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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from

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Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, so,

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Speaker 1: without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Miles. We

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Speaker 1: are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by

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Speaker 1: a writer, media critic, host of a couple podcasts. You

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Speaker 1: Are Good, a feelings podcast about movies, and the classic

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Speaker 1: the Mount Rushmore podcasts. It's not a podcast about Mount Rushmore.

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Speaker 1: It is like on the Mount Rushmore of great podcasts,

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Speaker 1: exactly You're wrong about. Her writing has appeared in The

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Speaker 1: Believer on BuzzFeed. Truly one of the best people in

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Speaker 1: the world at interrogating the myths and narratives we use

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Speaker 1: to define ourselves in the world around us. Please welcome

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Speaker 1: the brilliant and talented Sarah Marshall.

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Speaker 2: What a crazy intro. I feel so pumped up. I

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Speaker 2: feel like I want to be one of those kids

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Speaker 2: running onto the stage of Maury and.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I don't care much?

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Speaker 3: Yeah yet did you ever do an episode about that?

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Speaker 2: He really should? I was just thinking this morning. One

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Speaker 2: of the things I find most fascinating is the question

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Speaker 2: of like the inner workings of a nineties daytime talk show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like, my god.

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Speaker 3: Right, because I mean like I feel like we got

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Speaker 3: the like the darkest glimpse after the Jenny Jones thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's when we started to be.

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Speaker 1: Like, oh no, no, what was.

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Speaker 5: The actings have Consequences Jenny Jones one was where they

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Speaker 5: outed one of their guests for being in love with

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Speaker 5: this other man, right, and then the guy was murdered.

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Speaker 1: Oh Jesus.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna be iffy on the details, but yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I don't think they aired the episode, but right

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Speaker 2: they they did facilitate a murder there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Wow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and you know.

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Speaker 2: You're wrong about as big on the Satanic panic and

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Speaker 2: they were such a big part of that other wonderful things. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a real accelerant to the like the wet cardboard and

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Speaker 2: the mushroom growing experience a my college metaphor, that's.

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Speaker 1: Where we are whischh we are? Yeah, I was going

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Speaker 1: to ask for the best micology metaphors you could call

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Speaker 1: it what. Yeah, we've talked about You're wrong about a

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Speaker 1: lot on this podcast, especially around human trafficking, and uh,

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Speaker 1: it's just I think the foremost debunker of bullshit myths,

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Speaker 1: and our show pedals bullshit. I mean, it's what we do.

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Speaker 1: We love to know. We also like to bust bullshit

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Speaker 1: myths when we're heads up enough to catch them. But

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Speaker 1: so we wanted to just have you back on the

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Speaker 1: show and go through some of the stories you've covered,

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Speaker 1: some of your favorites, some of our favorites that we

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Speaker 1: just want to make sure our listeners are aware of

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Speaker 1: because it's a great show and.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy to be This is so lovely and

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm so happy that we're in your zeitgeist. And

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Speaker 2: it's a really it's like a lovely and bleak and

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Speaker 2: lovely distinction to hold when it's like, you know, myth

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, it truly is, Caitlin Drante. We do like to

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Speaker 1: ask our guests, what is something from your search history?

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Speaker 6: Okay, well, obviously I'm looking at Shrek stuff and I

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Speaker 6: found out slash. I think someone told me, someone damned

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Speaker 6: me on Instagram and told me about something called Shrek's Adventure,

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Speaker 6: which is like a I don't think it's quite a

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Speaker 6: have to be going to Shrek's Adventure. And then that

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Speaker 6: there's a whole section of Universal Studios in Singapore called

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Speaker 6: and so I just have to go to all of

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering if Shrek is popular in France, is.

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Speaker 7: It in any way comparable to the other live experience

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Speaker 7: that the man who put on said it quote unquote

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Speaker 1: Oh of Caitlin's live show again.

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Speaker 7: I was talking about that Willy Wonka man.

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Speaker 8: That that truly that truly.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, the fire the Firefest of exact media.

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Speaker 1: I mean not according to the website, it is not

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Speaker 6: Wow. Yeah, So I'm going to that and I'm going

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Speaker 6: to have the best time.

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Speaker 7: Will you wave to the sky for me when you go?

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Speaker 6: Of course?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yes, sure.

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Speaker 1: I feel like mileage may vary based on what country

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Speaker 6: Literally a property of Universal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's more universal. Did you get right? Actually just

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Speaker 6: Did you go to the Mummy Ride?

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Speaker 1: We? No, they we just we We hit the like

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Speaker 1: it was poor and rain out. Highly recommend that go

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Speaker 1: No, we had to like leave right before everybody. I know.

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Speaker 1: But the theme, the concept of water World I mentioned.

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Speaker 6: It's water World. It is wild that you're bringing this

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Speaker 1: What uh, Alex, what is something you think is underrated?

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Speaker 4: So underrated? I want to shout out Cherry Coke zero. Okay,

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Speaker 4: it's a fantastic And I thought about it for a

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Speaker 4: my Cherry Coke zero? At one point, he just says,

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Speaker 4: on the tableway, And unfortunately he is correct. It's a

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Speaker 4: fantastic beverage. I want to have it all the time.

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Speaker 4: I guess, I guess we're celebrating good Friday by talking

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Speaker 4: about the Pope Cherry Coke zero.

