Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The
Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Miles. We
Speaker 1: are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
Speaker 1: a writer, media critic, host of a couple podcasts. You
Speaker 1: Are Good, a feelings podcast about movies, and the classic
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Speaker 1: the world at interrogating the myths and narratives we use
Speaker 1: to define ourselves in the world around us. Please welcome
Speaker 1: the brilliant and talented Sarah Marshall.
Speaker 2: What a crazy intro. I feel so pumped up. I
Speaker 2: feel like I want to be one of those kids
Speaker 2: running onto the stage of Maury and.
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't care much?
Speaker 3: Yeah yet did you ever do an episode about that?
Speaker 2: He really should? I was just thinking this morning. One
Speaker 2: of the things I find most fascinating is the question
Speaker 2: of like the inner workings of a nineties daytime talk show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like, my god.
Speaker 3: Right, because I mean like I feel like we got
Speaker 3: the like the darkest glimpse after the Jenny Jones thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's when we started to be.
Speaker 1: Like, oh no, no, what was.
Speaker 5: The actings have Consequences Jenny Jones one was where they
Speaker 5: outed one of their guests for being in love with
Speaker 5: this other man, right, and then the guy was murdered.
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna be iffy on the details, but yeah,
Speaker 2: and I don't think they aired the episode, but right
Speaker 2: they they did facilitate a murder there.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know.
Speaker 2: You're wrong about as big on the Satanic panic and
Speaker 2: they were such a big part of that other wonderful things. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a real accelerant to the like the wet cardboard and
Speaker 2: the mushroom growing experience a my college metaphor, that's.
Speaker 1: Where we are whischh we are? Yeah, I was going
Speaker 1: to ask for the best micology metaphors you could call
Speaker 1: it what. Yeah, we've talked about You're wrong about a
Speaker 1: lot on this podcast, especially around human trafficking, and uh,
Speaker 1: it's just I think the foremost debunker of bullshit myths,
Speaker 1: and our show pedals bullshit. I mean, it's what we do.
Speaker 1: We love to know. We also like to bust bullshit
Speaker 1: myths when we're heads up enough to catch them. But
Speaker 1: so we wanted to just have you back on the
Speaker 1: show and go through some of the stories you've covered,
Speaker 1: some of your favorites, some of our favorites that we
Speaker 1: just want to make sure our listeners are aware of
Speaker 1: because it's a great show and.
Speaker 2: I'm so happy to be This is so lovely and
Speaker 2: I'm I'm so happy that we're in your zeitgeist. And
Speaker 2: it's a really it's like a lovely and bleak and
Speaker 2: lovely distinction to hold when it's like, you know, myth
Speaker 2: busting is one of the most important roles in society today.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, it truly is, Caitlin Drante. We do like to
Speaker 1: ask our guests, what is something from your search history?
Speaker 6: Okay, well, obviously I'm looking at Shrek stuff and I
Speaker 6: found out slash. I think someone told me, someone damned
Speaker 6: me on Instagram and told me about something called Shrek's Adventure,
Speaker 6: which is like a I don't think it's quite a
Speaker 6: theme park, but it's like some sort of attraction in London,
Speaker 6: and I will be going to London on said Bechdel
Speaker 6: cast tour, and we're doing the Shrek Tannic Tour, AKA,
Speaker 6: we're covering Shrek and Titanic on this tour, so I
Speaker 6: have to be going to Shrek's Adventure. And then that
Speaker 6: sent me down a rabbit hole and I discovered that
Speaker 6: there's a whole section of Universal Studios in Singapore called
Speaker 6: Far Far Away, so there's a whole Shrek theme park basically,
Speaker 6: and so I just have to go to all of
Speaker 6: these places. So I was just googling and doing some research,
Speaker 6: looking at the photos, and so that's my recent s
Speaker 6: urch history.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if Shrek is popular in France, is.
Speaker 7: It in any way comparable to the other live experience
Speaker 7: that has been getting a lot of press recently and
Speaker 7: that the man who put on said it quote unquote
Speaker 7: ruined his life.
Speaker 1: Oh of Caitlin's live show again.
Speaker 7: I was talking about that Willy Wonka man.
Speaker 8: That that truly that truly.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, the fire the Firefest of exact media.
Speaker 1: I mean not according to the website, it is not
Speaker 1: similar because these families in the photographs look very happy
Speaker 1: taking a picture next to a man in a Shrek
Speaker 1: rubber mask in front of Big potentially Shrek. Oh yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: my bad. Next to Shrek himself in front of Big Ben,
Speaker 1: just looking and waving at somebody in the sky off
Speaker 1: in the distance.
Speaker 6: Wow. Yeah, So I'm going to that and I'm going
Speaker 6: to have the best time.
Speaker 7: Will you wave to the sky for me when you go?
Speaker 6: Of course?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yes, sure.
Speaker 1: I feel like mileage may vary based on what country
Speaker 1: you're in, But Shrek is universal and international.
Speaker 6: Literally a property of Universal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's more universal. Did you get right? Actually just
Speaker 1: went to Universal Studios with my kids for the first
Speaker 1: time on Saturday morning.
Speaker 6: Did you go to the Mummy Ride?
Speaker 1: We? No, they we just we We hit the like
Speaker 1: it was poor and rain out. Highly recommend that go
Speaker 1: while it's poor and rain because then the lines are
Speaker 1: very short. And we hit the Simpsons ride.
Speaker 2: Did you go to water World the show?
Speaker 1: No, we had to like leave right before everybody. I know.
Speaker 1: But the theme, the concept of water World I mentioned.
Speaker 1: I was explaining it because I thought we were going
Speaker 1: to have time to do it. I explained it to
Speaker 1: my kids, not going. Yeah, my six year old like
Speaker 1: two days later was like, what was that movie? What
Speaker 1: was that world you were talking about where everything's like
Speaker 1: there's no land. It was like, Sun, you're talking about
Speaker 1: water World? And I can tell you are of me
Speaker 1: and mine kind, because yes that I remember when that
Speaker 1: shit came out. Man, like, oh my god, I was
Speaker 1: so excited, so bad that the world is water.
Speaker 6: It's water World. It is wild that you're bringing this
Speaker 6: up because this is very relevant to my overrated.
Speaker 1: What uh, Alex, what is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 4: So underrated? I want to shout out Cherry Coke zero. Okay,
Speaker 4: it's a fantastic And I thought about it for a
Speaker 4: weird reason because me and my buddy Katie Golden, we
Speaker 4: made like a weird TV recap podcast recently and we
Speaker 4: almost did it about a TV show called The Young Pope,
Speaker 4: which is not a very good show I remember years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and like ju Law is the Young Pope, And the
Speaker 4: one thing I always think about with that show is
Speaker 4: that his character was obsessed with Cherry Coke zero. So
Speaker 4: it's a show where like the Pope is going around
Speaker 4: the Vatican and before a meeting, he'll be like, where's
Speaker 4: my Cherry Coke zero? At one point, he just says,
Speaker 4: like cherry Coke zero and like a pounding his fist
Speaker 4: on the tableway, And unfortunately he is correct. It's a
Speaker 4: fantastic beverage. I want to have it all the time.
