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Speaker 1: It's the best of two pros and a couple with

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Speaker 1: Lamar are Rating Winn and Jonas Knox on radio.

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Speaker 2: We've got actual it counts football to recap here on

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Speaker 2: a Monday morning.

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Speaker 3: How the hell was you there?

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Speaker 4: Boys? How would feeling good? All right, guys, how y'all doing?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 3: How are you doing? Buddy?

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Speaker 4: Real good?

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Speaker 5: You know, taking a day by day, step by step,

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Speaker 5: brick by brick, one percent every.

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Speaker 4: Day, you know what I mean, Phil good?

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I got to see some soccer this weekend, my lady lines.

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Speaker 5: They took on the Mountaineers of West Virginia. I led

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Speaker 5: the march, you know, the initial march for their first

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Speaker 5: game of the season. I was banging drums and doing chance.

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Speaker 4: Really good man, what yeah? Yeah, so I was doing

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Speaker 4: so you.

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Speaker 3: Just all over the place out there at Happy Valley. Huh.

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Speaker 5: Well, somebody's got to bring the attention to the boys

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Speaker 5: that have never really had.

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Speaker 4: Attention, you know, so you must see.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's all just trying to make things better, brighter,

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Speaker 5: you know, clearer futures.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's that's what I do.

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Speaker 5: You know, I just like to get involved, you know,

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Speaker 5: I don't really like to sit on the bench. And

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Speaker 5: watch or even be on the culture and the stands.

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Speaker 5: You know, I take my rickety crookeety broken down legs,

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Speaker 5: those knees. They was saying like, what deaf are you doing?

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Speaker 5: You know, why are you doing this? You have nothing

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Speaker 5: to prove? Just support them, We don't need to be

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Speaker 5: doing this.

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Speaker 4: But nonetheless I forced them. I forced them to move.

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Speaker 2: And is that a taxing like physically thing?

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Speaker 5: You know, just walking around is taxing? Bro At some

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Speaker 5: point I'm going to have to now. I hope it's

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Speaker 5: not a knee replacement, but my left knee generally tells

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Speaker 5: me that there's something that is going to have to

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Speaker 5: happen at something point at some point, and then my

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Speaker 5: back one hundred percent. That's why this whole Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 5: thing is such a big ordeal to me.

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Speaker 4: I just when when it's.

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Speaker 5: Not an ache and paign in the muscle, but it

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Speaker 5: has something to do with like the disc and the

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Speaker 5: spine itself. It's a big topic because it's how do

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Speaker 5: you get through it? You know, is it going to

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Speaker 5: be epidorals or is it like what is it going

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Speaker 5: to be? Because you're not going to get that to

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Speaker 5: go away. It's not going anyway. It's not going anywhere

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Speaker 5: like maybe they do the you know injections into you know,

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Speaker 5: the you know, the the disc you know what is that,

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Speaker 5: the pake platelet stuff and all that to try to

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Speaker 5: make it regenerate or feel a little better that way.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: But now my back says no, Like my mind says yes,

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Speaker 5: but my back says no every single day.

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Speaker 4: So there you go.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, but you learn, like anything else, right, you

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Speaker 5: learn to deal with it. But I'm starting to get

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Speaker 5: that quasi moto type phiel to me where I gotta

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Speaker 3: You got that you got terrible posture, terrible pasture.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. Also, I've always walked.

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Speaker 3: You got that O G walk though, too. You know.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 6: I remember, I remember in the locker room. You see

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Speaker 6: some dudes you walk like that. Man, that's that's right there.

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Speaker 5: There you go, because that that s is banged up. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: the O G. The O G is say yet, young buck,

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Speaker 5: that back is banged up. You dig what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: That lean, that gangster Leane.

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Speaker 3: He's got that bad pasture.

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Speaker 4: It is. It's horrible posture, it really is.

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Speaker 5: But it's not on purpose, and it's not without you know,

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Speaker 5: with merits and and some some malage some.

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Speaker 4: Work to go with it. But anyways, it was a

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Speaker 4: good weekend.

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Speaker 2: I have a question about epidural How many can you get?

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Speaker 2: Like at some point I.

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Speaker 6: Got three, and at that point I was like, all right,

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Speaker 2: How long?

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Speaker 3: How long are you good for? It's not good for

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Speaker 6: They they're like trying to see if your body responds

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Speaker 3: So to Lvar's point, when you've got like.

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Speaker 6: A disk issue, usually there's you know, something that's gonna

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Speaker 3: It's just going to keep persisting.

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Speaker 6: So they try to take out a chunk or take

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Speaker 6: But typically they'll they'll give a few rounds of it

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Speaker 6: which that's like the worst. I don't wish that on

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Speaker 4: Dude, it is.

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Speaker 6: It is so terrible to deal with, like your quality

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Speaker 3: Like it makes me.

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Speaker 6: It changed my appreciation. I tell my kids this all

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Speaker 6: I was like, hey, you got two legs and you

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Speaker 6: can walk, and you get the opportunity to be out here.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, this is this is greater than anything you

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Speaker 6: Don't have that opportunity, you know, those other you know,

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Speaker 3: They give anything to be on your shoes.

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Speaker 6: And I trust me, that perspective I've had for a

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Speaker 3: Spinal fluid legs, you can't stand upright. If you stand up.

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Speaker 6: Right, like you'll eventually start to have these like terrible migraines,

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Speaker 5: It ain't a game, man, That's all I'll say. And yeah,

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Speaker 5: and you're a competitor, just appreciate.

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Speaker 4: It, man, you know.

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Speaker 5: And you know what, when I walk around feeling that

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Speaker 5: I really recognize is real. And if you've ever been

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Speaker 5: the game like that that person put in some work,

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Speaker 5: They put that time in.

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Speaker 4: Now I was just being.

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Speaker 5: You know, just being sarcastic, taking a jab at him.

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Speaker 5: If you listen to the JKS show, then you know

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Speaker 5: that he does take a little little unnecessary swipes from

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Speaker 5: here to hear from you know, time to time, but.

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Speaker 4: You know, to show. You know, you know, I listen,

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Speaker 4: you're we're a little word of hate. I hate on

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Speaker 5: Hitting into the show though I hate on you so bad.

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Speaker 5: Shouldn't be it's like if you ain't got nothing else

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Speaker 5: better to do with your Saturday, like absolutely zero, Like

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Speaker 5: if you have zero point five or one thing that's

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Speaker 5: worth doing, then don't turn on Jonas Knox. But if

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Speaker 5: you have absolutely nothing else to do, then you know,

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Speaker 5: you check out Jonas after we're finishing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the way.

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Speaker 4: It should be.

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Speaker 2: That's the way it should be. You should you should be.

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Speaker 4: It's kind of like week zero, you should be.

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Speaker 6: Well, look, here's my thing, is I guarantee I guarantee

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Speaker 6: you en watching.

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Speaker 4: I did what I will say. I did no.

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Speaker 5: No, I did watch the watch the the doubling. I

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Speaker 5: watched the doubling game kate Kansas State and Niowa State.

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Speaker 5: I did watch it. I saw the upset take place.

