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Speaker 3: All Right, it is kind of a strange slate. I
Speaker 3: feel like this week it's the first one. I felt
Speaker 3: like whether they're on like five or six, like ooh,
Speaker 3: we're you gonna go with this? Like I have my fascinations.
Speaker 3: I'm going Falcons. Who at Detroit Falcons are getting three
Speaker 3: points going into Michigan to try to battle the Lions.
Speaker 3: We talked a lot about the about the Falcons on
Speaker 3: our NFL Plus Monday recap of their game with the Packers,
Speaker 3: and this matchup to me is kind of fascinating because
Speaker 3: I was thinking about, like this the history of our
Speaker 3: entire show, and like you had that Falcons Matt Ryan
Speaker 3: super Bowl type team, but has Falcons Lions ever been
Speaker 3: taken as the number one pick ever in the history
Speaker 3: of our show. I don't think on any level. Probably
Speaker 3: haven't played that often, but yeah, right, It's just like
Speaker 3: it kind of tells you that a lot's changed for
Speaker 3: these two teams pretty quickly. And I think for me,
Speaker 3: like what I want to watch is two things, like
Speaker 3: the growth of Atlanta's offense. Really, I feel like with
Speaker 3: Jon Robinson, you have a bit of a cheat code
Speaker 3: where you're gonna produce every week. On the ground, he
Speaker 3: looks about as unstoppable as any rookie running back that
Speaker 3: I can recall, and he seems to his role is growing.
Speaker 3: We've seen his snap count jump up last week, as
Speaker 3: it should, and I think, if you're like Tyler Algio
Speaker 3: are still a very talented player, like your role is
Speaker 3: gonna diminish. I really trust them on the ground. I'm
Speaker 3: a little concerned about Detroit's defense, like I thought in
Speaker 3: Week one against the Chiefs held him to six points
Speaker 3: in the second half. That probably lose that game if
Speaker 3: you don't have Kadarius Tony having a complete meltdown though,
Speaker 3: and now you've lost CJ. Gardner, Johnson, James Houston, is out,
Speaker 3: and even with James Houston, the pass rush has really
Speaker 3: essentially been Aiden Hutchinson and not much else. They have
Speaker 3: one sack on the season. That maybe not be the
Speaker 3: biggest concern in this game because Desmond Ritter through the
Speaker 3: ball more than you'd think last week, like is a
Speaker 3: real hot and cold operate. I think it's fair to
Speaker 3: look at him and say he's a complete wait and
Speaker 3: see under center and probably kind of like the one
Speaker 3: factor that could sync that offense. But against last week
Speaker 3: against Green Bay, they ran for four point seven yards
Speaker 3: per rush and ran the ball forty five times, And
Speaker 3: I just think if you can do that kind of
Speaker 3: thing to Detroit or on a weekly basis, you're gonna
Speaker 3: be in these games late no matter what.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a real test for this Lions defense, whether
Speaker 2: they've changed at all, because they were disappointing a week
Speaker 2: ago and they are really banged up. It goes back
Speaker 2: to the whole pre can't can't lose anyone in the preseason,
Speaker 2: like it'd be a tragedy, and then we start the
Speaker 2: season like half these teams I feel like lost like
Speaker 2: eight starters and the Lions are really high up there.
Speaker 2: The Gardner Johnson injury, which we mentioned Monday night but
Speaker 2: we didn't linger on it is massive there at safety
Speaker 2: really improve their team. They're hopeful he can maybe come
Speaker 2: back at the end of the season with the tornpector,
Speaker 2: which sometimes that works out, sometimes it doesn't. But beyond that,
Speaker 2: Taylor Decker is injured, Emmanuel Moseley, their their cornerback is
Speaker 2: injured by Tie. Their offensive lineman who's who's kind of
Speaker 2: a lynch pin who really improved things is out, and
Speaker 2: so there's just a lot of injuries that they're dealing
Speaker 2: with throughout the roster. A mon ran So Brown is
Speaker 2: missing practice, but I assume that's not going to be
Speaker 2: like too serious. And I think they the Falcons, will
Speaker 2: ask questions to your defense that other teams just don't.
Speaker 2: And yet I have my doubts that Desmond Ritter can
Speaker 2: make you pay for the one on one matchups that
Speaker 2: that Arthur Smith can create with some of those playmakers
Speaker 2: when they do throw the ball. But they did ask
Speaker 2: him Danny last week to be a little different. That
Speaker 2: was the most aggressive Desmond Ridder passing game ever and
Speaker 2: it was ugly and it was pretty great on a
Speaker 2: few throws too. He made some great throws and he
Speaker 2: made some big mistakes, but they decided to put a
Speaker 2: little more on his plate and it was way more
Speaker 2: of a roller coaster than other Desmond Ridder starts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got to take some off his plate. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'd agree, And I think.
Speaker 1: If people just look at the stat line, he'll be like, oh,
Speaker 1: he was okay in that game, and maybe this room
Speaker 1: for group, but he was dreadful in that game. He
Speaker 1: hit some throws and had some a nice goal line
Speaker 1: run for a touchdown, and so it wasn't like a
Speaker 1: total one of those wipeout games where there's nothing to
Speaker 1: take from him. But he gave the Packers every chance
Speaker 1: to win that game with throws that were right in
Speaker 1: the chest of defenders, a really suspect early red zone
Speaker 1: pass that was floating there for the taking. And I'm
Speaker 1: just curious. Didn't love Arthur Smith's game plan in week one.
Speaker 1: I didn't love it in game two a week two either,
Speaker 1: just because of how much was put on the plate
Speaker 1: of Ritter. And you have this guy now in Jean
Speaker 1: Robinson that I want. I wish I could give the
Speaker 1: credit to the person an X who put it out there,
Speaker 1: but they had that view that went around the viral
Speaker 1: view of the from above of Bijon juking and spinning
Speaker 1: and just putting anyone in his area in the blender.
Speaker 1: And this person said, this is what we thought Reggie
Speaker 1: Bush was to be coming out of college into the NFL,
Speaker 1: like this absolute dynamo. Rogie Bush had a fine NFL career,
Speaker 1: but the.
Speaker 4: Top was like Fadrick, Reggie Bush was twenty five pounds
Speaker 4: heavier too, Right.
Speaker 1: But just in terms of like this guy, it's gonna
Speaker 1: what he did in college is gonna translate, and it
Speaker 1: absolutely has. So I would like to see Desmond Ridder
Speaker 1: putting better positions, throwing the ball less. And I know
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be great news for some of these
Speaker 1: pass catchers, but make this all Bijon with some more
Speaker 1: running game. I'm not saying like.
Speaker 4: He had twenty he had twenty five touches last week.
Speaker 1: Right, Banco Moore, But just take a little off Desmond's
Speaker 1: plate because I don't think he's ready for it. And
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith obviously is confident enough to give him that
Speaker 1: much of an assignment in Week two when he got
Speaker 1: away with it by sheer luck. Quite honestly, they got
Speaker 1: away with how much was given to Desmond Ritter. I'm
Speaker 1: interested to see what Arthur Smith puts on the quarterback's
Speaker 1: plate after watching the game tape and seeing what happened
Speaker 1: from the sideline.
Speaker 3: It's interesting because I think like one of the consistent
Speaker 3: frustrations for fantasy player or Falcons fans in generals, it's
Speaker 3: like the Kyle Pitts thing, and like he and Drake
Speaker 3: London last week combined for eight catches and two of
Speaker 3: them were for Pits. London a year ago had one
Speaker 3: hundred and seventeen targets. Now he had a drops issue
Speaker 3: and had only seventy catches. But it's like he was
Speaker 3: featured a ton last year and now they're in a
Speaker 3: situation where it's like I kind of am with you,
Speaker 3: like have Ritter do less because it's such a variance
Speaker 3: of what he's going to give you. And they're lucky
Speaker 3: they didn't have two pick sixes last week, and that
Speaker 3: would have changed the whole way that game ended.
Speaker 1: That one goal line setup. We talked about it on
Speaker 1: the on the Monday Plus show, where you're asking Dozen
Speaker 1: Murder to make passes and you're only giving bees on
Speaker 1: the ball once give him the Rock by the goal line.
Speaker 3: I could see that easier. I mean, do I feel
Speaker 3: like Ritter seems to get law like down in those
Speaker 3: red zone that one sequence you talked about, We're just
Speaker 3: like missing Falcons wideouts high and by a lot like He's.
Speaker 3: It's not what you'd expect with the weapons they have
Speaker 3: in the red zone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're going to be a limited offensive team.
Speaker 2: They would ended up trailing in that game and had
Speaker 2: to come back. I just think the Falcons defense is
Speaker 2: in better position this year to keep these games under
Speaker 2: control in a way that they weren't a year ago.
Speaker 2: But they haven't totally been tested either. I mean, the
Speaker 2: Packers were missing people last week and Week one they
Speaker 2: got to play the Panthers. But I've really been impressed
Speaker 2: with what Ryan Nielsen has done. Their new coordinator came
Speaker 2: from the Saints, and all their pickups are working, Like
Speaker 2: Onya mad has really made a big impact for them
Speaker 2: at defensive tackle. Cayden Ellis has made a big impact
Speaker 2: for them at linebacker. And this is a huge test
Speaker 2: where the Lions offense really tests you in the middle
Speaker 2: of the field. I know they're without David Montgomery, but
Speaker 2: to me, they still have enough weapons to make this
Speaker 2: an offensive type of game, and I think Atlanta's defense
Speaker 2: is at least respectable enough now that they can keep
Speaker 2: the score down.
Speaker 4: This is a fun one.
Speaker 1: I had said that a few weeks back, Greg, if
Speaker 1: the Lions came into this matchup undefeated, maybe some team
Speaker 1: of ATN run it back. They didn't do that, but
Speaker 1: if they, if they spank, doesn't ryder in his little
Speaker 1: Adams maybe maybe still don't.
Speaker 4: Want anyone to be about they have not.
Speaker 1: Running against the Falcons. I just want us to have
Speaker 1: an open eyed look at what's going on with If you're.
Speaker 3: The Lions, like you need to say this is a
Speaker 3: game we win, Like this year's version of the Lions doesn't.
Speaker 1: Should here and go one.
Speaker 2: And feel a lot of team of atl momentum for
Speaker 2: for any team, it's possible.
Speaker 4: Sometimes happened, or sometimes it takes until later.
Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, the over under on this game
Speaker 1: is forty six and a half fhy I.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's move to the second pick with Greg Okay.
Speaker 4: I want to watch Chargers Vikings early.
Speaker 2: They're two to zero to two teams in a weird
Speaker 2: way that makes this game feel more important. And I
Speaker 2: find these two teams very intriguing despite their record. And
Speaker 2: I have noticed that the Chargers offense is totally different,
Speaker 2: Like Keenan Allen is making plays deep down the field.
Speaker 4: When was the last time you saw that?
Speaker 2: Twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, Like Herbert's adat you know, his
Speaker 2: average depth of target is higher than it's been throughout
Speaker 2: his career. They're third in offensive DVOA through two weeks.
Speaker 2: I think Herbert's taken some sacks in is taken a
Speaker 2: little while to process in spots. You'd love him to
Speaker 2: make a little quicker decision. But they're last in defense.
Speaker 2: So it's it's to me, it's all on the defense.
Speaker 2: And this is a matchup where you think that the
Speaker 2: offenses are both gonna win. But I'm confident that the
Speaker 2: Chargers offense and I know that's going against Brian Flores
Speaker 2: and he's he's cooking up some new things here.
Speaker 4: But I like watching this Chargers offense so far.
Speaker 2: It's sounds like Austin Eckler is going to be back,
Speaker 2: and I think the Vikings are going to have to
Speaker 2: score a lot to keep up.
Speaker 1: In this one. By the way, Vikings minus won in
Speaker 1: this game, so Vegasy is a close.
Speaker 3: It just feels like the Chargers are going to be
Speaker 3: in these games that come right down to the end
Speaker 3: and allowing teams like the same way that you know
Speaker 3: Minnesota crawled back against the Eagles last week, because I
Speaker 3: think with Justin Jefferson, with their passing game in general,
Speaker 3: they're just they're they're never too far away from like
Speaker 3: making an impact, making a game close. And the Chargers
Speaker 3: just opened the door to that. Like, I mean a
Speaker 3: week ago we were wondering if Ryan Tannehill's career might
Speaker 3: be over, and he goes twenty for twenty, Well no,
Speaker 3: but it was like he looked like off a cliff.
Speaker 2: But I always said that, Yeah, I guess I hadn't
Speaker 2: And you came into the season saying he's underrated, and
Speaker 2: so we didn't even flip so fast.
Speaker 3: But it's like, I guess I'm more saying that the
Speaker 3: Chargers don't want to operate when your head coach is
Speaker 3: this defensive specialist, You're you're in year three. It's their
Speaker 3: clear achilles and they just opened the door and allowed
Speaker 3: teams to get right on that side of the ball.
Speaker 2: Well, the whole point to the Brandon Stalely defense, remember,
Speaker 2: is that, oh, well, we prevent big plays.
Speaker 4: Like That's the whole idea, the whole Vic Fangio thing.
Speaker 2: It's why there's articles written about the deep ball is
Speaker 2: dead in the NFL, and it's basically because of the
Speaker 2: Vic Fangio defensive tree, of which Brandon Stalely is won.
Speaker 2: But who gives up more deep balls than any team
Speaker 2: in the league. It's the Chargers. They're worse defending the
Speaker 2: past than any team. And this is a tough team.
