1 00:00:04,428 --> 00:00:06,668 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football is the production of the NFL in 2 00:00:06,748 --> 00:00:31,668 Speaker 1: partnership with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:22,268 --> 00:00:24,028 Speaker 2: Good Morning Football. 4 00:00:24,868 --> 00:00:27,948 Speaker 3: It was rough for you Steelers fans, Aaron Rodgers and Pittsburgh. 5 00:00:27,948 --> 00:00:32,948 Speaker 3: He threw two interceptions, sacked three times, including this safety. 6 00:00:33,308 --> 00:00:36,388 Speaker 3: Steelers filled to the charges twenty five to ten. Well, yesterday, 7 00:00:36,548 --> 00:00:39,388 Speaker 3: head coach Mike Tollin was asked, but what he thought 8 00:00:39,388 --> 00:00:41,108 Speaker 3: about his quarterbacks play lately. 9 00:00:42,668 --> 00:00:44,588 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna, you know, chalk it up here an 10 00:00:44,588 --> 00:00:47,508 Speaker 4: Auday night, but there are no long term concerns. Sunday 11 00:00:47,548 --> 00:00:50,988 Speaker 4: night was what it was, but I have no long 12 00:00:51,068 --> 00:00:53,788 Speaker 4: term reservations about his ability to play the position and 13 00:00:53,988 --> 00:00:55,868 Speaker 4: play the position at a high level for us. So 14 00:00:55,948 --> 00:00:57,868 Speaker 4: with that understanding, we're going back to work this week 15 00:00:57,908 --> 00:00:59,308 Speaker 4: and we got to put together a better plan. 16 00:00:59,668 --> 00:01:00,988 Speaker 2: We got to make more plays. 17 00:01:01,308 --> 00:01:03,988 Speaker 3: So unfamiliar territory, if heels like for the Steelers a 18 00:01:04,668 --> 00:01:07,188 Speaker 3: go As of late, they lost three of their last 19 00:01:07,308 --> 00:01:10,068 Speaker 3: four games. But as we know, Mike Gee, Mike Tomlin 20 00:01:10,188 --> 00:01:12,908 Speaker 3: likes to say, the standard is the standard. So as 21 00:01:12,908 --> 00:01:14,748 Speaker 3: you look at this, what do you make of the 22 00:01:14,788 --> 00:01:15,708 Speaker 3: Steelers right now? 23 00:01:16,308 --> 00:01:19,708 Speaker 5: Something's bothering me with the Steelers right now, And maybe 24 00:01:19,708 --> 00:01:21,628 Speaker 5: somebody's going to tell me that I'm wrong about this, 25 00:01:21,788 --> 00:01:24,028 Speaker 5: and it's just kind of sort of hyperbole and I 26 00:01:24,068 --> 00:01:27,788 Speaker 5: don't remember five, six, seven years ago whatever. But Aaron 27 00:01:27,868 --> 00:01:33,108 Speaker 5: Rodgers reactions to his own teammates, to maybe himself, I 28 00:01:33,148 --> 00:01:33,388 Speaker 5: don't know. 29 00:01:34,628 --> 00:01:38,748 Speaker 2: There's been a lot of this. It's hilarious, a lot 30 00:01:38,788 --> 00:01:39,228 Speaker 2: of them. 31 00:01:40,308 --> 00:01:42,628 Speaker 5: And I don't love it, right Like, this is not 32 00:01:42,948 --> 00:01:46,828 Speaker 5: He's strongly hinted that this could be his last NFL season. 33 00:01:47,148 --> 00:01:50,148 Speaker 5: He hasn't really closed the door or or solidified that, 34 00:01:50,308 --> 00:01:55,068 Speaker 5: but is this is this with the last vestiges of. 35 00:01:55,308 --> 00:01:57,068 Speaker 2: Land nice guys? Come on? 36 00:01:58,148 --> 00:02:00,868 Speaker 5: I mean the one time where he got knocked over, 37 00:02:01,108 --> 00:02:03,668 Speaker 5: right and he's yelling, that's a different, But this is 38 00:02:03,748 --> 00:02:05,108 Speaker 5: like and I'm. 39 00:02:04,988 --> 00:02:05,868 Speaker 2: Reading his lips. 40 00:02:06,188 --> 00:02:09,188 Speaker 5: Oh yet, well, yeah, I didn't know that one was 41 00:02:09,228 --> 00:02:09,548 Speaker 5: in there. 42 00:02:10,028 --> 00:02:12,428 Speaker 2: They're all in there. We're still so we're not even 43 00:02:12,428 --> 00:02:18,308 Speaker 2: looping this. Yeah, they're new ones, right, Like what And. 44 00:02:18,268 --> 00:02:19,988 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna pretend like I know what's going on 45 00:02:20,028 --> 00:02:21,628 Speaker 5: in his head, but like, I just. 46 00:02:22,228 --> 00:02:24,388 Speaker 2: This leaves me to believe like the whole thing just. 47 00:02:24,348 --> 00:02:27,028 Speaker 5: Not on solid ground right now, Like, come on, Aaron, 48 00:02:27,068 --> 00:02:29,188 Speaker 5: this is your last? This is this should be the 49 00:02:29,268 --> 00:02:33,908 Speaker 5: Derek Jeter, Mariano rivera farewell tour, giving you gifts and 50 00:02:33,988 --> 00:02:36,828 Speaker 5: say waving the opposing fat I don't want this. 51 00:02:36,828 --> 00:02:39,268 Speaker 2: This is I don't know what's going on. Well, here's 52 00:02:39,308 --> 00:02:43,428 Speaker 2: what's going on. This has always been Rogers. It's not new. 53 00:02:43,868 --> 00:02:45,908 Speaker 2: He's just not caring anymore. 54 00:02:46,188 --> 00:02:49,388 Speaker 6: He's always felt that way, Okay, always, This goes back 55 00:02:49,428 --> 00:02:51,508 Speaker 6: to when he was sitting behind far If you felt 56 00:02:51,508 --> 00:02:54,668 Speaker 6: that way, that's Rogers. He just as you get older, 57 00:02:54,748 --> 00:02:56,148 Speaker 6: Mike and you can relate to this, and I'm sure 58 00:02:56,148 --> 00:02:58,668 Speaker 6: in your own life you just don't care anymore. 59 00:02:58,788 --> 00:02:59,788 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be me. 60 00:03:00,348 --> 00:03:02,348 Speaker 6: So that's always been the guy, and he is just 61 00:03:02,468 --> 00:03:04,388 Speaker 6: letting it out where I come out on the stairs. 62 00:03:04,388 --> 00:03:06,028 Speaker 2: What do we make of the five and four Steelers 63 00:03:06,228 --> 00:03:06,628 Speaker 2: right now? 64 00:03:06,748 --> 00:03:08,788 Speaker 6: The state of them and the conversation about them is 65 00:03:08,908 --> 00:03:14,028 Speaker 6: extremely reactive instant on and on NFL news cycle week 66 00:03:14,068 --> 00:03:14,708 Speaker 6: to week to week. 67 00:03:14,868 --> 00:03:16,388 Speaker 2: I'm not going to sit here and say this was 68 00:03:16,628 --> 00:03:18,548 Speaker 2: a great game against the Charge. It was a bad game. 69 00:03:18,668 --> 00:03:19,548 Speaker 2: It was a bad. 70 00:03:19,428 --> 00:03:22,468 Speaker 6: Road trip to California, and they got housed for the offense. 