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Speaker 5: But what I did not do is watched very closely

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and take it away, Jonas, just go ahead and

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Speaker 6: take it away. Yeah, he's going to recap exactly how

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Speaker 6: I got screwed.

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Speaker 3: There. We go absolutely screwed.

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Speaker 2: The over under the point total on Iowa State. Kansas

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Speaker 2: State was fifty and a half, and it was sloppy.

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Speaker 2: It's exactly what Week zero looks like. It's sloppy. There

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Speaker 2: were turnovers, you know, the gray skies, the mists, the drizzle,

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Speaker 2: like it was everything you can expect from a Dublin game,

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Speaker 2: like all of it comes along with it. And then

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Speaker 2: you know, Brady's competitive and he wants to win these

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Speaker 2: bets and he starts looking at it going, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: they took too long to get going. And then all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, the fourth quarter hits and there's a

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Speaker 2: sixty five yard touchdown throw by Kansas State.

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Speaker 3: Let me tell you what hit. Healing whiskey hit, the

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Speaker 6: Those teams got drunk, all right, they got drunk, and

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Speaker 6: they started realizing, Hey, Lottie, what are younna thought of about?

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Speaker 6: Down to field that out Lottie one on one in

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Speaker 6: the second hair, Oh we could do that, Lottie.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: And so all of a sudden it brought you back

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Speaker 2: in emotionally like it looked like it was over. You know,

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Speaker 2: count this one as a loss. And then you realize, well, wait,

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Speaker 2: I got a shot here, and so it's what twenty

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Speaker 3: I think it was.

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Speaker 2: And you know, Iowa States got the football and driving driving,

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Speaker 2: you know, a little you know, big play, a little

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Speaker 2: pass out of the backfield. Guy guy grabs it and

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Speaker 2: goes to the end zone, reaches and I'm texting Brady

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Speaker 2: and I'm a terrible multitasker, but I'm doing this while

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Speaker 2: I'm on the air, going yes, you know, celebrating, you know,

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Speaker 2: some curse words, et cetera, et cetera. They review it

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Speaker 2: and he was literally four inches short, like no bow

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Speaker 2: came down four inches short. Reviewed it, bring it back

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Speaker 2: and Iowa State, because Kansas State had no timeouts left,

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Speaker 2: just took a knee, runs the clock out, and you

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Speaker 2: went from hitting the over.

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Speaker 6: There were so many things, so many things that played

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Speaker 6: a factor in full of ar. So it's twenty four

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Speaker 6: to twenty one, and I'm thinking to myself, there's an

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Speaker 6: earlier fourth down decision where Iowa State opts to go

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Speaker 6: for it as opposed to kicking the field goal. Now

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Speaker 6: what's interesting about that is they go up six, and

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Speaker 6: I'm thinking in my head like, okay, now I'm really

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Speaker 2: Oh, Pete Prisco was on the right side. It was

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Speaker 2: It just didn't work out. It was their fault for

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Speaker 6: I was, I was watching all five kids solo, and

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Speaker 6: We need a little more participation to hit that over

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Speaker 3: You this whole year. So when you lose, I lose.

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Speaker 4: Just brutal.

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Speaker 2: And so how are we going to be doing? Like

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Speaker 6: I don't want to make it sound like I'll make

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Speaker 6: I don't want there to be a push. Yeah, so

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Speaker 3: Might be weeks for those five.

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Speaker 2: The more you throw in, the more there's an opportunity

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Speaker 3: That's I always go three.

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Speaker 2: Anything more than that and it's like you're just leaving

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Speaker 3: I love how you say this.

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Speaker 6: You've done like seven game parlays before in Texas about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but like that's you know, that's because I've got

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Speaker 2: try and keep it, keep it low. For Knox locks

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Speaker 4: Say zero zero for a reason?

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Speaker 3: You know what about that zero when LeVar?

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Speaker 6: When Jonas does his little like knocks locks thing one

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Speaker 3: Can you play that for me again? Knocks locks? It

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Speaker 3: looks like you've never held a shotgun before. I mean,

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Speaker 3: No, never do that, never, never in my life. It

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Speaker 2: Jonas.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, one more time, Jonas one more time knocks locks.

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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, like that game raise it?

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Speaker 3: You don't actually like pump it?

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Speaker 4: He single hands. He thinks it's cool.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a single.

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Speaker 4: Single hand, single hand jerker of the of the At

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Speaker 3: Though, you know, it slides, you have you can just

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing. You guys need weapons. I don't, so

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Speaker 2: I'm not familiar with how that works. Like, like, I've

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Why did you got problems?

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Speaker 5: Bro?

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Speaker 2: I've got I don't. I've got carnades on.

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Speaker 6: My or you could not see what he just did,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I've never never held a shotgun.

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Speaker 4: One hand that time.

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Speaker 2: Hey, by the way, where was lebar? Do you just

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Speaker 3: Where'd you go?

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Speaker 4: What are you mean?

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Speaker 3: Are you on the yard?

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Speaker 4: What are you mad? Oh? He's not on the yard?

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Speaker 3: You popped in?

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Speaker 2: Somebody popped in and popped back out?

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Speaker 6: Was that?

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Speaker 5: Yu?

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Speaker 4: LEI?

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Speaker 3: I'm just trying to get it in.

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Speaker 6: Real quick. Can we make a like commit to each other?

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Speaker 6: We are we going to Ireland next year? It's TCU versus.

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Speaker 6: It's not a Big twelve match up. It's tc versus

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Speaker 4: I mean, I thought we were going this year.

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Speaker 3: Whoa easy. We couldn't make this one work. I tried.

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Speaker 3: They're like push, push for next year. I was like, well,

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Speaker 3: Foxy all right?

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Speaker 2: I mean, do we working on it? Do we know

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Speaker 3: And I know for sure TCU is going.

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Speaker 6: It's their home game, and that's why I know it's

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Speaker 2: So hoping praying cross TCU North Carolina way off.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's still a TCU home game, so it

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Speaker 2: That TCU North Carolina decent game. Maybe who knows, maybe

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Speaker 2: good for them.

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Speaker 3: We may not make it back, by the way, oh

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Speaker 2: And and whatever old lady is sitting next to on

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Speaker 3: I don't want to come back, all right, So yeah,

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Speaker 5: Do you guys think that Lee would develop an accent

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Speaker 3: Hey, Lee, I don't, I don't. I mean, I'll put

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Speaker 6: Some of the present companies around he hasn't developed an accent,

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Speaker 5: Like a little apple Jack cap, you know, and and

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think he would start to embrace it. Man, I

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Speaker 5: I just think that to be true.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I could be wrong, but you never

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Speaker 4: Did he not?

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Speaker 5: What happened in Vegas stays in Vegas or can it

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Speaker 4: In Vegas. I don't know, man, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I'm talking cause you know, there's international pool time, there's

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying anything.

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Speaker 5: Is possible if Lee has that type of access to

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Speaker 4: If you did, what.

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Speaker 2: Should we should we tease that? Should we tease a

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Speaker 4: Get to the bottom.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I want to say he probably had his sponsor, his

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Speaker 5: ones out there and I'm just wondering who was filming

445
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 5: you know, how did you get such great angles on

446
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 5: your trap your trap content.