Speaker 2: This Vikings team are better going deep than they've ever
Speaker 2: been because they don't just have Jefferson, they don't just
Speaker 2: as Osborne.
Speaker 4: They now have Jordan Adison, who's a ballplayer.
Speaker 2: Danny and I think there could be a lot of
Speaker 2: fantasy points here for the Vikings.
Speaker 1: I think the I think if you drafted Kirk cousins.
Speaker 1: If you drafted justin Jefferson there is now we got
Speaker 1: cam akers in the building. I don't know what they're running.
Speaker 1: I really need to see the Vikings running game. Well,
Speaker 1: nothing to see and if they can. I'm not out
Speaker 1: on the Vikings yet. I know that they're owned two
Speaker 1: as well, and but I think in their division they
Speaker 1: absolutely got can get back on their feet and be
Speaker 1: a player here. But they got to win this game,
Speaker 1: and you've got to defend your home turf. It's a
Speaker 1: really tough poll for the Chargers, and we mentioned that
Speaker 1: letting both of those games slip away put you in
Speaker 1: such a bad spot because Minnesota is not going to
Speaker 1: be a team that's going to be easy to beat
Speaker 1: at home in this situation and owe to two team
Speaker 1: at home need in the W that's mostly healthy, That
Speaker 1: is going to be a very difficult ask for the Chargers.
Speaker 1: I think Minnesota is going to put up a lot
Speaker 1: of points in this game. Now it's another test for Herbert.
Speaker 1: Herbert's going to be tested all season unless something changes
Speaker 1: here on Los Angeles' other side of the ball, where
Speaker 1: he's going to be asked to keep scoring, stay healthy,
Speaker 1: put up points every week, and yes, come up with
Speaker 1: some of these drives to bail out the defense and
Speaker 1: win some of these games late, which hasn't happened ye yet.
Speaker 3: And it's two weeks in a row where there was
Speaker 3: another narrative where Justin Herbert comes out as the hero
Speaker 3: and it's not just him, but like they didn't answer that.
Speaker 3: They didn't answer it last week at all, and it's
Speaker 3: like there was a chance for just and Herbert's write
Speaker 3: a different type of story. I like the cam Akers
Speaker 3: pick up because because.
Speaker 4: It was free, it was eight round swap.
Speaker 3: I was just kind of thinking, like, who's gonna actually
Speaker 3: go after.
Speaker 1: It's such a silly trade. It shouldn't be allowed a
Speaker 1: swap of late round draft picks in three years. Just
Speaker 1: who are you fooling here?
Speaker 4: It's just that the Rams don't have to like feel
Speaker 4: ashamed that they.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I mean, don't waste their time, like
Speaker 1: we don't need. The insiders don't even sleep because the
Speaker 1: bosses tell them they're not allowed to miss any scoops.
Speaker 1: So you got rap sheet his wife, you know, shoving
Speaker 1: his shoulder at four a m. Yeah, to say, oh,
Speaker 1: there a trade just went down. Your your phone's blowing up.
Speaker 1: How about how about cam Akers? How about how about
Speaker 1: the Rams have to take the yel that because cam
Speaker 1: Akers did not what was it called again, the culture?
Speaker 1: Culture did not adhere to the culture in the Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: The Rams have a culture. You do not adhere to
Speaker 1: the culture, you must leave.
Speaker 3: Is that like less Sneed's assistant or something? Who's like
Speaker 3: who's it's mostly? But yeah, so I don't know, just
Speaker 3: stupid trade, go ahead, No I like it. Vikings thirty
Speaker 3: one yards against the Bucks, twenty eight on the ground
Speaker 3: against the Eagles, like and they said it wasn't a
Speaker 3: Alexander Madison like lack of confidence, Well it is a
Speaker 3: little bit, I mean bad, one of the.
Speaker 2: Worst backup running back situations in the lead. I mean
Speaker 2: the two of them will share, we'll see. Acres has
Speaker 2: been very up and down as a pro, but I
Speaker 2: think has always been a little overrated.
Speaker 1: Uh isn't it? Quickly? How how it changes? It went
Speaker 1: from all summer everybody being like, well, no, I'm not
Speaker 1: saying Dalvin Cook has been great shakes in New York
Speaker 1: so far, but it was like, oh, yeah, Madison, he'll
Speaker 1: be fine. And I know Dalvin Cook has average fifteen
Speaker 1: hundred yards from scrimmage for six straight years. But they
Speaker 1: got Madison. He's fine, and that happened.
Speaker 2: That line is brutal, and they were missing Christian Darrisaw
Speaker 2: just saying sometimes we just beside Dolphins. Riser, I think
Speaker 2: Dearisa's back for this game.
Speaker 3: I'm so with you.
Speaker 1: We do a little summer plug and play sometimes as
Speaker 1: analysts and in our industry, and it's like, well, we
Speaker 1: got to see.
Speaker 3: It, I mean, but we're also we're playing along with
Speaker 3: the whole thing because it's like we all know, realistically,
Speaker 3: you get to week three, half these rosters are shredded.
Speaker 3: So these people that you're talking about the.
Speaker 4: Team around him.
Speaker 2: And look, there's certainly no one in Minnesota that wish
Speaker 2: is they had Dalvin Cook right now. So whether whether
Speaker 2: Madison was good enough to fill in.
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's I totally disagree. There's no one
Speaker 1: in Minnesota.
Speaker 2: I mean, they would love to have Dalvin Cook from
Speaker 2: three years ago. But if they're watching Dalvin Cook's tape
Speaker 2: this year, who's in a similarly bad situation, I think
Speaker 2: they'd have to say, like, we're not missing him right now?
Speaker 4: Maybe I mean my crazy I mean.
Speaker 3: They willingly moved on, So I mean not everyone in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm not. I know it's gonna sound because
Speaker 1: he's a Jet, but I'm not. I'm still not ready
Speaker 1: to say Dalvin Cook is washed right now, like totally washed.
Speaker 1: He was expensive.
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to say that either, But I don't
Speaker 2: think they're They would think he would be solving what
Speaker 2: is going on there.
Speaker 1: That's all I understand that. Now Madison play the guitar.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. There was an assumption that he obviously.
Speaker 2: Could Joey Bosa give me more than nineteen snaps this week.
Speaker 2: This is a guy who hasn't played more than five
Speaker 2: hundred and seventy five snaps only three times in his career.
Speaker 1: For you to say in your podcam jail.
Speaker 2: Last week, I know it so good when he plays,
Speaker 2: but they really need him on the field because Coleil
Speaker 2: Mack is not given them much.
Speaker 1: Now there's a guy that maybe it's time, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe it's time time to what to not view him
Speaker 1: as an impact player. Well, I think I think we
Speaker 1: reached that location. All right, where are we at? I'm
Speaker 1: up here? We go first game? It should it should
Speaker 1: be gone, guys, it should be gone at Buffalo at Washington.
Speaker 1: I like the Bills the way they looked in Week two.
Speaker 1: It showed again that that's a stable operation with good
Speaker 1: leadership that after a pretty harrowing Monday night with your
Speaker 1: franchise star just setting himself on fire, basically, they were
Speaker 1: able to look like the Bills we expect and Western
Speaker 1: New York expects them to be, and they hammered the Raiders.
Speaker 1: Now let's talk about the commanders. Though. Let's have a
Speaker 1: little conversation about the commanders, because there's a couple of
Speaker 1: different ways you could look at the Washington Commanders. You
Speaker 1: could look at it they are a team that almost
Speaker 1: got beat by Arizona and needed a comeback in Week
Speaker 1: one one twenty to sixteen, okay, And then you could say,
Speaker 1: well they won last week two, but they were down
Speaker 1: twenty one to three to the to the Broncos, and
Speaker 1: so the opponents have been soft, the schedule's been soft. However,
Speaker 1: they did come back against the Cardinals, and that second
Speaker 1: half performance of the offense, again by the offense against
Speaker 1: Denver was really nice, and the defense as well. Quite honestly,
Speaker 1: like you, there was a hail Mary at the and
Speaker 1: that put a little lipstick on the pig there for Denver.
Speaker 1: But Washington's play on both sides of the ball and
Speaker 1: closing out the these two games is notable one. And
Speaker 1: Sam Howe has made some big time eye opening throws
Speaker 1: in these games. And he has my curiosity.
Speaker 2: He's feisty, he's I mean, everyone is welcome to enjoy
Speaker 2: Sam Howe. I think they should, but I feel like
Speaker 2: he'd be in my stable of boys right now. I'm
Speaker 2: loving my little Sam.
Speaker 1: How do we want to put this team on the
Speaker 1: radar team of ATM.
Speaker 4: I'm down.
Speaker 2: I knew I'm not sure before the season. They might
Speaker 2: lose this game and be two and one, But that
Speaker 2: doesn't bother me.
Speaker 1: I you were throwing it. No, you were talking about
Speaker 1: the Lions as the team of ATN.
Speaker 4: Well, just as a team that we like.
Speaker 2: It is intriguing, I said, it, wouldn't it be very
Speaker 2: I forget what the word was, transgressive to go Commander's
Speaker 2: team of it right in the total.
Speaker 1: Maybe a year ago or the past twenty years, it
Speaker 1: would never happen. But considering the changing culture there, culture,
Speaker 1: the culture is different.
Speaker 3: No, it's it's very different.
Speaker 1: If Sam how is going to be kind a bit
Speaker 1: of a young gunslinger type here, and young and sweaty
Speaker 1: is back, and Deron Payin is making plays, and Terry
Speaker 1: McLaurin might have a guy that could actually sling him
Speaker 1: the rock, and Curtis Samuel do this little fun stuff
Speaker 1: and Brian Robbinson.
Speaker 4: It also feels like a.
Speaker 2: Gesture at Dan Snyder to pick them now too, which
Speaker 2: I always eased you.
Speaker 3: You wouldn't You wouldn't enjoy that, And I'm not against
Speaker 3: that concept. I know they're in that. They'd be in
Speaker 3: that running because I think how we'll just he's not perfect,
Speaker 3: and I don't only have a problem with some of
Speaker 3: their up and down nature over the first couple of
Speaker 3: games when you're going in there with a quarterback that's
Speaker 3: so inexperienced, but like he just makes things happen, and
Speaker 3: like it's kind of like the quarterback I like to watch,
Speaker 3: just like I don't know how Ron Rivera stumbled across this,
Speaker 3: because it's like he seemed to intentionally try to not
Speaker 3: find a quarterback over the course of half a decade
Speaker 3: and hold on to his job and going to get
Speaker 3: into the playoffs with like nine wins, but it's.
Speaker 2: Take steadfast though, like to start this off season, we're
Speaker 2: gonna ride how No, they've said that all along, and
Speaker 2: like they it was funny they don't.
Speaker 1: His quote right before the season, Like if I would
Speaker 1: have known he was that good, I would have played
Speaker 1: him sooner. So like Ron was gassing up Sam before
Speaker 1: the season started.
Speaker 3: By the way, that also tells you that Ron Rivera
Speaker 3: was closer to Sam Howel than anyone else on earth
Speaker 3: all of last season. And like Colin Kaepernick and San
Speaker 3: Francisco when they're like this guy's too hard to keep
Speaker 3: off the field, we're watching him in practice, it's like
Speaker 3: you didn't self scout the entire what.
Speaker 1: It means Sam Howe's brother, like Terry Howell.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm saying from is Terry Howell at every practice?
Speaker 3: Like Ron Rivera's like, oh, I should have You shouldn't
Speaker 3: be telling us that.
Speaker 1: Maybe do you know if Terry Howell is at every practice?
Speaker 3: I don't know for sure.
Speaker 2: Terry's a good, good guy, a good football mine.
Speaker 1: You know who's not in how Vegas the desert right now,
Speaker 1: six and a half points of wood being laid to
Speaker 1: the visiting team. So the idea here is that Washington's
Speaker 1: not ready or the Bills are that good?
Speaker 3: Well, like for the from a team of atl standpoint,
Speaker 3: Like let's say a bomb is dropped on Washington, Uh,
Speaker 3: the football team on a football field, not the city,
Speaker 3: like by the Bills, and it's like we start, we
Speaker 3: start to not believe.
Speaker 2: Fully, it's a long process and they're fun and to me,
Speaker 2: a ten win fun, you know, just different sort of
Speaker 2: season is perfect for temy At and I think that's
Speaker 2: what samhow it could provide. I mean, watching that game,
Speaker 2: it was hard for me not to think like he's
Speaker 2: young russ I mean, that is his comp in the NFL.
Speaker 2: He's got the same sort of body type, the same
Speaker 2: sort of runner, the same sort of deep ball, the
Speaker 2: same sort of I'm gonna hold the ball forever and
Speaker 2: it's gonna be too long sometimes and bad things are
Speaker 2: gonna happen sometimes because of that, but good things are
Speaker 2: gonna happen because of that too. He I'm not saying
Speaker 2: he's has the ceiling of young Russell Wilson necessarily, but
Speaker 2: he's the same type of player. And they've really looked
Speaker 2: sharp on offense in a way I don't think they
Speaker 2: were last year. And Eric Bienemy needs to get credit
Speaker 2: because he'd be getting buried if he went to Washington
Speaker 2: and they stunk and the Chiefs office offense is rolling,
Speaker 2: and yet know how many people are really talking about like,
Speaker 2: oh wow, your screen game is really on points to me,
Speaker 2: that's coaching, that's offensive line. That's like, that's coaching. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are, you know, stinking on offense. And Eric
Speaker 2: b Enemy's gone, so he's had a nice start. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying they're like rolling it, but this is a
Speaker 2: much different test to play.
Speaker 1: The Bills team. They were rolling in the second half
Speaker 1: a mile high.
