WEBVTT - Draft Show: Final Thoughts On 2018 & Looking Ahead 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:07.720 Did. He's the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys 0:00:08.000 --> 0:00:11.040 on your war room for in Center, news and draft 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:15.160 analysis from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:19.720 the Star in for School Dallas Cowboys, Select Elliott and 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:26.400 now your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, well, well, 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:30.080 we welcome you back to the Draft Show. This would 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:35.920 be the final one the two thousand and eighteen draft season. 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:40.120 We'll come back at you one more time for open 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:43.519 week October twenty. Yeah. I think we'll let Dane Brugler 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:48.080 get to get working on this draft. This twenty nineteen 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:50.960 draft mock drafts already done for drafteen. How about that. 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:54.080 I'm not surprised. It's the worst article I do every year. Oh, 0:00:54.200 --> 0:00:56.400 I'm not gonna lie. Have a little fun with it. 0:00:56.400 --> 0:00:58.920 It's fine. Oh, it's stricted for clicks. Let's be honest, 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:01.680 of course, it is that I learned this game. Aren't 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:03.880 all mocks really for clicks at the end of the day, 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:06.039 except for maybe the final one you put out on 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:07.800 draft Day. I mean, I do enjoy doing some of 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:10.920 the mocks because it is interesting to It's a thought process. Okay, 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:13.120 this team could consider this guy. I've heard this team 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:16.280 considers this guy twenty nineteen. It's more of a hey, 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.760 this is a watch list thirty two names. Keep these 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:21.399 guys on your radar on chair defensive line for next year. 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:25.200 Oh yeah, you have all four of the Clemson guys going. 0:01:26.040 --> 0:01:28.920 I do not have Bryant the one end, but I 0:01:29.040 --> 0:01:31.319 think that he enters the year is like a second 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:34.000 third at the chance to get into late one. Well 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:36.800 that's the voice of our scouting buddy, Dane Brugler. Of course, 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:40.160 David Helmet across the table from him. Ken Garrison Executive 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.520 producing today. Yeah, we're gonna try and put a bow 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:46.560 on this two thy and eighteen NFL Draft. The three 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:48.920 days of coverage here on the on Dallas Cowboys dot 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.120 Com and then with our partners on one oh five three. 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:54.240 As always, the draft show is sponsored by Miller Lite, 0:01:54.280 --> 0:01:57.920 and we appreciate all the fine work. And you blow 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.120 a watch, right, Dave, you blow I'm below on the clock. 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:03.560 Kelly only brought that up about twenty five percent as 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:06.000 often as we were supposed. Yeah, my timing was that 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.640 was not always very good, but the execution, the thought 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:11.400 was good. You know what, folks, I want to make 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:14.000 this show about you today if I could, and we'll 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:16.160 get into it. You've kind of heard what we settled 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.480 about a lot of these guys. I don't have the 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:23.680 official list of the Cowboys who they signed after the draft. 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:27.040 I'm gonna get that, hopefully during the show, but and 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:28.960 we can get into those guys a little bit. I'll 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:32.079 maybe at the end of the show, I'll pick I'll 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:34.239 pick Dane Brugler's brain on a couple of guys. I know. 0:02:34.480 --> 0:02:36.920 David Wells was a guy tight end I saw, and 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.000 then Cam Kelly was a couple of San Diego State kids, 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:43.120 and then to Quinton Osborne as a kid I watch 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:45.280 from Oklahoma State that I can kind of talk about 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:46.799 a little bit. But I'll get the official list. We'll 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:48.359 go through it. But I do want to make this 0:02:48.400 --> 0:02:52.560 show about you guys. If we could make sure you 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:55.200 tweet us at the draft show, or make sure you 0:02:55.320 --> 0:03:00.720 hit David Hellman at his account Hellman d see and 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:02.960 you know, if you have any questions. I also want 0:03:03.000 --> 0:03:05.320 to take some calls, you know. We that's something we 0:03:05.320 --> 0:03:07.840 really haven't done very much because we get in I 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:10.600 run out of time and that's on me. And but 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.680 if you guys have some you know, some questions for 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.160 Dane or Dave or myself or you know, want to 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:19.079 know some things, give us a shout. KNT. Garrison will 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:22.440 be happy to take the call. We're at eight eight 0:03:22.480 --> 0:03:25.520 eight eight five five two two nine seven. You'll see 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:27.959 it on the top. I believe right corner or a 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.360 left corner, one of those corners. But that's where we 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.280 uh and can't. I want to just give you free rain. 