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Speaker 1: My college friend became a vegan. Now she's telling me

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Speaker 2: Once she was a vegan, now she will be vegane

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Speaker 2: I hope you get that reference, because if you do,

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Speaker 2: you're great.

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Speaker 1: I twenty eight female, have a friend since college, Mia,

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Speaker 1: twenty seven female. She moved to la in the last

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Speaker 1: year and became a vegan while I live in the Midwest. Hey,

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Speaker 1: shout out to you, Hey, shout out to me, fellow midwesterner.

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Speaker 1: I'm supportive of her decision to be vegan, but it's

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Speaker 1: overall not for me. So a couple months back, we

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Speaker 1: were facetiming and I was eating an omelet. Oh, you

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Speaker 1: have made a mistake, ope and nightmare, and she made

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Speaker 1: a comment about how can you eat eggs? Don't you

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Speaker 1: know how mistreated those animals are. By the way, this

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Speaker 1: comes from user throwaway Revenue fifty two on the r

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Speaker 1: slash Okay storytime subreddit. So I am fortunate enough to

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Speaker 1: own my own home, and as such, I have backyard chickens.

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Speaker 1: The eggs I ate literally came from the hens in

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Speaker 1: my backyard. So I brushed this off as a joke

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Speaker 1: and said, you do know I have my own chickens, right,

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Speaker 1: What do you think I'm some mobster ordering these.

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Speaker 3: Hens to lay for me as a protection fee.

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Speaker 1: If they don't meet the quota, I tie them up

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Speaker 1: outside and let the coyotes sniff around to scare them

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Speaker 1: into submission.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's a little far fetched of a response. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean it's a joke.

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Speaker 3: I think it was a well structured one as well.

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Speaker 2: It was a funny one. But boy, oh boy, I

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Speaker 2: feel like very upset with that.

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Speaker 3: You did lay it on a little thick.

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Speaker 2: Ok yeah, that's a little too much.

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Speaker 1: Mia was less than amused and continued arguing with me.

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Speaker 1: I continued to brush it off, however, so last week

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Speaker 1: I went out to visit her in La. We hadn't

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Speaker 1: seen each other in over a year. We ended up

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Speaker 1: going out to a restaurant the day I landed, and

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Speaker 1: I ordered a burger with a gluten free bun because

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Speaker 1: I'm Celiac.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: Mia started raving about how offensive it was to eat

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Speaker 1: meat in front of her and what if she was allergic.

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Speaker 1: I told her, but you aren't allergic. My eating this

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Speaker 1: doesn't impact you. And I gotta say, it's like you

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Speaker 1: you are free to make whatever choices you want in

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Speaker 1: your life, as long as you're not hurting anybody else.

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Speaker 2: I know some people who do get offended by eating

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Speaker 2: meat in front of them. I'm like, okay, I can

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Speaker 2: understand that. Sometimes I'll be like, all right, I won't

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Speaker 2: do it in front of you, like go ravid, but like,

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Speaker 2: I eat whatever I want. Don't tell me what I

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Speaker 2: can I can't eat.

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Speaker 3: If you were hamming it up and trying to offend her,

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Speaker 3: that's one thing.

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Speaker 2: But there's one thing.

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Speaker 1: If you're just eating lunch, what's the problem. Is she

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Speaker 1: the other people ordering meat.

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Speaker 2: She picked that restaurant. If you picked that restaurant where

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Speaker 2: they serve meat, you can't. You can't justify that.

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Speaker 1: Mia left for the bathroom. She came back, and everything

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Speaker 1: seemed normal until the food arrived. I thought the burger

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Speaker 1: looked weird and asked the server about it. Apparently, Mia

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Speaker 1: went and changed my order to a vegan patty while

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Speaker 1: she went to the bathroom. Dude, okay, that's messed up,

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Speaker 1: and the kicker the patty contained gluten. So she literally

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Speaker 3: I don't even know what the right word is. Is

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Speaker 3: it selfish?

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Speaker 2: You're oh, for two?

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Speaker 3: Self centered?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't, which is crazy work.

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Speaker 1: If you manage to be self centered as a vegan,

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Speaker 1: your whole thing is how you care about the animals.

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Speaker 1: But you're making this about you. It feels like you're

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Well, she just tried to poison her friend, essentially.

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Speaker 2: I know, but there's I'm waiting for her reasoning.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, I told the server this was a mistake, that

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Speaker 1: I was celiac and could not eat the burger. Mia

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Speaker 2: I'm walking out of that.

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Speaker 1: I told her, you're the one being selfish, not respecting

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Speaker 1: What the heck is the matter with you? She refused

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Speaker 1: to relent, so I left the restaurant nice, Yeah, held it,

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Speaker 1: good plan. Mia was blowing up my phone to pay

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Speaker 1: my part of the tab. I used the spare key

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Speaker 1: her roommate, and high tailed it to a hotel. Wow,

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Speaker 1: so she must have really been berating. Ope, yeah, for

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Speaker 1: it to be that bad. Now, this is the part

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Speaker 1: where I might be the a hole. I went to

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Speaker 1: the restaurant near my hotel, ordered a steak and posted

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Speaker 1: it on my socials.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that's ahole, but it's definitely petty.

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Speaker 1: So far on the a whole scale, I think Mia

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Speaker 1: is a little bit higher than you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she almost, like, without knowing, you almost ate something

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Speaker 2: that would actually hurt your stomach.

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Speaker 1: She tried to poison you because all she can think

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Of course Mia saw it and continued to spam me

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Speaker 1: on every platform imaginable. So I ended up blocking her.

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Speaker 1: Some of my friends say that taunting her with the

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Speaker 1: steak was too far. Others agreed that Mia was out

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Speaker 1: of line changing my order. I mean, both can be true,

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Speaker 1: but also, yeah, it's different if you like.

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Speaker 2: It was an eye for an eye kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: If you took that picture and sent it to her,

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Speaker 1: that's one thing. But if you just posted it everybody

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Speaker 1: every single person who posts like a picture of a.

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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, op and Mia

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Speaker 1: Sure, here's an update. I didn't expect there to be

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Speaker 1: an update on this, but here we go. Before I

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Speaker 1: a very sweet human being, she's a people pleaser and

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Speaker 1: Heather lives in town while Mia moved to La, so

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Speaker 1: Heather's still in Opie's hometown. Heather wants to broke her

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Speaker 1: I had Heather over today. She wanted to discuss the

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Speaker 1: Mia situation, and I kept reiterating that I had made

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Speaker 1: up my mind and didn't want to hear it. That

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Speaker 1: if I wanted to talk about Mia and what she did,

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Speaker 1: then I would talk to Mia, which is fair.

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Speaker 2: That's fair. That's a mediator that cares for both of you.

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Speaker 2: Seems like also doesn't hurt.

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Speaker 1: I just don't feel like this is at a point

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Speaker 1: to me almost feels like an escalation.

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Speaker 2: See maybe just to control it.

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Speaker 1: No, actually, I take that back, because the way that

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Speaker 1: she left, the way Opie left, it was like was abrupt.

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Speaker 3: There was some bad.

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Speaker 2: High it was high stressed, high hydrama, hig emotions. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: amediator is always good.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Heather said, well, it's not like all her

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Speaker 1: points aren't valid. I mean, look at your chickens. What

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Speaker 1: super provised yard time. There are three hens. Well, Heather

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Speaker 1: Mia at this point, that it was inhumane and unethical

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Speaker 1: and that stealing their eggs robs them of nutrients. And

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Speaker 1: it's not like I'm a professional when it comes to chickens.

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Speaker 2: What what are you talking about? What are you talking about?

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Speaker 3: Are you sure about that?

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Speaker 2: Are you sure about that?

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Speaker 1: I looked at her and said, are you a professional

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Speaker 1: you have cats, but you're not a professional at it.

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Speaker 1: What do you do when they're sick or acting off?

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Speaker 1: Heather says, I take them to the vet. So I say,

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Speaker 1: And then I say, exactly, these chickens are my pets.

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Speaker 1: They live a spoiled life. Heather looked away and said, well,

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Speaker 1: Mia said she was going to report you for animal abuse.

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Speaker 2: It's your chickens, it's your farm pretty much.

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Speaker 3: She's also been gone for an entire year. How she

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Speaker 2: The chickens are doing. I don't understand this argument. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Mia is playing into all of the worst stereotypes of

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Speaker 1: veganism right now, or just anyone who's just like it's

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Speaker 1: like the you know, like anytime you'd see it in

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Speaker 1: It's just too holier than now. And look, veganism is great.

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Speaker 1: I have zero problem with veganism.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're cool.

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Speaker 1: If my problem comes from anybody with any sort of

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Speaker 1: when I have an issue with you.

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Speaker 2: It's it's the if you don't do what I do,

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Speaker 2: you are like a demon. You're the worst part, You're

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Speaker 1: I have a great example the man to my right,

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Speaker 1: well technically my left, but he doesn't eat pork, so

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Speaker 1: it would probably be really annoying if I incessantly hounded

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Speaker 1: it to the point where now I'm switching his orders

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Speaker 2: And I can. I'm like, pork will hit hurt my

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Speaker 2: stomach like pork chops have hurt my stomach. They will

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Speaker 2: small bit hre's my stomach because I don't eat it.

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Speaker 3: That would be annoying.

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Speaker 2: It's annoying. But I again, I support whatever you want

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Speaker 2: to eat and you have you can do that. We

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Speaker 2: support that. Yes, we have our vegan friends. We literally

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Speaker 2: vegan friends. You know us like they know us. We

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Speaker 2: gullets were like, if you're not a vegan, you're the devil.

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Speaker 2: It's like, okay, you can order whatever you want. Or

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Speaker 2: if we're going out to dinner or go out to eat,

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Speaker 2: just respect our options and we are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why different strokes for different folks.

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Speaker 3: That sums it up.

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Speaker 1: I took Heather outside to see the coop. All three

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Speaker 1: of my girls ran up. Oh, she calls the chickens

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Speaker 2: You don't change their order. You don't ostracize them for like, dude,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is doing all wrongs here. I know there are

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Speaker 3: So if you don't want to be friends with Heather,

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Speaker 2: We got another one for you. Though I was planning

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Speaker 3: Ah oumation.

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Speaker 2: I had a childhood friend since I was about twelve,

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Speaker 2: Right, we share similar immature, dumb humor, and I think

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Speaker 3: I don't know if that was the right way to

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Speaker 2: That's what they put down as what I read. That's

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Speaker 2: I think high key. She's always been envious. I had

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Speaker 3: Thank you, whoever you are, Thank you my city is

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Nelly for toato to know you're right next

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Speaker 1: Literally the beginning of the story. You say, I guess

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Speaker 2: That's not a friendship. I mean, so do we, but

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Speaker 1: Oh you can't see it, but it was almost, but

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Speaker 2: She has used me for years and I gave her

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Speaker 2: engaging with her posts. She runs a reselling business boutique

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Speaker 1: Your friend's got a drop shipping scheme if people want

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00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,560
Speaker 1: to buy cheap crap from her at a marked up prize,

442
00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:25,960
Speaker 1: let her make her money.

443
00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,159
Speaker 2: Give me my money, and has really gotten heated about

444
00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,080
Speaker 2: that after I told her how I just tried to

445
00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,920
Speaker 2: distance myself from her and I don't care about being

446
00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,680
Speaker 2: performative online anyways. I tried to just distance myself and

447
00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,520
Speaker 2: let the friendship fizzle out. But then when my wedding

448
00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,600
Speaker 2: happened and people posted photos online, she threw a tantrum.

449
00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,880
Speaker 2: She unfollowed me and got a bunch of her hometown

450
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Speaker 2: friends to do the same. Good riddance. We are almost

451
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Speaker 2: forty by the way, Yeah, double good, double good riddance.