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Speaker 4: I have a good Friday, Friday, the best of Fridays.

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Speaker 4: But it's great. It's a it's a step up from

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Speaker 4: Coke zero. If you've only had that.

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Speaker 9: Oh what do you think about the You know, coke

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Speaker 9: is always experimenting, right, full disclosure. I am based in Atlanta, Georgia,

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Speaker 9: and so we hear a lot weird coke stuff. We

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Speaker 9: the weird the why old swings sometimes just will show

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Speaker 9: up in your neighborhood, like there was, for instance, recently,

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Speaker 9: there was Coca Cola dream and I tried it right, yeah,

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Speaker 9: And in their defense, they never said whether it was

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Speaker 9: not the vibe for me, man. And they've got they've

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Speaker 9: they've always got these new flavors coming out.

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Speaker 5: So Cherry Coke zero that's one for you.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm glad you bring up dream because I was

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Speaker 4: not into that. The spiced coke is okay, it's just

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Speaker 4: called spice. It's not a duing thing or whatever.

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Speaker 5: And uh.

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Speaker 4: And then at one point they did like seven fruit

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Speaker 4: flavors of diet coke, and I was mostly not into those.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they very coke zero though as a.

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Speaker 4: Winner, it's and it's pretty available. You don't have to

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Speaker 4: be I assume you're you have some kind of Atlanta

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Speaker 9: But I'm so plugged in. You know, we got retinal scans,

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Speaker 9: We've got actually the Coca Cola Museum, which is heavy propaganda,

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Speaker 9: just to be completely always. Yeah, yeah, if you've been there,

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Speaker 9: there is the culmination of the tour is a Willy

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Speaker 9: beverage that the Coca Cola company makes. Yeah, and it's

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Speaker 9: you know, there's some cinematography or a choreography of the soda,

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Speaker 1: What.

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Speaker 9: Shout out to the custodial staff. Yeah, that's going to

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Speaker 1: Like that must be. They must be like recruiting custodians

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Speaker 1: looking at close caption and CCTV footage of like people

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Speaker 1: Fountain Room.

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Speaker 9: And they have PTSD from it. You know, they talk

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Speaker 1: Their seen some shit.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 1: You know, Cherry Coke zero.

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Speaker 5: I can't look at it.

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Speaker 1: Cherry Coke zero. I've never purchased it outside of a

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Speaker 1: movie theater, but it is my whatever that like universal

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Speaker 1: Freestyle Coke machine is just as a system. Yeah, oh

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Speaker 1: my god. Yeah. I go Coke zero and then I

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Speaker 1: put the cherry in and it's bright red for some reason,

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Speaker 1: And man, I love that there's like a bright red

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Speaker 1: I mean, not the whole drink, but there is like

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Speaker 1: a you know in the in the machine, there's like

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Speaker 1: there's like some manner of like Cherry Zeru that's coming

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Speaker 1: in that I think makes it different than the The

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Speaker 1: Hot Poke Bottled Cherry Coke zero's version. The Hot Pope

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Speaker 1: what if what if the Pope fucked? Like it was?

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Speaker 9: It was so weird because it went through like you

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Speaker 9: And I thought maybe these guys just got real deep

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Speaker 9: That's the bitch, right, that's what they did.

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Speaker 1: But like Scorsese's making a new series for Fox Nation.

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Speaker 10: Like if you're depressed, watch as many murder sad documentaries

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Speaker 10: the other way for a bit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I've been watching so many things that

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Speaker 10: It was sad and dark, but I want it to Hey,

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Speaker 10: I feel like there's always a fucking documentary about YouTubers

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Speaker 8: Like Osiren? Oh not?

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Speaker 8: In real? Yeah, I had never heard of this guy.

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Speaker 5: And I'm like, what the fun I never heard of

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, And that that broke me a bit mentally, so.

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Speaker 5: Did it?

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Speaker 3: So that's why you just have to create. That's I

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Speaker 2: No, or with the Republican Party. And I always love

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Speaker 2: A social justice warrior. Some would say he loves building

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Speaker 1: Do about how things have gone since then. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: They have failed to infiltrate the media, which is nice,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. They tried turning their hat around backwards, turning the

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Speaker 3: the ones we've mentioned, even human trafficking. They're just sort

441
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Speaker 3: of like built on people's inability or like unwillingness to

442
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 3: examine actual systemic forces, and it's just much easier to

443
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 3: chalk it up to like, yeah, it's this other thing, man,

444
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 3: it's these Satanists that are going that are freaking out.

445
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: It's like, it's not that there's inequality, is that there

446
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 3: are these flash rob mobs where they just go through

447
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 3: and steal everything and it's a crime wave and it

448
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 3: just allows, I don't know, for people to sort of

449
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 3: neatly put some kind of larger issue into a problem

450
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 3: that doesn't quite actually get to the root of the cause.

