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Speaker 1: Questlove Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic episode

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Speaker 1: was produced by the team at Pandora.

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Speaker 2: What's Up, Everybody, It's Sugar Steve from Team Supreme. June

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Speaker 2: marks Black Music Month. We often speak about it on

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Speaker 2: Questlove Supreme and we've had some of the legends responsible

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Speaker 2: for the recognition on the show. Every day this June,

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Speaker 2: we are running a different episode from the QLs archives

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Speaker 2: to honor the tradition and the tent of Black Music Month.

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Speaker 2: This week we are focusing on some of the great hip.

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Speaker 3: Hop conversations in the ULS catalog.

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Speaker 4: Our leader Questlove has a new book out called hip

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Speaker 4: Hop Is History. Check it out at questlove dot com.

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Speaker 4: Today we are re releasing an interview with q Tip

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Speaker 4: of a tribe called quest whose contributions shaped the direction

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Speaker 4: of hip hop over the last thirty five years.

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Speaker 5: Supremo Sun Suck, Supreme Mo, Role Call, Suprema Suck Suck, Suprema,

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Speaker 5: Roll Call, Suprema son Son, Supremo Roll Call, Suprema Son

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Speaker 5: Son Supremo Roller.

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Speaker 3: What's love going, Ramble, Yeah, what's love going? Gampbell?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Q Tip not leaving it? Yeah, he tells me a

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Speaker 3: crookedly sip.

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Speaker 7: Supremo, So something Supremo son sign.

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Speaker 3: My name is Fante. Yeah, this is the squad. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: the phone is ringing.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Supremo, roll call Suprema, Son Supremo roll call.

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Speaker 3: My name is Sugar, Yeah, Sugar Steve. Yeah, I am

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Speaker 3: so backwards. I stop and breathe Suprema.

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Speaker 8: Something something Supremo, roll call Supremo something so Supremo roll call.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna pay Bill.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, live in the dream. Yeah, fucking cute, Tip Man. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: Quest Love Supreme.

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Speaker 8: Roll call Suprema some some Suprema roll called Suprema something

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Speaker 8: something Supremo roll call afternoon.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well US fans, Yeah, this is boss Bill. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Trump called question.

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Speaker 8: Supremo son So Supremo, roll Supreme, Son Supreme roll.

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Speaker 10: It's my ear. Yeah, I'm very excited. Yeah, Tip is here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a ladies inviting O.

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Speaker 7: Supreme roll Suprema something Supremo roll call.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, what's your appraisal? Yeah, I have a cold. Yeah

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Speaker 10: my voice extra nasal ro call.

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Speaker 3: Suprema so some Supreme, So.

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Speaker 7: Supremo, Supremo, roll Suprima Supreme.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another edition of Quest Love Supreme.

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Speaker 1: I am your host quest love. Uh we have Froan Tickeolo.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 11: Uh man, it's a beautiful day in New York City.

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Speaker 11: It's a little cold out, Yeah, it's un dropped the

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Speaker 11: hawk then came out January.

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Speaker 3: What do you expect. I'm glad.

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Speaker 11: I'm glad because I was worried for a minute, but

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Speaker 11: now I think winter is here in full force, really

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Speaker 11: full force anyway.

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Speaker 3: But no, no, no for a while. I mean because

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Speaker 3: I mean in at least in North Carolina.

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Speaker 11: I mean up in like November, late November we had

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Speaker 11: a couple of seventy degree days, so New York.

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Speaker 3: I'm good, You're right.

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Speaker 1: I mean December was cold as shit. I remember one

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Speaker 1: particularly December it was like really really cool. But in

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Speaker 1: January it's even colder. Yeah, I'm glad.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad winters here to you know, get the get

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Speaker 3: my get my body right. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 11: I'm about forty pounds in the stomach virus away from

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Speaker 11: my ideal weight.

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Speaker 3: So I'm working on it. So that stomach virus is

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Speaker 3: gonna get you through. That's that's gona give me.

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Speaker 11: It's gonna give me to my to I'm in my

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Speaker 11: jurrial avert stage right now, that stomach virus gonna get

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Speaker 11: me to my Anthony Anderson.

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Speaker 3: There's always like smooth moved tea or something. No, man,

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Speaker 3: that's just cameras. No really, the stomach virus.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, stomach virus will take you. It'll get you

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Speaker 1: some yogurt. How will you get the stomach I don't

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Speaker 1: know how I'll get it.

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Speaker 3: I got that is, I got kids.

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Speaker 9: I'm about to get front cutis just hold on a minute,

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Speaker 9: just like it could be within the next five minutes.

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Speaker 1: You guys are basically saying that you will hope that

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Speaker 3: Well, no, that's him.

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Speaker 11: I necessarily hope it has depends. But if it did happen,

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Speaker 11: I can't say that would be mad about it. It

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Speaker 10: This like the holiday, the extra holiday weight and all

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Speaker 3: And just you know, just stress weight. Smooth move tea

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Speaker 10: Of some of that home two boxes.

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Speaker 12: Nah, I don't I know.

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Speaker 10: I don't do the detox tease, I don't do that plan.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I just you know, cut back, virus, lift and

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Speaker 11: get a stomach virus, you know what I mean, A little,

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Speaker 11: a little not ro virus is just a man get

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Speaker 6: I got the stomach virus a couple years ago, drop

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Speaker 6: like fifteen pounds and then didn't come back.

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Speaker 10: Oh my god, fifteen pounds. I'm glad you alive.

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Speaker 11: I think I think didn't. Wasn't this a thing like

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Speaker 11: in the twenties or something where they would give no,

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Speaker 11: like tapeworms, Like well, people would get bled do tapeworms

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Speaker 11: for people go to Brazil right now for that, Like.

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Speaker 3: And just what are you seriously? Yeah, dead ass. It

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Speaker 3: was just like people would do it. Tapeworms would do

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Speaker 13: Cool skult, not the hot burning the light bulb. It's

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Speaker 13: like five different. It's a lot of Yeah, no, it's

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Speaker 13: a lot of ways to lose Beyonce lemonade.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, other than eat right in and breakout, because no

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Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, yeah, the waist trainers just gonna have all

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Speaker 11: these people fucked up. Nah, we don't do none of that.

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Speaker 11: Why we want to do that? We could just you know,

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Speaker 11: we don't want to work out to eat right. So yeah,

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Speaker 11: if I get the summer virus and you know, stay

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Speaker 11: Blackish Anthony Anderson.

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Speaker 3: I'm life Anthony Anderson right.

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Speaker 11: Now, but hopefully i'll be I'll be Blackish Anthony Andersen

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Speaker 3: I hope to meet you there, bro.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so you I've been abstaining this, this has

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm doing it's I've made it through.

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Speaker 14: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I made it through the at least what I call

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Speaker 1: the the underground tunnel, which was the first fifteen days

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Speaker 1: of avoiding sugar, avoiding flour, bread, gluten, fried foods.

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Speaker 3: Are you angry, don't? I don't know, just one day? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know what?

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Speaker 7: You know what?

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Speaker 3: You know what the stepback to all that is.

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Speaker 1: I've been snapping at more people than normal withdrawal like clear.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a clear mind or just

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Speaker 1: like my boxing gloves might be in my future, like

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Speaker 15: Are you past the cravings phase? Are you still craving?

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Speaker 1: I was dreaming heavily of food, Like, you know that's

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Speaker 1: bad when you're just you know, dreaming of a pound cake?

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Speaker 15: Were you dreaming of it or were you dreaming of

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Speaker 3: I was just dreaming of it. Like you know that

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Speaker 3: that intimate's cake that dad used to.

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Speaker 1: My dad was the kind of dude that would measure

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Speaker 1: like what the family wouldn't take, Like he have the

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Speaker 11: So yeah, that's that's as some real black daddy shit.

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Speaker 11: That's real though. There I'm with you on that.

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Speaker 3: You don't measure your shit?

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Speaker 11: Nah, I don't, I mean most of the time because

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Speaker 11: for me with sweets, I particularly buy them in very

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Speaker 11: if I buy it, we gotta kill it today. So

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Speaker 11: I let my kids go in, Like if I buy

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Speaker 11: like cupcakes or whatever, it's like, all right, we're gonna

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Speaker 11: go in today, and then that's it, because if you

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Speaker 11: keep it around and you eat it day after day

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Speaker 11: after day, then that's how.

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Speaker 3: You, you know, set the bad pressure exactly.

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Speaker 11: If you just going one day maybe maybe once twice

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Speaker 11: a month, maybe you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So even when you were on tour, now forget your kids,

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Speaker 1: your bandmates. Some of the worst roots band fights ever

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Speaker 1: over food. Oh in the name of food brouh. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like we would. I remember, I guess the period where

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Speaker 1: we just covered almond milk instead of soy milk. Vanilla

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Speaker 1: soy milk was. And I remember, shit was about to

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Speaker 1: be set off because it was like I put my

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Speaker 1: it was either Hubb or Camal, like they put their

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Speaker 3: Phostle, Yeah, it was. It was fade. It was almost

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Speaker 11: Tours would be because particularly if you were on the

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Speaker 11: nowhere and you've been thinking about food. Yeah, you've been

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Speaker 11: the refrigerating.

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Speaker 3: That shit ain't there.

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Speaker 1: You're basically describing Chicago to Denver. For for most for

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Speaker 1: on that tour, you know your home can be your

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Speaker 1: all of the records that you went shopping with, all

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Speaker 1: the closes, the sneakers, right, you don't have to ship

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Speaker 1: them home from like Mexico, you can. You know, you're

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Speaker 3: Your way back to the East coast.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, with with the touring dynamic, there's a whole

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Speaker 1: being considerate of food factor that not many people getting

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Speaker 1: I suspect that that's probably one of the prime reasons

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Speaker 1: why they're more solo accident group accidents.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I can believe it.

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Speaker 11: I mean I tell people all the time, if you

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Speaker 11: with them or tour with them, like, because you can't hide,

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Speaker 11: like whatever your vices are, whatever the fuck shit you

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Speaker 11: got with you, if you it's gonna come out.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna come come out and watch. Oh my god.

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Speaker 11: You can't hide, bro, you can't hide. So yeah, if

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Speaker 15: Of I think it's important you know that it's inspirational

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Speaker 3: I mean, look at it. It's like more for me.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't think you either you're a starving

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Speaker 3: But then you talk about like checkers, I have the

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Speaker 15: You really want to lose weight, I'll tell you how.

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Speaker 16: I lost thirty pounds weed, cigarettes and coffee diabetes.

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Speaker 6: But for real, you you're right for those Checkers, huh.

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Speaker 15: What is Checkers?

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Speaker 3: Checkers is fast food. It's fast food.

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Speaker 15: It's burgers, fries, and cola.

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Speaker 3: There is I feel like in most most college town

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Speaker 1: But you know, speaking speaking of the group Dynamic, today's

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Speaker 1: is it before we get started? Yeah, you're gonna tell

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Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, don't get for twenty years,

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Speaker 3: twenty years, but I don't remember. I don't really don't.

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Speaker 3: Sampling don't matter no more. You can reveal I know

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Speaker 10: I'm not being like that. I totally would reveal it.

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Speaker 10: Like I really don't remember. I know it's like an

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Speaker 1: Swallow one of those random like library record things. No no, no, yeah,

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Speaker 10: It could be you know, well, it's not definitely not that.

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Speaker 10: Let me see. Oh I'm feeling like it's Steve Swallow.

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Speaker 3: So Paul us a guitar player that pauls.

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Speaker 10: Can we talk about that.

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Speaker 3: You paused itself? I don't know, but I just just

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Speaker 3: it's Ho's fault.

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Speaker 1: I think pause is Ho's biggest contribution to hip hop.

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Speaker 1: Well it sucks, okay, I agree, I agree more pause

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Speaker 10: But but I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I can't remember.

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Speaker 2: Man, can't you like Shazama?

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Speaker 3: Sample?

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Speaker 1: And uh, it doesn't play long enough if it weren't,

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Speaker 10: The minute it here is like a vocals then it

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Speaker 3: I've heard everything. I heard it was red Halt.

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Speaker 10: I heard it was It's definitely not that. It's definitely

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Speaker 10: It's definitely some em ship. Damn when I find it.

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Speaker 10: I promise you if you saw the album cover, would

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Speaker 10: you know what? I wouldn't. I'd have to listen to it.

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Speaker 3: Man, do you remember the day you made it? Or

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Speaker 3: This is one of those like mindless five minutes.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I just went from I just came from record

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Speaker 3: Special had a studio called Dollar Dollar Cabs.

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Speaker 10: Yeah yeah, so what what yeah?

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Speaker 3: What was that? Seriously? Yeah he talked about it in

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Dollar Cab Lab, that's where we did it at

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Speaker 10: What did you?

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Speaker 10: And I had to I had to break out, so

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Speaker 10: I just like do this ship on him like five minutes,

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm realizing that some of the best beats in

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, so, of course the more help I'm gonna find, I.

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Speaker 10: Mean, you know so much because he put it in

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Speaker 3: Yes, like, there's there's certain samples that I can't find that.

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Speaker 10: Ship I got everything, Okay, great, you can work to do.

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Speaker 3: All right, we will find it. So coffee, Well wait,

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Speaker 3: do you know that the sky sample?

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Speaker 10: Of course that's Eric Dolphie.

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Speaker 10: That is not Grant Green.

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Speaker 10: Yes, skypage is Eric Dolphie out to lunch you Jesus?

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, finally something that's how even the

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Speaker 1: So tip, sir, I know you're tired of answer these

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Speaker 1: the name of the high school that you guys, Mary Bertram? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what I hear so much about this school? Was it

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Speaker 10: It was a business school.

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Speaker 1: So you aspired it, like when you were in first grade,

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Speaker 1: You're like, yo, I want to go to Mary Bertram

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Speaker 10: No, no, actually, uh what happened was my sister was

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Speaker 10: They still do that. Y. So she got like one

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Speaker 10: So my dad wouldn't let it go. My dad was

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Speaker 10: So my dad was like old school.

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Speaker 10: So my average was cool, good enough, and I had

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Speaker 3: And there was safe.

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Speaker 10: No, it was not safe. That's why I was getting

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Speaker 3: Brother J. That was brother Brother J is the rapper.

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Speaker 3: He always talk like this. They always they were like

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Speaker 10: Like nice J never lost it. J still got it nice.

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Speaker 10: His voice just crass, you know what I'm saying. So

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kiarana always jokes that Ali and Mad Yes, but

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Speaker 1: she always jokes that Ali always had the Gucci clutch, yeah,

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Speaker 1: like but she called she called it the fixed briefcase

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Speaker 1: because what was in that bag, like he just wanted.

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Speaker 10: Now it was a clutch. He he had a burner

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Speaker 10: alas say Mohammed, Yeah from bed stye do or die?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 10: I mean that's how I was back then.

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Speaker 3: I always say, your mom is like the fourteenth disciple

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Speaker 10: Like angeloises and like, okay, you know he used to

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Speaker 10: I did not out Ali, but uh yeah. School was

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Speaker 10: I don't know how it was for you guys, but

441
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 10: back then, like that was for us. That was like

442
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 10: our kind of coming of age thing.

443
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 3: It was.

444
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 10: It was a it was a true place, especially for

445
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 10: me just geographically being that far away from home. It

446
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 10: was a place that I could really uh at you

447
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 10: out you know what I wanted to do or who

448
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 10: I wanted to be. Yeah, you know what I'm saying

449
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 10: because I went to school for computer science because I

450
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,320
Speaker 10: wanted to just like be a program designer.

451
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,639
Speaker 3: Did you make some like lifelong friends too?

452
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 10: You start? Oh yeah, man, it's like, that's everything.

453
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 1: You're probably one of the figures, one of the few

454
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: figures from the Renaissance hip hop period that doesn't have

455
00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: a I dropped out a school narrative. It's like, yeah,

456
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 1: pretty much eighty of all of our hip hop favorites

457
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: have a story that leads to and I just dropped

458
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: out of high school and went straight to that.

459
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 10: School post and those guys.

460
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just saying that.

461
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 10: Well, Mace I think dropped out.

462
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 3: Okay, I see, Mace may have dropped out, But it's

463
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 3: just weird.

464
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: It's rare that you hear of make, you know, liking

465
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: high school when you know, I actually enjoyed this experience

466
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 1: because for most people, I mean, high school's none but

467
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: a precursor to prison for some for some you know, So,

468
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: how did I mean obviously you, you and five were

469
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: childhood friends, and you and Ali were high school friends.

470
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: Like how did well, how did Jerobi enter the picture?

471
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: And how did the twain meet? Like, how did you guys?

472
00:25:53,119 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 10: Jerobi was he lived on five? Uh, his mom his

473
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 10: mom's crib was like on my side of the tracks,

474
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 10: you know, so track thing so and his grandparents' house

475
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 10: was on the other side of the tracks and when

476
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 10: he would go to the other side of the tracks,

477
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 10: that's what Jerobi. That's where he met Jerobi. Okay, so

478
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 10: that was like around twelve thirteen. So I knew Jerobi

479
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 10: when he was probably like twelve eleven. That's when I

480
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 10: first met him.

481
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So at this point, even though you're going

482
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: for like in high school, was it just like okay,

483
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: we're just fans of music.

484
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 3: But you know, there were no grand designs to start

485
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 3: a band or become.

486
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, there was. I mean we were pretty we were

487
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 10: pretty resolute and what we wanted to do.

488
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 3: By what point, like ten eleven?

489
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 10: Wha. I mean I've said before another interviews. You know,

490
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 10: Fife put the bug in me. We was like nine. Wow,

491
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying. We were eleven twelve like

492
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 10: just wrap. I mean we were goofing, but was definitely

493
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 10: rapping and definitely like you know how I don't know

494
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 10: if other kids would do this, but you know you

495
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 10: have your pad and you right out what the name

496
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 10: of the group was, who was in it?

497
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you always you remember that used to draw

498
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 3: album covers? Yeah, yeah, brother, we did the exact same

499
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: thing right right.

500
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 10: The watch yeah, yeah, the whole ship. Like we did

501
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 10: a little I remember one time we did we did

502
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 10: this demo. Uh okay, this is freshman year. No, it

503
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,880
Speaker 10: was tenth grade. It was tenth grade. So we were

504
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 10: like fifteen. So Jerobi was going to tech, Fife was

505
00:27:55,640 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 10: going to Springfield in Queens and me and Ali was

506
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 10: in Birch or whatever. So on the weekends, you know,

507
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 10: our hostel a little bit, and for my money, I

508
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 10: would like scrape up and I would I looked literally

509
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 10: in the Yellow Pages for like a rehearsal studio. So

510
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 10: I found this one in the city on Fourteenth Street

511
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 10: called Giant Rehearsal Studios. Saved up the money and every

512
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 10: weekend we'd go there and Ali would bring his four

513
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 10: track that belonged to Uncle Mike, and Uncle Mike used

514
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 10: to work at Columbia and stuff. So we'd go there

515
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 10: and we would record like our little routines. So my

516
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 10: sister was dating Skeef Hanslom and Skef and Jazzy used

517
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 10: to come by the house like see my sister or whatever.

518
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 10: Jazzy j So I was like, damn want to be

519
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 10: a sulation. Oh my gosh, you know, and I know

520
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 10: it was just like we would be in there working,

521
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 10: work and work and working, and we had like this horrible,

522
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 10: these little fucking, wretched, little fucking songs that we worked on.

523
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 3: And everybody, what was the loop? What did you payback?

524
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,959
Speaker 10: And we had and we had a drummer his name

525
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 10: was Anton shouts out to a boogie. It's the o

526
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 10: G a boogie from the brooks.

527
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 13: Uh.

528
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 10: He was because he was he was drumming in school whatever.

529
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 10: So I was like, yo, so you're gonna play the

530
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 10: beat over this and it was called a routine routine.

531
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 3: And he has your rugby with that beato, so y'all

532
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 3: just rhyme over the back. Yes, it was pretty bad.

533
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 10: And Jazzy and Scheff, through my assistance and bucking my

534
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 10: sister day came one Saturday. They looked like they were hungover,

535
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 10: like they had they I don't know, maybe Halem World

536
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 10: or something was the night before and they came by

537
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 10: and listened to it, and Jazz he was like, Yo,

538
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 10: that shit was kind of whack.

539
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: Y'all.

540
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 10: Gotta keep working on that ship, wow, really keep working.

541
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 13: Like he saw something, he heard something.

542
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 10: I hope. So, oh, maybe he was just being nice,

543
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 10: because you know, we wanted up bang one of my

544
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 10: sister's friends. But that was kind of like but we

545
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 10: weren't discouraged by it. We just okay, like we were

546
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 10: some really industrious little bastards man, so we kind of

547
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 10: like had an idea To answer your question, So was

548
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 10: this eighty six, eighty eighty? This is eighty five eighty five? Yeah, wait,

549
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 10: eighty five, eighty six? Yeah, it was probably like eighty

550
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 10: six eighty six.

551
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: It had to be in eighty six, So I was like,

552
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: even the idea of rhyming over a record, is that

553
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: even the idea back in eighty five?

554
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 3: Like well, and by eighty six samples were like, yeah,

555
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 3: that was that was all you had. I think you

556
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 3: had that if you didn't have a drum machine.

557
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 10: I mean I remember, I mean look, so what year

558
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 10: was the biz Dance?

559
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: Eighty eighty six, seven, eighty six, a little bit more.

560
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was like sund.

561
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 3: Okay, So.

562
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: What was the first step to seriousness as in, I'm

563
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: gonna save up and get this drum machine?

564
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 3: Or because what I didn't know?

565
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: I only found that recently that you guys actually were

566
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: thinking about signing to Geffen.

567
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, back in eighty nine, I read Yeah, I forgot

568
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 3: where I read that.

569
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 10: But because Jeff Fenster gave us, well, Glenn Freeman was

570
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 10: really the orange pin to the whole things. So, you know,

571
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 10: I had worked with Jungle. You know, we were in

572
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 10: high school and they were finishing up the album.

573
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: So they were the Jungle Brothers in her high school.

574
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: I mean Jim Brownski Era was in high school. So

575
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: while they were in the high school Jim Brownski's album,

576
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: what was like like for them to.

577
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 10: Crazy because even for us, like in Philly, like it

578
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 10: must have been crazy.

579
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I can imagine in high school, high school

580
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 1: having a record out the Jungle Bros.

581
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, that was kind of ill.

582
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 5: It was.

583
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 10: It was wild because we were finishing up the album

584
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 10: while I believe we were in twelfth grade.

585
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 3: And finishing up the debut album for people. So wow, no, no, no.

586
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 10: Finishing up of Jungle, gotcha. So you know I did

587
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 10: some ship on it. I did uh promo, well, I

588
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 10: did promo that was eleventh grade, and.

589
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 3: Then Time and then Time yeah, and then promo two.

590
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, in Time that was for the album and Black

591
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 10: as Black did that and I the first record I

592
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 10: ever mixed was straight out the Jungle, So it was

593
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 10: me and Red Alert and Tony D and Mike. We

594
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 10: actually mixed that record. That was the first time and

595
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 10: I remember yeah and Red and Red was like, so

596
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 10: this is what you do, tip, So these are the faders,

597
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 10: so I already equed it. We got it sounded right.

598
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 10: So before we're gonna do a couple of takes, and

599
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 10: I want you to ride this up and then when

600
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 10: we hit this, I need you to ride the next

601
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 10: fader up, but don't bring it to don't bring it

602
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 10: past this point. They had the tape on it. Don't

603
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 10: bring it past this point. And then after that, I'm

604
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 10: gonna let you do one with If you want to

605
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 10: do a different one, then you just do it different.

606
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 10: But for the first couple, like Red was just like

607
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 10: Red Alert.

608
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: You the automated system, Well it was.

609
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 10: It was I never did it before, right, you know

610
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 10: what I'm saying. Mike had did him and Aff were

611
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 10: doing by himself. That was like my first time actually

612
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 10: mixing a joint, you know what I'm saying. I was crazy,

613
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 10: like intimidated, but excited about it because I felt like, wow,

614
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 10: this is fucking Red Alert.

615
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 3: And in high school at high school, so he was

616
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 3: of legend status o man, he was.

617
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 10: I was just telling my assistant as we were talking about,

618
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 10: you know the history of this studio. Like right across

619
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 10: the street was Latin Quarter. There's a parking lot on

620
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 10: forty eighth Street. That's what Latin Quarter was. He's wearing

621
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 10: Old Quad City, right, yeah, Old Quad Studios.

622
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 3: I call this Tupac Central. Yeah really, so right.

623
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 10: Across the street was Latin Quarter and that was where

624
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 10: Red was. Like he bought the whole Harlem and Bronx

625
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 10: ship to Midtown and he was ruling ship like that

626
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 10: was I mean, even Magic and Molly and them was

627
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 10: like on the radio, they was the Dawn. Tan's the

628
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 10: thing that kind of took to me, in my just

629
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 10: opinion that had read elevated is because he had a

630
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 10: place to play. Literally after he went, after he was

631
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 10: on the radio, everybody would flock to the quarters or

632
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 10: go to the square.