452
00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,440
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, don't all have to put energy

453
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Speaker 2: into this if you don't want to. So I reached

454
00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,359
Speaker 2: out and sent a thought out message, trying to not

455
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Speaker 2: be offensive to her and just speaking how I felt

456
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Speaker 2: and why I didn't invite her. She went on to say,

457
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Speaker 2: I'm pecting and I always fight with people, and I'm

458
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Speaker 2: the common denominator because I've had a history of beefing

459
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Speaker 2: with girls in our hometown as a teenager slash adolescent.

460
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Speaker 2: I came from a super dysfunctional, abusive household and was scrappy.

461
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta love somebody holding how you were basically

462
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Speaker 3: twenty plus years ago.

463
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Speaker 2: And you'll, I was gonna say, and you'll wonder why

464
00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,399
Speaker 2: Op left her hometown. Yeah, very early.

465
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Speaker 3: It sounds like she had a great reason to.

466
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Speaker 2: I've since gotten a lot of therapy over the years

467
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Speaker 2: and removed myself from the talks of home situation, slash people,

468
00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,720
Speaker 2: slash the town. That makes sense. She threw a lot

469
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Speaker 2: of low blows about my past at me, and I

470
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Speaker 2: guess she would since we do not connect on any

471
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Speaker 2: deep level. But you know what, guys, you can connect

472
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Speaker 2: with us on a deep level every weekday at three

473
00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:43,320
Speaker 2: pm PST. You can do it live on YouTube, Facebook, TikTok, Twitch,

474
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Speaker 2: just tap our profile.

475
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Speaker 1: Heck, we might even be live right now, so I

476
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Speaker 1: go check on that right after this, because we're gonna

477
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Speaker 1: collect our thoughts and then ginish this story.

478
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Speaker 2: I mean, listen, there was no friendship to begin with here.

479
00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,240
Speaker 2: It just seemed like it was like, oh, this is

480
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Speaker 2: like cool. I guess we're in the same small town.

481
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Speaker 1: I don't know if there you could say there is none,

482
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Speaker 1: because the fact that they've known each other for so long.

483
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's gone like it's gone up and down

484
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Speaker 1: for sure. I don't know, it's just been up and down.

485
00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,200
Speaker 1: And it seems like, oh, I.

486
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Speaker 2: Mean, okay, there was probably a friendship to begin with,

487
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Speaker 2: but friendships do fizzle out and friendships end, and that's that.

488
00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:13,879
Speaker 3: You can't if they're not maintained.

489
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Speaker 2: Certainly like and this is this is just not being maintained.

490
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Speaker 1: You don't just stay friends with somebody forever with no

491
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Speaker 1: effort being put into the relationship.

492
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it.

493
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Speaker 2: Seems like now how it seems like they both really

494
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Speaker 2: didn't want to put in any effort, to be honest,

495
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Speaker 2: I mean a little bit here and there, it seems

496
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Speaker 2: like in like very distinct small parts that we didn't

497
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Speaker 2: get from this, But it just seems like overall, was

498
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Speaker 2: there really like were they really in each other's lives

499
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Speaker 2: that much? Doesn't I guess it doesn't really feel it

500
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Speaker 2: doesn't get they've just.

501
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Speaker 1: I think maybe the just the twenty plus is that

502
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Speaker 1: they've known each other for that long.

503
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Speaker 2: That's the one that you guys got you've known history.

504
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,520
Speaker 3: But but it's it's the false uh what is that?

505
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,399
Speaker 3: The sunk cost fallacy. It's like, this doesn't sound like

506
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Speaker 3: a person you'd want to be friends with because you

507
00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,720
Speaker 3: know her engagement got split up and you didn't know

508
00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,919
Speaker 3: about it for four to five months after it happened,

509
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Speaker 3: which is that's already someone who's not that with you.

510
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 2: Also, just the way that she's acting this age about

511
00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,200
Speaker 2: being super petty, where that shouldn't even be in your vocabulary.

512
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,400
Speaker 2: It's just so like, oh, she'd invite me to her wedding,

513
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 2: everyone on follow her from the hometown that she doesn't

514
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,359
Speaker 2: care about, Like, who cares? Opie is like, okay, I

515
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:15,359
Speaker 2: don't care.

516
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Speaker 3: Being petty is a timeless classic.

517
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Speaker 2: I'm not going back.

518
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Speaker 1: Being petty is like legos appropriate for ages three to

519
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Speaker 1: ninety nine.

520
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 2: Anyways, I just feel gross about all of this, and

521
00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 2: it just put me in a bad place mentally. I

522
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,800
Speaker 2: know I made the right decision, and when we were

523
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 2: hashing it out, I stooped to her level and it

524
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Speaker 2: was very reactionary. I have another thought out response to

525
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Speaker 2: send her, but I'm wondering if I should just let

526
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Speaker 2: it be and let her in those hometown Me and

527
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 2: girls just think what they wanted me.

528
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Speaker 1: That you hit the nail on the head right there.

529
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Speaker 1: Who cares what they think? You've got a whole life

530
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Speaker 1: somewhere else. These people have no bearing on your They're

531
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,200
Speaker 1: probably just jealous happiness or general well being.

532
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, if they're just crap talking you and you don't

533
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 2: need that, especially if you're already with living a stressful

534
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 2: life with your job. Hey, you just got married. You

535
00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 2: should be having a good time. People should be supporting you,

536
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 2: not bringing you down exactly. And again, it looks like

537
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Speaker 2: this friend didn't bring anything remotely like positive to your

538
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 2: friendship or like to your life. To be honest, you're like, okay, Like,

539
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:13,479
Speaker 2: I guess this is just convenient to be friends.

540
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Speaker 3: What was her response?

541
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Speaker 1: It was like, after she was like, you didn't tell

542
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 1: me this for four months, You're like, she was like, well,

543
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Speaker 1: you're not allowed to be anything but sad and upset

544
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,919
Speaker 1: for me. It's like, okay, that's not how like human

545
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Speaker 1: beings work.

546
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Speaker 2: You could have told me maybe like a month later,

547
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 2: but I literally had to dig and ask you. I'm like, oh, wait,

548
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 2: you're not wearing the ring. What's up?

549
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that is the end of that story. My

550
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 1: friend has a past with my boyfriend. She won't shut

551
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Speaker 1: up about it. Hey, shut up, Maybe just don't talk

552
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,479
Speaker 1: about that's so easy to just shut up about it.

553
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Speaker 1: Me twenty seven female, and my partner thirty one male

554
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,120
Speaker 1: of almost three years have a mutual close friend who

555
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Speaker 1: was the one who introduced us, who is also obsessed

556
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Speaker 1: with telling everyone how close they are and is obsessed

557
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: about their once close relationship. It's gotten to the point

558
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Speaker 1: where me and my other half are discussing and planning

559
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,280
Speaker 1: on getting engaged soon, and I don't want this girl

560
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Speaker 1: to keep living in the past about their friendship. He's

561
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Speaker 1: chosen me as his best friend now and she should respect.

562
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Speaker 3: That as my friend.

563
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from user nervous ad forty

564
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Speaker 1: nine eighteen on the r slash Okay storytime subreddit. So

565
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Speaker 1: we'll call this friend Alice. Alice has known my other

566
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Speaker 1: half since they were about sixteen and seventeen years old.

567
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Speaker 1: She's three years older than me. When they first hung out,

568
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Speaker 1: my other half hadn't had previous female friends, and they

569
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 1: once tried it on with one another and shared a

570
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Speaker 1: peck on the lips. They realized they were only supposed

571
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Speaker 1: to stay friends and stayed platonic.

572
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Speaker 2: Since okay, yeah, that's fine, you tried and you realize

573
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Speaker 2: that that wasn't a spark.

574
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Speaker 1: From his point of view. They were once close, but

575
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Speaker 1: not anymore. He's the kind of guy who, because he's

576
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Speaker 1: close to his sister, shares lots of close, platonic friendships

577
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Speaker 1: with girls. Alice, however, has had many boyfriends and no

578
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 1: male friends other than my other half who will call Jaden.

579
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Speaker 3: She also only has a sister.

580
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Speaker 1: She constantly tells everyone, and I mean everyone, all of

581
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Speaker 1: our friends, strangers are university lecturers and work colleagues, about

582
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:04,880
Speaker 1: how close they are.

583
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Speaker 2: That's really weird.

584
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 3: Especially given like the they didn't date.

585
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Speaker 1: They just like were like, maybe we'll kiss, and they

586
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Speaker 1: kissed once and then they were like, I guess.

587
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 2: Actually I want to know the timeline was it ria

588
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Speaker 2: to them kissing? Was she like about that, like, I mean,

589
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Speaker 2: I maybe I don't know, like, oh, Jade and I

590
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: are best friends, but then they kissed or did it? It

591
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Speaker 2: was an acascy theory.

592
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Speaker 1: The story she's getting from her husband is not the

593
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Speaker 1: full story, because that makes zero sense to me that

594
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Speaker 1: someone could be that infatuated with somebody and had never

595
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Speaker 1: really had an even an actual like romantic relationship with them.

596
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 2: Maybe it could it could be I don't know. She

597
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 2: doesn't have any.

598
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Speaker 3: Mail complicated apes.

599
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Speaker 1: She would tell people things like how he'd buy her

600
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Speaker 1: period pads. He would for any female friend, talk on

601
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Speaker 1: the phone for hours. She's famously a talker and you

602
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: cannot shut her up. She's always the center of attention.

603
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Speaker 4: That they would.

604
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 3: Cuddle, now, this is a weird one, he says.

605
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Speaker 1: Sure, he would hug her occasionally, but no more than

606
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Speaker 1: any of his male friends, et cetera. But she's been

607
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,959
Speaker 1: socifically uses the word cuddle to sound more than platonic.

608
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: She says stuff like every time he used to see me,

609
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 1: he'd lick my face. This is another strange, out of

610
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: context fantasy she makes up. He says he barely remembers,

611
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: but he knows as a teenager, he'd wind his mates

612
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 1: up when they were intoxicated and lick them male, female,

613
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: et cetera.

614
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a little odd, but at least he did

615
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:22,400
Speaker 2: it with everyone.

616
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, teenagers do dumb stuff.

617
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Speaker 2: I have not heard of anyone licking people on the

618
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 2: faces of the show affection I have.

619
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: But she has literally told people like our university tutors

620
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: this information. She never says he did it to everyone.

621
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: She exaggerates and makes it seem special to only.

622
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Speaker 2: Her she's boring. She's a boring person. She has to

623
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,880
Speaker 2: be a boring person. I'm sorry. She has nothing going

624
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Speaker 2: on in her life to literally tell everyone and to

625
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Speaker 2: fluff it off.

626
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Speaker 1: Well, for some reason, she's just like fully fixated and

627
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: attached on this one guy one.

628
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's both of those things. She's fixated on Jaden

629
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Speaker 2: and their past whatever that was. Yeah, I don't know,

630
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 2: but she's also just bored that, like, she can't move on.

631
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 2: And she's telling literal strangers who do not care about this, literally,

632
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: people who are like, that's she just wants attention. She's like,

633
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 2: she just wants attention.

634
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 3: I guess that's cool or whatever. Stop talking to me.

635
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 2: She wants attention.

636
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: She makes it seem like their play fights as children

637
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: were only special to them, even though he play fights

638
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: with everyone. She recently told him she misses that they

639
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: don't play fight anymore. He was like, well, we're in

640
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: our thirties, Alice, dude, perfect response. Uh, he play fights

641
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 1: with me instead, his best friend and future wife. She's

642
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 1: told everyone of our mutual close friends multiple times that

643
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Speaker 1: they once kiss.

644
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: She's so hung up on the mountain, dude, that kiss,

645
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 2: that kiss must have been crazy.

646
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,719
Speaker 3: This is like scary behavior. Like it's like so fixated

647
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 3: that it's like.

648
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: I might want to get a reary. I might want

649
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: to get a restraining order.

650
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: Jade was flabbergasted when I told him she'd mentioned their

651
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: kiss maybe on ten different occasions. He had no idea.

652
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 1: She's so obsessed. She told me all her other boyfriends

653
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: have had issues with Jayden, except her current ones.

654
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 3: She has a boyfriend.

