WEBVTT - Sabotage or Critique 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:07.240 What's your family. It's your girl to make a d 0:00:07.400 --> 0:00:11.119 Mallory and it's your boy and my son, and we 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:16.040 are your hosts of street politicians the place with me 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:19.720 going on my son Lennen. You know me, I'm blessing 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:23.880 Holly Favorite, doing God's work. Sure, so you just a 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:26.400 couple of days ago out with the kids in the 0:00:26.400 --> 0:00:29.640 school greeting them. Were you guys greeting them when they 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:33.479 went in or out and were greeting them going in? Okay, 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:37.560 that's cool, amazing day. Shout out to Pierce one Hollom, 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:42.080 Shout out to Principle Spain who invited me. It's such 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:43.600 a it was such a dope event, right, And I 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.279 think it's like I said, I think it should be 0:00:46.479 --> 0:00:50.080 something that's implemented all around the city. Like, you know, 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:53.479 I think just seeing that presence of men in the 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:56.920 school greeting, you know, just showing that their presence, like 0:00:56.960 --> 0:00:59.320 it's because it's so absent, it's not something that's normal, 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:01.680 but it's should be normal. Right, Like I felt good 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:05.160 watching these kids, they've seen us. They excuse me to 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:07.920 him music playing, We hugged some of them, We gave 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:10.920 him high fives. It was just an energy, you know, 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:14.319 and doing that like once a month. Yeah, you're giving 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:18.960 him a vibe. It's like the school feels protected, right, 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:21.959 you feel you feel connected to the school, the community. 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:25.000 Brothers coming out of the community start paying attention. You know. 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:29.080 It makes people who would seek to do anything negative 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.039 around that looks from somewhere else to go because they 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:36.160 realized there's a presence around there that's not gonna you know, tolerated. 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.520 So I think it's something that you know, we should 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:42.320 look for, you know, to get done in schools or 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.759 in the city. Well, I think two things. One that's 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:48.040 what I was talking about, you know, in reference to 0:01:48.240 --> 0:01:51.280 the interview, Um, I'm excuse me. The conversation we had 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:55.440 last week on the white man fighting the kid, or 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:58.280 you know, him not fighting the kid, beating up a 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:03.360 child because he bought his kid to fight another child 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:06.120 of white kid against the black child. And then of 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:09.200 course when the black kid got the best of his child, 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:12.040 he got frustrated, jumped in and put his hands on 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.480 a kid, which he shouldn't have. And that was my 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:18.960 whole point about fathers, you know, being present. I think 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.560 it will really really help us. And you don't have 0:02:21.639 --> 0:02:26.919 to be someone's biological parents to show up and present 0:02:27.160 --> 0:02:30.840 the fatherhood that we need in communities. So I think 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:32.959 that's great, And I think the second point is that 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:36.240 the culture is not gonna just change on its own. 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:41.680 We literally have to force a shift by actively doing things, 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:48.280 whether it's in music, art, entertainment, you know, just everyday life, 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:53.200 everything we do in education, everywhere we go, and everything 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:56.640 we do, even the what we eat, what we're feeding ourselves, 0:02:56.720 --> 0:03:00.040 what we're saying on social media, how we're presents in 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:05.640 every space. We have to be intentional about shifting this 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:09.440 culture because people have gotten really comfortable for the last 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.639 two years three years with stupid ship. I keep saying, 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:16.399 stupid ship is the is my type? What's that's my own? 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:19.239 What do you call a term that I'm using for 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.480 so many things that's going on right now, And I 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.120 don't think it's gonna just change. We've got to make 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:27.880 it change. Yeah, we gotta be intentional. You know, I 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:32.160 coined the frame. I've coined the phrase coward culture and 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:36.320 coward culture and stupid ship. That's that's unto the way. Now, 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:41.640 excuse street politicians has two phrases that you can depend 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:45.320 on us to say coward culture by my son Linnen 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:50.000 and stupid ship by Jaminamality. Yeah, and that's what it is. Man. 0:03:50.080 --> 0:03:52.400 So shout out to the brother and shout out to Derek, 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:56.119 Shout out to Billy all other brothers who came out, 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.560 you know and represented man. It was a dope e 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:01.640 vat cool whoa that? I love it. I love it. 