633
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 3: So that was up the block.

634
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 10: So Red was, Yes, he was supreme status, Like you

635
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 10: will go to the Latin Quarter yeah, hell yeah, I have,

636
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 10: I got I got a lot of Latin Quarta stories.

637
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

638
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 1: I was going to say everyone that's I've been trying

639
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: to get the definitive Latin Quarter story out of people, right.

640
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: And but the thing that amazes me the most about

641
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: the legend of the Latin Quarter, right is the fact.

642
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 3: That you go there knowing that someone's going to know.

643
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 10: Well, I mean that was his old joint Latin Quarter,

644
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 10: so he transformed into something different.

645
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, you really know about it that we don't know.

646
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: But no, no, I'm just saying that like our Latin Quarter,

647
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: and Philly was a place called After Midnight, of which

648
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: my parents were like, hell, no, people get shot there.

649
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 3: No, you ain't going. But everyone that has done this

650
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: show has a Latin Quarter story.

651
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 10: Was Whose house was it?

652
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: Though?

653
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 10: Was that like a schooly d? Yeah, I mean it.

654
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 3: It was. The The reason why.

655
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,720
Speaker 1: The reason why After Midnight was so special was because

656
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: at the point where MSG stopped hosting hip hop after

657
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: the death all that stuff, the closest you could get.

658
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: You couldn't even get to the spectrum. Sometimes you could,

659
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 1: but like the East Coast Mecca least and Chuck The's

660
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: Eyes was like always After Midnight, Lady B hosted that.

661
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 10: Yeah exactly, But it's just that people don't talk about

662
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 10: her enough.

663
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 1: But every but every person that talks on the show

664
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: about Latin Quarter they I guess the rewards of hearing

665
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: hip hop far outweighed the risk of getting shot or

666
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,840
Speaker 1: getting your chain taken or it was exciting.

667
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: No, you know what I'm saying, Like, well you went

668
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 3: with Red, obviously correct.

669
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 10: Violators. We'd be carrying carrying his records. The first time

670
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 10: I met Chris Slider, who was carrying Red's records. So

671
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 10: later I became you know, after I was became the

672
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 10: dude whould always carry REDS records. Yeah, well it was

673
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 10: Chris and he would do that for a while. Then

674
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 10: as Jungle started popping, I was still around, So then

675
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 10: I eventually became REDS Record.

676
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 3: But it wasn't like you had to wait outside for

677
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 3: an hour to get in an I would meet up

678
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 3: with a f And.

679
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 10: The first time I went to the Last quarters, right,

680
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 10: there was a sabarro across the streets, pizza. There was

681
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 10: probably the scene. Yeah, right, thinking about that, so.

682
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 3: Exactly.

683
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 10: So we're on the corner, so it's hot. It's like

684
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 10: must have been one hundred degrees that day. So we're

685
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 10: out there, right, it's like twelve thirty. So AF and

686
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 10: I standing in the corner and he was like, yeah,

687
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 10: I'm waiting for my man on Greg. He said about

688
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 10: Greg Nice. He's like, Now, at the time, Greg Nice

689
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 10: was the beat box for Empcy Search and they were

690
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,479
Speaker 10: on Select. And at first I see they've come around

691
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 10: the corner. Search has this crazy high top and he's

692
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 10: eating watermelon from you know those you know when you

693
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 10: go to the delis and you go to the fruit bars,

694
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 10: and he got the watermelon. He's like and was like, Yo,

695
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 10: this nigger crazy Yota, this is Search.

696
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 3: This is Greg.

697
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 10: Greg was like what what up? He's like up, He's

698
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 10: like this Search. We're all kids, you know what I'm saying.

699
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 10: And Searches they're like yo, what up?

700
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 3: Homeboy?

701
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 10: And the water bellon juices. I'm like, this dude is wow.

702
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 10: I didn't know see ship. Then d Nice comes up.

703
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 10: He had his BDP ship on it whatever, his little

704
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 10: letther BDP Dapper Dan Joint.

705
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 3: He's like, ah, was like a Derek. He's like, yoah,

706
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: what up?

707
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 10: What up y'all. He's like, yeah, it's cute.

708
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 3: Tip.

709
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 10: He's like, what up?

710
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: Slight pause, yes if d Nice who okay, I'm sorry

711
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: my fault. D Nice is team right alert, Yeah, I'm

712
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: getting my yeah right right. It's I'm thinking wait, d

713
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: Nice is not supposed to be there. That's the wrong territory,

714
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: you know what.

715
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 10: You like that really because all of the juice crews,

716
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 10: I mean, it wasn't really like that was more of

717
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 10: an instigation of magics. They always kind of.

718
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 3: Like around when okay took so so.

719
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 10: D k and A was like, Okay, we're gonna go in,

720
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 10: and Derek was like, now I'm about to meet Caine

721
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 10: and I was just like, I just straightened up his

722
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 10: shit because you know, Caine is Caine at the moment,

723
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 10: he's tears shit up and he It was just off

724
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 10: of just rhyming with Biz and then you would always

725
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 10: hear about this dude Caine, like in the streets whatever,

726
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 10: in the circles. So we go across the street on

727
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 10: the side of the block where Latin Quarter was. We

728
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 10: leave the to borrow All you can eat station and

729
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 10: we go to the that'side and then about fifteen minutes later,

730
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 10: you know, we smoking whatever. Fifteen minutes later, Limo pulls

731
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 10: up and his cane and he's in a limo and

732
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 10: he's like, what up, Derek, what up?

733
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 3: Y'all?

734
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 10: Everybody's like, yo, what up? Whatever. We're just like standing

735
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 10: back and he was like, yeah, yeah, so play me

736
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 10: that joint and sudden he was like his man, I

737
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 10: guess was sitting on it was a super stretch, so

738
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 10: I guess the uh the tape player was towards the partition,

739
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 10: towards the front. So his man presses play and it's raw. Wow,

740
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 10: it's it's rushing out of the fucking window and it's

741
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 10: just everything just got just at that moment, like how

742
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 10: we just had just the second how everything kind of

743
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 10: got still was like that for like four minutes. It

744
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 10: just got still. So you heard pre raw like yes,

745
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 10: and and Derek was like as soon as it came on,

746
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 10: shouts out to d that's my brother. He was like,

747
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 10: oh yeah, it has to beat the sandy and the

748
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 10: mused talking about I'll take your man and so okay, okay,

749
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 10: he has said that, and k was like, yeah, but

750
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 10: it ain't this ship and it was that that ship rocked.

751
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 3: Yo.

752
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 10: I was I couldn't think of nothing else like and

753
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 10: then he just drove ae, I got the show whatever,

754
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 10: and he just drove off in the night. He met

755
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 10: him there to play him raw and that was just

756
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 10: that was one of my Latin quarter moment.

757
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:17,479
Speaker 3: Sorry, No, that's exactly that was a Q tip exclusive. Wow.

758
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 3: So wow, okay, that was that was a happy, a

759
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 3: great you know, makes it nobody moment. Waiting, I was like,

760
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 3: oh man, he please don't live it say he said,

761
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 3: nigga please.

762
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: All right, if you're just joining us, we're chatting with

763
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 1: the rapper, actor, producer DJ member of a legendary hip hop.

764
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: Group a tripholl Quest Q Tip.

765
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: The group released their critically claimed sixth studio album, We

766
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: Got It from Here, Thank You for Your Service in

767
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: November of twenty sixteen.

768
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: Have you guys ever performed at the Latin Quarter? No,

769
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 3: we didn't know.

770
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 10: Okay, okay, I saw a lot of performances there, though, what.

771
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 3: Did you see? I know you saw like a lot

772
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 3: of first I saw well, I.

773
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 10: Saw mc light uh cram to understand you. And then

774
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 10: when she got off stage, I tried to kick it

775
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 10: to her and she was kind of happening and we

776
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 10: went on a date ship. Yeah, okay, that's what's up.

777
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 10: You got that?

778
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 3: No, but that but that was it was.

779
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 10: It was it was early. I mean, you know, it

780
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 10: was like Crean and said she was That was the

781
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 10: first one of the first that I saw audio to

782
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 10: do before they did that. I like cherries. So was

783
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 10: it grape sauce hour?

784
00:43:58,880 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

785
00:43:59,160 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 14: Yeah?

786
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, wow? Did that fly over with y'all? Though?

787
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 3: Was there a little bit of have you seen.

788
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: A legendary act perform at the Latin Quarter that didn't

789
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: have their sit together at that moment? I mean, I've

790
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: heard conflicting reports of public enemies first time.

791
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 10: Yeah, I didn't see that night. I didn't see that night,

792
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 10: but I heard that that that.

793
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 3: Was about Chuck's on the mission.

794
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 11: He said that was it didn't go well and he

795
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 11: said it was actually Melly Mail in the back was like, yeah,

796
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 11: he's like Mail had.

797
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: Like the big deb yo. These niggas as wax yol.

798
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: It was ill because you yo mail is.

799
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 10: I mean, we all know right right it's not Rushmore architect,

800
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 10: But at that time it was like a generation.

801
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: The old guy in the back and it was but

802
00:44:59,160 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: it wasn't that.

803
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 10: But we never viewed him. We always looked at him

804
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 10: as yo, that's Melly Mau like your mayor busy be

805
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 10: got suicide. He's ringing off like we were still kind

806
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 10: of fucking with him. I feel like Mel kind of felt, no, well,

807
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 10: he would come and will always instigate the fact that

808
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 10: he was older and we were young niggas. Y'all young,

809
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 10: y'all young niggas and y'all young boys. I'll be seeing

810
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 10: him in the court be like like with the muscles,

811
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 10: I'm flexing out there.

812
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:30,440
Speaker 3: Everybody. Yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo

813
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 3: yo yo yo you.

814
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 10: Young ya young niggas don't know what you know?

815
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: All this ship and wasn't And I saw the battle, yeah,

816
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars battle.

817
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 10: Yeah with KRS. And he got up on stage.

818
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 3: This is meiling male versus Kress.

819
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, I saw that ship and mel was on

820
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 10: stage doing push ups and ship.

821
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: Like jack.

822
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: Yo.

823
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: It was Easter.

824
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 10: It was the Easter Easter Sunday. And you know, He's like,

825
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 10: I'm real, I'm a real nigga from the bunks ship.

826
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying. You know, Yeah, I'm not

827
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 10: trying to play. I'm just telling you.

828
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 3: I'm just saying it because I don't like it sounds

829
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 3: just like him.

830
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,760
Speaker 13: That's why I'm laughing, because.

831
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 10: That niggas.

832
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 3: An old man's trip.

833
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 10: He is fucking can open and ship on barehand and

834
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 10: type ship.

835
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: One time, one time I did a documentary. I did

836
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 1: a documentary which one time we were not.

837
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 3: I was in the documentary once in my life. You

838
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 3: need a sound effect that I was in a documentary once.

839
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: No Man had admitted that when he was doing White

840
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 1: Lines he was on coke, that he was cooked up.

841
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 3: So I have to mention that, Wait, you do you

842
00:46:59,080 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 3: remember this?

843
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 10: Like did not know this?

844
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 3: No No so at Tasty Treats.

845
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 10: Oh he came to Tasty treat.

846
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: Dog Okay, like I mentioned in the documentary. Well yeah,

847
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, well the ironic thing about White Lines was

848
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: anti drug message.

849
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, dog, I got I got a better one.

850
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:33,279
Speaker 1: So there was that moment where I was djaying and

851
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: then y'all mean was like, hey, yo, Mellye's mail. Melly

852
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 1: Mel want to talk to you one second because he

853
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: said that because you said him, because you said he was.

854
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 3: On crack, because and I was like what I looked

855
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 3: to the right. It was this mail with like missiling

856
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 3: man status. Though, yeah, this is hell. Like wound up

857
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 3: being around for like two or three years at every event.

858
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we squashed it, but then he just came

859
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: to every event, at every Okay player event.

860
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 3: He noticed that wait, he was there at the Christmas

861
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: party with.

862
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 10: He used to be seeing Melle bell in there.

863
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 3: Like yeah, wearing lime greens. I love shout out to Mel.

864
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 3: Mel is a legend.

865
00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 10: Oh my goodness.

866
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 17: Yeah.

867
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 3: So all right, see, I want to stay at the latt.

868
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 3: Got it got that quarter, We.

869
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 10: Got enough, I think we got But anyway, I'll finished

870
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 10: this up. That krs. You know, Mel had said some

871
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 10: rap whatever and he was like, you're supreme and he

872
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,480
Speaker 10: hit the floor, was doing like push ups and they

873
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 10: threw the beat on it. I forget what the beat was,

874
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 10: and all I can remember is Kris was hitting that

875
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 10: rund from poetry? Right, how did this start? Let us begin? No, no, no, no,

876
00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 10: no no no, that's my philosophy. Poetry, the poetry.

877
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:07,959
Speaker 3: You stop.

878
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, he say something now he put the mic down

879
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 10: to him.

880
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 3: Thought so it was like one of them, it was.

881
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 3: It was over for real.

882
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 10: Niggas start fighting. Niggas got they shut the ship down,

883
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 10: the normal quarter like it was just quiet.

884
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 3: It was. It was wild. Were you there for the

885
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 3: last the quote last night?

886
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 10: That was the last night?

887
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 3: Everybody day one day, normal.

888
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 10: Easter Sunday when that ship happened and niggas the violets

889
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 10: got into it, and I'm telling you that was the

890
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 10: last night.

891
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: Everyone has a last night at the last quarter, like

892
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 1: Faith Newman had her last.

893
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 3: Night, like her last night? Like what was her last night?

894
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 3: What she said? Right? I think it was I can't remember,

895
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 3: but she.

896
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: Said, wasn't there for the last night? She said, a

897
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: fight broke? I remember she said. It was like all this,

898
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,240
Speaker 1: we need to have that Hunter to finish the story

899
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: and then to damn. She was a coach, that girl.

900
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: That's why I want to get her on the show.

901
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 3: She knows mas progress. That's amazing. Yeah, wait a minute,

902
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 3: it's not a stab.

903
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 10: I love him the Hunter, so do jack me too?

904
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 3: Anyway? All right, so all right, wait, I feel like

905
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 3: there's more.

906
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: What what other historical first in classic hip hop history

907
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: have you been able to witness?

908
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 3: Let me see?

909
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:42,520
Speaker 10: Oh well, I remember when Biz was working on.

910
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 3: Just a Friend. I heard you're the reason that it

911
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 3: even came to be.

912
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 10: You told him like, well, it wasn't that, like not

913
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 10: Q Tip told me to do it or some ship

914
00:50:55,800 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 10: like well, he he played it for for me in

915
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 10: Calliope Studios, and the original was you you must be

916
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 10: on speed. If you say he's just your friend, you

917
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 10: must be on speed. I was like, Biz, you cannot

918
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 10: say that, or he's that.

919
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: I know.

920
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 10: I was thinking about doing this other one. You you

921
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 10: got what I need.

922
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 3: I was like, you must be on speed.

923
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: Yeah that's another Yeah, a Juice Crew interpolation didn't didn't

924
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: Big Daddy Kane do a perfect combination? Or you on

925
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: your suation. He had a whole routine with Biz where

926
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 1: they used to do Johnny I believe that. I was like,

927
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: live it never mad, Yeah, record okay, I believe. I

928
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: mean it was so routinely done, Like I feel like

929
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: somewhere in history there it exists something.

930
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 3: It has to be somewhere on some demo tape. I

931
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 3: could believe that somewhere. I forgot to ask Marley that question.

932
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: All right, So your record collection, see before before your

933
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: career and I guess during at least up to the

934
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: Jungle Brothers, Like at what point are you?

935
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 3: Are you going through your father's records?

936
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 10: Like how are you well, I'm going through my father's

937
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 10: record before all of it, Like as a kid, it

938
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 10: was my father's records.

939
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: Let me let me okay what I really wanted to okay,

940
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: Like the Bronx had their beginnings of hip hops and

941
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: going to part jams and whatnot.

942
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 3: Was there a story of that in.

943
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 10: Queen's Actually, of course Brooklyn and Queen's actually there was

944
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 10: a lot of this. It's a lot of even recent

945
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 10: recollection about the beginnings of literal hip hop, you know

946
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 10: what I'm saying, like jams and shit. Know, Grahad Master

947
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 10: Flowers was doing it Brooklyn, but he but the Brooklyn

948
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 10: and Queens guys they would always be you know, it

949
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 10: was the parties would kind of be overflowing there that

950
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 10: that was the territory, much like Bronx and Harlem, you

951
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 10: know what I mean that connection.

952
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 3: Because we only hear about the Bronx and I know, like.

953
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 10: A lot of this if you look. It's funny because

954
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 10: one night somebody sent me a link and one night

955
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 10: I just got into this whole YouTube. You know, yeah,

956
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 10: exactly It's Labyrinth and you see all of these these

957
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 10: ogs from like Brooklyn and Queens. You know, they had

958
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,960
Speaker 10: Infinity sound out of Queens. You had the Albino Twins

959
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 10: and Disco Twins, like an Infinity machine was a pretty

960
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 10: big sound system at the same time as you know,

961
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 10: the Hercule, which was cool herds and Sashquash, which was

962
00:53:55,520 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 10: Gene and them ship. So Queens has big sound systems.

963
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 10: In Brooklyn had some sound systems as well too. So

964
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 10: the first time I went to a jam, I must

965
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 10: have been about six seven, and I believe that grand

966
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 10: Master Flowers was DJ. And it was actually a one

967
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 10: one block off where of Fife's mother lived on that

968
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 10: side of the tracks. And that was the first time

969
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:26,160
Speaker 10: I've seen a DJ bring It was not any scratching,

970
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 10: but it would just be like, you know, bringing it

971
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 10: back kind of and it was hot shot. It was

972
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 10: a hot shot. Yeah, I think it was hot shot,

973
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 10: hot shot, hot shot hot to Yeah, that joint exactly,

974
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 10: and that it was just that was like the first

975
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 10: recollection of that. Everybody was like kind of on the

976
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,480
Speaker 10: carry line. No, okay, I remember that break Ye. Dad

977
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 10: was early. That was early, and that was like an

978
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 10: instigation into getting record for me. But you know, luckily,

979
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 10: you know, my dad had a pretty substantial record collection

980
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 10: and he would trade with my aunt Effie was up

981
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 10: in Harlem and my other my cousin lived a few

982
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:16,720
Speaker 10: blocks away and they had like a bunch of records.

983
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 10: And then my my my friend lived across the street.

984
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:24,080
Speaker 10: He was much older than me, Eric Saler Squad No, No,

985
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 10: not that one. Oh okay, it's another Saddler family. So

986
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 10: they had a bunch of records, so I'd be like

987
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 10: raising everybody's joints and just listening to music. Then by

988
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 10: the time you know, I started thirteen fourteen and the

989
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 10: breaks and all that stuff, you start hearing all of that,

990
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 10: I started putting two and two together. Because at first

991
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 10: it was just like a family hobby to collect records,

992
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 10: so it wasn't really from a position of like grapping breakbeats.

993
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 10: But then that that kind of between from when I

994
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 10: was seven up to ten, it was just about a

995
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 10: record collecting thing. And then when you got to when

996
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 10: I got to like twelve, thirteen fourteen, I started realizing

997
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 10: put two and two together and made the connection of

998
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 10: what it was. So that's kind of how I kind

999
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 10: of got into the whole.

1000
00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: So your dad encouraged, didn't discourage you from touching his

1001
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: record collection, you didn't have it.

1002
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 3: Don't touch my stereo, dad.

1003
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 10: Or my mother was more still, yeah, I would do

1004
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 10: that and fuck the ship up. Yeah, because you know,

1005
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 10: you have the whole, the one system with the take

1006
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 10: the open the wood cover and.

1007
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 3: Like, but I won't look at you know that type

1008
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 3: of Yeah, it was the belt drive.

1009
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 11: They were like, they wouldn't even go back. It was

1010
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 11: just straight the belt drive. It wasn't direct drive.

1011
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, which'all think?

1012
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 13: How do y'all think that affects music now that the

1013
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 13: era of your parents' records is over? Like kids today

1014
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 13: don't get to go through their parents'.

1015
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 3: Albums like we all did. Yeah, because now there's ninetyums.

1016
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 10: Do they go through it?

1017
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 3: But do they go through their parents? I phone out

1018
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 3: like how do you.

1019
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 11: My boys get it in the car? Like when when

1020
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 11: we go on road trips and stuff and I'm playing

1021
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 11: my music, that's.

1022
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 3: When they get you control the music? Yeah, I control

1023
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 3: the music in the car. The car is a lot

1024
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 3: much to their chagarn uh. Sometimes I mean you're purposely

1025
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 3: like they got headphones on. Sometimes.

1026
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 10: Do you find that that in the car when you're

1027
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 10: having those trips that they are a little bit more

1028
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 10: open to hearing it? And I was like, oh wow,

1029
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 10: Dad like that?

1030
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1031
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that was I mean I give me an

1032
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: example that someone from our era that they really dig

1033
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: someone from from our era.

1034
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 3: I mean that you put them onto you like when

1035
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 3: they was like five or six. Yo. No, no dead ass.

1036
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 11: And I'm not saying just because he was here. When

1037
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 11: the new record came out, I was just playing it

1038
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 11: in the house and my son came home from school.

1039
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 11: He's like, oh, Dad, is that the new Tribe album?

1040
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 11: And he and you had them like, oh, I had him.

1041
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 11: I was like, you might be, you might get it,

1042
00:57:58,960 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 11: but not my son.

1043
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 3: He was he's fifteen, and so he was. I mean,

1044
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 3: I had him. I was playing when he was a kid.

1045
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 11: I made him like a tape of just some of

1046
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 11: my favorite music, had some Tribe on there. Micheondego, cello

1047
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 11: like came. I mean, I just made him a tape

1048
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 11: and so he would go to sleep to that as

1049
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 11: a kid. And so now I will say, man, I mean,

1050
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 11: and I see. I think this generation, the kids, they're

1051
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 11: the most open because everything is free. So whereas back

1052
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 11: in our day, like you might want to take a

1053
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 11: chance on a radio Head or some shit.

1054
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 3: But it's like, Okay, I can buy Radiohead, I can

1055
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 3: buy Cuban links. Yeah, nigga buy a cubul links. I mean,

1056
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 3: but now everything is available.

1057
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 11: So those kids, now, my boys, they listen to everything

1058
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 11: from like the most ignorant trap shit to like Tribe King,

1059
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,880
Speaker 11: you know what I mean, Like they listen to it

1060
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 11: all because they have access.

1061
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 3: To reach starters that way.

1062
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 1: Celia, when she was born, I made her an iPod

1063
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:58,600
Speaker 1: of just random stuff and to this day, like she's eleven,

1064
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: but she loves the police.

1065
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 3: Why she loves my boy my son.

1066
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 11: For last Christmas, he asked for uh, he wanted me

1067
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 11: to buy him a CD copy of Metallica's and Justice

1068
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 11: Fall because he used to play one on Guitar Hero.

1069
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 3: And so that like led him that.

1070
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 11: So like that ship Queens of the Stone Age, like

1071
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 11: all that kind of you know, Rocky's into that.

1072
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 10: It's funny because you know, my little cousins they are

1073
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 10: like fourteen fifteen, and you know they're not necessarily what

1074
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 10: everybody deals with the millennial or whatever. I feel like

1075
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 10: that that crew is a little bit more open. It's

1076
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 10: like it's like, okay, I feel like the millennials or

1077
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 10: whatever when they had streaming and all of that stuff

1078
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 10: and it hit for them. It it wasn't you know,

1079
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 10: the functionality of what streaming really was to be, which

1080
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:59,959
Speaker 10: was to cross sectionalize all types of music, hadn't really

1081
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 10: league came hit its stride with them and hasn't really

1082
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 10: following them with that younger generation through watching them, sees

1083
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,919
Speaker 10: that it's really, hey, it's about all of this shit everything. Yeah,

1084
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,640
Speaker 10: you know, because I was surprised, like like a year

1085
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 10: and a half ago we had like this in store.

1086
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 10: We did this collaboration with Stucy and the line was

1087
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 10: like around the corner. Store was like, yo, nigga. Prior

1088
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 10: to this, I was cutting my lawn in my New

1089
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 10: York Jets socks and my fucking Nike shorts. I had

1090
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 10: my tank top one, you know, smoking bead yelling at

1091
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 10: my dogs, scratching my back like I.

1092
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 3: Ain't been out. It's like, come do this. I'm like okay,

1093
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 3: and you go to it.

1094
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 10: You see this and it's these fifteen sixteen year old

1095
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 10: kids like, oh my god.

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01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 3: You don't know what I'm like, huh. Pop up stores

1097
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 3: are now there. It's the new black.

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01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1099
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,919
Speaker 10: Yes, it's encouraging and it feels it feels encouraging. I'man

1100
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 10: encouraged by it.