Speaker 4: I guess, I guess we're celebrating good Friday by talking
Speaker 4: about the Pope Cherry Coke zero.
Speaker 1: Good Friday.
Speaker 4: I have a good Friday, Friday, the best of Fridays.
Speaker 4: But it's great. It's a it's a step up from
Speaker 4: Coke zero. If you've only had that.
Speaker 9: Oh what do you think about the You know, coke
Speaker 9: is always experimenting, right, full disclosure. I am based in Atlanta, Georgia,
Speaker 9: and so we hear a lot weird coke stuff. We
Speaker 9: get our finger on the pulse, you know, we get
Speaker 9: the weird the why old swings sometimes just will show
Speaker 9: up in your neighborhood, like there was, for instance, recently,
Speaker 9: there was Coca Cola dream and I tried it right, yeah,
Speaker 9: And in their defense, they never said whether it was
Speaker 9: a good dream or not, but that was I was
Speaker 9: not the vibe for me, man. And they've got they've
Speaker 9: they've always got these new flavors coming out.
Speaker 5: So Cherry Coke zero that's one for you.
Speaker 4: Yes, I'm glad you bring up dream because I was
Speaker 4: not into that. The spiced coke is okay, it's just
Speaker 4: called spice. It's not a duing thing or whatever.
Speaker 5: And uh.
Speaker 4: And then at one point they did like seven fruit
Speaker 4: flavors of diet coke, and I was mostly not into those.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they very coke zero though as a.
Speaker 4: Winner, it's and it's pretty available. You don't have to
Speaker 4: be I assume you're you have some kind of Atlanta
Speaker 4: vault that you open up then and just grab it
Speaker 4: whenever you want.
Speaker 9: But I'm so plugged in. You know, we got retinal scans,
Speaker 9: We've got actually the Coca Cola Museum, which is heavy propaganda,
Speaker 9: just to be completely always. Yeah, yeah, if you've been there,
Speaker 9: there is the culmination of the tour is a Willy
Speaker 9: Wonka esque room where you can try, at least at
Speaker 9: the time I went, because all the kids take a
Speaker 9: field trip there. You can try every single flavor of
Speaker 9: beverage that the Coca Cola company makes. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 9: you know, there's some cinematography or a choreography of the soda,
Speaker 9: I would say, because it shoots across the room in
Speaker 9: an art.
Speaker 1: What.
Speaker 9: Yeah, and you're like amazed and you try.
Speaker 1: It sounds so sticky shooting through the air.
Speaker 9: Shout out to the custodial staff. Yeah, that's going to
Speaker 9: be rough around like six point thirty PM.
Speaker 1: Like that must be. They must be like recruiting custodians
Speaker 1: around the country, just like this guy's got talent. Like
Speaker 1: looking at close caption and CCTV footage of like people
Speaker 1: wiping up spills, being like, this guy's like a first
Speaker 1: round draft pick. We got to get him and coke
Speaker 1: Fountain Room.
Speaker 9: And they have PTSD from it. You know, they talk
Speaker 9: about they talk about.
Speaker 1: Their seen some shit.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 1: You know, Cherry Coke zero.
Speaker 5: I can't look at it.
Speaker 1: Cherry Coke zero. I've never purchased it outside of a
Speaker 1: movie theater, but it is my whatever that like universal
Speaker 1: Freestyle Coke machine is just as a system. Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: my god. Yeah. I go Coke zero and then I
Speaker 1: put the cherry in and it's bright red for some reason,
Speaker 1: And man, I love that there's like a bright red
Speaker 1: I mean, not the whole drink, but there is like
Speaker 1: a you know in the in the machine, there's like
Speaker 1: a portion of the stream that is bright red. So
Speaker 1: there's like some manner of like Cherry Zeru that's coming
Speaker 1: in that I think makes it different than the The
Speaker 1: Hot Poke Bottled Cherry Coke zero's version. The Hot Pope
Speaker 1: wasn't that. That wasn't that basically his the character was Yeah,
Speaker 1: what if what if the Pope fucked? Like it was?
Speaker 9: It was so weird because it went through like you
Speaker 9: sometimes you watch a show and you become very curious
Speaker 9: about the creative process in the writer's room, you know,
Speaker 9: And I thought maybe these guys just got real deep
Speaker 9: on Cherry Cope Zebra, or maybe they had like they
Speaker 9: were like, here's a checklist, or maybe maybe Jude Law
Speaker 9: came in and he was like, I will do this
Speaker 9: with the with the following eccentricities.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I'm not sure if that's the particular variety
Speaker 1: of coke that that show was written on, but yeah,
Speaker 1: right exactly, it's non negotiable.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 9: What a blast from the past. Man, But I can't
Speaker 9: it's unhinged. It is unhinged. It is unh it is
Speaker 9: it is freestyling.
Speaker 5: That's what they did.
Speaker 9: It is off the dome.
Speaker 1: What if there was a.
Speaker 5: Pope who was Jude Law? Drop the beat?
Speaker 1: You know, drop the beat now, Yeah, there is a
Speaker 1: fascination with Catholicism in like I think that was made
Speaker 1: by like a great filmmaker, like a European filmmaker. That
Speaker 1: was like people were there, yeah, an Italian filmmaker. Everyone
Speaker 1: was like, you know, this prison does not miss, Like
Speaker 1: what are they going to make next? HBO was like
Speaker 1: blank check, what do you want to make? And they're
Speaker 1: like a show about like what if what if Pope
Speaker 1: was young and kind of hot?
Speaker 9: That's the bitch, right, that's what they did.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But like Scorsese's making a new series for Fox Nation.
Speaker 1: We talked about this on yesterday's Trending. It's making a
Speaker 1: new series for the Fox, like the place where shows
Speaker 1: that were turned down by everybody else go to like
Speaker 1: have a brief afterlife, the Fox Nation, right, like the
Speaker 1: streaming platform. Scorsese's making a show about the Saints for
Speaker 1: that station, like are they hot? Are they hot? Saints?
Speaker 1: Probably hotter than you would expect, but unclear, and I
Speaker 1: just I don't. Yeah, the Catholicism when people are like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's like Pascal's wager is like, you know,
Speaker 1: religion can't be all bad and like what, what's the
Speaker 1: worst that can happen? You know, you just you go
Speaker 1: to heaven and it's like, well, no, you like waste
Speaker 1: a lot of good talent and energy on stuff could
Speaker 1: could have been otherwise, but who knows. Maybe hot Pope
Speaker 1: is uh is cool and I'm missing out.
Speaker 5: Sounds like I am.
Speaker 4: It's made by an Italian filmmaker, and then July is
Speaker 4: an English actor, right, but he's also playing an American
Speaker 4: pope like a lot of bitch is like what if
Speaker 4: the pope was hot and really young, so he's going
Speaker 4: to be pope for a long long time and American?
Speaker 4: What if these three crises strike?
Speaker 1: You know, and he.
Speaker 9: Is like cartoonishly new York really yeah, yeah, dude, hey,
Speaker 9: am the pope over here?
