1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:05,840 Speaker 1: What's up everybody? We have a very very special Bachelor 2 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: Happy Hour. I am sitting here. I feel like I 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: should whisper you guys. I'm sitting here backstage. 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: It's women. 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: Tell all, I've just watched the whole thing. The ladies 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: will be coming through, and you know, I've got a 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: ton of questions to ask. 8 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 2: We're gonna get to it. 9 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, my girl Becca, she's not going to be here tonight, 10 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: but that's okay. I told her I would pick up 11 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: the pieces. She wants to be here. She's here in spirit. 12 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: She even sent in some questions for me, So I'm 13 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: gonna ask Becka's questions. I'm not going to talk anymore 14 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: because the first lady is coming up right now. First 15 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: up to join me on the podcast. I'm so excited 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: to talk to you. It's Sydney. Yes, how are you? 17 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: First of all, you look sunny. 18 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: Let's just know, let me get out dish out compliments. 19 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 3: And you look amazing. 20 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate that. 21 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: But how do you feel? 22 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 3: You know what I feel? I feel like a certain 23 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: calmness right now. I do. 24 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 4: I feel like a lot has happened over you know, 25 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 4: an extended amount of time and I finally have had 26 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 4: a little second to breathe and for everything to finally 27 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 4: happen and to move on. 28 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, no, I mean today it was a lot. 29 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 1: It was a lot, but like for different reasons. Because one, 30 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: you know, you're like facing the draw. It's a reunion show, 31 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: you know, like we all love reunion shows because it's 32 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: like you, it all comes to a head. You've seen 33 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: what everyone's saying at im right, it's a Peter all. 34 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: That's all that good, bad stuff. But like it's the 35 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: first time y'all are seeing each other and talking. Then 36 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: you have to see Peter for the first time and 37 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: it's been three months ish. Then we had this conversation 38 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: that needed to be had that honestly you spearheaded. 39 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,200 Speaker 2: Thank you and no, thank you both of you. 40 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: Though no it's not because of me. No, we have 41 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: to give credit where credit is due, because you know, 42 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: we had the conversation where we talked about race. It 43 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: was uncomfortable, but it was necessary. And I don't know 44 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 1: if you guys know this, but you know, Sidney and 45 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: I had a conversation because of a lot of hate that. 46 00:01:58,640 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: She was receiving. 47 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: And I am one to brush things under the rug. 48 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I get a message, delete, move on. 49 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: But that's not what everybody does. And I'm acting like 50 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: it's not an issue and it's a problem. And it 51 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: was you who made me say, you know what, it 52 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: is a problem and we need to talk about it. 53 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 2: So how did you feel having that conversation? 54 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 5: Right? 55 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 4: So when we had our conversation, I was just you know, 56 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 4: we were just talking about what, you know, looking up 57 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 4: to you and what you had to go through, you know, 58 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 4: as the first African American box thread and being in 59 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 4: this it's hard for women of color. 60 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: It's hard. 61 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 4: And I'll say that because I've lived this my whole 62 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 4: life and then now it being on such a huge 63 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 4: scale I've had to deal with. You know, if someone 64 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 4: doesn't like you, they go as low as they possibly can, 65 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 4: and the lowest you can go with someone's race, you know. 66 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 4: So having this opportunity to talk about something that I'm 67 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 4: so passionate about and something that I saw in this 68 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 4: and I hope that changes meant everything to me. And 69 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 4: I just feel like it's my duty for girls that 70 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 4: do look like us to know that you can do 71 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 4: this number one and you can rise above the. 72 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: Hate yeah, absolutely see, and that's thank you, thank you 73 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: for that. How did it feel when the women came 74 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: running over to you to comfort you after seeing some 75 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: of those text messages that they know that we're directed 76 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: towards not I keep saying text messages, those DMS comments 77 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: that were directed to you. 78 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,239 Speaker 4: You know, a lot of people will say about the 79 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 4: season that we didn't love each other and that we 80 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 4: were always so caddy and. 81 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: Against each other. 82 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 4: I still question it, but in that moment was a 83 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 4: moment that I had felt nothing but love from those women, 84 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 4: and the support and the love means so much to me. 85 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 4: And you know, all the little hih yaas that were 86 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 4: done in the past like that that made up for everything, 87 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 4: because you know, when you when you're hurt, you just 88 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 4: that love just means everything. 89 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: And I think that's important for everyone else to see, 90 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: because we do see. 91 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: You know, your season has gotten and I've talked about 92 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: it all the podcast. Your season has gotten. 93 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: A lot of heat for the girls being so catty 94 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: and mean girls and not just not having that unity 95 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: and sisterhood. But on the stage, in that moment, we. 96 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: Saw the sisterhood. 97 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: And it's funny because there was a point today in 98 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: Women Tell Law, where LEXI said, you guys don't know this, 99 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: but like we all love each other, and I remember thinking, okay, LEXI, yeah, but. 100 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 4: In that moment, I saw the love someone's hurting, like 101 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 4: I have heard through this and the things that they 102 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 4: actually finally saw that was happening to me. 103 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 2: Nothing but love, Nothing but love was received. And I 104 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: love that. Yes I did. I loved it too. 105 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: And I think your mess not think I know your 106 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: message resonated with me. I'm sure it's going to resonate 107 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: with everybody who saw it. And I just hope that 108 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: because of what you spearheaded that we can all be 109 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: better and do better and just hold each other accountable. 110 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 2: It'll be that voice. 111 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 4: And you know, I this opportunity and this to say 112 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 4: something about it and have you there to just like 113 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: support me has meant so much to me. 114 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: Oh and I do. 115 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 4: I hope that it goes forward and we stop this 116 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 4: because you know, we're. 117 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: Just going to love each other a little bit more. Yes, 118 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: we do. So let's talk about moving forward. 119 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: Okay, So you just survived Women Tell All, I survive? 120 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 2: What is next? Paradise Summer games? 121 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: Who knows? 122 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: Very sure? 123 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: Are you interested? 124 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: I want to find love. 125 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 4: I know that, So whichever way that that may happen, 126 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 4: I'm open to it. Skeptical of course, just because of 127 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 4: all the hate, but hopefully it gets better and you know, 128 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 4: who knows, who knows what's going to happen. 129 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: We have a support system around you, so I think like, 130 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: as long as you have that strong circle, you can 131 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 1: combat that hate even on the worst days. Yes, but 132 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: I know you're a hot commodity because this Vaclin Nation 133 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: world is small and the people are talking. They want 134 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: to know if you're going to be out there on 135 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: the beach or wherever summer games may be. You can't 136 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: give us a head something. 137 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 4: I'll say like I do want to find love, and 138 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 4: whatever way that may be, we'll. 139 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: Have to see. So what do you think about the ending? 140 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: I have to get your opinion on this because we 141 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: saw tonight that Madison is clearly struggling. We saw Victoria 142 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: f goes home and now it's down to Madison and 143 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: Hannah knowing everything that came out, because I heard your 144 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: response to Madison's the decisions that she has made is 145 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: she's navigated this journey. 146 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: But how do you really feel? 147 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: No, because all y'all gave really politically correct answers, and 148 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: I happen to think I think what you said is 149 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: right about her being true to her like beliefs and 150 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: her standards and the commitment that she's made. 151 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 2: That's beautiful. But you find no issue in the timing 152 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: of it all. 153 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 4: I you know, I will say, I think she may 154 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 4: it may have been in her best interest to speak 155 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 4: about it before she did, Okay, I think she waited 156 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 4: till the absolute last second and not rub some people 157 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 4: the wrong way. She and I thought if she looking 158 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 4: back now, I think she would have even brought it 159 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 4: up before she did. But in that I will say 160 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 4: that I Madison is who she says she is going 161 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 4: to waiver no matter if there's a fantasy suite or not. 162 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 3: Madison's not going to do that. 163 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: And she holds herself to you know what she's always been, 164 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 4: you know, lived her whole life. 165 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: So what do you think about someone coming on the show, like, 166 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 1: let's just be honest. And I feel like I'm Christian, 167 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: let's just be honest that the batchler isn't, like, you know. 168 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: Standing on biblical standards. So what do you think. 169 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: About someone who comes on the show knowing how the 170 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: show is and then. 171 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: Has comes all the way to the end. 172 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: Yes, you know, possibly taking somebody else's place and potentially 173 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: may leave for that same reason. Like, do you think 174 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: that's fair? Do you think that's selfish? 175 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 2: I don't think it's selfish. 176 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 4: I think that Madison, like I said, should have just 177 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 4: brought it up before she did and it would have 178 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 4: gone a little bit better. Yes, we know the show, 179 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 4: it's not you know, their sex is involved in this show. 180 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: It's not a secret. 181 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: And her knowing her you know views on that. 182 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 4: It's if you know, it's one of those situations where 183 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 4: it's just it's like, what are you going to do? 184 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 4: You know, you know you're in this position, You've gotten 185 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 4: this far, you love this man, and there's certain steps 186 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 4: that are going to be made with other women, and 187 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 4: however you feel about it doesn't really matter or at 188 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: the end of the day. But I don't think that 189 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 4: she put him in a situation to make this decision. 