1101
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 11: No, you, I will say, Tom, you were one of

1102
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 11: the one of my favorite producers in the sense that

1103
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 11: you always though I've always described it is like you

1104
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 11: always kept the foot.

1105
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 3: In both worlds.

1106
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 11: Like you could do a Midnight Marauders, but then could

1107
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 11: do the infamous you know what I'm saying. Or you

1108
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 11: could do like a Craig mac remix, and like you

1109
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 11: always found a way even when you work with big

1110
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 11: mainstream acts of the time, you still found a way

1111
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 11: to put your stamp on what.

1112
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 3: You were doing.

1113
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 11: And I think that's and in my opinion to me,

1114
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 11: that always kept you kind of you. You never to me,

1115
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 11: never came across as like that bitter guy like a

1116
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:34,439
Speaker 11: lot of the older cats.

1117
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 10: So you know what it is, you know why, and

1118
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 10: he could tell you it's not evenly a big secret.

1119
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 10: It's DJ right, don't you find it?

1120
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: I mean like DJing or I'm smart about it now

1121
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: because I wasn't DJing as heavy since maybe the last

1122
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: three or four records where I'm now aware of it. Yeah,

1123
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: now now I know why Dre, Like when I saw

1124
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: straight out of Compton and realize the environment that Dre

1125
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: was DJing a at that roller skating rink where it's

1126
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: like you play the wrong record, that's your ass. Now realize, oh,

1127
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: that's why all of Dre's stuff is taking no prisoners

1128
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: with with his singles and stuff like it has to

1129
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,439
Speaker 1: just got to hit grab you by the throat.

1130
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 3: Now I realize that that, yeah, that's that's the.

1131
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 10: The other thing about it too, is that it's it's

1132
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 10: you get to see what works and why, you know,

1133
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 10: because I, you know, I think that you and I

1134
01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 10: we maybe I think we come from the same philosophy

1135
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 10: when we spend you know what I'm saying, it's like,

1136
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 10: you know, current, current, a little bit back on another one, throwback,

1137
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 10: tempo wise, tempo match, baseline match and boom now current,

1138
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 10: you know current, you know, just to try to mix

1139
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 10: and then sometimes you know that the crowd may not

1140
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 10: know the throwbacks, but you just want to see the

1141
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 10: reaction if if it's one of the yeah, because because

1142
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 10: if it if it doesn't stop the groove and that

1143
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 10: you who's moving it to it. It's a great study,

1144
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 10: you know.

1145
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 3: Psychological stuff.

1146
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: If you're just tuning in, we're getting a hip hop

1147
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 1: history lesson with rapper actor producer DJ member of a

1148
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: tripal Quest Q Tip. The reason why I brought the

1149
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: record collection is because in the era of when you

1150
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: guys finally get your debut record out.

1151
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:22,800
Speaker 7: Uh.

1152
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: First of all, the long ass title of People's Instinctive

1153
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: Travels and the Paths of Rhythm.

1154
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 10: Why I mean Captain beef Hart and yeah, I mean,

1155
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 10: you know, we need a title.

1156
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: We need to stick the fuck out when we need

1157
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: other options for the debut album.

1158
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 3: Before was the you know either or we always had

1159
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 3: like three to choose from it.

1160
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 10: Now were just like, yo, this is what it.

1161
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,120
Speaker 3: Is really, you know. Okay, So in the era of

1162
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 3: you guys making that record.

1163
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 1: Well as a music producer, the first thing, the reason

1164
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: why I have a dividing line between the renaissance era

1165
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: of hip hop and the classic era of hip hop

1166
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: and the thin line that's in between is the fact

1167
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: that you guys managed to miraculously avoid James brown Well

1168
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: using anything from Break B Loo's Ultimate Beats and Breaks collection,

1169
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 1: which all right for our listeners, Break B Lou shout Out,

1170
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: What's Up?

1171
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 3: Lou? Lou Flores.

1172
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: Wisely came up with a Wikipedia or a cliff notes

1173
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: if you will.

1174
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:52,280
Speaker 10: Of records and street Beat Lenny.

1175
01:04:53,240 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Street b Lenny shout Out of all the records

1176
01:04:56,640 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 1: that Bam and HERK and fl and Theodore would spin.

1177
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 3: Back in the day.

1178
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 1: And when this compilation came out, in late nineteen eighty

1179
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: five through nineteen eighty nine, pretty much, I'll say sixty

1180
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: percent of most hip hop relied on these breaks for

1181
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:24,880
Speaker 1: their daily diet. All these you know, synthetic substitution impeached

1182
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: to President. God made me funky. It was just to

1183
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 1: the point where the average record take, like, take a

1184
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: producer like Herbie Lovebug his productions on saying, like a

1185
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: filler cut on a kid in play record, You get comprised.

1186
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 3: You can they tell, oh, that's volume made.

1187
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: He used the drums from here and the loop from

1188
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 1: there and the baseline from there, you know, all on

1189
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: the same record where you really didn't do any heavy digging.

1190
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: So this is the first time, or at least with

1191
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 1: the native tongues, this is the first time that I'm

1192
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 1: hearing loops that aren't on the compilation. And it's like,

1193
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: oh God, I gotta do some work to figure out

1194
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:05,360
Speaker 1: what they use.

1195
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 10: What this is? What was that?

1196
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 1: Was that already a rule that like no substitution, no

1197
01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,440
Speaker 1: funky drummer, no impeached the president.

1198
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 10: Yeah we were.

1199
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 3: It was.

1200
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 10: It was a crew of us, right like it was

1201
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 10: me Africa, Juju.

1202
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 3: The Beatnuts. Who is the music head of the beat nuts.

1203
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 10: They both are.

1204
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 3: But who's your go to?

1205
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 10: Well, Juju, who made because Juju? I mean because that

1206
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 10: was my men, like in senior year high school, like

1207
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 10: we were me him Rashad.

1208
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 3: Yep.

1209
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 10: They all went to the No no, no, we all

1210
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 10: went to different schools, but we were all like meet

1211
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,560
Speaker 10: up at the hubs and ship, like we just knew

1212
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 10: niggas from when you know, we was getting up getting

1213
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 10: beats and ship and you'd see dudes, you be like, yo,

1214
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 10: that dude got because we always there was a there

1215
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 10: was a small group of us who was like anti

1216
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 10: break beat, you know what I mean, Like we had

1217
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 10: to have the right ship, you know what I feel like,

1218
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 10: all right, the.

1219
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 3: Large professor substitutions. But not once did you feel like

1220
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 3: all right.

1221
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:26,680
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, well after after you know, after we've established

1222
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 10: ourselves in that way, you didn't come back. There's been

1223
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 10: times I've used substitution kicks and ship like that and like.

1224
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 3: That whatever tell yeah okay, or like you know, and

1225
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 3: like Pete would.

1226
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 10: Use he would use substitution a lot, you know, some

1227
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 10: of them ships. Just as a producer, you'd be like, yo,

1228
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 10: that ship is still that that James brown Snea is

1229
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 10: still rocking. We got to boot, you know what I mean.

1230
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 10: But back then, early on, it was just about it

1231
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 10: was about the hunt nigga, you know, saying you know

1232
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 10: that ship just had the fight. It was just like

1233
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,960
Speaker 10: and then we got so on it. We would travel

1234
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 10: out of town and fights. Me and Paul would get

1235
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:10,440
Speaker 10: fucking rent cars and.

1236
01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 3: Be driving Pittsburgh. Yeah, all types of ship. You would

1237
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,080
Speaker 3: go to Jerry's and Pittsburgh. Yep.

1238
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 10: I went to Jerry's.

1239
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's yeah, if any beat bigger.

1240
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: There's seven Pilgrimage like Mecca Pilgrim, but Jerry's you'll never

1241
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: get past.

1242
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 3: Like the letter D and or C right right, right right,

1243
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 3: that's how large his warehouse is.

1244
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 10: But the crew was it was like Juju and and

1245
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 10: this is the crew. Like we all would know each other.

1246
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 10: We all would go to spots and ship. It was

1247
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:57,240
Speaker 10: Juju Diamond large myself Africa, Pete, I said Paul, right, Paul.

1248
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: Prem had already bought a store.

1249
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 10: He already had everything. Wow, he had a store. Oh

1250
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 10: Latif Latif, I said Rashad, No, noah, it was we

1251
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 10: was we was. Mark already had He's a OG so

1252
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 10: he was already. So Prem had the record store that

1253
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 10: he bought when he was in Texas and came and

1254
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:32,760
Speaker 10: they just shipped him every like forty thousand records of

1255
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 10: some crazy ship. So he had everything, and Mark had everything.

1256
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:40,600
Speaker 10: So we were all putting our ships together kind of

1257
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 10: at that time, you know, at the same time, you know.

1258
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 10: But it was the hunt. It was the hunt. It

1259
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 10: was like Game of Thrones or some ship.

1260
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 1: I'm glad you're saying this because even though my career

1261
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 1: came in the tail end of it, many a record

1262
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: dealer had the fear of their eyes when like, because

1263
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: I would just straight up ask them, because they like,

1264
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 1: record dealers will do this thing where it's like, all right,

1265
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 1: they know what kind of money is walking in, right,

1266
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: so they'll look at me.

1267
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 3: They'll look at me and like, okay, a mirror's good

1268
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 3: for ten thousand.

1269
01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:18,280
Speaker 1: So they have a system where it's like they'll give

1270
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 1: you all right, that's ten, that's twenty, that's ten, that's twenty,

1271
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: that's ten, that's twenty.

1272
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 3: No, that's right.

1273
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 1: But then they know you're itching and I'm like, so

1274
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: that's it, and they'll be like, well, you know, I

1275
01:10:30,160 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 1: got a shipment that just came in last night. And

1276
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: all the warehouse is up the block, right, Oh, take

1277
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,560
Speaker 1: you over the block. Yeah, there's all that kind of

1278
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 1: I got some dresses over here. Yeah no, but that's

1279
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 1: what it's like.

1280
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 3: And then there's just a points.

1281
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 1: Well I would tell them to just cut to the chase,

1282
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 1: like and that's the thing as a record collector, you

1283
01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:56,600
Speaker 1: never tell them like, look only got a thousand, Just

1284
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 1: cut to the chase and give me the good ship,

1285
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: because no, they'll just do the same shit the tens,

1286
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,520
Speaker 1: the twenties, the tens, the twenties, the tens, the twenties.

1287
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 3: Were you out there?

1288
01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 1: And then they'll be like they they will usually say

1289
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 1: like Pete Rock was always the thing, like well, yeah,

1290
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: we were holding some of the stuff for Pete Rock.

1291
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 3: You know, I'll give you an extra ten for it. Yeah.

1292
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 3: But then you're like you get desperate and not realizing

1293
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,479
Speaker 3: this wouldn't be true. No, no, no, no, I realized

1294
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 3: then I realized that was the hustle.

1295
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: And then finally I found a guy where he's just like,

1296
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: look this is worth one hundred, this is worth one fifty,

1297
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 1: this is you know, and those type of things. So

1298
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 1: of course those prices would be jacked up because they

1299
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 1: would use it like stuff already, so like like a

1300
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: prime example the Manty Alexander and having his all right,

1301
01:11:53,000 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: so before you use that for gangster bitch, know that

1302
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 1: the album was worth like ten bucks now. But because

1303
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: gangster like he q Tip single handedly brought up the

1304
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: stocks on all we're not just the stuff he was, I'm.

1305
01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 10: Feel bad a little bit because it just happened like

1306
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 10: okay boom, so.

1307
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, my generation is now paying the extra on the

1308
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:22,559
Speaker 3: New Tribe album.

1309
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:29,720
Speaker 10: I used this this for whatever would be the Nairob Yeah,

1310
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 10: like that ship is got rocketed already.

1311
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 13: But give me an example of like from once it

1312
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 13: came to whence it got once?

1313
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 18: Tip touched it no all the time, like oh Jesus Christ,

1314
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 18: I've read ram Ramp is a five dollars record.

1315
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: I don't even think there's an original Ramp record. Like

1316
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 1: every Ramp album I've seen is. I just felt like

1317
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 1: they Yeah, they finally just printed it in the name

1318
01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 1: of the interest of finding the need an apple bum sample.

1319
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 3: So how much is that now? Ran three hundred?

1320
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 1: Well you for an original press I've never seen an

1321
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 1: original pressing of Rent, but uh, Eugene McDaniels, I've never

1322
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 1: seen I've never seen the Headless Heroes under two hundred

1323
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: bucks original. I playing that, I played that ship. The

1324
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:38,679
Speaker 1: first argument Stacey and I ever had over music, first

1325
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:44,160
Speaker 1: tasty treat Stacey and I ever had over music was

1326
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 1: over that record.

1327
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 3: She by the time we got to that song, she

1328
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 3: was like.

1329
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 11: A little this is the last song on eug McDaniel's

1330
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 11: debut album. Helial play everything. I've plaid everything, No, no, no,

1331
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:06,720
Speaker 11: the SAMs for this, for the tip Us, it.

1332
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 3: Was jagget dagger. It was jagged a dagger. You know,

1333
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 3: we was having a ball. That's good on the MYCT.

1334
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 1: Weird enough, Jack of the Dagger was such a dig

1335
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 1: at Mick Jagger, like stealing black music.

1336
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 10: What the loop was so dope.

1337
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 3: One of the one of the last dates that we

1338
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 3: did on when Lauren released that, did you play that

1339
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:30,160
Speaker 3: as he walked out?

1340
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 14: No?

1341
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 1: No, no, no, man, you know what he can't Yes,

1342
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: he was scheduled, he was scheduled to be on the show.

1343
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:41,599
Speaker 3: We prepared that song.

1344
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: And then he okay, okay, he didn't do it, but yeah,

1345
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 1: when he comes down, dude's jagging the dagger Like what

1346
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 1: they gonna do the research on it?

1347
01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:55,560
Speaker 3: Anyway? Last the last date, the last date of this

1348
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 3: Lauren Hill tour when she did that unplugged record Smoking

1349
01:14:58,320 --> 01:14:59,559
Speaker 3: Groups tour. I remember that right.

1350
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 1: So it was Thanksgiving night in Seattle and I played

1351
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 1: the Parasite and blasted it because I DJ before she

1352
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 1: came on dog the look on the art, it was

1353
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: the best.

1354
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 3: I might have to play you. Yes, I gotta. Can

1355
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 3: I play the whole song? Please? The whole song is

1356
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 3: like that, no minutes. We can't not right now.

1357
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:22,760
Speaker 10: I mean if you can put a little bit, just

1358
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 10: skim through, skim through certain.

1359
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a good close. We'll close the

1360
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 3: show with it. Okay, stop, we will close the show

1361
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:31,519
Speaker 3: with That's fair.

1362
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 10: Can we talk over it the show like Mystery Science Theater.

1363
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 3: That is kind of what we do. Great, awesome, that's

1364
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 3: all we do, all right? So what making this?

1365
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 1: Making the record the debut? Yeah, people's I call it

1366
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: Peter Peter p tour Peter Peter to make him that record?

1367
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 1: What is because this is a group of super producers.

1368
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 1: I mean it's a group of multiple c's, but it's

1369
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 1: also a group of super producers.

1370
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 3: How what is the.

1371
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 1: What is the agreed upon method of making joints, like,

1372
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 1: is it just yo, I got this loop?

1373
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got this loop. I like that loop. Okay,

1374
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 3: let's work on that. Or is it you know, do

1375
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:26,960
Speaker 3: you just come in with the finished product like I

1376
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 3: like this? Does alast say? Yo? What do you think

1377
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:30,760
Speaker 3: about this? Yeah? That joints nice? I'll do that.

1378
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 10: It's kind of both.

1379
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,560
Speaker 3: Okay in the beginning, what's it like? What's it like

1380
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 3: on the first album?

1381
01:16:35,640 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 10: Like in the beginning, Uh, A lot of it was

1382
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 10: demos that I'd done over the prior, I'd say five

1383
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 10: years maybe.

1384
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:52,439
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm calling. I'm calling an audible storytime with Q Tip.

1385
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,759
Speaker 1: All right, I'm just gonna play ten seconds of random

1386
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 1: tribe joints and you tell me, like, what comes to

1387
01:16:57,920 --> 01:16:59,720
Speaker 1: mind when you made this?

1388
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 3: Well, if you remember any details, read.

1389
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 10: It, read it, turn the page, see what it says.

1390
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:11,800
Speaker 3: Read it to you?

1391
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 10: Will you please? I mean running away roy is you

1392
01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 10: know it's one of my favorite.

1393
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:30,080
Speaker 1: This shake catches a lot of slack, like I I'll read,

1394
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: I'll read you know, like uh uh lists like Ego

1395
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 1: trip list or whatever, where of course this didn't description

1396
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 1: didn't of course, so it catches flack as in weird

1397
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: debut songs by groups that will later God. But there's

1398
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:56,880
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with this loop. This is not my go

1399
01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 1: to song to spend. But I was never mad at

1400
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: this loop or.

1401
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 3: The place of the ending. It felt like a good

1402
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:04,759
Speaker 3: ending for the album.

1403
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1404
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:06,640
Speaker 3: I used to run that joint and.

1405
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 1: That was actually the B side was even funnier. Pubic

1406
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 1: B side the joint talking smack comics.

1407
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:18,120
Speaker 10: It was funny.

1408
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 3: It was like, it's very skipped to my loop.

1409
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 10: No, no, no, you know what it was to I

1410
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 10: had two years earlier. There was a store on Bleika,

1411
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 10: the street where you get all the fucking prints unreleased joints.

1412
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:40,760
Speaker 3: Well, not Bob's, but it was another joint. It was Generations.

1413
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 10: I think it was not on, but it's off. You

1414
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 10: know where all the chest stores. I think it was

1415
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:50,719
Speaker 10: a cross the street and down the block from my Moods.

1416
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 10: I think there's a story where Prince actually walked in

1417
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:57,599
Speaker 10: to that store and walked out with all this ship. Yeah,

1418
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 10: that had yo, It's ill because I was in there.

1419
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 10: I would always hit there after school because Karena and

1420
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 10: I would always be in the village and shit and

1421
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 10: I would always go get I was just a huge

1422
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 10: Prince fan. So I had heard movie Star, heard Bob

1423
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:14,720
Speaker 10: George Super Califori at the front, whatever the fuck you know,

1424
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,599
Speaker 10: all of that shit. Like I was just like stuck.

1425
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 10: I remember playing movie Star for Africa. He and We're

1426
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 10: in like eleventh grade and we're like mocking the shit

1427
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 10: and listening to all this unreleased Prince shit, and this

1428
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 10: was like kind.

1429
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:33,720
Speaker 3: Of like one of the Yeah, what who's the you know,

1430
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:34,920
Speaker 3: it's about George?

1431
01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying. I like doing all that

1432
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 10: silly shit. Underneath it is the BT Express beat, you

1433
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:45,040
Speaker 10: know what I mean. I mean it's it's clearly tuned out.

1434
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 10: But it was also still inn overage of disco kind

1435
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:54,560
Speaker 10: of house parties that were still going on. You know,

1436
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 10: you still have Frankie Knuckles Ip, still had Larry Levan

1437
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:01,679
Speaker 10: doing parties back then, even though their houses had closed,

1438
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 10: and maybe Frankie was doing back and forth from Chicago

1439
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 10: to New York. So Body, Body and Soul was being established,

1440
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,680
Speaker 10: re established, but it was still a disco thing that

1441
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 10: was happening.

1442
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 3: Have you ever got to see Larry spin or his systems? Yeah,

1443
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:21,759
Speaker 3: well I saw him at Limelight. Okay, did he control

1444
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 3: the system there?

1445
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,440
Speaker 10: I don't think so. This is towards because.

1446
01:20:25,160 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 3: When you DJ, you hea the world's loudest bass cabinets ever.

1447
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:33,759
Speaker 3: And I know that. He always me you you're always

1448
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 3: aiming for a paradise.

1449
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 19: Yeah.

1450
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 3: I'm trying to go for that man.

1451
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, I'm But the first real big system I

1452
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:49,799
Speaker 10: think I heard was in the World as we discussed

1453
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 10: a A Twice's favorite song.

1454
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 3: Wow, my favorite song.

1455
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 10: I haven't heard this ship ever because I got mine,

1456
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,040
Speaker 10: especially slide the family stone.

1457
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 3: Advice take my advice.

1458
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 1: That was Scott Page from the ninety one album classic

1459
01:21:19,880 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 1: The Low in Theory.

1460
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 10: When I made this beat, I was like, Yo, this

1461
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,519
Speaker 10: is like one of the most perfect beats I ever made,

1462
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:31,519
Speaker 10: just because you hear the brushes, You hear the brushes

1463
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,360
Speaker 10: on the drums playing like playing right in between that

1464
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:40,200
Speaker 10: fucking monstrous ass snig kick, that fucking gregorco Is rocking,

1465
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 10: and the just the and then when the flu the

1466
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 10: with the fucking phone and ship. I was just like, damn,

1467
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 10: I wanted I wanted to make this ship longer, but

1468
01:21:52,280 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 10: I was like, you'll fight, we should keep this ship short.

1469
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 3: Like this.

1470
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 10: It's like he was like Burt, he said this even

1471
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:00,880
Speaker 10: though I would love to we got all the joints.

1472
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 10: We need to make this short, like because this one,

1473
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,600
Speaker 10: I just I just love this record. I think this

1474
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,920
Speaker 10: is my favorite. I think I've said before the butter

1475
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:13,800
Speaker 10: was my favorite on the album, but it's really this.

1476
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 3: I haven't heard this in a while. Wow.

1477
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: See this is where we haven't common because I don't know,

1478
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: like maybe it was the Beast being the B side

1479
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 1: of Check the Rhyme or whatever, but this just hit

1480
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: me at the right moment, Like we brought the Check

1481
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: the Rhyme single. It's like a Friday night Tower Records,

1482
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:39,240
Speaker 1: and when like we already knew Checked the Rhyme. So

1483
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 1: when we heard the B side for sky pager In

1484
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 1: on a loud ass car system on a Friday night,

1485
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 1: like we sat it. We sat there and listening to

1486
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 1: like twenty times in a row, Like I was so mad.

1487
01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 1: There was no instrumental over this shit. But this is

1488
01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 1: like one of the songs that like me and Tarique

1489
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,879
Speaker 1: it bonded over like but it may be hard.

1490
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:03,559
Speaker 10: To to Maybe you understand it, amir, but don't. Sometimes

1491
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 10: it's like you take yourself out of it as the

1492
01:23:05,880 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 10: actual artist and then you as the DJ Resister, Listen,

1493
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 10: you know what I'm saying, and you just hear it

1494
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 10: and for a minute you be like, oh shit, you

1495
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 10: know what I'm saying.

1496
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 11: I'm sure, but you have to have time. I think

1497
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 11: like you have to have distance away from it. You

1498
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 11: know what I'm saying, Yes, because like why you're working

1499
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 11: on it while I'm working on stuff like I can't write,

1500
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:26,240
Speaker 11: Oh my god, but.

1501
01:23:26,280 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 1: I'm certain that you make records that younger you would

1502
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 1: want to buy as a consumer or.

1503
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 3: Correct? Do you not make rhymes that.

1504
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:40,720
Speaker 10: You wish.

1505
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:43,280
Speaker 3: You're you're you're?

1506
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,680
Speaker 1: It would like like right now, you mean like like

1507
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 1: just in general, I thought that was the whole goal

1508
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 1: of a musician to make the stuff you want to hear,

1509
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:54,880
Speaker 1: make the stuff that you would buy as a music

1510
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, making the stuff that

1511
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 1: you want to hear, and pretty much, well, at least

1512
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 1: for me, just making the stuff that, you know, the

1513
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,599
Speaker 1: stuff that I felt was missing, like a record that man,

1514
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 1: I wish I could buy this record.

1515
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,720
Speaker 3: I make the record that I want to buy and uh,

1516
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:10,600
Speaker 3: but but.

1517
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 11: I think it only gets to that point for me,

1518
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 11: like kind of going back what Tip was saying, why

1519
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 11: you're working on it.

1520
01:24:15,720 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 10: I don't listen to none of it. Yeah, it's like like,

1521
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:19,920
Speaker 10: I don't, I haven't listened to this, Like when I

1522
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 10: put it out, I don't listen to it. And the

1523
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 10: only the only time I'll go through it is if

1524
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 10: I'm DJing, I'll listen to the ship because I really

1525
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 10: try to stay away from playing my own ship. But

1526
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,799
Speaker 10: when you're reading a crowd or if you know, sometimes

1527
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 10: you may hit a little bit of it and then

1528
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 10: and then you see it work. You see your work

1529
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 10: in the context of other people in the club, just

1530
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 10: to bring it back to the DJ anything, and it

1531
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 10: makes you go, oh, what was the last record that

1532
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 10: you played yours in the club? And you was like,

1533
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 10: oh what you feeling?

1534
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:55,679
Speaker 1: What? Yeah?

1535
01:24:55,800 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 3: Wow, see, now that's weird.