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.360 If somebody calls in, you just fire them through and 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:38.880 we'll get to it. But you want to start off 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:41.040 of the call, right? Yeah? Why not? I mean yeah, 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:43.760 I mean yeah, we've we've talked about we've talked about 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:46.280 this draft and you know, we'll get into it some more. 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:48.120 But I want to give people a chance, this one 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:51.920 last time to interact with us in this way. So again, 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:53.760 go ahead and shoot me a call. Tell me where they're, 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:55.560 who they are, and where they're from. And by the way, folks, 0:03:56.120 --> 0:03:59.360 everybody in this room is doing very very well. We 0:03:59.400 --> 0:04:02.400 appreciate you, always concerned, your concern thinking about us, But 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:05.320 get your question, get going. We'll we'll get to many 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:06.920 as these we can, So go ahead, can't all right? 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:12.280 We got Joe in Pennsylvania. Joe, go ahead, it's up, Joe. Good. Good. Guys, 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:15.400 Hey just wanted a comment, mainly to finish up. I 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:20.120 just want to start out by thanking you, the three 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:25.360 of you, for the outstanding job you've done over this season. 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.280 You know, Brian, the wisdom and experience you bring from 0:04:28.320 --> 0:04:30.840 being in the trenches, the passion you have for it 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.599 just add so much to the show and just undergirds 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:38.159 everything that you guys do together as a team. Dane, 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:42.599 your current mindset on today's scouting professionalism, the way you 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:47.520 carry yourself, that you're that calm kind of logical approach 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.679 is just you guys are just such a credit to 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:54.160 us being able to watch me. I don't watch anybody 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:58.839 else just because I trust you. Guys. You're not for flair. 0:04:58.960 --> 0:05:01.640 You're not trying to get you know, clicks, as far 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.080 as you know, trying to trying to show boat things. 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:06.200 You just are in the trench is doing what needs 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:08.720 to be done. And Dave, the growth I've seen in 0:05:08.839 --> 0:05:12.839 you over the years, what you bring to that show, 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:16.200 to bringing the team together. You bring the best out 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:18.840 of Brian. You bring the best at a Dane and 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:21.960 you make you make us feel like we're part of 0:05:22.000 --> 0:05:23.800 the show. So I just want to just tell you, 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.720 guys how much I think I speak on behalf of 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:29.839 the entire crowd, the entire group that watches you. We 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.560 thank you so much for all you've put into this. 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.400 And just a final comment, a lot of people Dallas 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:38.960 fans are concerned about well some of the picks and 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:40.440 that all I have to say is look at the 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.960 track record over the years. This front office I think 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.839 has earned our trust and I think just give it 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.200 a chance to play out and I think will be 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:53.320 pleasantly surprised. Thank you very much. Appreciate the call. Bade Joe, 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:55.800 which one of us, Well, I have a brother Joe 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.279 in Pennsylvania. Maybe maybe that was I feel like a 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:03.159 million bucks right now. Very kind of okay. Uh, you 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.560 know he's right about the track record for these guys. 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.960 They seem to find a way to do things drafting wise. There. Well, 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:11.279 you know, as we go through this a little bit, 0:06:12.120 --> 0:06:15.280 you know, I'm I'm with him on I left all 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:19.320 my stats upstairs. What stats did you leave upstairs? The 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.880 stuff you're looking at, like the draft breakdowns and stuff. Yeah, 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.839 everything I took the taste everything you gave me, everything 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:26.640 I gave you the other night, and said, here, take this, 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:28.880 you'll need it. What were you about to say? I 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:30.560 was just kind of looking through the draft and I 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.000 was wondering with what you guys saw, and you know, 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:35.560 like the best pick. I'm not saying the best pick, 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.880 worst pick or anything like that, but just as you 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:40.400 went through the picks that they made, where did you 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.680 find that the value was. And you know, we we've 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:46.120 kind of heard some things now now that since the 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:48.839 drafts over. You know that last day it wasn't trying 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:50.960 to trade for more, It was trying to trade up 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:54.680 for Armstrong. They obviously felt pretty pretty strong about him. 