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:05.640 So while you all were out there at the school 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:11.360 with the young people, the the Attorney General of New York, 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:18.520 Leticia Jane Letitia Jamesia as we call her, she did 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:23.360 a thing which was to bring charges against uh, you know, 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:30.640 Donald Trump, and not just him. His kids are in 0:04:30.680 --> 0:04:34.719 then in in the the charges. They are all a 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:38.840 part of the case. And you know, I listened to 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:40.720 the press conference, which is not something that I would 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:43.400 generally do because I'm so over Trump, because I don't 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:48.360 really think that it will result in anything seriously happening 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.680 to him. But you know, maybe a black woman will 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:56.200 get it done. Um. But you know, as I was 0:04:56.320 --> 0:05:00.520 listening to what he did in terms of in inflating 0:05:00.720 --> 0:05:05.280 his income, um, you know, claiming to have more money 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:10.120 and for his properties to be evaluated at higher prices. 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:14.320 So no matter what if the auditors and the appraisers 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:19.400 said two hundred million dollars. When the paperwork was filed 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:23.000 or when they applied for loans, it was at five hundred, 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:26.240 five hundred and fifty. I'm talking about not like twenty dollars, 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:30.080 thirty dollars, even a hundred mill We're talking about hundreds 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:33.640 and hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars that he 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:38.600 was inflating his numbers per the charges and that she's 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:42.360 put forward. And of course his children running the companies. 0:05:42.520 --> 0:05:44.440 In order for him to be able to do that, 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:47.280 they would have to be a part of it. Um, 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:51.440 running the companies, the buildings, all the things, and even 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:56.200 even the size of his apartment at Trump Towers was 0:05:56.440 --> 0:06:00.679 like say eleven thousand square feet or eleven hundreds square 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:04.520 feet or something some number like that. And instead I 0:06:04.560 --> 0:06:07.880 think they may have, um, you know, submitted paperwork that 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:11.360 said it was like fifty on some you know, some crazy, crazy, 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.040 crazy numbers. Don't quote me on the numbers. Make sure 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:18.160 you read the article. But the point is that he 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:23.159 what they were doing was just so blatant, right and 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.159 and and and at one point I was listening, I'm like, damn, 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:28.960 like this is really crazy, Like somebody needs to go 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.680 to jail. And then I realized the brother learned this 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:36.920 stuff from his daddy. This is what I'm like, who like, 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:39.400 how we need to it's some other people that need 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.240 to go down because they've been doing this. This is 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:44.960 he this is a strap. They've been doing this. Black 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:48.400 men ain't gonna over say, black man gonna say, I'm 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:51.799 gonna put about an extra ten feet or so tight, 0:06:51.800 --> 0:06:54.520 I'm gonna put by an extra thousand couple of dollars 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:58.000 on it. These things just what I'm saying, we got 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:02.880 we're doing it wrong. Man, were like, no, listen what 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:06.000 I'm trying to tell you, man, we ain't even stealing right. 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:09.280 The crime that we do don't even make sense. These 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.320 things just figure out how to make two or the million, 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:15.320 and we're still the couple of thousands, two thousand, maybe 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:20.320 fifty hundreds of millions. And the benefit that they received 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.520 is that if they inflate the numbers, it puts them 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.480 in a different tax bracket, and they're gonnay all of 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:31.440 these allotments, and you know, it breaks tax breaks and 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:34.240 and you get all of these benefits of having more, 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:38.600 because that's how capitalism works. The more you have, the 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:41.640 less you have to pay in taxes, and the more 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:45.560 benefits and perps you get from the system. So it's crazy. 0:07:45.680 --> 0:07:48.640 We'll see what happens, you know. All I know is 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:53.120 I prayed for uh, for the turn to a G's life, 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:56.840 and I hope that she is well protected. Um And 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:58.600 you know, there have been times and it's you know, 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:04.080 you know, it's certainly know um secret about it, but 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:07.360 there have been times when I've been saying, Tish, I 0:08:07.360 --> 0:08:09.800 don't like you know what you're doing, you know, And 0:08:09.920 --> 0:08:14.560 we've challenged her on many issues, and so it's not 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:20.320 so much that um, I think that she you know it. Well, 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:23.560 let's put it this way. This political space is very, 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:27.560 very complicated. It's so many different complications and speaking of that, 0:08:27.600 --> 0:08:31.800 that goes to our next subject. But it's very complicated. 