Speaker 1: Exactly that?
Speaker 4: And the drink I think the drink is maybe supposed
Speaker 4: to be a joke about Americans. I think he doesn't
Speaker 4: have coffee or tea or whatever, like he's looking for
Speaker 4: mourning cherry coke zero, right, So I think it's like
Speaker 4: kind of a It's like the joke on Arrested Development
Speaker 4: where the American themed restaurant has piles of doughnuts that
Speaker 4: no one could ever eat, like it's like kind of
Speaker 4: how dumb we are mourning.
Speaker 1: Cherry Coke zero is one of is in the Coke vault,
Speaker 1: but it's spelled m O U r n I n G.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to give you a feeling of foreboding and sadness. Yeah, slogan,
Speaker 1: pour one out, poor one out, directly into your mouth.
Speaker 1: What some of do you think is overrated?
Speaker 8: Right now? I'm gonna go with mental health.
Speaker 10: I just think being well mentally is overrated right now,
Speaker 10: at this point in my life and in time, I'm
Speaker 10: really just leaning into mental illness.
Speaker 8: Let's just let it go, you know, let's let's just
Speaker 8: lean it.
Speaker 10: Like if you're depressed, watch as many murder sad documentaries
Speaker 10: as you can. Let's just see what happens. That's you know,
Speaker 10: I just I feel like I'm a bit weak. I
Speaker 10: gave mental health the shot and let me just go
Speaker 10: the other way for a bit.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: For years, It's like I'm gonna just I've leaned one way,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna lean the other and see where I net.
Speaker 8: Out, see where I not out?
Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I've been watching so many things that
Speaker 10: are to improve myself or educate reading. No, no, you know,
Speaker 10: what I say, sat and I watched I binged a
Speaker 10: four episode documentary about some YouTuber I've never heard of
Speaker 10: in my life who like groomed a bunch of people.
Speaker 10: It was sad and dark, but I want it to Hey,
Speaker 10: I leaned in, Now I know about this person? Yeah,
Speaker 10: which I was gonna say, which, which which documentary? Because
Speaker 10: I feel like there's always a fucking documentary about YouTubers
Speaker 10: out a grooming people.
Speaker 1: I oh, I've.
Speaker 3: What is this?
Speaker 8: Like Osiren? Oh not?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 8: In real? Yeah, I had never heard of this guy.
Speaker 8: And the whole time I was like, what's his name? Oh, Ryan.
Speaker 1: Nyan?
Speaker 10: Yeah, And I felt like the oldest person in the
Speaker 10: world because everyone else was like he's very well known.
Speaker 3: It's so wild too, Like I do the same thing,
Speaker 3: Like it's weird when like I see something on the
Speaker 3: internet that has like millions of views and like just
Speaker 3: like youtubeer.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, what the fun I never heard of
Speaker 5: I've never heard of sun? What the fuck is this?
Speaker 5: But yeah, I know, yeah, I too have fallen down
Speaker 5: the oison.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, And that that broke me a bit mentally, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, and that he's like what I need mental
Speaker 1: health for what do I need a YouTube video?
Speaker 5: Did it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm off the cliff now, okay, Yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like I was like, sometimes I'm doing mental health wrong.
Speaker 1: But I'm when I'm focusing too much on how I'm feeling,
Speaker 1: I feel like I tend to you know, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like if I'm focusing, if I'm thinking
Speaker 1: about my mental health and thinking about how I'm feeling
Speaker 1: and how happy I am, like that fucks me up
Speaker 1: because is then if I feel bad.
Speaker 5: It's like you're sucking it.
Speaker 1: Feel bad about feeling bad, you know. Yeah. So yeah,
Speaker 1: just like not great.
Speaker 3: So that's why you just have to create. That's I
Speaker 3: just think of it more of like just putting yourself
Speaker 3: in the good of the right environment. Yeah, all the time,
Speaker 3: Like more so than being like, am I one thousand
Speaker 3: percent happy? Like ecstatic going off? I was like, no, man,
Speaker 3: I just need to make sure like I'm I'm in
Speaker 3: a good I'm always putting myself in the right environments,
Speaker 3: creating myself the right.
Speaker 10: You know what. I throw that all out the window
Speaker 10: and uh, just go just ball, do what you want
Speaker 10: to do. Just do it for the story.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't even think about how you feel how do
Speaker 1: you what do you want?
Speaker 8: How does it feel right now?
Speaker 7: Right?
Speaker 8: That's what's underrated.
Speaker 1: There, you go, all right that in oh while, obviously
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
Speaker 1: talk about the Supreme Court. What are those crazy kids
Speaker 1: getting up to? And we're back, and I think we
Speaker 1: already mentioned that you're wrong about is really you're really
Speaker 1: good with like moral panics, the satanic panic in particular,
Speaker 1: And yeah, it turns out the role of evangelical Christianity
Speaker 1: and some of our biggest social movements of the past
Speaker 1: half century. And you recently had an episode about the
Speaker 1: pro life movement that was surprising to me, Like I
Speaker 1: think you said this right off the bat that I
Speaker 1: was not expecting. You point out the pro life movement
Speaker 1: is younger than Jeff Bridges.
Speaker 8: This is how we mark age now.
Speaker 1: But it's yeah, like I guess it's specific, like there
Speaker 1: were people who were opposed to abortion before that, but
Speaker 1: the kind of concerned, cohesive, evangelical driven version kind of
Speaker 1: starts in nineteen seventy three, and it's part of this
Speaker 1: movement by evangelicals to be like, hey, so our values,
Speaker 1: people hate them. We're we've got bad values. We're we're
Speaker 1: pro segregation. Nobody else seems to like that very much.
Speaker 1: They're pretty uh, you know, they recognize that they're going
Speaker 1: the wrong way in terms of relevancy. They're in need
Speaker 1: of a real makeover exactly. And so yeah, they settle
Speaker 1: on abortion, which the most well known evangelical in the
Speaker 1: seventies was Jimmy Carter, which is like, that's not who
Speaker 1: I come to associate evangelicals with, But it was like
Speaker 1: a different time, and at that time you didn't necessarily
Speaker 1: like being super violently against people's right to have an
Speaker 1: abortion was not one of the first things you associated
Speaker 1: with evangelicals.
Speaker 2: No, or with the Republican Party. And I always love
Speaker 2: to cite the fact that Betty Ford famously was a
Speaker 2: pro choice Republican and that that was a coherent political
Speaker 2: position for the first lady to have at the time.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, And Jimmy Carter being an evangelical again, I'm.
