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Speaker 1: Greenings and welcome to the Fantasy Live NFL podcast. Jason

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Speaker 1: Smith alongside Adam Rank Marcus Grant filling in for the

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Speaker 1: birthday celebrating Michael Fabiano, who was turning forty this weekend.

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Speaker 1: And Marcus, you think he looks rather old for forty.

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Speaker 1: I think he Michael Fabiano. I mean, I love the guy,

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Speaker 1: but he's he's forty going on like fifty five. He's

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Speaker 1: like a matlock watcher. He is a matlock. I think

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Speaker 1: he does because he's still watches Cheers DVDs like that.

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Speaker 1: He's still stuck in the vhs or something. I think

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Speaker 1: one of the biggest upsets is that Fabiano is just forty.

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Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be a big revelation to people.

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Speaker 1: But let's talk about Chris Gibbons. I was right, you

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Speaker 1: were I was right about Chris. This is fantasy overreaction time, right,

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Speaker 1: This is where I base my fantasy existence on one

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Speaker 1: on one quarter of prese. Actually there's the second quarter

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Speaker 1: Chris gives. You should have seen the game. Sam Bradford

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Speaker 1: through a bomb to him. He caught it and then

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Speaker 1: he caught a touchdown later. It was fantastic. Now I'm

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Speaker 1: like seeing this is it, this is this is fantasy

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Speaker 1: is taken care of by that logic. Chris Johnson should

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Speaker 1: be the second overall picking he's got to be the first. Now, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: don't forget, you know, don't forget. Look, hey, Bernard Pierce

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Speaker 1: had a big game too. You gotta take him over

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Speaker 1: with gott to be. So make sure that when you're

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Speaker 1: watching the preseason games, be it in week one, week two,

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Speaker 1: whenever you're listening to this, use the hashtag fantasy overreactions.

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Speaker 1: It's a fun game we're playing. All right, Let's start

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Speaker 1: with the rams as we look back at some of

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Speaker 1: the big stories from week one in in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: And you know you mentioned Chris gives Sam Bradford pretty

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Speaker 1: good game and obviously limited, but he's someone who has

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Speaker 1: come on late at seasons the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: Is this finally the year that Sam Bradford can start out.

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Speaker 1: He's got some weapons that he can be Fantasy relevant.

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Speaker 1: It seems like he should have done it already, be

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Speaker 1: because we've seen a large number of quarterbacks enter the

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Speaker 1: league just recently and immediately have success. And I would

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Speaker 1: I would say a guy like Russell Wilson wasn't blessed

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Speaker 1: with a lot of offensive options last year, still still

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Speaker 1: managed to do pretty well fantasy wise. The thing is

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Speaker 1: with a guy like him is that there's so much

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Speaker 1: depth at the quarterback position you're looking at. If you

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Speaker 1: looked at the fantasy rankings right now in NFL dot Com,

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Speaker 1: I think Matthew Stafford is at number twelve. That's that's

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Speaker 1: a backup quarterback in a ten team league. I think

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Speaker 1: either Matt Ryan or Tony Romo. However, you guys have

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Speaker 1: your rankings. I I'm not sure I agree with all

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Speaker 1: of you guys. But you assume I didn't watch the game.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Oh I didn't know I was. I was

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Speaker 1: on Twitter last night. Haven't or excuse me. We're taping

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Speaker 1: this on Friday, but I was on Twitter Thursday night

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Speaker 1: having fun. I didn't see you. I'm looking around. I

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Speaker 1: saw Marcus. I saw even Fabiano on his vacation in

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas doing whatever he's doing. He's at vacation, but

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Speaker 1: he's probably sitting in his hotel room just heaving, okay,

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Speaker 1: at the Cosmo. But I'm sitting here tweeting about a game,

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Speaker 1: or he's watching Alfred Hitchcock Presents, which he said he

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Speaker 1: started watching. That is so true. People, the people who

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Speaker 1: live below HI must think did a nine year old

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Speaker 1: above me? It's gotta But I just think there's too

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Speaker 1: much depth at the position to ever consider Bradford as

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Speaker 1: a number one quarterback. But yeah, when you're rolling the

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Speaker 1: or bye week replacement, why not. I he's in a

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Speaker 1: He's in a growing list of mid card guys who

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Speaker 1: are there. I mean, I say this is the year

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Speaker 1: as a fantasy option. I mean, you know, he's finally

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Speaker 1: consistency from a coaching standpoint. They finally put some weapons

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Speaker 1: around him that everybody is raving about. Tavon Austin and obviously,

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Speaker 1: as we mentioned, I mean, Chris Gibbins is the guy

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Speaker 1: that you got a target in every draft now rights.

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Speaker 1: But if it doesn't happen for Sam Bradford this year,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it's ever gonna happen. And I

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Speaker 1: think fairly or unfairly, he has the burden of expectation

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Speaker 1: the Birds and Seahawks, aren't. You know that seahawk is

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Speaker 1: thought it was like an urn kind of and urn. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: He's the bird expert. I talked to girls in high school.

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Speaker 1: Did they talk back? Dal richards and Isaiah Pete is

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Speaker 1: to continue on the rams here. This is one of

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Speaker 1: the more fascinating backfield situations. Jeff Fisher said earlier in

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Speaker 1: the week he expects Richardson to win the job. Kind

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Speaker 1: of had equal work in their preseason opener. Marcus, how

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Speaker 1: do you see the shaking out? I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: know why people have been surprised about this Richardson thing.