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:36.120 But I I also understand that certain things that you 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.480 have to do or that you choose to do as 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:44.040 an elected official, and particularly a black elected official, it 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:48.480 takes courage because you literally get yourself killed anything you 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.960 have going on. If Pooky and your family got some 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.760 stuff going on, it's gonna become your problem. Um. You know, 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:58.199 it can, really it can you can really be damaged 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:01.120 in a lot of ways for trying to stand up 0:09:01.120 --> 0:09:04.000 against the system. So you know, shout out to her 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:07.200 for that, and hopefully something comes out of it, because 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.800 Trump is just running wild and no one is doing 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.360 anything about it. But then I hope after she finishes 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.160 with Trump that she moves on to some other landlords 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:18.120 in New York who are doing just the same as 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:25.160 some other millionaires. Uh So, speaking of politics, Hurricane Fiona 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:29.800 and Puerto Rico is like crazy, right, God bless the 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:33.760 people Puerto Rico, very similar to Haiti. It's just like you. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:39.920 It doesn't doesn't stop, it just keeps coming. And then 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:44.800 you have at this simultaneously the water crisis in Jackson, 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:48.920 which Jackson is not alone. Even in North New Jersey 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:51.760 there have been reports of water issues and there are 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:56.360 other states and cities across the country that have issues 0:09:56.480 --> 0:10:00.559 with water. Um, but Jackson is is in the center 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:05.560 of attention right now. We um ship five thousand dollars, 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:08.600 I mean, get five thousand dollars worth of water to 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:13.440 Jackson State University. UM. We are involved in some events, 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:17.280 just actually attended an event, uh to support the people 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:21.000 of Jackson. And the thing what comes to my mind 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:28.040 is how much we as all kinds of people, not 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:30.040 just black people, but a lot of different people who 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:31.760 don't pay attench to the news and this and that, 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:34.880 or people who feel like politics is too much. We 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:38.120 really don't understand, as we've talked about on the show 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:39.880 many times, and we had to show what we talked 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:43.520 about it with Tesla and Figura of Straight Shot No Chaser. 0:10:44.320 --> 0:10:49.559 Everything is political. Water is political. How you get hurricanes 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.760 and how they hit and what type of damage happens, 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:56.960 and then what they do immediately afterwards to try to 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:03.440 preserve lives that's political. And where you are located in 0:11:03.480 --> 0:11:08.640 the in the country, where you are prioritized on the 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:16.960 list of the political uh whatever political political priorities basically right, 0:11:17.320 --> 0:11:20.720 which means you've got money or you've got something that 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:25.800 benefits the politicians, not just they're gonna take care of 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:29.880 your community because they should. It doesn't work like that, unfortunately. 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:33.520 There's got to be something. Either you're voting your you're 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:38.160 you're investing by giving donations. There's got to be something. 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:41.040 You're making noise, you protest, and you've got to be 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:45.400 leaned in in order to get the services that you 0:11:45.520 --> 0:11:48.760 need from this political system. So to sit outside of 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:52.400 it and a hurricane hits and you want to make 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:55.560 sure that your community is it's protected, you better be 0:11:55.679 --> 0:11:58.360 on the ground busting ass telling them that you want 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.839 the resources necessary because when hurricane there are certain things 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:04.760 that need to be done to protect your community so 0:12:04.800 --> 0:12:08.200 that when a hurricane hits, it doesn't damage as much 0:12:08.240 --> 0:12:12.040 as you know, from an infrastructure perspective, as much as 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:15.120 as they could. And then of course things like water, 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:19.040 making sure you have clean water, clean pipes like Front Michigan. 