Speaker 4: I guess I can't remember the last time I yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Mean maybe there's a football head will point out that,
Speaker 1: like the twenty seventeen week fourteen through sixteen window or something.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time that I enjoyed watching Washington.
Speaker 3: They made it tough. They made it tough for a
Speaker 3: long time, and the and the organization had a stink
Speaker 3: that was unappealing as well.
Speaker 2: And then the Commanders have four defensive line And We'll
Speaker 2: get to your Bills fans quickly because I know we
Speaker 2: but look their offensive line. If there's any question about
Speaker 2: the Bills. It's their offensive line. Now they got to
Speaker 2: go against this young and sweaty Dron Payin and j
Speaker 2: Jonathan Allen. Those four guys had twenty five pressures last week.
Speaker 1: Not the team.
Speaker 4: That's a big number for a team, just those four guys.
Speaker 1: So that's a nice don't worry. Josh Allen has a plan.
Speaker 1: He's going to jump over them. They're set.
Speaker 2: Bills want to be physical like they have. Their two
Speaker 2: tight ends are starting to run the boss. That's a
Speaker 2: really nice test when they have Dawson Knox.
Speaker 3: Was not a practice on Thursday though with a back issue.
Speaker 1: Uhatomy. Hey, Eric, producer, very important. If the Washington Commanders
Speaker 1: win on Sunday, that's a major major development and team
Speaker 1: of ATM potential. Can we have can you get in
Speaker 1: touch with Terry Howell just in case they win, so
Speaker 1: we can have him on the Monday maybe the Monday
Speaker 1: night show, even the Sunday flagship show.
Speaker 3: The brother of would be a great guest.
Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely, we're not hearing you, Eric, Yeah, he had
Speaker 7: his moment there, lots.
Speaker 1: Of buttons back here, can you hear me? Now?
Speaker 4: Gotcha?
Speaker 1: I got him lined up? There you go.
Speaker 3: It's also a bill.
Speaker 1: I see, I don't know if he has a brother,
Speaker 1: and if his brother's name is Terry, or if brother
Speaker 1: named Terry, they close.
Speaker 7: I don't know that hinges on the Bills losing, though correct,
Speaker 7: there's a.
Speaker 3: Number of tank I mean, well that primarily would.
Speaker 1: Be hopefully I'm not making that casse. We're in a
Speaker 1: Bill's hat, so he can't imagine all that would being
Speaker 1: laid and then being burned. All right, kind of a
Speaker 1: widespread All right, let's take a break, and then we'll
Speaker 1: continue with the draft. Now right, we are back and
Speaker 1: snakes back to me in the old week three draft,
Speaker 1: and I will take Oh, we have some demons to
Speaker 1: slay in the swampsa Jersey. Because the New England Patriots
Speaker 1: are coming to the Meadowlands to face the Jets. This
Speaker 1: is not the ideal set up on a number of levels. Obviously,
Speaker 1: like Aaron Rodgers be playing for the Jets. I also
Speaker 1: would rather the Pats not be in a desperate place
Speaker 1: at oh and two. That does not fill me with
Speaker 1: a lot of confidence because I know obviously teams play different.
Speaker 1: There's an urgency level. The Patriots cannot lose this game. Statistically,
Speaker 1: the data tells you that almost every oh to three
Speaker 1: game is cooked. It's such a big hole, even with
Speaker 1: an added game to the schedule. So now the Jets
Speaker 1: have to Now here's the positive side, Greg, and for
Speaker 1: a Patriots fan, it's the flip side. Jets can bury
Speaker 1: the Patriots in week three. They could send that organization
Speaker 1: and fan base into a tailspin before the calendar flips
Speaker 1: over to October. Now they have to do it, and
Speaker 1: they have to do it with their defense and their
Speaker 1: running game. The Jets got away from their running game.
Speaker 1: Now the Cowboys played a big role in that. And
Speaker 1: you saw how the Cowboys had answers for everything the
Speaker 1: Jets were doing in week two. I thought it was
Speaker 1: a masterclass from McCarthy and company. B Reesaw needs to get
Speaker 1: the ball more than four times. Breesol needs to get
Speaker 1: the ball like the Falcons need to give John Robinson
Speaker 1: the ball, quite frankly, because you can't put too much
Speaker 1: on Zach Wilson's plate. You need to dash of Zach
Speaker 1: Wilson and keep guys like Garrett Wilson a playmaker in
Speaker 1: the mix. But you win the game at the running
Speaker 1: game and the defense. After being humbled by the Cowboys
Speaker 1: in Week two has to take it gregy to mac
Speaker 1: Jones and an offense for the Patriot that has to
Speaker 1: work very hard to manufacture, and you have to get
Speaker 1: after mac Jones and punish him in this game.
Speaker 2: The two quarterbacks in this game are in a tough spot.
Speaker 2: These are the two worst offensive lines in the NFL,
Speaker 2: the Jets and the Patriots in terms of pass block
Speaker 2: win rate, So they're just losing over and over. There
Speaker 2: is certainly not a worst tackle combination when Trent Brown
Speaker 2: is out of the lineup than the Patriots. Calvin Anderson
Speaker 2: was like a journeyman and didn't touch the field in training.
Speaker 2: Gim He's just been a turnstyle left tackle. They actually
Speaker 2: are starting. They started last week. The Vikings sixth tackle
Speaker 2: was their life, and they came in and they brought
Speaker 2: their guards in who were injured and drink them and
Speaker 2: they were terrible. So that matchup against the Jets is
Speaker 2: just a brutal mismatch. And it's why I'm actually impressed
Speaker 2: with how mac Jones has played this year. On balance,
Speaker 2: like he's six in the league in completion over completion
Speaker 2: percentage over expected. I think he's done well enough with
Speaker 2: what he has and they don't have an explosive element.
Speaker 4: I would say it's almost as big of a mismatch.
Speaker 2: The other way, maybe it's bigger because, yeah, the Patriots
Speaker 2: aren't quite as good upfront, but they're good, and the
Speaker 2: Jets offensive line is struggling. And more importantly, they have
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson as their quarterback, who against Belichick has just
Speaker 2: been a total disaster fifty percent completion percentage, two touchdowns
Speaker 2: and four starts, seven interceptions, and he just hasn't gotten
Speaker 2: it done. So it's gonna be a defensive game. It's
Speaker 2: hard to imagine it won't. It's a very Belichick game.
Speaker 2: We're here at the end of Belichick's career. You can
Speaker 2: get the greatest hits of all of this, his Browns game.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like his Brown's career, his Jets defensive coordinator,
Speaker 2: his Patriots, it's just like ugly defense.
Speaker 4: That's what we'll see.
Speaker 1: They like.
Speaker 3: If the Patriots were to fall to zero to three,
Speaker 3: I would spend a morning listening to WEEI because I
Speaker 3: think that they're gonna have a meltdown situation like you
Speaker 3: just don't. We're in New territory. If that were to
Speaker 3: happen to them that said, I mean, this is a
Speaker 3: good spot, I think for the Patriots because Bill Belichick
Speaker 3: feasts on quarterback situations like this where you're just hoping
Speaker 3: and it's like it gets dull to just keep talking
Speaker 3: about Zach Wilson's inefficiency and inability. It's like, I'm not
Speaker 3: trying to go down that road. But it's just that
Speaker 3: outside of Breese Hall and maybe like you can get
Speaker 3: two games in a row. There's been a scoring strike
Speaker 3: to Garrett Wilson last week that was like mainly the
Speaker 3: only positive thing that Zack Wilson did for the most part.
Speaker 3: You get one of those and you get a ton
Speaker 3: of Breese Hall. Like this game feels like fourteen to
Speaker 3: tend to me or something like that, and I really
Speaker 3: I think this thing. You still have the strength of
Speaker 3: the deep Jets defensive line that comes at you in waves,
Speaker 3: and it's like they kind of got it taken to
Speaker 3: him on defense last week. That was as surprising as
Speaker 3: anything else that's happened in the Jets this season, was that,
Speaker 3: you know, Dak Prescott opens I think thirteen for thirteen.
Speaker 3: They're totally efficient and everything you thought you could count
Speaker 3: on from New York on that side of the ball
Speaker 3: didn't really show up. It was more like the big
Speaker 3: plays they didn't make on defense that kind of separated
Speaker 3: that game early. So I don't know. The Jets are
Speaker 3: in a tough spot. You got to be almost you
Speaker 3: gotta hope that this quarterback doesn't make a key mistake.
Speaker 3: Except it's one of the most reliable things happening on
Speaker 3: a weekly basis in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I think last year's matchups, it could be something similar,
Speaker 1: and that still sits. It sits with me in a
Speaker 1: way that annoys me. That they had a pick six
Speaker 1: of mac Jones late in the first half in their
Speaker 1: first matchup of the medalands yea last year that would
Speaker 1: have had him up seventeen to three at a halftime.
Speaker 1: It got taken off the board on a bogus roughing
Speaker 1: the passer call. The Patriots ended up winning that game.
Speaker 1: Then the next time they meet in Foxborough, it's a
Speaker 1: defensive stalemate, Neither offense can move a yard and the
Speaker 1: Pats went on a walkoff hunt return at the end
Speaker 1: of regulation. And I think you're gonna see it again.
Speaker 1: I think both quarterbacks will struggle. I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: have a low scoring game. But now this is where
Speaker 1: the Jets in you know, year three of Sala, year
Speaker 1: two of this young nucleus on d they gotta win
Speaker 1: a ball game. Like I talk about about Justin Herbert,
Speaker 1: this Jets defense needs to make the plays because I
Speaker 1: think the Patriots, even their running game the Pats, which
Speaker 1: we we look at Ramandra Stevenson like that hasn't gotten
Speaker 1: going yet.
Speaker 6: It is.
Speaker 1: It is the Jets defense. After again getting humbled by Dallas,
Speaker 1: they this week. They You could not have more boltin
Speaker 1: board material for a Patriots team that's won twenty two
Speaker 1: of the last twenty four meetings in this quote unquote rivalry.
Speaker 1: You got to kick the ass of the Patriots offense
Speaker 1: and score score on defense and win seventeen to three.
Speaker 1: That's it's time to show. That's if this is a
Speaker 1: team that's gonna survive and be matter in December. There
Speaker 1: is no messing around here. You beat a very mediocre
Speaker 1: Patriots team and you keep moving the checking.
Speaker 2: If it was the lowest over under of the week,
Speaker 2: it is Patriots two and a half points on the road.
Speaker 1: Does that surprise? But I know that everyone's out on
Speaker 1: the Jets now, and I get it. But Pat's favored
Speaker 1: on the road.
Speaker 2: It's like a little surprising, but I think that's reflecting,
Speaker 2: Like I don't know if the numbers totally say it
Speaker 2: yet or not, but I think it's might be reflecting. Yes,
Speaker 2: the Patriots are zero and too, but you still think
Speaker 2: they're a better team than they were a year ago.
Speaker 2: And that team was able to beat Zach Wilson twice.
Speaker 2: So I think it's just that feeling of Zach Wilson.
Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to Christian Gonzales on Garrett Wilson.
Speaker 2: We'll see if he actually travels with him. But Christian
Speaker 2: Gonzalez off to a really nice start as approach. Not
Speaker 2: saying he's like Sauce Gardner or anything, but we got
Speaker 2: they got a first round cornerback.
Speaker 4: He looks like a good pick and that'll be a
Speaker 4: fun match.
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep moving. Greg gets back to you.
Speaker 2: I am gonna take the late game that I want.
Speaker 2: It's not a great late slate, but I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: Panthers at Seahawks just because I want to watch my
Speaker 2: boy Gino live and in person. That won't be in person.
Speaker 2: I'm excited. The Seahawks are favored by six. Now you
Speaker 2: want to do a second take that line moved up,
Speaker 2: I mean four h five.
Speaker 4: That's a disappointment too. I don't care.
Speaker 2: It's the game I want to watch. I want to
Speaker 2: watch the Seahawks against this Panthers defense. I think it's
Speaker 2: a game the Seahawks, if they have taken any steps
Speaker 2: forward from a year ago and certainly from week one,
Speaker 2: should be good enough to slow down a Panthers attack
Speaker 2: that's probably starting Andy Dalton. And it's maybe it's just me,
Speaker 2: but personally as someone who wants the Seahawks to win
Speaker 2: this game because I'm locking them up, I'm not.
Speaker 4: Gonna building up.
Speaker 2: I actually feel less good about this with Andy Dalton
Speaker 2: starting than Bryce Young. I don't think that's that crazy
Speaker 2: to say. I just think at this point in their careers,
Speaker 2: Andy Dalton will get the ball out a little quicker
Speaker 2: with a bad offensive line in front of him.
Speaker 4: He's just been in the NFL a long time.
Speaker 2: And Bryce Young, I don't think it's been bad, but
Speaker 2: he's been out with his ankle injury, and there's just
Speaker 2: a lot to ask of a rookie quarterback. I actually
Speaker 2: give Dalton a better chance, kind of like when he
Speaker 2: played for Justin Fields when Fields was a.
Speaker 4: Rookie a couple of years ago in Chicago. It's like, oh,
Speaker 4: actually they were a little better with ault.
Speaker 1: What's the spread on this one?
Speaker 4: It's six now.
Speaker 1: And the other one you were hunting was maybe at
Speaker 1: the Bengals were starting their backup quarterback.
Speaker 2: Yeah, although the Rams are understand how Craig's winning these trophies,
Speaker 2: who's starting?
Speaker 4: Are we really counting this?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 2: You took the Chiefs in week one and you got
Speaker 2: a big freaking out on it.