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Speaker 1: you know, I think he's a guy that you take

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Speaker 1: I called him zac Efron on NFL. I am, I

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Speaker 1: I don't mean to interrupt the fantasy talk. Draft Darryl

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Speaker 1: don't really think it's going to be an option. But

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Speaker 1: let me say this, if you would have told me

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Speaker 1: a year ago that I was going and I'm a

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Speaker 1: Time Warner subscriber, if you would have told me a

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Speaker 1: my Chargers and Seahawks. That I would have said, that's

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Speaker 1: that's the most insane thing I've ever heard in my life.

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly what happened on Thursday night. I'm with you, guys.

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Speaker 1: You look at the division of work of labor last

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Speaker 1: Pete barely dented the statueet. I can't think that suddenly,

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Speaker 1: I've I think it's to be Richardson's job. You mentioned

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Speaker 1: Foster Adrian, It's all about Chris Johnson. Very good, Right,

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Speaker 1: numbers never lie now in disputat. You can't go against.

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Speaker 1: How are you going to argue against the number? You can't.

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Speaker 1: Nothing I said was in correct. No, if you go

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Speaker 1: if you only count his touchdown runs, he's averaging a

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Speaker 1: don't know i'd want to do that. But but Chris

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Speaker 1: john But Chris Johnson, I was. I was just looking

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if we've updated yours. Marcus has

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Speaker 1: Are you moving Bernard up or you're moving Ben Jarvis

427
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Speaker 1: green Ellis down? What's your bigger move this week? I

428
00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,280
Speaker 1: already had Ben Jarvis green Ellis down around thirty and

429
00:18:56,320 --> 00:18:58,960
Speaker 1: Giovanni will probably move up a little bit. But Marcus

430
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,720
Speaker 1: is saying is very apt and and it trips up

431
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Speaker 1: a lot of fantasy enthusiasts when they're going through their

432
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Speaker 1: their draft prep and everything. Let's say that Ben Jarvis

433
00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,880
Speaker 1: green Ellis is going to get more attempts from as

434
00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,720
Speaker 1: a runner like that, he's gonna get more carries that way.

435
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,320
Speaker 1: But when you when when Giovanni is lined up in

436
00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,680
Speaker 1: different parts of the field, that, okay, ben Jarvis green

437
00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,920
Speaker 1: Ellis is probably gonna be good for about fifty eight

438
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,880
Speaker 1: rushing yards and that's it. And while Giovanni might only

439
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:30,000
Speaker 1: get thirty rushing yards, he's gonna get like thirty passing

440
00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,760
Speaker 1: yards or receiving yards. I should say, probably have some

441
00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,080
Speaker 1: some tries in the end zone too. So you've got

442
00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,760
Speaker 1: to realize that both those things. The running back position

443
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,760
Speaker 1: gets a little bit skewed now because people just focus

444
00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,159
Speaker 1: on the rushing yards, and you gotta look at at

445
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,920
Speaker 1: everything that these guys are doing. Guys like Shane Vereen.

446
00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,159
Speaker 1: The Patriots don't have a lot of options at receiver,

447
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,000
Speaker 1: so Shane Vereen is gonna have to line up all

448
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,679
Speaker 1: over the field. They're gonna find ways to get the

449
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,080
Speaker 1: ball into his hands, and he's going to have a

450
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Speaker 1: good year because he's gonna be able to combine the

451
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Speaker 1: rushing and the receiving yards. If you look at like

452
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,040
Speaker 1: Danny Woodhead last year, he was a top twenty five

453
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Speaker 1: running back, but you wouldn't think of it because he

454
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 1: didn't run the ball a ton and because Stephen Ridley

455
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:10,960
Speaker 1: was running the ball all the time. But Woodhead was

456
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Speaker 1: getting all those all purpose yards that it averaged out

457
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Speaker 1: to making him a pretty effective fantasy running back. I

458
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,160
Speaker 1: think you know that as a number one running back,

459
00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 1: but still as a guy you could count on it

460
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Speaker 1: at the end of the year. So I think Giovanni

461
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Speaker 1: Bernard's gonna be a guy just like that. And I

462
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,080
Speaker 1: like the fact that you keep calling him Giovanni because

463
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,919
Speaker 1: whenever every someone just says the word Giovanni, I go

464
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Speaker 1: back to the jerky boys that Giovanni Musacha. I know

465
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,840
Speaker 1: at some point I'm gonna call him Giovanni Musacha on

466
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Speaker 1: the show this year. It's gonna happen. He's got a

467
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,879
Speaker 1: cool first name. Why shouldn't you call him exactly? I

468
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,800
Speaker 1: want to reward his parents for picking out an awesome

469
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Speaker 1: for If you get points, you are you in a

470
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Speaker 1: fantasy league. We can get points for an awesome first name. No,

471
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Speaker 1: I quit that one. There was a problem with a commissioner.

472
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Speaker 1: He uh we had no, no, no, this was this

473
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Speaker 1: was a different guy we had. You know, we had

474
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a difference because I wanted to

475
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Speaker 1: get double points for Ben Jarvis because I felt it,

476
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,480
Speaker 1: even though there wasn't a proper hyphen, I still figured

477
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Speaker 1: like that should be a double because it's because the

478
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Speaker 1: J is capital. I mean, I would think that in

479
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,720
Speaker 1: that league, the brickshaw Ferguson would would be he was

480
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 1: he was a keeper. You could never get ahold of that,

481
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,679
Speaker 1: and it was you know, but that's fine. You know,

482
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,199
Speaker 1: That's why I like keeper leagues and everything. All right,

483
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 1: let's let's go to some running backs here. A couple

484
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Speaker 1: other big battles going on. We thought Denver's number one

485
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 1: job was going to be between Ronnie Hillman, Monty Ball.