447
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:51,440
Speaker 4: I'm just hey, I'm just saying, you know what I mean,

448
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:54,399
Speaker 4: just curious. That's all.

449
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 3: Got to get to the bottom of that.

450
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:14,239
Speaker 4: I guess Anthline, m m yeah, what up?

451
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 2: Oh god, it's two pros and a cup of Joe.

452
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

453
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 3: Bring us saying come on, we're still doing this thing.

454
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 2: LaVar Arrington yeah, Brady Quinn yeah, Jonas knocks Yeah.

455
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 3: Can I change this one for you to something else?

456
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 4: Pay come on?

457
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, come on, Jonahs, don't let you ruin it. Come on,

458
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:38,880
Speaker 5: go ahead, Jonas? Nah?

459
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Speaker 2: No, fam all good?

460
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 5: Noah fam Come on Jonas, come on, Jonas.

461
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, go on, step for the Jonas.

462
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:52,439
Speaker 2: We're going, Come on, Jonas, y'all know mean cuz what

463
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 2: nah me?

464
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 4: Nah me?

465
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 2: You find this ish on the iHeartRadio out too?

466
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 4: That the Morettius.

467
00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 3: I can't.

468
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:14,280
Speaker 2: That's all I got.

469
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:16,399
Speaker 3: That's all I got.

470
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 5: Why do you go with doses though you actually float

471
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 5: with la Man? You found this this on on You

472
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, son, You know what I'm saying.

473
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 5: I don't call you Sun because you are my son.

474
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 5: I call you sun because you shine like one.

475
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

476
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 3: Oh, this that's appropriate.

477
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 2: Uh, it's an appropriate segue under this.

478
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 4: There you go.

479
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Speaker 2: Uh the story Lee did not mention, and uh, in

480
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Speaker 2: case you missed, it was something that I was not

481
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 2: familiar with until Brady sent over the the highlight if

482
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Speaker 2: you will, over the weekend. Uh you want to explain?

483
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,119
Speaker 7: Uh, yes, of course we did mention the Kansas State

484
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 7: lost to Iowa State in Dublin, which then was followed

485
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 7: quickly by uh. And it's I know that. I feel

486
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,440
Speaker 7: like I know exactly where this happened. This is where

487
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 7: we were walking out. A video that's gone viral of

488
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 7: Avery Johnson's father, Avery Johnson, the quarterback of Kansas State,

489
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 7: his father, and his old and his older brother getting

490
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Speaker 7: into a fight on the street.

491
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

492
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 7: His father, Mark and brother Anthony have now issued an

493
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 7: apology for this viral video, saying we sincerely apologize for

494
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 7: our actions following yesterday's football game in Ireland. That statement read,

495
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 7: senseless bickering escalated into an unnecessary fight. We have resolved

496
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 7: our differences and take full responsibility for our actions. We

497
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,439
Speaker 7: have apologized to our immediate family and now extend our

498
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 7: apologies to Kansas State University. It's alumni and fans. We

499
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 7: regret this incident, have learned from it, and are committed

500
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Speaker 7: to ensuring it doesn't happen again. Please accept our deepest apologies.

501
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Speaker 6: They were fighting with each other, yeah, oh yeah, so

502
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 6: that was wasn't clear. People on social media were trying

503
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Speaker 6: to say they like, oh got drunk, were fighting with

504
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 6: other people in Ireland and then some so is a

505
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 6: father's son, which look based on how the game ended

506
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 6: and by the way Aby Johnson played well, I thought,

507
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 6: you know, Iowa State is a tough defense to go

508
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Speaker 6: up against. I gave you a nugget how John Haycock's

509
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 6: defense has held opponents over the last five years to

510
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 6: an average of like.

511
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Speaker 3: Under twenty two twenty three points. They only gave it

512
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Speaker 3: twenty one.

513
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Speaker 6: It's like there you go, Like that's the Iowa State

514
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,840
Speaker 6: is one of the more consistent programs you'll find in

515
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 6: college football. There's no reason to get frustrated about it. However,

516
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Speaker 6: I understand again, Avery Johnson, a guy who they thought

517
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 6: his breakout year was last year.

518
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,800
Speaker 3: This year, you know, who knows what will ended up doing.

519
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 6: But you know, clearly some frustration from the parents with

520
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 6: how that game went starting off the season one one.

521
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Speaker 2: What are you doing? Like, you you've got your son

522
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 2: pinned down on the ground with your forearm across his

523
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 2: throat and you're throwing punches at him. And a puddle

524
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Speaker 2: in a puddle outside the state.

525
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 4: Big old puffle that your.

526
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: That your other son just played in.

527
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 3: Wait, what are you doing. We're not talking about a

528
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 3: co ed puddle. We're talking about a puddle.

529
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Speaker 5: No, No, it was not a Oh it was that deep.

530
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,719
Speaker 4: That's one of them could have drowned in that puddle.

531
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 4: It was deep.

532
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Speaker 5: That's just I don't know, man Like, they wanted to

533
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 5: keep going though, Like I think once to one, I

534
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 5: think it was the the what was it the son?

535
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,880
Speaker 5: I think once he realized how wet he got doing it,

536
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 5: it was just like we might as well just keep going,

537
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 5: you know, like, let's let's go ahead and get another

538
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 5: rounded it.

539
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's wow, really good top control by the father.

540
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Speaker 5: I would say that he did stay on top of him,

541
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Speaker 5: like he was like a half a centimeter away from

542
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 5: drowning him. Man Like, if that puddle was any deeper,

543
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 5: dude would have been taken on water through the nostrils and.

544
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 4: Nothing like this.

545
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 2: But like LeVar, think about this. Imagine your son just

546
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 2: finishes playing a game at Penn State and finds out

547
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 2: that there's a video of you and your other son

548
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 2: fist fighting in the parking lot, Like how do you

549
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 2: how does it? How do you get.

550
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: Over that.

551
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 6: You're missing where this is all directed at? Like what

552
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 6: we really need to do is take a moment right now.

553
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 6: And this is a little difficult.

554
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: Give it everyone's personal situations.

555
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 6: And I don't know why Lee just went off stream

556
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 6: yard Maybe he felt like this was coming towards him,

557
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 6: Like who would be most likely to get in a

558
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 6: fight with their dad into public place?

559
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 4: Lee?

560
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Speaker 5: Maybe Jonas? I don't, I don't really know. I mean,

561
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Speaker 5: I guess it would be impossible for Jonas.

562
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,120
Speaker 3: Back in the day.

563
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Speaker 5: Were hypothetical Jonas, No, you don't have to be so literal, Geez,

564
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 5: who would be better at walking their dog? Brady Jonas

565
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 5: or LeVar? Like we get it, bro Like just too though, Yeah,

566
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 5: so are mine. I just got a new one that's

567
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 5: all replace them, you know what I mean?

568
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 4: Geez?

569
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 2: No, I would I would.

570
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 7: I would have never never fought my dad ever, man,

571
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 7: I'd fight him in the street.

572
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 3: I bet Lee would It would have to be Lee,

573
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 3: right yeah? And Lee would you would.

574
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 6: You get your ass kicked by your dad though you

575
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 6: think you'd beat up your dad. Here's the only thing.