655
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 2: I wonder why, because you talk about kissing this dude

656
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 2: ten times a day with people who you don't even know.

657
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, why are you talking about this guy like that

658
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,199
Speaker 1: when you have a boyfriend so weird. She's told everyone

659
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: how they once joked to make a pact to get

660
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: married if they were single at thirty.

661
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 2: I'm I'm running away from this girl.

662
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 3: I actually have a pact like that, but it's not

663
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 3: at thirty. It's like fifty something.

664
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: I have a packed I have a packed at like

665
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 2: fifty something too.

666
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but she's mentioned it so often. I think she's

667
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: partly thought it was true. This will be how she

668
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: introduces him to new people. We've just started a new

669
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: course at university and the girls were mentioning when they

670
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: think they're getting engaged, including Alice to her boyfriend, and

671
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: I said, oh, can I tell you guys something cute?

672
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 1: Me and Jaden went looking for rings the other day

673
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: in town. She immediately launches into telling these new girls

674
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: about her and Jaden's close relationship. She never gives me

675
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: a chance to introduce my boyfriend to the people because

676
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: they've already heard about him through her. But for her

677
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: boyfriend she's been with four three plus years, Oh, that's weird,

678
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: this is weird. I would bring this up. I don't

679
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: know why no one has stopped her. What Why is

680
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: everyone letting her like, especially Ope and Jaden.

681
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 2: Jayden should be the one.

682
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,120
Speaker 3: To stop me, to press the issue.

683
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would be very bothered if I heard this

684
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: on repeat daily.

685
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this is basically like harassment. It is

686
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: a form of harassment.

687
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 2: Why are you talking about him so much?

688
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 4: Like?

689
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 2: Your obsession with him is really weird? Go be obsessed

690
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 2: with your boyfriend of three plus years?

691
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's this is wild.

692
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 1: But for her boyfriend she's been with her three plus years,

693
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,959
Speaker 1: she introduces him as her scientist boyfriend who's a doctor

694
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: and is the CEO of his own company. A big

695
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,959
Speaker 1: difference from my best friend who's a boy who used

696
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: to lick my face, oh, and is dating Ope. It

697
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 1: comes across as disrespectful because people are always weirded out.

698
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 3: So you've got like.

699
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: A trophy husband or you've got a trophy boyfriend and

700
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: the real love of your life that you kissed once

701
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: when you were seventeen is getting married and you don't

702
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: know how to cope with it.

703
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 3: He was like, calm, let me know if I hit

704
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 3: the nail on the head with that. In the comments, it.

705
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: Comes across as disrespectful because people are always weirded out.

706
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: Most of my family and friends agree that it seems

707
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: like Alice basically acts like she wants to keep Jayden

708
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: around forever as some kind of backup option. She's confused

709
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: about things. She calls time they spend hanging out together,

710
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: which is very rare anymore. Alice and Jaden time is

711
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: what she calls it, as if it's some cute sea thing.

712
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: Me and my male best friend, let's call him Tim,

713
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: are so platonic. There's absolutely no cute sea language in

714
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: our friendship. She forever lives in a universe where they're

715
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: like twenty years old again and close pals, but these days,

716
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: he doesn't wish to hang out with her. He thinks

717
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: they've naturally grown apart anyway, regardless of the fact that

718
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 1: he's with me. He criticizes her actions a lot to me,

719
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: as they've grown into very different people. For example, he's

720
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: a cop and she uses a lot of illegal substances

721
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: and expresses very little interest in sustaining much of a friendship.

722
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: Then why doesn't he say that to her?

723
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the final piece of the puzzle here is

724
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: why isn't Jayden taking more of an active role?

725
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 3: Why is in this stop?

726
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: Why isn't op taking initiative? Obviously Jayden taking it like

727
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: I said it earlier, But why is no one stopping

728
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: her from doing this?

729
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: Would like a direct like you don't even have to

730
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: do it in person, just reach out to her over you,

731
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: through text or a phone, whatever, But reach out to

732
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: her and be like, hey, all this talk about us

733
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: needs to stop.

734
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: Me plain and simple.

735
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: Don't make it any time more complicated than that. Yeah,

736
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: you need to stop saying these things that aren't true.

737
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 2: Done easy.

738
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: When we were first dating for about the first six months,

739
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: maybe she'd say things to me that made me almost

740
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: break up with him. She once told me that she

741
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: found him attractive since he started working out and grown

742
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: a beard. She told me she's always going to have

743
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: love for him, and bear in mind she's the kind

744
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: of girl who always gets what she wants. Huge pretty

745
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: privilege issue going on here, over confident, et cetera. She

746
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: used to say things like we'd never work out jay

747
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: and A because he wants kids and I don't. And

748
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have worked out because he's unsure about marriage

749
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: and I want to. So she's just like telling her

750
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: friend like, yeah, you guys wouldn't work. Actually, we're working

751
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: for each other, like, you guys definitely wouldn't work. I

752
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: used to say, well, surely, the there's a hundred reasons

753
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: you'd never date someone you also say is like a brother, right, Alice,

754
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: But she never comes up with any The thought of

755
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: dating my male best mate makes me throw up a

756
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: little in my mouth, and Tim would find that hilarious

757
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: as a mutual thought. My other UNI friends once addressed

758
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: me and said they were confused with who's dating who

759
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: because Alice seems to mention Jayden all the time. They

760
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: had no idea her actual boyfriend even existed. Her own

761
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: boyfriend even joked the other day about her constantly mentioning

762
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: Jayden's name, boyfriend, What are you doing?

763
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 2: I feel like everyone here is like, this is weird.

764
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: Why why does she keep bringing up Jayden? And no

765
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 2: one's asking her? Like everyone's saying it around her, but

766
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: no one's bringing it up to her.

767
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 3: Nobody is pressing the issue here. Yeah.

768
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: I never previously mentioned anything to her, as I didn't

769
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: want to upset the apple cart. But it's been five

770
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: years of hearing her talk about him, and since we're

771
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: about to start work together and on a new university

772
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: course where she's already started mentioning him again, it's like

773
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: the final straw that broke the camel's back. I'm sick

774
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: of him being quote unquote hers as his almost fiance.

775
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: I should come first. She knew him a while ago.

776
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 3: Fair.

777
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: I respect their past friendship, but he's not seventeen anymore.

778
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: He's almost thirty.

779
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: Two seventeen thirty two fifty five ninety one hundred. We

780
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 2: don't care, We don't care.

781
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 1: We just want you here in our stream when we

782
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: go live every weekday at three PMPSD on YouTube, on Facebook,

783
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: on Twitch, on TikTok.

784
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 3: Just tap our profile and you're.

785
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: In a we might even be live right now. It's true,

786
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: but we need to make sure we let Alice know,

787
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 2: and we hopefully Alice does know to just leave Jayden's

788
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: name out of her freaking name.

789
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's clear that this is not a

790
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: you know, at first, maybe you brush it off, but

791
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: if it's something that's been going on for multiple years

792
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: and it's just gone completely unaddressed, it's like something needs

793
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: to be said.

794
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 3: If there are people in your environment right that are.

795
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: Your questioning, is questioning everything, Well, this person, i assume

796
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: is like a friend to some extent, Okay, else she

797
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: wouldn't be around her for five years. Okay, they're starting

798
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: a university course that what. So if you have problems

799
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: with something you're friends doing, you have to let them know.

800
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: If you're friends with them, you could tell them. If

801
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 2: you're strangers. The fact that she's telling strangers, yeah, it's nonsense.

802
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 3: There's something just.

803
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: Everyone around her, including op is enabling it.

804
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: And if it's not a case where she's like actually

805
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: secretly wants to be you know, steal your man, she'sused

806
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: to be like, Okay, I'll try my best to change

807
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: the way I speak.

808
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 3: Because that's all it is. Yeah, I guarantee if she talks.

809
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: Cutesy about him and says all this stuff and all that,

810
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: if you got to you have to speak it though.

811
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: But that's what I say it.

812
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: Guess what if you bring it up now it's fifteen years, Yeah,

813
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 2: fifteen years or whatever. I've heard just doing this over

814
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 2: and over and over again. If you tell it to

815
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: her right now, she's be like, no, what are you

816
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 2: talking about?

817
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 4: Nah?

818
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: I mean what, But you have to this whole story.

819
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: I think it needs to be. I hope that the

820
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: end of the story is Alice being pressed on this issue,

821
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: the fact that everybody has told her you need to

822
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: change the way you. I don't understand that, my almost fiance.

823
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's find out. I really need to find out,

824
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 2: because at this point, I don't think all is the

825
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: bad guy particularly or the a hole.

826
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: I don't think she's done anything egregiously wrong.

827
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: But she's just doing weird stuff. And like she just

828
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: keeps talking about Jada, and no one is stopping her

829
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: from talking about Jada.

830
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just kind of cringey. Yeah, it's cringy and uncomfortable.

831
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: Now, after this rant, I'm Basically after advice, me and

832
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: my partner want to address this with her. He thinks

833
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: her behavior is so weird and it's off putting to

834
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: him thinking of ever being mates with her again, which

835
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: is tricky when we want to have a wedding. Me

836
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,959
Speaker 1: and Alice get along very well when Jaden is out

837
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: of the question. We work in the same place, in

838
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: all of the same classes at university. I don't want

839
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: to cause a huge upset, but how do I make

840
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: her see that his behavior towards her has never been

841
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: anything special and she needs to understand that she's deluding

842
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: herself that there's this special connection anymore. He calls other

843
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,719
Speaker 1: girls his best friend, girls who she can't stand. I, however,

844
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: love them. They're lovely and never make it awkward. They

845
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: have brothers and you can tell they know what platonic

846
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: friendship is.

847
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: So wow.

848
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 3: You ask, how do we talk to her about this?

849
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: Well, I think the person who needs to talk about

850
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: this is not you, it's Jaden.

851
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 2: It's because it's only about Jaden.

852
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: I mean it, it impacts both of you. But the

853
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: root of the problem is that Jaden. Her internalized dynamic

854
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: with Jaden is like not placed in reality.

855
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 2: It sounds like, yep, it's just very obvious. And I'm

856
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: the fact that he's like, I'm not okay with this.

857
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 2: I'm not okay with this. This is I'm just that

858
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 2: the friendship is not even there. But she keeps talking

859
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 2: about it like it is. Someone needs to stop at

860
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: least pointed out to her like, hey, this is not okay.

861
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: And I don't even think you need to do a

862
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: thing where it's like you you blast her and say

863
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: it's like you were never special to him, because that's

864
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: just gonna make her get defensive. I think you got

865
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: to put the kid gloves on and you gotta be

866
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: real gentle and you know, just let her know, hey,

867
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,439
Speaker 1: even though we did have a close friendship, right, that's

868
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: in the past, and you're continuing your non stop bringing

869
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: it up is putting a strain on us, and you know,

870
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: and some of the people around us get confused.

871
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 3: It's just a week.

872
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 2: It's uncomfortable. It makes everyone from comfortable. Yeah, when you

873
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 2: keep bringing it up ten times a day.

874
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 1: So you very calmly, coolly explain that you're uncomfortable and

875
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: if she doesn't take that, well, then that's not something

876
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: that's it's not a person you even want to have

877
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: in your life because she's not respecting your boundaries.

878
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. Again, this is definitely on Jayden. He

879
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: should take initiative, especially with I mean, I've repeated it

880
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: so many times now they just do it.

881
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 3: Well, you know what.

882
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: I think one thing we're forgetting here is that Jaden's

883
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: not even really that close with her anymore. So maybe

884
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: the best thing to do might be to go together,

885
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: maybe to have.

886
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 3: This conversation as a group.

887
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: I agree, maybe have Jayden take point on it, but

888
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,800
Speaker 1: just be there. Since you're probably a better support for Alice.

889
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: If your goal is to not have a big fallout here, right,

890
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to be able to, you know, let

891
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: her down gently as much as you can. So, seeing

892
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 1: as Jayden's not really a friendler, you might want to

893
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: be there to help out. But that's my advice. And

894
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: that's also the end of the story. Wow, and the

895
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 1: end of this episode.

