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Speaker 1: the Star in for School Dallas Cowboys, Select Elliott and

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Speaker 1: now your hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, well, well,

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Speaker 1: we welcome you back to the Draft Show. This would

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Speaker 1: be the final one the two thousand and eighteen draft season.

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Speaker 1: We'll come back at you one more time for open

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Speaker 1: get to get working on this draft. This twenty nineteen

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. It's the worst article I do every year. Oh,

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Speaker 1: this is a watch list thirty two names. Keep these

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Speaker 1: that's the voice of our scouting buddy, Dane Brugler. Of course,

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Speaker 1: David Helmet across the table from him. Ken Garrison Executive

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Speaker 1: producing today. Yeah, we're gonna try and put a bow

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Speaker 1: on this two thy and eighteen NFL Draft. The three

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Speaker 1: and we appreciate all the fine work. And you blow

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Speaker 1: a watch, right, Dave, you blow I'm below on the clock.

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Speaker 1: Kelly only brought that up about twenty five percent as

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Speaker 1: that you take a chance on a guy like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I keep talking about what widely from Iowa that I

428
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Speaker 1: think he's signed with anybody. Yeah, he did Tennessee and

429
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Speaker 1: put a forward by the way, went to Seattle. That's

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Speaker 1: the out of my draft, and they I'm in for

431
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Speaker 1: a top thirty. There's a there's a team that knows

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Speaker 1: something about defensive lineman. So catch an eye on that one. Um.

433
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Speaker 1: But I think the thing with to me with Scarborough

434
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Speaker 1: is Scarborough gonna be able to play special teams? You

435
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Speaker 1: know how Scarbough gonna be able to be an active

436
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Speaker 1: guy on the forty six. Everybody's like, oh, that's a

437
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Speaker 1: great one to bring. But you know, how did how

438
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Speaker 1: did Rod Smith make this team? Special team? Special teams?

439
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Speaker 1: Big guy, big guy special? Okay, if you're gonna be

440
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Speaker 1: a big guy be special teams, I would think he

441
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Speaker 1: can do it. Yeah. Well that's what I'm saying, though,

442
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're you're talking about a guy. It's

443
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Speaker 1: kind of been kind of nicked up some does he

444
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Speaker 1: mean we see a big body, but do you see

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Speaker 1: the toughness to be able to say, Okay, I'm gonna

446
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Speaker 1: put this behind me. You know, I'm not gonna worry

447
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Speaker 1: about having to carry the ball anymore. I'm gonna I'm

448
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Speaker 1: gonna try and be one of the best special teams

449
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Speaker 1: players that I could be, you know, And I don't

450
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Speaker 1: know if he necessarily if his game translates to a

451
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Speaker 1: guy like Rod Smith developed because again, like you said,

452
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Speaker 1: special teams, I don't know if I don't know if

453
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Speaker 1: both Scarborough can be a guy that all of a sudden,

454
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Speaker 1: is he going to be on the fifty three or

455
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Speaker 1: someone're gonna beat him out because you know, Jerry Jones

456
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Speaker 1: even said it himself. To be the third back on

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Speaker 1: this team, you got to find a way to play

458
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Speaker 1: special teams. And I worry about Scarborough in that in

459
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Speaker 1: that deep and he's I mean he's the fourth technically

460
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Speaker 1: because you got a full back in Yeah, who plays

461
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Speaker 1: who plays special teams? Yeah, you know, Ola Wally does

462
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Speaker 1: line it. But the beauty don't think as good as

463
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Speaker 1: Keith Smith was. But we'll see the beauty of that

464
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Speaker 1: is that I mean, you tend to you first of all,

465
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Speaker 1: you overvalue your own team's picks, right, and also he's

466
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Speaker 1: a very recognizable name given where he's coming from. I mean,

467
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Speaker 1: if he doesn't make the fifty three, he seems like

468
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Speaker 1: a practice squad, no brainer. Oh sure, that's fine. Sure.

469
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Speaker 1: And the other thing about Scarborough is the injuries in

470
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Speaker 1: the In my guide, I go back to high school.

471
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Speaker 1: In high school, it reseeason ending injuries. Yeah. So it's

472
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Speaker 1: just he's a guy that struggled as they healthy in

473
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Speaker 1: the past, and uh, you know, it's a guy that

474
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Speaker 1: didn't carry the ball a lot at Alabama and he

475
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Speaker 1: still was dinged up quite a bit. I just again,

476
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Speaker 1: I look at if you if you want to talk

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Speaker 1: about some things that I might have been might have

478
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Speaker 1: been different. I mean, okay, I'll even throw you this one.

479
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Speaker 1: I think the kid that William from LSU would have

480
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Speaker 1: been a special teams guy. You don't have to you

481
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Speaker 1: don't have to get me the top running back on

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Speaker 1: my board. And see that's what I'm saying. I mean,

483
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484
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Speaker 1: and there's another team that knows something about backs. They've

485
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Speaker 1: taken a few LSU backs have something minutes something. I

486
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Speaker 1: just kind of I look at I look at the situation,

487
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Speaker 1: and I say, Okay, if you're give me a guy

488
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Speaker 1: that's got a chance to make my team. I get Scarborough,

489
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Speaker 1: I mean, he Freagan, he's a tank, I get it.