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:22.600 All of that is political because people are making decisions 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.520 about it. I have to, you know, And that's what 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:29.240 I'm saying. People that are trying to circumvent on act 0:12:29.280 --> 0:12:31.760 like the process they don't want to be involved in. 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:34.640 Like if you ain't at the table, you want the menu, man. 0:12:34.679 --> 0:12:37.040 You know. So when we look at these situations and 0:12:37.080 --> 0:12:40.880 we constantly see the same areas, you know, I know 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:45.600 it's geographical. Stop that, you know, you can't really stop that, 0:12:45.920 --> 0:12:48.680 But there has to be some something that we can 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:52.880 do from a governmental perspective that makes it okay since 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:56.680 we already know the geographical you know, situation that they're 0:12:56.720 --> 0:12:59.600 dealing with, and knowing that they're highly likely to deal 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:03.320 with these hurricanes and these tropical storms. What what systems 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:05.720 are we gonna sit in place to be able to 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:08.480 help them, to to prevent, to do things that you 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:10.920 know that we're already that we ain't behind the eight ball, 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.520 and people are losing their lives and losing their homes 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:16.480 and losing their property so rapidly, and we don't have 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:19.240 anything set up. So I think we got to look 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.120 into that. I think people have to be very intentional. 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:26.760 I think all of those cities and states and countries 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:30.360 who who live in those areas that are prone to 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:35.440 deal with those mass destructions from hurricanes and trafical storms 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.240 should have things in place. And I always say that, 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.480 remember your why the same places keep getting hit and 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:48.200 having the same You know, how can we already know 0:13:48.280 --> 0:13:52.360 that Haiti has that they are earthquakes and stuff happened there? Right? 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:57.000 We know that, we know that there as many environmental 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:02.120 challenges and we know that and punished, so you know that. 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:04.000 I mean, that's a whole other thing. But I'm just 0:14:04.080 --> 0:14:07.520 saying again, it's political. It's who you have in office, 0:14:08.000 --> 0:14:13.720 it's your relationship to America. Unfortunately, and other very powerful 0:14:13.840 --> 0:14:17.440 nations around the world. It's so much that's involved with it, 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:21.480 and you definitely have to understand the politics of how 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:27.080 even in New Orleans, if you notice black people live 0:14:27.160 --> 0:14:30.920 and lower um what do they they call it? Something? 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.480 I think make sure that that we talk about this again. 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:38.320 People who have more resources, they live higher up. So 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:43.360 when the storms come, it impacts the people living in 0:14:43.480 --> 0:14:47.960 the lower belly of the the of Louisiana and of 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:51.160 New Orleans. So this is very it's geographical, but it's 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:56.840 also designed by um, you know. I guess we just 0:14:56.880 --> 0:15:00.240 have to say racism, because racism is what puts us 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:04.119 in certain communities and sort of keeps us in poverty 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.240 and in areas that we can't necessarily get out of. 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.400 And they haven't done anything in terms of making sure 0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:12.720 what I mean. There's been some infrastructure stuff done with 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:17.200 the levies, but it clearly it hasn't been enough. So anyway, 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:23.120 it's all political. Every yeah, you do politics or politics 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:28.720 would do you? That's right. You saw the woman king 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:32.880 and I was all in the uproar about people online 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:37.840 suggesting it be boycott, and so we've been trying to 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:40.480 figure out, first of all, what are they talking because 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:42.040 I don't you know, I'm not gonna sit here and 0:15:42.080 --> 0:15:45.600 say everybody that's talking is wrong, because you know, sometimes 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:48.120 you can get different perspectives. But we did our little 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:52.000 bit of research. We discussed it. They said one too 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:56.920 many feminine men, that the male characters were feminized. Did 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:00.520 you see that? I seen one one guy? You saw 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:04.400 one man? Right? But did you see what? The question 0:16:04.440 --> 0:16:09.080 I asked was It said the male characters with an 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:13.000 S were feminized? Did you feel that there was a 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:16.640 lot I didn't agree with that, Okay, it was it 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.000 was I felt I felt like they were just men 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:23.440 and women. That's me. But you know, wherever I thought 0:16:23.440 --> 0:16:29.760 they were masculine women? How about that? Nothing? Anyway, next 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:32.400 thing was women and men were pitted against one another. 