Speaker 4: You took the Seahawks in week one.
Speaker 2: We were the exact same favorites that I took a
Speaker 2: lower Falcons three point favorites.
Speaker 1: Very brain, you were honking there?
Speaker 3: Have you taken both Super Bowl teams back to back
Speaker 3: week one? In week two?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's come down.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what have you done besides lous
Speaker 1: relentlessly and I've lost.
Speaker 3: I've been just it's been one l out to the next.
Speaker 3: I'm not really critiquing. I was more asking a question.
Speaker 1: But maybe maybe none of us have covered ourselves in
Speaker 1: glory so far. But Greg, we see how taking these
Speaker 1: trophies home.
Speaker 4: What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: If we could add up the points spreads in the
Speaker 2: our three games, and they'd be the samer years would.
Speaker 1: People are very it's very hard to get you mad, Greg,
Speaker 1: but this, for some reason, I always gets you and
Speaker 1: I love it well.
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 2: It's because it's a game that at first, like didn't
Speaker 2: have any rules, and I always thought it's a stupid
Speaker 2: game if it if it doesn't have rules, like you
Speaker 2: have to look at the mirror, we have a rule,
Speaker 2: I'd be all four changing the rules and putting the number.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'd.
Speaker 4: Say, you say it's under five or whatever, but if
Speaker 4: you really want.
Speaker 1: The only thing I'm saying this is smart. It's savvy
Speaker 1: because the spread will probably go out of the lock
Speaker 1: zone once they officially named Dalton Starter.
Speaker 4: No it already.
Speaker 2: I was surprised because, like I said, I think Andy
Speaker 2: Dalton gives them a much better chance to win.
Speaker 4: Maybe not much, but a better chance.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: And I think it went from five and a half
Speaker 3: to six with that news. Cool Andy Dalton played well
Speaker 3: last year, Right.
Speaker 1: Cool with your lock, Greg, I'm just having fun that so, I.
Speaker 4: Mean it's fun to get fired up. I think that's good.
Speaker 4: I will never take it personally it's this game.
Speaker 3: I've bet you'll take it, Barry, you will definitely take if.
Speaker 4: I win four out of five, I'm taking it out.
Speaker 1: The three of us and there's a vote. It's a
Speaker 1: bad SI, it's a tough all right. Anything else in
Speaker 1: this game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, let's give the Panther Panthers.
Speaker 2: How about a bad offensive line versus a really bad
Speaker 2: Seahawks pass rush. So I'm a little concerned about the
Speaker 2: Seahawks defense. That kind of just erases both, right, So
Speaker 2: I'm I can't can you get can you get something done?
Speaker 1: Here? One?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 3: I think I feel like Frankie Lulu every time I
Speaker 3: watch the Panthers. He's doing something, he's.
Speaker 2: Wild and when he misses his tag team partner Shack Thompson,
Speaker 2: Jacy Horn is still out there. Their front line is good.
Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting last year. They're the number
Speaker 2: five overall pick. Devin Witherspoon was very much like the
Speaker 2: main character of Seahawks Lions for about three quarters in
Speaker 2: that game. Made a couple of big plays that ended drives,
Speaker 2: but was relentlessly picked on by Jared Goff and the
Speaker 2: Lions offense, and really struggled for the most parts I'm
Speaker 2: just someone to watch.
Speaker 1: I have a wild take. By the way, First of all,
Speaker 1: this is your chance before we move on, Mark to
Speaker 1: get a shotgun blast off on the head coach of
Speaker 1: the Panthers.
Speaker 3: Well, I want to see what he does with with
Speaker 3: Andy Dalton. I just think their offense has been vastly
Speaker 3: unimpressive and not very watchable. That's not the calling card.
Speaker 1: I feel like POD's been a little hot last week
Speaker 1: or so with everything as the coach's fault, Like what
Speaker 1: is he working with really right now?
Speaker 3: An inexperienced young quarterback who is also the first overall pick, but.
Speaker 1: Like Adam Feelen, is a primary receiver in this offense.
Speaker 3: Like it's not a bounty of weapons. I don't think
Speaker 3: anyone's saying it is.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Frank Braich should be absolved if the
Speaker 1: offense stinks this year or the team is bad. But
Speaker 1: I don't know. The players play the games.
Speaker 4: I'm with you to I wanted to give it.
Speaker 2: It's my thing with him in this team is I
Speaker 2: want to evaluate a new situation like this over time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I expected this team to be bad. It's why
Speaker 2: I mean I was gonna lock. I locked against in
Speaker 2: Week one. I meant to last week. Remember I was
Speaker 2: saying Saints, but I flipped off it. But they lost it,
Speaker 2: and I'm doing it. I'm just as long as they
Speaker 2: stay in the lock zone Anti.
Speaker 1: Panthers Seattle take by the way, next time Tyler Lockett scores,
Speaker 1: and trust me, Tyler Lockett's going to score as long
Speaker 1: as his body is willing because he's a very good,
Speaker 1: maybe the most underrated receiver of the last ten years.
Speaker 1: Go it out there. Tyler Lockett watched closely. Doesn't know
Speaker 1: how to spike it football. Okay, go check out the
Speaker 1: footage of his first touchdown. He had to walk off.
Speaker 1: Of course, he grabs it and I imagine his hands
Speaker 1: are probably larger than average, but when he does the windmill,
Speaker 1: it's almost like it's coming out of his hands, and
Speaker 1: then he doesn't. You can't bring it down with any
Speaker 1: level of ferocity, and it just kind of it underwhelms
Speaker 1: as a spike. He seems like someone that it would
Speaker 1: be a value add for him and his brand to
Speaker 1: change his touchdownsal.
Speaker 3: Have you have you tracked and gone back through previous
Speaker 3: seasons and campaigns.
Speaker 1: Well, the reason why you know we followed him for
Speaker 1: his whole career now, and when he did it, when
Speaker 1: I was watching two days ago, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's always doing that. It's always kind of an uninspiring spike.
Speaker 1: Last thing is how many more? Andy Dalton starts a
Speaker 1: we're gonna get how many? Ever, ever, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: enjoy this twelve. I'm always like the glowing ginger man.
Speaker 1: All right, Mark, you're up. You think there will be
Speaker 1: twelve more? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think he'll play beyond this season and do some patchwork.
Speaker 3: You know, all these half these quarterbacks get lost to
Speaker 3: the news.
Speaker 1: Perhaps.
Speaker 2: I hope Bryce Young getting hurt is not like a
Speaker 2: recurring thing.
Speaker 4: But we'll see. It's just an English little weird that
Speaker 4: they can't have him run the sneaks.
Speaker 3: Into the game.
Speaker 1: Check out that Tyler Locketts spike video.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna you should you should put that out
Speaker 3: on You should x that and then like, I'll re.
Speaker 1: Exit for you make an ex video? Yeah, got it?
Speaker 4: You well? Post I believe is their official term.
Speaker 3: I'm reaxting.
Speaker 1: What is it? Repost?
Speaker 4: They cannot have the word tweets on it.
Speaker 1: There we can out it does not adhere to our culture.
Speaker 3: This guy, all right, I'm gonna go tight?
Speaker 1: Is it?
Speaker 3: Browns? I Kareem Hunt signed by Cleveland, pinch me.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think, if anything, he knows that he knows the
Speaker 3: system in the playbook. I wonder what kind of shape
Speaker 3: he's in.
Speaker 1: But I had a in my league of record, I
Speaker 1: had a my buddy Greg, one of the guys. That guy, yeah,
Speaker 1: the guy who runs the league. Burger spent his entire
Speaker 1: budget on Jerome Ford. And then Greg, who's had the
Speaker 1: most championship success in our league historically, went in the
Speaker 1: back door and got Kareem Hunt, and then and then
Speaker 1: was patting himself on the back over it, and I said,
Speaker 1: that is a nice pickup, especially you paid four dollars
Speaker 1: or whatever, and Burger paid sixty. But Kareem Hunt, there's
Speaker 1: kind of a reason. Maybe he was unemployed until this
Speaker 1: point and he didn't put a lot on tape, maybe
Speaker 1: even the last couple of years.
Speaker 3: I guess I don't hate that he didn't go through
Speaker 3: a whole preseason and all this stuff. And if he's fresh,
Speaker 3: it's kind of like it'll work. The same thing happened.
Speaker 3: I haven't done fantasy in a million years, but I
Speaker 3: had I got this like waiver, why scenario trying to
Speaker 3: get to room forward get totally banged on, that didn't
Speaker 3: get them, And it's like four in the morning, like,
Speaker 3: oh kareem hunt news, Like I just choped them up
Speaker 3: for free street smart. That's called strategy. That's a good
Speaker 3: that's a solid sound.
Speaker 1: For his son Walker right now.
Speaker 4: I believe someone does have it in that in that league.
Speaker 1: No one did.
Speaker 4: He cares about your fantasy.
Speaker 1: Dam they don't.
Speaker 3: But go on, well, I just you know, it's obviously
Speaker 3: my fanship or fandom with the Browns is you know,
Speaker 3: a strange place. But I felt something on Monday Night.
Speaker 3: I felt agitated to watch what happened to Nick Chubb.
Speaker 3: The way they lost that game. In general, it's kind
Speaker 3: of like this recurring DNA of like, oh yeah, the
Speaker 3: worst possible thing will occur and they can't beat Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: and Pittsburgh and they it.
Speaker 1: Was a lot. It was. It was.
Speaker 3: It wasn't the Monday Night previous. I'm not equating it
Speaker 3: to that. It had some of the same sort of
Speaker 3: horrid energy.
Speaker 1: I would say, if you would allow me, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, the mask slipped. This was really Monday Night
Speaker 1: was the first real post mark divorce with the Browns
Speaker 1: game in a lot of ways, like week ones busy,
Speaker 1: It's Sunday last year was last year with Watson, Monday night,
Speaker 1: your quarterbacks on the field against the Steelers, and everything
Speaker 1: was still there. It's all still there.
Speaker 3: I'm just no, I like it's all still I acknowledge
Speaker 3: that it agitated me because I see actually more potential
Speaker 3: in this Browns team than anyone in a long long time.
Speaker 3: And it's for me, it's stuff they never had before.
Speaker 3: And it's like the thing that isn't changing or going
Speaker 3: away is how deep their defense is and how much
Speaker 3: it seems to be working under Jim Schwartz. And it's
Speaker 3: like this is a crazy game because they can stop
Speaker 3: the run. They can make life very difficult for Ryan Tannehill.
Speaker 3: That offensive line. I think we could go back somewhere.
Speaker 3: We're not gonna get twenty for twenty four from Tannehill
Speaker 3: this time around, not with the way the secondar is playing.
Speaker 3: They're a little banged up here and there Cleveland, but
Speaker 3: I just trust them to inflict damage. But then you've
Speaker 3: got this Titans defense that is nasty against the the Chargers,
Speaker 3: like ran all over the place, on the Dolphins in
Speaker 3: Week one. They were shut down. Last week they didn't
Speaker 3: have Eckeler, But like, I don't think that's the only
Speaker 3: reason that happened. It's because Tennessee remains a nasty, gritty
Speaker 3: team that's gonna be in close games, and I think
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a tough test for Cleveland. I do
Speaker 3: think Jerome Ford the only thing about the cream Hunt
Speaker 3: is Jerome Ford is a good player. Like, I mean,
Speaker 3: we saw it last week and it's like I'm over
Speaker 3: cream Hunt. Repeated they did, and so I think that
Speaker 3: you've got to It's it's been a tough, tough fantasy
Speaker 3: situation because you don't want to know what the work
Speaker 3: will it'll be, but late they can still run the ball,
Speaker 3: and it's like, hey, Deshaun Watson, it's kind of on
Speaker 3: you to give us something different of a sample size
Speaker 3: than what we've seen over like a season.
Speaker 1: He has.
Speaker 3: I heard this on PFF, Like he's been sacked more
Speaker 3: over the last two seasons than Patrick Mahomes and he
Speaker 3: missed twelve games.
Speaker 2: Hey yeah, I it's really on him now the rest
Speaker 2: of the season, but it's really on him in this
Speaker 2: week because the Titans run defense is so good that
Speaker 2: you have to throw the ball against them, and they're
Speaker 2: vulnerable in the back end. They're a little banged up,
Speaker 2: and this is what you pay for.
Speaker 4: And it's funny.
Speaker 2: I actually think Watson's struggles has been weirdly under talked about.
Speaker 2: Like to me, it's one of the biggest football stories.
Speaker 2: Throw everything else out that that like frustrated me, that
Speaker 2: disgusted me about the Shong warning, Throw all that out
Speaker 2: just from a football vantage point. He's so incredibly disappointing now,
Speaker 2: and you've made all these excuses like when are we
Speaker 2: gonna run out of the always been gone for a
Speaker 2: while excuse, like he's had two full training camps with
Speaker 2: this team, Like he was there all last offseason, he
Speaker 2: was there all this offseason. There are thirty four quarterbacks
Speaker 2: who've had two hundred and fifty dropbacks over the last
Speaker 2: two years. He's dead last in EPA per pass, He's
Speaker 2: twenty ninth in success rate, and he just doesn't look comfortable.
Speaker 2: I think he looks better this year. There are some
Speaker 2: quality throws. I don't think he's gonna be the worst
Speaker 2: quarterback in the league, but right now he's somewhere between
Speaker 2: twenty and thirty, and it's like we just keep making
Speaker 2: excuses where guys like Josh Dobbs or Jacobe Prissett they
Speaker 2: come in and they play around the same level right away,
Speaker 2: and he has to be frustrated. Everyone has to be frustrated.