190 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 3: She was just like, Hey, this is how I feel 191 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 3: about it. 192 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 6: It take it or leave. 193 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 7: It, but this is how I'm going to feel no 194 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 7: matter what happens. 195 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: You know, Okay, Well, what do you think is going 196 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: to happen. You know, we don't know. 197 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: Apparently according to Christy is Peter it's I don't know 198 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 1: what that means. 199 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 3: You know what, Peter has. 200 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 4: Had a reputation for not being able to make decisions. 201 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 4: So I think it's a case of like he hasn't 202 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 4: made his decision. 203 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: Yet, as in like between the women. 204 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, like they're saying, you know, like he's unspoilt, like 205 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 4: she can't be unspoiled. 206 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 3: Well, how can it not be unspoiled? Maybe he hasn't 207 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,199 Speaker 3: even decided. Who knows. 208 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here, which I appreciate you, 209 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: and thank you for what you did tonight. 210 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you. 211 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 8: All right. 212 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: Next in the hot seat is she Inn, which I 213 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: am so excited to talk to you because I feel 214 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: like on the season we didn't see much. But first 215 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: of all, congratt for surviving women. Tell all, that's a 216 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: feat in itself. But you were talking, you were getting 217 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: into it. You and Lexi had some tifts. I don't 218 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: want to get all messy, but I'm just saying, yeah, 219 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 1: it was nice because I think we saw you very 220 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: quiet on this show. So how did it feel tonight 221 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: sitting up there on stage and really getting to express 222 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: what this journey. 223 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: Was for you. 224 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 9: It was honestly, so on the show, I was a 225 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 9: lot more quiet. I didn't want to get involved in 226 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 9: the drama because I was there to find my person. 227 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 3: I wasn't there. 228 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 9: To start stuff being stuff like I don't want it. 229 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 9: But then you know that doesn't mean I don't have 230 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 9: my feelings about situations, right, and so you know, I'm like, 231 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 9: okay at the tell all, like I need to express 232 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 9: how I feel because I didn't express any of that 233 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 9: when I was on the show, or you know, nothing 234 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 9: was shown, and so that's kind of yeah, that's kind 235 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 9: of why tonight. I just I just took it and 236 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 9: I was like, look, these are the situations and this 237 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 9: is this is like. 238 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 2: A real thing. 239 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: Well I was here for yeah, I said, so please 240 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: be quiet so she a't can speak? 241 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: Oh please? 242 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 10: Yeah? 243 00:09:59,000 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 7: Yeah. 244 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: So you and I were talking just a bit before 245 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: we got on the mic, yes for Bachelor Happy Hour. 246 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: So when Peter came to the show, yes, the only 247 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: time we've had him all I should know, I lie, 248 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: we've had him on twice. So when Peter actually came 249 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: in the flesh to Bachelor Happy Hour, he revealed that 250 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: he didn't pick any of the flight attendants. He sent 251 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 1: home three flight attendants the first night, but then he 252 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 1: said there was one that revealed herself in a very 253 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: interesting way, and we never saw that on the show. 254 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: So is there something that you want to tell us 255 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 1: that we don't know? 256 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 7: So I, yes, I used to be a flight attendant. 257 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: Okay, she's the one guy more surprised. 258 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I used to be a flight attendant. 259 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 3: It was a couple of years back. 260 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 9: But after night one and I realized he sent all 261 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 9: of them home, I was like, uh uh, Like, I'm 262 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 9: keeping that a little like, I gotta I gotta build 263 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 9: a relationship first before I high. 264 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: Do you play chess? Because you were playing chess night 265 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: and you were winning. Because the three of them I 266 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: go home. 267 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 9: And I was like, and so when I told him 268 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 9: like that I was a flight attendant, it was in 269 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 9: that kind of dramatic scene. So we were sitting there, 270 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 9: We're having our conversation, and I was like, how are you, Jane? 271 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 5: Good? 272 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 9: Okay, cool, but there's something I need to tell you 273 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 9: and he's like what And I was like God, And 274 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 9: I like started like kind of having like a mini 275 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 9: panic attack, and it's it's on my chest, like I've 276 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 9: been laying in bed staying up late about this, Like 277 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 9: it's I just I don't want you to think anything 278 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 9: different about me. And he's like Jan, what, like you're 279 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 9: really scaring me? And I'm like, I take this long 280 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 9: break and he's like, Jan, tell me. And I look 281 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 9: up at him and I'm just like. 282 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: I used to be a flight attendant. He's like, are 283 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: you freaking gidding? 284 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 3: Maybe like jumped back in his seat and he's like. 285 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 9: Oh my god, you scared the crab out of me. 286 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 9: I thought it was something else and we just laughed 287 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 9: and like talked about flying. 288 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 3: It's somebody well, he. 289 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: Was still talking about it because he loves it. 290 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: He was excited to tell us. 291 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: I DMed him the other day because I'm like, who 292 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: was this mystery flight attendant? 293 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 2: And when he told me it was you, I was like, 294 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 2: are you kidding me? And he's so upset that that 295 00:11:58,240 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: didn't make the cut. 296 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 9: It was so great, Like I'm so sad that didn't 297 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 9: show because there was a lot of me crying and 298 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 9: I was like and that was like one moment where 299 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 9: I was like, Oh, they're gonna show this and everyone's 300 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 9: gonna be like yeah, and any even show, I was 301 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,199 Speaker 9: like great, okay, fine. 302 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you have any regrets? Because it's 303 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: it's one thing to be in it all and then 304 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: you go home and then you watch where you were 305 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: a part of it and then so much. 306 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 2: More of it back. 307 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: Do you feel like you have any regrets from this season? 308 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 9: I definitely could have been more aggressive, im you know, 309 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 9: it's hard when you're on the show. You try, but 310 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 9: that doesn't mean you get your way. Yeah, and I 311 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 9: definitely did try, but I could have been more like no, 312 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 9: like I need this, I'm going, you know, go go go, 313 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 9: rather than than being like no and be like okay, 314 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 9: like yeah, I should have been more aggressive. And that's 315 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 9: kind of one thing, like I definitely wish I could 316 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 9: have done one. 317 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: Well, I can see why you didn't want to be 318 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: aggressive because there was a lot of aggressive. 319 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 9: Behavior and I'm not really I'm not a person to 320 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 9: just be naggy like that. I'm just not like I 321 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 9: will put forth the effort, but I'm not one to 322 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 9: just be in your face all the time. Go go, 323 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,839 Speaker 9: go go, you know. So that was something that was 324 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 9: challenging for me. 325 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: Who are you close with from your season. 326 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 9: I'm actually really close with Tammy. Me and Tammy are 327 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 9: super close. 328 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: I am so actually happy that you said that because 329 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: I love her so much. Watching tonight, it seems like 330 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: who's friends with I think at one point I saw 331 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: you kind of like consoling Tammy, but I. 332 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 2: Was like, Who's friends with? 333 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: Tammy? Just seemed to be so much build up an 334 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: attack on Tammy, And I get it, Tammy. 335 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 2: Tammy made some mistakes she did throughout the show. 336 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: Everybody did right, and I think, you know, I relate 337 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: to someone with a strong personality and a lot of opinions, 338 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: and you know, sometimes we navigate things differently. But it's 339 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: really nice to hear that Tammy actually has a friend 340 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: at the house. I like, we talk every day, Well, 341 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: can every day you like about Tammy because it seems 342 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: like I feel like it's it's lost in some. 343 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 2: Of the drama. 344 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 9: The thing is is that regardless of and it's with 345 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 9: that person, like, regardless if she. 346 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: Gives you the tough love when you hate it, she's. 347 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 9: There when you're sad, when you're upset, if you need 348 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 9: someone to talk to you, she listens, but then she 349 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 9: kind of brings you back and she's like Okay, have 350 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 9: your moment, but also like come back and you're better 351 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 9: than that and move forward. Don't really like listen to 352 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 9: the hate. Don't do this, like and that's it's a 353 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 9: great thing to have. Like, yes, she's tender in those 354 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 9: moments of where you need a good friend and use 355 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 9: a shoulder crown, but like she also builds your backbone 356 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 9: and she's like, don't be weepy, like come on. 357 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 6: And I think we see that. 358 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right, and we all need that friend. And 359 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: I think we do see that. 360 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: It's just so much happened after that. We forgot, because 361 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: let's not forget. During Champagne Gay, it was Tammy who 362 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: was and that's converting Kelsey and who was checking to 363 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: see if everyone's okay And she was like Hannah Ann 364 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: said she didn't, and she was really trying to be 365 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: the mediator, yes, and dissolve the situation and then kind 366 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: of find a resolution to it. 367 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 9: She I mean, yes, she's strong in her words, and 368 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 9: some people just can't take that for what it is 369 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 9: without feeling attacked. And I don't think it ever comes 370 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 9: in a place of being attacked. I think that some 371 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 9: of those moments, you know, between Kelsey and Tammy and 372 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 9: Sydney and Tammy or whatever and that at that in 373 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 9: Costa Rica, it was just I feel like Tammy was 374 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 9: feeling attacked and then that's when it. 375 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 2: Just came out. 376 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, you know and I and that can happen to anybody. 377 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 9: I don't think that's a fault on Tammy. 