576
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 6: Here's the only thing I'd say about this is Lee

577
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 6: is sneaky athletic. I mean the hesitation move he put

578
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 6: on that security.

579
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 3: Guard, he did double bro. He damn near lost his

580
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 3: achilles right there.

581
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 2: He put that.

582
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,920
Speaker 4: Put that found out baptoe.

583
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 3: He put that guy.

584
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: He put that guy in a clown suit on national radio.

585
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 2: And then the guy had the nerve to come back

586
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: over later in the week and try and hang out.

587
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 3: Dude, pick up your shoes you left over there? Would great?

588
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 2: Throw too on the.

589
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 5: Money throw that's hilarious. I would never fight my dad,

590
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 5: Just so we're clear, Yeah, never. I just feel like

591
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 5: I'm going straight to hell if I ever like dishonored

592
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 5: my father in any way, Like would I would never

593
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 5: fight my dad.

594
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: Just imagine Avery Johnson opens up his social media and goes, wait, dad,

595
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 2: he's kind of sunpinned down beating his ass in a puddle.

596
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: What are we doing, dude?

597
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 4: Like, what are we doing? Well?

598
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: Hey, that sucks, but you know, living you'll learn and uh,

599
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: there's probably a couple of a couple of pops mixed

600
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 2: in there too that probably led to Leather, the skirmish

601
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: or the Donnybrook if you will. All right, it is

602
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 2: two pros and a cup of Joe here on Fox

603
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Now we transition over smoothly to something that

604
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: must be discussed, because we are all about checking the

605
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: boxes here, all right, It's all about playing the hits.

606
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: LaVar's guy, shad Or Sanders had a little bit of

607
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 2: a rough rough.

608
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 4: Go bars guy, a little bit of a rough go

609
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 4: of it.

610
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: This weekend look looked a little bit different than the

611
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: previous game that he participated in. You know, he took

612
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: a bunch of bad sacks. I think he completed three

613
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: passes through for I think negative fourteen yards something like that,

614
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: but not all that great. And so now the the

615
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: conversation becomes what next. He wanted to stay in for

616
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: the final two minute drive. Kevin Stefanski pulled him out

617
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: and said, no, we're just we're gonna go with Snoop,

618
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: who later got released. And so now the discussion turns

619
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: to what happens with Shador. It appears like he's going

620
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: to make the roster. But I don't know how anybody

621
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: could argue that. You know, he climbs the the chart

622
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: above Dylan Gabriel. After what we've seen, I think that sailed.

623
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Speaker 6: Here's the thing is, no one's trying to make that

624
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 6: argument now. The argument they're trying to make is that

625
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 6: Kevin Stefanski is it out for him and the Browns

626
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 6: organization organization has it out for Shador Sanders and this

627
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 6: was all a setup, you know, the position they put

628
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 6: him in, the plays they called during when he was

629
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 6: in the game versus Dylan Gabriel.

630
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 3: I was actually so.

631
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 6: Motivated, I'll put it that way by social media last

632
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 6: night to go back through and break down all of this,

633
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 6: just to kind of put it to bed. There are

634
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 6: so many misconceptions with what's being spewed on social media,

635
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 6: and look, maybe they're just people who are trying to gaslate,

636
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 6: Like maybe that's what this is, and that's what social

637
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 6: media is kind of be coming now, is you got

638
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 6: to get a reaction out of people, so you have

639
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 6: to say things that.

640
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 3: Are just absolutely ridiculous.

641
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 6: Or there's just certain people who viewed this world in

642
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 6: a certain prison and that's not going to change, and

643
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 6: those people seemed to come out of the woodwork for

644
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 6: sports when they never lived there in the first place.

645
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 3: And by the way, like here's the things that I heard.

646
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 6: You know, the play calls when Dylan Gabriel was in

647
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 6: were quick hitters and he got the ball out quicker.

648
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 6: And then when Shador goes in, there're these max protection

649
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 6: take forever, but he's getting sacked all the time, even

650
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 6: though they knew they couldn't protect him. Hm, okay, let's

651
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 6: break that down quick. You don't know what the biggest

652
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 6: difference was between Dylan Gabriel and Shadoor Sanders. When Dylan

653
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 6: Gabriel got to his back foot, he was decisive, he

654
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 6: got the ball out of his hand. Shador Sanders had

655
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 6: a number of opportunities to go to his first read

656
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 6: or second read or an underneath route that he chose not.

657
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: To go to.

658
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 6: That's not on Dylan Gabriel, the coaching staff, or anyone else.

659
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 6: And it's one of the things I brought up in

660
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 6: the last time that we saw Dylan Gabriel out And

661
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 6: really when shadeor played well too, they both looked good.

662
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 6: The difference was there was something crisped and quick about

663
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 6: Dylan Gabriel and just how he kind of has a

664
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 6: undre standing for the timing and rhythm of NFL offenses

665
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 6: when the ball is thrown with timing and anticipation. Shador

666
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 6: took a lot of sacks in college. And it wasn't

667
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 6: just because his old line wasn't great. It wasn't great

668
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 6: at Colorado. He holds onto the football for an eternity.

669
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 6: So that's the first issue that was an issue in college.

670
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 6: It seemed to be a bit of an issue at

671
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 6: least in the two preseason games we've seen, even when

672
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 6: he played well in the first one, the ball wasn't

673
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 6: coming out quite as quick.

674
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: The other issue he has, and.

675
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 6: One of the reasons why a lot of the pressure

676
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 6: and things were exacerbated, is because Dylan Gabriel, if you

677
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 6: watch him, when he gets to the back of the pocket,

678
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 6: he steps up, he works through it, he kind of

679
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 6: navigates up back towards the line of scrimmage. Chador does

680
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 6: something very similar. And by the way, it's not just Shador.

681
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 6: I said this about Bryce Young his rookie season. After

682
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 6: I call it a game. A lot of these college

683
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 6: quarterbacks they get in this bad habit of when they

684
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 6: drop back they turn their hips parallel to the line

685
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 6: of scrimmage. It right away eliminates half the field. If

686
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 6: you're right handed quarterback and your hips are parallel to

687
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage as you're standing there in the

688
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 6: pocket or trying to navigate where to go, Yes, you

689
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 6: can run forward, but you've cut off the entire right

690
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 6: half of the field at least being able to throw

691
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 6: down the field, midfield anywhere. Maybe you can adjut, turn

692
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 6: on quickly throw something short, but it's basically the middle

693
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 6: of the field to the left side of the field.

694
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 6: The defense is already won. They already don't have to

695
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 6: cover half the field because they got you to get

696
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 6: into a bad habit of opening your hips like that.

697
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 6: You know, you'd like to be like a boxer climbing

698
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 6: up through the pocket, maintaining the ability to throw your

699
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 6: right hand, so your really hips should be perpendicular to

700
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage. So Bryce Young had that habit.

701
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 6: He was able to kind of kick it a bit

702
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 6: last year too, and some of what he was doing

703
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 6: because naturally, when you drop back like that, you get

704
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 6: the back of the pocket.

705
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: You want to run out to the sides.