71 00:03:22,508 --> 00:03:23,748 Speaker 2: I thought the defense was okay. 72 00:03:23,948 --> 00:03:25,868 Speaker 6: They held Herbert and Check, they didn't get run all 73 00:03:25,868 --> 00:03:28,068 Speaker 6: over they had, didn't give up any huge runs at all. 74 00:03:28,188 --> 00:03:30,548 Speaker 6: Because remember a month ago, I'm old enough to remember, 75 00:03:30,588 --> 00:03:32,828 Speaker 6: everyone said the Steelers defense was crap. 76 00:03:33,108 --> 00:03:34,228 Speaker 2: But the week to week thing. 77 00:03:34,188 --> 00:03:38,188 Speaker 6: Guys, one week ago, right before the Chargers game, do 78 00:03:38,228 --> 00:03:43,548 Speaker 6: you not remember the Steelers completely housing the sweetheart Colts. 79 00:03:44,068 --> 00:03:48,108 Speaker 6: Jonathan Taylor did nothing in this game. He was completely stuffed. 80 00:03:48,468 --> 00:03:52,188 Speaker 6: Daniel Jones, the story of the year, was completely turned 81 00:03:52,188 --> 00:03:53,908 Speaker 6: inside out by the Steelers defense. 82 00:03:54,228 --> 00:03:56,868 Speaker 2: This was not back in Week two, this week nine. 83 00:03:57,308 --> 00:04:00,148 Speaker 6: Okay, you have to at least give them some equity 84 00:04:00,228 --> 00:04:03,588 Speaker 6: for this game in which the number one story team 85 00:04:03,868 --> 00:04:06,428 Speaker 6: quarterback running back. I thought the Colts had the best 86 00:04:06,428 --> 00:04:08,748 Speaker 6: offensive line in the entire league. Why did Daniel Jones 87 00:04:08,788 --> 00:04:10,868 Speaker 6: have half a second against the Steelers front? All Right, 88 00:04:11,108 --> 00:04:13,708 Speaker 6: if you want to go quick, reactive, hot take on 89 00:04:13,828 --> 00:04:16,188 Speaker 6: most teams in the league, I would say twenty eight 90 00:04:16,188 --> 00:04:19,228 Speaker 6: teams in the league. Fine, the Steelers organization, You've got 91 00:04:19,268 --> 00:04:21,388 Speaker 6: to give them a little bit of equity of Yes, 92 00:04:21,468 --> 00:04:23,468 Speaker 6: that was a bad game, but year after year they 93 00:04:23,468 --> 00:04:25,148 Speaker 6: turn into winning product, and I'm gonna give them so 94 00:04:25,188 --> 00:04:27,388 Speaker 6: much equity. I'm gonna do something that I hate. I'm 95 00:04:27,428 --> 00:04:29,668 Speaker 6: gonna do something that hate. I'm gonna look at what 96 00:04:29,748 --> 00:04:31,828 Speaker 6: do they say? You either die hero or live long 97 00:04:31,908 --> 00:04:34,148 Speaker 6: enough to see yourself become the villain. I hate the 98 00:04:34,188 --> 00:04:35,988 Speaker 6: segment where you put up a team schedule and just 99 00:04:36,028 --> 00:04:37,508 Speaker 6: say win loss, win loss. 100 00:04:37,628 --> 00:04:38,548 Speaker 2: I'm doing it, going. 101 00:04:38,668 --> 00:04:42,668 Speaker 6: It right now, Steelers remaining schedule. I'm going to do 102 00:04:42,748 --> 00:04:45,948 Speaker 6: it all right for Starting in the upper left, the Bengals. 103 00:04:45,988 --> 00:04:48,068 Speaker 6: Remember the Steelers are five and four. They're gonna win 104 00:04:48,108 --> 00:04:50,628 Speaker 6: this weekend. That's the Steelers are six and four. They're 105 00:04:50,668 --> 00:04:53,348 Speaker 6: gonna lose at the Bears. They're gonna lose to the Bills. 106 00:04:53,348 --> 00:04:55,428 Speaker 6: They're gonna lose at the Ravens. That's not good. That 107 00:04:55,468 --> 00:04:57,068 Speaker 6: puts them at six and seven. As we go to 108 00:04:57,108 --> 00:05:00,428 Speaker 6: the right column. But wait, it's the Steelers, it's Tomlin. 109 00:05:00,748 --> 00:05:03,188 Speaker 6: They will beat the Dolphins to get to seven and seven. 110 00:05:03,788 --> 00:05:06,508 Speaker 6: They will lose at Detroit to get to a terrible 111 00:05:06,548 --> 00:05:09,108 Speaker 6: seven and eight. Then they beat the Browns at eight 112 00:05:09,148 --> 00:05:11,588 Speaker 6: and eighth and Baltimore, likely with nothing to play with. 113 00:05:11,668 --> 00:05:14,628 Speaker 6: Unless something miraculous happens, the Steelers win guests with the 114 00:05:14,668 --> 00:05:18,428 Speaker 6: record is Boys and Girls nine and eight, and through 115 00:05:18,508 --> 00:05:21,508 Speaker 6: some sort of tie breaking scenario that may even involve 116 00:05:21,508 --> 00:05:24,468 Speaker 6: an actual tie in somebody's record. The Steelers will be 117 00:05:24,548 --> 00:05:27,788 Speaker 6: in the wild Card round. Take this clip, save this clip. 118 00:05:27,868 --> 00:05:29,908 Speaker 6: That was an awful trip to the Chargers. That game 119 00:05:29,948 --> 00:05:32,108 Speaker 6: did not look good. Rogers are screaming at people. Rodgers's 120 00:05:32,148 --> 00:05:37,268 Speaker 6: missing receivers nine and eight will be there after week eighteen. 121 00:05:37,628 --> 00:05:39,868 Speaker 2: I promise you. I'm saying it live and play it 122 00:05:39,908 --> 00:05:40,388 Speaker 2: back later. 123 00:05:40,948 --> 00:05:43,788 Speaker 7: I'm taking the clip and I'm saving the clip. Not 124 00:05:43,948 --> 00:05:46,948 Speaker 7: for what, not for the win lossleek. 125 00:05:46,548 --> 00:05:49,388 Speaker 2: For what Kyle just did for two days in a row. 126 00:05:49,668 --> 00:05:52,388 Speaker 7: KB just went against everything that we stand for on 127 00:05:52,428 --> 00:05:54,828 Speaker 7: this show, everything that I was taught by that man 128 00:05:54,988 --> 00:05:57,228 Speaker 7: himself of what we do and what we don't do. 129 00:05:57,588 --> 00:06:00,188 Speaker 7: KB in the past two days, in past twenty four 130 00:06:00,188 --> 00:06:03,788 Speaker 7: hours has broken a lot of the GMFB commandments that 131 00:06:03,788 --> 00:06:04,388 Speaker 7: we have on this show. 132 00:06:04,628 --> 00:06:09,228 Speaker 2: So I am so happy right now. Okay, with that. 133 00:06:09,228 --> 00:06:12,908 Speaker 6: Being said, Manti, I'm going to shatter the stone tablets. 134 00:06:12,988 --> 00:06:15,228 Speaker 2: I'm going to do pretenders versus Contenders. 135 00:06:15,628 --> 00:06:18,388 Speaker 6: I'm going to do factor fiction, I'm gonna do X factors, 136 00:06:18,428 --> 00:06:19,588 Speaker 6: I'm gonna do all of them. 137 00:06:19,788 --> 00:06:21,188 Speaker 2: I'm just starting to go nuts right now. 138 00:06:23,988 --> 00:06:35,468 Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I want to go back to somebody that 139 00:06:35,548 --> 00:06:36,308 Speaker 7: Mike g brought up. 140 00:06:36,308 --> 00:06:37,628 Speaker 2: His name is Mariano Rivera. 