Speaker 2: They have to make the passing game work. I don't
Speaker 2: know how it's gonna be. But he never looked like
Speaker 2: this in Houston. Yeah, his never looked this uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I was, you know, very frustrated if you're a Browns fan.
Speaker 1: And certainly, as we talked about on the sideline, you
Speaker 1: could see with Stefanski some of his pocket awareness, and
Speaker 1: that's an issue. Like the fact that the ball the
Speaker 1: strip and score that is partly because he was he
Speaker 1: didn't feel it. He wasn't feeling it taking that late
Speaker 1: sack when they still had a chance. It was just
Speaker 1: he's not feeling it. Now. The pick six at started
Speaker 1: the game, I don't think that was really on him.
Speaker 1: Maybe the pass could have been better, but that was
Speaker 1: a drop into a pick six. And week one I
Speaker 1: think there was some good things, so I'm not like
Speaker 1: I'm not banging the panic button and and making excuses
Speaker 1: for him, but that also was a pretty tough setting.
Speaker 1: You had Chubb going down in that game.
Speaker 4: Eight games like Taylor Heineke would throw in a heater
Speaker 4: on one.
Speaker 1: But again, game you put a lot more stock into
Speaker 1: last year, Like I'm saying my excuses and in terms
Speaker 1: of Watson and saying, what's up with this guy? Give
Speaker 1: me to the end of the month here, let's see,
Speaker 1: let's see what he looks like after four games. Give
Speaker 1: me a little bit more of a sample size. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he's not he's certainly not carrying the team, and that's
Speaker 1: what they kind of need now.
Speaker 3: And it is it is like I'm with you, Greg
Speaker 3: that it's a huge football story because look at how
Speaker 3: we treated like the sharp decline of Russell Wilson that
Speaker 3: was like a shocking.
Speaker 4: To Josh was the story of the week because he
Speaker 4: had a bad week.
Speaker 3: And I mean there's other Rock Purty comes in off
Speaker 3: the street and plays competent football, and it's like we're
Speaker 3: not even getting like how when is the last game
Speaker 3: where a quarterback had two face mask calls against? Like,
Speaker 3: what's going on with this guy?
Speaker 1: It's like a little man, there's a little bit of
Speaker 1: a Yeah, you definitely could see it what he's not comfortable.
Speaker 2: No, this Titans, you should talk a little Titans that
Speaker 2: look the Taji Spears.
Speaker 1: That thing is happening already.
Speaker 2: It's a it's a the eight snaps to seventy eight
Speaker 2: for Henry tip of the sphere. He's been nice and
Speaker 2: d Hop Hopkins is not Julio Jones there, but he's
Speaker 2: also not yet.
Speaker 1: He's a piece.
Speaker 2: He's not yet the hop from Arizona. That might just
Speaker 2: be a situational think.
Speaker 3: They did get the deep ball going last week. I
Speaker 3: wonder if that's even possible against Cleveland.
Speaker 1: This this smells this weeks of twenty to sixteen. I'm
Speaker 1: taking the seventeen thirteen.
Speaker 3: Titans getting three and a half points in this, all.
Speaker 4: Right, I think that's too much.
Speaker 1: All right, Mark, all.
Speaker 3: Right, I'm taking my late game Dallas at Arizona. So
Speaker 3: that means that stadium will probably be seventy five percent
Speaker 3: Cowboys fans. That seems to happen to the Cardinals on
Speaker 3: a weekly basis. Sounds like Brandon Cooks, who practiced Thursday,
Speaker 3: will finally emerge here. I kind of I've been resistant
Speaker 3: to the whole concept of the Cowboys because I think
Speaker 3: there's this part of me that's like, there's no way
Speaker 3: I can do two weeks of Super Bowl lead up
Speaker 3: if it's Jerry Jones and that in this cast of characters.
Speaker 3: But I'm starting just to give in.
Speaker 1: Because why not, it's been They've been in the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl in twenty seven years.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, I'm beginning to beginning to give into
Speaker 3: the concept a little bit because they look so far
Speaker 3: like the best team in the NFC, like where the
Speaker 3: Eagles are a little not really fully themselves. Yet it
Speaker 3: feels like the Cowboys they got it going on and
Speaker 3: like Dak Prescotte opens thirteen for thirteen last week across
Speaker 3: the field at the same time Zach Wilson and it's
Speaker 3: not a Zach Wilson at nine yards, just that the
Speaker 3: Cowboys came out of came out hot against a pistol,
Speaker 3: a top three defense. Arizona's been really frisky. I watched
Speaker 3: that game closely last Sunday, and guys like Dennis Gardak,
Speaker 3: who has four sacks already, the Barbarian see from like
Speaker 3: Soux Falls or something like that. I don't know where
Speaker 3: it's from, but like he's they've been good on defense.
Speaker 3: They've they've hassled quarterbacks, and Josh Dobbs was frisky that said,
Speaker 3: I just see this to be. This gets to be
Speaker 3: the game where it's like these Cardinals close hanging around
Speaker 3: third fourth quarter. Probably not this time.
Speaker 2: It's a tough ass for the Cowboys. The Cowboys are
Speaker 2: going to come out of these three games probably with
Speaker 2: just an outrageous point differential.
Speaker 3: Well, they have the highest one of their entire franchise
Speaker 3: history since nineteen sixty eight. Right now.
Speaker 2: I thought that Jets game, that first drive was so telling.
Speaker 2: McCarthy at a nice game. Dak had a nice game.
Speaker 2: They knew how to attack that defense. They got rid
Speaker 2: of the ball quickly to kind of mitigate the pass rush.
Speaker 4: But the biggest.
Speaker 2: Play in that game to me was the third and
Speaker 2: six in the red zone to start the game on
Speaker 2: the very first drive, where Dak gets back to the
Speaker 2: top of his drop and the Jets pass rush actually
Speaker 2: won on that play and Dak so decisively just ran
Speaker 2: up the middle. He just looks faster and he looked
Speaker 2: like he made a play he wouldn't have made a
Speaker 2: year ago. And that leads to a touchdown, and you're
Speaker 2: seeing good decision making out of Dak, very very professional
Speaker 2: and you're matching up against some cornerbacks here Kenchroll Clark
Speaker 2: and Marco Wilson, where it's just you're gonna find some mismatches.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess you could look at it a
Speaker 1: couple different ways. But I give credit to Jonathan gan
Speaker 1: In for this team has been competitive in the first
Speaker 1: two weeks, but it could kind of weigh on an
Speaker 1: organization then in the locker room when you have victory
Speaker 1: stolen away from you two straight weeks and now you
Speaker 1: potentially have a buzz sausage, was like the worst time
Speaker 1: to get the Cowboys because they are feeling invincible and
Speaker 1: I think this game is Yeah, this one's got a grizzly,
Speaker 1: grizzly final score attached to it. I believe when we
Speaker 1: talk about it such underdog, certainly.
Speaker 3: Not this week points that's the opposite. Everything is just
Speaker 3: fast for them, right, It's a college spread.
Speaker 4: I love it. They're moving fast, the tempo like everything's fast.
Speaker 1: I thought they again, and I'm a bigger McCarthy fan
Speaker 1: than you guys, but I just thought that entire team
Speaker 1: and Dan Quinn, they were so ready for the Jets
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. And if you if
Speaker 1: you were you're watching that game, Bob sala And and
Speaker 1: Nate Hackett, like, man, they just they just took it
Speaker 1: to us. And they had a quarterback playing at high level.
Speaker 1: And we don't Speaking of Mike McCarthy, who's a Beyonce fan.
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm a fan. I certainly listen.
Speaker 3: Best super Bowl halftime show I've ever seen that. I
Speaker 3: don't know if Greg and I.
Speaker 2: Are in the and that was a huge ye know,
Speaker 2: I was a huge Lemonade guy.
Speaker 4: I am.
Speaker 2: I'm the one person that defends the Carters album, you know,
Speaker 2: the one person I like, I feel like no one likes.
Speaker 2: I was like, I feel that's not got a lot
Speaker 2: of spins, Like I wouldn't say that's.
Speaker 1: High in the streaming. Still, yeah, I'll still I think
Speaker 1: I think Lemonade is one of the great albums of
Speaker 1: the last ten years. Which it's bonkers to me. Eric,
Speaker 1: your your wonderful wife saw Beyonce in Vegas and and
Speaker 1: she doesn't play Lemonade at all on this tour, which
Speaker 1: gets me mad.
Speaker 7: Yeah, my wife mainly had she didn't really have a
Speaker 7: problem with the song selection.
Speaker 1: She had a problem with her the area she was
Speaker 1: sitting in not hyped enough for the You gotta be
Speaker 1: hyped up the Beyonce show long way to get to
Speaker 1: the point that Beyonce is playing at at and T Stadium.
Speaker 1: And of course you asked the head coach of the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: you're going to see Beyonce? No, but my family's going.
Speaker 1: It's a work night. For me. It's a work night, okay.
Speaker 1: And guess who's doing a lot of work right now
Speaker 1: leading maybe the best team in football. It's Michael party Zaddy.
Speaker 3: I'm totally with you. Like I think one of the
Speaker 3: things I like really wondered about.
Speaker 1: Work night Rosenthal focus.
Speaker 3: I don't know what if he could if he would be
Speaker 3: a better play caller than Kellen Moore, And I think
Speaker 3: so far it's like there's.
Speaker 1: No I felt that was super overblown this summer, Like
Speaker 1: the Texas Coast offense is humming right now, baby, I
Speaker 1: big time.
Speaker 2: If they have a season that goes away, it looks
Speaker 2: it's going right now. I will really remember how they
Speaker 2: talked about canceling the joint practices in the training game,
Speaker 2: and we were there.
Speaker 4: We could see it with our own eyes.
Speaker 2: We saw it, guys, where this is the guys that
Speaker 2: they're gonna be a great team. When guys they said that, like,
Speaker 2: we don't want another team to come in here. This defense,
Speaker 2: in this offense, that's the best competition we could possibly
Speaker 2: face every day.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good.
Speaker 4: We don't need anything else.
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3: Oh my sir, they're gonna go to the Super Bowl feeling.
Speaker 1: But think about it. I know the Cowboys and a
Speaker 1: lot of people probably agree with you. It's been almost
Speaker 1: thirty years, and I'll tell you what, we've been too
Speaker 1: much of super Bowls. We're very lucky the Cowboys would
Speaker 1: juice that up and you get the Jarra bus rolling
Speaker 1: all over Las Vegas.
Speaker 4: I've wanted it for for a long time.
Speaker 2: I really wanted a Tony Romo super Bowl back in
Speaker 2: the day. I love those Tony Romo teams. But I
Speaker 2: even that that rookie Dac Year. I thought that would
Speaker 2: have been fun. Let's do it, all right? Fine, this
Speaker 2: team of a No, we cannot you cannot do that.
Speaker 4: I'm not really they.
Speaker 1: Read for them, but it would be all right, Greg,
Speaker 1: you are.
Speaker 2: I see what this little sneak, sneaky guy did over here.
Speaker 2: But what by taking shiks games? I see that corner
Speaker 2: in your mouth going up. He took both the ships
Speaker 2: games three, the two of us are getting three. Such
Speaker 2: as a bad luck dude.
Speaker 4: I respect. I don't mind.
Speaker 1: He took hold on.
Speaker 3: You gotta take the beat, hold on, hold on number one.
Speaker 3: There's nothing, there's nothing like entirely genuine that I would
Speaker 3: pick Falcons Lions, and then I took it and had this.
Speaker 4: He knew I was coming that.
Speaker 1: If you look at it, he has a script replying
Speaker 1: to the criticism. I'm sure with highlighters and everything.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna taken because of I'm I'm strange.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go Broncos Dolphins.
Speaker 2: Actually, that's a fun game Broncos Dolphins on Sunday as
Speaker 2: my second early game. I want to see if Jalen
Speaker 2: Phillips is back in this game for the Dolphins.
Speaker 4: Bradley Chubb was great last week.
Speaker 2: That was against the Patriots offensive bad Ginkle like they
Speaker 2: were much better in terms of their pass rush and
Speaker 2: their defense. Going up against Russ another, you know, potentially
Speaker 2: tough matchup where his offensive line doesn't. When I mentioned
Speaker 2: it wednesday, Mike Muvinchi's really struggled for them. I don't
Speaker 2: see it with Russ right now. There's some great throws,
Speaker 2: but he had those great throws last year in the
Speaker 2: second half of the season two. It's not like he
Speaker 2: was like the worst quarterback in the league. But last
Speaker 2: week there was a sequence where he threw potential interceptions
Speaker 2: on two straight plays. He took two big sacks inside
Speaker 2: the fifteen yard line with the game running down. His
Speaker 2: fumble in the first half turned the game around, and
Speaker 2: it was one of two plays that stuck out with
Speaker 2: me where he was trying to get to the sideline
Speaker 2: and he couldn't quite get it.
Speaker 4: We saw the other one late in the game.
Speaker 2: And so he also missed the slant inside the ten
Speaker 2: yard line with about two and a half minutes ago
Speaker 2: that was just wide open. He hurried it because of
Speaker 2: the pressure. And I don't think things are perfect around him.
Speaker 2: I think the coaching's good, but the protection and the
Speaker 2: weapons are iffy and right now I don't see Russ
Speaker 2: being able to overcome that. And and I think the
Speaker 2: Dolphins could punish him if they have this past week.
Speaker 1: You said he seems like more or less the same.
Speaker 1: I think he's definitely there's an uptick here. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: just the play callings better, a little better. Yeah, whole environment.