486
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,439
Speaker 1: Hillman was running with the ones. No Sean Marino, as

487
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,159
Speaker 1: we saw in their openers, still in the mix. He

488
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 1: had a pretty nice night. How do you guys handicap

489
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 1: the Broncos running backs right now? I've been saying for

490
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks now, and then yesterday didn't their

491
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Speaker 1: Thursday didn't change my opinion. The Broncos running back situation

492
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Speaker 1: would be a lot like what we've seen out in

493
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Speaker 1: New Orleans the past few years. And you've got a

494
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Speaker 1: lot of guys in the mix, a lot of guys

495
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 1: getting touches. I mean, you're all gonna disappoint You've got

496
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Speaker 1: a lot of running backs. Essentially you have no running backs.

497
00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 1: I mean when you saw Sprowls and Pierre Thomas and

498
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 1: mark ingram In a little bit of Chris Ivory in

499
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 1: the past, I mean this this year for Denver, you're

500
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 1: gonna see Monte Ball and Ronnie Hillman and no Sean Moreno,

501
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: you know, all getting carries and it's just gonna be

502
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 1: running back roulette. You're never really gonna know which one

503
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,640
Speaker 1: is going to be the man on any given week.

504
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,639
Speaker 1: It's just gonna be a headache for Fantasy. So are

505
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 1: they undraftable for you? I wouldn't say they're undraftable, but

506
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go a long time before I touch any

507
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 1: of those guys. Yeah, And this there should not be

508
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 1: a surprise to anybody because John Fox, of course, was

509
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Speaker 1: the coach in Carolina where he was balancing Jonathan Stewart

510
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,240
Speaker 1: and D'Angelo Williams. He's just bringing that philosophy to Denver.

511
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,240
Speaker 1: And even though that is ground zero of shannahannigans, and

512
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: what that is is the the founder of the running

513
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Speaker 1: back by Committee, Mike Shanahan, the guy who frustrated fantasy

514
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Speaker 1: enthusiasts for years with his joggling of running backs. It's

515
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: now permeated the entire league. There's very few number one,

516
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: rock solid running backs. But when the Broncos took Monty Ball,

517
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Speaker 1: and all of us who watched him play at Wisconsin

518
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Speaker 1: were very hopeful that he was going to be the

519
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 1: one of those rare instances where a guy just comes

520
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: in carries the rock the whole time. He's gonna be

521
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: the number one guy, undisputed. And he hasn't been able

522
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Speaker 1: to unsee Ronnie Hillman as that top guy in Denver.

523
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: And we can anticipate Monty Ball eventually getting the job.

524
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Speaker 1: He hasn't done it. He's got to show that he's

525
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: better on pass protection. He's got to show some burst

526
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: because the Broncos want a big play running back. Ronnie

527
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: Hillman is a big play running back. Monty Ball might

528
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 1: not be that guy. So you really can't count on

529
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Speaker 1: either one of those guys or any of the three.

530
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Speaker 1: Since you brought up No Sean Moreno, you can't count

531
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Speaker 1: on any of those three to be an established number

532
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Speaker 1: one or a number two. They're gonna have to be

533
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: a flex guy. And if you're looking at upside Monty

534
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 1: Ball because he has that ability, you just hope. But

535
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Speaker 1: that's what you're basing it all on right now, So

536
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 1: there's no for that. There's no knowledge of it, there's

537
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: no declarations or anything. The guy can't even make the

538
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Speaker 1: top spot in the roster, So wait see what happens.

539
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Speaker 1: This is why this is a another indication why you

540
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: should wait to draft. You know, because by the third

541
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Speaker 1: week of the preseason, Monty Ball could have established himself

542
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: as the number one guy, or Ronnie Hillman could run

543
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: away with it, or No Sean Moreno could do it.

544
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 1: Somebody could get hurt. This is why you wait. Let

545
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 1: these things play out. It's one week, but Monty Ball

546
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 1: not starting this week shouldn't be. I don't think it's

547
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 1: the end of the world. I I get to the Broncos.

548
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: They want him to push for the job, want to

549
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: establish himself, want to motivate him. They just don't want

550
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 1: to annoy him. It's kind of opposite of what the

551
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,639
Speaker 1: Steelers are doing with Levan Bell. So don't give up

552
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: on him yet. But it's not right now. If if

553
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: the season started today, it's not a situation where you

554
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 1: can count on any of the three. All right, let's

555
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 1: go big game hunting for a couple of seconds here.

556
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Speaker 1: In any kind of league you go you're in, whether

557
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 1: it's a PPR league, standard league, ray Rice is one

558
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 1: of your top three or four running backs. But this

559
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 1: season you see Bernard Pierce could be cutting into his workload.

560
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,719
Speaker 1: There's not a guy I'm more nervous about. If I'm

561
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,440
Speaker 1: sitting there drafted at four or five, nine, ten, I'm

562
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: there than ray Rice because I is this the year

563
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: that they cut into his production? Is this the year

564
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: he slows down a little bit? He slowed down slightly,

565
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: but not nearly enough to take him to move him

566
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: down in your rankings and years past, But is this

567
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 1: the year that happens. Yeah, well, it's an interesting situation.

568
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 1: I have him as my number ten running back right

569
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: now for those reasons that you said, and you show it.

