFL right now,
Speaker 1: So I don't know what's going to happen there, Dave.
Speaker 1: I can think of one way Dak Prescott could have
Speaker 1: more leverage, and if it was, it's if he wasn't
Speaker 1: using crutches to get around right now. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: just kind of the unfortunate reality of the situation. But
Speaker 1: I do think he's got a lot of leverage. And
Speaker 1: I also think that Amber makes a good point. But like, again,
Speaker 1: that's not Dak Prescott's problem, and we know that, yes,
Speaker 1: the salary cap is going to be impacted right now,
Speaker 1: but it's going to go up. The NFL is going
Speaker 1: to negotiate new TV deals for lots and lots and
Speaker 1: lots of money. And if I was Dak and his representation,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, yeah, that's that's tough. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: a cap crunch this year, But it won't be there
Speaker 1: for that long because it's gonna skyrocket when they signed
Speaker 1: those new deals next year or in the next you
Speaker 1: know what, next twelve eighteen months whenever that is. So
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if Dak has the
Speaker 1: maximum leverage, but I think he's got a lot of it.
Speaker 1: And me personally, I don't disagree with y'all that maybe
Speaker 1: this is a negotiating tactic. But to me, I think
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones recognizes that if he wants Dak Prescott to
Speaker 1: be his quarterback, he's gonna have to pay a premium
Speaker 1: for it, and there's just not really a way around that.
Speaker 1: And I thought it was interesting that maybe he doesn't
Speaker 1: mean every word of what he said, but to me,
Speaker 1: it says he recognizes that. And maybe I'm just being optimistic,
Speaker 1: but I hope it means it leads to them getting
Speaker 1: a deal done sooner rather than later. Yeah, I do
Speaker 1: kind of agree with that because and I a little
Speaker 1: disagree with you a bit nick on that because I
Speaker 1: think the leverage really is on Dak's side. Now, I
Speaker 1: don't I know Jerry and Steven, and I've been in
Speaker 1: negotiate with players. I've been in negotiating with them on
Speaker 1: business things. They're very shrewd negotiators, so they don't say
Speaker 1: anything that doesn't have that they're not going to use
Speaker 1: at some point. So this is all a part of
Speaker 1: their negotiations, like it all goes into it. But I
Speaker 1: will say this, I think time is on Dak's side.
Speaker 1: The longer this thing goes on, the more leveraged Dak has.
Speaker 1: And the reason why is because after this next season,
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys, we all agree. I think we all
Speaker 1: agree that there is a likely chance that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are gonna franchise tag him even before they get a
Speaker 1: deal done going into this offseason. If they're going to
Speaker 1: franchise him, then basically Dad could sit there and say, okay,
Speaker 1: so they're one of two options. You can either give
Speaker 1: me a long term deal of what I want, or
Speaker 1: I play on the franchise tag this year, which means
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make what thirty I think it's thirty eight
Speaker 1: thirty nine something like that this year, and then next
Speaker 1: year it's gonna be cost prohibitive for you to franchise
Speaker 1: me again, so I become a free agent and I
Speaker 1: can go in as long as there are other teams
Speaker 1: out there that are willing to pay him what he's
Speaker 1: asking for in a contract demand. He owns the leverage.
Speaker 1: He just plays this year at that thirty eight thirty nine,
Speaker 1: whatever that number is, it's the franchise tag this year,
Speaker 1: and then he's free right so to me. The more
Speaker 1: time goes on, the more leverage, leverage he has if
Speaker 1: the Cowboys don't want to risk losing him because he
Speaker 1: can determine what he does after this next year. I
Speaker 1: don't agree with that. Why because because what if he
Speaker 1: goes I mean, he went eight and eight the year before,
Speaker 1: he went one, two and three this year if he
Speaker 1: doesn't do if if he has another year where he's
Speaker 1: got his team in the playoffs, then and what if
Speaker 1: he gets hurt against he before he has never gotten hurt.
Speaker 1: Now he got hurt and he didn't play that well
Speaker 1: or his team didn't play that well beforehand. So the
Speaker 1: more time goes on, I think the price tag actually
Speaker 1: goes down. And I'll actually say something you guys will
Speaker 1: all disagree with. I think it is Dak's problem. You
Speaker 1: say it's not Dax's problem to figure it out. I
Speaker 1: think partially it is his problem. He's the leader of
Speaker 1: the team in the quarterback, so he can sit there
Speaker 1: and you can beat Deshaun Watson and get forty million
Speaker 1: a year, but who's around. So I think in this
Speaker 1: weird year in yes, the cat might go up work
Speaker 1: with the team. They'll work with you. You want to
Speaker 1: be the quarterback of the team, you know, you got
Speaker 1: more money in your pocket because you are the quarterback
Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboy. With that as a fact, nobody
Speaker 1: can argue that. But work with the team here and
Speaker 1: let them and let them figure out this thing as
Speaker 1: they get by this unique year. I think it is
Speaker 1: his problem. Let's go back to that winning argument. I
Speaker 1: have two words for you, Kirk Cousins. You don't have
Speaker 1: to be a winning quarterback to make a ton of
Speaker 1: money in the NFL. All you have to do is
Speaker 1: be a quarterback that has promised to be a quarterback
Speaker 1: that teams look at and say, is he better than
Speaker 1: what we got number one and number two? Is he
Speaker 1: good enough where if we if we can do certain
Speaker 1: things that we can, he can take us championship. And
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt that Dak Prescott is
Speaker 1: that kind of quarterback, regardless of whether they go eight
Speaker 1: and eighth this year or not. I've never been in
Speaker 1: a fight, but if I got hit in the face twice,
Speaker 1: I think the third time I'd have my hands up.
Speaker 1: So at some point the league's gonna have their hands
Speaker 1: up and they say these guys are not worth it.
Speaker 1: And the Cowboys are trying to do that right now. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The difference is the difference is you're talking from a
Speaker 1: standpoint of a frame chise, it's had a quarterback for
Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, go back, go back and be that
Speaker 1: franchise that you were back in two thousand and two,
Speaker 1: two thousand and three where you were sitting there without
Speaker 1: a quarterback and every Sunday it was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know how we're gonna win because our quarterbacks not better
Speaker 1: than their quarterback. You do that for ten years, like
Speaker 1: some of these franchises have, and and you're a lot
Speaker 1: like that. You're that starving man that takes that salting
Speaker 1: cracker and thinks it's a ritz. Like you take, you
Speaker 1: will take whatever you can get because you have been
Speaker 1: dealing with really really bad quarterback play, and you know
Speaker 1: you can't win with really really bad quarterback play. I
Speaker 1: would also like to throw in there. I feel like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of hand ringing about. You know, you
Speaker 1: pay Dak, you can't surround him with any talent. How
Speaker 1: the talent's all already here, Like I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the tackles got hurt this year, that's bad luck. But
Speaker 1: there are great players that are under contract. The running
Speaker 1: back is under contract. Two of the three receivers are
Speaker 1: under contract for the foreseeable, foreseeable future. You've got an
Speaker 1: all pro defensive end. Yeah, like the defense needs a
Speaker 1: lot of work. That's what you have draft picks for.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, when they were paying Dak
Speaker 1: four hundred thousand dollars a year, they weren't bringing in
Speaker 1: all this crazy talent. They were just resigning their own guys.