Speaker 2: A social justice warrior. Some would say he loves building
Speaker 2: houses for people. Yeah, I feel like there's something that
Speaker 2: it is. Really it's interesting to reflect on maybe arguably
Speaker 2: what has been lost because this is not exactly my field,
Speaker 2: but many of my fields brush up against it, and
Speaker 2: the history of evangelicism in America really connects to the
Speaker 2: idea that God really is of and for the people,
Speaker 2: and that prayer is about direct communication and with the
Speaker 2: divine and that you deserve to have a connection to
Speaker 2: the Holy Spirit without there needing to be some kind
Speaker 2: of conduit. So it really is, in a way, another
Speaker 2: wave of you know, the various religious reformations that we've
Speaker 2: seen throughout history that have made Christianity more and more egalitarian,
Speaker 2: and there's there's historically been a lot of potential for
Speaker 2: good in that and still is. But it's just that,
Speaker 2: you know, evangelical Christianity in twenty twenty four, I think
Speaker 2: is absolutely synonymous with the unbelievably sinister, the acratic, kleptocratic,
Speaker 2: fascist dictatorship that we're now basically living in. So that's
Speaker 2: really fun, that's nice.
Speaker 1: They really did not see it going that wave, like
Speaker 1: I guess I did, because.
Speaker 2: We it's the compliment sandwich. You know, you got to
Speaker 2: start with the good and then you're like, now we
Speaker 2: have some news we have we.
Speaker 1: Do about how things have gone since then. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean you point out that one point, I forget if
Speaker 1: it was that episode or not. But just if you
Speaker 1: look at what the evangelical movement has done over the
Speaker 1: past forty years in our lifetime, it's kind of what
Speaker 1: paranoid eras of the US, you like, accused communists of doing.
Speaker 1: You know, that there was going to be this secret takeover,
Speaker 1: that they were going to secretly infiltrate our Supreme Court,
Speaker 1: and like.
Speaker 2: They have failed to infiltrate the media, which is nice,
Speaker 2: you know. Interestingly, there's nothing conservatives are worse at than
Speaker 2: making media.
Speaker 1: Yeah. They tried turning their hat around backwards, turning the
Speaker 1: chair around backwards, they tried everything. You still can't get man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, and then it's kind of what they accused
Speaker 1: Satanists of doing in the eighties, like secretly, yeah, and.
Speaker 2: What they're accusing you know, all these drag queen groomers
Speaker 2: of doing. Now, there's a very in any kind of
Speaker 2: abusive relationship where you think that your user has more
Speaker 2: complicated motives than you ultimately realize that they do. It's
Speaker 2: I think largely a projection game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, And it seems like so many of the
Speaker 3: moral panics too, like they're like, you know, like all
Speaker 3: the ones we've mentioned, even human trafficking. They're just sort
Speaker 3: of like built on people's inability or like unwillingness to
Speaker 3: examine actual systemic forces, and it's just much easier to
Speaker 3: chalk it up to like, yeah, it's this other thing, man,
Speaker 3: it's these Satanists that are going that are freaking out.
Speaker 3: It's like, it's not that there's inequality, is that there
Speaker 3: are these flash rob mobs where they just go through
Speaker 3: and steal everything and it's a crime wave and it
Speaker 3: just allows, I don't know, for people to sort of
Speaker 3: neatly put some kind of larger issue into a problem
Speaker 3: that doesn't quite actually get to the root of the cause.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been fascinated by slasher movies for a long time,
Speaker 2: and I think that they do a weirdly great job
Speaker 2: of illustrating this very i think kind of core piece
Speaker 2: of American folklore, where you know, he was Friday the
Speaker 2: thirteenth as the er example, like some kind of like
Speaker 2: the traditional slasher template is that somebody is wronged in
Speaker 2: the past, Jason drowns because the counselors weren't paying attention
Speaker 2: to making that boy drowned, and then some kind of
Speaker 2: force avenging the wronged party shows up in the present
Speaker 2: and innocent teens who are simply you know, smoking a
Speaker 2: joint or making out suffer, and there the sort of
Speaker 2: arc of it is that you can sort of momentarily
Speaker 2: acknowledge that injustice has occurred in the past, but as
Speaker 2: long as you turn a representative of that injustice into
Speaker 2: a force so dangerous that there's no proportionate response except
Speaker 2: killing them, then you can justify any action in the
Speaker 2: present and kind of even out the lecture.
Speaker 1: And that feels like a really I don't know.
Speaker 2: Some way that we were we were thinking through with
Speaker 2: these summer camp movies, the kind of dominant political ideology
Speaker 2: we were all living under.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it is a kind of frontier wilderness setting
Speaker 1: that everybody's familiar with, and that is where you know
Speaker 1: colonial like.
Speaker 2: The summer I can never populated my camp.
Speaker 1: They're always way out there in the woods. And then yeah,
Speaker 1: they are being punished, Like I just think that at
Speaker 1: a certain level, there's like an unspoken knowledge amongst Americans
Speaker 1: that like, oh, yeah, we we've got it coming, like
Speaker 1: this is this has been back, like what every every
Speaker 1: thing we've everything you see around you is built on
Speaker 1: top of just ashes and atrocities we've got something horrible coming,
Speaker 1: and so yeah, it makes sense when slasher films like
Speaker 1: it does feel like if an alien came down and
Speaker 1: just like looked at our films. Slasher films would be
Speaker 1: pretty difficult to explain if you, if they didn't have
Speaker 1: like a psychological read like.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, it would never happen.
Speaker 1: It's just a thing we like to imagine happen to us.
Speaker 1: Why what is wrong? I think we got to come
Speaker 1: in or something.
Speaker 11: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I just.
Speaker 2: Ol masochism. Yeah, we know we are not what was intended.
Speaker 1: So we put the right So we put the Poulter
Speaker 1: guy's house on top of a Native American burial ground,
Speaker 1: and yeah, that gets it out. That gets it.
Speaker 3: It's just funny how like that, that sort of that
Speaker 3: angst manifest in different ways, sometimes in films other times,
Speaker 3: and people screaming at school board meetings, and like, I
Speaker 3: don't want my kids to know what a civil war is.
Speaker 1: Or was about.
Speaker 2: People should be watching more horror movies, I think.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if that's my version? Why am I
Speaker 3: so horror averse? I wonder what am I?
Speaker 1: You don't feel guilty about anything? Yeah, I gotta clean consciousness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess there's like a black in Japanese American
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I don't know, bro, Yeah, yeah, y'all
Speaker 3: got that shit coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you shouldn't feel weird about not liking horror movies
Speaker 1: like that. That's us man before liking them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just yeah, white people four hours a week
Speaker 2: go to the horror movie clinic because I.
Speaker 1: Mean, like there's also like bad.
Speaker 3: I mean there's Japanese horror films, and there's clearly there's
Speaker 3: a laundry list of atrocities that Japan has committed to.
Speaker 3: And I wonder, does there are there like what's German horror?
Speaker 5: Like does this is there?
Speaker 3: Is there like a uni versal language of like sort
Speaker 3: of expressing this like through what we consider horror, because
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: Cultural difference is really interesting because I feel like Japanese
Speaker 2: horror movies there are often ghosts.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, precisely, and we have.
Speaker 2: So few ghosts nowadays in American horror. We love demons.
Speaker 2: We won't shut up about demons.
Speaker 1: To my chagrin, Germany just has Werner Herzog.
Speaker 5: Everything is.
Speaker 2: Her SOG's new TV crayons.
Speaker 1: Why do you need horror movies? When nature is trying
Speaker 1: to kill you, always.