141 00:06:37,708 --> 00:06:40,308 Speaker 7: For the younger crowd that doesn't know who Mariano Rivera is, 142 00:06:40,348 --> 00:06:42,428 Speaker 7: He's known as one of the greatest closers in Major 143 00:06:42,548 --> 00:06:45,268 Speaker 7: League Baseball. And the reason why I like that reference 144 00:06:45,308 --> 00:06:48,508 Speaker 7: is because when I think about the the Arthur Smith offense, 145 00:06:48,588 --> 00:06:50,708 Speaker 7: there's a lot of talk about how Aaron Rodgers has 146 00:06:50,748 --> 00:06:53,108 Speaker 7: been doing. The thing about it is the system that 147 00:06:53,148 --> 00:06:54,508 Speaker 7: he's in, and he did choose. 148 00:06:54,228 --> 00:06:55,748 Speaker 2: The system, the Arthur Smith. 149 00:06:55,788 --> 00:07:01,068 Speaker 7: This system is designed to close out games. However, it 150 00:07:01,148 --> 00:07:05,348 Speaker 7: does not have the scoring ability to come back from deficits. Guys, 151 00:07:05,348 --> 00:07:09,908 Speaker 7: did you know that Arthur Smith led offense has not ever, 152 00:07:10,508 --> 00:07:12,508 Speaker 7: whether he's been a head coach or a coordinator, has 153 00:07:12,588 --> 00:07:15,508 Speaker 7: not come back from a deficit larger than thirteen points. 154 00:07:16,028 --> 00:07:16,508 Speaker 2: Has never. 155 00:07:17,708 --> 00:07:20,308 Speaker 7: They have not been able to come back from a 156 00:07:20,388 --> 00:07:24,028 Speaker 7: deficit more than eight points with under five minutes left 157 00:07:24,028 --> 00:07:24,508 Speaker 7: in the game. 158 00:07:24,828 --> 00:07:25,788 Speaker 2: How many games. 159 00:07:25,588 --> 00:07:28,068 Speaker 7: Have we seen this year, guys, where there have been 160 00:07:28,108 --> 00:07:30,908 Speaker 7: at least twenty one twenty eight points scored with two 161 00:07:30,988 --> 00:07:35,428 Speaker 7: minutes left. I mean, watching at Cincinnati and Chicago Bears game. 162 00:07:35,868 --> 00:07:37,508 Speaker 7: I don't know how many points were scored in the 163 00:07:37,588 --> 00:07:38,948 Speaker 7: last two minutes of the game, but it was more 164 00:07:38,988 --> 00:07:39,348 Speaker 7: than eight. 165 00:07:39,748 --> 00:07:41,388 Speaker 2: And so when you think about Aaron. 166 00:07:41,188 --> 00:07:43,468 Speaker 7: Rodgers and you think about this offense, and you think 167 00:07:43,508 --> 00:07:46,708 Speaker 7: about the weapons that they have, majority of the weapons, 168 00:07:46,708 --> 00:07:49,108 Speaker 7: since favorite targets are tight ends. Guys, they played mainly 169 00:07:49,268 --> 00:07:52,788 Speaker 7: thirteen personnel, which is one running back, three tight ends. 170 00:07:53,068 --> 00:07:55,508 Speaker 7: So then you add Aaron Rodgers to this equation, you're 171 00:07:55,548 --> 00:07:59,028 Speaker 7: not going to have an offense that's explosive. And in 172 00:07:59,068 --> 00:08:03,148 Speaker 7: twenty twenty five, I can't count on both hands the 173 00:08:03,148 --> 00:08:06,228 Speaker 7: amount offenses that can put up many points, a lot 174 00:08:06,228 --> 00:08:08,228 Speaker 7: of points in a short amount of time. So, yes, 175 00:08:08,428 --> 00:08:10,908 Speaker 7: has Aaron Rodgers seen his struggles, yes, has the offense 176 00:08:11,148 --> 00:08:14,268 Speaker 7: offensive line seeing their struggles. Yes, But when you put 177 00:08:14,348 --> 00:08:17,988 Speaker 7: in the in the grand scheme of what this system, 178 00:08:18,028 --> 00:08:20,988 Speaker 7: this Artis Smith system was designed to do, it doesn't 179 00:08:21,028 --> 00:08:23,188 Speaker 7: help his It doesn't help his case, it doesn't help 180 00:08:23,228 --> 00:08:25,828 Speaker 7: the Pittsburgh students case. And being able to be in 181 00:08:25,908 --> 00:08:27,668 Speaker 7: these games, in these close games, and come. 182 00:08:27,588 --> 00:08:27,988 Speaker 2: Back and win. 183 00:08:28,508 --> 00:08:30,868 Speaker 3: And as you mentioned it, Kyle, you either lived to 184 00:08:30,908 --> 00:08:33,548 Speaker 3: be the hero or you die the villain. Twenty one 185 00:08:33,628 --> 00:08:37,108 Speaker 3: seasons of Aaron Rodgers playing football in the NFL. So certainly, 186 00:08:37,628 --> 00:08:54,268 Speaker 3: a lot of case there to be made. 187 00:08:55,428 --> 00:08:57,028 Speaker 5: Good mom Mom. 188 00:08:57,428 --> 00:08:59,748 Speaker 6: Former NFL defensive bag Logan Ryan. He spent the entire 189 00:08:59,788 --> 00:09:02,468 Speaker 6: commercial break talking with Seth Rollins about a barber that 190 00:09:02,508 --> 00:09:05,228 Speaker 6: they both know who cuts hair in the WWE, in 191 00:09:05,268 --> 00:09:06,988 Speaker 6: the NFL world. That's just kind of the stuff he 192 00:09:07,028 --> 00:09:09,828 Speaker 6: talks about. Logan, what's up, man, what's going on? 193 00:09:09,988 --> 00:09:10,188 Speaker 2: Man? 194 00:09:10,348 --> 00:09:13,708 Speaker 8: Yeah, my barber Drew the barber drew the barber Seth 195 00:09:13,748 --> 00:09:16,308 Speaker 8: and the w W stars. He cuts the ww guys now, 196 00:09:16,348 --> 00:09:19,068 Speaker 8: so he h. I'm not I'm not, you know, famous 197 00:09:19,148 --> 00:09:20,428 Speaker 8: enough to get cut by him anymore. 198 00:09:20,428 --> 00:09:20,908 Speaker 2: I guess. 199 00:09:22,948 --> 00:09:25,668 Speaker 6: He cuts them and Seth cuts promos. That's just it's fine. 200 00:09:25,708 --> 00:09:26,428 Speaker 6: That's how they do it. 201 00:09:26,908 --> 00:09:28,468 Speaker 2: Logan. You have all kinds of things going on, and 202 00:09:28,508 --> 00:09:29,948 Speaker 2: you had an award we're going to talk about. But 203 00:09:29,948 --> 00:09:33,388 Speaker 2: before we get to it, dude, Patriots Bucks. 204 00:09:33,828 --> 00:09:36,268 Speaker 6: You were at the game on Sunday. Pats are on 205 00:09:36,348 --> 00:09:40,068 Speaker 6: a seven game winning streak. This is like the Logan 206 00:09:40,148 --> 00:09:42,068 Speaker 6: Ryan ball. What was your biggest takeaway from watching them 207 00:09:42,068 --> 00:09:42,868 Speaker 6: beat the Buccaneers. 