378 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 10: I told her. 379 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 9: I was like, you could have handled it a little 380 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 9: bit better, right, But that's with anyone into the learning experience. Yeah, 381 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 9: so you watch it back and you're like, yeah, that 382 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 9: wasn't right. I should have said it this way. 383 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: And you think she learned from this experience. Definitely good. 384 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: Good for her. 385 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: So before I let you go, I have to ask you, 386 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: because we have no idea what happens at the end 387 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: of this is a first, not a first that I 388 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: necessarily like, I want to know what's happening. 389 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 2: So what happens at the end of it? 390 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: Where? What do you think happens at the end of 391 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: this season? 392 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 2: God, I truly don't know. 393 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 9: And I've tried to figure I've tried to like make equations. 394 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 9: I'm like writing it down like that Madison does this, 395 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 9: and then and then Hannah Ann does this, and then 396 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 9: Peter goes home and Barb's crying. 397 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 2: Matt like, I've like. 398 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 9: Literally written it down and try to figure out the answer. 399 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 9: I don't know, because every time I see an episode, 400 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 9: I'm like, oh no, it's this, and my whole thing changes. 401 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: And when you were saying that, all I saw was 402 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: the meme where the woman has the equation in the 403 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: chalkboard behind her and she just more confused and more. 404 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: That's me. 405 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 2: It's just I. That's all of us. Yeah, it's all 406 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: of us. Well, thank you so much for being here. 407 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 9: It's so nice to me say, oh, okay, this is 408 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 9: my first podcast, and I'm so honored. 409 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 2: I love you some more time. I literally all the. 410 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 9: Time, and I'm just like, oh my god, oh well, 411 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 9: thank you so much for being here. 412 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: Not everybody gets to come in. 413 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: The hot scene, so it's such a pleasure to meet you. 414 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 2: Have fun to night because I know the after party 415 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: is going to be popping. 416 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 7: I'm ready for the pizza. 417 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: Oh oh, I don't know there was pizza. Okay, let's go. 418 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 3: Thank you. 419 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: I just want to say how fabulous Aleyah looks. Listen 420 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: this sequence suit and I'm not a big sequence for 421 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: actually all ever since being faster, reatt it's what I 422 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: don't are with the sparkle. 423 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 2: This looks amazing. 424 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 8: Thank you? 425 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 2: What size are? 426 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: You can buy whatever you want girls, I can't fit 427 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: the same thing. Listen, I keep telling everyone this. You 428 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: survived Women Tell All. I feel like a lot of 429 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: people had eyes on you, questions about what kind of 430 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: went down. There just seems to be so much in 431 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 1: the air. Do you feel like you got everything out 432 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: that you needed to say tonight? 433 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 6: I feel like I did. I mean, it's hard being 434 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 6: in that. I know that I was really kind of 435 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,719 Speaker 6: dreading going to Women Tell All because I'm not an 436 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 6: aggressive personality, and obviously we have a lot of aggressive 437 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 6: personalities in our group, and I was really nervous that 438 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,439 Speaker 6: I wasn't going to be able to say what I 439 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 6: had to say. 440 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 2: But now that it's all over and. 441 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 6: I can breathe again, I feel pretty good about how 442 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 6: everything happened. 443 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: Well, people didn't attack you. No, it wasn't about you, Honestly, 444 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,160 Speaker 1: it seemed to be more of more of the heat 445 00:17:59,240 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: was on Victoria. 446 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, Victoria p Yeah. 447 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 6: I mean I feel like there was a lot of 448 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 6: Like I said, there's a lot of miscommunication. There's a 449 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 6: lot of lack of communication, and I feel like a 450 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 6: lot of America and the girls in the house had questions. 451 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 6: But I do feel like we were able to kind 452 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 6: of address those. 453 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: Do you because I feel like I still have some questions, like, 454 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: for example, did you really know each other longer than 455 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: three hours? 456 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 6: Yes? 457 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 2: Okay, that's just seems to be the biggest one. 458 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, what to sum up when you heard watching back 459 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: the conversation that Victoria had with Peter about you, Victoria 460 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: p Sorry had with Peter about you. 461 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 2: Sum up your reaction in one word. 462 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 6: I mean, I was taken aback, for sure. I wasn't 463 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 6: expecting that. It was hard to watch for me because 464 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 6: coming into this, I did expect for us to have 465 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 6: each other's back. But I understand that when you're asked 466 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 6: a question and you have a feeling, you're going to 467 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 6: express that, you're going to be honest about your feelings. Again, 468 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:56,959 Speaker 6: I just feel like it was a lack of communication 469 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 6: going into that, and I wish that we would have 470 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 6: had the chance to talk about it before Peter asked 471 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 6: about it. Yeah, but we didn't, and that's unfortunate. 472 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: Where do you guys stand today? 473 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,239 Speaker 6: I mean, we kind of just respect each other, like 474 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 6: we understand that we didn't communicate enough through this and 475 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 6: that we want to both move past this. We don't 476 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 6: want this to define us, to find the group of 477 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 6: friends that we're in, and we just want to kind 478 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 6: of have like a mutual respect for each other. 479 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 2: That's good. 480 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's very adult and mature of you. Yes, there 481 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 6: doesn't have to be a winner, loser, or writer wrong. 482 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 6: We just respect each other's opinion. 483 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 8: Right. 484 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: So, I have an important question for you that I 485 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: know America wants to know. 486 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 2: Do you have a job? Three jobs? And please tell 487 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 2: them what? Tell people what they are. 488 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 6: I didn't realize my occupation would be so interesting either, 489 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 6: So the obvious. I'm an orthodonic asistant. I modeled professionally, 490 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 6: and I own a boutique. 491 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 1: Good for you, girl. Tell people where they can find 492 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: the boutique. I mean we bought as well. Pump it 493 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: off the podcast boutique. 494 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 6: I got these earrings from my boutique, so we have 495 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 6: keet access states. It's me, my mom, and my sister. 496 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 6: We run it together. 497 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: Good for you. So what's next? 498 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: Well, first, no, I like to ask this question because 499 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: I've been in your shoes before. I know what it's 500 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: like to have a sisterhood in the house, and you 501 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: guys got a lot of heat for not having a sisterhood. 502 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: Seems to be a lot of cattiness. And then but 503 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: then Lexi was like, well, we all love each other. Yeah, 504 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: so who were you close with in the house. 505 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 6: Is an obvious Savannah. Savannah's my girl. 506 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 2: Man, Savannah, you're my back girl. 507 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: We all need a Savannah in our lives and saying 508 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,919 Speaker 1: how but I feel like as Texas girls as we 509 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: just have each other's backs like that. Savannahs from Texas too, right, Yep? 510 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 2: Did y'all know each other before? 511 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 6: No, we didn't, So we met on the show. Were 512 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 6: already have plans to go to the rodeo together. I mean, 513 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 6: if that's a rodeo. 514 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: At the rodeo, she Liz was before me at the rodeo, 515 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm almost oh my god, I need to see you. 516 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 2: I am almost. 517 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: Positive because the rodeo is what like next week or 518 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: something like that, next month, next month. Time road already 519 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: happened the Houston rodeo. I'm pretty sure. Oh listening, that's 520 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: that is performing because she used to live in Houston. 521 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 2: She's so good. 522 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm obsessed with her. 523 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad I could do you that favor. Thank you, 524 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: Thank you for that. So what's next for you? Paradise 525 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: summer games? 526 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 6: Pudi's asking, I don't think I'm fit enough for summer games. 527 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna lie. I'm the cheerleader on the sidepline. 528 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 6: Cheerleading is a sport, it's totally you watch cheer No. 529 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: I was like, I could Matt talk you. That's a thing. 530 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 6: Oh really, my sister did cheerleader. Okay, so I understand, 531 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 6: like the sideline. 532 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: Go, but I don't know. 533 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 6: Everybody keeps asking about Paradise, and genuinely, I have no idea. 534 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 6: I feel like that's one of those decisions I'm just 535 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 6: gonna make when the question come. 536 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: You are so put together, and I get it, like 537 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 2: I can be. 538 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: I wasn't in pagets, but like just being an attorney 539 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: and like feeling like you have to be. 540 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 6: On, like you know how to turn it on, I 541 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 6: know an appropriate situation. 542 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 2: Yes I know, Yes, I know how to put on 543 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: a show as well. I get it. 544 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: So my question to you is what do you do 545 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: to like let your hair down and go crazy? 546 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 2: Like are you ever not put together? 547 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 3: Oh my god. 548 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean did you see me help a counter? Yes? 549 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 2: Very drunk about that? 550 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 1: Ye? About bored? 551 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 2: Those are the best moments. 552 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 6: It was so fun. I had the best day of 553 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 6: that day until everything kind of fell apart. But I 554 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,679 Speaker 6: was just bored and I was like, you know what, 555 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 6: I've been in this house for three days. I'm going 556 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 6: to get drunk tonight and I'm gonna have some pizza 557 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,879 Speaker 6: and some cookies. And one thing led to another. I 558 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 6: found the pilot's hat and next thing you know, I'm 559 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 6: on the counter talking about the Mile High Club. I 560 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 6: don't it just happened? 561 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: Well, you know what, you want me to share a 562 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: secret with you? One day we were really like had 563 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 1: nothing to do. You know how it is like when 564 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: you don't have a date and you're like, okay, well 565 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: like drink, play games whatever. 566 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: We started talking about turking. 567 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: I feel like tworking was like so big basin and 568 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: I was like, do you know how to twirk on 569 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: the wall? And so we taught everybody how to tork 570 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: on the wall, like that was like our thing. 571 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 8: Yeah. 572 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know who I would ever on. 573 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: I've never even done it for my husband. 