Speaker 4: I mean it's a lot of negative plays last week.
Speaker 1: Sure, but he also dropped two beautiful dimes to Marvin Mims.
Speaker 1: He can do that. They you know he is And
Speaker 1: those are money shots. Those are vintage rush shots. You
Speaker 1: can't give a lot of credit for a hail Mary.
Speaker 1: But he put that ball up. He's got, as the
Speaker 1: great TD once said, a sexy deep ball. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was notable. You noticed his inability to get to
Speaker 1: the sideline. I hated the first fumble. He's like calling
Speaker 1: it that he was down by contact instead of scrambling
Speaker 1: to recover the damn ball. That kind of stuff is uh,
Speaker 1: if you're a Broncos fan, he's driving you crazy. And
Speaker 1: and then one thing, there's a bit of a snowball
Speaker 1: thing with Russ in this Broncos air of his career,
Speaker 1: where you saw that game starting to slip away and
Speaker 1: instead of him being able to make big plays, you're
Speaker 1: having those like really ugly three and out drives and
Speaker 1: danger throws and it's just like really so like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think he is maybe just not a
Speaker 1: difference maker at this point. And and that's what they need.
Speaker 1: And that's why again you look at what's Sean Payton's
Speaker 1: decision is going to be made at if they're zero
Speaker 1: and three after this week and they're or they're one
Speaker 1: and six and a few weeks after, this is russ.
Speaker 3: Long for this offense. I mean, I think that we've
Speaker 3: talked about this, that it all along. I think Sean
Speaker 3: Payton is going to be tempted to make a change.
Speaker 3: I mean, it just seems like the there's a little
Speaker 3: bit of frustration between them too. There's this whole like
Speaker 3: I want him to wear the play call in his
Speaker 3: wrist now Russell Wilson doesn't want to do. It's like
Speaker 3: every week Sean Payton is creating a verbal a symbol
Speaker 3: that verbally that there's they're not aligned. And it was
Speaker 3: like that was obviously like this is Miami's gone to
Speaker 3: and O by being on the road, they are now
Speaker 3: in steamy hot Florida and you're taking a team from
Speaker 3: a high altitude Denver, Like that's a little bit of
Speaker 3: a rough trip even just in terms of environment. I
Speaker 3: would say this like Jill and Wattle, a little banged
Speaker 3: up Tyreek Hill, a little banged.
Speaker 4: Up a concussion in practices.
Speaker 3: That concerns me because, like I think when they're there,
Speaker 3: everyone else obviously is just so much more utilized around
Speaker 3: them in the correctly slotted Like you can't have one
Speaker 3: of those guys go. The Dolphins have been like unsolvable
Speaker 3: on offense, and it's kind of like they're a fascinating
Speaker 3: watch to see what team, which defense can kind of
Speaker 3: come in and make life very frustrating for Tua, like
Speaker 3: a number happened a number of games last year, but
Speaker 3: they got out of the gate quickly. The only little
Speaker 3: thing and we noticed this on Sunday Night, Like Tua,
Speaker 3: some of the center quarterback snap exchange has been a problem.
Speaker 3: They fumbled in Week one after a nice long drive
Speaker 3: and like Connor Williams because it was we were gonna
Speaker 3: MGD in the screening room, and it's like you went
Speaker 3: from guard to center, and for us, it's just like cool,
Speaker 3: that's fine that you just play. You're just playing a
Speaker 3: different positions. Like it's kind of like asking Dan to
Speaker 3: come in and not be a podcast host, but like
Speaker 3: run complex Excel spreadsheets, Like it's like it's a new skill.
Speaker 3: You could probably do it.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not your like sitting on this side
Speaker 2: of the table and in someone else hosting.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying like, it's like you're still part of
Speaker 3: the company, but we're changing your position entirely. It's not
Speaker 3: that easy to go play center if you've never done it,
Speaker 3: and there's been problems.
Speaker 1: Let's see the Dolphins last week against the Patriots, a
Speaker 1: top flight defense. Yeah, they still still put up almost
Speaker 1: four hundred total yards and I think this is going
Speaker 1: to be one of those look out.
Speaker 4: They could have more too.
Speaker 2: I feel like the Patriots is mostly unforced errors by
Speaker 2: the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Watch Out six and a half points is the bleeding
Speaker 1: edge of the lock zone. And yet I have Eric
Speaker 1: Roberts telling me there's somebody that wants to chime in
Speaker 1: with something.
Speaker 7: Yes, guys, no video submission this week though, but the
Speaker 7: Westling broad.
Speaker 1: From Cincinnati very quiet.
Speaker 3: It was Snake's birthday yesterday.
Speaker 4: Been that wasn't quiet. That exchanged.
Speaker 7: There was a lot that was a spicy. There is
Speaker 7: talk about you know who's actually making these picks. He
Speaker 7: did say we will be locking.
Speaker 1: Up the Dolphins. Okay, so maybe there's some peace in
Speaker 1: the zoo.
Speaker 3: I would bet there's the need.
Speaker 2: What it looks like a safe pick on paper, But
Speaker 2: I would I would, I would hazard to go back
Speaker 2: to the archives. I don't necessarily think like six point
Speaker 2: favorites have done that much better than three point favorites
Speaker 2: in this exercise.
Speaker 1: It's not that big. You would think if the brothers
Speaker 1: they fight like cats and dogs at the zoo, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a problem. However, they do love each other, and
Speaker 1: I think after the madness of locking up the Jets
Speaker 1: on the road, maybe there was a come to Jesus,
Speaker 1: brother and brother, like give the way.
Speaker 4: It's a cornered animal. Game three. You can't go and.
Speaker 1: Salmon Ary howell when it's time on Thanksgiving a break
Speaker 1: bread and chop it up, Like, no matter what they
Speaker 1: don't see eye to eye on they at the end
Speaker 1: of the day their blood.
Speaker 3: You put the differences behind you.
Speaker 1: Sam's Terry, Nick, Phil, I think it's all peas in
Speaker 1: the pod. Let's take a break and we'll be right
Speaker 1: back with the rest of the draft. All right, we're
Speaker 1: back back to Zeusser. You know, Mark, this is a
Speaker 1: team at the end of the day. And I'm glad
Speaker 1: Greg called you on that because the public should know,
Speaker 1: Like it was one thing to be texting me at
Speaker 1: the vet when my dog's life was hanging the bounce
Speaker 1: about football. I've apologized for that that I could, and
Speaker 1: and Greg trying to earn a living on live television.
Speaker 4: It wasn't so much about what I was doing. It's
Speaker 4: more of the emotional weight.
Speaker 3: We're not going to be a repeat.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing we we we let you off
Speaker 1: the hook for that and said we understand you're a
Speaker 1: complex man and you're an emotional man. But then to
Speaker 1: turn around twenty four hours later and stab us in
Speaker 1: the back. That was a little bit of a need.
Speaker 3: To understand what it is you're accusing me of. I
Speaker 3: would imagine something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Greg, help help.
Speaker 2: Now we're going to have three games while you don't
Speaker 2: because because you took chocks games.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's coming.
Speaker 3: Don't you don't you think that I'm addressing the previous
Speaker 3: issue that we had by creating a more calm uh streamline.
Speaker 3: Sunday is one of those you get messages from me.
Speaker 2: You're not there in the mornings, uh necessarily, but I'm
Speaker 2: going to be there and I do want to COMMERRK.
Speaker 1: Did you just hear what the sociopath said? He's now
Speaker 1: building an entire ecosystem, like building blocks onto See, aren't
Speaker 1: you actually happy that you're doing more work? So I
Speaker 1: won't be crazy.
Speaker 3: I mean, from a certain point of view, I think
Speaker 3: I've made a good point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's been there.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm.
Speaker 4: Impressed the first of all.
Speaker 3: First of all, this is some like.
Speaker 1: Usual suspect stuff going on right now, where like.
Speaker 3: I think there's going to be a you know, a
Speaker 3: branch of the audience that realizes I was just cunning,
Speaker 3: Like you could have blocked me from doing what I've done,
Speaker 3: and I'm not going to apologize for it because it
Speaker 3: was next level.
Speaker 4: There's also a branch.
Speaker 2: It's actually this guy in Chicago, Larry, and he's listening
Speaker 2: for the first time.
Speaker 4: He has no idea what we're talking about, well, no idea.
Speaker 3: Fast forward fifteen.
Speaker 1: So I love it. Mark. I have to say, like, oh,
Speaker 1: old wacky, irreverent Mark. He's doing his own thing.
Speaker 4: But the whole time Falcons lights. First of that, that's interesting,
Speaker 4: and then the old dirty.
Speaker 1: Dog, old dirty Dog is back.
Speaker 3: I did pick games. I want to watch those, so,
Speaker 3: but you're not going to be their next We're getting
Speaker 3: we're getting too far on the weeds here.
Speaker 1: All right, I am up and I will go with
Speaker 1: I need to grab a late game because I have
Speaker 1: so many games i'm responsible for now, the way this
Speaker 1: all happened, I'll grab the Bears at the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: Don't have any other choice. The other two have been taken.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about let's talk about the Bears real quick.
Speaker 1: The Bears. There's some weird stuff going on the Bears.
Speaker 1: So of course we hit on the Wednesday show. Uh,
Speaker 1: Justin Fields coming out and more or less pointing fingers
Speaker 1: and uh and saying that he's thinking too much in
Speaker 1: the pocket, he's not being himself. And he then was
Speaker 1: asked a follow up question and said, yeah, it's the
Speaker 1: kind of the coaching might be the culprit. He obviously
Speaker 1: walks that back once the media blows up, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, this is a big part of being same
Speaker 1: thing happened. If you remember Zach Wilson after a bad
Speaker 1: game last year. Part of being a young franchise passer
Speaker 1: is knowing how to handle adversity and saying the right things.
Speaker 1: It's like an underrated part of the job. And this
Speaker 1: is a hard lesson. Justin Fields is learning in real time.
Speaker 1: Here's Justin Field's trying to put some of the toothpaste
Speaker 1: back in the old tube.
Speaker 5: I love you guys, but you know I get that
Speaker 5: you guys' jobs are to get clicked.
Speaker 1: So it's like, oh, stop it, wait, stop it right there.
Speaker 2: To get no no, no, no, no no there because the
Speaker 2: rest of it actually had no context where I think.
Speaker 1: We're gonna play it, Greg, But I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: like the setup there because right there he's already saying
Speaker 1: it's the media's fault and you turn this into something
Speaker 1: no bud like, I'm gonna listen to it, Greg, But
Speaker 1: when that's the way you set it up, you're saying
Speaker 1: you're the ones that made this a story. I didn't
Speaker 1: really do anything now here. I am clarifying the mess
Speaker 1: that you made. Yeah, and it's again it's an accountability situation.
Speaker 3: Yeah, telling them they just want clicks. It's like kind
Speaker 3: of also saying their entire trade is sort of figure.
Speaker 1: You said you're not thinking, and then you and a
Speaker 1: follow up question said, yeah, the coaching is playing a
Speaker 1: part that was out of your mouth. The media's job
Speaker 1: is to report upon what you say and then give
Speaker 1: it context for all right, let's listen again.
Speaker 5: I love you guys, but you know I get that
Speaker 5: you guys's jobs are to get clicked. So it's like
Speaker 5: when you take my quote out of context, when when
Speaker 5: you just say that, if you paint the picture on
Speaker 5: the inside out, like y'all are trying to split it,
Speaker 5: split us up as a team.
Speaker 1: I'm not blaming anything on the coaches.
Speaker 5: I'm never gonna blame anything on the coaches, never gonna
Speaker 5: blame anything on my teammates. I will take every whatever
Speaker 5: happens in the game, I will take all the blame.
Speaker 5: I don't care it's a drop past, it should have
Speaker 5: been a past.
Speaker 1: Put it on me.
Speaker 5: But never will you hear anything come out of my
Speaker 5: mouth to where I will blame it on somebody else
Speaker 5: in this organization, my teammates.
Speaker 1: Never will you hear that. But he did, he did
Speaker 1: do that, and but it's the media's fault.
Speaker 4: I think I think.
Speaker 2: There's something in between though, too, because the question literally
Speaker 2: prompted him with is it coaching? And and he answered
Speaker 2: it and he said, I think that's fair to point out.
Speaker 2: And I did watch that whole press com and he
Speaker 2: goes on about it, and he says that, and then
Speaker 2: he takes accountability afterwards with saying I need to do
Speaker 2: a better job. So I agree, heed, he does need
Speaker 2: to do a better job answering this question. But it's
Speaker 2: also he wasn't just throwing the coaches under the bus.
Speaker 2: Like the context was. They phrased it in a way
Speaker 2: that said is coaching part of it? And he said yes,
Speaker 2: and he said and I'm also part of it too,
Speaker 2: which is the truth. But I think it's also it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: I think like he should try to get it.
Speaker 1: Take it when you're the quarterback, Greg, I get it, so.
Speaker 4: The franchise in a better way, But I don't think it's.
Speaker 1: Like to take the bullet. Sometimes, even if you don't
Speaker 1: always have, you don't share everything because it causes more
Speaker 1: drama for the team. And I just think it's a
Speaker 1: bad look in terms of accountability to say what he
Speaker 1: said on Tuesday and then the next day come out
Speaker 1: and say it's your fault the media, here's the truth.
Speaker 3: It's like, so that's the thing, Like it's like it
Speaker 3: is fair. I think for some of these players that
Speaker 3: learn this this way by stepping in it that like
Speaker 3: most people aren't going to want to read the full
Speaker 3: entire passage that you said verbally the day before. They're
Speaker 3: going to see the headline. They're gonna think you're hitting
Speaker 3: out at your coaching staff. The Bears are a hot mess.