451
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been fascinated by slasher movies for a long time,

452
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 2: and I think that they do a weirdly great job

453
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,480
Speaker 2: of illustrating this very i think kind of core piece

454
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 2: of American folklore, where you know, he was Friday the

455
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 2: thirteenth as the er example, like some kind of like

456
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 2: the traditional slasher template is that somebody is wronged in

457
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: the past, Jason drowns because the counselors weren't paying attention

458
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: to making that boy drowned, and then some kind of

459
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: force avenging the wronged party shows up in the present

460
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 2: and innocent teens who are simply you know, smoking a

461
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 2: joint or making out suffer, and there the sort of

462
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 2: arc of it is that you can sort of momentarily

463
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 2: acknowledge that injustice has occurred in the past, but as

464
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 2: long as you turn a representative of that injustice into

465
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 2: a force so dangerous that there's no proportionate response except

466
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Speaker 2: killing them, then you can justify any action in the

467
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 2: present and kind of even out the lecture.

468
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: And that feels like a really I don't know.

469
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: Some way that we were we were thinking through with

470
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 2: these summer camp movies, the kind of dominant political ideology

471
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 2: we were all living under.

472
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it is a kind of frontier wilderness setting

473
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,600
Speaker 1: that everybody's familiar with, and that is where you know

474
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: colonial like.

475
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: The summer I can never populated my camp.

476
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,160
Speaker 1: They're always way out there in the woods. And then yeah,

477
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:46,479
Speaker 1: they are being punished, Like I just think that at

478
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: a certain level, there's like an unspoken knowledge amongst Americans

479
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: that like, oh, yeah, we we've got it coming, like

480
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: this is this has been back, like what every every

481
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: thing we've everything you see around you is built on

482
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: top of just ashes and atrocities we've got something horrible coming,

483
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:18,159
Speaker 1: and so yeah, it makes sense when slasher films like

484
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: it does feel like if an alien came down and

485
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: just like looked at our films. Slasher films would be

486
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: pretty difficult to explain if you, if they didn't have

487
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: like a psychological read like.

488
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Speaker 5: No, no, no, it would never happen.

489
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: It's just a thing we like to imagine happen to us.

490
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 1: Why what is wrong? I think we got to come

491
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Speaker 1: in or something.

492
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Speaker 11: I don't know.

493
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 7: I just.

494
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Speaker 2: Ol masochism. Yeah, we know we are not what was intended.

495
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: So we put the right So we put the Poulter

496
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: guy's house on top of a Native American burial ground,

497
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: and yeah, that gets it out. That gets it.

498
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 3: It's just funny how like that, that sort of that

499
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 3: angst manifest in different ways, sometimes in films other times,

500
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 3: and people screaming at school board meetings, and like, I

501
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 3: don't want my kids to know what a civil war is.

502
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: Or was about.

503
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 2: People should be watching more horror movies, I think.

504
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder if that's my version? Why am I

505
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 3: so horror averse? I wonder what am I?

506
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: You don't feel guilty about anything? Yeah, I gotta clean consciousness.

507
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess there's like a black in Japanese American

508
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I don't know, bro, Yeah, yeah, y'all

509
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 3: got that shit coming.

510
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, you shouldn't feel weird about not liking horror movies

511
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 1: like that. That's us man before liking them.

512
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just yeah, white people four hours a week

513
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 2: go to the horror movie clinic because I.

514
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: Mean, like there's also like bad.

515
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 3: I mean there's Japanese horror films, and there's clearly there's

516
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 3: a laundry list of atrocities that Japan has committed to.

517
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 3: And I wonder, does there are there like what's German horror?

518
00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 5: Like does this is there?

519
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 3: Is there like a uni versal language of like sort

520
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: of expressing this like through what we consider horror, because

521
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: I know.

522
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 2: Cultural difference is really interesting because I feel like Japanese

523
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: horror movies there are often ghosts.

524
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, precisely, and we have.

525
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: So few ghosts nowadays in American horror. We love demons.

526
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 2: We won't shut up about demons.

527
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: To my chagrin, Germany just has Werner Herzog.

528
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 5: Everything is.

529
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 2: Her SOG's new TV crayons.

530
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: Why do you need horror movies? When nature is trying

531
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: to kill you, always.

532
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 2: Gardening with Werner herd sog.

533
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: It's just a it's just a documentary about hummingbirds.

534
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: In the abundance of these queens pushings their way out

535
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 2: through the soil. I see none of the divinity of

536
00:29:54,120 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: springtime or the pagan gods. I see only pointless. But

537
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: I can also use them to make a nice festo.

538
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: The While we're on the subject of movies, you kind

539
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 1: of stumbled on I don't like the andyes, you did

540
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: an episode on the Andy's Rescue. The a live story,

541
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Speaker 1: as I think it's mostly known in America, the rugby

542
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: team crashes in the andes is living there for months

543
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: on a freaking glacier on a glacier, freezing to death,

544
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: starving to death. Eventually turned to cannibalism to avoid starving

545
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: to death a couple. So this past year, one of

546
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: the best movies I saw was Society the Snow, which

547
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: does a really good job of updating. You know, there

548
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: was the version in the nineties Alive with like Ethan Hawke,

549
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: I think, and you know it was like the hollywood

550
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: ized version. Society the Snow like updates it and like

551
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: adds a lot of the humananity back to it, which

552
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: was something that your episode really did. But both movies

553
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: really missed something that I loved that you brought up,

554
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: which is that people like they were doing bits the

555
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: whole time, Like the number of bits that they did

556
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: was like, at one point, they're waiting to be rescued,

557
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: and then they look off and they see an avalanche

558
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:28,719
Speaker 1: like a white wall coming towards them, and then they

559
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: realized that somebody is actually using a fire extinguisher to

560
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: like make it look like there's an avalanche coming with

561
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: them as a bit, and then they're like pretend they

562
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: were like talking like planning bits for what to do

563
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: when the helicopter arrives at the scene of their plane crash,

564
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: like talking about like the funniest thing to say while

565
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: they were in it. But it's just it's, I don't know, generally,

566
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,959
Speaker 1: just movies about true stories and history feel like they

567
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: have to be as huge umerless as like a Christopher

568
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 1: Nolan film, you know, right, and totally it's just not

569
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: how reality is. Like I would have loved the bits

570
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: in both of those movies.