490
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Speaker 1: But I'm trying to think, Okay, what's the best opportunity

491
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Speaker 1: for him to make my team. Be a be a

492
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Speaker 1: special teams guy, be a really good catcher out of

493
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Speaker 1: the backfield, and be an adequate pass block. One of

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Speaker 1: the most refreshingly honest things that came out Saturday was

495
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Speaker 1: after it was all over, Stephen Jones was like, we're

496
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Speaker 1: gonna get a good look at him this summer because

497
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Speaker 1: y'all know, Zeke's not going to play a lot. So yeah,

498
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Speaker 1: he's gonna have he's gonna get to work. So we'll

499
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Speaker 1: show what he can do and we'll see and we'll

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Speaker 1: see if in fact, he can do all the things

501
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Speaker 1: that we were talking about. Okay, well, we're gonna take

502
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Speaker 1: our first break when we come back. I think Dave's

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Speaker 1: So I agree with the last caller, like, you guys

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about this draft. I think we did hell

566
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Speaker 1: of a pics of great trades and I'm really excited

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Speaker 1: about it. So I just have a couple of questions

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Speaker 1: for you guys. Sure go ahead in regards to the receiver,

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Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm a bit torn here because I

570
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Speaker 1: believe that all the receivers can create a unique asset

571
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Speaker 1: to his team. So I'm just kind of confused on

572
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Speaker 1: who's the odd man out. And as far as the

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Speaker 1: draft and off season, how much more confident do you

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Speaker 1: feel about the projective execution of our quarterback? And the

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Speaker 1: last question that I have, I'm sorry that I have

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Speaker 1: a lot of questions about it. And the last question

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Speaker 1: is um, now that we've dropped cornor Williams, do you

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Speaker 1: believe that the best fob approach UM is more feasible

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Speaker 1: now now that we have him now? So I'm no.

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Speaker 1: Last year, I don't know, there was quite speculation about uh,

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Speaker 1: some people didn't really agree with the best fob approach

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Speaker 1: because it kind of hurt us as a tame. But

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Speaker 1: now can we get away with that? And I'll just

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Speaker 1: take your call off. Thanks Josh, appreciate you, sir, appreciate

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Speaker 1: you taking the time to call. Okay, I will David

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Speaker 1: Hilmet give me the odd man out potentially or kind

587
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Speaker 1: of line up what you see with that. That's really

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Speaker 1: the beauty of it. And you know, I'm not gonna

589
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Speaker 1: lie at y'all. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, but

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Speaker 1: that's that's but that's the beauty of it. You look

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Speaker 1: at it, you take him to training camp and figure

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Speaker 1: it out. And in all honesty, I think there's so

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Speaker 1: there are there eight right now there and okay, I

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Speaker 1: think there's ten if you include like Katie Cannon Lancelot,

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Speaker 1: But go down the depth chart. Your guess is as

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Speaker 1: good as mine. I think it's it's a really good

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Speaker 1: bet that Alan Hearns is here because they gave him

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Speaker 1: he feels a role that they don't really have in

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Speaker 1: terms that he's probably the biggest bodied receiver on this team,

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Speaker 1: uh and his versatile. So he's here. Michael Gallup is

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you don't cut third round picks. I

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Speaker 1: don't remember the last time that happened. And at least

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Speaker 1: not in his rookie year. Um. Other than that, it's

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Speaker 1: pretty wide open. I mean, um, I think I think

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Speaker 1: because again, it hurts the team to cut him. It

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Speaker 1: actually would cost them four million dollars. They don't get

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Speaker 1: any savings. But you could just rip that band aid

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Speaker 1: off if you were really convinced you wanted two. But

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Speaker 1: I would guess he's probably safe, So you take those

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Speaker 1: three could be a g though he could I mean, well,

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Speaker 1: they they say that they think he's ready for the

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Speaker 1: We'll have to see. Uh. And then the thing with

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Speaker 1: of camp, you have all of camp to get off of. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: those three stand out to me as pretty comfortable. Tavon

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Speaker 1: That's not a big deal if you don't like him.

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Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson is a seventh round pick or was it

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Speaker 1: sixth sixth round pick? Um, that's nothing. Six round picks

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Speaker 1: And that's why, honestly, you know, like I said, it

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Speaker 1: So that's another guy that you don't have to keep

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Speaker 1: when you consider that's with that Beasley and Austin are

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Speaker 1: now here, so it made sense to kind of try

638
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Speaker 1: to clear up that room before you even get into

639
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Speaker 1: the process of practicing. So, um yeah, I'm really excited

640
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Speaker 1: to see just competition. Take ten guys to camp and

641
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Speaker 1: see who has the best month. And that's what Stephen

642
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Speaker 1: Jones and Jason Garrett have been saying since February, and

643
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Speaker 1: they were pretty true to it because there shouldn't be

644
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Speaker 1: very many people in that room who were comfortable that

645
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Speaker 1: they're going to have a job when the regular season

646
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Speaker 1: gets here. I will give Noah Brown some credit. I

647
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Speaker 1: didn't even mention Brown. Noah Brown and Lancelor I'll give

648
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Speaker 1: them some credit because in the in the captain's workouts

649
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: or they've not missed a day. No, these guys kind

650
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Speaker 1: of see the riding on the wall and they know

651
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Speaker 1: they have to be in the absolute best shape. Okay,

652
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Speaker 1: the question Another question was about I bet they keep

653
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Speaker 1: six and put two on the practice squads. So take

654
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Speaker 1: your pick, all right, And he asked about the execution

655
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Speaker 1: of the quarterback. He meant, O line too, but go ahead,

656
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Speaker 1: but no, that's what I'm saying. I was going to

657
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Speaker 1: get from the Connor Williams one too. Yeah, but no,

658
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Speaker 1: the execution of the quarterback. What do you think better?