574 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 6: Maybe you apparently that I art listening to this. He's 575 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 6: gonna be like, baby, I know what happened. 576 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: You know what we used to joke and say, the 577 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: reason we're getting roses is because we're like remember that 578 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: night that we were all talking on the wall. Oh yeah, 579 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: that's what we do in our one on one time. No, 580 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, your naves are like mine twins. 581 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 2: You guys, we're having a moment. 582 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 5: Hair. 583 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 2: You can't see it, but we're having a moment. 584 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,440 Speaker 1: It's like there's something deep walk rooted in Texas spirit. 585 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 6: Yeah right, it's just a thing you've seen somebody from Texas. 586 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, I got you, girl, I got you. 587 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 3: All right? 588 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: Well, is there anything else do you feel like you 589 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: want to clear up that you. 590 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: Want to say? 591 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 6: Gosh, yes, I listened to your podcast. 592 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: Oh when I called you Alayah. 593 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 6: It's just something the Texas longhorn being my spirit animal 594 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 6: I got and I went to a game shortly after 595 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 6: listening to I'm like, yeah, he's boring. Never mind, it's 596 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 6: a kuala. My new spirit air wall is a kuala. 597 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 2: So you changed it because of what I said you. 598 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: At first, I was like, yeah. 599 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 6: Texas Pride long horns. Then I'm like, no, yeah, he's boring. 600 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 2: Did you callow Texas? 601 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 3: No, I'm just okay. 602 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: But so well, you're close enough there except for the 603 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: time that he almost tried to. 604 00:23:58,920 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 2: Run over the dogs. 605 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: That was that was that's your spirit animal. 606 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 3: I'm beavo against Georgia. 607 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 2: Georgia bulder. Yeah, Georgia bulldogs. 608 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, thank you so much for being here, and 609 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: I just wish you the best on your journey. 610 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: We hope to see you on something else. 611 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: We'll see we want more of you in the pilot 612 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: head toronk on top of the counter. 613 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, we know she's in there. We know she's 614 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 2: in there. 615 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: That's our fans I have sitting in front of me 616 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: with a mouthful of pizza. Kelsey, Kelsey, welcome to the show. 617 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of where I want to start 618 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: with you. 619 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 3: Just bring it all. I'm ready for it. 620 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,719 Speaker 2: Well, you survived women tell all. 621 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: That's what I say. That's an honor in itself. How 622 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: do you think it went? 623 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: How do you think you did? 624 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 3: I think for the most party did. Okay. 625 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 11: You know, I'm I'm somebody that can embrace my flaws. 626 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 11: I can own up to when I was in the 627 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,959 Speaker 11: wrong and just make humor of it. And that's what 628 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 11: I tried to do. The thing about me is I 629 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 11: did express to the girls in the house how I 630 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 11: felt about them. 631 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 3: I didn't talk crap in the interviews. 632 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 2: Oh so it's a rare characteristic. 633 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 11: I knew people knew how I felt about them going 634 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 11: into it, and we had most of everything hashed out. 635 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 636 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 11: I think the girls that didn't do that were a 637 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 11: little bit more scared. So for me, it was just 638 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 11: kind of like, all right, let's see. 639 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: What I've said everything I have to say. That's a 640 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: rare thing. 641 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 2: I'm like that too. 642 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 3: But that's why that's why it was controversial in the house. 643 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 2: Well, because you said stuff. 644 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 11: I think so, because a lot of the girls, you know, 645 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 11: would kind of say stuff a little bit, but then 646 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 11: in their interviews they would say more mm hm. So 647 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 11: then it kind of got a little bit more controversial 648 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 11: at the women to all. 649 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was talking to she and because she said 650 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: she's really close to Tammy, and you know, I was 651 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: thinking about this and I'm like, what went wrong? Because 652 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: that night at Champagne Gate, she was the one who 653 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: was like right there with you. 654 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: Did you see her interviews, not at that point. They 655 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 2: turned later, But it turns. 656 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 11: Later if you actually paid it tension, because I go 657 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 11: out and watch now, I was paying attention. She was 658 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 11: talking about how crazy I was in that moment, how 659 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 11: Peter needed to know and all this stuff. 660 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 1: So she was already in the champagne moment. 661 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 2: But it was a crazy moment, Kelsey, soh. 662 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: Obviously it was it was I were that shit, But 663 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: be honest, I. 664 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 2: Laughed and I actually took. 665 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: Up for you on the podcast because I was like, 666 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: she's not a bully. I mean, it was crazy, but 667 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: I was like, you weren't a bully in that moment, 668 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: and I hate when that word is so. 669 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 8: For we used. I was. 670 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: She cursed her out, but she didn't bully. 671 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 11: But I think, in Hannahan knowsis the reason I was 672 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 11: so heated in that moment was because if she would 673 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 11: have just left me alone, I wouldn't. I didn't go 674 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 11: up to her and like continue. 675 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: To be mean. 676 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 2: When did y'all become friends? 677 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 11: Honestly, it was on our way down to Costa Rica. 678 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,640 Speaker 11: On the plane, her and I sat next to each 679 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 11: other both times, which never happened. Oh, it was like 680 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 11: this rare God sent thing and her and I just 681 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 11: talked everything out and it was nice because it was 682 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 11: off camera. I know the viewers want to see that, 683 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 11: but I think even if we did it on camera, 684 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 11: it wouldn't have really been and maybe wouldn't have been shown, 685 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 11: and people wouldn't have really cared because there was so 686 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 11: much trauma going on. 687 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: Well, I appreciated it, actually, and I didn't notice it 688 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 1: at first. It was back of my co host who 689 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,360 Speaker 1: couldn't be here today. Shout out to Becca. She noticed it. 690 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: How you when Hannah Ann came back from what was it, 691 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 1: three on one two one on something like that, you 692 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,239 Speaker 1: ran up to her and you hugged her and we 693 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: were like, see, we can't all get along. 694 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 11: But what's funny is people it's this is the hard 695 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 11: thing about the show because my drama happened so early on, 696 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 11: and that was really the first time, the first thing 697 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 11: people saw of me, that was their first impression of me. 698 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 11: So it was like me trying to climb a mountain 699 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 11: to get people to see who I really was. Whereas 700 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 11: for a lot of girls, people got to see who 701 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 11: they were and then they got in drama and it's like, oh, 702 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 11: it's just bad moment. Yeah, But for me it was like, oh, 703 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 11: well I can't get past the champagne thing. 704 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 3: Does that make sense? 705 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 11: Yeah, so if you actually watched the show in Costa Rica, 706 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 11: Hannah and I had a one on one girl chat. 707 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 3: But a lot of. 708 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 11: People dismiss that, Yeah, it is in their mind. And 709 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 11: then I went crazy, you know, with calling sinning what 710 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 11: I did. 711 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 3: I got a little intoxicated. 712 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that wasn't I felt like champagne Gate was 713 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: so big that you really had nowhere to go from up. 714 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,439 Speaker 1: But like, you really went up fast. And I think 715 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people were surprised at the progression of 716 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: your relationship with Peter. A lot of people like, whether 717 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: they liked it or not, that you went and talked 718 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: to Peter privately, whatever it is, you and Peter had something, 719 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: and you made it all the way to hometowns yep, 720 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: And I think people started to change on you. 721 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 11: I know the amount of hate I got from champagne Gate. 722 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 11: Some of those messages on the board were from me, 723 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 11: and I did out people on my own personal account, 724 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 11: and I got mixed reviews about it. 725 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: Some people, if you're bold enough to send the message, 726 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: then you're bold enough to. 727 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 3: Let people and I used to be able to show 728 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 3: on it. 729 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 11: I blocked that out, but I even even from Bachelor Nation, 730 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 11: I got some messages like, hey, you're better than that. 731 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 11: You're feeding into their like what they want, You're feeding 732 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 11: the whatever. And I'm like, but I'm not because I'm 733 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 11: not showing who it is. But I also think it's 734 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 11: important to put it out there. So I'm really happy 735 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 11: that we. 736 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 3: Got to talk about that tonight because good. 737 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: I think it's important and I think it was important too, 738 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: and I'm glad that, like you guys were so open 739 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: about you know, you're sharing your own experiences because it's 740 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: not always easy. 741 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 2: And I think as one person did, everyone else did. 742 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: And it sounds like you guys had talked with each 743 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: other too about some of the experiences that you're sharing. 744 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: And I think when you have that power circle of friends, 745 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 1: it really helps you combat this because nobody gets this, 746 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: no what you're going through. 747 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 11: And I think when I put those messages on my 748 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 11: Instagram story, I had so many girls that I hadn't 749 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 11: really talked to that reach out. It's like, this isn't okay. 750 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 11: I get this all the time, you know, kind of 751 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 11: like all right, we didn't see eyed eye, but we 752 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 11: can level on the fact that we know we're going through. 753 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 3: So that was reassuring. Yeah, it almost bonds you in 754 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: a way. 755 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 2: It does. 756 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: It does real quick paradise summer games? Would you do those? 757 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 11: I think I would like summer games more just because 758 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 11: I'm such a competitive person. You didn't going to see 759 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 11: this because I was on all the glam dates. I 760 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 11: would have loved to do tackle football, but I didn't 761 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 11: want the bruises. 762 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 3: So I'm happy for that fact. 763 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: But I would have ran over some girls go just 764 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: to know they're listening. 765 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: They're listening to this. 766 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: Also, who does Peter pick Hannah Ann Madison or himself? 