Speaker 1: Like you had the cheap quarterback play and you didn't
Speaker 1: do anything with that cap space while you could. So
Speaker 1: where where is all this concern about not adding talent?
Speaker 1: Like the cornerstone pieces that you need to be successful
Speaker 1: are here, and you use the draft to fill in
Speaker 1: the rest. But Dave, are you are you talking? Are
Speaker 1: you kind of talking out of both sides of your
Speaker 1: mouth a little bit there? Because if you're saying they
Speaker 1: already got the talent here, then that means they did
Speaker 1: take advantage of those years to bring all that talent in.
Speaker 1: They couldn't have built all the talent you're saying they
Speaker 1: have right now if they didn't take advantage of those
Speaker 1: years to get the talent, right. No, they will. They
Speaker 1: use their cap space, Well, they use some of their
Speaker 1: cap space to retain the guys that they had. But
Speaker 1: this is not a team if they have talent out.
Speaker 1: This is not a team that's been caps apped in
Speaker 1: the last five years though, Like they have had money
Speaker 1: that they could have spent to make the team better
Speaker 1: in other ways and they didn't do it. And and
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's an organizational philosophy. That's they don't
Speaker 1: want to they don't want to be big spenders in
Speaker 1: free agency, and that's okay, but to act like, you know,
Speaker 1: like people are like, oh my god, if we didn't
Speaker 1: pay dec we'd be able to get all these guys,
Speaker 1: Like they're not going to do that. They haven't in
Speaker 1: almost a decade. But you said they weren't cap strapped.
Speaker 1: That's because their quarterback was making less than I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm making about a million. Well, I mean, now he's
Speaker 1: gonna now he's gonna make I mean, but there are
Speaker 1: they made. He made thirty one million this year, and
Speaker 1: and they weren't, you know, they were they weren't a
Speaker 1: deep football team. They didn't have a lot of depth,
Speaker 1: and they got a lot of injuries and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, thirty one million. Now he's maybe
Speaker 1: he's gonna make forty. That's a nine million dollars difference.
Speaker 1: Do you know anyone that makes nine million? I know
Speaker 1: a few people on the other side of the building,
Speaker 1: not really know anybody on this show make the other
Speaker 1: side of the ball. Uh, nobody. See you're saying, you're
Speaker 1: saying you can solve one problem by getting rid of another.
Speaker 1: About nine million, I couldn't think. You know, well, you
Speaker 1: know following you. You know, we're gonna get to that
Speaker 1: in a second, because I actually do have a quote
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Speaker 1: final segment of the Break. We're gonna go full thirty
Speaker 1: minutes here with no commercial breaks. We got some things
Speaker 1: we still got to finish talking about. From the what
Speaker 1: that was nothing? I was cheering? Oh, from the press conferences.
Speaker 1: And then at the end of the show, we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Jason Garrett, who sounds like
Speaker 1: he might get an opportunity to be a head coach
Speaker 1: sooner rather than later. We're also gonna pick some of
Speaker 1: the NFL games that Nick's not excited about this weekend,
Speaker 1: but David and I are extremely excited about. We can't
Speaker 1: wait to see what all's gonna happen this weekend. And
Speaker 1: I'm just like, whatever, I don't care. Um, so let's
Speaker 1: let's get back into this whole thing on Dak Prescott stopping.
Speaker 1: Mike McCarty says his press confidence, he was very confident
Speaker 1: that Prescott's contract. I was me clapping. He mentioned Garrett,
Speaker 1: and I was clapping. Yeah, I can't see me. We're
Speaker 1: so far off the rails, guys, I get it now.
Speaker 1: We have thirty minutes to get Sorry, sorry, all yeah,
Speaker 1: we got it. We got way more time than normal.
Speaker 1: We got all the time in the world. All right,
Speaker 1: that's sure. Okay. So so Mike McCarty says he's very
Speaker 1: confident that Dak Prescott's contract will get settled. The question
Speaker 1: is simple for you, guys. Are you that confident? Amber,
Speaker 1: We'll start with you. I'm not super confident. I mean,
Speaker 1: based on the things that we just talked about, but
Speaker 1: I had a question that I wanted to ask you guys,
Speaker 1: if everything had happened the same exact way as far
Speaker 1: as injuries on the team, except that Dak Prescott had
Speaker 1: stayed healthy and still be the quarterback this past season,
Speaker 1: how different do you think the record would have been
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. I think they would have won the division,
Speaker 1: almost won. That's two wins. Yeah, and that's my point, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: so Philadelphia on the road, Okay, I mean the would
Speaker 1: have gotten one of the games against Washington at least,
Speaker 1: I think maybe both Just just look at the play
Speaker 1: where quarterback fail the play failed them Philadelphia on the
Speaker 1: road and Pittsburgh in New York to finish the season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that wasn't a good day for any wasn't I think
Speaker 1: he started playing like Dak at the end of like
Speaker 1: running and doing those kind of things. But he Yeah,
Speaker 1: that wasn't a good nay struggling. Yeah, three or four
Speaker 1: more wins? So I can think of four games. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So I guess my question leads to Okay, and don't
Speaker 1: get me wrong, like I absolutely love Dak Prescott and
Speaker 1: I think he's trending upwards despite the injury. I think
Speaker 1: that he's a really good quarterback or getting there. But
Speaker 1: do they really need to pay someone like Dak or
Speaker 1: can they if they get all these other guys help
Speaker 1: you fix their defensive issues, can they just get by
Speaker 1: or make it? You know, not really miss much with that.
Speaker 1: And I know Dave is gonna is hating this question already,
Speaker 1: but it's the truth. I mean, you gotta look at
Speaker 1: it that way as well. Go look at the playoffs,
Speaker 1: look at the quarterbacks that are in the playoffs, and
Speaker 1: then look at the quarterbacks that are in the playoffs
Speaker 1: by next weekend, and then you answer that question, can
Speaker 1: you get by with just a average to less than
Speaker 1: average quarterback? I don't think you can. If you're if
Speaker 1: you're if your goals are to be a playoff contender
Speaker 1: or Super Bowl contender, you just look at the playoffs.