1536
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:04,880
Speaker 1: I have a roule against playing our shit because every

1537
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 1: time I play the root.

1538
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:07,080
Speaker 3: Ship is the fastest for.

1539
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't, I don't.

1540
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:17,599
Speaker 3: But no, but I'm saying they got this already.

1541
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:23,519
Speaker 1: It's already established that you're the establishment of that level.

1542
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 1: Like you know, there's at least five tribe songs that

1543
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 1: are the mount rushmore go to songs of a party starter.

1544
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:35,480
Speaker 1: So even when you were DJing, like is it embarrassing

1545
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 1: to play what's the captain obvious one like scenario.

1546
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 10: I don't play none of it obviously.

1547
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 3: So even when you were DJing in let's say nineteen ninety.

1548
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,679
Speaker 1: Three and you put scenario on knowing the motherfucker's gonna

1549
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 1: go out, they mind like, is this still like a

1550
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:49,680
Speaker 1: weird thing?

1551
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:51,639
Speaker 10: Like yeah, I don't, I don't.

1552
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:52,320
Speaker 3: I don't do that.

1553
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 10: I can't do that. I'll play Oh.

1554
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:57,320
Speaker 3: You'll play some obscure sit.

1555
01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 10: I'll play something more if, like especially if it's like

1556
01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 10: a I have a groove rowing or whatever. Like let's say, okay,

1557
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 10: so what is somewhere like one hundred and five bp

1558
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 10: M or some ship.

1559
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 3: I know what you're going to say, what no, I

1560
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 3: was doing do it? Do it?

1561
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 1: I was going to say you you would probably play

1562
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 1: no footprints. I feel like you would play footprints a

1563
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:30,760
Speaker 1: not club song. But okay, you taught me this term

1564
01:26:30,920 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 1: part of my French niggag drum.

1565
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,599
Speaker 10: Drums, nigga drums dr.

1566
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 3: Drums. No, he's just it's just he taught me that term.

1567
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 3: He's just like it's like that's the secret.

1568
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:57,679
Speaker 1: Like the music smooth, but the beat is so cracking

1569
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 1: and hard and just hard like it's it's it's like

1570
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:02,360
Speaker 1: Freddy Fox.

1571
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:07,880
Speaker 3: Punching you in the news. It's this ship over on

1572
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 3: top while like in my head, why was Freddy Fox? Yeah?

1573
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 3: The hip hop yeah, like damn it, like.

1574
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,880
Speaker 1: We're getting a pound from busting rhymes, you know, like

1575
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 1: it's yeah, no, when Busted picks you up, it's you

1576
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 1: gotta hide your hands like him, him and the Angelo,

1577
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: Him and Angelo the harip like he pulls your finger

1578
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 1: like our things.

1579
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:37,800
Speaker 10: But he did is relentless deal do it all night

1580
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:38,719
Speaker 10: for two hours.

1581
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 1: Every since Primo said the same thing, he has like

1582
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:48,519
Speaker 1: he adapted every two minutes. D M buster the reason

1583
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 1: why I get pounds down. They will pull your joints

1584
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 1: out of sockets, giving you a pounds so hard touch

1585
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 1: your manlihood.

1586
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 3: It's just now it's just pounds, man. It does.

1587
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:04,679
Speaker 1: Jesus, I feel like each album is like nine hours

1588
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 1: worthy of right, Right, So we got any any any

1589
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:10,240
Speaker 1: people's instinctive questions I missed?

1590
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'm trying to think.

1591
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 11: I just remember this funny plate description of a fool

1592
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:20,680
Speaker 11: because that was the first time I can recall my

1593
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 11: older cousin of mine pointing out to me that it

1594
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:26,280
Speaker 11: was a sample because I didn't know. I didn't know

1595
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 11: the roy As record, and I remember him playing, you know,

1596
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 11: the typical old school y'all, all the y'all y'all stealing.

1597
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 3: That's still like.

1598
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 10: About this whole sample ship. I mean, and you guys

1599
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:50,880
Speaker 10: know this. I mean there's fucking twelve notes, you know, right,

1600
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 10: And it's like you have different varying degrees of voicings

1601
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:57,839
Speaker 10: and ship that you could use. So everybody has sampled

1602
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:03,720
Speaker 10: Private Joy by Prince. Okay, did you play that real quick?

1603
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 10: Just a little bit.

1604
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:10,720
Speaker 1: We're not allowed to, Okay, I'm sorry, sorry, all right?

1605
01:29:11,520 --> 01:29:12,679
Speaker 3: Do you have uh.

1606
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 10: Frankie Valley who loves You pretty baby?

1607
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:26,240
Speaker 3: Okay? You ain't got no Frankie Valley and nice reference.

1608
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 10: But my point is is that it's the same voicings,

1609
01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:34,680
Speaker 10: just different keys, you know what I mean, Like if

1610
01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 10: you listen to them back to back, it's the same ship.

1611
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 10: Like it's like people, you.

1612
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 3: Know, I'm playing it. It's Frankie Valley. Yes, it's uh,

1613
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 3: who loves You by Frankie Valley in the four.

1614
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 10: Seasons, just the highlights and illustrate mine, it's Private Joy.

1615
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that.

1616
01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:16,679
Speaker 12: Yeah, that's private joy.

1617
01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 3: That is private joy, you know what I mean. I

1618
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:21,720
Speaker 3: never realized that till now.

1619
01:30:21,920 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 10: It's like that that ship goes on. Some people can

1620
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:33,640
Speaker 10: rearrange and revoice certain chords and you know, you know,

1621
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:38,240
Speaker 10: reapproach the melodies and stuff like that, but sampling is

1622
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 10: something that has been done for how many how many

1623
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:44,519
Speaker 10: times you've heard the chord changes from Cherokee in regular Ship?

1624
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 10: You know what I'm saying, Like it's.

1625
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 3: Stupid, it is.

1626
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 11: Yeah, when y'all were in terms of you were talking

1627
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:54,560
Speaker 11: about Juju, it's funny that you mention that because I

1628
01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 11: always it makes total sense now hearing it that you

1629
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 11: and Juju ran together, because I always thought, like to

1630
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:03,800
Speaker 11: use a stranger things reference. I always thought that the

1631
01:31:03,840 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 11: Beating Uts first album was like the upside down version

1632
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:11,240
Speaker 11: of Midnight Marauders, Like that was a real Black Sea album.

1633
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 3: Oh man, it was.

1634
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 19: That is so they there you go, Joe, You're right,

1635
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 19: because I love I love days they and.

1636
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 10: They don't get their props. Their sucking albums always fucking.

1637
01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:44,559
Speaker 3: Razy. There's no album that doesn't have like when.

1638
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:47,360
Speaker 10: I first heard that fucking that Diamond Bird ship.

1639
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:47,680
Speaker 15: That do.

1640
01:31:49,920 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 3: Do Do Do Do do do do just worked on like,

1641
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:05,120
Speaker 3: how does that work with with ideas or whatever? Like

1642
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:07,240
Speaker 3: have they ever worked on?

1643
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 14: No?

1644
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 3: We never like did that.

1645
01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:12,679
Speaker 10: The only thing we did was we started this group

1646
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:14,519
Speaker 10: called the Fabulous Fleas.

1647
01:32:17,000 --> 01:32:23,440
Speaker 3: How far? How far did that go? Why didn't it materialize?

1648
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 10: I don't know. We had two records?

1649
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:31,000
Speaker 3: Wait what wow? Exist actually made.

1650
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:34,760
Speaker 1: Shout Out to Pass and I'm still waiting for my

1651
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:37,880
Speaker 1: fabulous Fleas has a lot of ship, yes he does.

1652
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 3: He has a lot his wedding for free to get

1653
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 3: some fleas.

1654
01:32:43,560 --> 01:32:43,680
Speaker 13: Yo.

1655
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:45,719
Speaker 10: He has a lot of stuff.

1656
01:32:45,920 --> 01:32:46,280
Speaker 3: He does.

1657
01:32:46,680 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 10: He is, he's going to low He's like, so yeah,

1658
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 10: that was the That was you know, Juju Man and

1659
01:32:55,760 --> 01:33:00,600
Speaker 10: Light and Less Sorry. And I remember when Fashion was

1660
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:02,799
Speaker 10: with them for the first couple of joints, right, Fashion

1661
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:06,080
Speaker 10: joined in the second because it was Fashion on the

1662
01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 10: first one.

1663
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:08,840
Speaker 11: He was on the first was the first, and then

1664
01:33:08,920 --> 01:33:10,880
Speaker 11: he left after no no, No, He was on the

1665
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 11: EP and then he was on the album and then

1666
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:14,479
Speaker 11: he left when they did Street Level.

1667
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:16,680
Speaker 3: That's because he did the God Connections. That's right.

1668
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:19,640
Speaker 11: That's a couple of joints to Fashion is dope. And

1669
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,720
Speaker 11: you talk about sampling. One thing I wanted to ask you,

1670
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 11: like from Marauders to Beats Rhymes in Life? How did

1671
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:30,080
Speaker 11: the sampling laws like did it? Was it harder to

1672
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:32,320
Speaker 11: sample at that time because Beat Rhymes Life had a

1673
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 11: lot more live stuff on it.

1674
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 1: Especially didn't pay attention because this record, like I was

1675
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 1: bomb squad terry like so much.

1676
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 3: I was like, how do they clear they clear all

1677
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:47,800
Speaker 3: this ship? Yeah?

1678
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 1: The laughing speaking of which, Uh, sir, come on, yes, sir,

1679
01:33:54,920 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 1: it is time for Uh, it's time for a moment.

1680
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:03,000
Speaker 1: That's why I gave you a pen and paper. Uh,

1681
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:11,640
Speaker 1: We're going through round one of so all right to

1682
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:13,960
Speaker 1: be fair because I wasn't fair to Pete Rock when

1683
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 1: he did it.

1684
01:34:17,240 --> 01:34:17,640
Speaker 3: Here we go.

1685
01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 1: I'm gonna test your gangster. I'm gonna test a gangster

1686
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:22,600
Speaker 1: on samples like.

1687
01:34:22,640 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 10: Gangster and gyle.

1688
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:25,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna play you.

1689
01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 10: I'm gonna lose this horrible No, you're not You're not.

1690
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 1: And because I'm gonna give it to you twice, I'm

1691
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:31,839
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna.

1692
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 3: Play you a slew of samples and you name them ship.

1693
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 3: You ready, you can do better than me. Here we go.

1694
01:34:43,960 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this for you twice. Here's the first round.

1695
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:49,240
Speaker 3: Name these two. You might want to have a pin

1696
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 3: because they're gonna come quick.

1697
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 10: Oh ship like that? You ready, yes, sir?

1698
01:34:54,400 --> 01:35:12,639
Speaker 3: Part one? Here we go. Oh man, Okay, Tip is singing,

1699
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 3: he's not writing. There you go my favorite song.

1700
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 10: I'm not gonna I'm never gonna win.

1701
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:24,439
Speaker 3: All right, you gotta get closer to close to the mic.

1702
01:35:24,520 --> 01:35:26,680
Speaker 10: I'm not gonna win. I got this too much.

1703
01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 3: It's too quick. Yeah, because I was like, I'm not

1704
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 3: gonna do this.

1705
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:30,679
Speaker 10: This is too crazy.

1706
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 3: It was like, this is this is this is a Stapley,

1707
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:34,679
Speaker 3: this is a staple.

1708
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:39,559
Speaker 10: Already, I'm ready.

1709
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 3: I'll give it to you one more time, and I

1710
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 3: write this this rite the art? Everybody, just right right?

1711
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 3: The artist? You don't song? I know he concocted this

1712
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 3: ship to come on now. It's fun, but you guess

1713
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:57,559
Speaker 3: it is fun?

1714
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:00,599
Speaker 10: All right, come on, all right you genus?

1715
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:05,600
Speaker 3: Ready, all right, just named the artist. I don't know.

1716
01:36:06,280 --> 01:36:07,680
Speaker 3: I know that, I don't know.

1717
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:17,320
Speaker 10: You know this don't know, I don't know. It's not

1718
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:19,839
Speaker 10: enough for me. Eddie Kendricks.

1719
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:31,360
Speaker 3: Okay, you're saying the song next?

1720
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:41,599
Speaker 10: Is that Marbret Holmes no up titled uh.

1721
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 3: You know the song? Yeah?

1722
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 10: Bang guy that's a ship. Oh fuck is that for all?

1723
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 10: That's Hamilton bohand that's Brenda Russell.

1724
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:08,960
Speaker 1: Okay, got a little bit. Okay, we missed Tyrone Davis

1725
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 1: and the brick Fun brick Fun, Yes, and uh our

1726
01:37:15,439 --> 01:37:16,479
Speaker 1: farmer soul sides.

1727
01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 3: He does use that for the pussy. That was right exactly. Well,

1728
01:37:21,160 --> 01:37:24,879
Speaker 3: that's when he mentioned that. I was like the night Lighters.

1729
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 3: There you go and Detroit Emeralds.

1730
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 10: Detroit Emeralds.

1731
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 3: All right, so you you sort of guessed it.

1732
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 10: I'm sorry, it's Carl.

1733
01:37:35,479 --> 01:37:37,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, give me another one.

1734
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 10: Do you have another?

1735
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:40,479
Speaker 3: Yeah? Give me pete, give me pete.

1736
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:42,640
Speaker 1: No, I got advanced rounds you. We'll get you a

1737
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:44,719
Speaker 1: little bit later. You got advanced rounds.

1738
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:45,599
Speaker 15: Give you a breather.

1739
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 1: So did you Were you satisfied? Were you satisfied with?

1740
01:37:56,000 --> 01:38:00,400
Speaker 1: How did you feel? The general reception was for the

1741
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 1: debut record going into the second record, like.

1742
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:07,720
Speaker 10: You feel like I had a little bit of a

1743
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:11,599
Speaker 10: chip on my shoulder coming from the like who chuck

1744
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 10: Eddie rolling Stone?

1745
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:14,880
Speaker 3: The three star review?

1746
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 10: I never yeah, fuck you the fucker. And then that's

1747
01:38:19,960 --> 01:38:22,760
Speaker 10: what I slowly but surely got on my diet, of

1748
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:26,559
Speaker 10: which I'm now practicing of trying to, you know, look

1749
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 10: at any kind of articles, of any kind of reviews,

1750
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 10: anything at all of good bad. I don't want to

1751
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 10: hear nothing because you know.

1752
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:36,880
Speaker 1: You and I took it personally, that's weird. It's not

1753
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 1: even my record. And I to this day, Chuck is

1754
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:42,360
Speaker 1: on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame thing. He

1755
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 1: him and Alan Light profusely apologize.

1756
01:38:48,040 --> 01:38:55,720
Speaker 3: To you for it. I never I'm literally all right,

1757
01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 3: I'm on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame board.

1758
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 1: So basically the Rolling Stone editors of the eighties and

1759
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:04,599
Speaker 1: the nineties are in the same room.

1760
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:05,200
Speaker 3: Trust me.

1761
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:10,240
Speaker 1: They realized that them reviewing hip hop ten years ago

1762
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 1: was the equivalent of a vegetarians review and chicken contest.

1763
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:16,120
Speaker 10: Exactly what they need to make a statement, because that's

1764
01:39:16,120 --> 01:39:16,479
Speaker 10: in a room.

1765
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:21,080
Speaker 1: No, even with Alan without Allan Light has regrets over

1766
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 1: America's most wanted Chuck Eddie has regrets over People's Sea.

1767
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 1: He said it was the least danceable hip hop.

1768
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:33,439
Speaker 3: Dude. When I read it, I was just because I

1769
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:34,799
Speaker 3: got the Source review.

1770
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 1: Tribes debut record was the first album to get a

1771
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:44,040
Speaker 1: five mic review in The Source in the summer of

1772
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:49,479
Speaker 1: ninety and they because I had it already. They were

1773
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 1: saying everything I felt. I was like, wow, this is

1774
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 1: like real critics actually are reviewing. That's when I realized like, oh,

1775
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,639
Speaker 1: the source might be onto something, being like our Bible.

1776
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 1: But then, because I was collecting all those Rolling Stone

1777
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 1: reviews on the back of.

1778
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 3: The who's the main review?

1779
01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:13,920
Speaker 1: It was someone else that I think was it Neil Young,

1780
01:40:14,640 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was Freedom, whatever it was.

1781
01:40:17,560 --> 01:40:21,760
Speaker 1: Tribes was the thing on the back, and I was

1782
01:40:21,880 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 1: just like, how can critics be so out of touch?

1783
01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:26,519
Speaker 1: And then I realized, oh, there's a double standard between

1784
01:40:27,280 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 1: hip hop experts and rock experts.

1785
01:40:29,840 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 3: Like Solange and Brandy.

1786
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:34,320
Speaker 10: Yeah, what happened with them? Unclear?

1787
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 3: Well, now Solange gave just due to Brandy's work and

1788
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 3: kind of the.

1789
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 1: Pitchforkian or John of John Cara, Yeah, John care I

1790
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:51,640
Speaker 1: can never get his I don't even know if I

1791
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 1: said it right.

1792
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:53,960
Speaker 3: I think I think, yeah, you got right, John Caramonica.

1793
01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 3: You know there's kind of there's kind of like a snarky.

1794
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:00,839
Speaker 10: They said stop kaping for Brandy or something, yeah.

1795
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 1: Like basically right, yeah, like a snarky like what do

1796
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:07,160
Speaker 1: you know about like real musical and Brandy's high art.

1797
01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:09,720
Speaker 3: To you that sort of thing, and she.

1798
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 1: Your record ship exactly so, but she did the slime

1799
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 1: sting got in the ass and yeah, you know, yeah exactly.

1800
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 10: So it's I remember when she was talking to me

1801
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:25,680
Speaker 10: about doing the record she was mad about She was

1802
01:41:25,760 --> 01:41:28,640
Speaker 10: so mad that it was a little bit intelligible. So

1803
01:41:31,040 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 10: so it was I just like I was like looking

1804
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:33,920
Speaker 10: at her.

1805
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 14: Too, like.

1806
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 1: On the ground, right, So she proposed to the idea

1807
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:40,240
Speaker 1: of what the album was going to be before you

1808
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:44,280
Speaker 1: got started working. Yeah, yeah, when she she came, that's

1809
01:41:44,320 --> 01:41:46,080
Speaker 1: the first thing, like she's like, come out of the

1810
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:48,360
Speaker 1: studio whatever I want you hear some ideas, see what's up.

1811
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:53,519
Speaker 1: And then like she gave me the pitch and Sampa

1812
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:55,639
Speaker 1: is there too, and I'm looking at Sanfa like who

1813
01:41:55,960 --> 01:42:02,720
Speaker 1: met me? No, No, it's just like she was just

1814
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 1: like I wanted I'm making a manifesto and I'm tired

1815
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 1: of the ship.

1816
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:07,519
Speaker 3: You with me or not?

1817
01:42:10,840 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 1: And I two three and falling, Like, dude, that's exactly

1818
01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:28,640
Speaker 1: like is that okay, you're joking, that's exactly what they

1819
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 1: playing record. Yeah, she knew what she wanted and was

1820
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:36,120
Speaker 1: like she was not gripping me by like full force

1821
01:42:36,600 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 1: and crust groove to get the results.

1822
01:42:39,680 --> 01:42:41,360
Speaker 3: So I love the records you did on her too.

1823
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 3: That was my favoritejots.

1824
01:42:43,479 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 10: Her and I have about about ten records together. Yeah,

1825
01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:54,880
Speaker 10: and pub we were working on this ship and then

1826
01:42:55,479 --> 01:42:57,880
Speaker 10: she went to Raphael and and at one point she

1827
01:42:58,000 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 10: came back to me.

1828
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:00,720
Speaker 3: She came back to me.

1829
01:43:01,320 --> 01:43:06,120
Speaker 10: But I've been working with Cilantro. I've always encouraged her

1830
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 10: to like go, like she's like a ded ded dear

1831
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:12,920
Speaker 10: dear like that, like we come come to the crib

1832
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:15,880
Speaker 10: cook type ship, like that's my sister right there. And

1833
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:20,600
Speaker 10: I'm just really happy for her. So how good is

1834
01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 10: that album? Maybe so fucking good, man, so good? And

1835
01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 10: I'm so happy for her, you know, because it's like

1836
01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:33,160
Speaker 10: like just not to digress, but you know, obviously her

1837
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:38,280
Speaker 10: sister is you know what I mean, And it must

1838
01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:43,800
Speaker 10: be you know, you know, nepotism aside. It must be

1839
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:50,639
Speaker 10: hard to be. But she's so fucking hit and nailed

1840
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 10: her own voice here and stuck her foot in it,

1841
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:56,880
Speaker 10: and it's just I'm just I'm just really happy for her.

1842
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 15: Man.

1843
01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 3: I'm still clad for Salona. So happy. Well, that's why

1844
01:44:03,320 --> 01:44:05,160
Speaker 3: I wanted y'all clap with me, So it didn't sound like.

1845
01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:06,880
Speaker 5: Like that.

1846
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 1: So for you, it was like the chip on your

1847
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:16,720
Speaker 1: shoulder was wait till they get a load of me.

1848
01:44:17,000 --> 01:44:18,720
Speaker 1: I always I see. I didn't know if you read

1849
01:44:18,760 --> 01:44:21,439
Speaker 1: your your like if you read reviews or not.

1850
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:25,240
Speaker 10: And so when you had another little chip after this

1851
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:27,599
Speaker 10: one too though, but I can't say what it is yet.

1852
01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:33,400
Speaker 3: But for low in theory, this new album, yeah, I

1853
01:44:33,439 --> 01:44:34,120
Speaker 3: don't know who.

1854
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 10: Refuted Well, it's not you know, it's I just.

1855
01:44:40,360 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 3: All right, what's the name of the periodical? Does it

1856
01:44:44,280 --> 01:44:48,880
Speaker 3: start with the pet mad? Is the rating good? You

1857
01:44:48,960 --> 01:44:55,600
Speaker 3: can do? Damn? Anyway? Because about three seconds this.

1858
01:44:58,520 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 11: Murder was it?

1859
01:44:59,400 --> 01:45:01,439
Speaker 3: Was it a mad? Was it a publication? Was it?

1860
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:04,600
Speaker 3: Is it a peer? Was it like someone? It was

1861
01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:06,599
Speaker 3: like peer review kind of good questions?

1862
01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:10,800
Speaker 10: We're all good man, I'm just gonna fuel it into

1863
01:45:10,840 --> 01:45:11,240
Speaker 10: the music.

1864
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 3: There you bet?

1865
01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:14,519
Speaker 13: Monkey, stop your show?

1866
01:45:15,600 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

1867
01:45:16,080 --> 01:45:16,920
Speaker 13: Was that an aunt moment?

1868
01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:24,080
Speaker 11: That was such an an you got to bring some

1869
01:45:24,160 --> 01:45:30,800
Speaker 11: chicken in here for us? So was there a meeting

1870
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:33,559
Speaker 11: or a manifesto of like what should we do this record?

1871
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 3: Or was just just like yeah, yeah, I think it was.

1872
01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:44,840
Speaker 10: It was more like, come on, fife, you know what

1873
01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:49,560
Speaker 10: I'm saying. And I was just like, yo, let's go.

1874
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:54,479
Speaker 1: So was it that he didn't feel No, it was

1875
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:57,080
Speaker 1: just even with the last record, like should he have?

1876
01:45:57,360 --> 01:45:59,120
Speaker 1: Was he late to a few sessions that like what

1877
01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:01,599
Speaker 1: song should a fight been on on on the first

1878
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:02,640
Speaker 1: album that he wasn't on?

1879
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:04,640
Speaker 3: There was just like all right, well you're not there, so.

1880
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:11,880
Speaker 10: Probably go ahead and the ring rhythm?

1881
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:15,920
Speaker 3: Uh, he should have been on going the.

1882
01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:20,640
Speaker 10: Ring Yeah rhythm, Uh, push it along.

1883
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:27,799
Speaker 17: On that what it's time to decipher the situations. Situation

1884
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:32,960
Speaker 17: you made me think I was crazy right now.

1885
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:37,759
Speaker 10: I mean, I mean footprints he should have been okay,

1886
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 10: I mean it was a couple. But when we got

1887
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:44,800
Speaker 10: we were gonna make low end theory, we was just

1888
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:48,880
Speaker 10: like we need more of you with that, and were

1889
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 10: just like, Yo, now it's time to two. You know,

1890
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:57,000
Speaker 10: we put all the colors on the canvas with the

1891
01:46:57,040 --> 01:47:02,680
Speaker 10: first album. Now it's time to go cubism, you know,

1892
01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 10: like sharp, you know, distinct, exact like show now we

1893
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:12,759
Speaker 10: got to show our lines, you know what I'm saying.

1894
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 10: So it was more it was more about that, and

1895
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:19,280
Speaker 10: luckily the timing was just I mean, it wasn't our time,

1896
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:22,320
Speaker 10: and it was just like the environment was kind of

1897
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 10: heading towards that.