Speaker 2: Gardening with Werner herd sog.
Speaker 1: It's just a it's just a documentary about hummingbirds.
Speaker 2: In the abundance of these queens pushings their way out
Speaker 2: through the soil. I see none of the divinity of
Speaker 2: springtime or the pagan gods. I see only pointless. But
Speaker 2: I can also use them to make a nice festo.
Speaker 1: The While we're on the subject of movies, you kind
Speaker 1: of stumbled on I don't like the andyes, you did
Speaker 1: an episode on the Andy's Rescue. The a live story,
Speaker 1: as I think it's mostly known in America, the rugby
Speaker 1: team crashes in the andes is living there for months
Speaker 1: on a freaking glacier on a glacier, freezing to death,
Speaker 1: starving to death. Eventually turned to cannibalism to avoid starving
Speaker 1: to death a couple. So this past year, one of
Speaker 1: the best movies I saw was Society the Snow, which
Speaker 1: does a really good job of updating. You know, there
Speaker 1: was the version in the nineties Alive with like Ethan Hawke,
Speaker 1: I think, and you know it was like the hollywood
Speaker 1: ized version. Society the Snow like updates it and like
Speaker 1: adds a lot of the humananity back to it, which
Speaker 1: was something that your episode really did. But both movies
Speaker 1: really missed something that I loved that you brought up,
Speaker 1: which is that people like they were doing bits the
Speaker 1: whole time, Like the number of bits that they did
Speaker 1: was like, at one point, they're waiting to be rescued,
Speaker 1: and then they look off and they see an avalanche
Speaker 1: like a white wall coming towards them, and then they
Speaker 1: realized that somebody is actually using a fire extinguisher to
Speaker 1: like make it look like there's an avalanche coming with
Speaker 1: them as a bit, and then they're like pretend they
Speaker 1: were like talking like planning bits for what to do
Speaker 1: when the helicopter arrives at the scene of their plane crash,
Speaker 1: like talking about like the funniest thing to say while
Speaker 1: they were in it. But it's just it's, I don't know, generally,
Speaker 1: just movies about true stories and history feel like they
Speaker 1: have to be as huge umerless as like a Christopher
Speaker 1: Nolan film, you know, right, and totally it's just not
Speaker 1: how reality is. Like I would have loved the bits
Speaker 1: in both of those movies.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, because even you think about like the
Speaker 3: like the like the wild stuff, like engineering students pull
Speaker 3: like while they're in college.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the fun they have, like like JPL is
Speaker 3: nearby in LA and like they do like wild just
Speaker 3: pumpkin carving contests, just weird things are like now we're
Speaker 3: using our like power, like brain power to get stuff
Speaker 3: to other like the moon, to have fucking fun. And
Speaker 3: yet to think that like they were just I don't know,
Speaker 3: at the in where were those alamos. They were just
Speaker 3: like hanging out counting marbles or something. They're like, all right,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to bed, Yeah, see you later. Like
Speaker 3: they weren't horsing around come on.
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah no, yeah, those they were doing goods constantly,
Speaker 1: like all throughout history. And I think it, I really
Speaker 1: do think it's the same reason that comedies almost never
Speaker 1: win at the Academy Awards is the reason, and that
Speaker 1: they feel like they need to launder movies of any
Speaker 1: like fun when they're about history. Yeah, no, this has
Speaker 1: to be serious. We can't we have to like remove
Speaker 1: the fun. But I feel like it would just feel
Speaker 1: more lived in and yeah, I don't know, it would
Speaker 1: be be a blast if we actually saw how the
Speaker 1: people were funny at the time.
Speaker 2: Well, and you know, when I think about when you
Speaker 2: think about the movies that endure and that are a
Speaker 2: part of your life and that you watch a lot,
Speaker 2: like and you know, it's different. People have different requirements.
Speaker 2: Some people have comfort movies that have no funny parts
Speaker 2: in them at all, God bless her, But like, aren't
Speaker 2: most of the things that you watch more than a
Speaker 2: couple times funny?
Speaker 1: Yeah they have fun. Yeah, the characters are having fun
Speaker 1: or they're funny or yeah.
Speaker 2: There's the you know, because it's like a full spectrum
Speaker 2: of humanity. It's kind of like eating an entire meal
Speaker 2: with nothing, no sweetness in it at all, Like you
Speaker 2: can do it, but it's it feels there's something messing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The other thing that gout left out of both
Speaker 1: movies that your episode kind of restores is like it's
Speaker 1: kind of an important detail. Like you go from the
Speaker 1: story of them like surviving getting rescued to that that's
Speaker 1: kind of it. And then like today we know them
Speaker 1: as like the cannibal people and the media discovering the cannibalism,
Speaker 1: like the doctor checking them out and being like, wait
Speaker 1: a second, these guys like had to have been eating something,
Speaker 1: and then like a big like moral judgment ensues and
Speaker 1: like everybody's like their family is like upset by it,
Speaker 1: and they're like, wait, would our parents have rather us
Speaker 1: starved to death? And than like the Catholic church weighs
Speaker 1: in and is like, no, it's good that they were
Speaker 1: eating people, which was very every once in a while
Speaker 1: they nail it. And then the other detail was that
Speaker 1: they were like a few days walk from a hotel
Speaker 1: full of food. Was like, I don't know, it's always
Speaker 1: the way. I can see why you left it out,
Speaker 1: but Jesus Christ, that's I mean, it's like triangle of
Speaker 1: sadness like that. It's yeah, I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys saw that movie.
Speaker 8: I did.
Speaker 2: I really liked that movie and I saw that the
Speaker 2: night that midterm results were coming in, so it was
Speaker 2: like perfect for that very distracting.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh that's a good idea. Just woutch a really
Speaker 1: good like, save a really good movie for when the
Speaker 1: for election night, Yeah gets sucked.
Speaker 2: You need to be transported for real.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 2: I think that the kind of texture of tragedy is
Speaker 2: what makes it feel real. And I think that to
Speaker 2: some extent, when we tell stories that are so grim
Speaker 2: and feel so distant from us that that's a way
Speaker 2: of us feeling like it's not going to happen to us,
Speaker 2: when you know, really, so many of these things are
Speaker 2: the result of being in a boat, being in a skyscraper,
Speaker 2: being in the path of a forest fire. Like, we're
Speaker 2: going to have more and more epidemics and disasters and
Speaker 2: they're just going to become part of everyday life for
Speaker 2: those of us who don't feel that way yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope we can remember to be funny, and
Speaker 1: we're going to be so funny.
Speaker 2: We're going to be the funniest generation that has ever lived.
Speaker 3: They's ever lived through an apocalypse. Yeah right, you know
Speaker 3: the aliens will come and they're like Wow. As their
Speaker 3: civilization was dying, they put out some of the best comedies.
Speaker 2: The best content came right near me.
Speaker 5: The guy need a Drum set out of billionaire skulls
Speaker 5: and they're scouring doing solos. It was really quite artistic.
Speaker 5: I have to say, oh, yeah, it'll be great.
Speaker 1: I think you should leave quotes. As their city was
Speaker 1: burning down, well then once the.