Speaker 1: You go back to look at the last years of playoffs,
Speaker 1: and you tell me how many times you see a
Speaker 1: team with that kind of quarterback deep in the playoffs
Speaker 1: unless you've got a transcendent defense. And we definitely don't
Speaker 1: have a transcendent defense unless you're looking at it from
Speaker 1: the other side, We're far from that, right that goes Actually,
Speaker 1: that kind of ties into the point that I was
Speaker 1: trying to make in the previous segment, and it's it's
Speaker 1: very fair. I mean, the Cowboys have spent money to
Speaker 1: keep their own players here. But again, to win the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, you either need a transcendent quarterback or you
Speaker 1: need a roster that has no deficiencies whatsoever. And like
Speaker 1: you know, a great coach. San Francisco last year is
Speaker 1: a perfect example. Jimmy G's not this amazing, We're great
Speaker 1: everywhere else. How did they build that team? They did
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. They had top five draft picks,
Speaker 1: They spent big money in free agency to bring in
Speaker 1: guys like Kwan Alexander and Richard Sherman. And have the
Speaker 1: Cowboys ever been that team? Do they want to be
Speaker 1: that team? So? And for that matter, people love to
Speaker 1: hey Jerry Jones for being this bad general manager who
Speaker 1: doesn't evaluate talent the right way. And so, what do
Speaker 1: you think is more realistic that Dak grows into being
Speaker 1: a quarterback that can carry you there or that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys hit on every single note that you have to
Speaker 1: hit to have a great team without a great quarterback.
Speaker 1: I'll take my chances with the great quarterback, and I
Speaker 1: legitimately think the sixth best in the league right now.
Speaker 1: And two or three of the guys above him are
Speaker 1: closer to the end of their career. So I'm taking
Speaker 1: my chances with Dak Prescott every time. I agree with
Speaker 1: your premise. Dave, I don't know if I agree with
Speaker 1: how it played out with San Francisco, though. I think
Speaker 1: that San Francisco did what they did last year primarily
Speaker 1: on the strength of their front seven, and even more
Speaker 1: primarily on the strength of their front four, And to me,
Speaker 1: that was all about the bad, the idea that they
Speaker 1: were bad for so long that they were able to
Speaker 1: stockpile some really, really great first round talent that was
Speaker 1: along that front that gave teams fits last year, and
Speaker 1: you're seeing the difference this year. They lost a ton
Speaker 1: of those guys this year, either an injury order free agency,
Speaker 1: and you see that team is completely different this year
Speaker 1: than they were last year. And so that that goes
Speaker 1: back to my original point though that I was getting
Speaker 1: to when Ambery asked the question, you have to have
Speaker 1: a defense that's just so much better, and then even
Speaker 1: that defense, as good as it was last year, still
Speaker 1: wasn't good enough to put it on Mahomes, who was
Speaker 1: a better quarterback, a transcendent quarterback, in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to have either a transcendent defense,
Speaker 1: I'm talking a really really great defense, or you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to have a quarterback that can outscore the opponent.
Speaker 1: And I don't think there's an in between. I really don't.
Speaker 1: You look at the history of the of the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: There's not really an in between. No, No, the in
Speaker 1: between is team that sits there at eight and eight,
Speaker 1: seven and nine. Here you go. That's what this team is.
Speaker 1: Because I'll creep up to maybe a thirteen and three
Speaker 1: season every once a while, but they don't get to
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. I don't want to go down this road.
Speaker 1: But the problem is it's just that I just don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think this team is close to having that
Speaker 1: bass defense at all. And they just they're just bad. Really,
Speaker 1: they don't have then don't have another part yet, or
Speaker 1: they the second part and they don't have the first part.
Speaker 1: They're either bad or they're asked, but they're not the same.
Speaker 1: They're not together. I don't know, didn't mean to go there,
Speaker 1: but I feel a column coming. No, no, no, I
Speaker 1: feel a bleep out on the on demand version. No,
Speaker 1: I just feel like they're not. They're not a badass defense.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if that Dak is that elite
Speaker 1: quarterback that's gonna just carry this team. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's good enough for that. And I don't it's a
Speaker 1: shot against Dak. I don't think he's good enough to
Speaker 1: lug this this bad team around. But do you know,
Speaker 1: but do you think that that's also because he hasn't
Speaker 1: gotten to that point yet, Because I believe that if
Speaker 1: you look at how his trajectory has been. Again I
Speaker 1: say this all the time and now starting to sound
Speaker 1: almost like a c A cliche. Yeah, but it is
Speaker 1: very Russell Wilson life. But he is. So are you
Speaker 1: looking at are you looking at his stats? Are you
Speaker 1: looking at his wins? I'm looking at his play, I'm
Speaker 1: looking at how he plays. I'm looking at this year,
Speaker 1: the games he played this year. That offense was on
Speaker 1: a their trajectory was on a level where they were
Speaker 1: heading toward like one of the best offenses in the league.
Speaker 1: And that's in the league with those other quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: we're talking about. The difference was they couldn't hold on
Speaker 1: to the freaking ball and that was not on deck.
Speaker 1: That was on a bunch of other guys who couldn't
Speaker 1: hold onto the ball. Here's a stat that helps Dak.
Speaker 1: Um he you know, I think when he started five games, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dalton started nine games. Dalton played three playoff teams, Um,
Speaker 1: and so did and so did Dak. You know that
Speaker 1: they lost to those games. But I mean, and I
Speaker 1: actually can't think of the third playoff Oh, I can't
Speaker 1: think of the third playoff team that Dalton played. But
Speaker 1: were you thinking about Dealers Baltimore, Baltimore, Washington and Baltimore.
Speaker 1: That's what it was to Washington Baltimore and Dad played
Speaker 1: the Browns, the Rams and the Seahawks and a lot
Speaker 1: more competitive games over there. Anyways, that just kind of
Speaker 1: it goes to show that the yeah they were one
Speaker 1: and four, sorry my bad, two and three, but they
Speaker 1: played much better teams and they were in the games
Speaker 1: a little bit. But those games they lost, was it
Speaker 1: Dak's fault. I don't think Dak was the primary blame
Speaker 1: as to why they lost those games. I think the
Speaker 1: defense felled them and I think they turned the ball
Speaker 1: over too much, and that was not on Dak, in
Speaker 1: my opinion, goes back to that interfseason playoff game. Against
Speaker 1: the Packers. You know, he brought him back, but he
Speaker 1: also there's a reason why they were in hand twenty
Speaker 1: four points. You know, there's reason why Cleveland was up.