896
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 4: Wow.

897
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: So if you love us, make it's you subscribe, We

898
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: love you and see you tomorrow.

899
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 5: My mother in law revealed my miscarriage at Thanksgiving but

900
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 5: blames me for ruining dinner.

901
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 4: Oh don't do that, don't do it.

902
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 5: I'm thirty two female. I spent Thanksgiving with my in

903
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 5: laws and it was one of the most upsetting days

904
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 5: of my life. My husband and I have been trying

905
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 5: for a baby for around three years. Last year I

906
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 5: got pregnant and miscarriage twice.

907
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 4: All really really tough.

908
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 5: That's so hard. It was devastating, and my greatest fear

909
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 5: is that I'll never be able to have a child

910
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 5: with my husband. By the way, this comes from Embarrassed p.

911
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 5: Ten thirty six on the r slash Okay Storytime separated,

912
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 5: so when October I found out I was pregnant for

913
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 5: the third time, we were thrilled, but also cautious because

914
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 5: of my history with miscarriages. Originally, the plan was to

915
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 5: keep it between us until I made it to the

916
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 5: second trimester. Unfortunately, I have a well intentioned, yet nosy

917
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,840
Speaker 5: in law. We were at dinner one night with my

918
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 5: in laws and my mother in law noticed I wasn't drinking.

919
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 5: My mother in law asked if I was pregnant, and

920
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,880
Speaker 5: I am horrible at hiding my emotions, so my reaction

921
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 5: to her question gave it away. I admitted that I

922
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 5: was pregnant, but explained that we're very cautious and want

923
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 5: to keep it private until I make it to the

924
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 5: second trimester. My father in law and mother in law

925
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 5: said that they understood and agreed to keep it between us. Sadly,

926
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 5: I miscarriaged about a week ago, and I was crushed.

927
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 5: Oh my god, poor, that's so hard.

928
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 4: That is so hard.

929
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 5: It's been terrible, but I'm trying to stay busy to

930
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,319
Speaker 5: keep my mind off of it. Initially, I wanted to

931
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 5: skip Thanksgiving, but I wanted my husband to see his family,

932
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 5: and I thought it might lift my spirits to be

933
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 5: surrounded by loved ones. I wanted to tell my mother

934
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 5: in law about the miscarriage in person, since it felt

935
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 5: strange talking to her about it over the phone, but

936
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 5: she wasn't free to see me this week. My plan

937
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 5: was to talk to her the day after Thanksgiving, when

938
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 5: we could have a moment alone. Almost immediately after we

939
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 5: arrived at my in law's house, my mother in law's

940
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 5: sister hugged me and congratulated me on the pregnancy. Ah, no,

941
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 5: that is so painful. I was shocked, since my mother

942
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 5: in law agreed not to tell anyone.

943
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I.

944
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 6: Was gonna say, like, oh, it is not the worst

945
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 6: thing ever if you know, people come up to you

946
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 6: or like, I could understand that happening, but she told them, hey,

947
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 6: I don't want to tell anyone because right.

948
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 5: Oh. I considered saying thank you to not draw attention

949
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 5: to myself and put a damper on the night, but

950
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 5: I couldn't hide my emotions and I told her I miscarried.

951
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 5: She hugged me and apologized for my loss. A few

952
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 5: minutes later, my sister in law came over to us

953
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 5: and congratulated me. I'm guessing a different sister in law.

954
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 5: I started tearing up as I explained for the second

955
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 5: time that I miscarried.

956
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 4: Oh so bad.

957
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 5: They were both kind, but I was very emotional and

958
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 5: frustrated since my in laws agreed to keep it private

959
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 5: and this was the exact situation that I was seeking

960
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 5: to avoid.

961
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

962
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 5: A few minutes after I spoke to my sister in law,

963
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 5: my mother in law pulled me to the side and

964
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 5: asked why I didn't tell her about the miscarriage. She

965
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 5: said it hurt having to hear the news from her

966
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 5: older sister instead of from me directly. You poor thing.

967
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 7: I'm so sorry it hurts a miscarriage. Yeah, you should like,

968
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 7: come on, come on, geez.

969
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 5: I said that I wanted to tell her in person

970
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 5: and was planning on telling her in the morning. When

971
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 5: we had a moment to ourselves, I said, I wasn't

972
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 5: expecting to be confronted about the pregnancy since she agreed

973
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 5: to keep it private. Y, yeah, come on, ah. My

974
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 5: mother in law said she only told her sister and daughter,

975
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 5: which was to be expected in this situation, since she

976
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 5: was so excited.

977
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 6: No, it was expected that you wouldn't tell you because

978
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 6: that's what you said, what you would do, right.

979
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 5: Right. I was furious, but didn't have the energy to

980
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 5: argue about it, so I said we should talk about

981
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 5: it later and enjoy the holiday. I left my mother

982
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 5: in law and went socialize with the other relatives. When

983
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 5: it was time to eat, my mother in law stood

984
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 5: up to give the blessing. She started to talk, but

985
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 5: then got emotional and began to cry.

986
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 6: I know, ah, put an ice you in the comments.

987
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 6: I know this is going to be so bad.

988
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 5: She asked the family to keep me in their thoughts

989
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,360
Speaker 5: and prayers. Since I recently miscarriage, you're standing up and

990
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 5: announcing this to everyone. Oh my goodness.

991
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 6: We need to miscarry you, mother in law, Okay, we

992
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 6: need to abort immediately.

993
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:46,839
Speaker 5: She added that I've miscarried twice before, and it's been

994
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 5: an emotional experience for everyone. Dude, this is not your

995
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 5: experience to share. That's insane.

996
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 4: Not no, not at all.

997
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 5: I'd only told my mother in law and father in

998
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 5: law about the previous miscarriages, so she is once again

999
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 5: broadcasting my personal medical information. My mother in law started

1000
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 5: talking directly to me and said she knows I'll get

1001
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 5: through this and then I'll make an amazing mom. Sunday,

1002
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 5: I couldn't control my emotions and started sobbing in front

1003
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 5: of the entire family. This all just happened to She like,

1004
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 5: just miscarried.

1005
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 6: This poor woman is grieving for the third time. Yes,

1006
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 6: and this mother in law keeps torturing her.

1007
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 3: Yes, of course.

1008
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 6: I like how she's like, oh, I'm I don't like it.

1009
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 6: But you know, she's like, oh, I I'm overwhelmed that I

1010
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 6: couldn't help with me militia.

1011
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 3: Who wouldn't Yes, who wouldn't help?

1012
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 5: Absolutely, this is such a painful, painful experience of like

1013
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 5: just getting your hopes up and then being devastatedly let.

1014
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 4: Out Three times and like like so recently. Yeah, it's

1015
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 4: just so bad a.

1016
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 5: Lot, and then in front of everyone, this is just

1017
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 5: there's so many levels to this. I was crying so

1018
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 5: hard that I was practically choking on my tears and

1019
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 5: couldn't catch my breath. Oh. My husband was furious and

1020
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 5: asked his mom why she thought it was appropriate to

1021
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 5: tell people about my pregnancy and miscarriages. Good on the husband, Yeah, yes.

1022
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 5: My mother in law responded by saying she loves us

1023
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 5: so much and was just very excited to be a grandma.

1024
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 4: Shut up, you don't deserve to be a grandma.

1025
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 3: It's just I.

1026
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 5: Can't even I'm speechless. I'm speechless.

1027
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 4: What's wrong with you?

1028
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 5: With respect to the miscarriages? She said, we deserve the

1029
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 5: family love and support during this difficult time. My husband

1030
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 5: announced that we were leaving, and we left before the

1031
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 5: turkey was even served. Oh, I wonder how quiet that table.

1032
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 4: Was when they left, right and then and then you know,

1033
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 4: you know, the mother in law is like, why did

1034
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 4: you leave when I was about to serve?

1035
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 5: It's so rude? Did food?

1036
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,760
Speaker 3: And it's like, uh.

1037
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 5: No, we know exactly how this is going to go down.

1038
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 5: I cried myself to sleep, and I woke up feeling horrible.

1039
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 7: Gosh, someone Protector Proctor Blade.

1040
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 5: This morning, my mother in law showed up at my

1041
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 5: house on announce no. She said she wanted to talk

1042
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 5: to us about what happened. My husband was still fuming,

1043
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 5: and I told him to let me speak to his

1044
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 5: mom privately to avoid another fight. I was still upset

1045
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 5: about what happened, but I wanted to make peace and

1046
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 5: was willing to accept her apology since the situation has

1047
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 5: been hard on everyone. If she even apologizes, I might add.

1048
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 4: Like she does not deserve right now. It's like, yeah,

1049
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 4: just leave, just.

1050
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 6: Let me, like, literally, this mother in law cannot let

1051
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 6: OPI have one second.

1052
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 3: One second.

1053
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 5: My mother in law and I sat down together, and

1054
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 5: instead of apologizing, here we go, she lectured me about

1055
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 5: how I should have told her about the miscarriage before

1056
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 5: sharing the news with the other relatives. What do we expect, Well,

1057
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 5: she didn't even have time because she didn't even know

1058
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 5: that you were going to share it with other people,

1059
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 5: You stupid person. I want to say so many insults,

1060
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 5: but that we'd be demonetized. She said it was hard

1061
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 5: to hear the news from her sister when she was

1062
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 5: looking forward to a happy Thanksgiving. Oh, you poor thing,

1063
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 5: losing your Thanksgiving dinner because it's something that you did.

1064
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 4: I the gravy and everyone was there.

1065
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 6: I'm so sash up, you old freaking granny.

1066
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 5: I won't even play the tiny violin. That's how much

1067
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 5: you don't deserve.

1068
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 4: You don't even deserve it. Yeah.

1069
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 5: She was also upset that I dropped this horrible news

1070
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 5: at dinner and that I should have found a way

1071
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 5: to tell her before the holiday, even if it was

1072
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 5: over the phone. I listen, I'm not a violent person. However,

1073
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 5: I would slap her.

1074
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 4: Oh it's.

1075
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 5: Just you got too far across the line. Okay, But

1076
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 5: I don't condone myolence or whatever I do. She also

1077
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 5: said that if I was still so emotional over the miscarriage,

1078
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 5: I shouldn't have come to Thanksgiving and risked upsetting all

1079
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 5: the guests.

1080
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 4: Girl, Like, what at this point? Like, what do you

1081
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 4: even want?

1082
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1083
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 4: Do you.

1084
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 2: Like?

1085
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 5: That's just like you are the problem.

1086
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 3: You are the problem.

1087
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 5: The mother in law. She didn't do anything. She's griefing

1088
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 5: and you need to leave her alone. Okayoo poo, that's

1089
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 5: me to mother in law.

1090
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 4: Okay, at least.

1091
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 6: No no, No, you're freaking mother in law. You want

1092
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 6: to be a granny, but guess what you're not.

1093
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 4: You're just old.

1094
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 6: Yes, you're just an old lady with no grand baby.

1095
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 6: Boom boom.

1096
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 5: How's a feel?

1097
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:02,720
Speaker 4: Gotcha?

1098
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 5: Not words than Opie though, so be quiet. Oh yeah,

1099
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 5: she said, she knows I'm going through a lot and

1100
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 5: forgives me, but she wanted to be honest about her feelings.

1101
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 5: There's nothing even to be forgiven.

1102
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 4: For No, no, not even close.

1103
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 5: I was floored. I told my mother in law that

1104
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 5: I may have made some mistakes, but all of this

1105
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 5: could have been avoided if she had followed through on

1106
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 5: her promise to keep the pregnancy private. Yes, like she

1107
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 5: wasn't even snooping, Like she didn't even announce that they

1108
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 5: were pregnant. She was, she just was caught not drinking.

1109
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 6: Literally like Opie, Like, yeah, OPI made mistakes, but it's

1110
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 6: like the mother in law made mistakes that are like hurtful.

1111
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like there's.