570
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,199
Speaker 1: At the end of last year, Bernard Pierce became a

571
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: bigger part of the offense as the playoffs rolled on

572
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 1: into the Super Bowl and everything like that. So there

573
00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: was already the threat of somebody eating into ray Rice's production.

574
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,199
Speaker 1: Now he is a good receiver out of the backfield.

575
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 1: The Ravens have had some injuries at tight end. They

576
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: lost an Kwan Boy they traded away and Kuan Bold,

577
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: and so is still the best tight end on the Ravens.

578
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: He might he might be. So ray Rice is gonna

579
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: get his attempts, he's gonna get his touches, he's gonna

580
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: get he's gonna get the ball, I think, was what

581
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say. And I was putting together. I

582
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: play in one keeper league and my running backs are

583
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Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, Ray Rice, and Freddie Morris. And that was

584
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 1: more humble bragg than any sort of information. Wasn't very

585
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: humble because I knew it was coming non humble Bragg,

586
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: but if you're in a keeper league, I would certainly

587
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: keep him, but I would start looking at guys like

588
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: Trent Richardson ahead of him, Marshawn Lynch, certainly, c J. Spiller.

589
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 1: C J. Spiller. The Bills have come out and said

590
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: that they want him to get two thousand yards. They've

591
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: set that as a goal for him. And if you

592
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: remember Doug Morona that Syracuse would you certainly do talk

593
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: about up Tepo offenses. They ran close to eighty plays

594
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: a game. Forty one of those were rushing attempts. They

595
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: want to get c J. Spiller the ball a lot.

596
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: So there's guys who I would take ahead of ray Rice,

597
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: but he's still a first round running back. To me,

598
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 1: if you have the tenth pick in the draft, Ray

599
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: Rice is gonna be your number one running back. So

600
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: I'll find guys around six or seven. Though, like Siege,

601
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: I'll take c J. Spiller ahead of him. There's other guys.

602
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: I'll say, you know what, I'm just more confident in. Yeah,

603
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: if you get down into the first round and ray

604
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: Rice is there, but earlier on, I'm it's almost like

605
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: I can't draft him until a certain point in the

606
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: first round. There is no doubt that the Bernard Pierce

607
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 1: fear is real in these fantasy streets. But you know,

608
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: if there's any kind of small saving grace to Ray

609
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: Rice's fantasy value, um, I mean, in a backhand, did

610
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 1: way all the injuries and the losses that the Ray

611
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: wins the suffering on offense might help bolster his fantasy

612
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 1: value just a little bit. I mean, you've got as

613
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,479
Speaker 1: your receivers right now Tory Smith and Jacoby Jones, who

614
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: are two guys who are potentially big play guys, but

615
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: in terms of being primary receivers, they're still a little

616
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: bit untested. You know. Now you don't have Dennis Pitta.

617
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: You don't know what's going to happen with that tight

618
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,959
Speaker 1: end position there. And the one thing that the coaching

619
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: staff knows works for them is a heavy dose of

620
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 1: Ray Rice. Now, certainly, what Bernard Pierce did last year,

621
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: it was a big boost to that offense. It certainly

622
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 1: helped them throughout the playoffs. But I think that you know,

623
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: you go with what got you there, and and Ray

624
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: Rice has gotten them to where they are, so I

625
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: think you know, he will certainly lose some touches to

626
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: Bernard Pierce. But I think, you know, like Adam said,

627
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: he's still a first round running back. He's still an

628
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 1: RB one in pretty much every format, and so I

629
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: think just because there are so many other holes right

630
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: now in that offense, I think that helps give Ray

631
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: Rice a little more value than he would have had otherwise.

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00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: All right, let's get some of the big news of

633
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: the week now that we really impacts your draft. Week

634
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: one of the preseason. Surely we start seeing some trends,

635
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: but this is some big news where you gotta start

636
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: doing some reshuffling. Jordy Nelson out for at least a month.

637
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: The Packers are hoping to get him back first couple

638
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: of weeks of the regular season. And now, Marcus, I

639
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: know you're upset because you're gonna have to say a

640
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: good thing about James Jones. But rank, how does this

641
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,239
Speaker 1: affect your drafting of first of Jordy Nelson. Yeah, I'm

642
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: gonna bypass Jordy Nelson. I mean, if he will, it's

643
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that's all relative, you know, if he's there

644
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: in the sixteenth round. But I'm figuring it where most

645
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 1: people are gonna target, where most people would be interested

646
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: in taking him. Is not a spot that I would

647
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: be interested in taking him. I'd rather go with guy

648
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: like Tex Cob. Of course, he's gonna be a guy

649
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: who could approach one receptions. The Packers have talked about

650
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: that during the preseason and during training camp. There hasn't

651
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: been a It's surprising to think there hasn't been a

652
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 1: Packers receiver who has had a hundred yards and I'm

653
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: thinking at least a decade, and it's it's been a

654
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: long stretch for them, which is crazy to think about

655
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: when you think of the prolific quarterbacks that they've had

656
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: over there over their history. But yeah, there's a lot

657
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: of guys I would rather go with. You're talking about

658
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,600
Speaker 1: Dwayne Dwayne Bow. Mike Wallace has had some problems, but

659
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: I would still rather go with him. Antonio Brown, Pierre Garson.