Speaker 1: It's not just everybody else, not just the defense. There's
Speaker 1: a reason why it was not the turnover. So well,
Speaker 1: some of it's on Dak. I mean you have to
Speaker 1: put some of it on Dak. You have to, like
Speaker 1: they were. They didn't just lose every game for all
Speaker 1: everybody else like that. Dak could play a little bit
Speaker 1: better in those games and his stats were great, But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it wasn't just Dak. Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 1: I'm saying though, if you look at Dak and how
Speaker 1: he played this year, I think in those games that
Speaker 1: he lost where he started. I don't think the primary
Speaker 1: reason they lost was him. I think he's way down
Speaker 1: the pecking list. If you want to talk about it.
Speaker 1: If this went right, that game changes, If this went right,
Speaker 1: that game changes, I think Dak's way down that list.
Speaker 1: I think you can get to a lot of other
Speaker 1: players before you can get to Dak on that one.
Speaker 1: So my point is, I just think his trajectory is
Speaker 1: pointing up, and I think if you keep rolling with
Speaker 1: him within another year or two, I do think this
Speaker 1: offense can be completely and totally. Dak will be the
Speaker 1: best thing that you do. They were on the road
Speaker 1: to that this year. I think Dak by next year,
Speaker 1: the year after that, I think Dak will be the
Speaker 1: very best thing this offense does, maybe the best thing
Speaker 1: this team does. That's not always Also, what's uh, what's
Speaker 1: the what's what's the alternative? What's the alternative? What are
Speaker 1: you doing if you don't want Dack? You want to
Speaker 1: start over and build that defense? And Nick has been
Speaker 1: talking about, now you take one of those guys that
Speaker 1: are that are going to be available from you know, Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm still still was left wanting to see Garret Gilbert.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it was my mind. I'm gonna lose it,
Speaker 1: we jep. I mean, if you want to draft the guy,
Speaker 1: that's if you want to If you want to draft
Speaker 1: the guy, that's fine, that's totally fine. I Mean the
Speaker 1: track record over the last like six years is not
Speaker 1: great for every Pat Mahomes and Josh Allen. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of Blake Bortles, Jared Goff, Carson
Speaker 1: wentz Uh, you know a lot of that. So in
Speaker 1: a sure thing, by any stretch of the imagination, are
Speaker 1: you saying you don't think that Dak is capable of
Speaker 1: taking a team to the super Bowl, Because if you've
Speaker 1: got a quarterback in the building that you think is
Speaker 1: capable of taking a team to the super Bowl, you
Speaker 1: definitely aren't going back to the well. If you got
Speaker 1: a guy that you think is ascending in the direction
Speaker 1: where he will be able to be able to take
Speaker 1: a team to the super Bowl, again, you're not going
Speaker 1: back to the well. You're sticking with what you got.
Speaker 1: Are you saying you don't think that that's the case
Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott M I mean not really not the
Speaker 1: talent that that there is. I don't think he's No,
Speaker 1: I don't. I haven't seen it yet. I mean, and
Speaker 1: of course he because I haven't made to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I get it, and they've been they've been close. But
Speaker 1: I'm just saying the talent around him. I think he
Speaker 1: does need the talent, And the problem is is that
Speaker 1: you're going to pay him forty billion a year. It's
Speaker 1: hard to get those guys around him. So it's okay, though,
Speaker 1: I mean, like there's there's only there's twenty seven, twenty
Speaker 1: eight teams that aren't good enough to go to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. You know, you just said he would be
Speaker 1: the best thing they do. Romo was the best thing
Speaker 1: the Cowboys did. It wasn't good enough. Stafford is the
Speaker 1: best thing the Lions have had for years. It wasn't
Speaker 1: good enough. Some teams, it's just not good enough. But
Speaker 1: that's okay. That doesn't mean you can't catch lightning in
Speaker 1: the bottle, get to the playoffs, get hot, get rolling,
Speaker 1: get in there. The best team doesn't always go to
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. So I mean, I think I think
Speaker 1: that's think they can compete. I mean, let me just
Speaker 1: say this. I think he's good enough to get this
Speaker 1: team to compete past the first round of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: You get to that point, anything that's well, then that's
Speaker 1: that's one question, right, that's my question, because honestly, I
Speaker 1: think if you feel like he is that caliber quarterback,
Speaker 1: you don't go back to the way. You don't you
Speaker 1: don't go back to the well hoping that by the way,
Speaker 1: unless you're getting the top pick in the draft. It
Speaker 1: and that's even somewhat of a of a of a gamble,
Speaker 1: of course, but everybody else like you are really taking
Speaker 1: a fifty fifty proposition on this thing. Why would you
Speaker 1: go back to the well when you find you already
Speaker 1: got a guy who can get you at least at
Speaker 1: that point. I'm not going back to the well to
Speaker 1: answer her question, I'm not going back to the well.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sign Dack and we're gonna try to make
Speaker 1: this thing work. It's gonna be tough. It's gonna be tough.
Speaker 1: But that's that's it's tough for all those teams. See
Speaker 1: what happens when you know, I mean, it's it's a
Speaker 1: tough league. Yeah, that's why go back and look at
Speaker 1: what my homes did. My homes gave it. You know,
Speaker 1: he got a it's a friendly deal, even though it's
Speaker 1: fifty million years friendly, it's a friendly deal. He worked
Speaker 1: with them a little bit. He worked with them. That's
Speaker 1: the difference. DA's already looking at the next contract, you know,
Speaker 1: And I think that's where some of the some of
Speaker 1: the issues have been. So let me complicate this a
Speaker 1: little bit more, um and ask you guys from the
Speaker 1: standpoint of Mike McCartney said that Dak's ankle rehab is
Speaker 1: right on course. My question for you, guys, is how
Speaker 1: much are you concerned about Dak's return from this brutal
Speaker 1: injury after seeing the decline of Carson Wentz, who before
Speaker 1: his injury, Carson Wentz was, in my opinion, on his
Speaker 1: way to being one of the very best quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: the league. He has not played to that level since
Speaker 1: that injury, and I don't know if the injury is
Speaker 1: the reason why, but he certainly hasn't gotten back to
Speaker 1: that level. Does that give you any reason to be
Speaker 1: concerned with Dak coming off this type of horrific injury.
Speaker 1: Let's start with you, Dave. I'm very, very concerned, and
Speaker 1: you know, I feel guilty saying that because obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm the Dak Homer fan club president, and that's fine.