706
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 6: You don't want to actually step up into the pocket

707
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 6: where that's your safe have and that's your safe one.

708
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 6: That's how the code line coach is coaching those tackles

709
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 6: to push those edge rushers by you.

710
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 3: But you have to set the pocket then step up

711
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 3: into it.

712
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 6: So he's got to figure out a way of developing

713
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 6: that happen and kicking this old kind of college habit

714
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 6: that a lot of quarterbacks fall into the habit of

715
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 6: when they transition from college to the NFL. Now, you know,

716
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 6: was he playing with the best guys the ones and twos? No,

717
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 6: but doing Gabriel had to deal with that sometimes too.

718
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 6: And by the way, as a quarterback, you have to

719
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 6: deal with that at times, you know. I remember playing

720
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 6: in Denver last game the season when I was with

721
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 6: the Chiefs. We had a backup left tackle. We had

722
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 6: a guard who we had just signed I think two

723
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 6: or three weeks prior another guard who we signed like

724
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 6: week four during the season. We had another player who

725
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 6: was wearing a club on his right hand. I mean,

726
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 6: he was as patched work as you can get. And

727
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 6: guess who they had Von Miller on one side, DeMarcus

728
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 6: Ware on the other. Have fun going up against that,

729
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 6: Like that's what you're going to be tasked with. So

730
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 6: this is just a preseason game, Like, we don't need

731
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 6: to overreact about the performance of Shador Sanders and make

732
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 6: this a racial thing or make this a Kevin Stefanski

733
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 6: and this team has that out for him.

734
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: It's not the case. Man, Like you can.

735
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 6: Try to do that and try to pep perpetuating on

736
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 6: social media. It is the biggest lie if you want

737
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 6: to buy into that, because there's not one lineman that

738
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 6: I've ever met that's like, oh, should door's in. I'm

739
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 6: gonna go and throw in the towel in my career

740
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 6: and play crappy. So he gets sacked or he doesn't shine.

741
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: Let him get hit, Yeah, let him get hit.

742
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 6: Like what player have you ever heard of who's doing

743
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 6: their best to make an NFL roster not just the Browns,

744
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 6: because those guys have to play for every other team

745
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 6: too that they're on film for and pray to guy

746
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 6: they get picked up either by the Browns, their practice squad,

747
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 6: or somewhere else on an active roster of practice squad.

748
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 6: So can we just stop this? It's madness, It really is.

749
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 6: Someone try to compare to Tebow. I said, let me

750
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 6: just first explain this to you about Tebow. Should Door

751
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 6: can throw the football? It starts it ends there, like

752
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 6: there's no comparison between those two. Should Door can play

753
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 6: at the NFL level throwing the football?

754
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: All right?

755
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 6: Like that's just and that's not me like it's been

756
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 6: anything other than pointing out the fact to you that

757
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 6: like he could sling it. That was Tim's biggest issue

758
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 6: coming in the NFL is there was a lot of

759
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 6: concern about whether or not he could at the NFL

760
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 6: level do it, should or can do it.

761
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 3: So don't try to compare like, oh, it's the fandom

762
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 3: and everything.

763
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 4: No, it's not.

764
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 6: It's completely different. It's a completely different scenario, circumstances. What

765
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 6: Shador entered into, what Tim entered into, what tim struggles were,

766
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 6: what you know, it is being asked of Shador right now.

767
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 6: It's like it's night and day. So I just to

768
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 6: stop the badness.

769
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 4: Man.

770
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 5: What's funny about that part of it is Tim Tebow

771
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 5: was more relevant to the conversation than Shador Sanders or

772
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:47,240
Speaker 5: Dylan Gabriel because he was closer to getting onto the field,

773
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 5: right He wasn't a third string He was he was

774
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 5: slated as the backup when he came in and he

775
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:52,399
Speaker 5: was the third string.

776
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 6: I was on that te him And this is why,

777
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 6: like I know, in depth knowledge, you can talk on it,

778
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 6: but you will not have a clue.

779
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 3: I've been on it.

780
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 6: I've been in a road game before where I was

781
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 6: warming up or he went down. The next week, They're like, hey,

782
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 6: Tim's gonna go in, and I looked at the coaches, like,

783
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 6: what did this happen?

784
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I mean. I thought he was because

785
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 5: he ended up playing in the playoffs, right, and.

786
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 3: He played awful.

787
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 4: Well.

788
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 3: That was the second year.

789
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 6: That was when John Fox got there, and yeah.

790
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,479
Speaker 4: I thought he would.

791
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 5: I thought he was second on the depth chart, so

792
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 5: I thought that it would be more relevant. But if

793
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 5: he was third, then it is it's more relevant to the.

794
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,240
Speaker 3: Well and he played.

795
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 6: If you saw him in the preseason, it was like again,

796
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 6: if you saw those games, you're kind of like, all right,

797
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 6: And that's why some of the players were even surprised

798
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 6: and shocked by it.

799
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:32,800
Speaker 3: But I digress.

800
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 6: The only comparison there was was in regards to the

801
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 6: fandom and the pushing behind you wanted to get them in.

802
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 4: Like.

803
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 5: There's definitely validity to that, and I would just say

804
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 5: the whole you said, the let's not get you know

805
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 5: what was it out of control about or whatever it

806
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 5: may be, Like why there? Why are we over reacting

807
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 5: over a third and fourth string quarterback? That's like, let's

808
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 5: start there. It's you know, let's start there. Like the

809
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 5: phenomenon of it all is that Shador Sanders is the

810
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 5: driving factor of the topic.

811
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 4: And that's it.

812
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 5: That is it, even Shiloh getting getting waived and all

813
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 5: that stuff, major story, driving headlines, like he was probably

814
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 5: not going to make the team anyway, but it's such

815
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 5: a big driving story. It's an engine to a vehicle

816
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 5: that is very leverageable and very usable. And that's what's

817
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 5: happening here. If Dylan Gabriel and Shador Sanders were battling

818
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 5: it out for one and two, this is a relevant conversation.

819
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 5: I don't even know that they're saying that Kenny Pickett

820
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 5: is going to be available for week one, which means

821
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 5: that they're planning on rolling with Kenny Pickett on on

822
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 5: the roster. So one of these guys is going to

823
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 5: be on the practice squad, and one of these guys

824
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 5: probably won't even be activated on game day. It's probably

825
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 5: going to be Kenny Pickett and Joe Flacco. And like

826
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 5: I said, I think Joe Flacco is a rent rent

827
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 5: a QB. And Kenny Pickett is still someone that the

828
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 5: verdict is out on him, like or not yet out

829
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 5: on him. He's young enough where you can say, can

830
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 5: he resurrect his career or is he heading down the

831
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 5: direction of being a career backup.

832
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 4: We don't know what Kenny Pickett's going to be.

833
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 5: But the more relevant conversation is what's going to happen

834
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 5: with Joe Flacco leading this team. What's going to happen

835
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 5: If Joe Flacco can do it, it's probably going to

836
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 5: be Kenny Pickett's team to.

837
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 4: Try to figure it out.

838
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 5: There's all kinds of debates and discussions about two dudes

839
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 5: that aren't even going to touch the field.