571
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, because even you think about like the

572
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: like the like the wild stuff, like engineering students pull

573
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 3: like while they're in college.

574
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

575
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, like the fun they have, like like JPL is

576
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: nearby in LA and like they do like wild just

577
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 3: pumpkin carving contests, just weird things are like now we're

578
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 3: using our like power, like brain power to get stuff

579
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 3: to other like the moon, to have fucking fun. And

580
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 3: yet to think that like they were just I don't know,

581
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 3: at the in where were those alamos. They were just

582
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 3: like hanging out counting marbles or something. They're like, all right,

583
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to bed, Yeah, see you later. Like

584
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 3: they weren't horsing around come on.

585
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah no, yeah, those they were doing goods constantly,

586
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: like all throughout history. And I think it, I really

587
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: do think it's the same reason that comedies almost never

588
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: win at the Academy Awards is the reason, and that

589
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: they feel like they need to launder movies of any

590
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: like fun when they're about history. Yeah, no, this has

591
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: to be serious. We can't we have to like remove

592
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: the fun. But I feel like it would just feel

593
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: more lived in and yeah, I don't know, it would

594
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: be be a blast if we actually saw how the

595
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: people were funny at the time.

596
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: Well, and you know, when I think about when you

597
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 2: think about the movies that endure and that are a

598
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: part of your life and that you watch a lot,

599
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: like and you know, it's different. People have different requirements.

600
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: Some people have comfort movies that have no funny parts

601
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: in them at all, God bless her, But like, aren't

602
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 2: most of the things that you watch more than a

603
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 2: couple times funny?

604
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: Yeah they have fun. Yeah, the characters are having fun

605
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: or they're funny or yeah.

606
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: There's the you know, because it's like a full spectrum

607
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: of humanity. It's kind of like eating an entire meal

608
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: with nothing, no sweetness in it at all, Like you

609
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 2: can do it, but it's it feels there's something messing.

610
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. The other thing that gout left out of both

611
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: movies that your episode kind of restores is like it's

612
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: kind of an important detail. Like you go from the

613
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: story of them like surviving getting rescued to that that's

614
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: kind of it. And then like today we know them

615
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 1: as like the cannibal people and the media discovering the cannibalism,

616
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: like the doctor checking them out and being like, wait

617
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: a second, these guys like had to have been eating something,

618
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: and then like a big like moral judgment ensues and

619
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: like everybody's like their family is like upset by it,

620
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: and they're like, wait, would our parents have rather us

621
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: starved to death? And than like the Catholic church weighs

622
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: in and is like, no, it's good that they were

623
00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 1: eating people, which was very every once in a while

624
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: they nail it. And then the other detail was that

625
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: they were like a few days walk from a hotel

626
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 1: full of food. Was like, I don't know, it's always

627
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: the way. I can see why you left it out,

628
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: but Jesus Christ, that's I mean, it's like triangle of

629
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: sadness like that. It's yeah, I don't know if you

630
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: guys saw that movie.

631
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 8: I did.

632
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 2: I really liked that movie and I saw that the

633
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: night that midterm results were coming in, so it was

634
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 2: like perfect for that very distracting.

635
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: Yes, oh that's a good idea. Just woutch a really

636
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 1: good like, save a really good movie for when the

637
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: for election night, Yeah gets sucked.

638
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 2: You need to be transported for real.

639
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is.

640
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 2: I think that the kind of texture of tragedy is

641
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: what makes it feel real. And I think that to

642
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 2: some extent, when we tell stories that are so grim

643
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: and feel so distant from us that that's a way

644
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: of us feeling like it's not going to happen to us,

645
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: when you know, really, so many of these things are

646
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: the result of being in a boat, being in a skyscraper,

647
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: being in the path of a forest fire. Like, we're

648
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: going to have more and more epidemics and disasters and

649
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: they're just going to become part of everyday life for

650
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: those of us who don't feel that way yet.

651
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope we can remember to be funny, and

652
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: we're going to be so funny.

653
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 2: We're going to be the funniest generation that has ever lived.

654
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 3: They's ever lived through an apocalypse. Yeah right, you know

655
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 3: the aliens will come and they're like Wow. As their

656
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 3: civilization was dying, they put out some of the best comedies.

657
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: The best content came right near me.

658
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 5: The guy need a Drum set out of billionaire skulls

659
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 5: and they're scouring doing solos. It was really quite artistic.

660
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Speaker 5: I have to say, oh, yeah, it'll be great.

661
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Speaker 1: I think you should leave quotes. As their city was

662
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: burning down, well then once the.

663
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Speaker 2: Grid went down, they had to make those meme museums. Right,

664
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 2: those are a real tread.