1112
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 6: A difference between like a hurtful mistake and I'm like,

1113
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 6: oh I could.

1114
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 4: Have like like strategic I don't even know.

1115
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just like it's like the only mistake that

1116
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 5: OPI could have made is like telling the mother in

1117
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 5: law that she's pregnant, or just be around the mother

1118
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 5: in law. That would that would be a mistake.

1119
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 6: I think the only mistake she made was not getting

1120
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 6: her on a flight to Canada and be like all right,

1121
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 6: there you go, right, and.

1122
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 4: Then everyone just abandons her. That would be great.

1123
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, I said, she owed both my husband and myself

1124
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 5: an apology. Good for you.

1125
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm so glad stand on business queens.

1126
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 5: Yes. My mother in law asked if I would also

1127
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 5: apologize for making a scene at Thanksgiving. I didn't think

1128
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 5: I owed her an apology under the circumstances, and I

1129
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 5: expressed that clearly.

1130
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 4: Good.

1131
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, this is so refreshing.

1132
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 4: Were communicating.

1133
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 5: Yes, there are so many stories where it's like, please

1134
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 5: stand up for yourself, and you're doing it and I'm

1135
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 5: so glad.

1136
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 4: WP.

1137
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 5: She left in tears and said I was lashing out

1138
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 5: because of the traumatic pregnancies. You poor thing.

1139
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 4: You're about to experience some trauma.

1140
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, because of these I can't like we said, we

1141
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 6: can't say it, but you watching you know.

1142
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 8: No, you know, got some physical therapy if you want

1143
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 8: some therapy from us.

1144
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 5: If you want some uh, normal therapy or for us,

1145
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 5: you can join us live on YouTube and TikTok and

1146
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 5: Facebook every single weekday at three pm PS. Just hop

1147
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,479
Speaker 5: our profile do it and we'll be there for you. Yeah,

1148
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 5: we'll be ready to fight all of your enemies, just

1149
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 5: like this mother. Yeah, but there is a little bit more.

1150
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 5: But I think we need to like.

1151
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 3: Take a breather.

1152
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 4: Let's talks.

1153
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,240
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

1154
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 5: I just I'm just like this is it's just I

1155
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 5: just you know, you know what I mean.

1156
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 6: I think this might be one of those situations where

1157
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 6: you go to husband.

1158
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 3: Now, husband has stood up for I.

1159
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 6: Yes, I don't necessarily think husband did anything wrong per se, right,

1160
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 6: but I think that this mother in law is so insane, yes,

1161
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 6: that you got to sit down with a husband and

1162
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 6: be like, listen, I cannot keep like having a mother

1163
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 6: in law go with this.

1164
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 4: I think maybe you go to her and be like, listen,

1165
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 4: if you.

1166
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 6: Want to, we want to have you in our life,

1167
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 6: we want to have you in the grand baby's life.

1168
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 6: But if you keep doing what you're doing, it's gonna

1169
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 6: be absolute game over and like, you know, apologizing for

1170
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 6: for what you've done, understanding what you've done, stop like

1171
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 6: completely stopping any of that behavior. Anytime we bring up

1172
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 6: a thing you you're like, I'm sorry, and we don't

1173
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 6: see you do it again. That is what needs to

1174
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 6: happen for uh my wife to be in your life

1175
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 6: and then most importantly for mother in law the rand baby. Yes, yes,

1176
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 6: that's a good point too, because like we've we've heard

1177
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 6: it in stories before where the person's like, I'm not

1178
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 6: going to ask my partner to cut off their mom.

1179
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 3: Sometimes they should, but.

1180
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to ask.

1181
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 6: But in this one, I think you could say like, hey, look,

1182
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 6: I want to limit my uh time and exposure to

1183
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 6: you if you're going to keep doing this, if you

1184
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 6: keep doing what you're doing, Yeah.

1185
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 4: And the baby's time and whatnot, Yeah, that wonderful day comes.

1186
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 4: I feel like that is.

1187
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 6: What it takes now, because I don't know what else

1188
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 6: is going to make her see the freaking light other

1189
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 6: than being sent to the good man upstairs.

1190
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 5: Yes, this is yeah. I think I think Opie's husband

1191
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 5: has like done everything that he well, not everything that

1192
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 5: he can, but he's done a good job of he's

1193
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,240
Speaker 5: saying his piece, you know, And I mean the reason

1194
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 5: that op wanted to talk to her privately was so

1195
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 5: that there wasn't a fight because he she knew that

1196
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 5: the husband would do that.

1197
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 4: You know, yes, she was.

1198
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 2: Right.

1199
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 5: But I think you're right. I think he can go

1200
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 5: extra step further and just like lay down the law.

1201
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 5: Just like listen, you cannot say this, you cannot do

1202
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 5: that or else, like, here's are the consequences. You can't

1203
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,959
Speaker 5: see your future grand babies when you ever, when we ever,

1204
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 5: you know, make it happen. I think I think I agree,

1205
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 5: But there is even more of this story.

1206
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 3: Oh mallow, My husband.

1207
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 5: Said I shouldn't apologize and also canceled our Christmas plans

1208
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 5: with his family. Yes, yes, yes, that's what we want.

1209
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 5: While I think my mother in law behaved poorly, part

1210
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 5: of me wants to apologize to diffuse a situation. No,

1211
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 5: don't do it, u uh, don't do it. I also

1212
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 5: know that this has been challenging for my mother in

1213
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 5: law as well, and we don't always react perfectly in

1214
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:42,720
Speaker 5: these situations. You're just you're too nice right now. Yeah,

1215
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 5: I also feel badly that I let my emotions get

1216
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 5: the better of me and put a damper on the evening. Girl, girl,

1217
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 5: you had no choice.

1218
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 4: This is yeah, don't even don't even sweat it.

1219
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is something you could not control, like not

1220
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 5: even not even the miscarriage, but like the reaction to it,

1221
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 5: not in your control, especially so recently in your mother's

1222
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 5: You know what, It's just you're good. So am I

1223
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 5: the a hole for how I handled the situation and

1224
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 5: for refusing to apologize when my mother in law visited

1225
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 5: our home. And that's the end. But I think we

1226
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 5: made our answer pretty clear. Nope, no, that's that's all

1227
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 5: you even need to say.

1228
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 7: That's all she wrote, literally literally literally no, not the

1229
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 7: a whole.

1230
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 4: So there you have it.

1231
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:33,959
Speaker 5: That was a crazy one.

1232
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 4: Oh my goodness, crazy one.

1233
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, but that is the end of that story. My

1234
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 5: sister in law through a tantrum on my wedding day

1235
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 5: and they don't want my husband to leave. There you

1236
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 5: go context. Both me and my husband live in different countries,

1237
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 5: and we got married in his country at my sister

1238
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 5: in law's house. Okay, cool. I was supposed to get

1239
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 5: married at his mom's house in the garden, but she

1240
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 5: refused to accept our view on things, so we changed

1241
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 5: locations as his sister insisted that if we didn't want

1242
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 5: to do his mom's house because she refused to hear us,

1243
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 5: then we can do it at hers be so nice.

1244
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 5: By the way, this comes from a lead reasonable thirteen

1245
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 5: fifty six on the our slash Okay storytime separate it so,

1246
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 5: bearing in mind, I never met any of them at

1247
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 5: this point in person, only spoke on video call a

1248
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 5: few times and over messenger on Facebook. So we flew

1249
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,359
Speaker 5: to his country, me, my five year old son, and

1250
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 5: my at the time fiance. We arrived and got to

1251
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 5: the car where his sister was waiting with as all

1252
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 5: our bags wouldn't fit in my husband's car. I said

1253
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 5: hello and thank you and said I'd hug her, but

1254
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 5: I'm all gross from the flight and it was kind

1255
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 5: of hot in his country, so extra gross when in sweatpants.

1256
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 5: I was there for two weeks. We visited his parents

1257
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 5: a few times before the wedding, but we always had

1258
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 5: to get home as my son's sleeper teen was seven pm.

1259
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 5: He's five, makes sense, right, Even though my wedding was

1260
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 5: really close, I didn't want to disturb his routine. So

1261
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 5: I have severe social anxiety, to the point where I

1262
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 5: struggle to leave the house and have to push myself

1263
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 5: to go places to meet people like restaurants going for drinks.

1264
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 5: I also don't drink. So one day, his mom told

1265
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 5: us that we have to go to her house to

1266
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 5: have a family get together or something at six pm.

1267
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 5: They were all fully aware that my son goes to

1268
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 5: bed at seven pm and he has issues with sleep

1269
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 5: and behavior if he doesn't get enough sleep, as we

1270
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 5: all do when we get very cranky. We need to

1271
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 5: get one of those shirts for the baby that's like,

1272
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 5: don't talk to me unless I've had my coffee, you

1273
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 5: know what I mean. However, if his behavior is extra

1274
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 5: it becomes extremely dangerous to take him out, even if

1275
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 5: we're holding his hand, as he likes to bolt and

1276
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 5: run in roads at that point. So I like to

1277
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 5: keep a sleep.

1278
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 3: Very regular.

1279
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 4: Breathing continue, right.

1280
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 5: We went to his mom's house anyway, because none of

1281
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 5: them care or understand that my anxiety is raging at

1282
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 5: this point. And it turned out to be a surprise

1283
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 5: engagement party kind of.

1284
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:19,720
Speaker 4: But they're getting married.

1285
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 5: Yeah not goodness saying, none of his siblings knew it

1286
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 5: was a surprise, and I can't really say it was

1287
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 5: an engagement party as it was definitely for my husband's birthday. Okay,

1288
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 5: they're so silly. Yeah, So I tried to engage and talk,

1289
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 5: but everyone talked about sports. I know, zero thinks about sports.

1290
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 5: You liked sports and stuff. I couldn't even try to

1291
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 5: pull a conversation out of close ended answers. Anytime I

1292
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:48,800
Speaker 5: tried to make conversation, I ended up having a severe

1293
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 5: panic attack and we left around nine pm, which if

1294
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 5: you have children and know the consequences, then it was

1295
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 5: a very difficult day afterwards. They did this to us

1296
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 5: several days that we were there before at the wedding,

1297
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 5: and his mom cried at our engagement party because she

1298
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 5: was losing her son. I did say thank you for

1299
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 5: everything and appreciated that they did something for us, as

1300
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 5: we didn't really fuss about wedding gifts and whatnot. Pausing pause.

1301
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 5: She's losing her son to a marriage. Yep, not how

1302
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 5: that works? Really not?

1303
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, let's go to the cemetery and wait. No, oh,

1304
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 6: he's still alive. Yeah, oh wait, he's still right here.

1305
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 5: Right like, just entering a beautiful new chapter of his life.

1306
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 4: So if you love your son so much, why didn't

1307
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 4: you marry him?

1308
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:42,439
Speaker 5: Ooh, gotcha? Right?

1309
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1310
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 5: So the wedding day rolled around and his sister let

1311
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 5: me use her shower, to which I appreciated very much

1312
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,359
Speaker 5: and thanked her constantly for My husband spent the whole

1313
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,720
Speaker 5: day running errands, and I spent the whole day getting

1314
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 5: everything set up with no one speaking two words to me,

1315
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 5: getting ready. All was going well, and I found out

1316
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 5: that I had pockets in my wedding dress, which is

1317
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 5: the best thing ever. Dude, that's a win. That's a win.

1318
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 5: It's just a I love it when dresses hat pockets.

1319
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 5: I never used my pockets and dresses like maybe once

1320
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 5: or twice. I just don't have a lot of dress

1321
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 5: in the hat buckets, but that's always so exciting.

1322
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 6: I Naima gave me a pair of pants the other

1323
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 6: day and I literally tried to put my hand in

1324
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 6: the pocket.

1325
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 4: He was like, no, this is not good. I know,

1326
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 4: it's that's that's a struggle.

1327
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 5: Was it just like closed or was there just a pocket?

1328
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 4: It was no pocket, it was sowed. I'm like, this

1329
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 4: is so it was.

1330
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 5: Jean's Oh my goodness, it was silly.