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.840 You know, we've we've heard about you know, what was 0:06:57.880 --> 0:07:00.640 going on with you know, Michael gallup at potentially could 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:02.840 have been not there if they would have made this, 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.400 if Seattle would have taken the third round pick for 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:08.800 you know, for the safety there. But kind of go 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:12.120 through it in your mind and tell me where you 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:16.240 felt like though, Uh, this team uh did a pretty 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.960 good job of of of getting some value where they 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:22.120 picked their picked their players. Well, I think the beauty 0:07:22.160 --> 0:07:24.600 of this is you could really point to several different 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.160 points and the draft where they got value. And that's 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:31.160 there's no right or wrong answer here. Um Connor Williams, 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:34.400 Michael Gallop into the fourth round with what they did 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.840 with Armstrong and Schultz, Um, and then getting like a 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:41.480 guy like Cedric Wilson late Mike White we loved. Yeah, 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.400 you know Mike White. Yeah, I had a three to 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.400 four on him, sure, three on him myself, so exactly 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.440 we both thought that he was in consideration at the 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:51.440 top one hundred picks. So to get him where they did, Um, 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:53.080 you know, I know what was the big thing we 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:55.320 talked about going into this draft, how this team has 0:07:55.360 --> 0:07:57.320 so many needs. Sure, you know that's with me. The 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:59.760 first round so unpredictable. They could go five six different 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:02.840 positions and no one would bat an eye. It's you know, 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:04.200 a lot of fans are upset, Well, we need to 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.520 get a safety, we need to do interior defensive line. Well, 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:08.960 when you look at it, we've been talking about how 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.920 there's so many needs. You weren't going to address every 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:14.520 single need in this draft, you know, with a top 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:18.720 four round pick. So considering what they did, considering who 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:20.400 was on the board at the time, I think they 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:22.360 did a heck of a job. That's a perfect setup 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:24.200 for what I wanted to say, which I'll just keep 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:27.000 harping on it, which I love a lot of the 0:08:27.040 --> 0:08:30.880 stuff they did, but it starts at the top. And 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:34.160 that's even with a guy that was not like the 0:08:34.200 --> 0:08:36.600 favorite of the three people in this room. You just 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:38.720 said before the show you had Layton vander Esh ranked 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:42.800 twenty six, So by that logic, you could argue it's 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:44.480 a bit of a reach to take him where they did. 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:46.839 You could argue that, and I mean you would agree 0:08:46.840 --> 0:08:49.240 with that. You probably wouldn't have drafted him if you 0:08:49.240 --> 0:08:51.640 were making the call. But again, you're not going to 0:08:51.720 --> 0:08:54.000 get a starter caliber player with every pick you make. 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:56.840 You had to make sure you address that position with 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.800 as good of a player as possible. And to do that, 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:01.920 a guy like Layton vander Esh, who can do a 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.160 little bit of everything, could be your day one starter 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.440 at Mike if you wanted him or needed him to 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:09.440 be on top of a million other things. I thought 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.839 it was, like I said, even they're not going to 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:13.920 ever admit that it was a reach. Maybe it wasn't 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:15.880 for them. Maybe they had him ranked fie. It was 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.120 very it was obvious. They no, well, it's obvious that 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.719 they loved him. Yeah, they did, absolutely love because they 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:22.679 were they were they had an opportunity to trade up 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.880 for Derwin James and they didn't and they did and 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.360 they didn't. And you remember there at the you know, 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:29.680 the war room cam there when we did that. You know, 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.600 they didn't flinch. It was one of those you know me, 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:34.920 I'd be terrible. I was always terrible in a war 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:36.880 room because I would get a little you could you 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:40.720 could get you could tell by my my demeanor. Did 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:42.920 if it was something that bothered me. Yeah, you know 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:45.640 if if somebody back in the day when you know, 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.120 Ozzie was taking picks ahead of us and stuff, and 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.120 you're kind of and you just kind of, you know, 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.360 you you just like you look down and you close 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:54.280 your eyes and you're just like, you know, you say, 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:57.360 damned yourself like that and or throw the pin or whatever. 