665
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be fun though, to like figure out

666
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: which memes go in the museum, Like, you might as

667
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 1: well just do that now. I feel like it would

668
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: be a good public works project. Biden, come on, yeah, come.

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00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 3: On, but these Yeah, we're gonna have somebody out of

670
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 3: work TikTokers when you ban the app.

671
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no work.

672
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 5: Uh, you know the new Civil Conservation Corps of Meme

673
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 5: Collection and Remembrance. Yeah, all right, let's let's take a

674
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 5: quick break and we'll come back. We'll keep talking, and

675
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 5: we're back.

676
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Speaker 1: And this is your notice that we are a little

677
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: over one week away from the total solar eclipse on

678
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: April eighth. This is an especially rare event because it's

679
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: path of totality will be much wider than the twenty

680
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: seventeen eclipse, which was one of the first stories we

681
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: covered on this show. So April eighth will be one

682
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: of the last stories we cover. We're ending it. It's

683
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: a we just do what the sun tells us, you know, exactly.

684
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: But this is going to give more Americans a clear

685
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: view of the phenomenon than the last time I have.

686
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: I'm on the record as saying like I've been mostly

687
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: I haven't been in the direct path of any of

688
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: these eclipse experiences, but like they've been mostly underwhelming in

689
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: my experience.

690
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 5: It's because you gotta it's because you got to be

691
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 5: in the path.

692
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,959
Speaker 1: You gotta go on the path path to Yeah. Yeah,

693
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: but we still try. We still go out there and

694
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: we're like, whoa, look that light reflecting off the thing

695
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: kind of has a wow, look at that.

696
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 8: Look at the shadow?

697
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah.

698
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 3: Or to use like a like a like binoculars or

699
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 3: something in am so you can project a shadow onto

700
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Speaker 3: the ground.

701
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 5: I remember doing that.

702
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 10: Yeah, and then I go, Honestly, I think I could

703
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 10: look at it. I really don't think anything will happen

704
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 10: if I look at it.

705
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 8: I'm just and my way where I goes don't know, no,

706
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 8: And I'm like, Okay, come on, I don't think it happens.

707
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 5: I'm taking a sneaky look at the eclipse.

708
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 8: I like, I look at the sun every day in

709
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 8: my life.

710
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 5: Basically, you gotta give it. I got I like to

711
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 5: give a good solid three minutes of direct morning.

712
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 10: Wait, that's how I reset my day. Okay, that's how

713
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 10: I elevate as a human. You need a human It's

714
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 10: just eye contact with the sun.

715
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 5: Factory reset.

716
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 3: I know you're saying you put a what is a

717
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 3: hyper ice massage gun to the temple as a way

718
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 3: to do a hard reset factory reset on your brain.

719
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 3: The new one go outside firsting you wake up direct

720
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 3: eye contact with the sun for three.

721
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Speaker 1: Straight solar eclipse lasts for four minutes twenty seven seconds.

722
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Speaker 1: So that's the that's the ice fucking challenge of this

723
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: solar eclipse is staring for the whole at four minutes

724
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: twenty seven second twenty Yeah, there you go, Yeah, there

725
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: you go? Are you real? How much do you like

726
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: solar eclipses? Bro? You've got like science people who are like, yeah, no,

727
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: we're traveling there. Oh yeah, you're about that. Then you

728
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: look at it. You go look at it with the high.

729
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 10: Exactly, spend the rest of your day blinking a lot

730
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 10: because there's a big blind spot there.

731
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly the rest of your life blinking. But people

732
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: are going nuts. I specifically, when our writer Jam put

733
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 1: the story in the dock this morning, I immediately was like,

734
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: oh shit, I better do something, and it's way too late.

735
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Speaker 1: So these people aren't wrong, they're just more prepared than me.

736
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Speaker 1: There's been a small spending boom across the country. Campgrounds

737
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: and rental cars have sold out. Hotel rooms are getting

738
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Speaker 1: booked up thanks to a massive number of tourists planning

739
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Speaker 1: to visit states in the path of totality Indiana, which

740
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: actually isn't that where you're Where are you held from?

741
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 8: I am from the Midwest.

742
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,399
Speaker 10: I'm from Illinois, from the midwest, Illinois, but I'll claim

743
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 10: it is Midwest. But we are older than them.

744
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: Yes, of course, Indiana is preparing to get five hundred

745
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: thousand visitors.

746
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 10: That's probably that's a lot for Indiana who goes there.

747
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 10: That's that's probably the most they've had in a while.

748
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: That's more than seven times the attendants at the twenty

749
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 1: twelve Super Bowl in Indianapolis. So they're they're in trouble now.

750
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 10: I was gonna say, that's probably more than the last

751
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 10: time the Colts were in the Super Bowl.

752
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, it's too many people. So, I let's say,

753
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: for for a city like Indianapolis. But despite the fact

754
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 1: that eclipses are totally free astronomical occurrences that anybody can witness,

755
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: corporations besides, you know, not just hotels, are trying to

756
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: monetize the eclipse as much as possible. This one sounds

757
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: pretty good, Like I'm actually not mad at this first one.

758
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: You're six Flags mad? First one, you're mad at six Yeah.

759
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: Six Flags in Texas is trying to get people to

760
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: pay them to witness the eclipse while simultaneously trying not

761
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: to puke on the Superman Tower of Terror with the

762
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: sixth Flagg Fiesta Texas Solar Eclipse at the Park aka

763
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: Solar Coaster.

