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Speaker 2: Jordan will also make a case for a trade up

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Speaker 3: Jordan's so great to see it once again.

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Speaker 2: How big of an opportunity is this for the New

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Speaker 3: Considering their draft capital over the.

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Speaker 1: What's huge. Whenever you have that amount of draft capital,

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Speaker 2: Do you anticipate a run on Edges there at the

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Speaker 3: Could we see Edges go two, three, four?

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Speaker 2: let's do wheels up, wheels down as far as stock

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Speaker 1: So I'll stick with the Jets needs one player that

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know how much time we have, but

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Speaker 2: Jordan, Why has he why has Luke been flying under

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Speaker 1: I think it's just because a lot of people see

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Speaker 2: All Right, you prepare for this because you can wear

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Speaker 2: gonna put the hat on you for the Jets. You

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Speaker 2: got Darren Mugie's spot right now. We're gonna do a

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Speaker 2: two round mock draft with you number two overall.

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Speaker 3: Who you taking.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Arvill Reese out of Ohio State,

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm the commissioner here in the mock draft,

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Speaker 2: and I say, Jordan, you can make trades if you want.

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Speaker 3: The Jets do have the number sixteen overall pick.

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Speaker 1: So I'm actually going to a state stampat here, and

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Speaker 1: Makayle Lemon is actually on the board just because we're

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Speaker 1: I just think he's such a great fit alongside Garrett Wilson,

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Speaker 3: All right, Jordan, it is Thursday night.

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Speaker 2: Night one is over, but people are blowing up your phone.

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Speaker 2: You know they want that thirty third overall, Peck, are

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Speaker 2: you sitting tight and taking someone?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna sit tight, and we're gonna take one

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Speaker 1: Jets fan to become very familiar with is aj Halsey,

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Speaker 1: who's a safety out of LSU. He's one of my

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Speaker 2: Jets certainly need more takeaways in twenty twenty six, and

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Speaker 2: Halsey showed a propensity for that on the collegiate level.

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Speaker 3: How about number forty four overall.

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Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna go corner here. I think the Jets

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna be here, but this

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Speaker 1: Sisa is one player I'm a big fan of, more

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Speaker 2: Finally, Jordan, we're throwing you the virtual whiteboard. You are

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Speaker 2: in the Jets draft room right now. You are a

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Speaker 2: scout and they're asking you your red star player who

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Speaker 1: So just not basing this on the Jets' needs, but

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Speaker 2: Jordan, thanks for playing Jets GM just for today. We're

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Speaker 2: going to continue to follow you, of course, in all

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Speaker 2: your pre draft analysis on ESPN.

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Speaker 3: Thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me as always