Speaker 2: Grid went down, they had to make those meme museums. Right,
Speaker 2: those are a real tread.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be fun though, to like figure out
Speaker 1: which memes go in the museum, Like, you might as
Speaker 1: well just do that now. I feel like it would
Speaker 1: be a good public works project. Biden, come on, yeah, come.
Speaker 3: On, but these Yeah, we're gonna have somebody out of
Speaker 3: work TikTokers when you ban the app.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no work.
Speaker 5: Uh, you know the new Civil Conservation Corps of Meme
Speaker 5: Collection and Remembrance. Yeah, all right, let's let's take a
Speaker 5: quick break and we'll come back. We'll keep talking, and
Speaker 5: we're back.
Speaker 1: And this is your notice that we are a little
Speaker 1: over one week away from the total solar eclipse on
Speaker 1: April eighth. This is an especially rare event because it's
Speaker 1: path of totality will be much wider than the twenty
Speaker 1: seventeen eclipse, which was one of the first stories we
Speaker 1: covered on this show. So April eighth will be one
Speaker 1: of the last stories we cover. We're ending it. It's
Speaker 1: a we just do what the sun tells us, you know, exactly.
Speaker 1: But this is going to give more Americans a clear
Speaker 1: view of the phenomenon than the last time I have.
Speaker 1: I'm on the record as saying like I've been mostly
Speaker 1: I haven't been in the direct path of any of
Speaker 1: these eclipse experiences, but like they've been mostly underwhelming in
Speaker 1: my experience.
Speaker 5: It's because you gotta it's because you got to be
Speaker 5: in the path.
Speaker 1: You gotta go on the path path to Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we still try. We still go out there and
Speaker 1: we're like, whoa, look that light reflecting off the thing
Speaker 1: kind of has a wow, look at that.
Speaker 8: Look at the shadow?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: Or to use like a like a like binoculars or
Speaker 3: something in am so you can project a shadow onto
Speaker 3: the ground.
Speaker 5: I remember doing that.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and then I go, Honestly, I think I could
Speaker 10: look at it. I really don't think anything will happen
Speaker 10: if I look at it.
Speaker 8: I'm just and my way where I goes don't know, no,
Speaker 8: And I'm like, Okay, come on, I don't think it happens.
Speaker 5: I'm taking a sneaky look at the eclipse.
Speaker 8: I like, I look at the sun every day in
Speaker 8: my life.
Speaker 5: Basically, you gotta give it. I got I like to
Speaker 5: give a good solid three minutes of direct morning.
Speaker 10: Wait, that's how I reset my day. Okay, that's how
Speaker 10: I elevate as a human. You need a human It's
Speaker 10: just eye contact with the sun.
Speaker 5: Factory reset.
Speaker 3: I know you're saying you put a what is a
Speaker 3: hyper ice massage gun to the temple as a way
Speaker 3: to do a hard reset factory reset on your brain.
Speaker 3: The new one go outside firsting you wake up direct
Speaker 3: eye contact with the sun for three.
Speaker 1: Straight solar eclipse lasts for four minutes twenty seven seconds.
Speaker 1: So that's the that's the ice fucking challenge of this
Speaker 1: solar eclipse is staring for the whole at four minutes
Speaker 1: twenty seven second twenty Yeah, there you go, Yeah, there
Speaker 1: you go? Are you real? How much do you like
Speaker 1: solar eclipses? Bro? You've got like science people who are like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: we're traveling there. Oh yeah, you're about that. Then you
Speaker 1: look at it. You go look at it with the high.
Speaker 10: Exactly, spend the rest of your day blinking a lot
Speaker 10: because there's a big blind spot there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly the rest of your life blinking. But people
Speaker 1: are going nuts. I specifically, when our writer Jam put
Speaker 1: the story in the dock this morning, I immediately was like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, I better do something, and it's way too late.
Speaker 1: So these people aren't wrong, they're just more prepared than me.
Speaker 1: There's been a small spending boom across the country. Campgrounds
Speaker 1: and rental cars have sold out. Hotel rooms are getting
Speaker 1: booked up thanks to a massive number of tourists planning
Speaker 1: to visit states in the path of totality Indiana, which
Speaker 1: actually isn't that where you're Where are you held from?
Speaker 8: I am from the Midwest.
Speaker 10: I'm from Illinois, from the midwest, Illinois, but I'll claim
Speaker 10: it is Midwest. But we are older than them.
Speaker 1: Yes, of course, Indiana is preparing to get five hundred
Speaker 1: thousand visitors.
Speaker 10: That's probably that's a lot for Indiana who goes there.
Speaker 10: That's that's probably the most they've had in a while.
Speaker 1: That's more than seven times the attendants at the twenty
Speaker 1: twelve Super Bowl in Indianapolis. So they're they're in trouble now.
Speaker 10: I was gonna say, that's probably more than the last
Speaker 10: time the Colts were in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, it's too many people. So, I let's say,
Speaker 1: for for a city like Indianapolis. But despite the fact
Speaker 1: that eclipses are totally free astronomical occurrences that anybody can witness,
Speaker 1: corporations besides, you know, not just hotels, are trying to
Speaker 1: monetize the eclipse as much as possible. This one sounds
Speaker 1: pretty good, Like I'm actually not mad at this first one.
Speaker 1: You're six Flags mad? First one, you're mad at six Yeah.
Speaker 1: Six Flags in Texas is trying to get people to
Speaker 1: pay them to witness the eclipse while simultaneously trying not
Speaker 1: to puke on the Superman Tower of Terror with the
Speaker 1: sixth Flagg Fiesta Texas Solar Eclipse at the Park aka
Speaker 1: Solar Coaster.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: That sounds cool.
Speaker 8: It's cool as what's okay?
Speaker 3: Because I don't I don't think the experience is gonna
Speaker 3: be that cool, right, I think the the I guess
Speaker 3: the hottest ticket would be what if you're because I
Speaker 3: know those Superman rides. It's like basically a big J
Speaker 3: shaped thing where they shoot you up to like fucking
Speaker 3: seven hundred feet in the air and then you're like,
Speaker 3: you know your bag, like you're just looking straight up
Speaker 3: at the sky. I get maybe being that high up
Speaker 3: in it when an eclipse is happening, you're gonna be
Speaker 3: but that's like that's like forty people. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 3: I'm like, makes funk. Yeah, and I like it only
Speaker 3: lasts four minutes, so yeah, exactly, and it's like one
Speaker 3: like it's actually between like deployments of the like the amusement.
Speaker 1: Car, so it's like no one actually ever can sists
Speaker 1: up there.
Speaker 8: It's like they're just getting on and off.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, dude, it's happening.
Speaker 5: Get off so we can go up to Like sorry, that's.
Speaker 1: A really good point. Like they are selling an idealized
Speaker 1: version of what this could be in your mind. That
Speaker 1: is going to not happen for ninety nine point nine
Speaker 1: percent of the people who play them. Most people are
Speaker 1: going to be in line.
Speaker 8: Which that's a good drift. That's a good drift.