659
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Speaker 1: Better execution from the quarterback this year? Kind of a things,

660
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Speaker 1: you know, with maybe the stability with the offensive line. Yeah,

661
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: we'll see the offense looks like without Whitton. Yeah that's

662
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: if that's what's going to happen. I'll tell you where

663
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: the offense is going to look different without Witton and

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Speaker 1: without Dez Bryant. Red zone. Yeah, it's gonna be a

665
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: different team in the red zone. I mean, because the

666
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Speaker 1: one thing Witton was very good at was his ability

667
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Speaker 1: to play in the red zone, and then of course

668
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant with the fifty fifty ball. So yeah, that

669
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: they're clearly going to look differently. I think that. I

670
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: think I'm excited a healthier offensive line. Ezekiel Elliott, you know,

671
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Speaker 1: being there full time, you hope that the the You

672
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Speaker 1: hope that what you saw from rod Smith will help

673
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Speaker 1: the quarterback late too. As far as if you know

674
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Speaker 1: he gets in there and gets goes, I think you

675
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: got you know, all your receiving targets are gonna it's

676
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: just gonna get open and I'll find you. And they're

677
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: not worrying about getting the ball to anybody. We're not

678
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: gonna have to go on talking Cowboys or the Break

679
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: the week after a game and say, how come Dez

680
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: isn't getting more targets or Dez is getting too many targets.

681
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: I mean, just get open and I'll find you. And

682
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Speaker 1: on top of that, assuming he makes the team, I'm

683
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: intrigued by what Tavon Austin can do in the sense

684
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Speaker 1: that he's a more well rounded, lucky whitehead. I think

685
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Speaker 1: he can do a lot of that type of stuff

686
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Speaker 1: and do more than Lucky did. So I think that's

687
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: another wrinkle that should really help that Connor Williams is

688
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Speaker 1: your starter at left guard, don't you feel like he

689
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: should be? I think so. Yeah. But the best five

690
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: thing is interesting because Okay, if Tyron does go down, yeah,

691
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 1: I mean he Connor Wills could kick out the left tax. Yeah, absolutely,

692
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: if you feel more comfortable with him doing that, or

693
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: you know, then maybe move Lyle Collins the left guard,

694
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Speaker 1: Cameron Fleming at right tap. I mean they've got options

695
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Speaker 1: with if one of those guys goes down up front

696
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Speaker 1: at the five. I mean, what if Travis Frederick goes down,

697
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: who's your center? Yeah, I think that we're gonna give

698
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,239
Speaker 1: Connor Williams snaps. And I mean he did work out.

699
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean you're absolutely right about that. He didn't work

700
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Speaker 1: out for the Saints, you know, as as a center.

701
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, and and we've seen in some training camp practices.

702
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Speaker 1: I remember watching Zach Martin the US take some snaps

703
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: and stuff. So yeah, Connor Williams seemed like a pretty

704
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Speaker 1: good fit for that. So yeah, I kind of I

705
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Speaker 1: would just seem like that Connor Williams is gonna be

706
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: your start at left Martin Martin is going to be

707
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Speaker 1: the backup there. You know, that's the best way forward,

708
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Speaker 1: I think. And maybe Lyle Collins could be a better

709
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Speaker 1: left guard. But yeah, if you spent the top and

710
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: they said at the press conference that they see him

711
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: as an interior O lineman. So there's telling you they

712
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: spent a top fifty pick on a guard. Yeah, he

713
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: should be good enough that the drop off isn't so

714
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Speaker 1: severe that they need to move Lyle. I guess. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just plugging him right in and going, I got you,

716
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Speaker 1: can't anything else anybody else? Yeah, we got Roman in Georgia. Roman,

717
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Speaker 1: go ahead up. Hey, good afternoon, guys. I just want

718
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Speaker 1: to echo what the previous two callers had had said

719
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: about two guys doing such an awesome job calling in

720
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Speaker 1: for a few years. Sure, it's the first time I've

721
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Speaker 1: called in on the Draft show. Thank you. And I

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Speaker 1: want to point out something. Two comments. One compliment for

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Speaker 1: David Hellman, a tiny Jim Yeah. Just you know, I

724
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Speaker 1: want to say, over the last couple of years, what

725
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: ton people might call I know you've referred to yourself

726
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,720
Speaker 1: as kind of a negative Nancy. I call that devil's advocate,

727
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Speaker 1: and I agree with that two Collars ago where he

728
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: said you bring out the best in Brian, I think

729
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: the way you your brutal and I would call it

730
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: brutal honesty. Sure, and then Devil's Advocate that he plays,

731
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Speaker 1: I think brings out the best in in Nick and

732
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: Mickey and you, Brian, I think it adds so much

733
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Speaker 1: to the show. So, David, you've done a great job

734
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Speaker 1: the last few years. Thanks man, I really appreciate. My

735
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Speaker 1: question is I know Mickey has brought out since Dezin's release,

736
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Speaker 1: how many times has Nick NICKI brought up the point, well,

737
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Speaker 1: now that Dez is gone, who's going to be that guy?