840
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: And by the way, the reason Dylan Gabriel is being

841
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 2: talked about as much as he is as a third

842
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: rounder is because Shitor was taken in the same draft.

843
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 2: Not even why, but he's he's.

844
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 4: Like, we're making this like, oh, they're doing him so wrong.

845
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 4: Oh God. It's still like Gabriel's a minority.

846
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 3: Two people.

847
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 4: Stop, It's just either one of them are going to play.

848
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: Why do you let me ask you, why do you

849
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: guys think that Shador has been picked? You know, like

850
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: because everybody gets like from time to time, somebody gets chosen.

851
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned Tebow, you mentioned like, why do.

852
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 4: You think it's it's the same.

853
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 5: Well, the amount of content and what Tim Tebow did

854
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 5: as a good person was brilliant because it built a

855
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 5: brand and then the man made the quote and went

856
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 5: and won a national title with one of the more

857
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 5: dominant football teams in college football.

858
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: But isn't it Don't you think it's because like that

859
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 2: just shows you the job that Dion did.

860
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 5: And it was really became like it's it's Dion's brand,

861
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 5: and it's Dion's son that built Shador, built Dion Senior,

862
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 5: and built uh Shiloh's.

863
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 4: Brands while they were were coming up in college.

864
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,720
Speaker 2: That was a one win program that a year later

865
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 2: was having rock concerts before games.

866
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 5: You want to know, the one common thread between Tim

867
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 5: Tebow and and the comparison is they they both players

868
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 5: have truly tapped into the Christian community. If we want

869
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 5: to take it a step deeper, when you get the

870
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 5: Christian community behind you, they jump all on it and

871
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 5: it's not really about anything other than God will serve

872
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 5: and protect. And when you bring God into it, and

873
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 5: it's like this is a God thing, and this is

874
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 5: this is something that was was spiritually deemed, this was

875
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 5: something that was divinely ordered and stuff like that. Once

876
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 5: you get people on that that praise train and that

877
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 5: they got you in their prayer groups, like you had

878
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 5: rare groups for Sanders, like come on, man, you see

879
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 5: what's going on abroad, people getting bombed, talking kind and stuff.

880
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 5: I don't know that Jesus is worrying about who's going

881
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 5: to start for the Cleveland Browns.

882
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 4: I just don't know.

883
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 2: The religious component I think was more applicable to t Bow,

884
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 2: because you know he was no.

885
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 4: No, it's very it's very equal, bro.

886
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 3: It is very two different churches.

887
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 6: Probably though I don't know, I don't know, I don't

888
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 6: know was a virgin.

889
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 4: That's very true.

890
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 5: His level of approach to Christianity was much much more

891
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 5: different and much more pronounced than Shadors, but not more

892
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 5: than Dion's.

893
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 4: Keep that.

894
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 6: Jonasman accusations about Tibo losing his virginity to Jill at

895
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 6: some point.

896
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: But hey, haven't we all you know? I mean, so,

897
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 2: I think.

898
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 3: If you're looking for answers, they're just look at your

899
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 3: left palm.

900
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 2: By the way, Lee was And I didn't get what

901
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 2: he meant by this. But Lee was saying earlier that,

902
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 2: you know, in Hidora's church, there's a lot more singing.

903
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 2: And I didn't know what that was all about. That

904
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: crazy Lee, What were you What did you mean by that? Oh,

905
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: it's just a much you know, much more engaging crowd. Okay, yeah,

906
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: I wasn't sure. I was trying to figure that out

907
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,479
Speaker 2: with your meat. What you're trying to imply there, Labar,

908
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: I didn't know what he was trying to imply there.

909
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,959
Speaker 5: I don't know, man, Like you're trying to say church

910
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 5: is just singing when it's a black church, like dang God,

911
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 5: dang bro. I can guarantee you that Tim Tebow was

912
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 5: in the same type of chase, probably like Pentecostal or

913
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 5: you know, something to that effect, like where it was

914
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 5: mixed crowds of people don't mega churches ain't worried about

915
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 5: what your color is these days.

916
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 4: They just worried about if.

917
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 5: You tap in or if you sway up one of

918
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 5: those those those uh, one of them atm machines before

919
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 5: you come into the House of God in the sanctuary,

920
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 5: because it ain't free to worship.

921
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 4: They say it is, but it ain't.

922
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 5: Somebody gotta pay these bills, you know for this nice, big,

923
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 5: beautiful church, in this great sound system.

924
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 4: Somebody got to be able to pay for it.

925
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 5: Gassing up that jet so they could fly privately to

926
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 5: go bless somebody when they get there. I mean some

927
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 5: of these things, some of them have two jets, you know,

928
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,919
Speaker 5: because the Lord has been good to them. So I'm

929
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 5: just saying, when you get the Christian community involved, they.

930
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 4: Go all in.

931
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 5: And I'm while I'm like joking, like I'm really like

932
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 5: lightweight joking, I'm being dead serious. I'm being dead serious.

933
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 5: That is the issue that you're going to run into.

934
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 5: It's like either it's either Greeks, It's either Greek society. Right,

935
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 5: so you see how like certain people were chosen and

936
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 5: climb to relevance like Colin Kaepernick or now see how

937
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 5: much support you know, Ryan Clark has garnered and the

938
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 5: things that he says, and a lot of people say

939
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 5: it's racially driven, but it's also there's a back story,

940
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 5: a backplot to.

941
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 4: All of it, and those are Greeks. They're Greeks, and

942
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 4: they get behind it.

943
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,399
Speaker 5: They get behind it, they push the narrative, and they're very,

944
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 5: very strong and how they get their messages out and

945
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 5: it catches hold, and these figures become way more sympathetic

946
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 5: figures to a specific group of people than to anything else.

947
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 5: This topic is really an irrelevant topic. It really is.

948
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 5: Neither one of them will play a significant role for

949
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 5: the Cleveland Browns foreseeably.

950
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 4: In the near future. Wow, it's a non topic.

951
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 6: I'm not going that far because I do think, well,

952
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 6: here's the reality is Joe Flacco's forty.

953
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: He's gonna start the season. I don't know if he's

954
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 3: gonna finish it.

955
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 6: But recent history has told us that take more than

956
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 6: one quarterback for the Browns to finish the season.

957
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 3: I mean, hell was like that when I was there.

958
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 6: So if that's the case and both these guys are

959
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 6: on the roster, which mind you, it sounds like they're

960
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 6: going to keep four. There's a lot of time before

961
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 6: the start of the season. We've seen a lot of

962
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 6: movement with teams trading for various quarterbacks. Sam Howe obviously

963
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 6: just got traded to be a backup with the Eagles.

964
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 6: Whether he's second, third string, whatever, there's still a lot

965
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 6: of time, So I would say, I don't know that

966
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 6: they're going to necessarily factor in right away, but.

967
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 3: I'm not writing them off not playing this year or

968
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 3: factoring at some point this season. Yeah, but let's be

969
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 3: real about this, like this is football.

970
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 6: Like none of these guys who are coaching a team,

971
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 6: who are evaluating players who are on these teams, are.

972
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 3: Trying to do anything other than win.