Speaker 1: So for it was, but he was so.
Speaker 4: But from that.
Speaker 3: Angle, I see what he's saying.
Speaker 4: But he just can't. You just don't don't.
Speaker 3: Do this again. You're buying his version of the I'm saying.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is it's he should have He's it's
Speaker 2: a learning right moment for a twenty four year old
Speaker 2: who answered, and that's who answered the question honestly, and
Speaker 2: also in the same press conference was talking very he's
Speaker 2: kind of opening in his heart of like I'm being
Speaker 2: robotic and I'm going through this like he's struggling through
Speaker 2: it publicly, And you're right, I think you'll learn from
Speaker 2: it not to not to answer in.
Speaker 3: That there's no like long history of Justin Fields being
Speaker 3: anything but a good teammate. And like he said stuff
Speaker 3: like this before, like put it on media, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: He just you can't do this every week. You can't
Speaker 3: be the headline everywhere.
Speaker 1: And I think, but when he's even saying I'm being
Speaker 1: robotic and there's too much going on in my head.
Speaker 1: That was coded language for the coaching staffs is putting
Speaker 1: too much. And then he went out.
Speaker 2: Part of his coaching, which is which matters to me,
Speaker 2: So that part like does matter to me sometimes the
Speaker 2: like there's a fake taking blame for everything. That is
Speaker 2: also as you know, people love it, but when it's fake,
Speaker 2: it's also not helpful.
Speaker 4: It's not honest.
Speaker 1: When I believe it is helpful sometimes, like if the
Speaker 1: Bears have a fireway to do it. If the Bears
Speaker 1: have a fire in their locker room, Okay, I think
Speaker 1: part of the quarterback's job is not to put gasoline
Speaker 1: on that fire and make it more of a public situation.
Speaker 1: Like he needs to do what he needs to do
Speaker 1: behind the scenes to get on the same page with
Speaker 1: the coaching staff, not making a story because that is
Speaker 1: a distraction that causes more drama and that fuels maybe
Speaker 1: doubt in that locker room when the quarterbacks out telling
Speaker 1: the media how he truly feels like and.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna do this every week.
Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm not killing him because he is a
Speaker 1: he's a kid, and he's learning how to be this
Speaker 1: way but the thing, I guess you could say it
Speaker 1: was triggered by but it's just like when he opens
Speaker 1: his his cleanup by saying, you guys did this not me?
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, that's and that's not even the
Speaker 1: only thing that's going on with the Bears. Because Alan Williams,
Speaker 1: after some mystery, he wasn't on the sideline for the
Speaker 1: Bears the defensive coordinator last week, he suddenly resigned as
Speaker 1: their DC, the team announced on Wednesday, And Greg and
Speaker 1: speaking of media and how the sport's covered, there's some
Speaker 1: potentially ugly business about like how people throw things out
Speaker 1: there without any true sources, and there was some things
Speaker 1: going on about the law enforcement rating the Bears complex
Speaker 1: they had to officially deny, and maybe there's more that
Speaker 1: will come out of the story, but as from where
Speaker 1: we are right now, that was all bogus. There was
Speaker 1: some like Dob Kleinman types out there throwing a bunch
Speaker 1: of junk out there and then it caught viral, and
Speaker 1: that was just like an ugly learning lesson I think
Speaker 1: for everyone that just like you got to trust the
Speaker 1: insiders on stuff like this and not necessarily just what's
Speaker 1: floating around the internet. All we know right now is
Speaker 1: it was explained to be a family health issue and
Speaker 1: he's leaving the team. Nothing more than that.
Speaker 3: Big media lesson day for everyone yesterday. A lot happening
Speaker 3: right and there.
Speaker 1: There might be class to Northeastern You.
Speaker 4: The more to this story.
Speaker 2: That is a completely different story than the bogus rumors
Speaker 2: that were out there.
Speaker 4: That wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 2: It has been a strained situation where the Bears reporters,
Speaker 2: the ones you can trust, we're given the clear impression
Speaker 2: it was not a health issue when he disappeared last week,
Speaker 2: and so we don't know what happened here, but he's
Speaker 2: gone from the team, and it just is another indication
Speaker 2: that this organization is spinning its wheels and it's been
Speaker 2: one of the worst, you know, organizations in the NFL
Speaker 2: for a minute.
Speaker 4: And oh, by the way, they're left tackle. They're really nice.
Speaker 2: Surprise rookie pick last year is uninjured reserve now like
Speaker 2: their left guard. So that that, to me, just from
Speaker 2: a football vantage point, was a pretty massive deal for.
Speaker 1: This It's the Chicago Zoo, or you could call the
Speaker 1: Chicago Fire right now. Weird that they named like an
Speaker 1: MLS team Chicago fire because that was a horrific tragedy
Speaker 1: in the history of that city that I.
Speaker 3: Don't think they're pointing to that necessarily, but you're right,
Speaker 3: it's hard to eat. They parallel.
Speaker 4: Maybe they got to be pointing to it. They can't be.
Speaker 4: It's not like they hadn't heard of it.
Speaker 1: But that job by year, it's almost.
Speaker 2: Like they're taking ownership, reclaiming the uh, the fire. Anyway,
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are in this game. Yeah, the Chiefs are
Speaker 2: in the game too.
Speaker 1: Uh. And by the way, football Twitter or football Ax
Speaker 1: does have a lot of videos out there of justin
Speaker 1: fields with like open Ric is just sitting there and
Speaker 1: we're talking about that he's not making the reads and
Speaker 1: he said he's gonna open it up. That's an interesting
Speaker 1: reason to watch this game. Do we see just I
Speaker 1: think we're gonna see him runing football a.
Speaker 3: Lot four yards last year to that and hopefully he
Speaker 3: can stay healthy.
Speaker 1: And the Chiefs, I think there's something here Gregy like
Speaker 1: the offense week one and so he's a little funky
Speaker 1: in the Detroit and the drops and missing Kelsey. But
Speaker 1: week two they could not get it going in Week
Speaker 1: two either on offense, so they can have a breakout.
Speaker 1: This seems like a great setup for it.
Speaker 2: If they don't put up thirty plus in this game,
Speaker 2: something's seriously wrong.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's one of the reasons I love this job.
Speaker 2: Like the Chiefs coming back this year, like you would
Speaker 2: think there's a lot of carryover, but these teams really
Speaker 2: do change.
Speaker 4: The defense is different. They've given up twenty three points
Speaker 4: combined in two weeks against the Jaguars and the Lions.
Speaker 4: Fourteen against the Lions offense, nine against the Jaguars. Chris
Speaker 4: Jones looked amazing. Their linebackers are great. Lajerius Sneid weirdly
Speaker 4: as the one guy struggling. He doesn't look right.
Speaker 2: So their defense, this I think, is going to be
Speaker 2: the best defense of the Patrick Mahomes era, and yet
Speaker 2: through two weeks it's clearly the worst offense he started
Speaker 2: ninety six games. Chiocopatia of The Ringer pointed this out.
Speaker 2: Last week's start was ninety six out of ninety six
Speaker 2: in success rate of any start he had, and the
Speaker 2: first game Week one was ninety second out of ninety six.
Speaker 2: So two of the worst offensive games of the Mahomes era.
Speaker 1: What's worse about the offense from last year. I think,
Speaker 1: first of all, like the enemy's gone, but he didn't
Speaker 1: call the plays.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's to be enemy thing. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think that's it's going to take time. But they tackled.
Speaker 3: You were hoping Kadarius Tony was going to be a
Speaker 3: so called number one wide out. They don't have that guy,
Speaker 3: like you're You're.
Speaker 2: They didn't have that last year either, right, Juju was valued.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a little much to put this
Speaker 2: on Juju.
Speaker 3: It's not so much like the parts they had last
Speaker 3: year this year, but like he spread it to a
Speaker 3: different people.
Speaker 1: I think I think we got maybe a fifty Burger's great.
Speaker 2: I think they'll be okay, But I think it's okay
Speaker 2: to at least believe that by the end of the season,
Speaker 2: maybe they're not that you of old and that they're
Speaker 2: trying to win in slightly different ways where they're like
Speaker 2: the sixth best offense but the ninth best defense, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like that they're not this unbelievably
Speaker 2: other worldly offense.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of what I thought last year was
Speaker 1: going to be. And then Mahomes put up some of
Speaker 1: his greatest numbers ever with an otherwise pedestrian offense. So
Speaker 1: that's what I mean, Like, what has changed? You still
Speaker 1: have Andy Reid, still have Pat Mahomes, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the tackles need to be better. I'm you know what,
Speaker 1: it's a fifty Bokay.
Speaker 3: It's September twenty first, I'm nothing to get too concerned.
Speaker 1: About the Chicago Bears going to Arrowhead to try to
Speaker 1: fit and the Chiefs are like trying to figure themselves
Speaker 1: out what a get right spot for that offense? All right?
Speaker 1: That leads back to me again, doesn't it. It is okay?
Speaker 1: And by the way, credit to WGN TV on that
Speaker 1: fields video.
Speaker 4: Did we mention the Chiefs are twelve and a half favorites.
Speaker 1: That is a lot of wood to lay the other game.
Speaker 1: I gotta grab another one, thanks Mark. The Saints at
Speaker 1: you after, Yeah, Saints at Packers kind of like it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a fun one.
Speaker 1: Saints getting two in this one. I like the Saints more.
Speaker 1: I liked our car Moore. I think they're interesting. They're
Speaker 1: running now, they're there. Depth chart in the is getting
Speaker 1: tested more because Al mcquarter is one game left on
Speaker 1: the suspension and now Jamal Williams. I think he's got
Speaker 1: a hammy that it doesn't maybe look so hot.
Speaker 4: Sounds like it might be a multiple weeks for him.
Speaker 1: Wolf, So you're gonna not have much of a running
Speaker 1: game here now. The Packers famously struggled mightily stopping the
Speaker 1: run against the Falcons in Week two, but I don't
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be as big of an issue. I
Speaker 1: do want to see the Packers. Are we going to
Speaker 1: get healthy? Are we having our guys back yet? Christian
Speaker 1: wattson Aaron Jones, because I think that's gonna make a
Speaker 1: hell of a dividence. And I've been very interested in
Speaker 1: the quarterback Jordan Love so far. What would he look
Speaker 1: like with a full compliment against a defense?
Speaker 3: I guess I guess what like you could say is
Speaker 3: sort of a quiet positive about not having like Watson
Speaker 3: in there early on, is that Jayden Reid I thought,
Speaker 3: has looked really good. Dontavian Wicks is making plays for them,
Speaker 3: like there's such a young offense. We've talked about that
Speaker 3: a lot on NFL Plus on Money when we looked
Speaker 3: at that Falcons game. You're not gonna have to deal
Speaker 3: with b John Robinson in this situation. I think Green
Speaker 3: Bay's defense uh got worked over last week by that
Speaker 3: ground game. But I see things to like and it's
Speaker 3: like we're in another universe. Kway Walker has like multiple
Speaker 3: scores this season versus having dropped that what all these
Speaker 3: their little mistakes last week ritters you know, to two
Speaker 3: balls that absolutely should have been picked off. One of
Speaker 3: them should have been a pick six, if not both,
Speaker 3: Like that game is entirely different.
Speaker 2: Despite missing their four of their best players on offense.
Speaker 2: I think that, yeah, it's almost been undersold how efficient
Speaker 2: they've been without those players.
Speaker 3: I think, especially when like the there was a terrible
Speaker 3: sack on Jordan Love that you can track right back
Speaker 3: to the absence of David Baktiori. The ground game with
Speaker 3: Dylan was a mess, and that goes right back to
Speaker 3: the absence of Jones. So if you get these guys back,
Speaker 3: and if you get Watson back at wide receiver, it's like,
Speaker 3: I think we barely even started to see what Green
Speaker 3: Bay can do. And like I'm on board with Jordan Love,
Speaker 3: like it's not perfect, but like this is we of
Speaker 3: all the scenarios we could have gotten with him six
Speaker 3: months ago. It's like you'd have to be You'd have
Speaker 3: to say. This is a positive start for him.
Speaker 4: No doubt.
Speaker 2: And this is actually his first Lambeau start, which surprised me,
Speaker 2: but all his starts have been on the road. I
Speaker 2: think this is fourth NFL start. I am intrigued watching
Speaker 2: him because just physically he's he's in the Josh Allen
Speaker 2: hype and he's not that kind of runner, but just
Speaker 2: the arm strength and the physicality.
Speaker 4: I love the way he runs.
Speaker 2: He kind of looks like Aaron Rodgers on some of
Speaker 2: the it's like he's been watching him when he's running
Speaker 2: to the right and everything. I guess mean he's a
Speaker 2: you can see why he went in the first round
Speaker 2: this fite not being the most accurate quarterback. So he's
Speaker 2: a fun watch and he's been getting protected quite well.
Speaker 2: We'll see if that happens this week. In terms of
Speaker 2: things change, I mentioned it with the Chiefs, like this
Speaker 2: lion or the Saints defensive line to me is much
Speaker 2: better this year than they were a year ago. You
Speaker 2: still got Cam Jordan who just refuses to age. It's
Speaker 2: got a podcast by the way on NFL Media now them.
Speaker 4: And he's still like he refuses to age.