738
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Speaker 1: The defenses say, you know, we've got to know where

739
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: he is on the field at all times. We're going

740
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: to put our best guy on him, or they're going

741
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: to double team him to stretch the defense, make them

742
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: play honest so that they don't load seven or eight

743
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: men in the box and say we dare you to

744
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: beat us through the air because we're not really worried

745
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: about it. And I know at the end of last year, Brian,

746
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: how many times did you comment on Dez's game performance? Yes,

747
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 1: the uncharacteristic I would say, um characteristic amount of drops,

748
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: even Beasley's. Even Beasley, who is normally mister reliable for

749
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: the few catches that he gets throughout the year, has

750
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: always been mister reliable. There was a lot of uncharacteristic

751
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: drops throughout the course of the end of the season.

752
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: I felt, Now, my question is is there any reason why, well,

753
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: thank you, oh hey, losing there. I don't know. Maybe

754
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: just Kenny. Maybe the defense say, you know what, we've

755
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: got to know where he is because if we don't

756
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: keep an eye on him, he's going to burn us.

757
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: Who won this wide receiver cord or do you feel

758
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: has the potential to be that guy to keep the

759
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: defenses from loading seven or eight men on the box

760
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: and making and given Ezekiel a hard day? All Right,

761
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: thank you very much, Roman, appreciate all your words. Seeing

762
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: that a lot. And maybe I'm being too simplistic, but

763
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: load the box. I want you to. I think they

764
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,719
Speaker 1: played against loaded box when they win thirteen games. They

765
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: did well. Honestly, the for this receiver core to work,

766
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: you want a loaded box like you have first round

767
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 1: picks all across your line and an all pro running back.

768
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: That's what you want teams to do. You want him

769
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: to load up and say throw against us, because that's

770
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: how Cole Beasley winds up in single coverage, and that's

771
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: how you get favorable matchups on the outside, is that

772
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: they overcompensate to stop the run. And honestly, if Connor

773
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: Williams is what he's supposed to be, this team should

774
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: be able to run again stack boxes. I'm gonna tell

775
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: you there's two guys, and Dank correct me if I'm wrong. Well,

776
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: I'll comment. Tell, Okay, talk about Michael Gallup and what

777
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: you think about him as a route runner. I'm trying

778
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: to find a guy on this team that will separate.

779
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: You know that can be that guy? I know, I

780
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: know that that Thompson I think he can separate. I mean,

781
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: I watch him play. I watched him motaate. But I

782
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: want to I want to hear what you think about

783
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: Michael Gallop because I think he's the one guy you

784
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: got that really can't separate. Yeah, I think so too.

785
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: And you know he's not going to blow you away

786
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: from his size speed standpoint, and so he has to

787
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: maximize his skill set and he does that. He's very

788
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: detailed and what I love about when I watched him,

789
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: every step has a purpose. You know, there's no waste

790
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: that steps out there. If he's taking a jab at

791
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: the off the line, is trying to beat pressed. If

792
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: he's trying to, you know, go twelve steps down the

793
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: line before he makes his cuts. I mean, he knows

794
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: exactly what he's doing, very calculated, but he's not. At

795
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: the same time, he's not slow with what he's doing.

796
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: He's not explosive, but he's not slow. So I really

797
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: like him as a as a route runner. Very subtle

798
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: with the way he uses tempo, the way he uses patients.

799
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: So a big fan of what he can do because again,

800
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: not gonna blow you away from a size speed standpoint,

801
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,720
Speaker 1: but he's crafty and he works hard at his craft

802
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: and I think that shows on tape, and I think

803
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 1: it'll show as a rookie because we talk a lot

804
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: about how wide receivers. That's a position that takes the

805
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: longest transition historically for rookies because they're not used to

806
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: facing you know, Jalen Ramsey and Patrick Peterson and these

807
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,320
Speaker 1: big cornerbacks press them, snap in, snap out, they're not

808
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: really used to that. But I think Michael Gallop he

809
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: is experienced enough and he's polished enough where he's going

810
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: to have his struggles as a rookie, but it won't

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00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: be as pronounced as some of these other rookies. Yeah see,

812
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: I think he man, you hit the nail on the

813
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: head of this guy. This is to me that that's

814
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: the one guy I was trying. Hey, give me a

815
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: guy or two that can separate. Give me somebody that doesn't.

816
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: You know, Alan Hurns, I've said this song, I think

817
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: and Herns is very similar Route Runners what you saw

818
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: from Dez Bryant, right. I think he's you know, maybe

819
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: has a little bit better experience as far as getting

820
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 1: open and you know it does. We've seen some good,

821
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: we've seen some bad. But you know, Hearns I think

822
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: is you know I kind of always said, hey, he's

823
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: the same guy Michael Gallop and Thompson to me, even

824
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson to a little bit of a point. You know,

825
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson, if you watch him play at Boise, a

826
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: lot across the field, a lot of like lines up

827
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Speaker 1: wide right and then all of a sudden, is all

828
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: the way across the field up in the you know,

829
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Speaker 1: on a on a post a post pattern ball down

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00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: the field to him. I think he's got some separation

831
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: to him as well. But Gallup is the one. He's

832
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: the one that you could say, Okay, that's the guy

833
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: that can separate. That's the guy that's gonna make some plays.