Speaker 1: But people people lie about injuries. They have every reason too.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't you don't want to admit that
Speaker 1: type of stuff, And you know they spent the whole
Speaker 1: summer saying, lyle with reason, that type of stuff happens
Speaker 1: all the time. So I cannot take it at face
Speaker 1: value that everything's hunky dory. I need I need proof,
Speaker 1: and like I'm probably not gonna get it. But the
Speaker 1: Cowboys need to do everything in their power to make
Speaker 1: sure that they feel confident about it. You know, he's what,
Speaker 1: he's almost three months removed from surgery, so you know,
Speaker 1: I would imagine you can start checking in on that,
Speaker 1: seeing how it's responding, seeing if there's any damage that
Speaker 1: you missed or that isn't healing properly. But that's between
Speaker 1: now and like March, I really hope that they can
Speaker 1: get a handle on how they feel about it, regardless
Speaker 1: of whether they talk about it publicly, because you know,
Speaker 1: going back to Nick's point, and so I guess none
Speaker 1: of us want to go back to the well, but
Speaker 1: I think they need to have if they feel good
Speaker 1: about it, they need to have Dak signed long term
Speaker 1: before the draft because you never know next time you're
Speaker 1: going to be in the top ten, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of good quarterbacks in this draft class, so they
Speaker 1: need to know. They got to know how they feel
Speaker 1: about it, and if they feel good, they need to
Speaker 1: get him signed. And if they feel bad, then they
Speaker 1: can start talking about alternative options. But that's priority number one,
Speaker 1: is making sure that they're confident about his foot. Nick, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what was the question, are you concerned? How sir, are
Speaker 1: you about about the injury and looking at what happened.
Speaker 1: That's a great point with what Dave just made about
Speaker 1: the draft. I mean, and that's why maybe Deck doesn't
Speaker 1: have the leverage that you would think. You know, but
Speaker 1: but it just all depends. Leverage is all how you
Speaker 1: how you view it. And also like if he's okay
Speaker 1: saying you know what if I don't play here, I
Speaker 1: play in Jacksonville. And three, if he's okay, that's like
Speaker 1: if if his whole thing is am I gonna get
Speaker 1: paid by somebody? Then he has a ton of leverage.
Speaker 1: You're right, absolutely right about that. And that's a tricky
Speaker 1: that's another conversation too, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: but second contracts are huge for all NFL players to
Speaker 1: get it. Um, you know, fans don't want to see that.
Speaker 1: They want a little bit more loyalty there. That's just
Speaker 1: the way it is. That's reality that uh for that.
Speaker 1: But I think they're gonna make it work. Um. Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz is a different thing. I think right now it's
Speaker 1: it's between the ears with him. I don't know that
Speaker 1: I don't know, But the question would be did the
Speaker 1: injury contribute to what's happening between the well the city
Speaker 1: also doesn't help him. I mean, that's a tough city
Speaker 1: to play and I think it's just a lot of
Speaker 1: things involved there. They view him as the savior. He
Speaker 1: certainly isn't. They had a lot of issues. I think
Speaker 1: he's I think he's got good football in front of him.
Speaker 1: Though he's a good player. I know he's not playing
Speaker 1: well and I'm not going to compare him to Dak
Speaker 1: because he doesn't play as well as Dak and all that,
Speaker 1: but like I in the fourth quarter when he's when
Speaker 1: they're driving, like, I don't like him with the ball, honestly,
Speaker 1: I've just seen it too many times to feel like
Speaker 1: So I think he'll I think he'll go to another team,
Speaker 1: get a fresh start, and I think he'll be a
Speaker 1: good player. I actually interested to see if if the
Speaker 1: rumors are true that that Indianapolis would want him where
Speaker 1: he's back with Frank Reich, who was his offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: when that year when he was in Philadelphia, and they're
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, they got Philip Rivers right now,
Speaker 1: who's older. It'd be a nice little transition to just
Speaker 1: put Wins right in there. Let me tell you the
Speaker 1: difference between Indianapolis and Philly if you need, Oh, there's
Speaker 1: a lot when we go to the buses. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: remember our first year in nineteen ninety nine we played Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: We're there and we got about six or seven people
Speaker 1: out in the parking lot giving us that brutal thumbs
Speaker 1: down like boom, Yeah. Philly. A couple of weeks later, eggs, birds, moons.
Speaker 1: They threw birds at us. They oh that kind of bird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, different Philadelphia Indianapolis A little bit different. Sorry, yeah,
Speaker 1: it is a little bit different, all right, Amber, What
Speaker 1: do you think? Well, As someone that absolutely freaks out
Speaker 1: about any little injury, for some reason, I don't feel
Speaker 1: ass concerned about his recovery. I think that he's going
Speaker 1: to recover well and be able to play well. But
Speaker 1: my question, or my worry would be his running game.
Speaker 1: Is he gonna be able to run? And that's one
Speaker 1: of the things that adds value to his game is
Speaker 1: his ability to use his legs. And I don't mean
Speaker 1: to sound like a broken record because I mentioned the
Speaker 1: red zone a lot, and that is still a big
Speaker 1: area of concern for me and the Cowboys. Inability or
Speaker 1: inability to find some kind of success in the red zone,
Speaker 1: And that's my biggest question. I mean, Dad has been
Speaker 1: able to be a weapon, a big weapon in the
Speaker 1: red zone, and some of the times that they've been
Speaker 1: able to get in there in the end zone has
Speaker 1: been because of Dak's ability to use his legs and
Speaker 1: run in there. So that would be the area that
Speaker 1: concerns me, and that would be in the back of
Speaker 1: my head. Can he still run? Can the Cowboys still
Speaker 1: utilize that side of the game, because I think that
Speaker 1: one of his biggest values is in his legs and
Speaker 1: his ability to run, So that would be the area
Speaker 1: of concern. But as far as recovery overall and him
Speaker 1: still being in the pocket and being able to throw
Speaker 1: the ball, well, I don't think that's going to be
Speaker 1: an issue. Yeah, I think that's a great point, Amber,
Speaker 1: And I actually I actually think of it more. Will
Speaker 1: the Cowboys try to limit him from running more than
Speaker 1: him trying to stop himself or not being able to run.
Speaker 1: We heard Jerry talk several times after the injury about
Speaker 1: just how much danger you put a quarter back in
Speaker 1: when you when you use him in that way. I
Speaker 1: really do wonder if they're gonna try to take a
Speaker 1: step back with how much they decide to use him.