1898
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:27,639
Speaker 3: We'll also so you guys, like you broke it down

1899
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 3: more simple for.

1900
01:47:31,439 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 1: The people, Whereas like my idea of a tribe called

1901
01:47:35,240 --> 01:47:38,120
Speaker 1: Quest was definitely like whatever. The back cover of the

1902
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:42,920
Speaker 1: Benita apple bum twelve inch was like, my version of

1903
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:48,559
Speaker 1: tribe is the abstract kind of artsy looking kids whatever.

1904
01:47:49,200 --> 01:47:53,559
Speaker 1: Whereas now the same group, it's now on the Tarik

1905
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:55,759
Speaker 1: side of the fence and just rocking.

1906
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:57,640
Speaker 3: Because the first thing I noticed I was like, oh,

1907
01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:01,400
Speaker 3: they're rocking Champion right right. We started that.

1908
01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:03,920
Speaker 10: We kind of was doing that purposefully.

1909
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:04,840
Speaker 5: I know.

1910
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:06,880
Speaker 10: The time we got to the Cannot Kick A video,

1911
01:48:07,000 --> 01:48:09,680
Speaker 10: we was like, okay, now we gotta start. We got

1912
01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 10: to start phasing it in fashion and fashion in it

1913
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:15,920
Speaker 10: too as a precursor.

1914
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:16,960
Speaker 3: You wanted to look like the people.

1915
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:20,479
Speaker 10: Well yeah, well we came out like the first album

1916
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:23,920
Speaker 10: was like about the first album was more about the

1917
01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 10: the spirit and more about just philosophically kind of the thing.

1918
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:37,880
Speaker 10: You know, the vastness, the all inclusiveness nature of the record,

1919
01:48:38,720 --> 01:48:46,080
Speaker 10: you know, the idealism, the youthfulness, the naivete, like it

1920
01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 10: was important, you know much like if you look through

1921
01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:52,200
Speaker 10: phases of childhood, you know, it's important to keep a

1922
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:59,080
Speaker 10: kid's imagination and intact and incited, and you know you

1923
01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:01,400
Speaker 10: definitely want to step in with certain lessons there, but

1924
01:49:01,439 --> 01:49:03,800
Speaker 10: you want to be more encouraging. So the spirit was

1925
01:49:03,880 --> 01:49:07,320
Speaker 10: more of a child spirit, whereas the Loewen theory was

1926
01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:10,360
Speaker 10: a little bit more of a coming of age, like

1927
01:49:10,439 --> 01:49:16,639
Speaker 10: I said, very specific, minimal like bare bones, like stripped

1928
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:20,559
Speaker 10: down like that was like all purposeful, like discuss designed

1929
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:24,040
Speaker 10: by the time we got to the Kannakika video, you know,

1930
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:31,680
Speaker 10: mixing a little bit of kinta cloth with polo right like,

1931
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:34,559
Speaker 10: and then full on by the time the album.

1932
01:49:35,240 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 1: For me, one of the most important musicians on the

1933
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:44,400
Speaker 1: low end theory rock Carder No by Power. Oh well, yeah,

1934
01:49:44,960 --> 01:49:51,160
Speaker 1: so how did tell the story of how Bob came

1935
01:49:51,200 --> 01:49:53,120
Speaker 1: into uh to be?

1936
01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 10: We were working in the studio Gilliope and Shane Farber

1937
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 10: was like the head engineer, right. There was another cat

1938
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:04,360
Speaker 10: there too. They were all kind of like you know,

1939
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:09,800
Speaker 10: rocker dudes, like real rock and roll whatever, and it

1940
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:15,679
Speaker 10: was a beautiful studio and Shane was doing the Jungle Brothers,

1941
01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:18,960
Speaker 10: he was doing Bizz he was he was doing a

1942
01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:21,800
Speaker 10: lot right. So we started to work on our ship

1943
01:50:21,840 --> 01:50:26,679
Speaker 10: and this was the first album and I remember Africa

1944
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:29,200
Speaker 10: and had to have a sub one day, like Shane

1945
01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 10: couldn't do the session. So there was a guy in

1946
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:33,800
Speaker 10: the back who would do jingles. He had like the

1947
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:35,120
Speaker 10: perfect jingle voice.

1948
01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:35,679
Speaker 3: And then.

1949
01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:43,400
Speaker 10: And well before we get there, when you go into

1950
01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:47,320
Speaker 10: the lobby or into the front desk room of Calliope,

1951
01:50:47,400 --> 01:50:49,280
Speaker 10: they'd have all of their records that they that were

1952
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:52,320
Speaker 10: done at the studio up on the wall, twelve inches

1953
01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:55,240
Speaker 10: and shit, one of them being Stetso Sonic Ghost Tetza.

1954
01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:59,040
Speaker 10: That was one of the Latin quart of staples. You

1955
01:50:59,120 --> 01:51:01,080
Speaker 10: know when that ship We'll come home with those fucking

1956
01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:05,040
Speaker 10: drums rumbling, It was a fucking problem. If you had

1957
01:51:05,160 --> 01:51:07,680
Speaker 10: anything on nice, you would want to hold on to it.

1958
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:11,439
Speaker 10: All of that ships, the heart of the drum play, a.

1959
01:51:11,400 --> 01:51:13,439
Speaker 3: Little bit of the police. Are you trying to sinuate

1960
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:15,600
Speaker 3: that the heart of the song? The more like.

1961
01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:20,200
Speaker 10: Yes, it was back then it was exciting for this, Yes,

1962
01:51:20,360 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 10: it was exciting. Really, it was like yes, because the

1963
01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:26,360
Speaker 10: d you know that that how do you say that?

1964
01:51:26,520 --> 01:51:28,880
Speaker 10: How does how do you say the jiff with the

1965
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:31,280
Speaker 10: battle kid and he's standing with his glasses.

1966
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:34,760
Speaker 3: It was like, yes, It's like, Yo, where do you go? Man?

1967
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:37,479
Speaker 3: How do you find that jiff? Because I look for

1968
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:39,519
Speaker 3: that jiff and can't. I don't know what you call it.

1969
01:51:39,760 --> 01:51:42,640
Speaker 10: I don't know battle rap really battle rap.

1970
01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:49,080
Speaker 3: So you heard ghost.

1971
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:51,679
Speaker 1: Sets of by stets of Sonic in the Latin corner.

1972
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:56,720
Speaker 1: So this was like your smells like spirit. This was

1973
01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:59,120
Speaker 1: your smells like teen spirit at the Latin Quarter.

1974
01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:03,600
Speaker 10: That record was so crazy that it inspired them to

1975
01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:06,759
Speaker 10: make this other cup came out the Mighty Mic Masters.

1976
01:52:07,200 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 10: You ever hear that no.

1977
01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:20,160
Speaker 3: Get you? Word feels like an answer record, the best

1978
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:20,799
Speaker 3: that's kind.

1979
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:25,400
Speaker 10: And that ship is banging to Freddy Freddy being Mighty

1980
01:52:25,479 --> 01:52:26,560
Speaker 10: Mic Masters.

1981
01:52:26,320 --> 01:52:28,880
Speaker 3: The Mighty Mic Masters. What's the name of the song?

1982
01:52:29,080 --> 01:52:32,439
Speaker 10: I think it's called word, It's just word. I'm the

1983
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:34,679
Speaker 10: real McCoy, I'm the real play boy.

1984
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:41,360
Speaker 3: Ladies man a door. Remember that it was on Tough City.

1985
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:50,519
Speaker 10: Yeah, turn it up, turn refuge alert, Arnie.

1986
01:52:54,920 --> 01:53:08,000
Speaker 3: Oh man, that's day Swing. It's like hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

1987
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 3: this isn't a compression. Wow, this is what year? What

1988
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:18,240
Speaker 3: year is this? What years?

1989
01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:26,760
Speaker 1: The pumpkin was on drums Pumpkin's a mother Pumpkin was

1990
01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:28,479
Speaker 1: the house rummer of Enjoy Records.

1991
01:53:28,560 --> 01:53:36,599
Speaker 3: Ladies, gentlemen, what what uh what Keith LeBlanc and Doug

1992
01:53:36,640 --> 01:53:40,719
Speaker 3: wyn Bush World sugar Hill Records. Nah, huh, Pumpkin.

1993
01:53:43,360 --> 01:53:45,160
Speaker 1: I always wanted to know where these drums came from

1994
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:48,519
Speaker 1: on Swing a Lot King because I thought this was

1995
01:53:49,400 --> 01:53:51,320
Speaker 1: a prince like this is like a prince Ball beat

1996
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:54,560
Speaker 1: to me, like every prince Ball beat my mind is this,

1997
01:53:55,720 --> 01:53:57,080
Speaker 1: And I thought he programmed it.

1998
01:53:57,520 --> 01:53:59,560
Speaker 3: I'm not saying that what studio was that done in?

1999
01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 17: Uh?

2000
01:54:00,640 --> 01:54:02,360
Speaker 3: The information is not here.

2001
01:54:02,600 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 10: Wow, I wonder if that was done.

2002
01:54:04,000 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 3: Freddy be the Mighty on Aaron Fuchs Tough City. It

2003
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:10,040
Speaker 3: was nineteen eighty six eight.

2004
01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:14,559
Speaker 10: It was crazy so Bob so I looked. I looked.

2005
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:16,559
Speaker 10: I was like, wow, Stetsa because I remember always looking

2006
01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:18,680
Speaker 10: at the credits and it said recorded and mixed by

2007
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:23,720
Speaker 10: Bob Power Jump cut two. You know the sub is

2008
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:27,200
Speaker 10: in there and it's the engineer for Africa and for

2009
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:30,160
Speaker 10: a session on Dumb by the Forces, I think, and

2010
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:32,840
Speaker 10: you know the song I can't remember.

2011
01:54:33,560 --> 01:54:35,680
Speaker 1: I was about to say, it has to be doing

2012
01:54:35,720 --> 01:54:39,720
Speaker 1: our own thing. No jb'sh JB's coming through hard.

2013
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:44,840
Speaker 10: It could be because that's one of the artist, it's

2014
01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:48,400
Speaker 10: one of the In terms of arrangements for hip hop songs,

2015
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:50,680
Speaker 10: it's either the first or the second for me, Like

2016
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 10: like JB's coming Through. You listen to the fucking arrangement

2017
01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:56,600
Speaker 10: on that record and what's going on that ship is

2018
01:54:56,760 --> 01:54:58,480
Speaker 10: like a Queen record.

2019
01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 3: Yes, insane is criminal.

2020
01:55:02,120 --> 01:55:08,840
Speaker 1: It's criminal. That was not even considered the first single off.

2021
01:55:08,920 --> 01:55:12,680
Speaker 1: I feel like, if that can't burrow my god this world,

2022
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:18,640
Speaker 1: ye oh my god. They was, and the video of

2023
01:55:18,720 --> 01:55:23,360
Speaker 1: that ship could have made a difference. It could have

2024
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:25,280
Speaker 1: made a difference. I swore it was going to be

2025
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:27,880
Speaker 1: like I mean that.

2026
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 10: Ship is to this day, it's like because that was

2027
01:55:30,880 --> 01:55:33,000
Speaker 10: never an official single, was it? No?

2028
01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:36,560
Speaker 1: And then it was it was because the B side

2029
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:41,360
Speaker 1: is what FOREL based nothing on for Norri the George

2030
01:55:41,400 --> 01:55:42,720
Speaker 1: Michael father figure.

2031
01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:46,600
Speaker 15: That was.

2032
01:55:55,520 --> 01:56:02,440
Speaker 10: You know, but that freaking so anyway, So this guy

2033
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:07,400
Speaker 10: is like this engineer guys like recording vocals on Africa

2034
01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:12,480
Speaker 10: and he's like Africa's rapping rap rappings up. Then the

2035
01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:15,280
Speaker 10: engineer goes, oh, that's okay.

2036
01:56:15,320 --> 01:56:16,120
Speaker 3: I think that take was good.

2037
01:56:16,120 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 10: Did you want to get another one?

2038
01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:17,480
Speaker 3: Are you ready?

2039
01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:20,440
Speaker 10: To do another one, and as like, what the fuck

2040
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:24,840
Speaker 10: is this motherfucker? He's like, okay, clear, stand by, Like

2041
01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:28,040
Speaker 10: he was just okay, clear, It's like this motherfucker sounded

2042
01:56:28,040 --> 01:56:31,680
Speaker 10: like a fucking an airline pilot associate that he would

2043
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:37,880
Speaker 10: say or whatever the fuck right. So I liked his efficiency.

2044
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:40,280
Speaker 10: I like the fact that he was just like on

2045
01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:45,600
Speaker 10: it and just accommodating and nice. Because Shane was a

2046
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:50,400
Speaker 10: little old rocker guy, rough, little rough, a little rough,

2047
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:53,200
Speaker 10: not old rocker guy. But he started because he had

2048
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:55,760
Speaker 10: a few hits. He was doing the money ship. He

2049
01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:58,560
Speaker 10: was feeling himself, you know what I'm saying, and the

2050
01:56:58,680 --> 01:57:01,800
Speaker 10: most unlikely base with a bunch of black kids.

2051
01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:03,879
Speaker 3: So now he's balling.

2052
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:08,000
Speaker 10: He's feeling the feeling himself. And Bob was just like okay.

2053
01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 10: I was like, so then we had to have the

2054
01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:13,560
Speaker 10: session were supposed to use Shane, and Shane couldn't do

2055
01:57:13,640 --> 01:57:16,080
Speaker 10: it because I guess shame is in Costa Rica balling

2056
01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:24,000
Speaker 10: whatever regretful vacation yo. Sudden Bob Power was I was like, wait,

2057
01:57:24,040 --> 01:57:27,840
Speaker 10: didnute Bob Power? Is that the guy who was doing

2058
01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:31,600
Speaker 10: the Jungle Brothers session two days ago and the guy

2059
01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:33,040
Speaker 10: who did and he was like, yeah, I was like

2060
01:57:33,120 --> 01:57:36,160
Speaker 10: book them and that was it. Wow, that was it.

2061
01:57:36,920 --> 01:57:38,640
Speaker 10: Home since then ever since then.

2062
01:57:41,200 --> 01:57:43,480
Speaker 3: Was our second guest on the show. It's amazing, literally

2063
01:57:43,680 --> 01:57:44,280
Speaker 3: exact same that.

2064
01:57:44,440 --> 01:57:46,880
Speaker 10: Record, that's that's the sonic record. That was it and

2065
01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:50,640
Speaker 10: that was like and I saw him work because he

2066
01:57:50,760 --> 01:57:51,000
Speaker 10: and I.

2067
01:57:51,240 --> 01:57:54,200
Speaker 1: Like, that's how Like I wonder if say regrets it now,

2068
01:57:54,560 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 1: like in hindsight, if you didn't take that vacation like

2069
01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 1: Shane could have on so much hip hop history because.

2070
01:58:07,920 --> 01:58:10,480
Speaker 10: He did just a friend, he did that stuff, Monies

2071
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:11,680
Speaker 10: in the Middle, he did.

2072
01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:14,560
Speaker 1: But for a lot of the mid nineties, late nineties

2073
01:58:14,640 --> 01:58:19,840
Speaker 1: generation cats, like we all read the engineer credits to

2074
01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:23,720
Speaker 1: our favorite records and it was like Bypower, try by Powered,

2075
01:58:23,800 --> 01:58:27,000
Speaker 1: Daylight Soul. So that's who we rolled with, Like we

2076
01:58:27,160 --> 01:58:31,400
Speaker 1: wanted the person that sounded chrisp and clean. So how

2077
01:58:32,720 --> 01:58:34,840
Speaker 1: how many mixes would you go through? And I know

2078
01:58:35,000 --> 01:58:38,120
Speaker 1: how meticulous Bob is as an engineer, but for the

2079
01:58:38,200 --> 01:58:42,960
Speaker 1: low end theory to get the base frequency that fucking

2080
01:58:43,160 --> 01:58:47,120
Speaker 1: loud and to get the snare drum that like, to

2081
01:58:47,240 --> 01:58:50,320
Speaker 1: get the the the base frequencies that you guys use

2082
01:58:50,600 --> 01:58:53,760
Speaker 1: and the snares that you guys use and the voices

2083
01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:58,520
Speaker 1: and you guys don't have Chuck d Preacher voices. So

2084
01:58:59,480 --> 01:59:02,920
Speaker 1: to get it thirty three and a third of the

2085
01:59:03,400 --> 01:59:07,320
Speaker 1: base with the kick, the snare to punch through and

2086
01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:12,560
Speaker 1: your voices which aren't Teddy Pendergrass. It's none of that

2087
01:59:12,640 --> 01:59:20,960
Speaker 1: ship that was good. But I'm just saying, what was

2088
01:59:21,160 --> 01:59:24,080
Speaker 1: what was the mixing process? Like, I mean, how much

2089
01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:27,480
Speaker 1: damage did y'all do to Well? I know, first of all,

2090
01:59:27,800 --> 01:59:30,800
Speaker 1: if you know by power, he never uses the big speakers,

2091
01:59:30,880 --> 01:59:35,360
Speaker 1: So that's even like he mixes everything on like clock

2092
01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:37,640
Speaker 1: radio status like the worst speaker.

2093
01:59:37,880 --> 01:59:41,400
Speaker 3: Well because these everybody, if you if you sound good

2094
01:59:41,440 --> 01:59:43,760
Speaker 3: on that, that was his big rule.

2095
01:59:44,120 --> 01:59:48,200
Speaker 10: Like and I to this day he's so right because

2096
01:59:48,240 --> 01:59:49,320
Speaker 10: if you could if.

2097
01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:51,880
Speaker 3: You get it sounds great.

2098
01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:54,600
Speaker 10: You're here and you hear everything and it's in articulation,

2099
01:59:54,760 --> 01:59:58,160
Speaker 10: and you know that you're seventy five there and he

2100
01:59:58,200 --> 02:00:01,320
Speaker 10: will always say so being at you. You hear everything,

2101
02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:05,080
Speaker 10: then it's about what you know the person, what kind

2102
02:00:05,120 --> 02:00:07,720
Speaker 10: of personality you wanted to have, Like so if if

2103
02:00:07,760 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 10: it's going for this or that, he he leans more

2104
02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:14,200
Speaker 10: to what's naturally their sonically, you know what I mean.

2105
02:00:14,840 --> 02:00:15,920
Speaker 3: So how did y'all achieve that?

2106
02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:20,760
Speaker 1: Because as simple as the record sounds drums, bass, voice,

2107
02:00:21,440 --> 02:00:25,600
Speaker 1: minimum samples, that is some hard ship to achieve to

2108
02:00:25,720 --> 02:00:29,120
Speaker 1: be that loud. It's it's louder than the average hip

2109
02:00:29,160 --> 02:00:32,640
Speaker 1: hop record. Like you take an album like Nation and Millions, Yeah,

2110
02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:36,120
Speaker 1: and which is crammed with everything, and it's it's not

2111
02:00:36,240 --> 02:00:39,840
Speaker 1: really loud though, but it's loud. It's not heavy, it's light.

2112
02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:42,800
Speaker 1: It's it's loud in the in the high end sense

2113
02:00:42,840 --> 02:00:43,200
Speaker 1: of the word.

2114
02:00:43,320 --> 02:00:45,000
Speaker 10: But do you feel like it has a lot of compression?

2115
02:00:45,120 --> 02:00:45,760
Speaker 10: Takes a Nation.

2116
02:00:45,760 --> 02:00:49,839
Speaker 3: Milly a lot, right, Yes, So how did you guys loudness?

2117
02:00:49,920 --> 02:00:53,120
Speaker 3: How did you guys achieve that? Because that's some hard Bob.

2118
02:00:53,120 --> 02:00:58,440
Speaker 10: Because Bob, I mean, his thing is about placement too,

2119
02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:05,240
Speaker 10: Like a guitar should kind of naturally be in like anywhere.

2120
02:01:05,640 --> 02:01:08,720
Speaker 10: If it's a rhythm guitar, it shouldn't naturally be in

2121
02:01:08,920 --> 02:01:12,880
Speaker 10: kind of like a you know, low mid, the bottom

2122
02:01:13,000 --> 02:01:15,320
Speaker 10: end of a low mid, so anywhere from like three hundred,

2123
02:01:16,240 --> 02:01:18,640
Speaker 10: you know, up to kind of maybe like Bob was

2124
02:01:18,680 --> 02:01:22,240
Speaker 10: so scientific with it, you know too, you know, it

2125
02:01:22,280 --> 02:01:25,600
Speaker 10: should be there, and then the bass has its section

2126
02:01:26,000 --> 02:01:29,520
Speaker 10: like depending that he was more about the natural placement

2127
02:01:29,640 --> 02:01:32,640
Speaker 10: of music and vocals and the sections of it, not

2128
02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:36,040
Speaker 10: too much compressions. And he really liked to use a

2129
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:40,320
Speaker 10: lot of you know going through like we we worked

2130
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:43,080
Speaker 10: on that on the blow and there you worked on

2131
02:01:43,160 --> 02:01:48,280
Speaker 10: the John Lennon Eve that was in battery. What Yeah,

2132
02:01:48,280 --> 02:01:49,040
Speaker 10: that was in battery.

2133
02:01:49,240 --> 02:01:50,600
Speaker 3: Damn, that was before my time.

2134
02:01:51,400 --> 02:01:54,960
Speaker 10: That was I was in studio b really, So we

2135
02:01:55,040 --> 02:01:57,880
Speaker 10: did a lot of shit going through that Neve and

2136
02:01:57,960 --> 02:02:01,040
Speaker 10: then we wind up mixing in a on the SSL.

2137
02:02:02,480 --> 02:02:05,520
Speaker 10: So the actual recording of it, the ship I was

2138
02:02:05,600 --> 02:02:08,280
Speaker 10: giving him, I was giving him, So.

2139
02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:11,960
Speaker 1: You would record that battery on in the b room. Yeah,

2140
02:02:13,360 --> 02:02:14,760
Speaker 1: do you miss going to battery just.

2141
02:02:14,760 --> 02:02:17,280
Speaker 3: To feel Yeah, it was fun.

2142
02:02:18,400 --> 02:02:21,800
Speaker 1: Like when did y'all go, because y'all was We started

2143
02:02:22,520 --> 02:02:25,520
Speaker 1: December of ninety three, so.

2144
02:02:27,360 --> 02:02:27,960
Speaker 3: What's weird?

2145
02:02:28,720 --> 02:02:30,800
Speaker 10: Was Okay, the first joint y'all did. Y'all did home?

2146
02:02:31,080 --> 02:02:31,200
Speaker 3: Right?

2147
02:02:31,760 --> 02:02:35,720
Speaker 1: Well, we did organics home at some spot in Nepolis,

2148
02:02:36,240 --> 02:02:36,959
Speaker 1: great studios.

2149
02:02:37,120 --> 02:02:38,600
Speaker 3: Well that was like in the grid. We didn't know

2150
02:02:38,600 --> 02:02:39,240
Speaker 3: what we were doing.

2151
02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:44,080
Speaker 1: So all of Christmas of nineteen ninety three, and this

2152
02:02:44,240 --> 02:02:47,000
Speaker 1: before automation. This is on two inch tapes, so like

2153
02:02:48,120 --> 02:02:50,760
Speaker 1: you know, I would regretfully, like the guys would get

2154
02:02:50,800 --> 02:02:52,440
Speaker 1: mad at me if I'd say, like, okay, I want

2155
02:02:52,480 --> 02:02:56,200
Speaker 1: to echo on this part, which would mean that Bob

2156
02:02:56,240 --> 02:03:00,520
Speaker 1: would rewind rewind, and you know when you rewind the

2157
02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:04,800
Speaker 1: tape that's already ninety seconds worth of time. Now we're

2158
02:03:05,280 --> 02:03:08,560
Speaker 1: trying to perfect it. Any any request I had of

2159
02:03:08,640 --> 02:03:10,800
Speaker 1: Bob Power was a twenty minute exercise.

2160
02:03:11,520 --> 02:03:17,440
Speaker 3: So we're taking eight to nine hours per song per day.

2161
02:03:17,680 --> 02:03:20,960
Speaker 1: And you know we were used to just knocking shit

2162
02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:23,400
Speaker 1: out like okay, now song's done, but now it's like

2163
02:03:24,280 --> 02:03:27,000
Speaker 1: but Bob explaining like this is the meticulous process.

2164
02:03:26,680 --> 02:03:29,040
Speaker 10: And guys, I need some quiet. If you guys want

2165
02:03:29,080 --> 02:03:31,440
Speaker 10: to talk, please guys go another room.

2166
02:03:32,040 --> 02:03:32,840
Speaker 3: Did you hear that a lot?

2167
02:03:32,920 --> 02:03:33,560
Speaker 10: Did you hear that a lot?

2168
02:03:33,640 --> 02:03:34,840
Speaker 3: I said that a lot? Boss Bill.