764
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

765
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: That sounds cool.

766
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 8: It's cool as what's okay?

767
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 3: Because I don't I don't think the experience is gonna

768
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 3: be that cool, right, I think the the I guess

769
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 3: the hottest ticket would be what if you're because I

770
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 3: know those Superman rides. It's like basically a big J

771
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: shaped thing where they shoot you up to like fucking

772
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: seven hundred feet in the air and then you're like,

773
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: you know your bag, like you're just looking straight up

774
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 3: at the sky. I get maybe being that high up

775
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 3: in it when an eclipse is happening, you're gonna be

776
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: but that's like that's like forty people. Yeah, that's what

777
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 3: I'm like, makes funk. Yeah, and I like it only

778
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 3: lasts four minutes, so yeah, exactly, and it's like one

779
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 3: like it's actually between like deployments of the like the amusement.

780
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: Car, so it's like no one actually ever can sists

781
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: up there.

782
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 8: It's like they're just getting on and off.

783
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: It's yeah, dude, it's happening.

784
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 5: Get off so we can go up to Like sorry, that's.

785
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,240
Speaker 1: A really good point. Like they are selling an idealized

786
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: version of what this could be in your mind. That

787
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: is going to not happen for ninety nine point nine

788
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: percent of the people who play them. Most people are

789
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: going to be in line.

790
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 8: Which that's a good drift. That's a good drift.

791
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 5: It is a good better grift.

792
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 3: Okay, I definitely I'll tip my hat to the grift.

793
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 3: I think the Delta one is a has me hooked

794
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 3: a little bit more. But then realizing this will be

795
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 3: a fucking problem. I don't know how fun it would be.

796
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 3: But they're offering flights that basically followed the path of

797
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 3: totality and then you can basically they're saying unadulterated views

798
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 3: from quote, extra large windows. I'm sorry, it's just the

799
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: fucking windows that are on the plant.

800
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, like what, it's just a new plane. What are

801
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: you doing to make the windows extra large. I like this,

802
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: things are made by bowing. I don't know if you've

803
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: seen hell, but.

804
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 10: Not with everything going on with planes, I think there's

805
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 10: a mercury retrograde.

806
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 8: And then no, I am not going to be on

807
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 8: a plane during this.

808
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 3: But I can see like the people of being like, oh,

809
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 3: you might be able to see like the land like

810
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 3: become dark in these strips. Maybe that's cool, but like

811
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 3: if you only but imagine what if this is like

812
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,759
Speaker 3: a one of those planes, Like how big is a plane?

813
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 5: Is it a three? Like they got three aisles or

814
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 5: three rows in the fucking middle? Like what if you

815
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:16,959
Speaker 5: sit in the middle, or if you have a fucking

816
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 5: aisle seat? Then you're like, hey, man, can I get

817
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 5: a little bit of a look? Like fuck you?

818
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: I pay so? Did I? That's your fucking problem.

819
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 3: That's your but yeah, that's I mean, like, but you know,

820
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 3: I see they're doing a good job of you know,

821
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 3: dangling this like magical experience in front of you. But

822
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: if you just think it out for like two or

823
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 3: three steps, you're like, oh wait, yeah, like why would

824
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: I do that?

825
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: I feel like even the like news footage from the

826
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: like places that are in the path of Totality and

827
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: previous eclipses. The people remind me. I think I said

828
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 1: this before of the interviews with people after they saw Phantomenace,

829
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: Like you know, they like the when they have like

830
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,439
Speaker 1: the local news reports and they're like, and these Star

831
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,280
Speaker 1: Wars fans have been camped out for seventy two hours

832
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: for this, and we interviewed them like before going in

833
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: and after, and then you like have them coming out

834
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: and they're all like, yeah, it was oh man, it's like,

835
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: oh it was cool, so cool. Like it they're like,

836
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: is it as good as the other Star Wars better? Yeah,

837
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: Like but you can tell like like the light has

838
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: gone out like behind their eyes a little bit, Like

839
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 1: they're just like, ah fuck, like put some part of

840
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: them is coming to terms with the fact that it sucked.

841
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: Like I feel like I've seen that in some of

842
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: the footage of like parents who have like taken their

843
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: kids across the country to be there, and they're just like, yeah,

844
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: I mean, well we're in a field here, and sure

845
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: it's cool. We're glad that.

846
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 3: It's I remember I think somewhere in Oregon was like

847
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 3: the best place to see it the last time it happened.

848
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I remember seeing footage of that, people like

849
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: we're like, yo, we got so fucking cold.

850
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 5: All was like all that shit together. I was like, Okay,

851
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 5: if I was fucking AI, I.

852
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: Would be like that'd be cool.

853
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, wild, But then it's four minutes and.

854
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: Then you're like, oh, it's like okay, well that happened.

855
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, there we are worth twenty five hundred dollars for

856
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,760
Speaker 3: the overpriced plane, hotel, and cars.

857
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 8: Well, we'll have all the.

858
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: Money we spent. That's the memory.

859
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 5: Right.

860
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: When the fuck is that's right?

861
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 5: When are we getting ours? Out here? In La? Come on?

862
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 10: Man, wasn't there Come on, God, wasn't there an eclipse

863
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 10: out here? We had like an LA like mini eclipse

864
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 10: or something.