208 00:09:43,068 --> 00:09:45,788 Speaker 8: Drake May is legit. Drake May is absolutely legit. I 209 00:09:45,988 --> 00:09:49,308 Speaker 8: goot the shadow, Jim Nance and Tony Romo because I'm 210 00:09:49,308 --> 00:09:51,348 Speaker 8: a you know, an analyst and a broadcaster as well. 211 00:09:51,388 --> 00:09:53,228 Speaker 8: So I was there to watch the greats do their job, 212 00:09:53,628 --> 00:09:56,028 Speaker 8: but we sat down with them as humble as you 213 00:09:56,028 --> 00:09:59,028 Speaker 8: can get. Rabel loves them. I obviously know Rabel and 214 00:09:59,028 --> 00:10:01,668 Speaker 8: Todd really well. And a big part of Todd Bowles 215 00:10:01,748 --> 00:10:04,988 Speaker 8: is trying to get you know, rookie quarterbackshirt second quarterbacks, 216 00:10:05,028 --> 00:10:08,188 Speaker 8: young quarterbacks off their game. And Drake may you know, 217 00:10:08,228 --> 00:10:10,548 Speaker 8: stood up well. He started slow, but he he ended 218 00:10:11,588 --> 00:10:13,388 Speaker 8: as well as you can end and played as well 219 00:10:13,388 --> 00:10:15,348 Speaker 8: as you can against a Todd Bowles led defense. So 220 00:10:15,988 --> 00:10:19,148 Speaker 8: this this guy's a legit MVP case. I sat down 221 00:10:19,148 --> 00:10:21,108 Speaker 8: with him. He's special. I think New England's got their 222 00:10:21,108 --> 00:10:22,788 Speaker 8: guy for quite a long time. 223 00:10:23,108 --> 00:10:24,988 Speaker 7: Well look, and that's a lot coming from you because 224 00:10:25,028 --> 00:10:27,588 Speaker 7: you not only played against, but you played with. 225 00:10:27,708 --> 00:10:31,388 Speaker 2: Tom Brady bringing in you know, Drake Mayn too. This equation. 226 00:10:31,468 --> 00:10:35,108 Speaker 7: When you look at both quarterbacks, what stands out about 227 00:10:35,228 --> 00:10:37,268 Speaker 7: Drake that kind of reminds you of somebody like a 228 00:10:37,308 --> 00:10:38,268 Speaker 7: Tom Brady. 229 00:10:38,188 --> 00:10:40,308 Speaker 8: Man man toon. That's so that's a huge comparison. This 230 00:10:40,308 --> 00:10:42,308 Speaker 8: this early on. I'm not going to just throw that 231 00:10:42,348 --> 00:10:44,748 Speaker 8: out there that quick, but I would just say and man, tay. 232 00:10:44,828 --> 00:10:48,868 Speaker 8: You know this, it's it's your ability to have resilience 233 00:10:49,108 --> 00:10:51,988 Speaker 8: and to stand up against adversity. And like I said, 234 00:10:51,988 --> 00:10:54,188 Speaker 8: he didn't play well in the first quarter. And you 235 00:10:54,228 --> 00:10:56,588 Speaker 8: know a lot of young players football is easy for 236 00:10:56,628 --> 00:10:58,188 Speaker 8: them a lot of their life and then the NFL 237 00:10:58,268 --> 00:10:59,668 Speaker 8: might be the first time they're hit with some real 238 00:10:59,708 --> 00:11:02,748 Speaker 8: adversity on the field. And his ability to process, his 239 00:11:02,788 --> 00:11:06,388 Speaker 8: ability to kind of rally and play his best ball 240 00:11:06,388 --> 00:11:08,508 Speaker 8: down to stretch was impressive. And also sit down with 241 00:11:08,588 --> 00:11:12,228 Speaker 8: Josh McDaniels, you know, they said that his mental his 242 00:11:12,308 --> 00:11:14,748 Speaker 8: processing powers through the roof. And I know Tom Brady 243 00:11:14,788 --> 00:11:17,228 Speaker 8: was quite the process or the line of scrimmage, checking 244 00:11:17,228 --> 00:11:19,628 Speaker 8: them into the right place. So Drake May has a 245 00:11:19,628 --> 00:11:23,948 Speaker 8: lot of that command. Obviously, Josh McDaniels coordinated for Tom Brady, 246 00:11:23,948 --> 00:11:26,748 Speaker 8: also coordinates and calls plays for Drake May. So he's 247 00:11:26,788 --> 00:11:29,428 Speaker 8: really impressed with his mental and his intelligence. And we 248 00:11:29,428 --> 00:11:31,308 Speaker 8: don't always talk about that about the guy. So he's 249 00:11:31,348 --> 00:11:33,228 Speaker 8: really doing a lot at the line of scrimmage and 250 00:11:33,268 --> 00:11:34,868 Speaker 8: he kind of doesn't get off his game. He kind 251 00:11:34,868 --> 00:11:37,428 Speaker 8: of stays resilient throughout. So those are two most impressive 252 00:11:37,428 --> 00:11:39,188 Speaker 8: things about him. 253 00:11:39,348 --> 00:11:41,828 Speaker 5: Logan after the Bucks lost, Baker Mayfield told the media 254 00:11:41,908 --> 00:11:45,628 Speaker 5: that losing that game should really really hurt for the guys, 255 00:11:46,628 --> 00:11:49,668 Speaker 5: and they face Josh Allen this week upcoming here. So 256 00:11:49,708 --> 00:11:51,748 Speaker 5: how do you, if you're Baker in the Bucks, channel 257 00:11:51,988 --> 00:11:55,268 Speaker 5: that disappointment that hurt into potentially a win this week. 258 00:11:55,348 --> 00:11:55,548 Speaker 2: Yeah. 259 00:11:55,628 --> 00:11:58,748 Speaker 8: Look, I think Baker is perfect for the city of Tampa, 260 00:11:58,788 --> 00:12:01,788 Speaker 8: like they love him down here. His personality through and through. 261 00:12:01,828 --> 00:12:04,228 Speaker 8: He is the alpha leader of that team. And that 262 00:12:04,388 --> 00:12:07,228 Speaker 8: team has Levonte Davids and Vidaveas. They have great leadership 263 00:12:07,468 --> 00:12:10,468 Speaker 8: and Baker takes command of that because he knows what 264 00:12:10,548 --> 00:12:13,028 Speaker 8: he can do now that he has belief. We talked 265 00:12:13,028 --> 00:12:15,708 Speaker 8: to Baker about the belief he has with this organization, 266 00:12:15,788 --> 00:12:17,748 Speaker 8: so he has the ability. I didn't get a strip 267 00:12:17,828 --> 00:12:19,788 Speaker 8: sack there, which is crazy. He has really strong hands, 268 00:12:19,788 --> 00:12:21,428 Speaker 8: by the way. I couldn't believe he didn't fumble that. 269 00:12:22,108 --> 00:12:24,828 Speaker 8: By the way, it is a sack though, But let 270 00:12:24,908 --> 00:12:27,148 Speaker 8: me get back to my point. But I believe that 271 00:12:27,188 --> 00:12:29,988 Speaker 8: Baker is the leader. And the thing about Todd Bowles 272 00:12:29,988 --> 00:12:32,708 Speaker 8: being in his meeting rooms every single week, it's a 273 00:12:32,748 --> 00:12:34,788 Speaker 8: new defense. So here they're gonna have a completely new 274 00:12:34,828 --> 00:12:37,628 Speaker 8: defensive plan from Josh Allen that what they did last week, 275 00:12:37,668 --> 00:12:39,668 Speaker 8: whether it worked or didn't work last week, he's going 276 00:12:39,748 --> 00:12:42,548 Speaker 8: to have some new stuff for Josh Allen. He's definitely 277 00:12:42,588 --> 00:12:45,388 Speaker 8: great at coming after quarterbacks. You know he'll do that. 278 00:12:45,468 --> 00:12:47,788 Speaker 8: So the defense will be locking loaded to go, and 279 00:12:47,828 --> 00:12:50,148 Speaker 8: now they have their leader on offense. I don't worry 280 00:12:50,188 --> 00:12:51,508 Speaker 8: about the Bucks. The Bucks are going to get in 281 00:12:51,548 --> 00:12:53,748 Speaker 8: the playoffs. Then it's a matter can you beat a 282 00:12:53,788 --> 00:12:56,548 Speaker 8: Baker Mayfield and can you beat a Todd Bowles's defense. 