2169
02:03:35,080 --> 02:03:37,720
Speaker 1: Boss Bill has alerted me to the fact that what's

2170
02:03:37,800 --> 02:03:42,560
Speaker 1: the website all Music All Music or discocks When you

2171
02:03:42,640 --> 02:03:47,040
Speaker 1: go to discogs and you look up someone's information. Because

2172
02:03:47,320 --> 02:03:51,280
Speaker 1: I gave Bob a new moniker title for each song,

2173
02:03:51,400 --> 02:03:53,000
Speaker 1: it would be like mixed by Bob.

2174
02:03:53,160 --> 02:03:54,840
Speaker 3: Guys, you really must take this in the break room.

2175
02:03:54,960 --> 02:04:00,120
Speaker 3: Power he has over he has over like sixty his

2176
02:04:00,240 --> 02:04:03,280
Speaker 3: credits guys. Really, I left you, guys some food in

2177
02:04:03,320 --> 02:04:04,840
Speaker 3: the fridge. Go check it out. Why I mix this

2178
02:04:04,920 --> 02:04:09,720
Speaker 3: song like literally, yeah, Bob was you it must be quiet?

2179
02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:12,160
Speaker 1: There was no like, none of that, none of the

2180
02:04:12,200 --> 02:04:14,560
Speaker 1: ship that I thought was going to happen when you

2181
02:04:14,680 --> 02:04:17,960
Speaker 1: make a rap record, like girls and parties and all

2182
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:20,440
Speaker 1: that stuff. None of that was going on at Root sessions,

2183
02:04:20,520 --> 02:04:23,040
Speaker 1: like we were quiet and and focused.

2184
02:04:23,400 --> 02:04:27,640
Speaker 10: Guys. I just need a little bit of quiet, please, Tip,

2185
02:04:27,640 --> 02:04:29,440
Speaker 10: Why don't you come in and take a little you know, I.

2186
02:04:31,080 --> 02:04:33,760
Speaker 3: You know, I know it didn't get right right exactly.

2187
02:04:34,280 --> 02:04:37,480
Speaker 1: He would talk you down in a non condescending in

2188
02:04:37,520 --> 02:04:39,360
Speaker 1: a way you feel like, yeah, you are doing this

2189
02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:41,880
Speaker 1: for the greater good, Bob. Okay, let me take all

2190
02:04:41,920 --> 02:04:45,160
Speaker 1: this weed and hookers and the right right right right right,

2191
02:04:49,880 --> 02:04:51,800
Speaker 1: all right. Well, at this rate, I'll be lucky to

2192
02:04:51,840 --> 02:04:52,680
Speaker 1: get the Midnight Maran.

2193
02:04:52,880 --> 02:04:55,640
Speaker 3: We gotta gets now, let's come on, all right, so look,

2194
02:04:56,640 --> 02:04:57,280
Speaker 3: so look.

2195
02:04:59,320 --> 02:04:59,560
Speaker 5: For me.

2196
02:05:00,080 --> 02:05:03,400
Speaker 1: Know this is nerd facts, but it should be noted.

2197
02:05:04,240 --> 02:05:07,680
Speaker 1: It should be noted that, uh, I feel like the

2198
02:05:07,760 --> 02:05:14,800
Speaker 1: scenario remix ushered in well, the chopping of the chopping

2199
02:05:14,840 --> 02:05:20,040
Speaker 1: of Blind Alley and what it represented. I felt like

2200
02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:26,000
Speaker 1: that was the most influential move that you guys did

2201
02:05:26,120 --> 02:05:28,080
Speaker 1: as producers, because.

2202
02:05:27,800 --> 02:05:28,640
Speaker 3: Pretty soon.

2203
02:05:30,080 --> 02:05:34,920
Speaker 1: When Kats heard Blind Alley chopped in a way okay,

2204
02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:38,160
Speaker 1: I'm speaking of the emotions Blind.

2205
02:05:37,880 --> 02:05:43,360
Speaker 11: Alley ain't no half step in being yeah, all these

2206
02:05:43,400 --> 02:05:47,880
Speaker 11: songs and you brought it back for phony rappers on uh.

2207
02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:56,120
Speaker 3: So to to chop it up in a way in which.

2208
02:05:57,600 --> 02:06:00,080
Speaker 1: I feel like producers were like, wait a minute, you

2209
02:06:00,120 --> 02:06:03,160
Speaker 1: don't have to play the complete four bar phrase of

2210
02:06:03,560 --> 02:06:04,240
Speaker 1: a drum.

2211
02:06:04,080 --> 02:06:04,680
Speaker 3: Weekend now.

2212
02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:09,600
Speaker 10: That that you know, just to interrupt that happened on

2213
02:06:09,720 --> 02:06:12,920
Speaker 10: check the rhyme. Actually, because I remember having a conversation

2214
02:06:13,120 --> 02:06:18,040
Speaker 10: with Large because prior to this, and this is not

2215
02:06:18,200 --> 02:06:20,240
Speaker 10: like me trying to do none of that ship but

2216
02:06:20,480 --> 02:06:23,800
Speaker 10: just on some like producers ship, geeky whatever. But I

2217
02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:26,760
Speaker 10: remember having a conversation with Large Professor, and I was like, Yo,

2218
02:06:27,960 --> 02:06:29,920
Speaker 10: those drums on the ep m D album. You know

2219
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:31,080
Speaker 10: that E P m D song?

2220
02:06:33,440 --> 02:06:34,720
Speaker 3: Uh it was.

2221
02:06:37,920 --> 02:06:41,240
Speaker 10: The Hydro It was on their album, right, and they

2222
02:06:41,320 --> 02:06:44,040
Speaker 10: had the whole loop just playing, and I had the

2223
02:06:44,200 --> 02:06:47,200
Speaker 10: I had the record and I remember just wait, you

2224
02:06:48,200 --> 02:06:56,800
Speaker 10: remember yo. I remember just playing it and I was like, yo, Paul, Yo,

2225
02:06:57,880 --> 02:07:00,760
Speaker 10: I could just get half a bar. All these drums

2226
02:07:00,840 --> 02:07:03,440
Speaker 10: they're naked right here, and I can extend it.

2227
02:07:05,680 --> 02:07:06,720
Speaker 13: He was like what you mean.

2228
02:07:06,920 --> 02:07:10,640
Speaker 10: I was like, yo, listen, and it was like, doom.

2229
02:07:10,520 --> 02:07:26,720
Speaker 3: Do do forgive me? Do this Hydra Washington Jr.

2230
02:07:27,640 --> 02:07:29,160
Speaker 10: And then I just took an extra and then I

2231
02:07:29,240 --> 02:07:31,520
Speaker 10: took an extra kick off of the mini rip he

2232
02:07:31,800 --> 02:07:33,400
Speaker 10: put it, and I was like, Yo, look at this kick.

2233
02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:36,000
Speaker 3: Just translate for me. I'm just having a moment.

2234
02:07:36,480 --> 02:07:41,280
Speaker 10: Yeah, that was the first time. Yeah, you could take

2235
02:07:41,440 --> 02:07:48,920
Speaker 10: half of a half a half a bar. Like it

2236
02:07:49,080 --> 02:07:52,000
Speaker 10: wasn't that wasn't being done, you know what I'm saying.

2237
02:07:52,120 --> 02:07:53,880
Speaker 10: So it was just like you would get the loop

2238
02:07:54,000 --> 02:07:56,760
Speaker 10: and loop it, or you'd have a program still to

2239
02:07:56,880 --> 02:07:59,320
Speaker 10: that point. But to realize that you could just get

2240
02:07:59,320 --> 02:08:01,160
Speaker 10: a little fun peace and extended.

2241
02:08:01,200 --> 02:08:06,840
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Ship, it was so weird that

2242
02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:09,880
Speaker 1: you said that, because when you said check the rhyme,

2243
02:08:10,000 --> 02:08:12,120
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, well, that doesn't count to because

2244
02:08:12,160 --> 02:08:13,640
Speaker 1: no one knows what those drums are anyway.

2245
02:08:14,400 --> 02:08:18,440
Speaker 3: We know them all alone, all right, Philadelphia's own Grove,

2246
02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:24,640
Speaker 3: Washing Bosville Just go Sie Sie.

2247
02:08:24,960 --> 02:08:28,280
Speaker 1: Side note Lewis Johnson and the Brothers. Johnson is playing

2248
02:08:28,440 --> 02:08:34,000
Speaker 1: base and Steve, you are the master.

2249
02:08:33,840 --> 02:08:35,200
Speaker 3: Of all things. Cree Taylor.

2250
02:08:35,480 --> 02:08:39,560
Speaker 15: Uh oh, yes, kudo, Yes, what what album is?

2251
02:08:39,600 --> 02:08:39,640
Speaker 6: It?

2252
02:08:41,240 --> 02:08:41,360
Speaker 11: Is it?

2253
02:08:41,560 --> 02:08:42,200
Speaker 10: Feeling so good?

2254
02:08:42,560 --> 02:08:47,920
Speaker 3: Feel so good? Damn mm hmm.

2255
02:08:50,120 --> 02:08:50,520
Speaker 12: Mm hmm.

2256
02:08:53,600 --> 02:09:00,760
Speaker 3: Papa love it? Play check the rhyme I will.

2257
02:09:01,000 --> 02:09:03,600
Speaker 1: I would still love to flip it, show our listeners

2258
02:09:04,120 --> 02:09:05,280
Speaker 1: exactly I was made.

2259
02:09:05,360 --> 02:09:07,480
Speaker 3: But you know I can hear it. They can hear it,

2260
02:09:07,480 --> 02:09:15,480
Speaker 3: because yes, if you couldn't hear poison, if Auntie can

2261
02:09:15,520 --> 02:09:15,720
Speaker 3: hear it?

2262
02:09:17,440 --> 02:09:22,440
Speaker 10: Yo, where was where was Creed Tailor's studio at Creed

2263
02:09:22,520 --> 02:09:25,520
Speaker 10: Taylor Studio the ct I like, where did he cut

2264
02:09:25,640 --> 02:09:27,960
Speaker 10: Rudy van Gelder? Oh he cut it. He cut it

2265
02:09:28,040 --> 02:09:28,760
Speaker 10: in Englewood.

2266
02:09:28,920 --> 02:09:31,960
Speaker 15: Everything there, yeah, all at ct I she was cut.

2267
02:09:35,560 --> 02:09:38,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that, all right, just for tip, I'll

2268
02:09:38,640 --> 02:09:44,480
Speaker 1: do it right now, Thank you, thank you, You're welcome.

2269
02:09:45,000 --> 02:09:46,080
Speaker 3: Now I forgot what I was looking for.

2270
02:09:46,640 --> 02:09:51,560
Speaker 16: The kudoo stuff too, mainly over there, some stuff at electrically. Actually,

2271
02:09:51,800 --> 02:09:54,480
Speaker 16: I realized that it should be a museum. The reason

2272
02:09:54,520 --> 02:09:56,240
Speaker 16: why it was taking me so long was because I

2273
02:09:56,320 --> 02:09:57,520
Speaker 16: forgot that rhyme was spelled.

2274
02:10:00,080 --> 02:10:01,800
Speaker 3: They cut Love Supreme in that room.

2275
02:10:03,200 --> 02:10:06,880
Speaker 15: They cut all that blue note. You know, all blue note.

2276
02:10:07,680 --> 02:10:08,080
Speaker 13: I hear.

2277
02:10:09,800 --> 02:10:13,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, boom boom, boom boom. It's fucking amazing.

2278
02:10:19,240 --> 02:10:23,080
Speaker 1: Speaking of speaking of that, speaking of the remix, Yeah,

2279
02:10:23,120 --> 02:10:27,000
Speaker 1: speaking of the remix, Uh, where did Hood come from?

2280
02:10:27,760 --> 02:10:33,680
Speaker 10: The Hood was through on my Way, you know street k.

2281
02:10:33,800 --> 02:10:35,520
Speaker 10: He was in and out of group homes. He was

2282
02:10:36,120 --> 02:10:40,040
Speaker 10: really trying to get it together, and I was looking

2283
02:10:40,160 --> 02:10:44,160
Speaker 10: forward to working with him because kind of pre dating,

2284
02:10:44,680 --> 02:10:49,760
Speaker 10: you know, a Redman or b I G like, I

2285
02:10:49,880 --> 02:10:53,040
Speaker 10: thought that, like he kind of occupies something that I

2286
02:10:53,120 --> 02:10:55,800
Speaker 10: hadn't heard in about, like a real, real street energy

2287
02:10:55,880 --> 02:11:00,120
Speaker 10: that was now but it was just real like he

2288
02:11:00,200 --> 02:11:04,320
Speaker 10: has he has rhms man. He was dope, and unfortunately

2289
02:11:04,400 --> 02:11:07,560
Speaker 10: I was the only he was from Hollis. I was

2290
02:11:07,640 --> 02:11:10,840
Speaker 10: the only joint that he got to do. He didn't

2291
02:11:10,840 --> 02:11:12,800
Speaker 10: even get to see that come out.

2292
02:11:13,400 --> 02:11:17,840
Speaker 3: Oh damn. How long was his demise after Well.

2293
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:20,160
Speaker 10: After we did the record, he was murdered. I think

2294
02:11:21,000 --> 02:11:23,280
Speaker 10: the week after damn Jesus.

2295
02:11:23,480 --> 02:11:27,760
Speaker 1: Okay, So how many versions of scenario are there? And

2296
02:11:28,120 --> 02:11:30,360
Speaker 1: why did it go through so many drafts before we

2297
02:11:30,520 --> 02:11:33,480
Speaker 1: wound up with the final version that we have.

2298
02:11:34,240 --> 02:11:39,440
Speaker 10: I think there's like one which is original two.

2299
02:11:40,000 --> 02:11:41,440
Speaker 3: Do you know who was on each version.

2300
02:11:43,320 --> 02:11:46,680
Speaker 10: No, I know, there's a there's one version with us

2301
02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:54,200
Speaker 10: again with there's one there actually four. There's the riginal,

2302
02:11:54,280 --> 02:11:57,600
Speaker 10: there's the one that's out. Then there's another version with

2303
02:11:58,480 --> 02:12:00,320
Speaker 10: all of us who were on the record, with just

2304
02:12:00,440 --> 02:12:04,440
Speaker 10: different placement in different little versions.

2305
02:12:05,240 --> 02:12:07,920
Speaker 3: So there's this different way Busted doesn't end the song and.

2306
02:12:09,720 --> 02:12:15,240
Speaker 10: He does, yeah, something something different. It was a rough

2307
02:12:15,320 --> 02:12:17,440
Speaker 10: about it. I don't know if he didn't end it,

2308
02:12:17,840 --> 02:12:19,760
Speaker 10: but I know it's a different rap a little bit.

2309
02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:23,800
Speaker 10: Then there's another version with Jirobi.

2310
02:12:25,880 --> 02:12:26,960
Speaker 3: And pass.

2311
02:12:28,120 --> 02:12:31,720
Speaker 10: On it and right that, and then there's another version

2312
02:12:31,880 --> 02:12:36,680
Speaker 10: with Dress pause and Chris Lady.

2313
02:12:40,480 --> 02:12:42,720
Speaker 3: Like, this is our moment. Let let's not mess this

2314
02:12:42,880 --> 02:12:43,120
Speaker 3: up for.

2315
02:12:43,520 --> 02:12:45,400
Speaker 10: I already knew that it was going to be the

2316
02:12:45,480 --> 02:12:45,920
Speaker 10: first one.

2317
02:12:47,720 --> 02:12:49,600
Speaker 3: So the album version is the first one.

2318
02:12:50,160 --> 02:12:51,880
Speaker 10: Yeah, I already knew that that was going to be it.

2319
02:12:52,120 --> 02:12:55,200
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, let me make sure this straight. The

2320
02:12:55,320 --> 02:13:00,640
Speaker 1: version that's on the album, Yes, was done completely as

2321
02:13:00,760 --> 02:13:04,480
Speaker 1: we know it. And you're saying that there was a

2322
02:13:04,600 --> 02:13:07,080
Speaker 1: discussion like we could do better.

2323
02:13:07,440 --> 02:13:10,680
Speaker 10: We did that and I kind of knew what it was.

2324
02:13:10,840 --> 02:13:13,680
Speaker 10: But everybody was in there and heard it and heard

2325
02:13:13,720 --> 02:13:15,880
Speaker 10: about it was like run on it.

2326
02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:22,080
Speaker 3: Yes, So here's the other million dollar questions and you

2327
02:13:22,160 --> 02:13:22,720
Speaker 3: know what's coming.

2328
02:13:23,320 --> 02:13:23,800
Speaker 10: Mm hmmm.

2329
02:13:24,200 --> 02:13:28,640
Speaker 3: Why wasn't Daylight on every any tribe records and award tour?

2330
02:13:28,640 --> 02:13:30,760
Speaker 3: It doesn't count, you know.

2331
02:13:32,960 --> 02:13:33,680
Speaker 10: I wanted.

2332
02:13:35,520 --> 02:13:37,560
Speaker 3: Fantasy in our minds. No, no, no, no, no no.

2333
02:13:38,320 --> 02:13:42,920
Speaker 10: The first thing I wanted to do. I had a

2334
02:13:43,080 --> 02:13:47,400
Speaker 10: record called Native Tongues for the first album and it

2335
02:13:47,600 --> 02:13:52,200
Speaker 10: sampled Pride and Vanity by Ohio Players. I still have

2336
02:13:52,280 --> 02:13:57,120
Speaker 10: to beat actually, but and I played it. I told

2337
02:13:57,200 --> 02:13:59,280
Speaker 10: Daylight and Jungles that come by. I got the I

2338
02:13:59,320 --> 02:14:02,680
Speaker 10: got the record for all us. And then I had

2339
02:14:02,920 --> 02:14:08,320
Speaker 10: like on Instinctive Travels ship right, and so then I

2340
02:14:08,480 --> 02:14:11,880
Speaker 10: was playing it and passing him was like, you know, mercy,

2341
02:14:13,680 --> 02:14:16,640
Speaker 10: you know, listen to a dude. That ship day was

2342
02:14:16,800 --> 02:14:20,080
Speaker 10: just to see it. So and then because when we

2343
02:14:20,280 --> 02:14:22,560
Speaker 10: walked in, when they walked in, we were working on

2344
02:14:22,640 --> 02:14:25,640
Speaker 10: mister Muhammad oh man. It was the first tam he

2345
02:14:25,760 --> 02:14:27,280
Speaker 10: heard it and he was like, I was like.

2346
02:14:27,360 --> 02:14:30,200
Speaker 3: Yo, that that's hype. That's the hype. That's the hype.

2347
02:14:30,240 --> 02:14:32,280
Speaker 10: He kept saying, that's like yo, But let me play

2348
02:14:32,320 --> 02:14:33,880
Speaker 10: you the beat for Native Tongue, and it's all like

2349
02:14:34,040 --> 02:14:46,280
Speaker 10: do do do, dude, and where, And he was like, no,

2350
02:14:46,440 --> 02:14:49,440
Speaker 10: we're gonna rob on the other one. I was like, nah,

2351
02:14:49,560 --> 02:14:52,200
Speaker 10: that's mister morass. At least joined now, y'all not roming

2352
02:14:52,280 --> 02:14:53,160
Speaker 10: on that. It's this one.

2353
02:14:53,920 --> 02:14:56,160
Speaker 3: No, fuck that other one.

2354
02:14:56,280 --> 02:14:58,760
Speaker 10: Come on, y'all, come on, pause, come on, come on,

2355
02:14:58,880 --> 02:14:59,240
Speaker 10: let's do it.

2356
02:15:00,120 --> 02:15:01,640
Speaker 3: We rubbing the other world.

2357
02:15:02,880 --> 02:15:10,400
Speaker 10: And I was looking at him. I was like, I

2358
02:15:10,520 --> 02:15:15,760
Speaker 10: was like, well, this is a rhyme on it, so

2359
02:15:15,920 --> 02:15:16,880
Speaker 10: that would never happen.

2360
02:15:17,920 --> 02:15:21,000
Speaker 3: Then, well that doesn't count.

2361
02:15:21,400 --> 02:15:25,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, that doesn't count. I was that was the one

2362
02:15:25,800 --> 02:15:29,600
Speaker 10: chance I believe other than a war tour and the

2363
02:15:30,120 --> 02:15:31,760
Speaker 10: scenario things, you.

2364
02:15:31,840 --> 02:15:35,520
Speaker 1: Know, because like every native tongue entry has their own

2365
02:15:35,640 --> 02:15:38,760
Speaker 1: native tongue posse cut on it, and.

2366
02:15:40,480 --> 02:15:43,160
Speaker 3: It never happened on a tribe record. And I just.

2367
02:15:44,800 --> 02:15:50,080
Speaker 10: All right, so Midnight there's a there's a version of

2368
02:15:50,440 --> 02:15:52,160
Speaker 10: Midnight with.

2369
02:15:52,680 --> 02:15:56,360
Speaker 3: Ad Rock on it. The night is on my mind.

2370
02:15:56,600 --> 02:15:58,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, But before it was even that, it was just

2371
02:15:58,840 --> 02:16:02,040
Speaker 10: a beat over there.

2372
02:16:02,880 --> 02:16:05,920
Speaker 1: Wow, I just found that ship. Uh, the George Juke

2373
02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:10,680
Speaker 1: Jordan m hm, wow, ah, don't make me figure out

2374
02:16:10,720 --> 02:16:11,080
Speaker 1: what it is?

2375
02:16:12,080 --> 02:16:12,440
Speaker 10: The aura?

2376
02:16:14,080 --> 02:16:14,280
Speaker 7: Ah?

2377
02:16:15,360 --> 02:16:20,360
Speaker 3: Is it? Okay? Yes, that's it? You sure you found it?

2378
02:16:20,720 --> 02:16:20,920
Speaker 7: Well?

2379
02:16:21,080 --> 02:16:25,120
Speaker 1: I knew I was on it because it felt familiar.

2380
02:16:25,160 --> 02:16:27,240
Speaker 1: I didn't figure out which cord y'all used, but it.

2381
02:16:27,280 --> 02:16:29,480
Speaker 10: Was just who was the voice for the tour guide

2382
02:16:30,680 --> 02:16:33,440
Speaker 10: Rest in peace? Laurel Dan She just passed last year.

2383
02:16:33,680 --> 02:16:34,640
Speaker 3: Oh man, she was.

2384
02:16:35,959 --> 02:16:41,520
Speaker 10: She was the production coordinator at Jive. Sweet lady, like

2385
02:16:41,760 --> 02:16:47,400
Speaker 10: just super nice and oh man, she was white, white, Yeah,

2386
02:16:47,480 --> 02:16:50,360
Speaker 10: but she was super cool. Man Like, I feel like

2387
02:16:52,760 --> 02:16:53,400
Speaker 10: she was dope.

2388
02:16:53,520 --> 02:16:55,520
Speaker 3: And how did y'all eq her voice to make it

2389
02:16:55,640 --> 02:16:56,000
Speaker 3: sound like that?

2390
02:16:56,280 --> 02:16:57,720
Speaker 10: You know, we just wanted to make it sound like

2391
02:16:57,800 --> 02:17:01,280
Speaker 10: a computer or phone something like that, something that was

2392
02:17:01,400 --> 02:17:04,240
Speaker 10: just that didn't funk with the other frequencies and ship.

2393
02:17:04,600 --> 02:17:08,000
Speaker 10: You know, this is the voice on your Yeah. I

2394
02:17:08,000 --> 02:17:10,840
Speaker 10: remember writing all of that ship out for her and

2395
02:17:10,959 --> 02:17:13,440
Speaker 10: telling her say it like this, No, no, say it

2396
02:17:13,560 --> 02:17:16,000
Speaker 10: like this. And I was like, Okay, now, Bob, you

2397
02:17:16,040 --> 02:17:18,040
Speaker 10: gotta chop it. I know, I know, Tip, I know,

2398
02:17:18,240 --> 02:17:18,440
Speaker 10: I know.

2399
02:17:18,840 --> 02:17:19,200
Speaker 3: So he was.

2400
02:17:20,120 --> 02:17:23,080
Speaker 10: I was. I was more excited about that than anything

2401
02:17:23,120 --> 02:17:25,640
Speaker 10: else on the record. I said, Okay, got it, got

2402
02:17:25,920 --> 02:17:27,880
Speaker 10: exactly Tip, I know.

2403
02:17:29,360 --> 02:17:33,160
Speaker 3: And hard computer? How do you do that?

2404
02:17:33,280 --> 02:17:33,400
Speaker 5: Ye?

2405
02:17:33,640 --> 02:17:35,600
Speaker 3: Like he's chopping it, like you mean, like on actual

2406
02:17:35,680 --> 02:17:37,119
Speaker 3: real he's chopping a voice.

2407
02:17:37,959 --> 02:17:43,040
Speaker 10: That was done on tape.

2408
02:17:43,800 --> 02:17:46,280
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yeah.