Speaker 1: And I think that is such a critical part of
Speaker 1: his game. If you take it away from his game,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's the same quarterbacks. I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to keep it in while trying to be
Speaker 1: smart with him and maybe teaching him how to slide
Speaker 1: a little bit more and know when the ride's over,
Speaker 1: but rather than taking some of the hits that he takes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt though the team is better when he
Speaker 1: runs the ball down and and I think she's right.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think the red zone that's the biggest difference.
Speaker 1: I mean, Dalton did okay at times. I mean he
Speaker 1: was he was what you thought he would be come
Speaker 1: in there. If he had the offensive tackles, I think
Speaker 1: they would have been better, Zack Martin, he would have
Speaker 1: been a little bit better. But I think during the
Speaker 1: red zone issues, I mean, that's where Dack's value is
Speaker 1: really enhanced. So um, I hope he's still that guy
Speaker 1: that still will will run and not even think about it.
Speaker 1: And I think he will be. I think he'll be thinking,
Speaker 1: all right, let's let's go. We already we already know
Speaker 1: he's good. Sorry. I mean he's got a quarterback, he's
Speaker 1: got a quarterback coach that he spends the off season with.
Speaker 1: Just hire a base running coach while you're at it,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson runs all the freaking time, and he never
Speaker 1: gets hurt because he never gets hit, because he slides
Speaker 1: like a baseball player, because he played baseball. So you
Speaker 1: can learn that stuff. Just go spend you know, once
Speaker 1: you're able to move around, go spend the off season
Speaker 1: with the base running coach. You're gonna say something else.
Speaker 1: He slides like a baseball player. I thought it was.
Speaker 1: I know, that's what I say. I'm not criticized, you know,
Speaker 1: I think you should. If I'm like the Jason Committee,
Speaker 1: that that's the first thing that's going out. It's the
Speaker 1: slide out. All right, Let's let's go up to the NFL.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Jason Garrett. Reports are that Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: that the Chargers have requested an interview with Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: for their Hit Open Hit head coaching job. My question
Speaker 1: for you guys is, after all the years you guys
Speaker 1: spent covering Jason Garrett, do you think Jason will be
Speaker 1: a successful head coach Head coach somewhere else. Stop it, Nick,
Speaker 1: We'll start reolutely. Absolutely. I just wanted to use his
Speaker 1: term been good. You know, he's he's Jason Garrett is
Speaker 1: a good is a good football coach, and he has
Speaker 1: been for a long time. And I think that he
Speaker 1: will do a good job there. I think he'll have
Speaker 1: a quarterback if that's if that's the route for them, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think that would be good. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: is he going to excite the fan base? No, But
Speaker 1: do they have fans? Yes, they have fans. I mean
Speaker 1: not a lie, not a ton not. I mean, they
Speaker 1: got some fans, all right. They don't own their city.
Speaker 1: They pissed off another city. I'm just saying that they
Speaker 1: don't own the state. There's not a ton to charge
Speaker 1: your fans in whatever, but there's some doesn't matter. He's
Speaker 1: an efficient, prepared coach. They'll do a good job with
Speaker 1: a young quarterback. He's done well with Romo when he
Speaker 1: was offensive coordinating Romo's early years. He did well with
Speaker 1: Dak I think you could say he did well with
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, but I mean there's injuries and stuff there
Speaker 1: in different issues. I think he'll do well with the quarterback.
Speaker 1: If he's there, I think it'd be a good move,
Speaker 1: all right, Amber, you know what, I think that he
Speaker 1: will be able to find some kind of different success. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you got to have a good players and all that,
Speaker 1: but just as a head coach overall, I think that
Speaker 1: him becoming an offensive an offensive coordinator over there in
Speaker 1: New York kind of helped him take a step back
Speaker 1: and kind of self review and evaluate himself. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: was very impressed with what he did in that first
Speaker 1: encounter with the Cowboys this year, the first game we
Speaker 1: played against them. It impressed me because he did some
Speaker 1: things that were unusual that we didn't see the cow
Speaker 1: and I know his role was different, but at the
Speaker 1: same time, there were things that were creative. There were
Speaker 1: plays that were not something that you would predict from
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett. So I feel that he has been able
Speaker 1: to get out of his comfort zone a little bit
Speaker 1: and just kind of be more with up to date,
Speaker 1: up the time, like what's happening currently now in the NFL.
Speaker 1: So I think that that helped him take a step forward.
Speaker 1: And if he does get a head coach job, I
Speaker 1: believe that he would do better than what he's done
Speaker 1: here in the past, all right, Dave, I do think
Speaker 1: I mean Jason Garrett is He's not awful obviously. I
Speaker 1: mean he was here for a decade, they made the
Speaker 1: playoffs regularly, and they were always relevant, Like they only
Speaker 1: had one legitimately awful season during the time that he
Speaker 1: was here. But I just I think the Chargers could
Speaker 1: do better in terms of making an inspired hire, especially
Speaker 1: because if I was going to hire Jason Garrett, I
Speaker 1: would probably I would do it if I was a
Speaker 1: team that needed a total culture revamp, like doesn't know
Speaker 1: how to win, doesn't know how to be successful, doesn't
Speaker 1: know how to be professional, like you know, the Browns
Speaker 1: before they got Baker, when they were like one in
Speaker 1: thirty five, I would hire Jason Garrett to turn a
Speaker 1: franchise like that around. I don't think the Chargers need that,
Speaker 1: like they were twelve and four or two years ago.
Speaker 1: They've got really good veteran players on that team. Joey Bosa.
Speaker 1: I don't know what Melvin Ingram's contract status is, but
Speaker 1: he's a hell of a player. Derwin James Keenan Allen,
Speaker 1: and then I mean Justin Herbert is probably gonna win.
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. He's a badass. I and I
Speaker 1: just I don't know. Jason Garrett would bum me out
Speaker 1: if I was a Chargers fan because he's just gonna
Speaker 1: come in and like he's an old school guy. You're
Speaker 1: probably not gonna get the bells and whistles that you
Speaker 1: want for a hot shot, young quarterback. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: hire a young, energetic guy who can be the Sean
Speaker 1: Payton to my Drew Brees for the next fifteen years.