283 00:12:56,588 --> 00:12:58,868 Speaker 8: So that's week to week there. But I'm not worried 284 00:12:58,868 --> 00:13:00,868 Speaker 8: about the Bucks. They got the right guy at quarterback 285 00:13:00,868 --> 00:13:02,228 Speaker 8: and that's Baker Mayfield. 286 00:13:03,148 --> 00:13:04,748 Speaker 9: Logan, I want to go back to that game, the 287 00:13:04,748 --> 00:13:07,708 Speaker 9: Bucks and the Pats, and you're the perfect person to 288 00:13:07,748 --> 00:13:10,908 Speaker 9: speak about these teams because you played for both teams 289 00:13:10,948 --> 00:13:14,108 Speaker 9: and both head coaches. You got Mike Rabel on one side, 290 00:13:14,148 --> 00:13:15,708 Speaker 9: Todd Bowles on the other side. 291 00:13:16,148 --> 00:13:17,268 Speaker 2: I want to know, how do. 292 00:13:17,228 --> 00:13:19,108 Speaker 9: These coaches styles differ? 293 00:13:19,388 --> 00:13:20,508 Speaker 8: How are they similar? 294 00:13:20,748 --> 00:13:22,428 Speaker 9: What do you think when you compare and look at 295 00:13:22,428 --> 00:13:24,348 Speaker 9: these two side by side. 296 00:13:24,548 --> 00:13:27,788 Speaker 8: Man, that's a great that's a great question, Seth. You know, 297 00:13:27,788 --> 00:13:29,588 Speaker 8: off the top of my head, I would say that 298 00:13:30,668 --> 00:13:34,828 Speaker 8: they're great guys to play for. They are authentically themselves. 299 00:13:35,188 --> 00:13:37,628 Speaker 8: They are not trying to be anybody else. Mike Rabel's 300 00:13:37,668 --> 00:13:40,508 Speaker 8: not trying to be Bill Belichick. Todd Bowles is not 301 00:13:40,548 --> 00:13:43,628 Speaker 8: trying to be anybody else. They are themselves. They take 302 00:13:43,708 --> 00:13:46,028 Speaker 8: ownership when things don't go wrong, and I think that 303 00:13:46,028 --> 00:13:49,228 Speaker 8: they're both guys that players love to play for. I 304 00:13:49,228 --> 00:13:54,108 Speaker 8: would say Mike uh kind of New England does what 305 00:13:54,148 --> 00:13:56,628 Speaker 8: they do, meaning the playbook kind of stays the same, 306 00:13:57,028 --> 00:13:59,188 Speaker 8: and he's going to demand excellence. He's going to make 307 00:13:59,188 --> 00:14:01,468 Speaker 8: it really simple, so you kind of know what you 308 00:14:01,508 --> 00:14:03,348 Speaker 8: got to do weekend and week out. You're going to 309 00:14:03,388 --> 00:14:06,828 Speaker 8: build on that identity weekend and week out. Todd's gonna 310 00:14:06,828 --> 00:14:09,908 Speaker 8: have his identity, but it's much more game plan in 311 00:14:09,948 --> 00:14:12,548 Speaker 8: a sense where he's going to change, like I said, 312 00:14:12,668 --> 00:14:15,668 Speaker 8: completely different defenses from week to week. Like the defense 313 00:14:15,708 --> 00:14:19,268 Speaker 8: itself can look completely different an swan Winfield can play 314 00:14:19,308 --> 00:14:22,348 Speaker 8: a completely new position next week in that defense because 315 00:14:22,348 --> 00:14:24,708 Speaker 8: he's so flexible on how he goes about it. But 316 00:14:24,748 --> 00:14:27,588 Speaker 8: they're great game managers. They're great with their timeouts and 317 00:14:27,628 --> 00:14:30,708 Speaker 8: situational football, so they're really similar. But I think the 318 00:14:30,708 --> 00:14:33,628 Speaker 8: difference is how many different wrinkles Todd puts in his defense, 319 00:14:33,828 --> 00:14:35,908 Speaker 8: where Rabel kind of builds that standard from week to 320 00:14:35,908 --> 00:14:36,588 Speaker 8: week defensively. 321 00:14:36,628 --> 00:14:39,748 Speaker 6: At least you're so good with all those nuances. It's 322 00:14:39,748 --> 00:14:42,668 Speaker 6: an awesome answer. You're also, dude, incredible in the community. 323 00:14:42,748 --> 00:14:44,788 Speaker 6: Way back in twenty seventeen, you and your wife Ashley 324 00:14:44,828 --> 00:14:49,348 Speaker 6: founded the Ryan Animal Rescue Foundation. Last month, you were 325 00:14:49,388 --> 00:14:53,548 Speaker 6: honored with the twenty twenty five ASPCA Public Service Award. 326 00:14:53,748 --> 00:14:55,548 Speaker 2: We have a clip logan We're gonna listen to us. 327 00:14:55,548 --> 00:14:56,868 Speaker 2: Take a listen, and then we'll talk about it. 328 00:14:58,428 --> 00:15:02,828 Speaker 8: I feel all the people can volunteer and actually work 329 00:15:02,908 --> 00:15:08,948 Speaker 8: for to day onto worthy of this award. It was 330 00:15:08,988 --> 00:15:12,428 Speaker 8: never my intention to start one of the largest run 331 00:15:12,508 --> 00:15:16,268 Speaker 8: minority foundations in the United States. I've obviously tackled the 332 00:15:16,388 --> 00:15:18,708 Speaker 8: image of what the NFL has dealt with, but I 333 00:15:18,748 --> 00:15:22,188 Speaker 8: also think we should highlight people like myself that constantly 334 00:15:22,188 --> 00:15:23,308 Speaker 8: made the right decisions. 335 00:15:23,508 --> 00:15:24,708 Speaker 2: We just wanted to see. 336 00:15:24,468 --> 00:15:26,988 Speaker 8: Something and do something, and that's why I encourage all 337 00:15:26,988 --> 00:15:30,428 Speaker 8: you guys. If you see something, do something, don't. 338 00:15:30,268 --> 00:15:31,388 Speaker 2: Be afraid to be a leader. 339 00:15:31,548 --> 00:15:33,948 Speaker 8: And that's how my story came to life. 340 00:15:35,268 --> 00:15:37,388 Speaker 6: Pretty cool man, tell us more about why you and 341 00:15:37,428 --> 00:15:38,668 Speaker 6: ask you started this foundation? 342 00:15:38,828 --> 00:15:40,388 Speaker 2: What the award means to you? Guys? 343 00:15:40,908 --> 00:15:44,508 Speaker 8: Well, two things there, Kyle. One, I broke the turtleneck 344 00:15:44,548 --> 00:15:46,988 Speaker 8: out kind of early. First, want to bring up the 345 00:15:46,988 --> 00:15:50,308 Speaker 8: turtle next season. Okay, just gonna all all one color 346 00:15:50,388 --> 00:15:52,388 Speaker 8: monotone there. I don't know if I like it or 347 00:15:52,548 --> 00:15:56,948 Speaker 8: I'm not sure that. Secondly, I hit the Conrad Gregord. 