2409
02:17:47,120 --> 02:17:49,800
Speaker 10: She would say, oh no, no, no no no no no,

2410
02:17:49,920 --> 02:17:53,560
Speaker 10: no no no, I gotta ask Bob. I can't remember.

2411
02:17:53,760 --> 02:17:56,360
Speaker 10: I wanted to say it was either done tape or

2412
02:17:56,400 --> 02:17:59,200
Speaker 10: it was a or it was samples and I would

2413
02:17:59,240 --> 02:18:02,360
Speaker 10: fire off this sample, the fire off the sample for

2414
02:18:02,440 --> 02:18:05,800
Speaker 10: the next phrase, like I am on the front of

2415
02:18:05,920 --> 02:18:10,080
Speaker 10: your album cover and then yeah, you're about to you know,

2416
02:18:12,640 --> 02:18:15,720
Speaker 10: I tried quest, you know, I think it was.

2417
02:18:15,760 --> 02:18:19,800
Speaker 11: That cute tip. Was that the first time? So you

2418
02:18:19,959 --> 02:18:24,199
Speaker 11: carried that, uh that graphic over into the Beats Rhymes

2419
02:18:24,240 --> 02:18:26,440
Speaker 11: and Life cover And I've always wanted to ask.

2420
02:18:26,320 --> 02:18:31,000
Speaker 3: You this, Yeah, who is that person? Yeah? No, well no,

2421
02:18:31,120 --> 02:18:35,280
Speaker 3: that was it. I'm sorry, No, you know you was

2422
02:18:35,400 --> 02:18:37,440
Speaker 3: kind of completing it right, who was that person?

2423
02:18:37,520 --> 02:18:40,840
Speaker 11: And also my my theory or how I always interpreted

2424
02:18:40,879 --> 02:18:44,720
Speaker 11: the Beats Rhymes and Life cover. To me, it looked like,

2425
02:18:46,400 --> 02:18:48,800
Speaker 11: because this is around the time, this is like Biggie pop,

2426
02:18:48,920 --> 02:18:50,720
Speaker 11: like all that ship was going on, and it just

2427
02:18:50,800 --> 02:18:53,320
Speaker 11: looked like hip hop was just kind of in a

2428
02:18:53,400 --> 02:18:55,560
Speaker 11: state of emergency, and you know, so you had like

2429
02:18:55,680 --> 02:18:58,720
Speaker 11: the red, black and green, the figure was crying and

2430
02:18:58,800 --> 02:19:02,320
Speaker 11: the city was burning, and to me, it just that's

2431
02:19:02,400 --> 02:19:03,240
Speaker 11: what it represented.

2432
02:19:03,280 --> 02:19:06,200
Speaker 3: It represented hip hop kind of falling apart.

2433
02:19:08,200 --> 02:19:13,080
Speaker 10: I mean, it was just like be Rhyme's a life period.

2434
02:19:17,480 --> 02:19:20,040
Speaker 10: It was an odd time. It was a little dark,

2435
02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:24,080
Speaker 10: just because I guess Fife and I were having our

2436
02:19:25,480 --> 02:19:30,879
Speaker 10: issues and I converted Islam and then I met Dyla

2437
02:19:32,240 --> 02:19:36,360
Speaker 10: and just meeting him was just like a bright spot

2438
02:19:36,800 --> 02:19:39,640
Speaker 10: and bringing him in on the record, and I bought

2439
02:19:40,120 --> 02:19:43,720
Speaker 10: some Consequence on the record. So I guess everybody started

2440
02:19:43,760 --> 02:19:47,840
Speaker 10: feeling threatened. And my whole thing was like come on,

2441
02:19:47,959 --> 02:19:50,040
Speaker 10: you know, I was all this old happy go like no,

2442
02:19:50,160 --> 02:19:52,400
Speaker 10: it's a tribe. Everybody could come on your hey, you know.

2443
02:19:52,560 --> 02:19:57,160
Speaker 10: And I don't think everybody was feeling nats. But I

2444
02:19:57,360 --> 02:20:00,720
Speaker 10: just wanted to kind of like be more expansive. I

2445
02:20:00,800 --> 02:20:04,800
Speaker 10: felt like, you know, the way that hip hop was

2446
02:20:04,840 --> 02:20:10,280
Speaker 10: starting to shift, even though we weren't necessarily following the

2447
02:20:10,440 --> 02:20:14,840
Speaker 10: same course per se, I still wanted to put something

2448
02:20:14,959 --> 02:20:19,720
Speaker 10: in there that still represented still represented like a growth,

2449
02:20:19,840 --> 02:20:22,680
Speaker 10: if you would, or some sort of like you know,

2450
02:20:22,959 --> 02:20:28,160
Speaker 10: new elements. Just we're changing in our own way, you know, uh,

2451
02:20:28,879 --> 02:20:33,640
Speaker 10: the same at the same time that the genre is changing.

2452
02:20:34,720 --> 02:20:37,760
Speaker 10: So you know, it just brought it was a lot

2453
02:20:37,840 --> 02:20:44,440
Speaker 10: of stuff that wasn't discussed, wasn't clear when people put

2454
02:20:44,520 --> 02:20:48,160
Speaker 10: us on this pedalestal at the time critically and all

2455
02:20:48,200 --> 02:20:48,520
Speaker 10: the shit.

2456
02:20:48,680 --> 02:20:51,160
Speaker 11: So sorry, but I mean, but y'all had released like

2457
02:20:51,280 --> 02:20:54,039
Speaker 11: three perfect albums before, so it's kind of like, I mean,

2458
02:20:54,600 --> 02:20:56,560
Speaker 11: you can understand where that pedestal came from.

2459
02:20:56,879 --> 02:20:58,240
Speaker 3: I mean, it was I was saying it was a

2460
02:20:58,280 --> 02:20:59,280
Speaker 3: well deserved pedestal.

2461
02:21:00,160 --> 02:21:03,480
Speaker 10: Well, I you know, after that first.

2462
02:21:07,360 --> 02:21:09,960
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, why are we skipping a record? Like

2463
02:21:10,040 --> 02:21:12,520
Speaker 3: we know, we're not We're we was just asked the question.

2464
02:21:12,640 --> 02:21:14,640
Speaker 1: I was just he was talking about the figurine and

2465
02:21:14,760 --> 02:21:19,680
Speaker 1: whatever whatever represent Wait before we go to the dark place, wait,

2466
02:21:19,920 --> 02:21:26,160
Speaker 1: go to the happening place. Please explain this, tell me

2467
02:21:26,240 --> 02:21:28,520
Speaker 1: the story. All Right, I'm gonna play. I'm gonna play

2468
02:21:28,600 --> 02:21:30,640
Speaker 1: this for it, I'm gonna play. I'm gonna play you

2469
02:21:30,760 --> 02:21:33,400
Speaker 1: this and you explain what this means to you. This

2470
02:21:33,560 --> 02:21:36,080
Speaker 1: Don't walk Away by Jade on Quest Love Supreme.

2471
02:21:50,560 --> 02:21:52,400
Speaker 10: Joy Lit It know you're in the constant mind.

2472
02:21:56,280 --> 02:22:01,160
Speaker 3: I'm the one with the bracest of course, no rock,

2473
02:22:01,720 --> 02:22:08,640
Speaker 3: another rock, got a rock home. How about said there

2474
02:22:09,879 --> 02:22:12,000
Speaker 3: there's a reason why I'm playing this. Ladies, and gentlemen,

2475
02:22:12,440 --> 02:22:13,760
Speaker 3: Tim's gonna explain why.

2476
02:22:23,760 --> 02:22:25,760
Speaker 10: Shout the girls who have poetic justice braids?

2477
02:22:25,920 --> 02:22:31,640
Speaker 3: Can? I? Yi, you're an R and B head head.

2478
02:22:32,480 --> 02:22:36,280
Speaker 1: That's weird to me because it's like you live in

2479
02:22:36,360 --> 02:22:39,320
Speaker 1: a world where like Gaut McDermott lives.

2480
02:22:40,920 --> 02:22:43,119
Speaker 3: But then right now you're doing the rebot.

2481
02:23:07,040 --> 02:23:07,800
Speaker 10: I just took the video.

2482
02:23:07,879 --> 02:23:12,200
Speaker 3: This is gonna be great because there's no music behind it, like.

2483
02:23:13,280 --> 02:23:21,840
Speaker 1: Garfield Garfield minus Garfield, explain to me why that song

2484
02:23:22,160 --> 02:23:23,000
Speaker 1: is so important to you?

2485
02:23:23,959 --> 02:23:25,400
Speaker 10: Man, this is to that record.

2486
02:23:25,440 --> 02:23:27,840
Speaker 3: That ship is so dope. But this is the thing

2487
02:23:27,920 --> 02:23:28,200
Speaker 3: though in.

2488
02:23:28,200 --> 02:23:30,400
Speaker 10: The baseline obviously, but I heard it.

2489
02:23:30,560 --> 02:23:34,160
Speaker 3: It didn't hit me that way. So how where did

2490
02:23:34,200 --> 02:23:36,880
Speaker 3: it hit you to the point you were like, yo,

2491
02:23:38,400 --> 02:23:39,200
Speaker 3: we gotta go there.

2492
02:23:40,760 --> 02:23:46,080
Speaker 10: Well, of course, turn it off.

2493
02:23:46,640 --> 02:23:51,840
Speaker 3: Wait it's a turning off. Hey hey no oh way,

2494
02:23:55,320 --> 02:24:02,560
Speaker 3: see I'm the only one man is off, said Barb.

2495
02:24:03,560 --> 02:24:14,680
Speaker 10: Put it on Barbar Right, they gotta based off that song? Well, right, yes,

2496
02:24:16,120 --> 02:24:17,000
Speaker 10: you gotta let this play.

2497
02:24:19,240 --> 02:24:25,440
Speaker 3: You gotta get to the don't walk break it down. Okay,

2498
02:24:25,520 --> 02:24:26,080
Speaker 3: this is the breakdown.

2499
02:24:26,120 --> 02:24:29,000
Speaker 10: You can turn it down. No, we just turn it down.

2500
02:24:29,080 --> 02:24:33,240
Speaker 10: Every time we hear the talk over it. It's the baseline,

2501
02:24:33,320 --> 02:24:38,599
Speaker 10: know that you make you explain.

2502
02:24:40,040 --> 02:24:40,280
Speaker 3: Dumb.

2503
02:24:44,560 --> 02:24:47,240
Speaker 10: I was just hit as ship in the club. That

2504
02:24:47,320 --> 02:24:49,320
Speaker 10: ship would just be rocking so hard.

2505
02:24:49,800 --> 02:24:54,560
Speaker 3: All right, the course is back. It's I've heard you

2506
02:24:54,600 --> 02:24:57,520
Speaker 3: played this in the club many times. Yeah, yes, I mean, my.

2507
02:24:57,640 --> 02:25:02,200
Speaker 10: God, and it's an era like the whole era.

2508
02:25:02,360 --> 02:25:05,400
Speaker 3: It's summer ninety three all over. That was a good summer.

2509
02:25:05,440 --> 02:25:07,280
Speaker 10: Oh my god, that she was cracking. So when I

2510
02:25:07,400 --> 02:25:09,400
Speaker 10: heard it, I was like, I gotta make a record

2511
02:25:09,480 --> 02:25:12,240
Speaker 10: like that, that baseline. So I just wanted to like

2512
02:25:13,040 --> 02:25:13,800
Speaker 10: reapproach it.

2513
02:25:14,760 --> 02:25:20,840
Speaker 3: So it was digital digital bom pom pomb, I.

2514
02:25:20,840 --> 02:25:23,440
Speaker 10: Mean, because obviously was going against the Weldon ravine.

2515
02:25:24,600 --> 02:25:28,959
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, I never would have gotten

2516
02:25:30,040 --> 02:25:32,480
Speaker 3: like it took me a long time to figure out.

2517
02:25:32,480 --> 02:25:37,360
Speaker 6: That's where Yeah, boo boo.

2518
02:25:43,520 --> 02:25:46,280
Speaker 3: How do you hear these music ideas? Because because I know.

2519
02:25:46,320 --> 02:25:50,160
Speaker 1: The imergion, because I know I think you're the king,

2520
02:25:50,480 --> 02:25:53,800
Speaker 1: especially with songs like this where you.

2521
02:25:55,360 --> 02:26:01,640
Speaker 3: Will force a a square and a circle peg. Because

2522
02:26:01,680 --> 02:26:05,119
Speaker 3: the thing is the the horn line.

2523
02:26:07,680 --> 02:26:12,080
Speaker 10: Doesn't have anything that is a guitar line from Charles Earling.

2524
02:26:12,160 --> 02:26:12,600
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

2525
02:26:13,360 --> 02:26:16,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the guitar line from Charles Erland has nothing

2526
02:26:16,800 --> 02:26:20,840
Speaker 1: to do with which has nothing to do with the

2527
02:26:20,920 --> 02:26:24,320
Speaker 1: j bassline, which has nothing to do with the bridge.

2528
02:26:26,720 --> 02:26:29,800
Speaker 3: And it works, but you forced it to work.

2529
02:26:30,040 --> 02:26:30,920
Speaker 10: That was fun, wasn't it.

2530
02:26:31,040 --> 02:26:33,280
Speaker 13: Yeah? It always fun.

2531
02:26:33,520 --> 02:26:35,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't have enough dance breaks.

2532
02:26:36,320 --> 02:26:41,119
Speaker 10: You need to have more dance breaks well on every episode.

2533
02:26:42,480 --> 02:26:42,960
Speaker 3: How about this?

2534
02:26:43,720 --> 02:26:45,400
Speaker 9: I was the first guest, now I'm on the show.

2535
02:26:45,440 --> 02:26:47,520
Speaker 9: You can be the fiftieth guest, now you're on the show.

2536
02:26:47,600 --> 02:26:53,480
Speaker 10: I would either that or is this a proposition? A proposal,

2537
02:26:54,360 --> 02:26:55,879
Speaker 10: and you guys could talk it over.

2538
02:26:57,560 --> 02:27:03,600
Speaker 3: The Chapelle level of proposal. Music might not ever have crazy.

2539
02:27:03,640 --> 02:27:05,480
Speaker 3: It's just like a mayor.

2540
02:27:06,120 --> 02:27:07,560
Speaker 10: You gotta trust me on this.

2541
02:27:07,920 --> 02:27:17,840
Speaker 3: Yes, so I have traumatory idea. Great. You don't get.

2542
02:27:19,400 --> 02:27:24,440
Speaker 10: Great idea every time that y'all want to have a

2543
02:27:24,720 --> 02:27:34,080
Speaker 10: dance seg. Just call it the tip dance segue. I

2544
02:27:34,160 --> 02:27:38,600
Speaker 10: don't care nigga. If it's nigga, I have beef with said, Okay,

2545
02:27:38,680 --> 02:27:39,480
Speaker 10: this is the tip.

2546
02:27:39,560 --> 02:27:41,720
Speaker 3: If d do that, you have to record an intro

2547
02:27:41,840 --> 02:27:42,600
Speaker 3: for the second.

2548
02:27:44,440 --> 02:27:48,959
Speaker 10: I'll totally I'll do it. Don't worry about it. I'll

2549
02:27:49,120 --> 02:27:53,199
Speaker 10: record the tip dance segment music.

2550
02:27:53,240 --> 02:27:55,680
Speaker 1: All right, give us the intro like interrupt. We interrupt

2551
02:27:55,720 --> 02:27:57,039
Speaker 1: this for a Tip dance break.

2552
02:28:00,480 --> 02:28:03,600
Speaker 10: We interrupt this for a Q Tip dance break.

2553
02:28:04,320 --> 02:28:17,199
Speaker 18: Dance this, I will always want way come on eftless

2554
02:28:18,600 --> 02:28:24,200
Speaker 18: wait dancing. It's a q Tip Brands dance break.

2555
02:28:24,280 --> 02:28:25,920
Speaker 3: Man away.

2556
02:28:28,360 --> 02:28:42,600
Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk about arguments in the group. See, actually,

2557
02:28:42,800 --> 02:28:44,800
Speaker 1: Midnight Marnas is so overwhelming.

2558
02:28:45,240 --> 02:28:47,760
Speaker 3: I don't know what to talk about it or how

2559
02:28:47,840 --> 02:28:51,560
Speaker 3: to praise it. Electric relaxation, Like, okay, let's get to

2560
02:28:51,600 --> 02:28:56,360
Speaker 3: the dark because there's a lot of a lot of dissecting.

2561
02:28:56,400 --> 02:28:59,720
Speaker 3: I want to do creative. Can I ask what popped

2562
02:28:59,720 --> 02:29:00,240
Speaker 3: in my head? Ahead?

2563
02:29:00,760 --> 02:29:02,240
Speaker 10: I don't know if it's ever going to come back again,

2564
02:29:02,280 --> 02:29:03,280
Speaker 10: so I have to take advantage of it.

2565
02:29:03,480 --> 02:29:03,720
Speaker 3: Okay.

2566
02:29:06,240 --> 02:29:10,000
Speaker 10: The part on the album where you are you and Rich?

2567
02:29:11,200 --> 02:29:13,000
Speaker 10: And I think it's you rich and who is youll

2568
02:29:13,080 --> 02:29:14,640
Speaker 10: arguing on the.

2569
02:29:14,680 --> 02:29:18,440
Speaker 3: Phone that yes, that was very much real.

2570
02:29:18,840 --> 02:29:19,240
Speaker 10: What was that?

2571
02:29:19,400 --> 02:29:23,520
Speaker 3: Okay? So we were it's talking about the intro to rising,

2572
02:29:23,800 --> 02:29:25,200
Speaker 3: the introll, the Rising down?

2573
02:29:25,840 --> 02:29:29,360
Speaker 1: Should I played Have you heard ifah? If Liyah hasn't

2574
02:29:29,400 --> 02:29:30,960
Speaker 1: heard it, then that means it doesn't exist.

2575
02:29:31,320 --> 02:29:33,480
Speaker 3: You know I heard it, you didn't. I want to

2576
02:29:33,520 --> 02:29:36,720
Speaker 3: hear it. I feel like if if a root song

2577
02:29:37,080 --> 02:29:41,040
Speaker 3: falls in the forest and doesn't hear it. It never

2578
02:29:41,160 --> 02:29:43,760
Speaker 3: made a sound. I'm good to game there, I am good.

2579
02:29:43,959 --> 02:29:51,760
Speaker 3: It's like it's not game. Just the album.

2580
02:29:56,680 --> 02:29:58,280
Speaker 13: Oh yeah, that that was a good one too. Had

2581
02:29:58,320 --> 02:30:00,199
Speaker 13: the Go Go drawn with Christte Michelle.

2582
02:29:59,840 --> 02:30:03,440
Speaker 3: And anyway anyway, all right, so this is what Tip

2583
02:30:03,640 --> 02:30:04,360
Speaker 3: is asking about.

2584
02:30:04,440 --> 02:30:05,879
Speaker 4: Like this, I mean that ship wasn't fun.

2585
02:30:06,160 --> 02:30:09,240
Speaker 3: That it was not It wasn't no trip. It was

2586
02:30:09,640 --> 02:30:10,320
Speaker 3: hard working ship.

2587
02:30:10,360 --> 02:30:10,840
Speaker 15: You know what I'm saying.

2588
02:30:11,040 --> 02:30:13,200
Speaker 3: And I feel like I'm busting that. It breaks my

2589
02:30:13,280 --> 02:30:17,160
Speaker 3: heart when I hit us further and not getting gatic.

2590
02:30:17,200 --> 02:30:20,080
Speaker 1: Well if you God, really that fucking unhappening only got

2591
02:30:20,080 --> 02:30:22,000
Speaker 1: problems with me and made me are to go somewhere

2592
02:30:22,840 --> 02:30:24,960
Speaker 1: how fucked up like truly is is what he was

2593
02:30:25,000 --> 02:30:25,560
Speaker 1: really saying.

2594
02:30:25,600 --> 02:30:27,640
Speaker 10: That it don't get no better than this unless you

2595
02:30:27,680 --> 02:30:28,760
Speaker 10: got your own record label.

2596
02:30:28,800 --> 02:30:31,440
Speaker 3: That's basically a point I'm trying to get the problem.

2597
02:30:31,920 --> 02:30:33,720
Speaker 4: I mean, And when you got that phone call from

2598
02:30:33,760 --> 02:30:36,720
Speaker 4: you and know where it came from, and energy like.

2599
02:30:36,800 --> 02:30:40,440
Speaker 1: The bandage can't handle the you tell me some screaming

2600
02:30:40,520 --> 02:30:42,640
Speaker 1: at me, I'm kind where the energy needs to go

2601
02:30:42,959 --> 02:30:48,720
Speaker 1: A mirror, mirror, please tell him it doesn't matter.

2602
02:30:50,360 --> 02:30:56,680
Speaker 3: All the way. This is what I'm talking about. What anyway,

2603
02:31:03,680 --> 02:31:05,360
Speaker 3: it sounds like that conversation we had a couple of

2604
02:31:05,360 --> 02:31:05,720
Speaker 3: weeks ago.

2605
02:31:09,920 --> 02:31:10,960
Speaker 10: That's Rich right there, right.

2606
02:31:11,280 --> 02:31:12,440
Speaker 3: That is niggas.

2607
02:31:12,480 --> 02:31:17,760
Speaker 10: They know that that nigga Rich, don't matter what the

2608
02:31:17,840 --> 02:31:18,440
Speaker 10: nigga look like.

2609
02:31:20,760 --> 02:31:25,280
Speaker 3: Rich got a net soul like Ethan Rich. I p yeah, man,

2610
02:31:25,440 --> 02:31:28,240
Speaker 3: that is like he was Peter Grant.

2611
02:31:28,879 --> 02:31:32,800
Speaker 10: That motherfucker bloody. Somebody knows real quick.

2612
02:31:37,120 --> 02:31:38,760
Speaker 3: Rich will bloody you knows and you will thank him

2613
02:31:38,800 --> 02:31:39,480
Speaker 3: for it afterwards.

2614
02:31:40,560 --> 02:31:43,840
Speaker 10: I mean, but yeah, So what you're hearing is, so

2615
02:31:43,959 --> 02:31:45,480
Speaker 10: who was that talking at for that waster?

2616
02:31:46,480 --> 02:31:47,760
Speaker 3: That was okay?

2617
02:31:48,240 --> 02:31:52,520
Speaker 1: Uh a j Shin who is uh the stretched Armstrong

2618
02:31:52,600 --> 02:31:57,560
Speaker 1: and Bibido of Philadelphia who discovered us and with his

2619
02:31:57,840 --> 02:32:02,120
Speaker 1: accident money settlement money made a demo called Organics for

2620
02:32:02,200 --> 02:32:04,839
Speaker 1: the Roots and we somehow nuanced.

2621
02:32:04,480 --> 02:32:05,480
Speaker 3: That into a record deal.

2622
02:32:06,840 --> 02:32:15,200
Speaker 1: So this particular back for some pay. Next question, No,

2623
02:32:15,600 --> 02:32:18,320
Speaker 1: a bootleg recently came back. Like I was like, wait,

2624
02:32:18,360 --> 02:32:20,280
Speaker 1: where'd this album come from? It's like us live in

2625
02:32:20,360 --> 02:32:26,080
Speaker 1: London somewhere anyway. So the scenario is we are doing

2626
02:32:26,160 --> 02:32:31,360
Speaker 1: our first promo tour down South and this is where

2627
02:32:31,400 --> 02:32:35,480
Speaker 1: we're slowly realizing that this is going to be a

2628
02:32:35,760 --> 02:32:41,600
Speaker 1: long hard journey, and that long hard journey, you know,

2629
02:32:41,680 --> 02:32:45,680
Speaker 1: in our minds, we thought like, well, if we make

2630
02:32:45,760 --> 02:32:47,840
Speaker 1: what's good to Like, we didn't know what a formula level.

2631
02:32:48,040 --> 02:32:51,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know about a hook and pop atmosphere and

2632
02:32:51,080 --> 02:32:53,120
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and we didn't know that stuff. So

2633
02:32:53,320 --> 02:32:56,160
Speaker 1: all we knew was that we went to a nightclub

2634
02:32:56,440 --> 02:32:58,879
Speaker 1: in North Carolina. No fence from town.

2635
02:33:01,000 --> 02:33:03,440
Speaker 3: We went. We went to a nightclub in North Carolina.

2636
02:33:04,560 --> 02:33:10,640
Speaker 1: Uh And in hindsight, the DJ probably shouldn't have stopped

2637
02:33:10,640 --> 02:33:14,320
Speaker 1: playing warreng g immediately, Like it was one of those televisions.

2638
02:33:14,320 --> 02:33:17,880
Speaker 3: It was like it was like no, it was like yeah, no,

2639
02:33:17,959 --> 02:33:20,080
Speaker 3: no no. It was like a perfect example.

2640
02:33:20,240 --> 02:33:22,840
Speaker 11: It was like the five Heartbeats, this next group coming on,

2641
02:33:23,000 --> 02:33:27,680
Speaker 11: say they better than the five Folktops putting together we.