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:38.040 And then then they talked about the history. So the 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:43.960 history component is important, right because there are some people 0:16:44.000 --> 0:16:46.720 who did just because it's coming out of Hollywood, they 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:48.720 don't want to have anything to do with it because 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:53.000 they don't trust the narratives about you know, stories about 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.760 our people. But there are different debates on the history, 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.760 and we're gonna talk about the specifics of it during 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.240 the the interview that we're doing with our guests, but 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:05.840 from I want to know, you know, because I thought 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:09.000 maybe I was tripping and the question that I'm asking, 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:13.920 are we sabotaging because it was another movie? What was 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:15.800 the name of the other movie that they were talking 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:23.639 about boycott? What was Harriot? Dark skinned characters, dark skinned 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:27.520 black women characters? And Viola Davis has been talking about that, 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:32.280 so they were saying that. Then I figured, am I crazy? 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:34.720 But I wanted you and everybody else on our team 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.120 to see it and give your feedback. And no one 0:17:37.240 --> 0:17:40.639 said this film should be boycotted. No, I don't. I 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:42.679 don't see any reason. I didn't see a reason for 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:46.000 having to be boycotted. You know, I think people are 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:50.639 people are are so gun hold on trying to tear 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:52.560 things down, like that's what it is to me, Like 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:57.680 historical there are different historical facts. But when we have movies, 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:01.480 you know, there's a level of entertainment that you add. 0:18:01.560 --> 0:18:04.280 There are levels of things. There will be historical facts 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:07.320 is based on history, and there will be some things 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:11.560 that that don't completely agree with the historical facts that 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:14.000 we know and we understand that. So she'll be able 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:17.840 to take take the history the history and you mix 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:19.840 it with the entertainment to come up with a movie, 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.800 and I think people looking for a movie to be 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:27.080 to t historically correct is just stupid, right, So what 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:28.959 we want to do we want to ask the question 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:32.919 do we think it's sabotage or do we think it 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.680 is reasonable critique? We want you to comment in the 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:38.280 section let us know what do you think? When did 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:41.160 you see the movie? Did you see Harriet? Are you 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:43.879 are we? Are you listening and paying attention because it 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.600 seems only, like she said, a lot of the movies 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:51.520 with dark skinned women are heroes and being amplified. You know, 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:54.280 it seems to have the same level critiques. So are 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.920 we too critical or we overcritical? Or we're looking to 0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:01.080 just sabotage everything that happens that glorify us and empathized 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:04.280 the black women in America and in in in our 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:08.399 entertainment and our historical context when we meet, are we 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.959 doing it too much? Or is it reasonable? Give us 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:15.280 your give us your thoughts on it. Well, I'm sure 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:18.119 our guests today has something to say about us, so 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:23.320 we'll ask him. It's like take me back to Ghana, 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:29.640 oh my lord, experience of what he saw and what 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:33.200 we did while we were there in Ghana. Wow wow 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:35.840 wow and one of the and and my song. We 0:19:35.920 --> 0:19:41.160 have talked so much about how one of the most 0:19:41.359 --> 0:19:46.760 impactful moments was having an opportunity to meet our guests. 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:50.680 That is joining us today and that is Rabbi Cohen 0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:56.160 Nathania Halivi. Oh my, thank you so much for joining 0:19:56.240 --> 0:20:00.639 street politicians today. Thank you, thank you for invited me, 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:05.880 and I look forward to all discussions and exchange today. Yes, now, 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:12.160 you are a rabbi and a priest. You are a 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:16.000 visual artists, You're an art teacher, you're a community leader. 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:20.800 You have a master's in theology and arts education. You 0:20:20.800 --> 0:20:25.080 You've got certificates so many I can't even name a 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:29.960 public speaker historian I think you are. Are you an 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:34.920 anthropologists as well? Yes? I have. UM. You know I'm 0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.600 in the anthropology and received my certificate and I've been 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:40.680 doing that for many years. Um. Well, I've been in 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:43.720 this struggle since UM for fifty This year is forty 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:47.560 nine years. I can say wow from being at Savannah 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:50.239 State College. So that's where all of those lineup of 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:54.640 UM certificates, that experience and all that comes from. Wow. 