973
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 6: I know we like to play out the conspiracy theories

974
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 6: and everything else, but all these players are out there

975
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 6: trying to do the best they can to win. No

976
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 6: one was throwing in the towel for Shador, no one

977
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 6: was calling poor plays for shaudor there's things that he's

978
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 6: got a work con to improve upon, because what you

979
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 6: saw was not just Shaudor working with threes and fours

980
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 6: right and Dylan Gabriel working with ones and twos. It

981
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 6: was the difference between how one guy has made strides

982
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 6: and you know, processing and spreading the football around and

983
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 6: getting down with in the offense first another and mind you,

984
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 6: don Gabriel's played more football than Shador. So there's that

985
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 6: element of it too where it's like he's seen a

986
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,919
Speaker 6: lot more, done a lot more at the college level

987
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 6: before he came, you know, to the NFL level, so

988
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 6: he should be further along than where Shador is at

989
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 6: this point.

990
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

991
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

992
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific.

993
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 3: All right, So.

994
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 2: Did you guys happen to did you guys happen to

995
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: see the news that Carson Wentz, once thought to be

996
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: the next big thing in the NFL, has found.

997
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 3: A new home Pensylvania.

998
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: He will be the backup to kJ McCarthy in Minnesota.

999
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 2: So the Vikings traded Sam Howel to the Eagles. Brett

1000
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: Rippen got released, and so there's a thought that the

1001
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 2: Vikings are trying to acquire that and bringing that extra

1002
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: pick because they're working on a deal to maybe bring

1003
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: Adam Thielen back to Minnesota. All right, So there's that,

1004
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 2: and then there's this.

1005
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 3: There's your NFC North news and it impacts the Bears.

1006
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 3: Go ahead, Jones.

1007
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: Then there's this Game Show time.

1008
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 4: Oh wow, oh wow.

1009
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 2: This now makes six teams for Carson Wentz. And not

1010
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 2: only six teams, but we're talking one every single year

1011
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: since he's left the Philadelphia Eagles. He's on a new

1012
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 2: team every single year since leaving the Eagles back in

1013
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: twenty twenty. So we're going to start one at a time.

1014
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 2: Can you name the teams Carson Wentz has played for

1015
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: since Philadelphia?

1016
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 3: Yes, Indianapolis Colts.

1017
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 2: That is correct, the Indianapolis Colts. He was one of

1018
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,439
Speaker 2: many who have been trying to fill the sheep.

1019
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 5: I know too, I'm aware of two teams. I believe,

1020
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 5: I know he played for my team. So he played

1021
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 5: for the Washington Ridskins now known as the Commanders.

1022
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 4: I believe.

1023
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 2: I'm glad to be clarified.

1024
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 3: Brady Quinn, you're next. Do you want me to go

1025
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 3: with the one that I think LeVar doesn't know?

1026
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 4: Please?

1027
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 5: Don't go with the one I do know, because I'm

1028
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 5: in I'm out in deep water if.

1029
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 3: You say it. Yeah. So, do you want me to

1030
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 3: go with the one you don't know that I.

1031
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 4: Know you don't know, Yes? Please?

1032
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 3: The one that you don't know is the Kansas City Chiefs.

1033
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 5: Oh come, on man that that that's like that that

1034
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 5: was my bullet.

1035
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 4: That was my silver bullet.

1036
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 3: You knew that one.

1037
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 5: That was my That was because I remember his uniform

1038
00:49:56,320 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 5: matched his hair. That was right.

1039
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 4: Now, I'm out.

1040
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 6: I'm out the Redheads. By the way, see, I thought

1041
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 6: this one would be easy for you. The last one,

1042
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 6: I'm out.

1043
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:13,919
Speaker 3: You really don't know the last one.

1044
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 4: I'm out.

1045
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 3: I had kc Okay.

1046
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 6: I would have thought you knew the Rams because you

1047
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 6: live in southern California.

1048
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 4: Nope.

1049
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 2: And by the way, I if I have this correct,

1050
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: I think he snapped they're losing streak against the Niners.

1051
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 3: I think you're right.

1052
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 2: I think he started that game. Carson Wentz started that game.

1053
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 4: We wouldn't even remember.

1054
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 2: So, yes, that is correct.

1055
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 5: And literally I had to watch regional games. I told

1056
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,840
Speaker 5: you all that before I wouldn't even.

1057
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 2: Know Eagles, Colds, Commanders, Rams, chiefs now Vikings. And this

1058
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: guy was the next big thing like this, like that's

1059
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 2: how quick things turned. He was thought to be all everything.

1060
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: You go back to the to the Super Bowl year

1061
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 2: and now he's just kind of bouncing around the league

1062
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 2: just kind of you know, come to terms with the

1063
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 2: fact that you know he's probably just this is what

1064
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 2: is lot in the NFL is going to be just

1065
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 2: going to be a backup. He'll make you know, a

1066
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 2: great living doing it, but he's going to be the

1067
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 2: the answer in case there's any issues with JJ McCarthy.

1068
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 4: There made a Pro Bowl is a Pro bowler?

1069
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? Your guy?

1070
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 6: Well, hey, by the way, on that note, can you

1071
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 6: believe the Browns cut their only Pro Bowl quarterback?

1072
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 3: I was about late. Yeah, yeah, their only Pro Bowl

1073
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 3: comeback in Ross.

1074
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 2: You said that. I was like, what about Flacco? And

1075
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,879
Speaker 2: then I realized he's never made a.

1076
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 6: Problem crazy, which is which is crazy considering again, Flaco

1077
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 6: has been the Super Bowl MVP and played.

1078
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,439
Speaker 3: Forever, has played at a really, really high level.

1079
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, but also during a period of time where the

1080
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:56,680
Speaker 6: Super Bowl hit a lot different than it did when

1081
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 6: Tyler Hunting was able to qualify for it. But also

1082
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 6: again it goes back to you had Tom, you had Peyton,

1083
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 6: like you had the string of quarterbacks that were in

1084
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 6: the AFC for a period of time, Roethlisberger. I mean,

1085
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 6: now you've got obviously Josh Allen, Patrick, mahomes Lamar Jackson.

1086
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 6: I mean you're dealing with a slew of guys, you

1087
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 6: could have. But think about Joe Burrow last year. You

1088
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 6: could make it a case that Lamar Jackson Joe Burrow

1089
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 6: should have won the MVP over Josh Allen at least

1090
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 6: statistically speaking, and you know they fall the wayside just

1091
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 6: because the media wanted Josh Allen more so, where Josh

1092
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 6: should have won it two years ago and Lamar probably

1093
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:35,479
Speaker 6: should have won it last year.

1094
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 5: Seez Saguon Barkley should have won it last year. I mean,

1095
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 5: if we're just being real about it, But you know what,

1096
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 5: he wanted to be a good stand up dude. His

1097
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 5: coach wanted to be a d bag and not make

1098
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 5: history with the kid and kept.

1099
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:51,439
Speaker 4: Them out of the gang.

1100
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 3: Was that one of your sticks picks? Didn't you have?

1101
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:56,880
Speaker 3: Then you say he was going to play and then

1102
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 3: he dated him none.

1103
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't I've Yeah, he should have played.

1104
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 4: I know that.