Speaker 1: Like that's ideally who I would try to hire. So
Speaker 1: I think, I mean sure, Kellen Moore is a great
Speaker 1: example of what I'm talking about. It it's not gonna
Speaker 1: be him, But so you know, Jason Garrett will maybe
Speaker 1: get another shot in the NFL, and I think he
Speaker 1: could do well with it. But that would bump me
Speaker 1: out if I was a Chargers fan, to be honest, Yeah,
Speaker 1: maxic out with you on that, Dave. I actually was
Speaker 1: thinking like a franchise like Detroit right now, I think
Speaker 1: would be the kind If I were Detroit, I would
Speaker 1: be looking at somebody like Jason Garrett, somebody I wanted
Speaker 1: to bring in. I got a team that doesn't really
Speaker 1: know who they are right now. What they're doing. You know,
Speaker 1: their quarterback probably is going to be gone, a quarterback
Speaker 1: that's been there forever, So you kind of have to
Speaker 1: rebuild things. And I think that's where Jason would be
Speaker 1: at his best, in a situation where you kind of
Speaker 1: take rubbles and you kind of just start creating this
Speaker 1: base and this building block. Now, he may not ever
Speaker 1: get you to the Promised Land, but he can at
Speaker 1: least establish something for you that then you're ready to
Speaker 1: go get another coach that maybe can't get you there.
Speaker 1: And by the way, there's still a possibility that he
Speaker 1: actually may end up being a kind of coach that
Speaker 1: could get you to the Promised Land. He just couldn't
Speaker 1: do it here. I think he's a good enough coach
Speaker 1: where if the pieces all the line, I do think
Speaker 1: he could possibly do it. But I agree with you, Dave.
Speaker 1: I think it's a different kind of situation where I
Speaker 1: think he flourishes best. All right, real quick, before the
Speaker 1: end of the show, I got a round table, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna pick all the games that are gonna happen
Speaker 1: this weekend. There are six of them. Nick's not excited,
Speaker 1: Amber's not excited, But me and Dave we are over
Speaker 1: the moon excited, So let's go. We're gonna pick Also, okay,
Speaker 1: my bad, you're neutral. Nick's on the other side and
Speaker 1: me and Dave are sitting over here just excited. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna pick off that watch more games than her
Speaker 1: this weekend. I'm I'm betting so. But that's also why
Speaker 1: I thought. That's also why I was saying, you were excited,
Speaker 1: but you're not excited. So hey, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: things that are on my TV I don't get excited about,
Speaker 1: but they're on the TV. So that's what it's what happens.
Speaker 1: That's also you got like a wife. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: you just will watch it and it'll be it'll be good.
Speaker 1: Let's go. Let's let's all right, here we go. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go around. We don't have to give scores as
Speaker 1: we do with the Cowboy game. We're just gonna pick winners.
Speaker 1: Indianapolis versus Buffalo. Let's start with Nick, Buffalo, Buffalo, Amber Buffalo.
Speaker 1: All right, Dave, I'll be supremely disappointed in Buffalo if
Speaker 1: they don't make the AFC title game. So I think
Speaker 1: they kicked the Colts butts honestly, yep, I agree with
Speaker 1: all you guys, Buffalo wins. That's gonna be a fun one.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a fun one to watch. It will
Speaker 1: because Indianapolis is, in my my opinion, one of the
Speaker 1: most underrated teams that are in the playoffs. So I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be interesting. It'll be a physical football,
Speaker 1: it absolutely. Goldson sales that there's two teams that really hit,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it, no doubt about it. All right,
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams versus Seattle Seahawks. Nick don't know the
Speaker 1: status of the quarterback. It sounds like he's not playing
Speaker 1: this weekend from what I heard last David, you heard
Speaker 1: about that, then I'm gonna I'm gonna go Rust then,
Speaker 1: because not off the top of my head, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: you'll be a tough game. I was thinking, maybe go
Speaker 1: with that upset. I'll go with Russ. I mean rusted,
Speaker 1: I say at home, but whatever, I mean, I've been there.
Speaker 1: It's very it's not really home. But yeah, but I'll
Speaker 1: go with Russ. Okay, Amber Seahawks can't pick against Russell
Speaker 1: unless they're playing against the Cowboys. So I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: to Seattle, Dabe, you know what, Like I joke about
Speaker 1: a lot how Nick kates Matt Stafford, And that's how
Speaker 1: I feel about Jared Goff. Like I don't care that
Speaker 1: he's been to a Super Bowl. I don't like whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's that good and he might not
Speaker 1: even play, so I can't. Yeah, I'm not picking against Seattle.
Speaker 1: You know the interesting thing here, I actually had a
Speaker 1: lot of thought about this game because I think this
Speaker 1: is the kind of game with the coach that they have.
Speaker 1: I actually think he could probably take a backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: Because again, I don't think I agree with you, Dave.
Speaker 1: I'm not a big golf fan, like I think golf is. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's great. I think this year they've
Speaker 1: done a lot of what they've done defensively, and that
Speaker 1: defense is still going to be in tact. So it
Speaker 1: I really went back and forth on this, but at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, I still have to go
Speaker 1: back and say, he's still got to go and beat
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, and I don't think they'd beat Russell Wilson.
Speaker 1: So I think Seattle gets to win here, all right,
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay versus Washington, Nick Washington, no doubt, Okay, are
Speaker 1: you being serious, that's serious. I think I think the
Speaker 1: teams that give him Tom Brady the problems are the
Speaker 1: ones that really get up in his face and give
Speaker 1: him a great point. And I just think that. I
Speaker 1: just think Washington will will win the game. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Tampa. I know they've won a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: that in the past, and Tom Brady, I just think why.
Speaker 1: I just feel like the teams that sneak in like
Speaker 1: this seven and nine, eight and eighteen that shouldn't be there,
Speaker 1: there shouldn't be they win. I've seen it happen a
Speaker 1: couple of times. I think I'm gonna go Washington, all right, Amber,
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to pick a playoff game against Brady,
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I just have a feeling
Speaker 1: in that at Washington my actually sneak in there just
Speaker 1: because it's gonna make Cowboys fans even more miserable than
Speaker 1: what they are really are. So just for the sake
Speaker 1: of that, I think it could end up playing out
Speaker 1: that way with Washington winning, just so we can feel
Speaker 1: even worse about the twenty twenty season. All right, Amber, Okay, Dave, Hey,
Speaker 1: I need to shave I guess not well, Okay, Age
Speaker 1: first of all, like I mean, they're different matchups, Like
Speaker 1: Dallas doesn't have the pass rush to mess with Brady.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Brady would give Carved the Cowboys up.
Speaker 1: But I agree with y'all. I feel silly that all
Speaker 1: three of us think that. But Brady turns into a
Speaker 1: pumpkin when he's got pressure in his face. That front
Speaker 1: is disgusting. It's gonna be like near freezing on Saturday
Speaker 1: night in Landover. I think Washington's gonna win too. That's
Speaker 1: the crazy thing is I came into the show thinking
Speaker 1: I was gonna go Tampa Bay, and then Nick made
Speaker 1: that point. I was like, that's an excellent point. It's
Speaker 1: so true, like that is who Brady is. And by
Speaker 1: the way, that's how this year, that same thing is
Speaker 1: played out early in the season when they had their struggles.