660
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: Pierre Garson, a guy that I know you like an

661
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: awful lot. There's better risks to me. Jordy Nelson had

662
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: one breakout season. It's not like he's an established veteran

663
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: who's done it for years, had an injury problem last

664
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: year and like, okay, he's just getting kind of tripped

665
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: up here. And there it's become a real concern because

666
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: now he's had as many injury concerns seasons as he

667
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: has had breakout season. So I'm gonna there's no reason

668
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: to really fire in on him. I mean, I understand

669
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: he's got Aaron Rodgers throwing to him. He's got a

670
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: noticeable name now because people know the name Jordy Nelson

671
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: because he plays on a high profile team. But there's

672
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: other values out there, so I would I would go

673
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: in a different direction. I'm always nervous of a guy

674
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: who's coming into the season hurt anyway, you know, is

675
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: this gonna be suddenly he's gonna be healthy and gonna

676
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: take off. So there's the questions right there. Randall Cobbs,

677
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: he's like, you know, he's like Miles Austin. He's linked

678
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: to Kim Kardashian too, So you're saying he's he's good

679
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: when he's there, he's just not always there. Yes, all right, Well,

680
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: Randall cobbs value is going to be unchanged because people

681
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 1: still think the world of him, and he's gonna be

682
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: your number one guy off the board. I know you've

683
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: been high on Randall cop for a couple of years, ranked.

684
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,959
Speaker 1: But now James Jones, Marcus Grant are official. You are

685
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: the official James Jones expert because you have said nothing

686
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: good about him. But here now with Jordy Nelson out,

687
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: what do you think about James Jones. Yes, his fantasy

688
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: value doesn't um it's you know, I think James Jones.

689
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: I honestly think James Jones was a decent number four

690
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: type fantasy receiver. My my whole caveat has been, he's

691
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: just not going to duplicate what he did last year.

692
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: The fourteen touchdowns was just way above anything he had

693
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: ever produced, and so my my caveat had been to

694
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: just be aware of that. But yeah, he's the guy

695
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: who who's certainly gonna get his catches, He's gonna get

696
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: his targ gets. You know, the Packers every single year

697
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: coming to the season saying we want to try to

698
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: have more balance on offense, we try to run the

699
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: football more, and then by week three they're like, hey, Aaron,

700
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: just throw it. You know. So I think that's kind

701
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: of gonna be the situation again. And as long as

702
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson isn't there, then James Jones moves up one

703
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 1: spot in the pecking order, and I think you're at

704
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: a point now where you do have to worry about

705
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 1: Nelson and his constant injuries. He missed four games last season.

706
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: We don't know how many games he might miss this season.

707
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: James Jones, you know, for better or worse, is always

708
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: on the field. That is certainly something that can't be overlooked.

709
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 1: And so Randall Cobb is going to be the number

710
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: one guy in that passing game, James James Jones, as

711
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: long as Jordy Nelson isn't there, it's gonna be the

712
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: number two, and that certainly gives him a better outlook

713
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: and a better fantasy value. Let me tell you something.

714
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: In every season that James Jones has started at least

715
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: sixteen games, he's had fourteen touchdowns. Hashtag misleadings. That should

716
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Speaker 1: be that mis hit me with your hashtag misleading stats.

717
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: I thought you're gonna say in every season he scored

718
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: at least fourteen touchdowns. He such if he looks back

719
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: from two thousand and ten, he's increased his touchdown totals

720
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: from five to seven to fourteen, which means that following

721
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: that trend, he'll have twenty three touchdowns this year. All right,

722
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, I want to see tagus leading stats every

723
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 1: day from you. I want to see the misleading stat

724
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: of the day. I'll tweet it out right now. This

725
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: will be out of challenging, this will be out of context.

726
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: But yes, if you're on Twitter on Friday morning and

727
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: you saw this, you're like, oh, that's what Rank was

728
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: talking about. It's kind of like kind of like one

729
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: of those TV shows where they tell it out of order,

730
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: like Breaking Bad. Oh, now I get what that was

731
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: all about to and see it. Okay, I hate that,

732
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: by the way, But that's not with slame Tarantino, because

733
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: after pulp Fiction came out, everybody decided, oh, let's do

734
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: the whole out of order thing. It'll be great, be awesome.

735
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: It's two days in the Valley like, no, not, but

736
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Speaker 1: it gave us short least their own Yes. Yeah, but

737
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: if it's a movie with chart lest the thrown and

738
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: it's still bad, how bad is a movie? Let's be honest.

739
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: Let's get to dinner. Rio Alexander, he has done for

740
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: the season a shame because he really came on last

741
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: year finally healthy. The guys had bad knees throughout his career.

742
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: He was a fan. Maybe the fantasy pickup of the

743
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: year last season at wide receiver. But now rank there's

744
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: a thousand wide receivers, you know, fighting for that, you know,

745
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: for the for fantasy relevance in San Diego. How do

746
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: you break it down? I'm going for upside here. I'm

747
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: gonna go with Keenan Allen. It was coming, I knew

748
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: it was coming. Well, I'm glad I didn't disappoint you.

749
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: You like how Chris Givens did not disappoint me on

750
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: Thursday night. Yes, And my point is Keenan Allen would

751
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: have been a first round receiver if he didn't have

752
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: some i'm gonna say questionable taste in headgear because he

753
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: wore Raiders had and he got a bunch of grief.

754
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: But now he's got a lot of talent and the

755
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: wrong hat. Well, you'll put a player down on your

756
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: rankings because of the wrong hat. Of course, except for

757
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick. That rule kind of spotty with the rule there.

758
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: What's up with these young kids? You think it's cool?