Speaker 5: It is a good better grift.
Speaker 3: Okay, I definitely I'll tip my hat to the grift.
Speaker 3: I think the Delta one is a has me hooked
Speaker 3: a little bit more. But then realizing this will be
Speaker 3: a fucking problem. I don't know how fun it would be.
Speaker 3: But they're offering flights that basically followed the path of
Speaker 3: totality and then you can basically they're saying unadulterated views
Speaker 3: from quote, extra large windows. I'm sorry, it's just the
Speaker 3: fucking windows that are on the plant.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like what, it's just a new plane. What are
Speaker 1: you doing to make the windows extra large. I like this,
Speaker 1: things are made by bowing. I don't know if you've
Speaker 1: seen hell, but.
Speaker 10: Not with everything going on with planes, I think there's
Speaker 10: a mercury retrograde.
Speaker 8: And then no, I am not going to be on
Speaker 8: a plane during this.
Speaker 3: But I can see like the people of being like, oh,
Speaker 3: you might be able to see like the land like
Speaker 3: become dark in these strips. Maybe that's cool, but like
Speaker 3: if you only but imagine what if this is like
Speaker 3: a one of those planes, Like how big is a plane?
Speaker 5: Is it a three? Like they got three aisles or
Speaker 5: three rows in the fucking middle? Like what if you
Speaker 5: sit in the middle, or if you have a fucking
Speaker 5: aisle seat? Then you're like, hey, man, can I get
Speaker 5: a little bit of a look? Like fuck you?
Speaker 1: I pay so? Did I? That's your fucking problem.
Speaker 3: That's your but yeah, that's I mean, like, but you know,
Speaker 3: I see they're doing a good job of you know,
Speaker 3: dangling this like magical experience in front of you. But
Speaker 3: if you just think it out for like two or
Speaker 3: three steps, you're like, oh wait, yeah, like why would
Speaker 3: I do that?
Speaker 1: I feel like even the like news footage from the
Speaker 1: like places that are in the path of Totality and
Speaker 1: previous eclipses. The people remind me. I think I said
Speaker 1: this before of the interviews with people after they saw Phantomenace,
Speaker 1: Like you know, they like the when they have like
Speaker 1: the local news reports and they're like, and these Star
Speaker 1: Wars fans have been camped out for seventy two hours
Speaker 1: for this, and we interviewed them like before going in
Speaker 1: and after, and then you like have them coming out
Speaker 1: and they're all like, yeah, it was oh man, it's like,
Speaker 1: oh it was cool, so cool. Like it they're like,
Speaker 1: is it as good as the other Star Wars better? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like but you can tell like like the light has
Speaker 1: gone out like behind their eyes a little bit, Like
Speaker 1: they're just like, ah fuck, like put some part of
Speaker 1: them is coming to terms with the fact that it sucked.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I've seen that in some of
Speaker 1: the footage of like parents who have like taken their
Speaker 1: kids across the country to be there, and they're just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, well we're in a field here, and sure
Speaker 1: it's cool. We're glad that.
Speaker 3: It's I remember I think somewhere in Oregon was like
Speaker 3: the best place to see it the last time it happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I remember seeing footage of that, people like
Speaker 1: we're like, yo, we got so fucking cold.
Speaker 5: All was like all that shit together. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 5: if I was fucking AI, I.
Speaker 1: Would be like that'd be cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, wild, But then it's four minutes and.
Speaker 1: Then you're like, oh, it's like okay, well that happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there we are worth twenty five hundred dollars for
Speaker 3: the overpriced plane, hotel, and cars.
Speaker 8: Well, we'll have all the.
Speaker 1: Money we spent. That's the memory.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: When the fuck is that's right?
Speaker 5: When are we getting ours? Out here? In La? Come on?
Speaker 10: Man, wasn't there Come on, God, wasn't there an eclipse
Speaker 10: out here? We had like an LA like mini eclipse
Speaker 10: or something.
Speaker 1: We had a yeah, but not like a total yeah,
Speaker 1: Like we were never in the path of totality.
Speaker 8: We've never been path of totality exactly.
Speaker 3: But I mean, like, yeah, while you know people like
Speaker 3: Delta doing their shit, I'm glad that the fast food
Speaker 3: companies are also. They're they're on their game too, making
Speaker 3: sure that they have solar eclips based puns, but really
Speaker 3: just offering nothing of substance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean the Burger King is offering free
Speaker 1: whoppers for that whole day.
Speaker 5: For some reason, I wouldn't eat a whopper if it
Speaker 5: was free.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I know that's that connection. I'm not saying I would,
Speaker 10: I actually would. I like, I like a whopper, but
Speaker 10: I think we're boycotted.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I haven't had berg a year or so. No, just
Speaker 3: just for me, I was like, every time I've had
Speaker 3: a burger like a whopper, I'm like, am right?
Speaker 1: But then that what that like? Yeah, every other time
Speaker 1: it's bad, but when when it hits.
Speaker 10: It and it only happened, Yeah, it only happens on
Speaker 10: Wopper Wednesday. That's the one day that it's really right,
Speaker 10: oh man.
Speaker 5: Or an eclipse, Yeah, during an eclipse, it's the one.
Speaker 1: Maybe the guys were actually gonna like make the whopper
Speaker 1: good this time.
Speaker 5: Really put some fucking effort in, y'all.
Speaker 1: Pizza Hut has a total eclipse of the Hut deal,
Speaker 1: which sounds like the New York Post headline after Pizza
Speaker 1: Hut goes out of business. Yeah, it's kind of weird
Speaker 1: that they've gone with that, but maybe that's what they're
Speaker 1: going for. They're like, this deal is too good. We're
Speaker 1: actually not going to survive it. But it's any large
Speaker 1: pizza for twelve dollars.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and any toppings. I think that's the big one
Speaker 10: there because that's the topics are extra.
Speaker 1: Toppings will fuck you up. Twelve dollars for as many
Speaker 1: toppings as you want.
Speaker 3: Well that even but I know recently you're like you're
Speaker 3: not feeling Pizza the Hut, So are you? Would you
Speaker 3: entertain that load that ship down?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I love I like pizza topping, full pizza.
Speaker 1: I love supreme pizza, Like that's my ship.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so they're thinning. Crispy's pretty good too.
Speaker 1: You love Pizza Hut just generally, yeah, Like I like, yeah, I.
Speaker 10: Loved the mini pizzas growing up as a kid, and
Speaker 10: so it just kind of became one of my favorite
Speaker 10: pizza spots for you know, like cheap fast pizza.
Speaker 8: It's that's better than like a Papa John's or Little Caesars.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who was the guest I was saying that it's
Speaker 3: basically they're they're they're selling you Little Caesars pizza at
Speaker 3: a slight is how they describe.
Speaker 8: Cheese is way better at Pizza Hut.
Speaker 5: Okay, but you know what crazy bread at Little Caesars.
Speaker 5: That's still little is in the left.
Speaker 1: Little Caesars is experimenting with like little like pizza cupcakes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just like they caught that out of the corner of
Speaker 1: my eye and they're struggling. Not now, Little Caesars. Not now.