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:59.840 And again just an overall historian and educator. UM and 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:04.200 and you when when when we visited with you and 0:21:04.240 --> 0:21:10.000 we had our tour of uh the slave Dungeons, I 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:13.400 heard something in your voice and I and it it 0:21:13.440 --> 0:21:16.440 made me say where are you from? You know, because 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:20.679 I could I could tell it wasn't necessarily there was 0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:23.760 something that was real familiar to me and being some 0:21:23.840 --> 0:21:26.720 open lives, you know, sort of like the North Bronx 0:21:26.840 --> 0:21:30.560 and I'm I'm from Harlem, but I've been in the 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.639 North Bronx for a long time. I knew that sound. 0:21:33.760 --> 0:21:36.919 And you said Mount Vernon and I'm like, oh my god, 0:21:37.119 --> 0:21:40.520 you must know my past. The Dr W. Franklin Richardson, 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:43.439 who I eventually talked to about you, and he's like, 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:47.160 that's my brother. And you know, that made it even 0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:49.919 closer to home for us to find not that you 0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:53.000 were actually from New York but living in Ghana. And 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:56.000 I guess the first question that my son and I 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:58.480 discussed that we wanted to ask you is how does 0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:02.240 a man find himself first in Mount Vernon and then 0:22:02.400 --> 0:22:07.400 living in Ghana and educating people? Then well, yeah, that's 0:22:07.400 --> 0:22:10.360 a big question, you know. Um we let me announce 0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:12.439 that right now. We have a group of three hundred 0:22:12.520 --> 0:22:16.720 and fifty African American educators in Ghana right now in 0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:21.240 Cape Coast. And these are all um university and college 0:22:21.280 --> 0:22:25.480 presidents and they're here to study how they can introduce 0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:29.200 African centered education into the curriculums of our black school 0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:32.440 system in America. And so the phenomena of our people 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:35.679 reconnecting with Mother Africa is great. And when I was 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:38.160 in the supposing with them two days ago, they asked 0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:41.640 me that same question. And they also asked me, how 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:43.879 did I, you know, take up this way of life 0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:46.280 and how did I become a Pan Africanist and get 0:22:46.320 --> 0:22:48.560 involved in all the things I've been involved with. And 0:22:48.600 --> 0:22:50.480 I took it back to my route. I told him 0:22:50.680 --> 0:22:53.800 I was born in Mount Running, New York, and Um, 0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:56.199 I was writing a chapter on some of you know, 0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:58.560 the early parts of my life, and I named that chapter. 0:22:59.040 --> 0:23:02.240 When I was young, my mother took me to church 0:23:02.280 --> 0:23:05.480 and my father took me to Hollow So that's the 0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:08.800 name of the chapter. So I got both those um fans. 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:11.400 My mother was very deep and spiritual into the church. 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:14.200 My father was deep in terms of the Hollow Mights 0:23:14.200 --> 0:23:16.760 to Hollom socialite and all of that. And I was 0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:19.919 on those street corners in Hollan every weekend, listening to 0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:23.200 the street corner nationalists and preachers talking about African history 0:23:23.200 --> 0:23:25.520 and African people where you couldn't get that kind of 0:23:25.560 --> 0:23:28.399 knowledge anywhere. And of course to me, it wasn't only knowledge, 0:23:28.400 --> 0:23:33.560 it was inspiration. So that inspiration came UM, and I 0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:36.720 got committed when I was at Savannah State College of Savannah, Georgia, 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:39.159 when I left Mount Brannon High School and went to 0:23:39.200 --> 0:23:43.840 Savannah State UM to study education, and then I say 0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:46.119 I got my calling. Then I wanted to be a 0:23:46.119 --> 0:23:48.199 part of the Black movement. I want to be a 0:23:48.240 --> 0:23:50.760 part of those who made a difference in all people's 0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:53.159 lives and the conditions that we were living in the 0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:56.240 better condition the people of African descent. So I brought 0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:58.560 that back up to Mount Running from Georgia and started 0:23:58.560 --> 0:24:02.520 the Barristeeth Cultural Institute, and UM, we started that institute 0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:05.280 to educate young black children in the history of who 0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:08.160 they were as black people. I was really upset when 0:24:08.200 --> 0:24:10.120 I went to school and realized I spent all that 0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:14.199 time in high school, elementary school, and no significant knowledge 0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:17.800 about African people was transmitted to us through those curriculums, 0:24:17.880 --> 0:24:20.040 and I wanted to make sure that god Um that 0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:22.639 happened to our children at a young age and at 0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:26.200 their foundation level, that we would put into them who 0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:28.480 it is that they are as a people. And so 0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:33.199 that inspiration spurned another form UH inspiration, and that was 0:24:33.520 --> 0:24:36.600