759
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: At least pretend you you want to you're on a team,

760
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: you want to play for it. You don't have to

761
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: wear the Raiders at you could have gone Oakland A's

762
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: hat right there. If you want to wear a Raiders hat,

763
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,440
Speaker 1: you know what, and you're not playing for the Raiders,

764
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: go through in a Los Angeles king's head. We have

765
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 1: the same colors. It's cool. Well, we'll welcome you in.

766
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: You're not too much of a bandwagoner because we won

767
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: the Stanley cut back in two thousand and twelve. And

768
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: once you're on the Raiders, you realize, oh, I didn't

769
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: really want to be here at all. I can't wear

770
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: my Raiders gear anymore. No, unless it's a Sea Bass jersey,

771
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: because then it looks handsome. And remember, don't forget Adam Ranks,

772
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 1: Kickers and Defensive. But wait, let's play it again right here, Adam,

773
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: in case you missed it earlier. As something happened. You're

774
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: listening to working out in the tread How is this happen?

775
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: This isn't the radio. Here is the just because it's

776
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: so funny. Here's the Kickers the Defensive podcast again and

777
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: its entirety Sebastian Janetkowski. That's defense pick up. Whoever is

778
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: playing the Jets done well? You never know, right, someone

779
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: could be someone tried to call on the phone. I

780
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: had to put it down for a second. I missed it.

781
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: I missed the podcasts. For those of you just joining us,

782
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: we're talking about key In Allen right now and now,

783
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: um upside is a big thing for me, and you

784
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: may and you raise an interesting point when you were

785
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: talking about Ken wizzen Hunt and trying to play trying

786
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: to coach for his next job, that the best way

787
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: to coach for his next job is to have Philip

788
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: Rivers have a renaissance at quarterback or resurgence. I don't

789
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: know if I'm using the right phrase. Is fine, he

790
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: could wear We'll go to the fair and you know,

791
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: he could learn how to juggle. That would be fun,

792
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: like that would help. I like that, and I like

793
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: that d J Fluker him and I hung out at

794
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: the NFL draft. He's a he's a fine young man

795
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: and I'm rooting for him, which none of that has

796
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: any fantasy relevance, But I thought i'd throw that in

797
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 1: as a quick aside because I'm stalling to really formulate

798
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: my thoughts and I wish, I wish I had a

799
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: better reason other than upside, because you're not gonna be

800
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: drafting Keenan Allen to start on your fantasy team. And

801
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: I always feel that once you fill out your your

802
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: bracket of starters and you've got all your positions filled

803
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: that that's when you start to just step back, heave

804
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: the ball up and then hope your receiver comes down

805
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: with that. It's like the quarterback equivalency of of being

806
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: Red Dalton, where you're just like, you know what, A J.

807
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: Green's out there, I'm just gonna throw it up. I

808
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 1: hope he comes down with it. Who knows. And you

809
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: do that with a lot of guys. I would rather

810
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: take a chance on Keenan Allen as opposed to trying

811
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: to figure out which game Santana Moss is going to have,

812
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, his breakout game which he seems to have

813
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: every year, two games against the Cowboys, and then there's

814
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 1: always that one. Um. You know, the Chargers to me

815
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: have a really interesting stable of wide receivers. I mean,

816
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: Narry Alexander was kind of chief among that group, and

817
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: you know, as you mentioned, obviously he's not gonna be

818
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: there this year. But you look at the guy like

819
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: Malcolm Floyd who can be productive at times. I mean

820
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: Alexander was a guy that people were looking He's frustrating.

821
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: He is frustrating. Keenan Allen is a guy that I

822
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 1: kind of liked as a deep sleeper this year. Another

823
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 1: name that I don't think it's getting enough run that

824
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: that we have kind of forgotten about is Vincent Brown.

825
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: Not if you talk to bar except at every conversation,

826
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: how you doing? Vincent Brown is my guy with that

827
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: big long lunch Arsenio all finger And is there a

828
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: San Diego State guy alive that Barbaja Biamila doesn't doesn't

829
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: think big big this year? Um, but I think I

830
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: think Vincent Brown is another guy though who was was

831
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,839
Speaker 1: hurt last year, who I think could jump in there

832
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: and really be a productive player this year. So you know,

833
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: it's a it's kind of a risk reward when you

834
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: talk about Chargers wide receivers. I mean, it's there's a

835
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: handful of guys there that could either be really big

836
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: or be really disappointing this year. But I like, I

837
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: like Keenan Allen to step in. I like Vincent Brown

838
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 1: to perhaps be a little bit of a sleeper this year.

839
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: And I think having Mike McCoy there a guy who,

840
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: let's face it, Mike McCoy made Tim Tebow a viable

841
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: quarterback in the National Football League for a handful of

842
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 1: games when he was in Denver. That says something. I

843
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 1: think if he can do that with Tim Tebow, he

844
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: can certainly do something to help revive Philip Rivers a

845
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: little bit. Get that passing game up and running a

846
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,280
Speaker 1: little bit more, and I think that helps the fantasy

847
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: value of some of those light outs there. Do you

848
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: guys believe in the how much do you believe in

849
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 1: the resurgence of Philip Rivers and any more than any

850
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: more than your than your number two courts, then my

851
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 1: number two guys, maybe more than That's the best part

852
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: about the quarterback position is that you don't have to

853
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: believe in any of these guys really, because odds are

854
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: you're going to draft a pretty good number one quarterback.