767 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 3: I can't decide between the two, so I'm going to 768 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 3: say himself. 769 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 11: Okay that just because I can decide between I go 770 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 11: back and forth every other day. 771 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 2: I'm Grey Picks. Nothing wrong with that me too. Well, 772 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 2: thank you so much for being here. 773 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: It's so nice to meet meet. Where's that bottle of champagne? 774 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: I wanted some of that? You didn't pop that thing? 775 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 3: I I don't know. I have like champagne all over me. 776 00:30:51,280 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 3: But all right, sitting here with. 777 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 1: Me now is Lexi? So I know something about you 778 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: that maybe you don't think that I know. Oh, I 779 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: heard you were the coolest chick. 780 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 2: In the house. 781 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: That's literally how it was described to me. They were like, 782 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: oh my god, Lexi's the coolest. 783 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 3: I love that. 784 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 7: That's awesome, But I don't think I'm the coolest that. 785 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: I mean, like, we didn't see a lot of you 786 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: on the season, but I felt like when you spoke 787 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: it was like very matter of fact. You were very chill. 788 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: You didn't seem to get like involved in the drama. Yeah, 789 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: I had the girl click. Y'all have y'all had a 790 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 1: little click. 791 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: It's okay. We were. They called us the cool kiss. 792 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:34,719 Speaker 2: We had a click too. 793 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 7: I just like you're in the house when there's thirty 794 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 7: different women, Yeah, you're gonna, you know, be drawn to 795 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 7: certain people and they become like your safe place in 796 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 7: the house. So that that really was that group of girls. 797 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 7: And we're just very outspoken. 798 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, fancastic as hell. 799 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 7: We just joke around a lot with each other, like 800 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 7: we have very like self depreciating humors. Yeah, and I 801 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 7: think you needed that kind of like comedic relief in 802 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 7: the situation. 803 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 3: We were in. 804 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, let me ask you this because I feel like 805 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: after watching you tonight and women tell all you are opinionated, 806 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: you're outspoken girl after my own heart, but you tell 807 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: it like it is so watching as a viewer what 808 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: was happening in the house with the women, it was 809 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: like insane. 810 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: You know, you've gotten a lot of flack. Yeah, was 811 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 2: it really that bad? 812 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 3: It was worse? 813 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I think it would have self eliminated. 814 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 7: Well, that's the thing is I started to just like 815 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 7: it was almost funny, like how have we gotten so 816 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,479 Speaker 7: far off track of what we're supposed to be focusing on, 817 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 7: which is Peter. Yeah, like we're talking about champagne bottles 818 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 7: and friendships before and we don't who cares? Yeah, it 819 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 7: just started to get so noisy. I just wanted to 820 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 7: be like, like, what just happening? 821 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 2: You just have to last to survive. 822 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 7: So I think I didn't realize that. I thought I 823 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 7: was coming off like a crazy person. 824 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like because by the time we got to coas Draka. 825 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 7: I had I hit my my mark. I was like, 826 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 7: that's it, I'm going to say exactly what I want. 827 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 7: And I felt like I did that all the way through. 828 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: Sure, but. 829 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 7: I just I was there truly just to find a connection. 830 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 7: I believe, I don't care if I win. I didn't 831 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 7: care if I went home at night one that he 832 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 7: wasn't my person. Yeah, it was so nice to meet 833 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 7: you because I'm very happy with my life. Yeah, and 834 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 7: I want someone to share it with. Yeah, that's the 835 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 7: whole That was it for me. 836 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: Do you think that was your demise? Like, do you 837 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: think that that's why you ended up? You didn't participate 838 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: in the drama. He seems to like when a girl 839 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: shows emotion, you know, like almost confuses that with depth. 840 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: We talk about that on the podcast, confuses the two. 841 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: Do you think like that that was probably why you 842 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: went home? Yeah. 843 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 7: I think it was a multiple things. I definitely could 844 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 7: have opened up a little bit more earlier on. It 845 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 7: was just hard, I think far with everything else going on, 846 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 7: and a lot of the conversations turned to what was 847 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 7: going on with other girls? Yeah, And I was like, Peter, 848 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 7: I'm so glad that you want to ask me, but 849 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 7: I'm also not your therapist, Like, yeah, I won't trying 850 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 7: to date you. Yeah, and we just keep talking about 851 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 7: other girls. So that was a little frustrating, But I 852 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 7: just I understood where he was coming from like I 853 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 7: felt for him. I wanted to give him some sort 854 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 7: of guidance if that's really what he wanted. And I 855 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 7: don't think I would change anything, Like I learned so 856 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,799 Speaker 7: much about my gold and I'm even more vocal, you know, 857 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 7: like I have no problem. 858 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 1: Just oh you were vocal or you were vocal tonight, 859 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: I said, Well, like I was talking to she and 860 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: I was like, what's up with you? 861 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 2: And LEXI? I mean, which I was, well, no, no, 862 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 2: I know. Interesting for me too. 863 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: Well, I was proud of her because it was like 864 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: she wanted to speak and have her voice because we 865 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: didn't see it much on the season. We didn't see 866 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 1: yours on the season, so it was I was like, wow, 867 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: you know, like Lex really, honestly, you should have spoken 868 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: up more. Maybe you could have narrated this whole season 869 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,279 Speaker 1: and we could have gotten through it a lot more 870 00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: faster with complete sentences and thoughts and you know. 871 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:09,800 Speaker 2: What I'm saying. 872 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 7: I mean, that's the thing is you never know what's 873 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 7: going to be in the show. I was vocal, but 874 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 7: I think I held back a little because I was like, 875 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 7: what this is, what's going on? Yeah? And I just 876 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 7: wanted to kind of ride it out. I didn't want 877 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 7: to be in the drama because that's not who I like. Yeah, 878 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 7: I don't get involved in that. 879 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 880 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 7: But when it started to affect my time with Peter, yeah, 881 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 7: that's when I was like, Okay, we need to stop this, 882 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 7: yause it just felt like the train was going off 883 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 7: the tracks a little. 884 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: You had a very interesting comment tonight, and I keep 885 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: talking about it because it was almost shocking. It was 886 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: a beautiful statement, but it was shocking. 887 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 2: It caught me off guard. 888 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: You said, I know it doesn't seem like it, but 889 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 1: we all love each other. 890 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 2: When did that love come about? 891 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 1: Because if, for damn sure didn't come in the season, 892 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:55,799 Speaker 1: did it pop off in the group chat? 893 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 2: Did y'all slide in these others? 894 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: DM? 895 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 2: Would the love fest come about? 896 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 3: I guess yes. 897 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm the oldest of five kids and I 898 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 7: have four sisters, and we fight and we say whatever 899 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,919 Speaker 7: we want and we are honest with each other. 900 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 3: And right after we. 901 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 7: You know, you can you can hug, and you can 902 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 7: move on. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean 903 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,879 Speaker 7: you don't have love for them. 904 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:18,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 905 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 7: While we were filming and where we're all at now 906 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 7: is very different place, and we've all learned from that. 907 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 7: And we also, you know, like I wasn't perfect, no 908 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 7: one was perfect. And I think we just have grace 909 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 7: for each other now. 910 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 2: Hindsight's twenty twenty. I think you all are and you 911 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 2: learn so much just you. 912 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 7: You know, like it's something you can never replicate. It's 913 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 7: a group of women that you know, no one else 914 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 7: in the world will get to know exactly what happened 915 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 7: in the house. We just have a bond because of that. Yeah, 916 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 7: that makes sense PTSD a little, you know, Yeah, experience, 917 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 7: you bond. 918 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm interested in the year from now who all will be. 919 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 7: Close, because that's always the thing that's really Yes, we'll see. 920 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: Real quick before I let you go, We'll we see 921 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: you in paradise or summer games. 922 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 2: It's a good question. I don't know, would you do 923 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 2: it if you were asked we need more. 924 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 7: Pay not say no, okay, I mean I'm I'm open 925 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 7: to it. You know. I think I had so much 926 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 7: fun filming. I loved this experience. Yeah, I want to 927 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 7: hear and see more of you. So thanks all right, well, 928 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,399 Speaker 7: thank you for being here. Of course, it's so nice 929 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 7: talking to you. 930 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: All right, sitting in the hot seat right now, somebody 931 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: I've been so eager to talk to, Miss Sammy. 932 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 2: Welcome to Bachlor Happy houry, Thanks for having me, Thank 933 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 2: you for being here. Now. 934 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 1: The theme of this is without struggle, there is no progress, 935 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,480 Speaker 1: which is a tattoo that you have on you. So 936 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,799 Speaker 1: let's talk about the struggle, okay, and hopefully there was 937 00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: some progress after today, because congratulations for surviving women. Tell all, 938 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 1: I know it was a lot for you. I'm going 939 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: to start there and let you talk. How do you 940 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: feel something like all of. 941 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 5: Us aired out what we need to air out, and 942 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 5: and I got my point across, whether they wanted to 943 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 5: listen to it or not, and we're ready to move 944 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 5: past this. You know. 945 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 1: I feel like you have that type of personality, like 946 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: you can just let things roll off your back. 947 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 2: You don't really take it to heart. 948 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,799 Speaker 5: I don't take offense too much, really, and I think 949 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 5: it's a waste of energy to just hold a grudge 950 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 5: on something. What I do is I'm gonna let myself 951 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 5: do with it, feel the emotions, and then get over it. 952 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 2: And move on. 953 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: Why do you think that the girls came at you 954 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: so harsh? 