Speaker 2: But the two guys that have been added to the
Speaker 2: mix in terms of their impact. Brian Bresci, a somewhat
Speaker 2: surprising first round pick to me, is really playing well
Speaker 2: at defensive tackle for them, looks like a nice fine
Speaker 2: anything else. I think both these fan bases are really
Speaker 2: optimistic and like think their team is much better than
Speaker 2: the national consensus, and they both might be right, and
Speaker 2: so I think it's an interesting matchup for that that
Speaker 2: if you're looking for a surprise team in the NFC
Speaker 2: to be like what they're in the divisional round or
Speaker 2: what they're in the conference championship, I think these are
Speaker 2: two pretty nice candidates.
Speaker 1: Very nice. Okay, Mark, do you want to Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: we should talk. Maybe could take one of these early
Speaker 1: games off my hands so we have the top coverage
Speaker 1: possible for audience.
Speaker 3: We'll discuss that a later time, because it's.
Speaker 1: About the audience in the end, you know, and the
Speaker 1: product that we can give them.
Speaker 3: We'll talk, we can discuss that. I'm not sure I
Speaker 3: fully buy into that concept at all, but don't know.
Speaker 1: This is this is the best part of the show.
Speaker 4: Greg, Greg you're up, all right, I'm gonna take Tech
Speaker 4: Texans Jags.
Speaker 2: You know, I think that's three out of three weeks
Speaker 2: that Chris Myers and Robert Smith is calling the third
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 5: Game.
Speaker 4: Slave if you have three games, that's the third one.
Speaker 2: Texans Jags would be better if if the Texans were healthier,
Speaker 2: But they lost Derek Stingley to a hamstring injury in
Speaker 2: practice in practice, like these injuries happen in practice too,
Speaker 2: and it sounds like he might be out multiple weeks.
Speaker 4: Jalen Petree still has that chest injury.
Speaker 2: They might get Justin Reid back, but that secondary I
Speaker 2: was so excited about they gone their offensive line.
Speaker 4: Marks talked about plenty.
Speaker 2: They gone like they've just had They've been hurt by
Speaker 2: injuries as much as any team in the league, and
Speaker 2: they're not a team that can afford that. But I'm
Speaker 2: still excited to watch the two quarterbacks in this game.
Speaker 2: I want to see Trevor Lawrence bounce back from from
Speaker 2: a down week from him and really that whole offense,
Speaker 2: and I want to see if Stroud can keep it going.
Speaker 2: Because you talked about lipstick on a pig earlier. Dan,
Speaker 2: if you've got a rookie quarterback that's showing some promise,
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, it's fine if you're the one of
Speaker 2: the three worst teams in the league again for the
Speaker 2: third straight year under Nick Cassira, Like it almost all
Speaker 2: doesn't matter if CJ.
Speaker 3: Stroud's looking good and he does, I mean he if anything,
Speaker 3: is just producing, Like I'm not in love with Like
Speaker 3: I was so high on Damian Pierce coming into the year,
Speaker 3: and like their ground game has been a mess. Laramie
Speaker 3: Tunzel practice Thursday. Has that knee situation that's needed. I mean,
Speaker 3: their offensive Linechlok's strength has been hit by that injury
Speaker 3: bug in a huge way. Jacksonville, Man, they should have
Speaker 3: beaten the Chiefs a week ago, Like it's that.
Speaker 1: Those A lot of people said that the last five
Speaker 1: or so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but those two but those two like end zone
Speaker 3: passes where it's like an inch difference, and you've beaten
Speaker 3: the Chiefs and it would have been a massive victory
Speaker 3: for the franchise. I still think they're one of the
Speaker 3: AFC's better teams. Uh, Like it was a bit of
Speaker 3: a down performance for Trevor Lawrence, but like their defense,
Speaker 3: which I thought was a massive weak spot, did pretty
Speaker 3: well against the Chiefs. They should have won that game.
Speaker 2: You gotta take care of business here. It's like a
Speaker 2: division matchup. Is this the one where the Texans would
Speaker 2: always beat the Jaguars again and again and they finally
Speaker 2: ended that I believe late last year because it doesn't
Speaker 2: really make any sense.
Speaker 1: Here, right What have we got for the spread on those.
Speaker 3: Nine points for the Texans. No one's buying into that concept.
Speaker 2: It's disappointing because you wanted to see what Demigo Ryans'
Speaker 2: impact could be, and I think it's a little hard
Speaker 2: to evaluate based on the injuries that they've had for
Speaker 2: him to be asked to do it with all these backups.
Speaker 2: Offense will be though. I think I like their coordinator
Speaker 2: so far. Bobby's look like it looks like an offense.
Speaker 2: It makes some sense.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay. By the way, if you're that's your game, Greg,
Speaker 1: count how many times when Fox goes to commercial break
Speaker 1: if they play a classic rock song. Okay, clock how
Speaker 1: many times Rob Robert Smith goes, oh yeah, a little
Speaker 1: lead Zepp or oh little zz Top on a Sunday.
Speaker 2: You are not into his performance on the I mean
Speaker 2: it's I gotta be listening to it on my my
Speaker 2: third earbud.
Speaker 4: I don't know where I'm putting it.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you where to put it.
Speaker 4: But so we'll see if I hear that or not,
Speaker 4: or if that one's un mute.
Speaker 1: Little Steven Tyler Boston's own. It's like, all right, Rob,
Speaker 1: we get it. You listen to Q one O four,
Speaker 1: all right, one more games.
Speaker 3: Colts are Ravens. We got here, Ravens, Colts getting eight points.
Speaker 1: Watch this game.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'm gonna be zone.
Speaker 4: He watched it is watching some of Marcus actually only
Speaker 4: has one game on.
Speaker 3: I mean you have to say that if I knew
Speaker 3: this morning and I could do literally anything that would
Speaker 3: get under your guys skin to this degree, it's been
Speaker 3: an absolute win, huge victory, great draft.
Speaker 1: Chicken farms just farming things out. Arthur Perdue over here.
Speaker 3: We're feeling good about our draft. The organization is feeling good.
Speaker 4: Kaiser.
Speaker 2: So I think was the better analogy because it's like
Speaker 2: I suddenly looked back at Knicks games and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm matching, and then I look at him and he's
Speaker 2: just got this.
Speaker 1: To Chaz Promonary dropping the coffee cup shattering on the ground,
Speaker 1: it's it's David Eely dropping the coffee cup.
Speaker 3: I think you need to, you know, take a look
Speaker 3: in the mirror on how you strategize.
Speaker 4: What we needed to block you on that. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: let's go.
Speaker 1: Now we know all right, we go, Greg, Now we
Speaker 1: know we know there's treachery afoot every Thursday after you
Speaker 1: can do the same to me next week.
Speaker 3: You know, you do know?
Speaker 1: Now I know. I for so long it was wolf
Speaker 1: pulled over my eyes, But now I understand.
Speaker 3: No Anthony Richardson in this potentially no practice.
Speaker 1: That's such a bummer. I'm so bummed out about that,
Speaker 1: because God, you watch those first two quarters and it's like,
Speaker 1: this is happening. This guy is going to be the
Speaker 1: rookie of the year, and the cults are cults are
Speaker 1: going to hang around and be a fun watch. And
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew's one of the very best backups in the league.
Speaker 1: So I think the Colts can still hang around. But
Speaker 1: Richardson adds that element of there's a certain qua sure, you're.
Speaker 3: Just not going to get from me, and you you
Speaker 3: just against them two games in a row to start
Speaker 3: his career where you're exiting with don't want potentially disturby situations,
Speaker 3: and it's like it's a their offensive line's been better.
Speaker 3: I would say like that was sort of an X
Speaker 3: factor coming into the year because they completely melted down,
Speaker 3: like good players along the offensive line played completely not
Speaker 3: up to their ability a year ago, and it's like
Speaker 3: it's they look better coached. I think they're pretty well
Speaker 3: coached in general. Like I think the stiking thing is working,
Speaker 3: but this game, I'm kind of surprised is still here
Speaker 3: at the end because I think the Ravens are one
Speaker 3: of the more intriguing on offense, one of the more
Speaker 3: intriguing kind of week to week viewings and propositions, And
Speaker 3: like Lamar Jackson looked good to me, just looked really good,
Speaker 3: and like Zay Flowers is absolute difference maker. Odell is
Speaker 3: not practicing this week, We'll see what happens with that,
Speaker 3: but Zay Flowers makes all the difference.
Speaker 2: Is by Lamar to just put that fifty five yards
Speaker 2: on a dime, like without much elevation. He looks so
Speaker 2: good right now. That is what every Lamar fan has
Speaker 2: been asking for. I don't know if it's gonna last,
Speaker 2: but what I mean by that is like this is
Speaker 2: a more of a normal NFL offense, for lack of
Speaker 2: a better word, it's like it's not the Greg Roman offense,
Speaker 2: which worked well and got Lamar on MVP. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that was like a bag of trash or anything,
Speaker 2: but he's getting rid of the ball quickly. He's being
Speaker 2: patient in the pocket when he needs to. He's mostly
Speaker 2: playing from the pocket and making good decisions, but then
Speaker 2: he scrambles when he needs to. He's scrambling plenty, but
Speaker 2: there's not a ton of design runs and that's just
Speaker 2: a nice balance. And you can kind of see how
Speaker 2: he's more mature than he was and he has weapons
Speaker 2: around him.
Speaker 4: So it's it's what we've been asking for. And so
Speaker 4: far as week it was just the Bengals and you
Speaker 4: were like, wow, this is a nice game.
Speaker 1: What you want now? Because Lamar was awesome in Week
Speaker 1: two and he was shifty and he kind of tied
Speaker 1: up the defense and knots and picked up big play
Speaker 1: and the touch on his ball was great. You just
Speaker 1: want to see it week after week.
Speaker 3: I do think so, because it's like this thing, it's
Speaker 3: post Greg Roman, like, oh, they weren't gonna run the
Speaker 3: there was you know, concept that he was going. He's
Speaker 3: talking about throwing for six thousand yards they ran the
Speaker 3: ball for one hundred and seventy eight yards and.
Speaker 4: They didn't have to at the end of a Wig game,
Speaker 4: which was impressed.
Speaker 3: With thirty seven carries and he still had twelve touches
Speaker 3: on Mark Andrews is a huge difference.
Speaker 1: They weren't even on the same page a lot last week,
Speaker 1: but he had the big red zone touchdown. Nelson Aguilar
Speaker 1: is a player on that offense. Nelson Aglar is gonna
Speaker 1: end up with better numbers than Odell.
Speaker 4: That's fine and it and it shows you what a.
Speaker 1: God according to the pay grades. But no, but I
Speaker 1: thought Odell was.
Speaker 2: I don't bit of a stretch, but yeah, this might
Speaker 2: be a good Nelson Aguilar season.
Speaker 4: Pops up every now.
Speaker 2: And they were missing their left tackle, Ronnie Stanley and
Speaker 2: their center Tyler Linderbaum, which was such a huge concern
Speaker 2: going into that game. And then he faced the lowest
Speaker 2: pressure rate of his entire career. So that's that's some
Speaker 2: good coaching, that's some good backups and left tackle with
Speaker 2: Patrick McCarry.
Speaker 4: I here's a hot take.
Speaker 2: Maybe Gardner Minshaw gives the Colts just as much of
Speaker 2: a chance to win better just because the Ravens are
Speaker 2: so thin at cornerback. They lost another one last week.
Speaker 2: They're they're starting slot. Their cornerbacks on paper should be
Speaker 2: really poor, and so could Gardner. Min should take advantage.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Joe Burrow didn't really so I guess
Speaker 2: probably you also, Marcus. I'll just saying that's their weakness
Speaker 2: right now? Is that cornerback and kind of a more
Speaker 2: accurate quarterback take advantage?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: See, I don't think Minshew is a is a big
Speaker 3: step down from a rookie quarterback outside of what.
Speaker 4: Right is totally different, but he's he's played well.
Speaker 1: Like, do you think the Colts would give up a
Speaker 1: conditional third for Gardner Minshew?
Speaker 4: Would they? Would they give the Jets.
Speaker 1: Conditional third? Well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he.
Speaker 1: Comes a second rounder. If the Jets reached the AFC title.
Speaker 3: You've gone and gotten the future at the positions. So
Speaker 3: I think he'd be more sellable than in other situation.
Speaker 2: Come back, come back to us and we'll give us
Speaker 2: a second now, flat up, we'll do it.
Speaker 4: What about us at leach six or seven? Let's just
Speaker 4: see what's shaking up.
Speaker 3: What about Jameis Winston?
Speaker 1: You know, maybe we'll stick a pin in this for
Speaker 1: you're the GM coming up down the line.
Speaker 3: Sure, but I think if you get a Jets meltdown
Speaker 3: this week about Kirk Cousins, I feel like we're the
Speaker 3: only show on Earth that hasn't brought that one up there.
Speaker 1: H and three.
Speaker 3: That you had dreams about Cousins being on the Jets
Speaker 3: way back when I did.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe all right, that is that's it? All right?
Speaker 1: Do we get the spread in there. Gotta get the
Speaker 1: spread in there.
Speaker 3: We mentioned that it was the Ravens are giving up
Speaker 3: eight points.
Speaker 1: I love to know every game. I need that spread.
Speaker 1: Give me that spread every game, all the spreads. We
Speaker 1: are going to be back tonight with the Giants forty
Speaker 1: nine Ers recap Thursday Night Football and then also it's Thursday,
Speaker 1: which means NFL Plus with special guests Colleen Wolf. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a funny.
Speaker 2: Make sure thanks for covering up big, big, big twelfth
Speaker 2: birthday to Ellis Rosy.
Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Elie. Well I know you old be the call.
Speaker 1: M m
Speaker 2: Mm hmm