855
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 1: And even when you get past Matthew Stafford, who if

856
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: you're just joining us right now we talked about quarterbacks earlier,

857
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 1: that Matt Stafford is the number twelve rated ranked quarterback

858
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: on NFL dot Com. So assuming that that's the the

859
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: end of the qb ones in a twelve team league,

860
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 1: even you still have QB Eagles, who's gonna be there?

861
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: People like people could be Joey Harrington. You never know,

862
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: would you stop? There's more people from Oregon. He hasn't brought.

863
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: Dan Fouch could be the quarterback this year offense. That

864
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: was the most disconcerting thing about watching the Chargers preseason

865
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: game is that Dan Fouts does the play by play

866
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: with Billy ray Smith as the guy, and you're like,

867
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: Billy ray Smith, I don't remember who they passed. I

868
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: don't remember if they passed over Marcus Allen for Billy

869
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: ray What where did Marcus Allen go on the draft?

870
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: Because Billy ray Smith was drafted like fifth overall or

871
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 1: something ridiculous, and well, he wasn't a bust. You weren't

872
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: the fifth over You weren't the fifth best player in

873
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 1: that draft. So they did they take Billy ray Smith

874
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: ahead of him? Uh no, he did not go ahead

875
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: of of Marcus Allen. The tim the the nine players

876
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: ahead of Marcus Allen, just for your h Kenneth Simms,

877
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: Johnny Cooks, new Chip Banks, new arch Leister. Oh, Jim McMahon.

878
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: They gambled on that one. So wait wait, wait, So

879
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: Jim McMahon, Jim McMahon went fifth, went fifth in that

880
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: draft which means that Marcus Allen could have been, could

881
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,479
Speaker 1: have been the guy who took the torch from Walter Payton. Yes,

882
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: and that's early eighties teams that YEWO is this draft.

883
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: But would they have won the Super Bowl without Jim McMahon,

884
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: He said, Okay, there's other quarterbacks who were more talented,

885
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: but that guy was. I mean he was everything. He

886
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 1: was the he was the lynchpin of that team, and

887
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: everything he did made news. He kept took pressure off

888
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 1: the rest of the team with his head bands and everything.

889
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: He still threw the ball pretty well. I don't know

890
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: they would have won without him. It was nice to

891
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: have him in there. But if you if you looked

892
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: at all the other years that the Bears didn't make

893
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: the playoffs or excuse me, didn't make the Super Bowl,

894
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: it was because Jim McMahon wasn't playing Charles Charles Martin

895
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 1: driving him into the turf, and they had to go

896
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 1: with like Steve Fuller, and I think Jim Harbos started

897
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: getting into the mix two and I mean, of course,

898
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: of course, the one year he does play and does

899
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 1: go all the way is five when they play the

900
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams and the NFC championship game. So I

901
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 1: think as Steve Fuller versus dieter Brock matchup would have

902
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: been more even than dieter Brock versus Jim mcmannon. They

903
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: could still be playing the games. It would be scoreless.

904
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: By the way, the other four guys that went ahead

905
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: of Market s Island Jeff Bryant, Darren Nelson, Mike Munchak

906
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: and Gerald Riggs Nelson. If you played Techmo Bowl, he

907
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: was the guy you had to be. You had to

908
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 1: give him the football. In the Vikings offense, he was

909
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 1: the only playmaker they really had. But you're talking about

910
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: two the team that actually drafted a running back. So

911
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: it's it's fun in hindsight because the Bears didn't need

912
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: a running back act they needed a quarterback. So Jim

913
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: McMahon makes a lot of sense even now looking back

914
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: for Michael Jordan's playing at quarterback. Oh sorry, there you go.

915
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: I don't think that's I don't think that's the wrong answer.

916
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: Why not. But you look at a team that actually

917
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: drafted a running back where they said our need is

918
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: it running back, and we think Darren Nelson we're using

919
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:25,760
Speaker 1: from Minnesota. Darren Nelson went to Stanford Stanford from Stanford ohez, Yeah, okay,

920
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: I'm I'm smart. How don't yes? Of course? Anyways, but

921
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: they said that we want the guy. Did you not

922
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: watch Stanford in usc that's scene? I don't know. Alright, Well,

923
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: Marcus won the Heisman, right, was I mistaken? You love

924
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: hearing the phrase Marcus won the Heisman? I do. I'm

925
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: gonna like post that in my cubicle. Marcus won the Heisman,

926
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: all right? Well, a couple other injuries. We got Plexico Burrows,

927
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: who has done for the season with with a with

928
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 1: a torn rotator career. This could be done for his career,

929
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: but he was gonna only be the Steelers fourth or

930
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: fifth wide receiver, so largely that situation kind of goes unchanged.

931
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: But big opportunity in New Orleans. Joe Morgan, who who

932
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,760
Speaker 1: could have been a nice deep sleeper this season, also

933
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: out for the season after a hitting practice a week ago,

934
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: was officially ruled out for the year this week by

935
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: Sean Payton. So now Steve Preston got signed Nicktoon. Is

936
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: there any value in one of these guys? Is a

937
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: deep sleeper? No? No, very simply no, there's other options.