955 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 5: I think because I am a very strong personality and 956 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 5: the loudest one in the room, and with that comes 957 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 5: with controversy and people are going to disagree with that, 958 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 5: and that's okay, And honestly, I'm glad I started a 959 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,399 Speaker 5: conversation because I'm here to challenge people. You know, it's 960 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 5: gonna be uncomfortable, and I'm okay with that. 961 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 2: Do you feel like you apologize to people tonight? 962 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: Because I feel like some people came in expecting an 963 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 1: apology from you from either what they saw or what 964 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: they heard or I. 965 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,919 Speaker 2: Don't know what went down in the group chat whatever. 966 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 12: Yeah. 967 00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:01,240 Speaker 2: I between me and Kelsey, we know this, Okay. 968 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 5: I'm not here to say face and apologize, just to apologize, 969 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,800 Speaker 5: like we've already talked about it and it's between me 970 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 5: and her and it's been resolved. 971 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 2: Okay, So I'll go off of that. 972 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: Were you frustrated rehashing a conversation that apparently you guys 973 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,360 Speaker 1: already had off camera. 974 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,760 Speaker 5: Absolutely, and again I think it needs to be said 975 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,240 Speaker 5: on camera and relived again. 976 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,840 Speaker 2: And it does suck for both parties. 977 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 5: You know, we don't like to come at each other 978 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 5: that way. I do respect these girls, and I think 979 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 5: the reason that why we all bought heads is because 980 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 5: we're all very dominant, passionate people. 981 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 2: Do you have any regrets this season? 982 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 5: I don't really have any regrets. I mean, I tried 983 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 5: my best. What you see is kind of what you get. 984 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 2: And I'm not no matter what I think. 985 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 5: It looks villainous because I am the loudest person in 986 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 5: the room and I started an argument, but I could 987 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 5: have farted and he if he canceled the part cocktail party, 988 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 5: people would have blamed me for farting. You know. 989 00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 2: It's just like because that was the person to blame 990 00:39:59,560 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 2: at the time. 991 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: Well, I talked to Shean and she had nothing but 992 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: positive things to say about you. 993 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 5: Andy said, you're no very y'all are very close. Yeah, 994 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 5: we are very close. I love that girl to death. 995 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 2: But what were you saying. 996 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,319 Speaker 5: Anyone who knows you, Anyone who knows me knows that 997 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 5: I'm not a malicious person, you know. I mean, even 998 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 5: ask McKenna and Kelsey think they'll say as well, I'm 999 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,480 Speaker 5: not a nasty human being. We are going to disagree 1000 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 5: with things, but that's the beauty of friendships. Like I'm 1001 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,479 Speaker 5: not going to agree with everything just because you're my friend. 1002 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 2: Well, Lexi Cosetta. 1003 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: She said, you guys all love each other absolutely, and 1004 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: I think we were shocked, but we saw it in 1005 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: a moment when we had that very serious conversation where 1006 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: we were talking about being bullied and spewing hate, and 1007 00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: you guys ran to each other and came to each other. 1008 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: And I was really really happy when you spoke. I 1009 00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: wanted to hear from you because I saw the posts 1010 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,320 Speaker 1: that you talked about about growing up and how you felt, 1011 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 1: and even something you said when you. 1012 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 2: Were we talked about on the podcast when. 1013 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,760 Speaker 1: You were going home in the car and you talked 1014 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: about he wanted a trophy wife, And it rocked me, 1015 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,600 Speaker 1: Tammy when you said that, because I felt you, and 1016 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: in that moment, I felt like you've been misunderstood all season, 1017 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: and I just like, really want to give you an 1018 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: opportunity to talk about that, and I also want to 1019 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: know how this conversation, if it all, has helped you. 1020 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 2: I am actually so happy. 1021 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 5: I wasn't expecting this, and I'm so happy that you 1022 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:24,960 Speaker 5: came on here and talked about it, because I think 1023 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 5: for too long people were getting away with these nasty 1024 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,959 Speaker 5: comments and it's a hate crime and it's not Okay 1025 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 5: for people to hide behind the screen and say these 1026 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 5: things who don't even know me or know us, Like, 1027 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 5: they say nastier things to us than we would ever say. 1028 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 2: To each other. 1029 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,720 Speaker 1: You said that that was a really powerful point. 1030 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 5: Absolutely, and that just says more about like, yeah, we 1031 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,359 Speaker 5: are going to disagree, but I would I would never 1032 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 5: come at someone's character. I would never come at someone's 1033 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 5: like race or how they look. I think that when 1034 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,960 Speaker 5: I did say this trophy wife comment, like yeah, throughout 1035 00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 5: my entire life, I grew up in a very Caucasian community. 1036 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 5: I wanted to be this all American girl so badly. Yeah, 1037 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 5: and I could never be that. And because I can't 1038 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 5: change it, I'm as Asian as it gets. Okay, Like 1039 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 5: you're beautiful, Thank you you guys. She's literally shining. I 1040 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 5: don't know how they let her wear this shirt on stage. 1041 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 5: It looks stunning. 1042 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 13: Production, it looks stunning, but it is against the dress code. 1043 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 13: I was blinding myself with this top. But you like, 1044 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 13: you're beautiful, And we said that on the podcast. I do, 1045 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:29,719 Speaker 13: and I like, And it took a long time for 1046 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:30,319 Speaker 13: me to get there. 1047 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,720 Speaker 5: Like again, like I wanted to buy all the clothes 1048 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 5: that these girls had and. 1049 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 2: Be who these girls were. 1050 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 5: And I think for a long time I envied I 1051 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,400 Speaker 5: wanted to be blonde hair, blood so badly, like I 1052 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 5: would cry my eyes out to my mom. 1053 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 2: She's like, speinheart, you're Asian. There's nothing you can do. 1054 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,520 Speaker 1: But I think that what you said is so powerful, 1055 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 1: and even the social media posts that you had, because 1056 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 1: you are representing yeah someone and it's like I can 1057 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,280 Speaker 1: speak about being an African American woman, but I can't 1058 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 1: speak to what you went through and your struggles. And 1059 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,359 Speaker 1: I hope that even though we had that conversation, that 1060 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: you knew that you're not alone. 1061 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,600 Speaker 2: And I hope it empowers you to represent yeah. 1062 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:13,919 Speaker 5: And I hope that I wish I heard this when 1063 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 5: I was struggling with the racial thing when I was 1064 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,760 Speaker 5: a kid, because there is people like me out there 1065 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,240 Speaker 5: who are going through the same thing. And it sucks 1066 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,919 Speaker 5: when you feel so isolated and alone in the sea 1067 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 5: of people, because no one else is going to be 1068 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 5: able to understand unless they have experienced what you and 1069 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 5: I have experienced. 1070 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 2: Right, But you're not alone. I know. I know that. 1071 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:36,919 Speaker 2: I love that. 1072 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: I feel like what you said was so powerful, Like 1073 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: you know, we don't know. 1074 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 2: Who the next Bacheorette's going to be. If you were asked, 1075 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 2: would you do it? 1076 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 5: I mean, of course I would love the opportunity to 1077 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 5: because I think people just see this one side of 1078 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 5: me and they they judged me on one minute of 1079 00:43:58,080 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 5: time that they think is defining who I am as 1080 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,840 Speaker 5: a person. But did they forget like throughout the entire season, 1081 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 5: like I was never that. 1082 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not a villain. I'm not a mean person. 1083 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 2: I have a lot of. 1084 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 5: Composure to me and I have a lot of stories 1085 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 5: to tell, and I think that I would love the 1086 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 5: opportunity to become bachelorette. Well, I would love for the 1087 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 5: opportunity for you to redeem yourself. 1088 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: So whether it's Bacherette Paradise, Summer Games, redemption for Tammy. 1089 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, the redemption not even like where I have to 1090 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 5: like change who I am, but like the fact that 1091 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 5: people need to see the full three sixty of me 1092 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,800 Speaker 5: before they can chest judgment. 1093 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: You know, honestly they can on other shows. So right, Well, 1094 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,280 Speaker 1: I'm happy that you were able to speak to us today. 1095 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, and they for me to hear your voice 1096 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: and see another side of you. I know I have 1097 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,080 Speaker 1: on Women Tell Law and then just sitting here with 1098 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: you today. So thank you. 1099 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 5: Thank you for bringing the awareness because it was it 1100 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:45,640 Speaker 5: was really bad. 1101 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 2: It was, it truly was. Thank you for being so vulnerable. 1102 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, thank you. 1103 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: Last, but not least, we have Victoria Pee on Bachelor Happy. 1104 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,919 Speaker 2: Hour in the house. In the house, how are you doing? 1105 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: You survived? Women Tell All. You see here's the thing. 1106 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:03,640 Speaker 1: You were quiet. 1107 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:04,239 Speaker 2: At first, I. 1108 00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:05,920 Speaker 1: Thought, you know, we're not really hearing a lot from 1109 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: Victoria p. And then Chris said, alayah and Victoria pe 1110 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: and then it was bam, it was all on you. 1111 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 2: So how do you feel? Bam? 1112 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 14: You know, I don't like conflict and I don't like confrontation, 1113 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 14: but I'm learning to work through it and learning to 1114 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 14: grow through it and to confront it. Had on and 1115 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 14: I tried my best to do about tonight, and I 1116 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,440 Speaker 14: think that in that I was, you know, I did 1117 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 14: better at communicating than what I did before, and that 1118 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 14: I uh, I think I squashed a little bit of it. 1119 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1120 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,960 Speaker 1: So anyway, like like Savannah had it in for you, 1121 00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 1: and I talked to Aliyah and Aliah said, y'all have 1122 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: mutual respect for each other and It's kind of like 1123 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,280 Speaker 1: a very mature situation, which I think is great because 1124 00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: we don't always see that, or we didn't see that 1125 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,920 Speaker 1: this season in viewers. So it's nice to hear that 1126 00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: you guys have reconciled and you're letting bygones be bygones. 1127 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 1: Savannah still has an. 1128 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 10: End for you, but not everyone. 1129 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 1: Not everyone likes you, right, But she said you talk 1130 00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: in circles, So I feel like I want to give 1131 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 1: you the opportunity to explain You're like, just like, be 1132 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 1: very matter of fact about what it is. 1133 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:04,839 Speaker 2: So I'm going to ask you very direct questions. 1134 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 1: Go ahead, I'm ready for because I'm I'm ready for it. 1135 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,960 Speaker 1: Did you guys know each other more than three hours? 