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:02.880 But they were I think people or maybe faulting them 0:10:02.880 --> 0:10:05.640 a little bit about the Vanderesh pick. They loved the 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.520 Connor Williams pick right well, but they're faulting them for 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.680 because they didn't go get Derwin Jane. And that's well, 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:14.280 that's and Hey, I mean, if there's really if there's 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.840 one thing I could criticize them for, it's not addressing safety. 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:19.360 And then they were they tried, they tried to trade 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:21.679 for all pro safety. They were up for it, really did. 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:23.719 They were upfront and honest about it. After the draft too, 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:25.760 they're like, we didn't get it done. It didn't break 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:28.600 that way, and they'll they'll have to figure a way 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:33.200 out around that. But uh, my point being, even if 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:34.920 they're not going to say it was a reach, maybe 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:36.400 they don't think it was a reach, but even if 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:39.280 it was a reach, by taking care of that, it 0:10:39.400 --> 0:10:41.800 opened you up to get better value down the line. 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.400 And not only that, but kind of going back to 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:46.640 what we talked about last year, I feel way better 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:51.040 about asking Layton vander Esh to be that guy than 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:53.880 if they had waited until the third round to address linebacker. 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.960 I think that's that's how you get in trouble. So 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:58.760 I like that a lot. We talked a lot about 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:02.120 how all the Cowboy had just lost that Week seventeen game, 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:06.120 they'd have pick fifteen, pick sixteen, wherever it would Yeah, 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.360 even if they had that pick, I think Layton Vanderesh 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.840 would have been the pick. Even with Derwin James on 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:14.080 the board, I think Layton Vanders would have been a pick. 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:16.360 He was the guy that they identified. They might have 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.720 drafted over Tremy and Edmunds. Sure, I think that's very possible. 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.160 I could have happened. So um, you know, I don't. 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:24.040 I don't want fans to have any remorse about that, 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.560 because again, if they had the fifteen sixteenth pick Hick, 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:28.760 if they trade it up, everyone had been like, oh 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:30.920 they're going to get Derwin, get Derwin, they would have 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:32.599 gone up to get Layton vandersh Yeah, that was the 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.400 guy they identified early on. And yes I had him 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.040 as twenty six on my board, but really I'd say 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:42.000 between the picks, like on my board seventeen to thirty, 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.120 it was so close. Ye mean, there was like the 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.520 same tier you were struggling for that. I was the 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:48.520 same way because I had him as twenty eight on 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:50.160 my board. I think I told you, but I had 0:11:50.160 --> 0:11:53.319 Connor Williams above him. Yeah, so you know, to me, 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:58.120 the Cowboys off my top fifty got three players out 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:00.760 of that. Every every pick they had, the first three 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.120 picks were all second round picks on my board. If 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:06.160 you're follow along on on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. I 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:09.559 put out my board, so you know exactly where my 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:13.160 interests was on as far as that board. So yeah, 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:16.640 I mean I think that the I think the execution again, 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:18.600 I look at the draft, and I think Dane's got 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:21.760 a great idea about not grading. You know, because I 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:23.360 had a guy one time and I told the story 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:25.680 a bunch. I had a scout one time in Philly 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:27.960 tell me that that. You know, he said, you just 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:29.840 had the worst draft in the history of the National 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.120 Football League. I looked at him and I said, do 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:33.480 you think you want to give that a couple of 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:35.480 years to three years? Because no, no, you had it 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.640 well you know, three or four years