2642
02:33:27,720 --> 02:33:34,520
Speaker 3: Shall see goddamn. I'm just saying.

2643
02:33:34,640 --> 02:33:38,199
Speaker 1: I'm just saying as as a DJ who is DJ

2644
02:33:38,400 --> 02:33:41,760
Speaker 1: through the bad Boy era, like Puff is notorious, especially

2645
02:33:41,920 --> 02:33:44,640
Speaker 1: like let's go ten years back, you beat DJ in

2646
02:33:44,680 --> 02:33:48,840
Speaker 1: the club and then the bad Boy street team commandeer's.

2647
02:33:48,320 --> 02:33:52,640
Speaker 3: Your DJ booth with yo here play this now?

2648
02:33:53,720 --> 02:33:57,240
Speaker 1: Like and so this person obviously didn't have any nuance

2649
02:33:57,320 --> 02:34:00,560
Speaker 1: with the segue, so it's like a very popular own song.

2650
02:34:01,760 --> 02:34:05,520
Speaker 3: Suddenly he just takes it off and puts on a song.

2651
02:34:06,920 --> 02:34:09,440
Speaker 1: Maybe I should have put the kick drum on the

2652
02:34:09,520 --> 02:34:11,760
Speaker 1: one and the three so that the beat was more steady.

2653
02:34:12,320 --> 02:34:14,720
Speaker 1: That he just puts the source of static on. And

2654
02:34:15,480 --> 02:34:23,920
Speaker 1: I literally watched a dance floor. It was like, no,

2655
02:34:24,080 --> 02:34:27,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't even that. It wasn't even that it hurt

2656
02:34:27,640 --> 02:34:32,440
Speaker 1: them to dance too. They were just like that kick

2657
02:34:32,520 --> 02:34:33,640
Speaker 1: drummers a little disorienting.

2658
02:34:34,400 --> 02:34:34,920
Speaker 3: I didn't know.

2659
02:34:35,280 --> 02:34:37,560
Speaker 1: I meant for me, I was just taking the second

2660
02:34:37,600 --> 02:34:43,199
Speaker 1: half of substitution. I was taking the second half of substanution.

2661
02:34:43,320 --> 02:34:46,640
Speaker 1: I wanted to do off substitution, but because those guys

2662
02:34:46,680 --> 02:34:48,800
Speaker 1: were like, we'll get sued, we'll get sued. And I

2663
02:34:48,920 --> 02:34:50,320
Speaker 1: was like, all right, well I'll do the second half

2664
02:34:50,360 --> 02:34:53,040
Speaker 1: of substitution. And I flop them on it because I said, Yo,

2665
02:34:53,600 --> 02:34:56,880
Speaker 1: Dayla already did the second half of substitution on the

2666
02:34:57,000 --> 02:35:00,560
Speaker 1: last song on Blue Mind State, and and you know

2667
02:35:00,640 --> 02:35:03,080
Speaker 1: they're like, no, man, don't do substitution. We're gonna get sued.

2668
02:35:04,040 --> 02:35:06,520
Speaker 1: So I mean I saw him struggle with it. And

2669
02:35:06,760 --> 02:35:11,520
Speaker 1: then when they cleared the dance floor. It was like, oh,

2670
02:35:11,680 --> 02:35:14,800
Speaker 1: we're fucked. We are so fucked right now.

2671
02:35:15,440 --> 02:35:17,960
Speaker 3: And so just all that week, we go to in

2672
02:35:18,160 --> 02:35:19,080
Speaker 3: stores with just.

2673
02:35:19,200 --> 02:35:21,720
Speaker 1: Like three people there and those are like the employees

2674
02:35:22,360 --> 02:35:26,440
Speaker 1: we go to. We went to Florida somewhere and nobody cared.

2675
02:35:27,040 --> 02:35:30,280
Speaker 3: It was like a week of hell. And so we

2676
02:35:30,400 --> 02:35:34,400
Speaker 3: got on the phone. It was Wendy Goldstein, Joe Rindy

2677
02:35:34,560 --> 02:35:35,119
Speaker 3: was on that call.

2678
02:35:36,480 --> 02:35:41,160
Speaker 11: Yes, oh my god, and Tarik quiet, hell, yeah, what

2679
02:35:41,240 --> 02:35:42,959
Speaker 11: y'all got damn contracted in the shred of.

2680
02:35:43,040 --> 02:35:49,240
Speaker 1: Like right, so right over that muff, Tarik is fussing

2681
02:35:49,320 --> 02:35:53,360
Speaker 1: and cussing and like he laid into it, like you know,

2682
02:35:53,520 --> 02:35:55,720
Speaker 1: what the fuck, Like we're out here, the street team

2683
02:35:55,800 --> 02:35:56,720
Speaker 1: doesn't know who we are, and.

2684
02:35:59,160 --> 02:36:02,080
Speaker 3: Right, no, well that's okay.

2685
02:36:02,200 --> 02:36:07,280
Speaker 1: Yes, in the very beginning, Wendy called and cursed out

2686
02:36:07,320 --> 02:36:10,680
Speaker 1: Wendy gold Steam. Wendy then called Tarik like I just

2687
02:36:10,760 --> 02:36:13,520
Speaker 1: got cursed out by Tik, What the fuck? And then

2688
02:36:14,680 --> 02:36:18,600
Speaker 1: then Rich called Joe and me and Tariq was like, yo, like,

2689
02:36:19,640 --> 02:36:23,400
Speaker 1: y'all can't be spassing out at the A and R

2690
02:36:23,560 --> 02:36:26,480
Speaker 1: like that, and you know, you can't be spassing out

2691
02:36:27,760 --> 02:36:31,320
Speaker 1: and Tarik would just like you know, it was just

2692
02:36:31,440 --> 02:36:35,200
Speaker 1: basically we had all these expectations to do well.

2693
02:36:35,400 --> 02:36:36,800
Speaker 3: We thought is a.

2694
02:36:36,800 --> 02:36:40,800
Speaker 10: Wild boy too? Yes, so it must have been crazy.

2695
02:36:40,879 --> 02:36:44,120
Speaker 10: Like I was listening to that ship when it first

2696
02:36:44,160 --> 02:36:48,879
Speaker 10: came out, I was like, I felt, you know, the group.

2697
02:36:48,760 --> 02:36:54,800
Speaker 3: Dynamic through anything. Yes, every group. This is why like groups.

2698
02:36:55,040 --> 02:36:56,920
Speaker 6: One thing I can ask, did you guys just take

2699
02:36:57,000 --> 02:36:58,720
Speaker 6: record every conversation you guys on the phone?

2700
02:36:59,800 --> 02:37:02,400
Speaker 3: You tape that right? Did you like that? Oh? I

2701
02:37:02,520 --> 02:37:05,800
Speaker 3: was too? Okay. This is the part that I'm leaving out.

2702
02:37:06,520 --> 02:37:13,440
Speaker 3: Was that I still had a bunk bed. Yeah, exactly.

2703
02:37:16,160 --> 02:37:17,920
Speaker 3: Here's the thing I was.

2704
02:37:18,320 --> 02:37:18,640
Speaker 10: I had.

2705
02:37:18,959 --> 02:37:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm still in my childhood home as a teaching So

2706
02:37:24,160 --> 02:37:29,560
Speaker 1: because I was on the top bunk, the message already

2707
02:37:29,680 --> 02:37:32,640
Speaker 1: went to machine a mirror. I know you're there, pick

2708
02:37:32,720 --> 02:37:34,880
Speaker 1: up the phone, you know, like old school answer machines.

2709
02:37:35,160 --> 02:37:38,520
Speaker 3: Machine recorded it, right, So then you know, on on

2710
02:37:38,640 --> 02:37:41,800
Speaker 3: the top bunk region and didn't.

2711
02:37:41,879 --> 02:37:43,879
Speaker 1: I was too lazy to get off off the bed

2712
02:37:43,920 --> 02:37:46,200
Speaker 1: to turn the machine off, right, So I just let

2713
02:37:46,240 --> 02:37:47,280
Speaker 1: it go and stay.

2714
02:37:47,440 --> 02:37:49,879
Speaker 3: But then, you know, so why was.

2715
02:37:49,879 --> 02:37:51,840
Speaker 10: He calling out your name like AMA, talk to them

2716
02:37:51,879 --> 02:37:54,200
Speaker 10: and tell them well, because it.

2717
02:37:54,400 --> 02:37:58,280
Speaker 1: Was Rich was saying, Amir, will you tell them these

2718
02:37:58,280 --> 02:37:59,480
Speaker 1: people think that they're talking to me.

2719
02:37:59,680 --> 02:38:02,160
Speaker 3: No, he was like, Amir, will you tell them what

2720
02:38:02,360 --> 02:38:03,080
Speaker 3: happened on the road.

2721
02:38:03,160 --> 02:38:06,200
Speaker 1: Basically, it was kind of the two managers arguing with

2722
02:38:06,320 --> 02:38:09,920
Speaker 1: each other, whereas Joe aj Shin was like, yo, don't

2723
02:38:10,040 --> 02:38:13,440
Speaker 1: mess up our good thing at Geffen, and Rich was

2724
02:38:13,480 --> 02:38:16,120
Speaker 1: sort of on me and Serika's side, like shits fucked

2725
02:38:16,200 --> 02:38:16,840
Speaker 1: up out here.

2726
02:38:17,080 --> 02:38:19,879
Speaker 3: And we were broke, and when you're broke, you argue.

2727
02:38:20,120 --> 02:38:24,080
Speaker 1: So that's there was a lot of that going on,

2728
02:38:24,280 --> 02:38:28,920
Speaker 1: but surprisingly we stayed together now twenty five plus years.

2729
02:38:29,600 --> 02:38:30,760
Speaker 10: We'll get a sound effect for that.

2730
02:38:31,000 --> 02:38:36,280
Speaker 3: The key to that, like a.

2731
02:38:38,920 --> 02:38:41,600
Speaker 1: Well, this is what I want to know, Like why

2732
02:38:41,640 --> 02:38:43,959
Speaker 1: didn't y'all just not that you guys were road dogs

2733
02:38:44,000 --> 02:38:46,760
Speaker 1: as far as like always on a tour bus, but

2734
02:38:48,400 --> 02:38:51,280
Speaker 1: we knew from the gate that two tour buses would

2735
02:38:51,320 --> 02:38:55,720
Speaker 1: save this group. And you know, I joke about the

2736
02:38:55,760 --> 02:39:02,520
Speaker 1: whole Gryffin door and Slytherin thing, but you know, in hindsight,

2737
02:39:02,680 --> 02:39:06,000
Speaker 1: could a lot of the tension then avoided.

2738
02:39:05,720 --> 02:39:06,879
Speaker 10: If we had two tour buses?

2739
02:39:08,040 --> 02:39:13,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was just like doing all a

2740
02:39:13,560 --> 02:39:16,080
Speaker 3: lot of pay were y'all on the same bus, so.

2741
02:39:16,160 --> 02:39:18,480
Speaker 10: You gotta remember and it's probably like y'all too, like

2742
02:39:18,600 --> 02:39:21,920
Speaker 10: we grew up together, you know what I'm saying, So

2743
02:39:22,920 --> 02:39:27,760
Speaker 10: you getting separate buses to me, Yeah, I've seen a

2744
02:39:27,840 --> 02:39:31,400
Speaker 10: lot of rock and rollers say that and networks but that,

2745
02:39:31,520 --> 02:39:35,000
Speaker 10: and that's very well. But our ship was deep, you know,

2746
02:39:35,080 --> 02:39:39,680
Speaker 10: part of the pun, deep rooted. That had nothing to

2747
02:39:39,840 --> 02:39:43,439
Speaker 10: do with any sort of physical separation.

2748
02:39:43,600 --> 02:39:47,160
Speaker 3: It was more, I mean.

2749
02:39:50,400 --> 02:39:54,560
Speaker 10: Like it's it was really like we were cool. Then

2750
02:39:54,600 --> 02:39:58,760
Speaker 10: you get on and then people start coming around that

2751
02:39:58,879 --> 02:40:01,520
Speaker 10: you've never seen before. They start working their way into

2752
02:40:01,680 --> 02:40:07,160
Speaker 10: your equation, and then this starts to become separate groups

2753
02:40:08,080 --> 02:40:11,480
Speaker 10: like yeah, yeah, a little factions, and you know how

2754
02:40:11,520 --> 02:40:16,360
Speaker 10: that ship is. There's the faction. Yeah yeah, there's this faction,

2755
02:40:16,560 --> 02:40:20,960
Speaker 10: this faction, and then that coupled with the fact that

2756
02:40:21,040 --> 02:40:26,520
Speaker 10: you're still young, you are still you know, fighting for

2757
02:40:27,600 --> 02:40:30,960
Speaker 10: your own terrain as an individual and all that ship,

2758
02:40:31,640 --> 02:40:34,480
Speaker 10: and then the new people are coming in like yeah, man,

2759
02:40:34,560 --> 02:40:40,480
Speaker 10: you can pay for your own terrain, fight for my

2760
02:40:40,560 --> 02:40:44,920
Speaker 10: own train like that type ship.

2761
02:40:45,040 --> 02:40:48,760
Speaker 1: I feel you, and especially for you, because there's nothing

2762
02:40:48,879 --> 02:40:51,560
Speaker 1: more awkward when you get singled out, and.

2763
02:40:51,800 --> 02:40:54,960
Speaker 10: That's why I situation said from the beginning, well, this

2764
02:40:55,080 --> 02:40:57,200
Speaker 10: is the way I tribe never put my face on

2765
02:40:57,280 --> 02:40:57,600
Speaker 10: the cover.

2766
02:40:57,800 --> 02:41:00,200
Speaker 11: And I wanted to ask you that man like me,

2767
02:41:00,320 --> 02:41:02,480
Speaker 11: you always seem to be and let me know if

2768
02:41:02,520 --> 02:41:04,480
Speaker 11: if I was reading it wrong, you always seem to

2769
02:41:04,520 --> 02:41:06,400
Speaker 11: be like a kind of reluctant.

2770
02:41:06,080 --> 02:41:07,720
Speaker 3: Very reluctant, you know what I mean, Like you never

2771
02:41:08,000 --> 02:41:09,000
Speaker 3: I mean, you had the talent.

2772
02:41:09,120 --> 02:41:09,320
Speaker 14: I mean.

2773
02:41:09,400 --> 02:41:16,680
Speaker 1: But the thing, the thing though, is at least there

2774
02:41:16,800 --> 02:41:24,240
Speaker 1: is sometimes at least there's justifiable understanding for the lead

2775
02:41:24,640 --> 02:41:27,720
Speaker 1: voice to be the center of attention.

2776
02:41:28,879 --> 02:41:34,280
Speaker 3: It's twelve more times awkward when the leader is the.

2777
02:41:34,360 --> 02:41:38,200
Speaker 1: Guy that's way in the back, Yeah, the jont Yeah yeah,

2778
02:41:38,240 --> 02:41:40,800
Speaker 1: it's like, oh Jesus, like I don't want this attention.

2779
02:41:41,200 --> 02:41:46,440
Speaker 3: And it's but thank you, that's what she said.

2780
02:41:49,879 --> 02:41:54,200
Speaker 1: No, but it's it's it's like no one understands the

2781
02:41:54,320 --> 02:41:57,480
Speaker 1: group dynamic more and the ship that goes on with groups,

2782
02:41:58,320 --> 02:42:02,800
Speaker 1: especially in your situation and in your situation more than me.

2783
02:42:03,120 --> 02:42:06,320
Speaker 3: Like it's it's just I get it.

2784
02:42:07,480 --> 02:42:13,000
Speaker 1: I think at least me and tw week situation, the

2785
02:42:13,120 --> 02:42:19,840
Speaker 1: greater good of the group is probably I mean, we at.

2786
02:42:19,800 --> 02:42:22,000
Speaker 3: Least had that understanding ironclad.

2787
02:42:22,879 --> 02:42:26,680
Speaker 1: You know, we've only had one fistfight in our twenty

2788
02:42:26,760 --> 02:42:30,520
Speaker 1: five years, and that was like maybe a two weeks

2789
02:42:30,560 --> 02:42:32,160
Speaker 1: after the distortion of static video.

2790
02:42:33,600 --> 02:42:36,520
Speaker 3: It's never I mean, I'm too bick Like I sat

2791
02:42:36,560 --> 02:42:45,440
Speaker 3: on top of him, like it's like he threw a chair.

2792
02:42:45,560 --> 02:42:48,800
Speaker 1: We wrestled in the in the office, and then like,

2793
02:42:52,480 --> 02:42:55,600
Speaker 1: well here's this that rich This is the thing that

2794
02:42:55,760 --> 02:43:00,520
Speaker 1: riched later ad minute, like we like post post fights

2795
02:43:00,920 --> 02:43:02,680
Speaker 1: with anybody that you've ever been in a fist fight.

2796
02:43:02,720 --> 02:43:04,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've personally been in a fist fight.

2797
02:43:05,200 --> 02:43:09,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, even even the person that gets hit and

2798
02:43:09,920 --> 02:43:13,440
Speaker 1: the person that does the hitting, they both are equal pain,

2799
02:43:13,760 --> 02:43:18,080
Speaker 1: like you know. And but me and Tarik like didn't

2800
02:43:18,120 --> 02:43:20,400
Speaker 1: want to let each other know that we were so

2801
02:43:20,520 --> 02:43:23,199
Speaker 1: we were like limping in the hallway of our apartment.

2802
02:43:23,920 --> 02:43:26,039
Speaker 14: But when we see each other like I'm not hurt.

2803
02:43:30,680 --> 02:43:32,800
Speaker 14: Then like a month later we just laughed out loud

2804
02:43:32,800 --> 02:43:34,840
Speaker 14: about it like yeah, I wasn't I wasn't hurt either.

2805
02:43:35,640 --> 02:43:43,840
Speaker 14: I'm sorry man, you know. So it's it's it's I

2806
02:43:45,200 --> 02:43:50,880
Speaker 14: get that ship. So obviously tip your career, I feel

2807
02:43:51,160 --> 02:43:54,920
Speaker 14: is keep talking, Oh.

2808
02:43:57,200 --> 02:44:01,480
Speaker 1: So fight, Oh yeah, this that was do it t

2809
02:44:02,080 --> 02:44:08,360
Speaker 1: right Tip fight right here. So Tip, obviously your your

2810
02:44:08,520 --> 02:44:09,520
Speaker 1: your story is.

2811
02:44:09,760 --> 02:44:12,959
Speaker 3: Way more expansive. You're going to have to come back

2812
02:44:13,200 --> 02:44:18,840
Speaker 3: later in the year in the future. Ull speaking about.

2813
02:44:20,240 --> 02:44:20,959
Speaker 10: Is this part one?

2814
02:44:21,200 --> 02:44:23,320
Speaker 3: Yes? This is part one?

2815
02:44:24,440 --> 02:44:26,480
Speaker 11: What did you learn from I learned that Q Tip

2816
02:44:26,640 --> 02:44:29,520
Speaker 11: is still one of the biggest music fans ever to

2817
02:44:29,640 --> 02:44:33,680
Speaker 11: see you drop records and him still be dancing to it,

2818
02:44:33,879 --> 02:44:36,160
Speaker 11: and you know, for you to drop a record like

2819
02:44:36,200 --> 02:44:39,640
Speaker 11: Ghosts and him to reminisce on it and it takes

2820
02:44:39,720 --> 02:44:42,240
Speaker 11: him right back to the last quarter, you know what

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Speaker 11: I mean.

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Speaker 3: That's just a beautiful thing to see.

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Speaker 11: It's a lot of brothers that you know, have been

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02:44:45,400 --> 02:44:47,360
Speaker 11: in the game, have been in the game as long

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Speaker 11: as you have, you know what I'm saying, but have

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02:44:49,560 --> 02:44:52,800
Speaker 11: become somewhat jaded and have lost that passion Like.

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Speaker 10: How could how could you? Maybe it's just me being naive,

2828
02:44:57,200 --> 02:45:00,560
Speaker 10: but how could you not have to excitement for music?

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Speaker 1: It can happen because some people they they did take

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02:45:05,440 --> 02:45:08,240
Speaker 1: it personally. So it's like if you have musical dreams

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02:45:08,360 --> 02:45:11,920
Speaker 1: and okay, dream for me a dream, what happens to

2832
02:45:12,040 --> 02:45:12,840
Speaker 1: a loan deferred?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean? It's like it's that kind

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02:45:16,920 --> 02:45:17,160
Speaker 3: of ship.

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Speaker 11: So like if your if your ship gets deferred, then

2836
02:45:19,879 --> 02:45:22,400
Speaker 11: all of a sudden, it's like sour grade.

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Speaker 10: You know, I can't even understand that, like seriously, like

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02:45:25,640 --> 02:45:28,440
Speaker 10: I can't even I don't have a comprehension of that.

2839
02:45:28,640 --> 02:45:31,480
Speaker 10: Like I love music so much, Like it's so much

2840
02:45:31,560 --> 02:45:34,240
Speaker 10: a part of of everything, even when if I'm in

2841
02:45:34,280 --> 02:45:37,840
Speaker 10: a fucked up most said whatever, like there's music to accompany,

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02:45:38,640 --> 02:45:44,680
Speaker 10: Like when Fife passed, you know, for you know, days after,

2843
02:45:44,879 --> 02:45:46,760
Speaker 10: you know, I'd have to put together some I'd have

2844
02:45:46,840 --> 02:45:48,440
Speaker 10: to hear some music to get me up.

2845
02:45:48,560 --> 02:45:50,720
Speaker 3: To what was your stuff?

2846
02:45:51,040 --> 02:45:55,560
Speaker 10: I mean you go to Stevie or Herbie or you

2847
02:45:55,680 --> 02:46:03,160
Speaker 10: know e w Web for you know, go to just

2848
02:46:03,320 --> 02:46:07,760
Speaker 10: keep me up, keep me optimistic, keep me you know going,

2849
02:46:08,000 --> 02:46:10,359
Speaker 10: And you know, I don't know, I guess.

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02:46:10,200 --> 02:46:14,520
Speaker 11: I sound corny, Yeah, Verry Human, did you have any

2851
02:46:14,560 --> 02:46:17,040
Speaker 11: records that you played for like the other stuff, just

2852
02:46:17,120 --> 02:46:19,280
Speaker 11: to really get into the sadness of the moment, Like

2853
02:46:19,360 --> 02:46:21,280
Speaker 11: did you have any of those joints?

2854
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Speaker 10: No? But it's funny because you know how it is,

2855
02:46:25,400 --> 02:46:31,720
Speaker 10: like you you always find something about whatever it is

2856
02:46:31,800 --> 02:46:35,080
Speaker 10: that makes you sad. It's just very relative a poignant

2857
02:46:35,160 --> 02:46:38,800
Speaker 10: to that moment, you know. For a horrible example, like

2858
02:46:38,879 --> 02:46:41,680
Speaker 10: if you have a breakup with the girl and every

2859
02:46:41,760 --> 02:46:46,000
Speaker 10: song you hear is like relatable to the breakup or whatever, you.

2860
02:46:46,040 --> 02:46:46,400
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

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Speaker 10: So even in those joyous songs, there would be points

2862
02:46:50,720 --> 02:46:54,320
Speaker 10: that would take you here that you know, tear you up,

2863
02:46:54,560 --> 02:46:57,680
Speaker 10: you know what I mean. So I just can't even

2864
02:46:57,760 --> 02:47:00,600
Speaker 10: fathom somebody not appreciate loving music.

2865
02:47:01,680 --> 02:47:04,760
Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna actually take the liberty to say that

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02:47:05,000 --> 02:47:08,400
Speaker 1: I think we all learned something really important, and.

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Speaker 3: That's the importance of a good goddamn dance breaking ladies

2868
02:47:14,480 --> 02:47:15,000
Speaker 3: and gentlemen.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I've taken over the awesome backswell no, we We're

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02:47:21,080 --> 02:47:24,680
Speaker 1: going to dance break right now. This is the best

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02:47:24,760 --> 02:47:26,520
Speaker 1: farm beat song of nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 3: Three, according to Camal Forrie.

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02:47:28,760 --> 02:47:32,959
Speaker 1: Don't walk Away by jay On behalf of Fran tikeoloas

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02:47:33,720 --> 02:47:38,320
Speaker 1: Boss Bill Sugar Steve Unpaid Bill, Yeah man, yay yo,

2875
02:47:40,520 --> 02:47:45,600
Speaker 1: Margaret and you tip this Quest Loves signing off West

2876
02:47:45,680 --> 02:47:46,320
Speaker 1: Love Supreme.

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02:47:47,400 --> 02:47:47,720
Speaker 3: Got you.

2878
02:47:50,840 --> 02:47:55,000
Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme. It's a production Iheartrating. This classic episode

2879
02:47:55,160 --> 02:47:57,759
Speaker 1: was produced by the team at Pandora.

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02:48:00,000 --> 02:48:00,080
Speaker 10: One.

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02:48:04,680 --> 02:48:06,360
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