1136 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 8: Yes? 1137 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 2: Did you have fun in Vegas? 1138 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:12,479 Speaker 8: I had fun in Vegas. 1139 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 2: Where'd you stay? 1140 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 10: I stayed at Shit. 1141 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:15,879 Speaker 2: Where do we stay? 1142 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 10: Treasure Island? 1143 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,160 Speaker 2: Right, Treasure Island. Did you room together? 1144 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 8: No? Okay? 1145 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,720 Speaker 2: Two separate rooms? Is there picture evidence? There's picture evidence? 1146 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:25,880 Speaker 8: Okay? Yeah? 1147 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 5: No. 1148 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 14: Shame and the fact that I knew her I had 1149 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,839 Speaker 14: verbalized out to hear that we knew one another. I 1150 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 14: as far as being friends, I couldn't tell you her 1151 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 14: favorite color, what her. 1152 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 2: Mom's name is Yeah, you were car. 1153 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 10: She drives where she went to school, what she does 1154 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 10: for a living. 1155 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 14: I mean, honestly, I know we weren't close. 1156 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 2: This is what I'll equate it to. 1157 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 9: You. 1158 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: Guys are all close right now, but a year from now, 1159 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,120 Speaker 1: you're not going to be the same. Yeah it's sad, 1160 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: but we won't be on the same level that you 1161 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: were before. So it's like we all went through this 1162 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: experience like a pageant. I know her, I've been around her, 1163 00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 1: but I'm not close with her. 1164 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,400 Speaker 2: She's not one of my closest friends. See how we 1165 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,319 Speaker 2: cleared that up and just like that, Yeah, well what's 1166 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 2: next for you? What are you doing right now? 1167 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 3: So? 1168 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 14: I work full time as a nurse. I've been a 1169 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,360 Speaker 14: nurse for the last four and a half five years, 1170 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 14: so still doing that. I don't think that reality TV, 1171 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 14: but I have a future of Matt. 1172 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 10: I can't see myself. I can't see myself doing that in. 1173 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:18,240 Speaker 14: The future, but I hope that that love is somewhere 1174 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:18,720 Speaker 14: in between. 1175 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,160 Speaker 1: Well, that is the most honest thing I think that 1176 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: anybody has said. So thank you for that on this podcast, 1177 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,759 Speaker 1: because you don't see people come from the show and 1178 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: say you know what, I don't think it's there's a 1179 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,560 Speaker 1: future in it for me. So you wouldn't do Paradise, 1180 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:30,879 Speaker 1: you wouldn't. 1181 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:31,240 Speaker 2: Do Summer Games. 1182 00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 10: I'm just saying that I wouldn't. 1183 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 14: So my mom nominde me for the Bachelor in the 1184 00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 14: first place, So I'm like, hey mom, Yeah, hey mom. 1185 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:38,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1186 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 14: Anyway, but yeah, so Sindy nominated me, and this is 1187 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 14: just this' has been a great experience in learning experience. 1188 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,919 Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't I don't know it's next. 1189 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 14: But I will say I'm not I don't know it's next, 1190 00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:53,719 Speaker 14: but I don't know if I will do. 1191 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: You got to think about it. You'll think about about it. 1192 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: You're going to weigh out your options. Do you have 1193 00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: any regrets then from the season, You. 1194 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,120 Speaker 14: Know, I I wish that and there were times that 1195 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,320 Speaker 14: I wish I'd been more direct like you and I 1196 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 14: I wish I had been better at communicating. But I'm 1197 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 14: learning how to communicate better. I am an empathetic person, 1198 00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 14: and I think it's part of my nature and who 1199 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 14: I am as a human being, and it's part of 1200 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,799 Speaker 14: my profession obviously, and just the way that I grew 1201 00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 14: up to just kind of like brush it off and 1202 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 14: give someone kind to seeing grace. 1203 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 10: And kind of take a hit in that. 1204 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,800 Speaker 14: And I'm learning that it's okay to stand up for 1205 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,480 Speaker 14: myself and it's okay to have healthy confrontation and conflict 1206 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 14: and to work through that. 1207 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 1: And I think it's okay to say I made a mistake. 1208 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I own it. 1209 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,479 Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't handle it the best. Actually can say 1210 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: that coming from this opportunity. 1211 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I did it. 1212 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 14: There were many things that I'm like, oh man, I 1213 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 14: really could have handled that different. And I've beat myself 1214 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 14: up about it, and I've gotten hate mail because of it, 1215 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 14: and I've really but it's been challenging for me, but 1216 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 14: it's also been a growing experience and. 1217 00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 10: A learning experience through that. I know a lay before this. 1218 00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:00,080 Speaker 14: Yeah, I never denied that where we friends, know, I 1219 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 14: say we were more acquaintances, but I should have clarified 1220 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 14: more and I should have communicated more with her. 1221 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: In your defense, Peter doesn't always ask the most direct questions. 1222 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:11,200 Speaker 2: So that's why I was like, you know what, We're 1223 00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,359 Speaker 2: just gonna go right to it while we got half 1224 00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 2: the way. 1225 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 1: So and so like everybody knows that there's no more 1226 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 1: questions about it, it is what it is. They moved on, 1227 00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 1: so you guys need to move on as. 1228 00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 14: Well, and absolutely, and I think I will say everyone 1229 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 14: move on, and I hope that everyone treats Aliah with 1230 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 14: kindness and respect and love and generosity regardless. There's no 1231 00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,520 Speaker 14: side to choose as far as I'm concerned, and I. 1232 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:33,279 Speaker 2: Think we're there. 1233 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:35,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know what's been great, Like women women 1234 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,760 Speaker 1: till all started off real high, like on a level 1235 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 1: three hundred and five, and things just. 1236 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,840 Speaker 2: Kind of like died down a bit, and then you saw. 1237 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 1: That there was thise camaraderie between you guys, and I 1238 00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 1: think that that was special because as a viewer, we 1239 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 1: saw none of that, and so I think you guys 1240 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 1: all was just like. 1241 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 2: You know what, Hindsight's twenty twenty. 1242 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 1: We made some mistakes, but we all went through a 1243 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: shared experience, and you're going to hold on to that. 1244 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,960 Speaker 14: We are all different and we all have our differences, 1245 00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 14: but we can all see it immunity and hand in 1246 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:13,800 Speaker 14: hand say that we are that we stand together against 1247 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 14: tate and against a better future and can. 1248 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 10: Buy gunsiban guns. 1249 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,959 Speaker 2: You know, I don't even want to ask you another question. 1250 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 1: That was beautiful the way you just ended that I 1251 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: was going to ask you about the season, but it's like, 1252 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,080 Speaker 1: you know what, Yeah, Like, let's just be better. 1253 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 14: Yeah, Cush think that we can always see better and 1254 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 14: there's always room for growth. And like I said, this 1255 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 14: has challenged me to be better. And I don't know 1256 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 14: it's ahead, but I know that this has challenged me 1257 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:38,759 Speaker 14: to be a better Victoria Pee, and I'm going to 1258 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 14: be a better human being, a better spouse, and a 1259 00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,840 Speaker 14: better friend and uh because of all this. 1260 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: So thank you for sharing that, and thank you for 1261 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 1: coming on the podcast. 1262 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 10: Thank you. 1263 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 1: Now, I lie to you guys, and I don't do 1264 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 1: this often, but when I do, it's for a good reason. 1265 00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,879 Speaker 1: I told you my final guest was Victoria, but it's 1266 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: actually mister Webber Peter. 1267 00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 2: Welcome again. 1268 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 1: So that's how happy are You're becoming a regular? 1269 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,120 Speaker 8: Yeah, what's going on here? Thanks for having me. 1270 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 2: Can we have an honest talk? 1271 00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 8: I would love that. 1272 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,359 Speaker 1: I'm upset why because I was rooting for you. 1273 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,839 Speaker 2: We were all rooting for you. But this is why. 1274 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,919 Speaker 1: I remember when we talked and I was like, man, Peter, 1275 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 1: out of anybody, who's who since I've been watching, I 1276 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,959 Speaker 1: want you to find your happiness and. 1277 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:22,720 Speaker 2: To find love. 1278 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 1: And this season has been frustrating for me to watch, 1279 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: so I can only imagine what it was like for 1280 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 1: you to be in it, and I guess I just 1281 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 1: like am frustrated. I'm fortuted for you. That's why I'm 1282 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: saying I'm upset because you know, at this point, I 1283 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,240 Speaker 1: have no idea what decision that you made. And Chris 1284 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 1: Tonight said, you don't even know what the decision is, 1285 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 1: which I as a lawyer and being logical, I'm like, okay, 1286 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: so that means maybe this is this, this is this, 1287 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,359 Speaker 1: and we can't figure it out. But watching this last 1288 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: episode and you being so honest and forthcoming about how 1289 00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,960 Speaker 1: you feel about who you are, it was very frustrating 1290 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 1: for me to watch you put all yourself out there 1291 00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,880 Speaker 1: and then to get this tidbit of information at the 1292 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,000 Speaker 1: very end, and I'm very curious as to how you 1293 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:17,120 Speaker 1: felt about it. Are you talking about with Victoria, talking 1294 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 1: about with Madison? 1295 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:20,360 Speaker 8: Oh? 1296 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 1: Okay, so maybe I should like, I guess I'm more 1297 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,840 Speaker 1: so saying you have been very upfront and honest about 1298 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,879 Speaker 1: like what you're going through and how you feel, maybe 1299 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: even to a fault. But that's like the beauty of you. 1300 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,719 Speaker 1: It's a gift and a curse. And for you to 1301 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 1: get this information at the very end, which I feel 1302 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: like doesn't allow you to fully have the right mindset 1303 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:46,800 Speaker 1: as you're going into week nine, which is insanely important, 1304 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,239 Speaker 1: and just to set the stage for everybody. Week nine 1305 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,319 Speaker 1: is important. Not because it's fantasy sweet week, and that's 1306 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 1: what it's titled, entitled titled, it's that it's the time 1307 00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: that you get off camera to really get to know 1308 00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:03,879 Speaker 1: somebody with no one else around. It is precious, precious time, 1309 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 1: and your mind is all over the place for multiple reasons, 1310 00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:09,399 Speaker 1: and you're trying to be sensitive to how everyone else 1311 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 1: is feeling. But at the same time, you need to 1312 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 1: kind of know everything, and you didn't until the very 1313 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:19,360 Speaker 1: last second. So I'm really curious to know how you 1314 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: felt in that moment when you got that information that 1315 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,359 Speaker 1: maybe you could have gotten I don't know week one. 1316 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:27,840 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, I don't know realistically if that's a 1317 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,560 Speaker 12: week one type of conversation, but yes, in a perfect world, 1318 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 12: I definitely would have. I wish I could have known that, 1319 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 12: Siner on no doubt, because that made that week the 1320 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 12: hardest week in my life and. 1321 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,319 Speaker 8: That was not easy at all. But I will say, like. 1322 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,919 Speaker 12: I I told all of the women from the very 1323 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,359 Speaker 12: first night to I remember that the toast, I said, 1324 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,680 Speaker 12: be real with me, share whatever is on your heart. 