1331
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 4: It was silly.

1332
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 5: That's crazy. His niece, who was twenty six, officiated our

1333
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 5: wedding as I tried my hardest to involve all his

1334
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 5: family in our wedding, and I didn't want them to

1335
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 5: feel left out or anything or anything like that. I

1336
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 5: tried so hard to include everyone and ask their opinions

1337
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 5: on things. His mom did a beautiful job with our flowers.

1338
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 5: Even if she didn't want our wedding to happen, she

1339
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 5: made it very clear. Oh boy. I asked his niece

1340
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 5: not to do a speech, as I know she didn't

1341
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 5: know me at all that well, so it's a little

1342
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 5: difficult for her to do a speech about someone she

1343
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 5: doesn't know.

1344
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 4: Why would that even be on the tate?

1345
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 2: Why?

1346
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 4: Why do you even have to like turn that down? Why?

1347
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 3: We right?

1348
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 5: Like I know this is in the fiance's home country,

1349
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 5: but like, did any of Opie's family go good?

1350
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 3: Because like that's a great question.

1351
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 5: It sounds like it's just all like the fiance's family

1352
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 5: being involved. That's interesting. Yeah, So she did one anyway

1353
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 5: about my husband and how sad she was Jesus and

1354
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 5: how she has to share him. Now that's kind of weird.

1355
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 5: That's kind of a what is.

1356
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 4: Wrong with you guys?

1357
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1358
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 2: Can you just like stop forever?

1359
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 5: It's kind of a weird thing to say because you're

1360
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 5: not gonna like I have the same relationship to him

1361
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 5: as like like a niece and a wife.

1362
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 3: Not the same relationships.

1363
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 6: What change like to these people that are like, oh,

1364
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 6: I'm losing you. Like what, it's okay, I get a

1365
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,479
Speaker 6: little bit, you know, like the parents, like like there's

1366
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 6: tears of joy and like that passing off like it

1367
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 6: is it is a chapter.

1368
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 4: And all all this it's not a loss, but it's

1369
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 4: not all it's.

1370
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 3: Not a loss.

1371
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 6: If anything, you're gaining a new family, right, and then

1372
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 6: like the cousins, it's.

1373
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 7: Like what what what difference does it even make to you?

1374
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 4: Like logically anyways, just.

1375
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 5: Be happy for it, happy, Like I wonder. The only

1376
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 5: thing I can think of is like if after the

1377
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 5: wedding they're moving to oh P's country or something.

1378
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but even so I.

1379
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,440
Speaker 4: Don't then you gotta be like, you know, oh, we're

1380
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 4: gonna miss you being here.

1381
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, like you still have to like mourn over it,

1382
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,919
Speaker 5: like so publicly at the wedding and be.

1383
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 4: Like dang, I'm gonna I'm gonna miss Opee. So he's

1384
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 4: a freaking fine, right, My cousin's so beautiful. A shut up,

1385
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 4: so weird, shut up.

1386
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 5: I couldn't figure out how to connect my phone to

1387
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 5: the speaker, and one was connected already and they wouldn't disconnect,

1388
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 5: so there was no space for a DJ, so me

1389
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 5: and my husband made a Spotify playlist for it, which

1390
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 5: the songs was skipped because his niece didn't like them.

1391
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 4: Girl too freaking bad.

1392
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 5: This niece literally wants to marry her uncle.

1393
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:26,880
Speaker 4: Dude.

1394
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 5: Ew, this is weird.

1395
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 4: This is bad.

1396
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 6: All of all of Obie's family, all of the husband's family,

1397
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 6: wants to marry him.

1398
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 5: This is yeah, so strange.

1399
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 4: Yikes.

1400
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 5: So, guests, we're leaving, and my friend had left too

1401
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 5: at this point, leaving us with just his family. I'd

1402
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 5: been there since ten pm with everyone ignoring me, and

1403
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 5: my son, again being five years old, really did need

1404
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 5: to go to bed. So I start getting ready to leave,

1405
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 5: trying to tidy up and move things, and everyone telling

1406
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 5: me to just leave it there, it's fine, don't worry

1407
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 5: about it. I thought me cleaning up, getting out of

1408
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 5: my wedding dress, et cetera, was a clear indication that

1409
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 5: we were getting ready to leave. Apparently not. I had

1410
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 5: my stuff on a chair and made sure I had

1411
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 5: everything together, and we had ordered the Uber already, and

1412
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 5: my sister in law screams across the room, not talking

1413
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 5: to me, pulls me aside, or even just asks. She screams,

1414
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 5: are you leaving already? I replied with yeah, we're exhausted,

1415
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 5: and I'm still getting used to the time zone differences,

1416
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 5: as it would be two am in my country, to

1417
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 5: which she responded with, oh, get over it, and stormed off.

1418
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 5: Why is this such a problem, Why this makes absolutely

1419
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 5: no sense.

1420
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 8: It?

1421
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1422
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 5: She then proceeded to start packing things up and getting

1423
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 5: annoyed and throwing things around tidying up, then stormed to

1424
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 5: her room crying. Her best friend went in to check

1425
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 5: on her. I stood there, stunned, and my husband looked

1426
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 5: at me and rolled his eyes. From here, her mom

1427
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 5: followed suit. They were talking her or whatever. I don't

1428
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,320
Speaker 5: know because I wasn't there. I sent my husband in

1429
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 5: because he is her brother to talk in nothing. I

1430
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 5: went over to the door and said, honey, Uber is here,

1431
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:33,880
Speaker 5: and said, and she said, it can leave.

1432
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 4: You can leave the plan.

1433
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 5: Oh what is your problem?

1434
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 6: Become a Martian and fly off of this universe to

1435
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 6: never return again.

1436
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 5: Someday Uber will partner with SpaceX and you can get

1437
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 5: a rocket and get you. I was confused. I said,

1438
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 5: what can leave? And she said the uber can leave.

1439
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 5: So I said, why why are you crying? I still

1440
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 5: have another week here. We can spend all the time together.

1441
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:10,200
Speaker 5: And she said I'm busy. And I said, busy for

1442
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 5: the entire week where you don't have five minutes to

1443
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 5: see us? And she said yeah. At that point, I

1444
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 5: won't lie. I was extremely annoyed by her behavior, her

1445
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 5: being fifty years old, I was expecting like a twenty

1446
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 5: three year old. Oh my gosh.

1447
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 4: What Yeah, you need to just retire from life?

1448
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, girl, Yeah, he turns up.

1449
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 4: We need to revoke your subscription.

1450
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 5: You're going to be aged out.

1451
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just just stop, can't. You just can't.

1452
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 5: As I was walking back to get my stuff to

1453
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 5: the uber, I said, rather loudly but not shouting, that

1454
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,919
Speaker 5: you're all acting like he's leaving you forever. His mom

1455
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 5: heard and then replied, he is because he's moving to

1456
01:03:57,120 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 5: your country. Okay, just like I thought. Contextgo oh wait,

1457
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 5: but Op says, which is untrue, as he still isn't

1458
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 5: in my country yet. We've been married almost a year.

1459
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 5: Visa doesn't take a day, you know. Okay, Okay, so

1460
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 5: Op is writing this a year after they got married. Ish,

1461
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure it sounds.

1462
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 6: Like yeah, and and and they're waiting for the visa

1463
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 6: process to go through.

1464
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 4: So it's like, oh, he's still there.

1465
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, it seems like half and half because it's like, oh, yeah,

1466
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 6: he's still there now, but it seems like eventually, once

1467
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 6: a visa is approved, he probably will go to peas

1468
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 6: home country.

1469
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 4: Right, but that so doesn't give a license? Yeah? Crazy,

1470
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 4: I mean.

1471
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 5: Even so, it's like, there's so many going away parties

1472
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 5: that have happened in life, and it's like, and none

1473
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 5: of them are about the guests who are losing this person,

1474
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Yah, Like it's all about

1475
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 5: you know, I'm really sad to see you go, but

1476
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 5: this is gonna be amazing journeylah blah blah blah blah.

1477
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 5: This is literally marriage. Like you should be happy for

1478
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 5: them and then be sad on your own time. Okay,

1479
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 5: But what.

1480
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 6: If instead I just be a big fat, fifty year

1481
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 6: old cry baby and I just be an idiot?

1482
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 3: What about that? And you never consider that option?

1483
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 5: I really didn't. That's a that's an interesting take.

1484
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 4: Let me be a big cry baby idiot. And in peace,

1485
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 4: my goodness.

1486
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:24,919
Speaker 5: So I got my stuff to head out towards the uber,

1487
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 5: and I shouted to my husband, not at my husband,

1488
01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,680
Speaker 5: that if he isn't coming, that I'm going without him,

1489
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 5: and proceeded to leave. Yeah, they have It's not even

1490
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 5: that she doesn't want to hang out. They have a

1491
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 5: literal five year old that needs to go to bed,

1492
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 5: So like that should be even more understandable.

1493
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 6: Also, like no one's offered to like babysit anything, right,

1494
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 6: Like if my my sibling is getting married and they

1495
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 6: have like a step son, I guess yeah, I'd be like.

1496
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, like let me watch him for a night.

1497
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 4: You get you guys go out like they're literally but

1498
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 4: of course, but of.

1499
01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 6: Course that would be too that would be too helpful,

1500
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 6: that would act, that would be actually kind. We can't

1501
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 6: be we can't be nice to our our brothers getting married,

1502
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 6: and we can't do that. We have to we have

1503
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 6: to torture them. Why we be nice on their wedding.

1504
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 5: You're so right, John, I never thought about it.

1505
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 4: I see we have to torture them. This is it's

1506
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 4: it's wedding tradition.

1507
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 5: My sister in law's husband wasn't there, So we only

1508
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 5: found out the day after and held our wedding video

1509
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 5: as ransom until I apologized. It just keeps getting better, John.

1510
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 4: Dude, just keeps getting better. We got to hire a

1511
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 4: different videography, y'all. I can't trust them for nothing.

1512
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:42,920
Speaker 5: Goodness, yikes. But you know who will never hold you

1513
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:48,640
Speaker 5: hostage is us? Because you guys could just join us

1514
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 5: live every weekday at three pm PSD on YouTube, Facebook,

1515
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 5: TikTok and we're probably live right now, so you just

1516
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 5: have to tap our profiles.

1517
01:06:58,240 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 4: Come on in.

1518
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 5: We won't hold you hostage, but you are welcome and.

1519
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 4: We won't be big cry babies.

1520
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 5: Yeah. I promise there is more? But should we jump

1521
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 5: into it?

1522
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:07,439
Speaker 4: Can we can?

1523
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:08,640
Speaker 3: We can break it in a little bit.

1524
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 5: Let's let's just take a second to debrief, shall we.

1525
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 5: There is more, but let's take a beat.

1526
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:22,520
Speaker 4: Tell the husband, like yo, get your people, Yeah, what.

1527
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 5: Is the husband doing and all this?

1528
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 6: Like yeah, it's just like hey, I am you know, ope,

1529
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 6: he's not in her home country right now, Like yeah,

1530
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:33,920
Speaker 6: just sit down and tell them, Like I mean, I

1531
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 6: guess it's kind of like already over, like the wedding.

1532
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,520
Speaker 5: Right It's like already happening.

1533
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 4: I can't, like, we can't be dealing with it. We

1534
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 4: got we got the kids.

1535
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 6: This is just too much, Like I can't dealing with

1536
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 6: all these crazy people and tell them, tell them like

1537
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 6: similar to what we said in the other story, like

1538
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 6: if you guys can't behave basically like treat him like

1539
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 6: like the five year old child, like if you cannot behave,

1540
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 6: you don't get to spend time with us, come to

1541
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 6: weddings and things like that, like you got you gotta

1542
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 6: be an actual kind you know what, not even you know,

1543
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 6: you don't even got to be a kind human being.

1544
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 6: Just don't be an absolute freaking monster. That's that's literally

1545
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 6: the only requirement.