later for the 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:40.480 eight picks make the Pro Bowl. I mean, you know, 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:43.800 and so you know, I just I think you have 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:45.920 to be careful about that. I think when you look 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:49.200 at the execution the plan, I think that's where you 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:51.160 I think that's where you have to avou Did they 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:53.720 do the things? Did they not get a safety? Yeah 0:12:53.760 --> 0:12:57.360 they didn't, But was the execution of the other picks 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.920 what you that is? I think if you listen to 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:04.440 this show from January until now, yeah, I mean this year, 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:06.679 but any year. Like, the number one thing I think 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:09.280 it teaches you is that's that's just not a way 0:13:09.320 --> 0:13:11.440 you can look at the draft in the immediate aftermath. 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.560 Like all all you can do is look at the 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:17.920 players great amount, see what the value is, and appreciate 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.600 the strategy. The strategy worked out really well. I think 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:22.760 they got really good value. That doesn't mean any of 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:25.240 the picks are going to work out, but you I mean, 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.760 it is what it is. That's the nature of the draft. Um, 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:32.000 were you guys surprised they took nine picks, Yes, no, 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:34.480 I think if there's one thing I feel, you know, 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:37.920 I think we were right about a lot of our 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.959 inklings about what they might try to do. Yeah, I 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:42.680 was dead wrong about that. I thought that that was 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:44.640 the one I missed on too. I feel like they 0:13:45.160 --> 0:13:47.560 make at least two trade. Well they did make two trades, 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:49.160 but I thought, you know, I thought they it would 0:13:49.200 --> 0:13:50.880 be higher up in the draft. I thought it would 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.000 be a little more costly. I mean they didn't make 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.960 a single trade with UH in terms of moving up 0:13:56.000 --> 0:13:58.880 or down to play. No, No, they didn't make a move. 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:01.600 They gave it a sixth round picked to get an 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:04.560 established player, whether he's established or not. At least you 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:08.120 have an idea what Tavon Austin could be. I mean, 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.960 it was enough to move on from I mean, god, 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:14.440 how many minutes did we spend hours probably talking about 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:17.640 jumping from nineteen to twelve, fifty to thirty. But but 0:14:17.679 --> 0:14:19.280 that's the whole idea you've got, and you got to 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:21.080 do that. You were I mean, I think the thing 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.680 too is when you look at and you Dane, you 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:27.080 even read your report about Ward Jihad Ward who who 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:31.400 that's a Will McClay guy that yeah, yeah, when when 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.560 when they coached in the Senior Bowl. When Will when 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:38.240 the Raiders offered him? That was a no brainer for Will. 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.200 They you know, they had Austin already, so you know 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:43.200 I had people kind of say, oh, well, you know, 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:44.800 and even in the mail bag this morning day, we 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:46.960 had a guy say, oh, camp body. Yeah, this is 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:48.800 not this is not a camp body. This is a 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:51.840 guy that will honestly come in and compete for a spot. 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.360 But a guy that they thought enough of that they're 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:59.480 going to sacrificed. You know, Brandon's excuse me, Ryan Switzer 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:02.480 and say okay, we'll take this gun because we like 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.280 him better. Than Ryan Switzer the flip side of that coin. 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.520 I mean again, I can appreciate the strategy. Who knows 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:10.680 if it's gonna work out. I mean they they thought 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:13.160 Benson Mayo was really going to be a big time 0:15:13.360 --> 0:15:17.040 sure lottery pick for them and didn't really, so we'll see. 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:19.360 But he's got the traits they like he was. I 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.040 think I think I heard they had a third round 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:25.400 grade on him in sixteen. Sure, so I mean, you 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:27.320 get Tavon Austin. Like I said, I mean, I don't 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.960 love the idea of sending Ryan Switzer away, but I 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.160 see the logic and if it works out, then it 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.680 it's not a heavy price to pay, and real quickly. 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.800 We talked about um even the day before the draft, 0:15:39.560 --> 0:15:42.400 using your second, your third to move up to you know, 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:44.920 thirty four, thirty five to get Courtland Sutton right who 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:47.320 ended up going forty So they could have worked. Yeah. 