865
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 1: We had a yeah, but not like a total yeah,

866
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: Like we were never in the path of totality.

867
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 8: We've never been path of totality exactly.

868
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 3: But I mean, like, yeah, while you know people like

869
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 3: Delta doing their shit, I'm glad that the fast food

870
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 3: companies are also. They're they're on their game too, making

871
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 3: sure that they have solar eclips based puns, but really

872
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 3: just offering nothing of substance.

873
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean the Burger King is offering free

874
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: whoppers for that whole day.

875
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 5: For some reason, I wouldn't eat a whopper if it

876
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 5: was free.

877
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 10: Yeah, I know that's that connection. I'm not saying I would,

878
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 10: I actually would. I like, I like a whopper, but

879
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 10: I think we're boycotted.

880
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: I don't know.

881
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 3: I haven't had berg a year or so. No, just

882
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: just for me, I was like, every time I've had

883
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 3: a burger like a whopper, I'm like, am right?

884
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: But then that what that like? Yeah, every other time

885
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: it's bad, but when when it hits.

886
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 10: It and it only happened, Yeah, it only happens on

887
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 10: Wopper Wednesday. That's the one day that it's really right,

888
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 10: oh man.

889
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 5: Or an eclipse, Yeah, during an eclipse, it's the one.

890
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: Maybe the guys were actually gonna like make the whopper

891
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 1: good this time.

892
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 5: Really put some fucking effort in, y'all.

893
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: Pizza Hut has a total eclipse of the Hut deal,

894
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 1: which sounds like the New York Post headline after Pizza

895
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,479
Speaker 1: Hut goes out of business. Yeah, it's kind of weird

896
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: that they've gone with that, but maybe that's what they're

897
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: going for. They're like, this deal is too good. We're

898
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 1: actually not going to survive it. But it's any large

899
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: pizza for twelve dollars.

900
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, and any toppings. I think that's the big one

901
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 10: there because that's the topics are extra.

902
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:17,959
Speaker 1: Toppings will fuck you up. Twelve dollars for as many

903
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: toppings as you want.

904
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 3: Well that even but I know recently you're like you're

905
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 3: not feeling Pizza the Hut, So are you? Would you

906
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 3: entertain that load that ship down?

907
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, I love I like pizza topping, full pizza.

908
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 1: I love supreme pizza, Like that's my ship.

909
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 8: Yeah, so they're thinning. Crispy's pretty good too.

910
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: You love Pizza Hut just generally, yeah, Like I like, yeah, I.

911
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 10: Loved the mini pizzas growing up as a kid, and

912
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 10: so it just kind of became one of my favorite

913
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 10: pizza spots for you know, like cheap fast pizza.

914
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 8: It's that's better than like a Papa John's or Little Caesars.

915
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

916
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, who was the guest I was saying that it's

917
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 3: basically they're they're they're selling you Little Caesars pizza at

918
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 3: a slight is how they describe.

919
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 8: Cheese is way better at Pizza Hut.

920
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 5: Okay, but you know what crazy bread at Little Caesars.

921
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 5: That's still little is in the left.

922
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 1: Little Caesars is experimenting with like little like pizza cupcakes. Yeah,

923
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: just like they caught that out of the corner of

924
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 1: my eye and they're struggling. Not now, Little Caesars. Not now.

925
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 8: They're paying a lot of people on Twitter to promote it.

926
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like, please, please, please, I can't deal with

927
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 1: this right now. They're like, eat ours from the ass end.

928
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 5: You're like, what that's like?

929
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 3: I think that was one of the marketing when they

930
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 3: had like the fucking wild ass crust on the side.

931
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 11: They're like put it that way or something. But yeah,

932
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 11: from the back, we know how are Yeah, they likes

933
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 11: so eat the from the ass end.

934
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 8: Litza Pizza.

935
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,760
Speaker 1: Sun Chips have woken from their slumbers again. Another brand

936
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: that only we only think about once every twenty years.

937
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: The sun Chips will be selling a special eclipse themed flavor,

938
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: but only during the time of the eclipse. So you

939
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: in order to experience this, you will need to be

940
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: during the eclipse, spending that time on your laptop. Time

941
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: to buy sunships. Yeah, it's available, like the marketing says,

942
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: available for four minutes. Twenty seven seconds.

943
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 10: I Okay, this sounds dumb, but when I read the flavor,

944
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 10: I was actually like, I would do it.

945
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 8: I want to try it.

946
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 5: It's different enough.

947
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're like, oh okay, because sometimes they'll be like

948
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 3: the flavor description be so vague. They'll be like, it's

949
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 3: like a combination of the dark side of the moon

950
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 3: and the head of the sun hitting your mouth in

951
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 3: one go, and you're like, get to the point. Yeah,

952
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 3: hot pineapple hob and narrow black bean, spicy guda chips.

953
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: That's too many flavors I want to see.

954
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 8: I'm like, how are we doing this?

955
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I think they have two options. They

956
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: have pineapple, hobbinaro and black here like.

957
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 10: Flavors straight pon me tongue now, no way. Okay, Well

958
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 10: I'm gonna buy them both. I'm gonna eat them together.

959
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 8: So whatever.