1546
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 5: Yes, Like I think I think this means that the niece,

1547
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 5: the mother in law, the sister in law. I think

1548
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 5: they need to go to bed. I think they went

1549
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:29,679
Speaker 5: to bed too late last night and now they're grouchy

1550
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 5: in the in the.

1551
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 3: In the.

1552
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 4: Very literal or not, who knows.

1553
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just so insane. I think my husband definitely

1554
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,600
Speaker 5: needs to like say some more stuff. Just looks like

1555
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 5: he was like comforting the sister but also like you

1556
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 5: gotta like that, yeah, or.

1557
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 6: Like maybe a little bit of not playing both sides,

1558
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 6: but just not fully like just needs to stop.

1559
01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's yeah, I want to know because OPI mentioned that,

1560
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 5: like the mother in law didn't want this wedding to

1561
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 5: happen in the first place. Yeah, I want to know

1562
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 5: the tea about that. I want to see, like what

1563
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 5: her even reasonings are about not liking op because that's

1564
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 5: just a whole nother story.

1565
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 4: It sounds like, yeah, I mean she seems terrible.

1566
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, but there is more to the story, let's

1567
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,280
Speaker 5: get it. So Opie says, I haven't spoken to any

1568
01:09:23,320 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 5: of them since deleted, since I deleted and blocked them

1569
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 5: on all social media platforms. Good for you. And my

1570
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 5: husband also refuses to speak to his sister after that,

1571
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 5: which is his choice. Okay, that's good.

1572
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:38,000
Speaker 1: So this husband is doing something, although I will quickly

1573
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:42,000
Speaker 1: say yep, did he explain to.

1574
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 6: Her why and be like listen, uh, you know, we

1575
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 6: would have loved to have had you a part of

1576
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 6: our lives, but this is what you did wrong and

1577
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,600
Speaker 6: this is why we can't hang on maybe even, but

1578
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 6: I think that would be good to get like still

1579
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 6: still block and like everything else, but like again, just

1580
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,000
Speaker 6: good to like let people like tell them where they

1581
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 6: did wrong, right to hopefully they might not do it

1582
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 6: to someone else, or maybe they'll get better or something.

1583
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 6: Not that you need to deal with that. You can

1584
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 6: keep them blocked.

1585
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 4: And all that.

1586
01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:15,719
Speaker 3: But right, right, that's my only my own.

1587
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 5: I think I think that's a good good point for sure. Honestly,

1588
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 5: it was one of the worst days I've had. I

1589
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 5: also still don't have my wedding video. Oh that's right, Yeah,

1590
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 5: I don't wait. I'm just remembering now that one person

1591
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 5: who has the wedding video held it hostage want an

1592
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 5: op to apologize, but for what, like for marrying the fiance.

1593
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 4: It was it was their reasoning. Was she upset the sister.

1594
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 4: It was the sister in law's husband.

1595
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 6: So it's like like, oh, you made my wife upset.

1596
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:54,799
Speaker 6: It's like yeah, because she's like horrible. Yeah, and she's

1597
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 6: harassing me on my wedding day.

1598
01:10:57,479 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 9: Right, you budget apologize to me.

1599
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 5: That's so insane. But just give her the wedding video.

1600
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 5: She deserves that.

1601
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 4: Just give her the wedding video.

1602
01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 5: Yes, I don't think I want it either. Oh wow, Yeah,

1603
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 5: I don't know who is the a hole, but I

1604
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 5: was very done. I'm not a social person. It was

1605
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:21,600
Speaker 5: my wedding, both me and my husband was done for

1606
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 5: the night, and I just wanted to go to bed.

1607
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 5: We had been there for eleven hours at that point,

1608
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 5: as we arrived at ten am to set up. Yes,

1609
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 5: this is just still the day of the wedding.

1610
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:33,000
Speaker 4: Oh my god.

1611
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 5: I just don't feel that anyone should have reacted that way,

1612
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 5: and that is the end of the story.

1613
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, yeah, you don't. You don't have to

1614
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:44,720
Speaker 6: do anything special. Glad you cut them off and like

1615
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 6: protect your peace right.

1616
01:11:46,439 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 5: So you're absolutely right. No one should have responded that way.

1617
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 5: That was insane, That was sosy.

1618
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 4: They're not they're not regular humans. Yeah, they're they're insane people.

1619
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just like five year olds stuck in a

1620
01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 5: fifty year old spots.

1621
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 4: Take the zero off.

1622
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 3: Yeah that's how old they are.

1623
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:07,200
Speaker 5: That's such a big difference, zoo. But that's the end

1624
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:07,879
Speaker 5: of the story.

1625
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 6: My intoxicated husband spewed racial insults at a wedding. She

1626
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 6: won't apologize, cancel her, get out now. So my brother Ben,

1627
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 6: twenty five years old, and my sister in law Lisa

1628
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 6: twenty four years old, goten married earlier this year. It

1629
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 6: was a beautiful ceremony held in a countryside venue, followed

1630
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 6: by a meal and then speeches. However, our cousin, Tiffany

1631
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:34,679
Speaker 6: twenty six years old, wasted because there was an open bar,

1632
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 6: could not stop but to show.

1633
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 4: Her true colors.

1634
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 6: By the way, this comes from Recent Midnight three nineteen

1635
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 6: on the r slash Okay storytime subreadit. So the parents

1636
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 6: of the bride were holding a beautiful speech welcoming our

1637
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 6: side to their Whanau family. I'm probably completely messing that up.

1638
01:12:54,600 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 4: So flame me in the comments.

1639
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:04,040
Speaker 6: And the connections of of oha, oh love, oh flame

1640
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 6: me again will bring us closer. Tiffany interrupts, saying like

1641
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 6: we're all like white here, speak English. Hey Tiffany, I'm

1642
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:20,120
Speaker 6: about to speak prison on your face because that's where

1643
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 6: I'm sending you right now.

1644
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:26,599
Speaker 4: I'm gonna m oh wow.

1645
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 6: So I was sitting directly behind Tiffany and I shoved

1646
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 6: her on the.

1647
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 4: Back and try to tell her to shut it, being

1648
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:35,719
Speaker 4: tipsy myself. So we got we got, we got tipsy

1649
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 4: on tipsy crime going on, right, Okay.

1650
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 6: Tiffany didn't say anything more during his speech, but her

1651
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 6: comment had already upset more or less everyone at the wedding,

1652
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 6: including Ben and Lisa as it should. To make it

1653
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:53,120
Speaker 6: matters even worse, there was a multitude of people of

1654
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:58,000
Speaker 6: color at the wedding, and uh, Lisa's parents had a

1655
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:02,080
Speaker 6: lot to do with the indigenous community in our country. Also,

1656
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 6: at the time, Tiffany was dating to me twenty five.

1657
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 6: Rust me again if I'm mispronouncing that twenty five who

1658
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 6: was an indigenous person of color. Lisa does not freaking

1659
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:19,080
Speaker 6: get it, Lissa, your freaking racist idioms.

1660
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on.

1661
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 5: I also kind of like the detail of like her

1662
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 5: showing her true colors, which is like no color. She's

1663
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 5: like what, I don't even know, Like if there's even

1664
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,920
Speaker 5: a joke in there, I just think it's I.

1665
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 6: Agree, I was thinking of the same thing trying to

1666
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,839
Speaker 6: make I think I think you crushed it. As Ben's

1667
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 6: only sibling and family member to make his speech that day,

1668
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 6: as our parents aren't very into public speaking, during my

1669
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 6: speech of welcoming Lisa into the family, Tiffany interrupted my speech, Mmm,

1670
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 6: what do you think?

1671
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 4: What do you think she's gonna say?

1672
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 6: She's gonna say something beautiful and inclusive, not at all.

1673
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 5: I think she's gonna say things that we cannot repeat

1674
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 5: on this show, I think, all right.

1675
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:05,720
Speaker 6: So I gave her a look of disappointment, and I

1676
01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 6: quickly finished my speech just to get it over anymore platform, right,

1677
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 6: we got a deep platform lease over here.

1678
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 4: It doesn't end there, Okay.

1679
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 6: The bridesmaids were in the bathroom after the speech, speaking

1680
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 6: of the obvious disgust of Tiffany's outburst.

1681
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 9: Tiffany had overheard as she was in one of the

1682
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 9: toilet stalls and came out ready to start a fight

1683
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:32,320
Speaker 9: with them.

1684
01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 5: That's like, that's like what would be set up in

1685
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 5: like a sitcom or something like that. Excy like the

1686
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 5: bully in the eighties movie burst out and starts like

1687
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,240
Speaker 5: talking about your outfit or something like that. Like that's

1688
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 5: what's happening right now, except it's so much worse.

1689
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 4: To start, like clawing you as the nails or whatever.

1690
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:58,480
Speaker 6: So it quickly escalated to other guests kicking Tiffany out

1691
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 6: w move. Tiffany was then put in our aunt Jean's car,

1692
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 6: who was about to take Arnana home, and of course

1693
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,679
Speaker 6: she still had no shame and roll the window down,

1694
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 6: flipping everyone outside off.

1695
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 5: Oh my god.

1696
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 6: Well, her own brother told her that she does stupid things.

1697
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 3: She'll win stupid horizis.

1698
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 4: And she is most definitely a winner in that sense.

1699
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 6: The rest of the celebration went without a hitch, dancing

1700
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 6: and drinking the night away.

1701
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 4: We have an update. I have a feeling this is

1702
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,240
Speaker 4: not the last of Tiffany.

1703
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 5: Oh absolutely not right. I feel like this wasn't even

1704
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 5: the first of Tiffany. I feel like this was probably

1705
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess Opie said like something about showing

1706
01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:48,919
Speaker 5: her true colors in this situation.

1707
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:50,920
Speaker 3: This is this is Opie's cousin.

1708
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, people probably know that she that she sucks, but

1709
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 6: maybe they don't spend enough time with her. I mean,

1710
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 6: like a cousin. I could see it's like, oh, we

1711
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 6: only like see each other for like holidays or whatever. Right,

1712
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 6: and it's like, right, okay, now now we see what

1713
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 6: what Tiffany really about?

1714
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we got to cut that out.

1715
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1716
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 5: I also think this is such a sad note. But

1717
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:13,680
Speaker 5: I also think it's kind of interesting and weird that

1718
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 5: she said, like, we're all white here, so speak English,

1719
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 5: because the typical insult and the typical racist thing to

1720
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 5: say is like we're in America. It is already very wrong,

1721
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:24,799
Speaker 5: you know, But Also.

1722
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 3: It's like.

1723
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:32,440
Speaker 5: There's so many like different like like white people will speak.

1724
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 4: It's like I'm like white, and like I know you're

1725
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 4: like not white, so you.

1726
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 6: Need to like like speak white, like because I like

1727
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 6: white and I don't like things that aren't white.

1728
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 4: Right, you did, You did, freaking Tiffany.

1729
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:52,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's just like it's just like you're adding stupidity

1730
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 5: to like I mean, I guess that first, since I

1731
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 5: was already stupid. It's like you're just making it so

1732
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 5: much worse. Yeah, it's just crazy, Tiffany.

1733
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:04,520
Speaker 6: We have an update to possibly more of Tiffany's Shenanigan's

1734
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 6: I'm scared So our Dad Greg went to Tiffany's house

1735
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 6: a few days after the wedding and calmly and respectfully

1736
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 6: told Tiffany that we expected a sincere apology to Ben

1737
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 6: and Lisa, and that going forward, she would no longer

1738
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 6: be invited to family events at all without an apology,

1739
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,000
Speaker 6: and that she needs to have some serious reflections on

1740
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:26,599
Speaker 6: her views.

1741
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 4: Boom W Daddy Daddy Greg is a W.

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01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 6: It's been over ten months and Tiffany still hasn't apologized,

1743
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,719
Speaker 6: which we expected as even growing up she was always

1744
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:43,120
Speaker 6: stubborn and unwilling to take accountability for her wrongdoings. So

1745
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 6: it seems like maybe they didn't know the full picture.