348 00:15:56,948 --> 00:15:59,268 Speaker 8: I want to thank myself when I'm up there for 349 00:15:59,308 --> 00:16:02,788 Speaker 8: what I did. But look, man, I love animals. My 350 00:16:02,908 --> 00:16:05,428 Speaker 8: wife worked in the animal shelter. When I was trying 351 00:16:05,428 --> 00:16:07,268 Speaker 8: to find my calls, I knew in the NFL when 352 00:16:07,308 --> 00:16:09,028 Speaker 8: I had a platform, I wanted to make something bigger, 353 00:16:09,148 --> 00:16:13,228 Speaker 8: better than bigger, and better than me. It was going 354 00:16:13,308 --> 00:16:15,908 Speaker 8: to be animals. And we've rescued three dogs. Personally, we 355 00:16:15,988 --> 00:16:20,268 Speaker 8: promote adoption, We raise tons of money for all animal 356 00:16:20,308 --> 00:16:23,108 Speaker 8: shelters out there. And they decide to give me the award, 357 00:16:23,148 --> 00:16:24,708 Speaker 8: and actually they mailed me the ward. I've been on 358 00:16:24,708 --> 00:16:26,948 Speaker 8: the road, so it's pretty heavy. I wasn't able to 359 00:16:27,348 --> 00:16:29,068 Speaker 8: carry that on the plane, but they can I open 360 00:16:29,108 --> 00:16:29,308 Speaker 8: it now. 361 00:16:29,348 --> 00:16:31,788 Speaker 2: I haven't opened it yet. Yeah, do it. 362 00:16:31,828 --> 00:16:34,668 Speaker 8: Come on, I'm boxing, show my address. Here we go, 363 00:16:35,068 --> 00:16:35,828 Speaker 8: So we got a lie. 364 00:16:35,868 --> 00:16:37,628 Speaker 2: All right. Yeah, that's the opening. 365 00:16:37,428 --> 00:16:40,468 Speaker 8: Of this award here and like I said, we go. 366 00:16:41,228 --> 00:16:42,028 Speaker 2: I've been busy. 367 00:16:42,348 --> 00:16:45,148 Speaker 8: Hopefully the tape, you know, we can get it before 368 00:16:45,148 --> 00:16:45,908 Speaker 8: commercial break. 369 00:16:47,148 --> 00:16:49,388 Speaker 6: So many pop quarantine outs. I bet in their watch 370 00:16:49,468 --> 00:16:50,868 Speaker 6: their hair thumbs. Come on, here we go. 371 00:16:50,988 --> 00:16:53,268 Speaker 8: First of all, I think my wife left their clutch. 372 00:16:53,308 --> 00:16:54,588 Speaker 8: I thought that'd give us a bag. 373 00:16:54,668 --> 00:16:56,628 Speaker 2: Okay, Oh, there we go. 374 00:16:58,108 --> 00:17:01,988 Speaker 8: So it's nice and wrapped up. Well, let's let's fust 375 00:17:02,108 --> 00:17:02,708 Speaker 8: up the wrapping. 376 00:17:02,788 --> 00:17:05,068 Speaker 2: Also, Logan casually has two lombar he is behind them. 377 00:17:05,068 --> 00:17:05,828 Speaker 2: If you want to watch that. 378 00:17:06,028 --> 00:17:09,468 Speaker 8: Yeah, this is going up there. Man, listen, this is harder. 379 00:17:09,668 --> 00:17:11,388 Speaker 2: Look at that. Man. 380 00:17:11,828 --> 00:17:16,948 Speaker 6: Yeah, beautiful, you go, beautiful. 381 00:17:17,308 --> 00:17:19,788 Speaker 8: Here we go, man, live on wrapping for you guys 382 00:17:19,828 --> 00:17:22,148 Speaker 8: on Good Morning Football. But look, man, I'm super honored, 383 00:17:22,508 --> 00:17:24,948 Speaker 8: and you know, I'm just a football player that tries 384 00:17:24,988 --> 00:17:27,228 Speaker 8: to do the most of my platform and all that stuff. 385 00:17:27,268 --> 00:17:29,548 Speaker 8: But I really, you know, donate some ward to all 386 00:17:29,548 --> 00:17:33,108 Speaker 8: the people that you know working animal shelters that volunteer 387 00:17:33,588 --> 00:17:34,308 Speaker 8: and really do this. 388 00:17:34,268 --> 00:17:34,708 Speaker 2: For a living. 389 00:17:34,748 --> 00:17:36,468 Speaker 8: I don't make the money that I make to do it, 390 00:17:36,468 --> 00:17:38,828 Speaker 8: so really the award is for all those people out there. 391 00:17:38,868 --> 00:17:41,908 Speaker 8: All my animal lovers out there, please adopt awesome. 392 00:17:41,948 --> 00:17:44,028 Speaker 2: All right, you're the bestman, nobody better. 393 00:17:44,228 --> 00:17:58,628 Speaker 10: Congratulations for it up on the shelf later, dude, Good morning. 394 00:17:58,468 --> 00:18:01,028 Speaker 11: Football the New York Giants. It ends with a twenty one, 395 00:18:01,108 --> 00:18:05,268 Speaker 11: forty one and one record for seasons in total. And 396 00:18:05,348 --> 00:18:08,788 Speaker 11: like we said, Kafka now takes over. This is a 397 00:18:09,188 --> 00:18:12,588 Speaker 11: tough time for the Giants. They got their great quarterback, 398 00:18:12,668 --> 00:18:16,428 Speaker 11: they've got really young electric offensive play makers man Schai. 399 00:18:16,588 --> 00:18:19,068 Speaker 11: But now they are in search behind the Tennessee Titans 400 00:18:19,068 --> 00:18:19,828 Speaker 11: for a new head coach. 401 00:18:19,908 --> 00:18:22,908 Speaker 7: Well, also, Joe Shane is being retained and he'll be 402 00:18:22,908 --> 00:18:25,188 Speaker 7: helping with that search. And I hope in that search 403 00:18:25,228 --> 00:18:28,028 Speaker 7: that they find somebody that just doesn't only call plays, 404 00:18:28,148 --> 00:18:30,948 Speaker 7: whether it's defensively or offensively, that they find somebody that 405 00:18:30,948 --> 00:18:32,948 Speaker 7: can stand in front of a room command respective men. 406 00:18:33,228 --> 00:18:35,628 Speaker 7: That's the main thing. When you're looking at the head coach, 407 00:18:35,868 --> 00:18:38,188 Speaker 7: look no further than the best teams in the league 408 00:18:38,188 --> 00:18:40,068 Speaker 7: and look at the qualities of the head coaches that 409 00:18:40,068 --> 00:18:40,708 Speaker 7: they have there. 410 00:18:40,908 --> 00:18:42,108 Speaker 2: I promise you some of. 411 00:18:42,068 --> 00:18:44,148 Speaker 7: Them can call offensive places, some of them can call 412 00:18:44,228 --> 00:18:46,988 Speaker 7: defensive plays, but all of them have the ability to 413 00:18:47,028 --> 00:18:48,988 Speaker 7: stand in front of fifty three men and command the 414 00:18:49,028 --> 00:18:50,748 Speaker 7: respect of that room. So I wish them luck as 415 00:18:50,748 --> 00:18:53,108 Speaker 7: they go on this search. Just always look at the 416 00:18:53,148 --> 00:18:55,308 Speaker 7: qualities of the head coach and not just to play calling. 