834
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: That's the guy that's gonna present some problems, you know,

835
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Speaker 1: once he gets going, because again he's gonna need some experience,

836
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: but he has he has the ability to be a

837
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: guy that can run some routes like that. I got

838
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: a couple of points I want to hit. Do we

839
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: need to take a break from Yeah, let's t take

840
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: a break again. We'll take your calls too as we

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Speaker 1: go along. Eight eight eight eight five five two two

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Speaker 1: Dave you said you had some Yeah, And I have

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Speaker 1: one that I really want to get to because I

889
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: think it's a very fair point from Kuran here on Twitter. Um.

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00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: You know, I think we all feel really good about

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00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: this draft. This has been you know, very positively looked

892
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: at um in our circles. But I think it's worth

893
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: it to look at the downside. Which so the question is,

894
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, what, what are the Cowboys going to do?

895
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: What can the Cowboys do about safety? And are you

896
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: content with the next man up philosophy in the sense that, hey,

897
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: I get it, the draft doesn't always work the way

898
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Speaker 1: you want it to. You got to make some tough decisions,

899
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: but they did not address a position that was looked

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00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: at as a need going in. So how do you

901
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: feel about that? I think that to me, they have

902
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: a lot of faith, a lot a lot of faith

903
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Speaker 1: in what's going on with their current safety group, and

904
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm I'm curious, I'm curious what they would they would

905
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: they feel like though that I'm trying to say this

906
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: in a way, would you do you feel like if

907
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: you needed a you got Woozy as a starter? Yeah?

908
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 1: At left corner? Right? That mean, isn't that I spent

909
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: the last month and a half terrified that they were

910
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: going to mess up a good thing with the O

911
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: line now I'm terrified they're going to mess up a

912
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 1: good thing with their secondary because they didn't get a safety.

913
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: And that's basically Stephen and Jerry Jones said, you know,

914
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: we really good about Xavier Woods, but we're we can

915
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: look within this team if we have to, meaning that

916
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: Byron Jones and Cheetah Woozier both have the flexibility to

917
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: play safety. And from the sounds of it, you know,

918
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: when they go through these twelve or fifteen spring practices,

919
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: if they don't like what they see, they could consider

920
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: tinkering with the lineup, which I don't like. Yeah, and look,

921
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: it wasn't it was a year ago right around this

922
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: time when we were so stoked about Xavier Woods being

923
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: Privas team. Yeah right, so you know, I know a

924
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: little bit as worn off, but let's not forget what

925
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: we thought of him coming out of college and what

926
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: he could be. So, you know what, I'm eager to

927
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: see what he could be as a full time free safety,

928
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: you know, giving him more consistent reps deposition. So while

929
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of the half glass full approach,

930
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: but you know it's I'm excited to see Xavier Woods

931
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: and what he can do. I and I agree. I

932
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: mean I've said this before, like I'm not trying to

933
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,879
Speaker 1: hate on the guy, I really, I mean he could

934
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: be a really good player. But you don't see teams

935
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: just not address something like and honestly, like we roll

936
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: our eyes so much. But even if they just wanted

937
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: to bring in like a Robert Blanton, like a journeyman

938
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: veteran who has some experience starting like right, they have

939
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: three safeties on the roster right now, and usually you

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Speaker 1: have like six going into a training camp. Do they

941
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: this is gonna sound crazy, dude, you know, you look

942
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: at you look at their situation. Dude, they put Jamille Showers.

943
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: I mean it's okay. I mean he's there, you know,

944
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: and then Huff you know, as as another guy. I'm

945
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: just talking about down the line guys. I know it's

946
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 1: not starter type guys, but do you know do they

947
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: want it? Do they want to fully give Xavier Woods

948
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: a chance with he's gonna happen? Because I don't think

949
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna go but I don't think they're gonna go

950
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: and get one of these guys like not now. Yeah,

951
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm not closing the door on that.

952
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: And I mean again, when you said that and I

953
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: and I mean, I said, you know, it just doesn't

954
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: seem like that it's the route that they want to go. No, no,

955
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: it's absolutely not the route they want because this is

956
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: this is when guys get signed. This is when guys

957
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: like does Brian after the draft it was like, okay,

958
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: well we need to get mine. And I said this,

959
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 1: I mean, when did Rolando McLean join this team the

960
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: year he was good June July? I mean like that,

961
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: the um they've made ow justin Durant last year. I mean,

962
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 1: it's in a spot of it's a spot of need. Um.

963
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 1: I just don't see them going that route though. After

964
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: I don't think they want to, But maybe they're gonna

965
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: look at what's going on with the OTAs and say, wow,

966
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: we cannot That's exactly what we cannot play without one

967
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: of these guys. Nobody that I can think of in

968
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 1: the last five years has a bigger opportunity than Xavier

969
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: Woods does these next two months. Because if he goes

970
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 1: out at OTAs and blows him away and just looks

971
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: like the guy, yeah, then he's the guy. And maybe

972
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: maybe they'll bring in somebody for depth. But otherwise, then

973
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: I think they're going to find a way to bring

974
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: some competition in here by August. That. I mean, that's

975
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: just me trying to read between the lines. But it

976
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: is curious that, like I said, you usually, even if

977
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: it's just a vet minimum signing, you usually see this

978
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 1: team do something to bolster the competition there, and they

979
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: just have not done that. Did you do a report

980
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: on a kid named Tyree Robertson from Oregon? Did you

981
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: see him? I did? Well. I actually, can we talk

982
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: about cam Kelly first? Yeah, that's okay that I'm asking

983
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: because cam Kelly. Okay, again, cam Kelly is rumored to

984
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,280
Speaker 1: be a guy who is is going to be signed

985
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: as one of the undrafted and he kind of looks

986
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: like a safety either way. Physically, he looks like a safety. Yeah.