1746
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 6: But it's like, okay, now we're like, we're all adults. Now,

1747
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 6: we're not kids anymore. Now right now we see we

1748
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 6: see update number two. Let's die right in. First, I'll

1749
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 6: give some context to the situation. So I live in

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01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,280
Speaker 6: a different part of the country where most of my

1751
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 6: family live, and I usually try to go and see

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01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 6: them two to three times a year, and my parents

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01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,360
Speaker 6: do the same. This has meant that I get a

1754
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 6: lot of the information a lot later. The update is

1755
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 6: somewhat related to the original post, as it is what

1756
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 6: tip the scales in Kevin's Tiffany's father's eyes.

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01:19:18,720 --> 01:19:23,360
Speaker 4: So Tiffany's father is entering the chat and maybe seeing

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01:19:23,439 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 4: Tiffany's true colors.

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01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 5: He's waking up.

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01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 4: Well.

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01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:29,640
Speaker 6: About three months ago, I went back home to go

1762
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 6: to a friend's wedding. Oh no, not another wedding now,

1763
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 6: and my mom updated me. On the way to the wedding,

1764
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 6: Uncle Kevin had met me with my dad and Gary,

1765
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 6: his brother. Uncle Kevin started by raising his voice, saying

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01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 6: Gary should have spoken to him about Tiffany's behavior at

1767
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 6: the wedding rather than going straight to Tiffany, and started

1768
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,160
Speaker 6: blaming Gary for his money issues and other little things

1769
01:19:53,160 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 6: that had been bothering him for some time.

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01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:57,320
Speaker 4: Confusing.

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01:19:57,600 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 6: It's like, hey, like why did you you address why

1772
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 6: why'd you like try to correct my daughter? Yeah, instead

1773
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 6: of like coming to me to correct her. It's like, well,

1774
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 6: I mean she's a whole whole lass adults or was

1775
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 6: twenty six years old? Like why not directly?

1776
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 4: So she's not.

1777
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 5: Five, she doesn't need to tell on her kind of

1778
01:20:16,160 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 5: like like you.

1779
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 6: It's like it's like, oh, yeah, he wants to like

1780
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 6: like tell her, you know, you can't do that. I'm like,

1781
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 6: that's the weirdest way to go about that little little sister.

1782
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 5: He wants tattletales.

1783
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 4: This more or less brought Gary to tears, and since

1784
01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 4: he couldn't get a word in, he decided to leave,

1785
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 4: choosing not to make it into a big fight.

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01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:35,679
Speaker 5: WHOA.

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01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 6: A lot of the things brought bothering Uncle Kevin had

1788
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 6: more to do with his life choices and less.

1789
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 3: To do with the wedding drama around his daughter.

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01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 5: Drama.

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01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 3: Pay attention, laues and gentlemen.

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01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 6: A couple of years ago, Kevin decided that he wanted

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01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 6: to convert his farmland into cropping only, as that was

1794
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 6: what his son was more interested in. I'm guessing something

1795
01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 6: that will be more relevant, because for now it does

1796
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 6: not make sense enough. My mom works in financing Sausha counting,

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01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 6: and when he was starting to go about this, she

1798
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 6: gave him some advice as cropping does not make a

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01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 6: lot of money, and that he could hire someone to

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01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 6: look after the livestock and dairy part of the farm

1801
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 6: and reduce the numbers to make more room for fields

1802
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:23,600
Speaker 6: to crop. I'm guessing for the sun to do that.

1803
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 6: He continued with a full conversion, selling off the dairy

1804
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 6: in the livestock thang well. A few months after the wedding,

1805
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:36,840
Speaker 6: my Nana had a cardiac event. Does not sound like

1806
01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 6: a celebration, and my dad didn't find out until twelve

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01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,720
Speaker 6: hours after she had been admitted into the hospital. Uncle

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01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:47,800
Speaker 6: Kevin is the primary contact for Nana and lives close

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01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 6: to her. Dad didn't find out until his sister rang

1810
01:21:51,240 --> 01:21:52,960
Speaker 6: him to ask if he had been to see her

1811
01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 6: at about eight pm. Essentially, Kevin doesn't want to talk

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01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:00,320
Speaker 6: to us even if Nana's health is going downhill, as

1813
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 6: this was not the only time, boy, What So About

1814
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,799
Speaker 6: a month and a half ago, Nana was not well also.

1815
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:12,599
Speaker 6: She had activated her emergency alarm and they contacted Uncle

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01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 6: Kevin to go check on her as they couldn't get

1817
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:16,720
Speaker 6: a response from her in the house. She was in

1818
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 6: a really poor state and needed to be cleaned up

1819
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 6: before the ambulance arrived to pick her up. My dad

1820
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 6: didn't find out again until hours later, when his sister

1821
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 6: rang him to let him know. Uncle Kevin essentially said

1822
01:22:28,479 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 6: to the family that he doesn't want to help look

1823
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:33,200
Speaker 6: after Nana in that way anymore and doesn't want to

1824
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:34,520
Speaker 6: be the primary contact.

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01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 3: How do you not want to take care.

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01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 6: Of Nana and not tell the family about it?

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01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 1: Like?

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01:22:41,720 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 3: You can't.

1829
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 4: You can't have both of these things.

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01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,559
Speaker 6: It's like, unless you want Nana to just straight up,

1831
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 6: you don't croak right like unless that's unless that's your

1832
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:52,639
Speaker 6: actual wish.

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01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 4: Bro Tiffany. Tiffany and Uncle Kevin are something's wrong with

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01:22:56,439 --> 01:22:58,160
Speaker 4: that side of the family. Something something went.

1835
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:01,679
Speaker 3: Wrong over they got sort of pool went wrong.

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01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:05,760
Speaker 6: I had organized a fight to come come up and

1837
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:08,479
Speaker 6: see Nana after learning of her most recent health event.

1838
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 6: When I got in, she had not not ever been

1839
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 6: out of the hospital for a whole week. I stayed

1840
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 6: with her, and she could no longer do as much

1841
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 6: as she used to around the house. She also had

1842
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 6: broken her arm when she fell a few days before

1843
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 6: I arrived.

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01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 4: Don't know.

1845
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:25,000
Speaker 6: While I was there, I tried to help her get

1846
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 6: things in order, and I took her out for lunch

1847
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 6: and out to the beach and just to get her

1848
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,479
Speaker 6: out of the house. Very sweet. Still no improvement between

1849
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 6: Uncle Gary and Uncle Kevin. Now Gary's uncle Gary's sister,

1850
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 6: I'll say Gary's sister tried to say that Gary should

1851
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 6: apologize to make peace, but then retorted that he had

1852
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:47,880
Speaker 6: not done anything wrong and Kevin should be the one

1853
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 6: to apologize. From what my mom told me, Uncle Kevin

1854
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 6: has always been this way and has time and time

1855
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 6: again gotten away with it. By the way, if you

1856
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 6: want to get away is having an amazing life, then

1857
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 6: you should have tapped the profile every weekend and through BBSD.

1858
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 6: We're alive on YouTube, We're live on Facebook, We're live

1859
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:08,799
Speaker 6: on TikTok.

1860
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 3: Tap it right now and come hang out with us.

1861
01:24:11,439 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 3: It's a vibe.

1862
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 6: There is more to this story, but I have to

1863
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 6: stop right here. Yeah, this is a whole mess.

1864
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 5: It really is.

1865
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:27,719
Speaker 6: What what what do you think is the best course

1866
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 6: of action for OP? Like, what what should OP do here?

1867
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 4: Do you think?

1868
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna be honest with you, John, be.

1869
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:41,519
Speaker 3: Let it go.

1870
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 5: I think I'm missing some details I cannot fill you with.

1871
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 5: Thank you. So it just sounds like so many so

1872
01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 5: just such a a string of genes that just just

1873
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 5: like swiveled around and got so many people in the

1874
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 5: family mixed up and missed some complete Some people sound great,

1875
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:03,800
Speaker 5: you know, and like are totally innocent, but the other

1876
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 5: ones sound like they're just insane.

1877
01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 6: Pretty much sings that uncle Kevin and cousin Tiffany's and

1878
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 6: that's their their father daughter. Yes, they're the ones that

1879
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 6: primarily suck. That seems to be the big issue, and

1880
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 6: they just keep doing things that suck. Either are racist

1881
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,600
Speaker 6: or ignoring their their grandma.

1882
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 7: Who is like like about to croak, you know.

1883
01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 4: With all these things going on. And so.

1884
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:39,479
Speaker 6: It's it's I asked because I was like wondering to myself.

1885
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:41,360
Speaker 6: I'm like, yeah, do we do we go to the

1886
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:43,920
Speaker 6: other members of the family and be like, hey, do

1887
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 6: we just want to like stop this whole Kevin and

1888
01:25:47,160 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 6: Tiffany's side of the family thing, do we just want

1889
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 6: to do we just kind of want to like move on.

1890
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:52,960
Speaker 5: And leave them out of stuff.

1891
01:25:52,960 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 6: He's a you're not a good caretaker of Nana, you know,

1892
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 6: not not not ain't gonna make it much longer if

1893
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 6: it's left, if it's up to Uncle Kevin and uh,

1894
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:06,800
Speaker 6: Tiffany's racist and sucks. So like, why don't we just

1895
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:11,759
Speaker 6: be like, hey, deuces, my guys, see you later. That's

1896
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 6: that's kind of what I'm thinking here. Yeah, maybe it's unnecessary.

1897
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 6: Maybe maybe you just as like if we're like ope,

1898
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:21,680
Speaker 6: you just we're just like okay, I'll just like not

1899
01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 6: really as long as we figure out a situation that

1900
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:28,720
Speaker 6: Nana's not gonna you know, freaking croak and no one's

1901
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:31,559
Speaker 6: gonna help her, I think we can just kind of

1902
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 6: like all right, I'm just moving distance myself. You need

1903
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:35,520
Speaker 6: to make a big fuss.

1904
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:37,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I feel like with stuff like that, it's

1905
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 5: like talking to them doesn't even seem like it will help,

1906
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 5: Like it seems like they're just kind of like this

1907
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 5: and it's not really going to change.

1908
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 6: And what's the benefit of it, Like if it was

1909
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,400
Speaker 6: your mom or it's like something else that's like a

1910
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 6: different story, but.

1911
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 5: Right, right, like you're not that close them.

1912
01:26:56,400 --> 01:27:01,679
Speaker 4: But we do need the final part of this. Sorry.

1913
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 3: We all agree with Gary that he.

1914
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 6: Hasn't done anything wrong and that Tiffany is old enough

1915
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:10,160
Speaker 6: to take responsibility for her own actions true and doesn't

1916
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 6: need her dad to mediate as she isn't a kid anymore.

1917
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 6: She's twenty six years old again, ladies, gentlemen, almost three

1918
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:17,680
Speaker 6: decades of living experience under her belts.

1919
01:27:18,439 --> 01:27:21,719
Speaker 4: We are all standing firm with load to no contacts.

1920
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 4: So here we go.

1921
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:25,879
Speaker 6: There's this decision as now that Gary is the primary

1922
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 6: contact for Nana, w he will let them know what

1923
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 6: a medical event happens, and he Isn't that mean? They

1924
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 6: basically did everything we talked about. They're like, Hey, we're

1925
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 6: gonna go load and no contact. We're gonna give Gary

1926
01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 6: Nana so she doesn't freaking that she can live another day.

1927
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1928
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 4: I think that's all we can ask, that's.

1929
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,000
Speaker 5: All they can control. And they're they're doing the best

1930
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:51,519
Speaker 5: with what they've got, doing the best.

1931
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:55,760
Speaker 6: Long live Nana, Okay, And that's it.

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01:27:56,479 --> 01:27:57,719
Speaker 3: That's it, that's all she wrote.

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01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:00,040
Speaker 5: That's it. But you know what, what That's also the

1934
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 5: end of the episode. Oh my god, would you look

1935
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:02,600
Speaker 5: at that?

1936
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 4: Look at that?

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01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 5: So, if you love us, make sure to subscribe.

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