417 00:18:55,868 --> 00:18:56,868 Speaker 2: No, you're absolutely correct. 418 00:18:56,908 --> 00:18:59,308 Speaker 12: I mean they haven't been even in a Super Bowl 419 00:18:59,308 --> 00:19:01,828 Speaker 12: conversationation since I've retired, right, and I won a Super 420 00:19:01,828 --> 00:19:06,148 Speaker 12: Bowl with them back in twenty eleven time. No disrespect 421 00:19:06,148 --> 00:19:08,588 Speaker 12: to the current coach of regime, No disrespect to day Bo. 422 00:19:08,748 --> 00:19:10,428 Speaker 12: I think he's one heck of a play caller. I 423 00:19:10,468 --> 00:19:12,988 Speaker 12: just don't think that every play caller is meant to 424 00:19:12,988 --> 00:19:14,708 Speaker 12: be a head coach, and I think that might be 425 00:19:14,748 --> 00:19:16,868 Speaker 12: the case, at least in New York for day Bo. 426 00:19:16,948 --> 00:19:20,668 Speaker 12: Hopefully he prods another opportunity. But thirty three winning percent 427 00:19:20,708 --> 00:19:22,668 Speaker 12: inch over four years, it's just not going to get 428 00:19:22,708 --> 00:19:25,748 Speaker 12: it done. To the Giants organization, I know what their 429 00:19:25,788 --> 00:19:29,548 Speaker 12: standard of excellence is and they were not even smelling 430 00:19:29,628 --> 00:19:32,108 Speaker 12: or sniffing remotely close to it. So they have to 431 00:19:32,108 --> 00:19:33,908 Speaker 12: go another direction and hopefully they can take a land 432 00:19:33,948 --> 00:19:34,388 Speaker 12: on their feet. 433 00:19:35,588 --> 00:19:35,788 Speaker 2: Yeah. 434 00:19:35,788 --> 00:19:38,148 Speaker 6: I mean, they don't really do the end season firing. 435 00:19:38,188 --> 00:19:40,908 Speaker 6: It's not something they like to do. They felt obviously 436 00:19:40,948 --> 00:19:42,988 Speaker 6: that strongly they had to go with it. I just 437 00:19:43,068 --> 00:19:46,148 Speaker 6: got wasn't it twenty minutes ago that this Giants team 438 00:19:46,228 --> 00:19:49,388 Speaker 6: was beating up the Eagles on national television and kids 439 00:19:49,388 --> 00:19:51,948 Speaker 6: were dressing up for Halloween as Giants. 440 00:19:51,588 --> 00:19:54,828 Speaker 2: Players like Skataboo and Dark. That just happened. It was 441 00:19:54,828 --> 00:19:57,188 Speaker 2: like a week ago, and now it's all gone to crap. 442 00:19:57,268 --> 00:19:57,908 Speaker 2: I would just say this. 443 00:19:58,268 --> 00:20:00,108 Speaker 6: You know, you always hear special teams are a third 444 00:20:00,108 --> 00:20:02,628 Speaker 6: of the game. It's really not true. They're a fifth 445 00:20:02,668 --> 00:20:05,148 Speaker 6: of the game. There's offense, there's defense, there's special teams, 446 00:20:05,188 --> 00:20:07,148 Speaker 6: there's officiating, and there's injuries. 447 00:20:07,628 --> 00:20:09,388 Speaker 2: And you know, I would have loved to see. 448 00:20:09,148 --> 00:20:11,268 Speaker 6: This Giants team this year with Jackson Dart and Cam 449 00:20:11,348 --> 00:20:13,468 Speaker 6: Scatabu and Malik Neighbors and all across the board. And 450 00:20:13,468 --> 00:20:14,988 Speaker 6: I would have liked to see what Brian Dable could 451 00:20:14,988 --> 00:20:18,268 Speaker 6: do with him this offense that he personally curated, did 452 00:20:18,308 --> 00:20:20,348 Speaker 6: not inherit, but handpicked to coach. 453 00:20:20,908 --> 00:20:21,388 Speaker 2: And I get it. 454 00:20:21,428 --> 00:20:23,508 Speaker 6: Everybody has injuries, and they had injuries too, and it's 455 00:20:23,548 --> 00:20:26,548 Speaker 6: just it went bad so fast. I hate seeing this 456 00:20:26,628 --> 00:20:28,588 Speaker 6: because I'll just cards on the table. I like Brian 457 00:20:28,668 --> 00:20:30,268 Speaker 6: Dable as a man, I like him as a leader. 458 00:20:30,468 --> 00:20:32,468 Speaker 6: I know why they did this, but I don't like 459 00:20:32,548 --> 00:20:36,108 Speaker 6: that it happened. And I also say two things. This, 460 00:20:36,108 --> 00:20:39,268 Speaker 6: this head coaching search for the Giants, I think it 461 00:20:39,348 --> 00:20:41,708 Speaker 6: might be their most important one in history, in the 462 00:20:41,788 --> 00:20:43,348 Speaker 6: history of the one hundred and one years or whatever 463 00:20:43,388 --> 00:20:45,348 Speaker 6: they have, because they cannot blow this. 464 00:20:45,468 --> 00:20:47,068 Speaker 2: They cannot blow Jackson Dart. 465 00:20:47,108 --> 00:20:49,188 Speaker 6: You cannot throw them into the cycle where every year 466 00:20:49,188 --> 00:20:50,908 Speaker 6: he has a new coach, a new coordinator, because he's 467 00:20:50,948 --> 00:20:52,348 Speaker 6: going to be gone on some other team in. 468 00:20:52,308 --> 00:20:55,948 Speaker 2: A few years if you do that. Lastly, every single 469 00:20:55,988 --> 00:20:56,468 Speaker 2: member of. 470 00:20:56,428 --> 00:20:58,988 Speaker 6: Bill's mafia the second this happened said, great, bring table 471 00:20:59,028 --> 00:21:01,028 Speaker 6: to the Buffalo, bring them, let's go, bring them back. 472 00:21:01,268 --> 00:21:02,868 Speaker 2: He's the guy who got Josh to go. 473 00:21:02,788 --> 00:21:05,748 Speaker 6: From being a promising player to bring him back, bring 474 00:21:05,828 --> 00:21:08,268 Speaker 6: him back. And I would probably agree with that. Sean 475 00:21:08,308 --> 00:21:11,108 Speaker 6: McDermott immediately yesterday saying there are no plans, that's not 476 00:21:11,188 --> 00:21:13,828 Speaker 6: a consideration at all. Now that's a complicated thing with 477 00:21:13,868 --> 00:21:16,348 Speaker 6: their guy Joe Brady and wanting to make sure everybody 478 00:21:16,428 --> 00:21:19,268 Speaker 6: is confident. But the Bills offense is playing horrible. A 479 00:21:19,268 --> 00:21:22,228 Speaker 6: guy who launched Josh Allen into the stratosphere is available, 480 00:21:22,788 --> 00:21:25,788 Speaker 6: I don't know. I would take a look maybe if not, now, 481 00:21:25,868 --> 00:21:27,308 Speaker 6: we are you going to lose again next weekend and 482 00:21:27,348 --> 00:21:30,228 Speaker 6: then do it? I would do it, but McDermott's going 483 00:21:30,268 --> 00:21:32,428 Speaker 6: to do his thing and not a lot changes there. 484 00:21:32,508 --> 00:21:34,628 Speaker 6: So Dabel I don't know how to put a cap 485 00:21:34,668 --> 00:21:35,908 Speaker 6: on a Jamie other than say it sucks. 