987
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: He played strong safety for for the Aztecs first few years,

988
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: played that war position right before they moved him the

989
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: corner as a senior. He is so physical to the

990
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 1: line of screen. Yeah, it's I'm saying puff aggressive. I

991
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: mean I think it put up my report. He looks

992
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: like he's trying to steal their lunch money. Yeah. The

993
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 1: other way, Oh no, I had like a fifth, sixth

994
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: round grade. Yeah, okay, fan of him and what he

995
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: could do as a tackler. I don't know if he

996
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: has the the quick twitch at the top of routes

997
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: where he can stay with receivers and that kind of thing.

998
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 1: But I mean, you got to see what he could do. Uh,

999
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: if we might have something with m cam kelly, if

1000
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: he could believe Um. But do you think but you

1001
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: said he played safety at San Diego State, right, Yes,

1002
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 1: first three years he played safety, and then he moved

1003
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,800
Speaker 1: outside the corner, he played inside and the nickel, so

1004
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: they moved him around as kind of a versatile defensive back. Okay,

1005
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: and then I'm asking you about and again I didn't

1006
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: I hope I didn't put you on the spot about

1007
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: because it appears that a young man Tyree Robinson, the

1008
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 1: from Oregon who's more of a free se or safety

1009
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: free state. I don't know where his he fits on

1010
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 1: your grand scheme of things. Yeah. No, I'm looking at

1011
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: my notes on Tyree Robinson played a lot of single

1012
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: high He looks small, Uh, doesn't anticipate in coverage, waits

1013
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: for the play to unfold before attack, plays on his

1014
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: heels and coverage. Yeah, ranks, low tackler, good hand, strength

1015
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: of hook, and finish accurate strike zone. So it sounds

1016
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: like a I had him as more of a better

1017
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: run defender, bryan coverage guy, which I think this team

1018
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: has plenty of m But you know we'll see it

1019
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: because he did play a lot of free for Oregon. Yeah, okay,

1020
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: I'm just gotta that's just saying if he's a single

1021
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: high guy. If he's a single high guy, that makes

1022
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: a lot of sense for how they play their scheme.

1023
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: I did not I did not see him, So I

1024
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: was looking at his measurables. Uh you see the short

1025
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: on tape. I got it from Oregon Pro Day six

1026
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 1: zoo two two two two one last reading for the year. Yeah,

1027
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: but but his times were four to five, four four

1028
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: five eight thirty seven a half vertical ten ten on

1029
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 1: the broad jump twenty shuttle was four three four sixty,

1030
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 1: shuttle was eleven fifty five three cone was seven one zero,

1031
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: So you know we'll see. But yeah, he was six

1032
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: two two h two is and his speed if you

1033
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: split it would be four or five six. So that

1034
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: was a guy. It sound like he's the one guy

1035
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: that they are they're looking at as a potential potential

1036
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: free safety. And then and then Dane also brought up

1037
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: the fact that Cam Kelly and I don't disagree with

1038
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: you about the physicality of cam Kelly. I think that

1039
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: he's a I think he would be a guy that

1040
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: I immediately would put over there and say, Okay, you know,

1041
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 1: go go learn how to play safety, young man. Yeah,

1042
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: you know. And he played that war position for the Aztecas.

1043
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: He was moved around a lot. Yeah, sure was, And

1044
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 1: so I think that gives you some optimism that he

1045
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 1: could potentially find a fit and you know he's gonna

1046
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna bring on special teams. He's a physical, physical kid.

1047
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 1: He played quarterback in high school. Uh somewhere in Texas,

1048
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: I believe, so, Uh he's still relatively new to the position. Yeah, okay, David,

1049
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: I got a thought, Well, we've covered so much of it,

1050
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: but I would argue the forgotten man in this year's

1051
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: draft class as a dude by the name of Chris Covington. Yeah.

1052
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: You went right up to your office after the draft,

1053
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 1: was I did, started watching tape of my guy here.

1054
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: So just give us a follow up on the Indiana linebacker. Yeah,

1055
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: you know what he's six two two forty five four

1056
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: seven eight is the speed. I think that the thing

1057
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: I liked. I thought he had some good reactions to

1058
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: the ball. He will come forward to deliver a blow.

1059
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 1: He plays along the line pretty square. He was aware

1060
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: of his assignment, what was going on around him. He

1061
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: will he will show you a little burst out of

1062
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: his back pedal when he dropped in coverage and zone coverage.

1063
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: I saw a guy that would drive on the football.

1064
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 1: I like the way he moved. He didn't look jerky

1065
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: or hesitant or anything like that. He doesn't get hung up,

1066
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, with stuff. I feel like I felt like

1067
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: he was a pretty good wrap up tackler. He could

1068
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: get outside because of his ability to make a tackle.