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.960 So but now that we can look back, who would 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:53.440 you rather have Connor Williams and Michael Gallup or Courtland 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:56.480 sut Not even close? Yeah? See to me, Yeah, this 0:15:56.560 --> 0:15:59.400 is this is where this is where the Dame Burgler 0:15:59.440 --> 0:16:02.640 School of Patients pace off. Here. This is like Okay, 0:16:02.720 --> 0:16:05.280 stop wanting to trade all my picks, Brian, you know, 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:08.160 don't let me go up, you know, but I total 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.040 him with you on that because again, you look at 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:12.480 and those are two players that I had in my 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:15.400 top fifty. And you need to remind somebody one day 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:17.400 when you're in a war room that you know, when 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.080 you get to be and you know, doing that the 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.760 next spring, yeah, next spring, doing you you know, say, hey, 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.880 listen to who do we really want here? Look at 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.400 the big picture here, and I think if you're Dallas Cowboys, 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:29.000 as much as I wanted him to go up and 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:32.240 be aggressive and do things, stand right there and making 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.840 picks was the right way to go. Shouts out to 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:37.080 all my people who were convinced Jerry was going to 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:40.240 make a splash because the draft was in his building. Yeah, 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.240 they had a really good draft, in my opinion, but 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:46.560 nothing splashy about it, just making picks. Who's the one player, 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:48.720 Dane that you know you look at this board and 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.120 take We'll take Mike White out of it, because really 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:53.880 he's the lottery pick, you know. I mean, hopefully he'll 0:16:53.880 --> 0:16:56.440 get some good work during the preseason and you kind 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:58.040 of get a little bit more idea what he's like. 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:00.560 I just love the player though, But who's the guy 0:17:00.600 --> 0:17:03.280 that we're kind of not We're gonna we're gonna talk 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:05.840 about right now, just to kind of give people and 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:07.640 I do you think, Okay, this guy is gonna come 0:17:07.680 --> 0:17:11.520 in and and and we understand Vanderish and maybe Connor Williams, 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:13.840 But who's the guy that you have that you say, hey, listen, 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:17.120 watch this guy. Once he puts on a pro uniform, 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.160 He's gonna be it. He could be a difference maker 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:21.520 for you there. Well, I think obviously Gallup, um I 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:25.080 don't think it would surprise anybody if he became the 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:27.520 best receiver on this roster by the end of his 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.560 rookie year. I think that's possible. Um So, I think 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:32.399 he's in that mix. But if we look at some 0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:36.720 of the Day three guys, if Jason Wynn does indeed retire, yeah, 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:38.880 then Dalton Schultz, all of a sudden he gets thrust 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:42.440 into the spotlight. You know, he's gonna be put into 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:44.800 a mix with some other tight ends who have more experience. 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.560 But Schultz has better talent, and so at some point 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:50.280 during this season the talent will win out. He will 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:54.160 see the field and coming from that Stanford offense, he's 0:17:54.440 --> 0:17:58.440 well versus a blocker. Uh, he understands what us. Put 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:01.399 his hand on the ground, play in line. You know, 0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:04.960 he's not the amazing athlete that you want as a receiver, 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.159 but he can get open. He can go down the field. 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:09.280 So I think Dalton Schultz, you know, ready or not, 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:12.399 might be thrust into a role where he's going to 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:14.879 see plenty of action, plenty of snaps, and so we 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:17.199 have to wait and see how the Jason Witten saga 0:18:17.240 --> 0:18:20.080 plays out. This is a question. This ties into a 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:22.159 question I've gotten from a lot of people, you know, 0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.800 since we since I tweeted this morning. Yeah, by the way, 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:26.919 we are taking your questions day, will grab him or 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.120 you call remember eight eight eight eight five five two 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:31.600 two nine seven. We'd like to hear from you. You know, 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:33.760 don't be shy about it. Pick up the foam, give 0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:36.520 us a shout or tweet a question at at Helm 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:38.280 and DC there and we'll try and get that taken 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:40.720 care of. And you know, I don't know how big 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:42.359 of an impact he's going to have because he's got 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:43.880