960
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So this next detail of this story

961
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 1: is one of the rare things that made me say

962
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: that's fucked up out loud. Well, ri everything we just said, yeah, right,

963
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,839
Speaker 1: everything we just said. So, Eclipse tour Us are being

964
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: screwed over by greedy hotels who are allegedly canceling reservations

965
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: that were made over a year ago by people who

966
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: were like on it, Like, we've known about this eclipse

967
00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: since the sixteen hundreds, so you couldn't this ship.

968
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 8: Prepared?

969
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And they booked it over a year ago

970
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,760
Speaker 1: in order to you know, be there for the eclipse.

971
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: And the hotels are canceling those reservations because they're like,

972
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: not fair, we weren't able to gouge you enough and

973
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: so basically trying to resell the room at a higher cost.

974
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: Now the demand has risen, that make like that should

975
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: be the thing that starts the uprising, Like fuck that

976
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: people angry nerds starting a war. No, like that is

977
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: so infuriating, and that they'll just like get away with it.

978
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: They are like, yeah, it's just it's the price gouging shit,

979
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 1: it's the whole like you know the fact that they

980
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: don't mind just raising prices during the fucking pandemic because

981
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: they can. And the mainstream media is just like, yeah, well,

982
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 1: that's market got forces at work. It's like, no, that's

983
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: companies making for record profits during a pandemic, like they

984
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: this this drives me fucking crazy that it's just like

985
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 1: market forces is a get out of like morality term

986
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: that they're just gonna use to fuck people over like forever,

987
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: and like this is that is that makes me so

988
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: mad for some reason, canceling the reservations of the people

989
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: who because like that could never be me. I could

990
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: never be the person who was like, oh the things

991
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: coming up in a year like this, this would be

992
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: a great experience for my kids. I'm gonna book it

993
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: a year in advance and we'll like plan this thing

994
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: like that is. I look on those people like they

995
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: are professional.

996
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I would never that would never be me.

997
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: Wow, you're amazing.

998
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 8: You are you should benefit.

999
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 3: I feel like, though, Jackie, if you did put in

1000
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 3: that effort and then a fucking hotel canceled on you,

1001
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 3: you would be the main character in one of those

1002
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 3: like uva bowls falling down.

1003
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, like it would be yes, I would be. It

1004
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: would be over for these hopes in that hotel industry,

1005
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: in these hotels.

1006
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:10,479
Speaker 8: I'm burning down.

1007
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I would be so angry. I'm so mad.

1008
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: I've never been there, so mad on behalf of like

1009
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: complete strangers who just like kind of got screwed out

1010
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: of like some money. Yeah, but well I guess they

1011
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 1: got screwed out of the whole thing, because like now

1012
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: all the hotels are bucking up, and so they're just

1013
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: like without reservations.

1014
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 3: I mean, at the very least, like if in the

1015
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 3: most cnical version they should be like, hey man, we're

1016
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 3: thinking about cancer. Yeah, somebody just offered us a fucking

1017
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 3: back for your comfortable your double twin room that you

1018
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 3: you book you want to match, maybe.

1019
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and giving you first refusal on this one. The

1020
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: other one that your people are probably more likely to

1021
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: fall victim to is the fake ass eclipse glass take

1022
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: eclipse glasses, which will damage your eyes. Yeaheah. So basically

1023
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: you need if they don't clearly state on the glasses

1024
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:12,839
Speaker 1: that they have quote International Organization for Standardization ISO one

1025
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: two three one two DASH two certification, do not buy

1026
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: those for your kids. Yeah, you make sure it's that

1027
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 1: DASH too, not the DASH one you don't want to Yeah. Yeah,

1028
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: that one just means like oh Dash one, No, that

1029
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: will accelerate the damage. Yeah yeah, you actually won't have

1030
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: eyebrows or eyelashes. Yeah.

1031
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1032
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: Back in twenty seventeen, Amazon recalled sketchy eclipse glasses sold

1033
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 1: through their site, but they did it just two days

1034
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 1: before the eclipse and ended up facing a class action lawsuit.

1035
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 1: So nobody's gonna save you from capitalism. This is the

1036
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: message of this eclipse. Maybe yeah, eclipses have set off

1037
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: like big historic events, but in the past, maybe this,

1038
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,080
Speaker 1: this will cause cause us to overthrow capital.

1039
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 3: Something activates the whole country's manchurion in Canada. That's just

1040
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 3: like what destroy our masters. It just reminds me too

1041
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 3: of just like in like the height of the pandemic,

1042
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 3: whenever one's like, oh yeah, these are these n ninety

1043
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 3: fives I got man, I got these?

1044
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, inxactly they were not they were if they.

1045
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 3: Are not niosh approved or whatever, Yeah, shit, here we go,

1046
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 3: and people.

1047
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 5: Are just like, those are joke sunglasses from someone's barmits

1048
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:27,840
Speaker 5: for that.

1049
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: Don't you see that they have eyeballs attached to springs.

1050
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:41,600
Speaker 1: Don't you see the fake mustache thing that one still

1051
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 1: has it on. They forgot to rip it off.

1052
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:44,919
Speaker 5: That shit.

1053
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: All right, all right, that's gonna do it for this

1054
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show. If

1055
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: you like the show, U means the world to Miles.

1056
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: He he needs your validation. Folks. I hope you're having

1057
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: a great weekend. And I will talk to you Monday. Bye.