1069
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: I like that. There are times though he gets caught

1070
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: on the wrong side of the ball. You will watch him,

1071
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: you know, with as good as his movement skill is,

1072
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: you will see like all of a sudden, he's like

1073
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 1: he's coming forward and he's like, oh no, I'm trapped,

1074
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: and he knows it, and that happens to him. I'm

1075
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: not gonna say quite a bit, but they're like once

1076
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: every three or four plays, you'll see him get caught

1077
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: in the wrong spot. But is you know, and because

1078
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: his initial movement is to go to the ball and

1079
00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: then it's like, oh, I shouldn't, I should be over

1080
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: on the other side. But he can close from the backside.

1081
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: I like the way he played with his hands. He

1082
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: has to be careful not to overrun the play too.

1083
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: That's another one of his issues. I'd like to see

1084
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: him redirect a little bit better. And it can be

1085
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 1: a little steps slow in coverage, but he worked through

1086
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: the trash. Okay that he was having a deal with

1087
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: the watched Ohio State, Michigan State in Wisconsin. So some

1088
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: pretty good, you know, physical teams upfront, and he was

1089
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: physical right with him. It's probably gonna be a special

1090
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 1: teams guy for you. But again that the movement is

1091
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: not bad. Just worry a little bit about him getting

1092
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: caught on the wrong side of the play. There you

1093
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: go like that, Yeah, oh it sounds about right where

1094
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 1: where you're drafting him. Well, I mean, he was the

1095
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: one guy that I did not have on my board

1096
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: and the red and I'll tell you this, I was

1097
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: going through all of Danes. I wanted to make sure

1098
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 1: I had every one of Dane's draft stable players. I

1099
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: had watched everyone of Danes draftable players. That's always a

1100
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: goal of mine. And he was there, and he was ranked.

1101
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: He was the last PFA right the first PA. He

1102
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: was the first PFA. So I didn't get if I'd

1103
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: have gone one more guy down, then I would have

1104
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: I would have had him all next year. You gotta

1105
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,439
Speaker 1: do the top five pfas and I guess, I guess,

1106
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: but it got me. Always get back. Always yeah, if

1107
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: you always, if you look at his draftable guys, you're

1108
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna have a pretty good board. Well, let

1109
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: me ask you what you know it's hard to do

1110
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,399
Speaker 1: this like a will linebacker? Well, like what great would

1111
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: you have put on him? If you you know, oh,

1112
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 1: I thought where he I thought more? Probably would have

1113
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: put him in the sixth round. If I look at

1114
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: the guys who were down there are those outside linebackers

1115
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: that were down on the bottom of the board. I had,

1116
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: like guys like Bellamy Left, I had sky More down there,

1117
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: I had who else I have that those are the

1118
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,480
Speaker 1: only two guys that I had that were really that

1119
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 1: were worth it. But he would have been he would

1120
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: have been right down there in that range with those guys.

1121
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: Question from Derek, which I feel really good. I feel

1122
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: like the tone of this show suggested that linebacker would

1123
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 1: be the pick at nineteen. We weren't necessarily always sure

1124
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: which one it would be, which leads me. I mean,

1125
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 1: Rashaun Evans from Alabama was taken twenty two, so it

1126
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: was right in that range of what we thought too.

1127
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: But what do you think they saw in Layton Vanderesh

1128
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: that prompted them to pick him over Evans? What's the

1129
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: one word I keep using with him. He's an as

1130
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: sending player. He's getting better and better, and I think

1131
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: just the versatility he can play Mike, you play Sam

1132
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: could play well, could play any single one of those positions.

1133
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: That's key with with Evans, I think you worry a

1134
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: little bit about what is his position? Yeah, can you

1135
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 1: play all three positions interchangeably? Where with Vanderesh, I don't

1136
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: think you worry about that. I think you feel good

1137
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: he can do it. And then just again, when you

1138
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 1: watch his tape chronologically from the start of the season

1139
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: to the end of the season, I just me speaking

1140
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: about when I was doing it. I became so much

1141
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,239
Speaker 1: more optimistic about him as a player. When you take

1142
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 1: everything into account, where he came from, his background, the

1143
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: fact that he was banged up as in two, sixteen,

1144
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: ten and seventeen his first real true starting reps, and

1145
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,360
Speaker 1: then he just got better and better and better, And

1146
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 1: so that gives me a lot of optimism moving forward

1147
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: for him. And the fact that I don't even think

1148
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: he's close to his ceiling, like he still has a

1149
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: ways to go where he's going to get better and better.

1150
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: I think the phrase he's only going to get better

1151
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: is overused and very often untrue, but with him, I

1152
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: do see him getting better and better as he sees

1153
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 1: more reps, he's more snaps. I'm very eager. If I'm

1154
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan, I am excited about lating Vanderesh. Think

1155
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: I think he hit the nail on the head. I

1156
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 1: think that there were more questions about where where to

1157
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: play Evans. I think they were thinking, Okay, is he

1158
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: is he? Really? Is he just a will? Can he

1159
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: be a Mike? I mean I think that I think

1160
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: they liked the player. Obviously they brought him in, but

1161
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: I felt like with vander Esh, they they have an

1162
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: idea where they want to do with him, and maybe

1163
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: as an idea of what they want to do with

1164
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith. Well, now, and that's okay, that's another question

1165
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: we got that ties into that. Yeah, and I mean

1166
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 1: we've talked about it, but whatever we're wrapping up. Just

1167
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: how do you see Layton being used here in his

1168
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: first year same as a mic linebacker, don't you? From

1169
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 1: day one? I think he's got an excellent chance to

1170
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 1: be the starting mike. Yeah, I think there might be

1171
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: a little bit of a competition there. You know, him

1172
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: and Jalen are gonna get reps and you're gonna see it,

1173
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, it's gonna turn into

1174
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: Jaalen's gonna start getting reps with Sam linebacker, you know,

1175
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 1: or maybe Layton Vanderis will get reps at s Sam linebacker.