1105
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's going to regret that and I hate that

1106
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 5: he's going to have to live with that.

1107
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 3: What are you eating that one?

1108
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 5: Do you got some white cheddar? Smart food? Uhpcorn popcorn?

1109
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 3: Did you have to include it was smart food?

1110
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 5: I mean I was just reading off the whole thing

1111
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 5: for you. If you don't want me to answer your question,

1112
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 5: don't ask.

1113
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:26,359
Speaker 3: You're right, Hey, you're right. That's not bad.

1114
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 4: My bad.

1115
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 3: I'll take a step back. That's my phone. I did

1116
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 3: ask the question.

1117
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 2: Was it in that box of food in the in

1118
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 2: the studio there that Lee helped himself to No, he

1119
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: got players lounge.

1120
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 5: I got it from the snack set right off of

1121
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 5: the right off of the weight room.

1122
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 3: Because he's still a player.

1123
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 4: I am a play. I play, by the way.

1124
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 6: On a separate note, we're talking a little bit of

1125
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 6: a football.

1126
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a long time.

1127
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 6: Many days do we have jonas if you want to

1128
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 6: look this up until the actual opening day, like the

1129
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 6: Thursday night?

1130
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 3: Is it two weeks right or like a week and

1131
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 3: a half week and a half.

1132
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 6: And what a lot of fans don't realize is you

1133
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 6: know this the roster's not set, you know they they

1134
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 6: a lot of players feel like after that initial cut

1135
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 6: to get down to their fifty three man roster, they're like, oh,

1136
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 6: I'm saved.

1137
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 3: It's like no, it's no, you're not.

1138
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 6: Like I remember being on teams where like during that

1139
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 6: first week building up to the first game, guys were

1140
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 6: still getting brought to the coach's office, they were releasing

1141
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 6: them and then signing them the practice squad, or they

1142
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 6: were being released you wouldn't see him again because someone

1143
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 6: else picked them up. It is not set until the

1144
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 6: game day week one, that first game roster. That's when

1145
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 6: like those players are safe, or that's when, for the

1146
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 6: most part, your team's going to look about eighty percent

1147
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 6: of what it should look like for the remainder of.

1148
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 2: The season because you're gonna cut the cutdown is what

1149
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 2: tomorrow for Eastern Time to get down to fifty three and.

1150
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 6: Then yeah, but like I said, even then, there's still

1151
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 6: movement because a lot of teams are stashing agawn in

1152
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 6: the back end of the rock, and once all the

1153
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 6: cuts happened, they'll then try to like release a guy

1154
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 6: and then bring him back to the practice squad and

1155
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 6: they'll pay him like he's on the active roster because

1156
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 6: they can do that, but he'll be on the practice

1157
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 6: squad and then they'll bring him back up and down

1158
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 6: and all that stuff. So there's definitely some hiding up

1159
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 6: some players that you know a team doesn't want to

1160
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 6: let go of, but they also know that they're probably

1161
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 6: not going to impact that game at least not week

1162
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 6: one or week two. Maybe later in the season. You know,

1163
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 6: they might see a lot of promise in that player,

1164
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 6: or they could have guys coming back from injury who

1165
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 6: they know we're going to impact them. They're like, well,

1166
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 6: we need it for depth now, but later on we

1167
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 6: may have to move on from this guy, or at

1168
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:36,360
Speaker 6: least put him on the practice squad.

1169
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 5: I was staying at the same hotel as the rookies

1170
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 5: for the Steelers, and I was walking in to go

1171
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,120
Speaker 5: to my room and I saw this just giant dude

1172
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 5: and he was walking. I was like, hey, many On Steele.

1173
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 5: He's turning like he's like yeah. I was like, man,

1174
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 5: how's it going. He turned and looked at me. He

1175
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 5: was like almost like you know, f off. I looked

1176
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 5: at him. I was like, bro, I'm just asking you, like,

1177
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 5: how's it going? And he turned to look one more

1178
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 5: time and just turned around and just kept walking like,

1179
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 5: didn't respond or nothing. I was like, you don't have

1180
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 5: to be an a hole, like be a cool dude, right,

1181
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 5: And I walked away. I was like, what an arrogant

1182
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 5: d bag? Right? And I'm sitting there, I'm just calling

1183
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 5: him all kinds of names and stuff like that, And

1184
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 5: then I stopped and I thought to myself, I was.

1185
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 4: Like, oh snap, it's cut down day. That dude was

1186
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 4: no longer a Pittsburgh Steeler.

1187
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:38,479
Speaker 5: I'm sitting there asking the Steeler house ows camp going

1188
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 5: like he was going.

1189
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 4: He was walking into the great abyss, like what's next?

1190
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 4: And I feel bad. I feel bad that I handled

1191
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 4: it that way.

1192
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 6: The sad thing is is we have seen some guys

1193
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 6: play the last football they'll ever play, and.

1194
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 3: They're they'll ever play the rest of their lives. They

1195
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 3: now going to make that transition.

1196
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,720
Speaker 6: So it's it's tough, man. This is like the worst

1197
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,759
Speaker 6: time of year. I remember being a player when you

1198
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,080
Speaker 6: make the roster because you go out there to camp

1199
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:08,879
Speaker 6: with what ninety or whatever it is. I mean, there's

1200
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 6: a lot of dudes out there, and then you come

1201
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 6: out after final cuts are made and you're looking around

1202
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 6: like dang, like half these guys got swooped up, got

1203
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 6: cut released whatever like you and you never talked to

1204
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 6: him again, or some of them, it's like you don't.

1205
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 3: See him for years.

1206
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 6: So it's it's a sad time for players, I think

1207
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 6: for veteran guys who are accustomed to it. You become callous,

1208
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 6: you know, honestly, And I remember started moving around team

1209
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 6: to team.

1210
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 3: It's like you kind of just were like, all right,

1211
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 3: what do I need to know? Who do I need

1212
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 3: to know? You know?

1213
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 6: And then that's why it's hard for teams that have

1214
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 6: a lot of roster ever turnal because they preach you know,

1215
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 6: team and loving your teammates, knowing your teammates. I remember

1216
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 6: with Mangini and Cleveland, it got to a point where,

1217
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 6: like I remember he had Sean Rodgers at.

1218
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 3: A TV one time.

1219
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 6: Hey Sean, like name this new tight end and and

1220
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 6: Sean's like, coach, that dude got here like forty eight

1221
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 6: hours ago. Man, He's like I haven't even seen him

1222
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 6: till right now, Like how I was I supposed to.

1223
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:03,919
Speaker 3: Know his name?

1224
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 6: Like there was always so much roster turnover where like

1225
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 6: you had like four to five new dudes between the

1226
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 6: practice squad and the active roster every single week between

1227
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 6: injuries and just everything else that went on, and it

1228
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 6: was like, yeah, it's impossible to preach that as a

1229
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 6: coach if they're like, how could you possibly know your

1230
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 6: your teammates?

1231
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 5: I stopped making friends. I ain't even talk to people

1232
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 5: when they come in, because it was like they're going

1233
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,439
Speaker 5: to they're not even going to be here.

1234
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 4: I am.

1235
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 5: I Am like that, Yeah, you got lucky.