938
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: I would rather you start getting into the rookies and

939
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: younger guys. Ryan Broyle's is a guy who always intrigues

940
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: me because somebody opposite of Calvin Johnson is gonna get

941
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: gonna get some looks out there. So I would I

942
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: would take a risk on a guy like that. These

943
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: these re treads and people of that nature not a

944
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: lot of values. Not not for me at least. I mean,

945
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: it's just it's hard for me to get behind a

946
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: Saints receiver not named Marcus Colston. Um, you just can't

947
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: get behind lance More. You just never know on a

948
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: week to week basis, which are these guys is going

949
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: to be the breakout guy. I mean, you know, one

950
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: week it could have been it's lance More. You know,

951
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: one week it's Colston, one week. You just never really

952
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 1: know which way it's gonna go. I just I can't

953
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: really do it. If you're not named Marcus Colston or

954
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham, then then I just don't really buy you

955
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: being a legit fantasy starter for me. So your pro

956
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: guys named Marcus and if you want to go super

957
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: deep sleep or you can go Kimbrell ken Brell Thompkins. Yeah,

958
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: he's getting a lot of buzz. Of course again, we

959
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: are we are taping this Friday morning, so if something happened,

960
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: he broke, we cannot be held responsible. We cannot be

961
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: held responsible. However, if Tompkins Tompkins goes out and has

962
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,919
Speaker 1: a huge game, you'd be like those guys, it's worth

963
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: spot on. Yeah, and we'll just have it edited amazing. Yeah,

964
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: we'll just have it edited out. That's fine. As a

965
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: matter of fact, hold this and if if this doesn't

966
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 1: work out, I don't know if we introduced our producers

967
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: sitting in today cave, say hello, Okay, that's enough. That

968
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: wasn't That isn't even as long as Adam Ranks, Kickers

969
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: and Defensive Podcast need to get three words in. Listen here,

970
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:55,760
Speaker 1: Chenny Cathy taking over the say hello means say hello.

971
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean hey, I want to tell my life story.

972
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: We get it. We know too much about you already now.

973
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: But you can clip and save this if it if

974
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: it works out, are the Patriots playing Friday night? They

975
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: playing Friday? Okay, so if this doesn't work out, have

976
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: somebody cut this out tomorrow. But Kenbrell Tompkins will have

977
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: the best game on Friday Night. That is who everybody

978
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: is going to be talking about on Saturday morning. The

979
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: Fantasy overreactions hashtag Fantasy overreactions will be going off the

980
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: charts because this guy is going to have such an

981
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: amazing game And if he doesn't, you'll never know if

982
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,479
Speaker 1: you listen on Saturday, because this will be cut out, Tave.

983
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: I'll know because you know, asked him to come in

984
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: on the weekends and work when he had a nice

985
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: vacation plan with his girl Friday and Sunday. Yeah, it's

986
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: just just to do that, which means he'll actually put

987
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: it at the front of the podcast. That's what will happen.

988
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: This is how it opens. It'll be just and in

989
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: case you're just joining us, Jason Smith, Adam Rank, Marcus

990
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: Grant follow us on Twitter, I'm at how about a

991
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: fresca at Adam Rank, Marcus you are at Marcus g

992
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: That's correct, you are, and you got a couple of

993
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: shows coming up, right, I do. I'll be oh yeah,

994
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: if you're listening to this in the southern California area,

995
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: I will be at the Irvine Improv on Saturday night

996
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: at ten thirty pm and on Tuesday at the Tap

997
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 1: House and Hunting to Beach nine pm. I can get

998
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 1: you into free for you for either show, cost you nothing,

999
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: maybe a couple of drinks, just you know, to support

1000
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: the business and live comedy. You can come to either

1001
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: one of those shows. Just hit me up on Twitter

1002
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: at Adam Rank I'll get you in, or on Facebook

1003
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: at Adam at facebook dot com slash Adam Rank Comedy.

1004
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: All right, enjoy all the action. We'll talk to you.

1005
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: What do you mean did you have more? Did you

1006
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: want to do? Kickers and Defensive podcast. I was actually

1007
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: gonna mention the fact that the daily online shows for

1008
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Live begin on Monday, August twelve. Yeah, we

1009
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: start them on Monday every day and then every day online,

1010
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: and then we start beginning in September on NFL Network

1011
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 1: six days a week, two times a day. The show

1012
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 1: is just getting bigger and bigger. September two, as I think,

1013
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: is when it starts in NFL Network, which is still

1014
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: Labor Day, so we'll all be working Labor Day. For

1015
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: those of you who are sick of us, you'll get

1016
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 1: plenty more of us. Oh yes, yes, so we'll have

1017
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: that next week. And also I be we're gonna have

1018
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: the daily podcast during the year for fantasy. Yeah, I

1019
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: think we're gonna turn our our daily show on the

1020
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: network into a daily fantasy podcast. So don't tell that

1021
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: you can completely different, is it? Make sure you watch

1022
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,479
Speaker 1: the show and listen to the nine o'clock show different

1023
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: from the seven o'clock show. See that's it a little bit.

1024
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: Wait do you see what Adam marks wardrobe is? He

1025
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: changes a couple of times a day, and he actually

1026
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: tries out jokes for the improv in the early show

1027
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 1: and if they work, you bring him back in the

1028
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: late show. Well, you just you usually try him out

1029
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: of well, you never want to try him out of

1030
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: the light show because the audiences are a little bit

1031
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: looser at the in the late shows, they've been drinking

1032
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: a little bit more, so you could actually think like,

1033
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's cool, like this this really worked, and

1034
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: then go to some other you know, you go to

1035
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: the dinner show and it's like what is this moron

1036
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: talking about? Which I get more often than not. So alright,

1037
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: very good, enjoy the action, enjoy the weekend. We'll talk

1038
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: to you next week, and don't forget NFL Fantasy Live

1039
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 1: on NFL dot com starting Monday, August twelve, every day

1040
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 1: through the rest of the season,