1176
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: You don't you think it's as easy as just sailing

1177
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: saying Jalen will wind up at Sam though. I think that.

1178
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: I think that if you look at the progression of him,

1179
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 1: I think the way he plays physically along the line,

1180
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: and the fact that they want to use him as

1181
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: a pass rusher, that's kind of his more better of

1182
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: a strength at his than it would be to be

1183
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: as a drop guy. So yeah, I kind of feel

1184
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: like that they'll say, Okay, we'll keep all our linebacker

1185
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 1: on the field, but we'll use one of them. You kick,

1186
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: you kick somebody inside, you kick, you know, or maybe

1187
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: you take Crawford off the field. Yeah, you know, and

1188
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 1: you got one of those one of those rush guys

1189
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 1: depend on. Hey, you never know, Cony Ealy, one of

1190
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: these guys, you know, makes a team. Maybe the health

1191
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 1: of u Tappers better see what happens. But yeah, I

1192
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 1: kind of feel like that they'll take Jalen and make

1193
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: him a rush and not have to put him in

1194
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: a lot of drop situations. I think, even with the

1195
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: concerns about Jalen's health, and you know, we'll see how

1196
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: quickly uh Layton vander esh adapts. Yeah, but this is

1197
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 1: as good as the Cowboys linebacker corps looked on paper,

1198
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: and well it was. It was a bad it was

1199
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: a bad situation though, but pre draft that was something

1200
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: that we've kind of felt like, that's a testament to

1201
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: the pick. I think. Yeah, and then I mean you

1202
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: add to it with Covington and Joe Thomas, I think

1203
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: is a solid free agent signing Damian Wilson. You know,

1204
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: if if they were going to try him to be

1205
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 1: a starter. I think he would have shown that more

1206
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: by now, but it's still a good depth piece to have.

1207
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 1: And then you've got three. I mean, you have an

1208
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: all pro in one spot and then two highly athletic

1209
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: players with huge upside filling the other two spots. I mean,

1210
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: even in twenty fourteen when Rolando had such a great

1211
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: year at MIKE, remember Sean Lee didn't play that whole year, right,

1212
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: So if all three of these guys can play and

1213
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: contribute at even a good level, let a lot, great,

1214
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's about as good as we've seen here.

1215
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: I think they're going to keep their eye to eye

1216
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: on the waiver wires and stuff. I think they're gonna

1217
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: keep their eyes on other teams for cuts and stuff

1218
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 1: like that, idea to see kind of if there's a

1219
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: young guy there that they can camp. So, okay, we'll

1220
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: listen to We're running out of time here, but I

1221
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: do I want to take the last a few seconds

1222
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: that we have again to thank everybody out there for

1223
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 1: falling along with us. I kind of gave my scouting

1224
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: report about everything, my assessment. I do want to thank

1225
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 1: this guy to my right for all he's done. He

1226
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: means a lot to our organization. M v P. Yeah,

1227
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: because of what he does. I say this and I

1228
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 1: pray this is the year. I don't want to lose

1229
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: this guy, but he deserves to scout in the National

1230
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: Football League. He's got a great eye for talent. He's

1231
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: a very calm individual. He's great to work with. He

1232
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: gives great opinions. And Dame Brugo, I can't thank you

1233
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: enough for all the things you've done for us to

1234
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 1: make this program better. It has to be part of

1235
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: part of the team with you guys. It's been fun. Yeah,

1236
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: you know how many years is this for us now?

1237
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: For we started in fourteen, So yeah, this is our

1238
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: fifth draft. I thought it is our fifth d Yeah,

1239
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: so it's about time for you to go off and

1240
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: do something else. And David Helmet, I want to thank you.

1241
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,479
Speaker 1: Like everybody's talked about, You've grown a lot with this role,

1242
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: as far as you know, making us have to think,

1243
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: making us have to answer questions, and having your own

1244
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: opinions as well. So I appreciate that. I'm happy. I'll

1245
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: let me come on for the ride, because lord knows,

1246
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: I don't have five hundred scouting reports. We'll get you

1247
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: there one day. Kate Garrison also thank I want to

1248
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 1: thank him as well. And he's a he's got us

1249
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: on the road, a lot of places always hooked us up.

1250
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: Make sure the draft show was online. We appreciate all

1251
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: his contributions and also though Tokayden and Dave in the

1252
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: TV area. Thank you guys as well. Thank you brought us.

1253
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you Miller Light as well. Okay, guys,

1254
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: well listen, that's the draft show for the twenty eighteen

1255
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. We'll be back. We're gonna come back for

1256
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: open weeks, Halloween, Halloween weekend. Yeah this guy, Yeah exactly,

1257
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: We'll go. So make sure you're keep studying the tape,

1258
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: keep investigating. We'll keep educating if you guys, take care

1259
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: and again, thanks for everything you did for us. See

1260
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 1: you letter. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys

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