486 00:21:35,988 --> 00:21:36,908 Speaker 2: We hate firings here. 487 00:21:37,028 --> 00:21:38,548 Speaker 6: He had a lot of promise in the twenty twenty 488 00:21:38,548 --> 00:21:40,108 Speaker 6: two season, but it went bad and went. 489 00:21:39,988 --> 00:21:40,868 Speaker 2: Bad really quickly. 490 00:21:40,988 --> 00:21:42,988 Speaker 11: It was a good reminder Kyle as how we got 491 00:21:42,988 --> 00:21:45,548 Speaker 11: here at Brian Dable, which is he had his handprints 492 00:21:45,868 --> 00:21:48,788 Speaker 11: all over what we know now of Josh Allen. And 493 00:21:48,828 --> 00:21:51,268 Speaker 11: this would be complicated even if the Bills were undefeated 494 00:21:51,308 --> 00:21:53,828 Speaker 11: at this point, if they were going well, you always 495 00:21:53,948 --> 00:21:57,468 Speaker 11: think what if Brian Dabele was back in that building. However, 496 00:21:57,548 --> 00:21:59,388 Speaker 11: things aren't going well in Buffalo, so it is a 497 00:21:59,388 --> 00:22:01,628 Speaker 11: good thing to keep an eye on Western New York. 498 00:22:01,628 --> 00:22:04,348 Speaker 11: With that, however, we don't worry about the Bills right now, 499 00:22:04,508 --> 00:22:05,188 Speaker 11: Mike Carofolo. 500 00:22:05,268 --> 00:22:07,068 Speaker 2: What we do want to worry about, because. 501 00:22:06,868 --> 00:22:11,708 Speaker 11: Zoomtite is how the Giants navigate this over the back 502 00:22:11,748 --> 00:22:14,748 Speaker 11: half of the season. Considering Mike Kafka will take over 503 00:22:14,788 --> 00:22:18,068 Speaker 11: these play calling duties. Where do the Giants go from here? 504 00:22:18,268 --> 00:22:20,428 Speaker 11: Ahead of what we now know will be a head. 505 00:22:20,228 --> 00:22:22,108 Speaker 2: Coaching search, Jamie. 506 00:22:22,148 --> 00:22:24,108 Speaker 5: If I know that Giants building, and I think I 507 00:22:24,188 --> 00:22:26,308 Speaker 5: do a little bit having been around it for a 508 00:22:26,308 --> 00:22:29,428 Speaker 5: couple of decades, I would say that you should expect 509 00:22:29,468 --> 00:22:32,148 Speaker 5: some familiar names at least to be part of this 510 00:22:32,308 --> 00:22:33,988 Speaker 5: coaching search. And I can just name a couple right 511 00:22:34,068 --> 00:22:36,708 Speaker 5: up the top of my head. Antonio Pierce, who played 512 00:22:36,748 --> 00:22:39,308 Speaker 5: there and has some head coaching experience with the Raiders, which, 513 00:22:39,308 --> 00:22:41,108 Speaker 5: by the way, Pete Carroll's not doing much better with 514 00:22:41,148 --> 00:22:42,988 Speaker 5: the Raiders than he did, so that's certainly. 515 00:22:42,788 --> 00:22:45,068 Speaker 2: His case for it. He did not have talent. Pete 516 00:22:45,068 --> 00:22:45,508 Speaker 2: actually has. 517 00:22:45,468 --> 00:22:48,468 Speaker 5: Better talent at the quarterback position. Steve Spagnolo is another one. 518 00:22:48,508 --> 00:22:51,228 Speaker 5: Still don't understand why he has not gotten a second 519 00:22:51,268 --> 00:22:54,268 Speaker 5: head coaching job. This is an organization that certainly knows 520 00:22:54,308 --> 00:22:54,828 Speaker 5: him well from. 521 00:22:54,788 --> 00:22:55,588 Speaker 2: Multiple stints there. 522 00:22:55,748 --> 00:22:58,308 Speaker 5: Lul Leedromo another guy with connections to the Giants and 523 00:22:58,308 --> 00:23:00,868 Speaker 5: connections to the area as well, expected to be one 524 00:23:00,908 --> 00:23:02,148 Speaker 5: of the top head coaching candidates. 525 00:23:02,148 --> 00:23:02,788 Speaker 2: Now I had his name. 526 00:23:02,948 --> 00:23:06,268 Speaker 5: Three defensive guys right there. I just did a little 527 00:23:06,308 --> 00:23:09,148 Speaker 5: bit of exercise right here, Jamie, Giants haven't hired an 528 00:23:09,188 --> 00:23:12,388 Speaker 5: offensive minded, excuse me, a defensive minded head coach since 529 00:23:12,388 --> 00:23:14,868 Speaker 5: Bill Parcell's back in nineteen eighty three. I did this 530 00:23:14,948 --> 00:23:17,308 Speaker 5: really quickly. If I got this wrong, I don't think 531 00:23:17,348 --> 00:23:19,828 Speaker 5: I did. I'm pretty sure the rest of the NFL, 532 00:23:19,908 --> 00:23:22,508 Speaker 5: other than the Baltimore Ravens, who didn't exist in nineteen 533 00:23:22,548 --> 00:23:26,348 Speaker 5: eighty three, have hired a defensive head coach within that timeframe. 534 00:23:26,428 --> 00:23:28,468 Speaker 5: So maybe it's time for the Giants to say, forget 535 00:23:28,508 --> 00:23:29,588 Speaker 5: trying to find the play caller. 536 00:23:29,668 --> 00:23:31,068 Speaker 2: Let's look at the defensive side of the ball. 537 00:23:31,308 --> 00:23:34,268 Speaker 5: Somebody's got to be more of a Tom Coughlin lead 538 00:23:34,348 --> 00:23:38,428 Speaker 5: that building. Forget the x's and oh's. A leader of men, 539 00:23:38,468 --> 00:23:40,748 Speaker 5: we're a leader of men season. Here at thirty one 540 00:23:40,788 --> 00:23:42,868 Speaker 5: degrees outs time for a leader of men's season. 541 00:23:42,708 --> 00:23:45,868 Speaker 11: Jamie, Mike Carfalo, you should have seen all the body 542 00:23:45,908 --> 00:23:48,668 Speaker 11: language at the table. As you continue to mention defensive 543 00:23:48,668 --> 00:23:50,908 Speaker 11: head coaches, You're like, so, let me get this straight. 544 00:23:50,988 --> 00:23:53,828 Speaker 11: You're going to make that suggestion with a Jackson Dart, 545 00:23:53,868 --> 00:23:58,908 Speaker 11: with a cam skataboo, with all those options offensively and 546 00:23:58,988 --> 00:24:01,988 Speaker 11: carefullows like, here are three names defensively and Kyle. 547 00:24:01,748 --> 00:24:05,628 Speaker 2: Brandt is no Matt agrees. I do agree. Head coach, 548 00:24:05,788 --> 00:24:08,108 Speaker 2: not play caller. Head coach, leader up. 549 00:24:08,148 --> 00:24:10,468 Speaker 7: Then you can hire an offensive coordinator for that. 550 00:24:10,468 --> 00:24:11,988 Speaker 11: I will lead these men and all the men of 551 00:24:12,028 --> 00:24:12,868 Speaker 11: men and watching this show. 552 00:24:12,908 --> 00:24:13,588 Speaker 2: It's a commercial. 553 00:24:13,588 --> 00:24:18,788 Speaker 11: Week ten is now in the books. 554 00:24:19,948 --> 00:24:21,748 Speaker 2: Good morning football,