Speaker 1: This year, it's been when Brady was getting pressured before you,
Speaker 1: before you make this pick. Dave has made it clear
Speaker 1: all year he's like the whole the whole tables, So
Speaker 1: the whole tables should not you're I mean against Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: It all no sense. Nick, w on all of us
Speaker 1: here and get and take this. Okay, all right, all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you talk, the Bucks are gonna I'm gonna go. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with the Bucks. You guys went with Washington,
Speaker 1: I'll go with the Bucks, all right. Baltimore, Tennessee. Nick,
Speaker 1: Who oh God, Baltimore. I guess okay, Superman, I mean
Speaker 1: it goes, I mean goes to the locker room, number two,
Speaker 1: comes back, wins the game. I mean he's he's the
Speaker 1: man Lamar for Lamar Amber. Um. Actually I actually wrote
Speaker 1: down the Ravens as well. Um. I don't know, honestly,
Speaker 1: there's no reasoning behind it. I just see them. I
Speaker 1: don't know their little logo and they're little beak and thing.
Speaker 1: Just like for some reason, he just calls my attention
Speaker 1: and intimidates me a little bit more than the other team.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go with the Ravens for absolutely no
Speaker 1: reason before Dave steals mygo before he steals my point.
Speaker 1: The reason why is us I think that they have
Speaker 1: a strong enough defense that will limit big boy in Tennessee.
Speaker 1: I mean, he can go off, but I think Baltimore's
Speaker 1: team can be a defense that can kind of control him. Dave,
Speaker 1: I think this is the matchup of the weekend Honestly,
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a hell of a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. The Ravens have rushed for eleven hundred yards
Speaker 1: in the last month of the season. You know, they
Speaker 1: went for three hundred against the Cowboys. They've been running
Speaker 1: over everybody. Tennessee is quietly not very good against the run.
Speaker 1: I think people think that they are because they're physical
Speaker 1: and Mike Rabel, but they're kind of leaky against the run.
Speaker 1: So give me the Ravens offense against Derrick Henry trying
Speaker 1: to do it all himself. All right, I think we
Speaker 1: all agree on that. I'm also on the train of Baltimore.
Speaker 1: I think they get to win this weekend Chicago versus
Speaker 1: New Orleans, New Orleans Amber just easy, yep, all right, Dave, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is I don't have the guts to pick Chicago
Speaker 1: because it's in the Superdome, it's indoors, but you know,
Speaker 1: the spread is ten. Everybody just assumes the Saints are
Speaker 1: gonna roll. This game went to overtime in the regular season.
Speaker 1: Drew Brees is not the Drew Brees of years past.
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't throw the ball as well as he
Speaker 1: used to. This offense has had stretches where it's very
Speaker 1: stop and start. I think this is going to be
Speaker 1: a dog fight. I'm gonna pick the Saints to win,
Speaker 1: but I feel like people are writing off Chicago, Like
Speaker 1: Chicago's played pretty well over the last month, and They've
Speaker 1: got a nasty defense that's gonna get in Brees's face.
Speaker 1: I bet I bet the Saints win by like six
Speaker 1: or less. Yeah, I will say this. I think New
Speaker 1: Orleans has a nastier defense, and I think they'll be
Speaker 1: I mean, like Chicago's offense is much worse than New Orleans.
Speaker 1: I think that's the difference. I think this is a
Speaker 1: defensive game. I don't think it's a high scoring game,
Speaker 1: but I do think New Orleans wins this game. Bears
Speaker 1: are one of the two teams in the NFL history
Speaker 1: to have a six game losing streak and still make
Speaker 1: the playoffs at some point in the year. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's turned in and around. I mean that's like
Speaker 1: six games. You're thinking Draft show, Yeah, you know, but
Speaker 1: damn it's amazing. All right? Final game Cleveland versus Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Where do we go? Nick? I go to Pittsburgh. Cleveland
Speaker 1: I think is a mess right now? I mean, the
Speaker 1: coach isn't going to be not be able to coach
Speaker 1: this weekend, or I think he's play caller isn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Cleveland, if you go back and look early in
Speaker 1: the season, I know things have been different than but
Speaker 1: Cleveland with Roland Pittsburgh stomped him. Even last week. They
Speaker 1: weren't even playing a lot of their guys and it
Speaker 1: was a pretty close game. I like Pittsburgh on this one,
Speaker 1: all right. I really really really want to pick the Browns,
Speaker 1: but it's just hard given their current situation and you know,
Speaker 1: them not being able to really practice this week in
Speaker 1: person and all that. So uh man, I I wanted
Speaker 1: the Steelers to lose, but I think that this game
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a win for the Steelers, all right, Dave,
Speaker 1: I kind of think the Steelers are frauds, But I
Speaker 1: also kind of think the Browns are frauds. And not
Speaker 1: only are they frauds, but like they're not used to
Speaker 1: the spotlight, Like, hey, good for them. I mean they
Speaker 1: want eleven games obviously, like they've come so far. They
Speaker 1: deserve a lot of credit for that, but they're not
Speaker 1: used to playing in games like this, Nick, I mean
Speaker 1: they barely beat Pittsburgh last week with Mason Rudolphin at quarterback.
Speaker 1: They've gotten stomped by a lot of the better teams
Speaker 1: they've played. They lost to the Jets a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Oh, and they're not going to have their
Speaker 1: head coach. So I mean, I'm not a big believer
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, but I just I don't believe in the
Speaker 1: Browns at all. Yeah. I couldn't have said it even
Speaker 1: any better day. I think the exact same thing. All right,
Speaker 1: so we all picked Pittsburgh as well. We'll see all
Speaker 1: this plays out. There'll be a lot of really good
Speaker 1: games this weekend. Was there any game where we differed
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, Washington? I picked Washington and everybody else picked
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. I picked Tampa BA, everybody picked Washington. Yes,
Speaker 1: all the other games were we were all all four.
Speaker 1: All right. That ain't a good sign, No, it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not a good for the teams that we picked against. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's not a good sign. But we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: We'll talk, we can see where we landed, and we'll
Speaker 1: get you ready for the games the following week. All right,
Speaker 1: we appreciate you guys. John super back next week till
Speaker 1: then for Nick Even, Dave Hamble, Hellman, Ambergarcia. I am
Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. This has been the Break live on Dallas
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