1325 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 12: I don't care if you think I'm gonna like it 1326 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 12: or not. Just I need to know that and you 1327 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 12: need to be able to express that to me. That's 1328 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,400 Speaker 12: all that Madison was doing in that moment. Yes, I 1329 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,360 Speaker 12: would have loved for her to have done it way sooner. 1330 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 12: I would have, but I can't fault her, and if 1331 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 12: I do, I'm only a hypocrite of her sharing what 1332 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 12: was on her heart, and she did it in the 1333 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 12: most There was no easy way for her to do that. Man, 1334 00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 12: I remember that conversation like it was yesterday. It was 1335 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,840 Speaker 12: tough for her and she was struggling, and she didn't 1336 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,520 Speaker 12: want it to come off like she was telling me 1337 00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,959 Speaker 12: what I had to do. But she was simply telling 1338 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,760 Speaker 12: me where would put her if I made certain decisions, 1339 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,240 Speaker 12: and that I have to respect. 1340 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 8: And I can't follow her for. 1341 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 1: You talked about her when she shared that information with 1342 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 1: you about the ultimatum. I don't want to say ultimatum, 1343 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,160 Speaker 1: but you didn't feel like she was giving you an ultimatum. 1344 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,600 Speaker 1: But she was sharing what was on her heart in 1345 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,880 Speaker 1: that moment in the hangar when it was down to 1346 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,400 Speaker 1: the final three. Do you ask yourself the question, why 1347 00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,320 Speaker 1: didn't she also share that she was saving herself for 1348 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,360 Speaker 1: marriage in that moment? 1349 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,320 Speaker 8: Yeah? Yeah, I don't know why she didn't decide to 1350 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:54,480 Speaker 8: share that with me. I truly do. 1351 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,719 Speaker 12: Whether it's right or not, I feel like maybe that 1352 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 12: would have that would have meant. 1353 00:54:59,000 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 8: Something to me. 1354 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 1: I actually agree with you that information. I like when 1355 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,719 Speaker 1: we talk about it on the podcast. I make the 1356 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,560 Speaker 1: argument that I think that that information was vital to 1357 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 1: you to know what decisions you were going to make 1358 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,120 Speaker 1: going into that week. 1359 00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:13,239 Speaker 8: Yeah, you're right. 1360 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,719 Speaker 12: And I obviously her and I we have different viewpoints 1361 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,400 Speaker 12: on that, and that's fine, you know, we don't have 1362 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 12: to be like in every single regard. But yeah, I 1363 00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,919 Speaker 12: wish she would have expressed that to me there, and 1364 00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 12: I think I would have had a little bit more 1365 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:26,319 Speaker 12: gravity there. 1366 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,880 Speaker 8: And but what are you gonna do? 1367 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 1: She didn't so tell me audience, Well, Peter, now, I 1368 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,239 Speaker 1: have personally asked to be placed next to Barb at 1369 00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:41,359 Speaker 1: the finale. I thought she was going to be here 1370 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 1: at Women tell all she was not. 1371 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 12: Yeah, a couple of honeybearers back in the day. 1372 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what happens? Am I going to be mad? 1373 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm I'm upset because I want whatever happens. I'm like passionate, 1374 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: So it's not an upset like I'm angry. 1375 00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 2: I like you, you know, and I. 1376 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:00,960 Speaker 1: Wanted to work for you and I want you to 1377 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,719 Speaker 1: be I mean, you can be happy even if you 1378 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 1: choose yourself at the end of this. But I just 1379 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 1: like when I see what's happening towards the end, I 1380 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:12,239 Speaker 1: entitled our He's thing entitled I titled our podcast for 1381 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 1: last week? Can Peter Ketch a break? It was the subtitle, 1382 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,279 Speaker 1: can we just give him one week? 1383 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 12: All the answer is no answers Peter's and I say, 1384 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:22,319 Speaker 12: I mean, I've said it a million times. 1385 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 8: Things happen till the last second, and. 1386 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:25,759 Speaker 2: Apparently they still are. 1387 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 8: We'll see about that. But yeah, it was just very 1388 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 8: difficult for me in a lot of ways. 1389 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,879 Speaker 12: And yeah, the whole stuff with the fantasy suitet week, 1390 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,640 Speaker 12: and that's just that set the tone for a lot 1391 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 12: of stuff. 1392 00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 8: It was. It was super tough. 1393 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:39,080 Speaker 12: But I really can't say, like right now, where I'm 1394 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 12: at I am happy and I am in a good spot. 1395 00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,120 Speaker 1: And so I'm not going to be mad at the finale? 1396 00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:43,880 Speaker 1: Is that what you're telling me? 1397 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,880 Speaker 2: Am I going to be mad at this point? 1398 00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 12: Everyone has so many opinions and you can't please everyone, 1399 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:48,920 Speaker 12: is what I'm learning. 1400 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 8: So I don't know. 1401 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,719 Speaker 2: But we're talking about me. We're worried about me. 1402 00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,359 Speaker 8: Okay, it exists here, big sis. 1403 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 9: You know. 1404 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:56,520 Speaker 8: I think I can. 1405 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,920 Speaker 12: I can sense you know, some overprotective tendencies here, which 1406 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,319 Speaker 12: I appreciate, and that so thank you because I know 1407 00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:04,520 Speaker 12: you want the best for me, and I'm in a 1408 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,359 Speaker 12: good spot, so I think Okay, I think that'll be good. 1409 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 1: I can I can hold on to that. Okay, that'll 1410 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 1: get me through till the finale. Yeah, come see, you're 1411 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 1: gonna come see me though after that though. 1412 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:15,520 Speaker 8: Okay, well, and you're not. 1413 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,600 Speaker 12: What I will say is you're not going to like 1414 00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 12: you're not getting mad about me not falling my heart 1415 00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:20,600 Speaker 12: and doing what I needed to do. 1416 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,040 Speaker 1: For sure, No, I won't. I won't be mad at 1417 00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 1: you for following your heart. But well, yeah, well we'll 1418 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:27,120 Speaker 1: put a pin in it there now. What I will 1419 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,560 Speaker 1: say about tonight though, what was really refreshing. 1420 00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:33,360 Speaker 2: Was how nice the women wore. But were you shocked? 1421 00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 8: Yes? 1422 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:38,080 Speaker 12: I was, why because I mean I had never been 1423 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 12: in a room with that many x's until then I 1424 00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 12: walk out, and I had a lot of nerves coming 1425 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,760 Speaker 12: into I just didn't know how they'd kind of received me. 1426 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 12: You know, it's always weird when you end a relationship 1427 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,080 Speaker 12: and that's the first time you see them. But no, 1428 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,240 Speaker 12: I felt the love like crazy from them and just 1429 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 12: really sweet, kind words of encouragement. That was really special 1430 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 12: and beautiful to me. And I thought that was awesome. 1431 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 1: I'll say it was awesome too because the women we 1432 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,360 Speaker 1: just know did really get along and there seemed to 1433 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 1: be so much cattiness. 1434 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,320 Speaker 2: But they all could agree you were. 1435 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,960 Speaker 1: The common denominator of what was good about the season 1436 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 1: for them, So I thought that that was special. Like 1437 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,320 Speaker 1: people can call you indecisive, I've said it myself, but 1438 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,439 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, whatever you did with them, 1439 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 1: because of the way they reacted tonight, you did it right. 1440 00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 12: Yeah, and that was Yeah, that means a lot. Those 1441 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,200 Speaker 12: words mean a lot. I truly try my best to 1442 00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:27,000 Speaker 12: really as much as I could give each relationship my 1443 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 12: full attention. When I was with those women, and you know, 1444 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 12: seeing that they kind of they saw that as well 1445 00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,880 Speaker 12: and expressed that to me, that meant a lot, and 1446 00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:35,520 Speaker 12: I could feel good about that. 1447 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 1: Well, I really want to keep asking you questions, but 1448 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,520 Speaker 1: you're not giving me what I want because I want 1449 00:58:40,560 --> 00:58:41,640 Speaker 1: you to tell me how it is. 1450 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,520 Speaker 2: That all you want, And I just really thought we 1451 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,120 Speaker 2: were on a different level. Peter. You know, I've been 1452 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:46,800 Speaker 2: invited to come over to the family dinner. 1453 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 8: I run a podcast. I don't ask me if we're 1454 00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 8: on a podcast. 1455 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,320 Speaker 2: No, nobody's here. What are you talking about? 1456 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 1: No, but you do seem happy, and I you know, 1457 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 1: I always wish the best for you, and I guess 1458 00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 1: I'll just have to wait till next week like everybody else. 1459 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,120 Speaker 12: It's okay, it's this truly might be the first kind 1460 00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 12: of unspoiled in a while, so you know what it 1461 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:08,400 Speaker 12: already is. Well, I hope, I hope they enjoy it, 1462 00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:10,800 Speaker 12: and I'm sure there'll be no shortage of opinions, just 1463 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:12,480 Speaker 12: like the rest of this journey. But it's something that 1464 00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,320 Speaker 12: I'll always remember and very grateful for. 1465 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:15,920 Speaker 1: Well, at the end of the day, I know you 1466 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,960 Speaker 1: will handle it well like you always do. 1467 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,400 Speaker 8: Thank you. All right, big thanks for being here. 1468 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:24,840 Speaker 1: Thank you well, you guys, that was women. Tell all, 1469 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,320 Speaker 1: we brought you some great guests, more guests than I 1470 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:28,880 Speaker 1: even thought that we're going to come through here, and 1471 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,320 Speaker 1: people were actually excited. I guess they haven't been listening 1472 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 1: to the podcast. 1473 00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,479 Speaker 2: No, but everything was great. It was all love. 1474 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 1: I really enjoyed having great conversation with the women. I 1475 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 1: loved getting some insight from Peter. And I mean, next week, 1476 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:46,360 Speaker 1: you guys, is the finale. I have no idea what's 1477 00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,800 Speaker 1: going to happen. I know it's going to be good. 1478 00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 1: I know you better tune in and come back here. 1479 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 1: I have no idea who's going to be sitting in 1480 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,440 Speaker 1: the hot seat, but that's because we don't know how 1481 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,160 Speaker 1: it ends. So stay tuned. Thank you for joining, and 1482 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 1: I feel like I should say you're well welcome, and 1483 01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,240 Speaker 1: don't forget. You can subscribe to our podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 1484 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,200 Speaker 1: or wherever you're listening to this right now.