Speaker 8: They're paying a lot of people on Twitter to promote it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, please, please, please, I can't deal with
Speaker 1: this right now. They're like, eat ours from the ass end.
Speaker 5: You're like, what that's like?
Speaker 3: I think that was one of the marketing when they
Speaker 3: had like the fucking wild ass crust on the side.
Speaker 11: They're like put it that way or something. But yeah,
Speaker 11: from the back, we know how are Yeah, they likes
Speaker 11: so eat the from the ass end.
Speaker 8: Litza Pizza.
Speaker 1: Sun Chips have woken from their slumbers again. Another brand
Speaker 1: that only we only think about once every twenty years.
Speaker 1: The sun Chips will be selling a special eclipse themed flavor,
Speaker 1: but only during the time of the eclipse. So you
Speaker 1: in order to experience this, you will need to be
Speaker 1: during the eclipse, spending that time on your laptop. Time
Speaker 1: to buy sunships. Yeah, it's available, like the marketing says,
Speaker 1: available for four minutes. Twenty seven seconds.
Speaker 10: I Okay, this sounds dumb, but when I read the flavor,
Speaker 10: I was actually like, I would do it.
Speaker 8: I want to try it.
Speaker 5: It's different enough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like, oh okay, because sometimes they'll be like
Speaker 3: the flavor description be so vague. They'll be like, it's
Speaker 3: like a combination of the dark side of the moon
Speaker 3: and the head of the sun hitting your mouth in
Speaker 3: one go, and you're like, get to the point. Yeah,
Speaker 3: hot pineapple hob and narrow black bean, spicy guda chips.
Speaker 1: That's too many flavors I want to see.
Speaker 8: I'm like, how are we doing this?
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I think they have two options. They
Speaker 1: have pineapple, hobbinaro and black here like.
Speaker 10: Flavors straight pon me tongue now, no way. Okay, Well
Speaker 10: I'm gonna buy them both. I'm gonna eat them together.
Speaker 8: So whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So this next detail of this story
Speaker 1: is one of the rare things that made me say
Speaker 1: that's fucked up out loud. Well, ri everything we just said, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: everything we just said. So, Eclipse tour Us are being
Speaker 1: screwed over by greedy hotels who are allegedly canceling reservations
Speaker 1: that were made over a year ago by people who
Speaker 1: were like on it, Like, we've known about this eclipse
Speaker 1: since the sixteen hundreds, so you couldn't this ship.
Speaker 8: Prepared?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And they booked it over a year ago
Speaker 1: in order to you know, be there for the eclipse.
Speaker 1: And the hotels are canceling those reservations because they're like,
Speaker 1: not fair, we weren't able to gouge you enough and
Speaker 1: so basically trying to resell the room at a higher cost.
Speaker 1: Now the demand has risen, that make like that should
Speaker 1: be the thing that starts the uprising, Like fuck that
Speaker 1: people angry nerds starting a war. No, like that is
Speaker 1: so infuriating, and that they'll just like get away with it.
Speaker 1: They are like, yeah, it's just it's the price gouging shit,
Speaker 1: it's the whole like you know the fact that they
Speaker 1: don't mind just raising prices during the fucking pandemic because
Speaker 1: they can. And the mainstream media is just like, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: that's market got forces at work. It's like, no, that's
Speaker 1: companies making for record profits during a pandemic, like they
Speaker 1: this this drives me fucking crazy that it's just like
Speaker 1: market forces is a get out of like morality term
Speaker 1: that they're just gonna use to fuck people over like forever,
Speaker 1: and like this is that is that makes me so
Speaker 1: mad for some reason, canceling the reservations of the people
Speaker 1: who because like that could never be me. I could
Speaker 1: never be the person who was like, oh the things
Speaker 1: coming up in a year like this, this would be
Speaker 1: a great experience for my kids. I'm gonna book it
Speaker 1: a year in advance and we'll like plan this thing
Speaker 1: like that is. I look on those people like they
Speaker 1: are professional.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I would never that would never be me.
Speaker 1: Wow, you're amazing.
Speaker 8: You are you should benefit.
Speaker 3: I feel like, though, Jackie, if you did put in
Speaker 3: that effort and then a fucking hotel canceled on you,
Speaker 3: you would be the main character in one of those
Speaker 3: like uva bowls falling down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it would be yes, I would be. It
Speaker 1: would be over for these hopes in that hotel industry,
Speaker 1: in these hotels.
Speaker 8: I'm burning down.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I would be so angry. I'm so mad.
Speaker 1: I've never been there, so mad on behalf of like
Speaker 1: complete strangers who just like kind of got screwed out
Speaker 1: of like some money. Yeah, but well I guess they
Speaker 1: got screwed out of the whole thing, because like now
Speaker 1: all the hotels are bucking up, and so they're just
Speaker 1: like without reservations.
Speaker 3: I mean, at the very least, like if in the
Speaker 3: most cnical version they should be like, hey man, we're
Speaker 3: thinking about cancer. Yeah, somebody just offered us a fucking
Speaker 3: back for your comfortable your double twin room that you
Speaker 3: you book you want to match, maybe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and giving you first refusal on this one. The
Speaker 1: other one that your people are probably more likely to
Speaker 1: fall victim to is the fake ass eclipse glass take
Speaker 1: eclipse glasses, which will damage your eyes. Yeaheah. So basically
Speaker 1: you need if they don't clearly state on the glasses
Speaker 1: that they have quote International Organization for Standardization ISO one
Speaker 1: two three one two DASH two certification, do not buy
Speaker 1: those for your kids. Yeah, you make sure it's that
Speaker 1: DASH too, not the DASH one you don't want to Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that one just means like oh Dash one, No, that
Speaker 1: will accelerate the damage. Yeah yeah, you actually won't have
Speaker 1: eyebrows or eyelashes. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Back in twenty seventeen, Amazon recalled sketchy eclipse glasses sold
Speaker 1: through their site, but they did it just two days
Speaker 1: before the eclipse and ended up facing a class action lawsuit.
Speaker 1: So nobody's gonna save you from capitalism. This is the
Speaker 1: message of this eclipse. Maybe yeah, eclipses have set off
Speaker 1: like big historic events, but in the past, maybe this,
Speaker 1: this will cause cause us to overthrow capital.
Speaker 3: Something activates the whole country's manchurion in Canada. That's just
Speaker 3: like what destroy our masters. It just reminds me too
Speaker 3: of just like in like the height of the pandemic,
Speaker 3: whenever one's like, oh yeah, these are these n ninety
Speaker 3: fives I got man, I got these?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, inxactly they were not they were if they.
Speaker 3: Are not niosh approved or whatever, Yeah, shit, here we go,
Speaker 3: and people.
Speaker 5: Are just like, those are joke sunglasses from someone's barmits
Speaker 5: for that.
Speaker 1: Don't you see that they have eyeballs attached to springs.
Speaker 1: Don't you see the fake mustache thing that one still
Speaker 1: has it on. They forgot to rip it off.
Speaker 5: That shit.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, that's gonna do it for this
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