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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, It's me Jason McIntyre Straight Fire for Thursday,

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Speaker 1: January four. Then well, well, well it finally went down.

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Speaker 1: James Harden traded on Wednesday. He's going to the Brooklyn

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Speaker 1: Nets to join forces with Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving.

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Speaker 1: So much to sift through on the trade. But before

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Speaker 1: I mentioned earlier this week. It was coming. Uh, there's

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Speaker 1: the NBA, and then Lebron started commenting on his tweets.

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Speaker 1: I was like, who is this guy? So I opened

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Speaker 1: up a dialogue and I said, let's get you on

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Speaker 1: the podcast. He agreed. Um, he goes by the name Cuffs,

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Speaker 1: the legend. He's not anonymous. UM, I know who he is.

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Speaker 1: I you know, he doesn't want to say his name.

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Speaker 1: But I think you're gonna like this interview. Um, it's

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Speaker 1: heavily NBA um skewed. And obviously we'll get to the

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Speaker 1: cuffs the legend coming right up. Before we get to that,

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Speaker 1: I have to touch on the James Harden trade. Biggest

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Speaker 1: story in sports, you know, Wednesday. It might be the

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Speaker 1: biggest story Thursday, maybe Friday, because we don't know what

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Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving is gonna do. But let me just start

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Speaker 1: with the trade. On the surface, I don't actually love

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Speaker 1: it for the Brooklyn Nets. I think the Indiana Pacers

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Speaker 1: are a big winner in this. I know that's shocking

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Speaker 1: deal and get Carriss Lavert for Victor Oladipot, Carriss LeVert

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Speaker 1: plus t. J. Warren plus Sabonis plus Brogden plus Miles Turner,

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Speaker 1: I think the Pacers are a pretty darn good team.

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Speaker 1: I think the Indiana Pacers probably now firmly in the

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Speaker 1: top six in the East, if not top five. That's

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Speaker 1: a very good team. I'm impressed that the Pacers were

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Speaker 1: able to come out of this carnage. I think bigger

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Speaker 1: winners in the Brooklyn Nets. And I'll get to y

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Speaker 1: in a second. Um, let's go through fully the trade.

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Speaker 1: The Pacers only get Caris LeVert and the second round pick.

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Speaker 1: The Cavaliers get Jarrett Allen. They're big winners in this

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Speaker 1: and Torrian Prince, who you know as a solid role player.

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Speaker 1: But Jared Allen was the best defensive player on the

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets, and there is no way around it. The

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn Nets now at center have DeAndre Allen, Sorry, DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Jordan's his backup. Maybe Jeff Green, the small forward who

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Speaker 1: played at Georgetown like fifteen years ago and has played

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Speaker 1: some small forward and power forward. And folks, uh, you're

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Speaker 1: positionless NBA and centers don't really matter, but we saw

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Speaker 1: what Nicola Yoki did to the l A clipper Is

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs last year, and you need a capable

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Speaker 1: a joke. I don't know, they're probably gonna go out.

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Speaker 1: My guess is okay, because we've seen that Jared Allen's

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Speaker 1: Jared Allen will be there. Guy, Jared Allen's a great

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Speaker 1: defensive shot blocker. Well skinny, but he's a really good

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Speaker 1: JaVale McGee. He will probably end up as a backup

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Speaker 1: I don't think they won this trade, folks. They end

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Speaker 1: up with Dante ex Him, who's always hurt and a

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Speaker 1: Four first round picks and four pick swaps. Now the

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Speaker 1: He said. Man. Kevin Durant, who I brought here, brings

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Speaker 1: Kyrie's team too, now Kevin Durant's team. Kyrie's on a sabbatical.

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Speaker 1: We don't know when he's coming back. This move is

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Speaker 1: but you know two things that jump out about Curry.

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00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 1: He's below the room guy in a league that loves athleticism.

423
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 1: And you know, listen, he's a light skinned guy. And

424
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,280
Speaker 1: Chris Bruce, Chris Bruce hard and I have joked about

425
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 1: this a lot. Uh, you know he's the light skinned

426
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 1: guys don't get the respect I need you to address. Listen, man,

427
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: it's a real thing. Trust me. I deal with it

428
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 1: on a daily basis when you're a light skinning. It's

429
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: just something about it, like people look at your your

430
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 1: skin complacent and say, yeah, he's soft. You know he's

431
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 1: soft for he's not tough. Like you heard Kyle Kuzman.

432
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 1: I think Kyl Kuzman head a situation. Uh. I think

433
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 1: that No, no, no, not my coups. It was when

434
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: Jordan Clarkson was with Kobe, when Kobe was on the

435
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 1: Lakers with Clarkson, and I think Clarkson did like a

436
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: layup or he went up for dunk and Kobe was

437
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 1: like there was a light skin move. I don't know

438
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 1: if you'll remember that. But like you always get you

439
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: always get ridicule for being a light skin but still

440
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 1: a killer man like me and his brother are actually cool.

441
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 1: Like I had self on my podcast like a long

442
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: time ago when I had a podcast, like five or

443
00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:30,120
Speaker 1: six years ago. But self is uh self is real,

444
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: down to earth. Like I asked the question on Twitter,

445
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: I said, I actually think the NBA should do a

446
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 1: three point contest every year and it should be Steph Curry,

447
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: Self Curry, and Dale Curry. Like everybody would watch it.

448
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,199
Speaker 1: Everybody would watch that man. Do you think some of

449
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 1: this athleticism Curry being below the rim is maybe why

450
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,679
Speaker 1: Westbrook really doesn't like him because their beef looks like

451
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 1: it's very obvious. Oh, I think it's personal. I mean

452
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 1: I think it's personal, like from a from a competition

453
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: and point and being a competitor like I think Russ.

454
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 1: I don't think Russell Westbrook likes too many people on

455
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 1: this earth anyway. Like I'm a fan of Russ. But

456
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: it's just a demeanor. It's just like he's a dog man.

457
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: And a lot of guys look at Curry like damn

458
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 1: this guy, Like you said, he's six one. I'm sorry,

459
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 1: he's about six two six three, But how how the

460
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: hell is he pulling this stuff off? How is he

461
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 1: pulling what? What about the fans angle? Like? How much

462
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 1: does that bother the players? Uh? I know it's gotten

463
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,440
Speaker 1: to Paul George. I've heard that that he can't take

464
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 1: the heat on social media and he doesn't like some

465
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: of that and curry all he gets his universal love,

466
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: although the pushback is starting this year. Does social media

467
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 1: you think impact these guys a lot? Listen to all

468
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: the fans listening. I know a lot of fans don't

469
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: realize this, but those guys in the NBA, they hear everything. Brn,

470
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 1: they hear everything, man like they some guys just you know,

471
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: they hear things that come to them. But you have

472
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,919
Speaker 1: those guys that search their name on Twitter. You know,

473
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 1: they look to see what everybody's saying about them. And

474
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: I think that could be a good a bad thing.

475
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: Like it could be a good thing if that motivates you,

476
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: if you're one of those guys that you need a

477
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: little bit of motivation or you need a little bit

478
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 1: of both and board material. But some guys are not

479
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: like that. Some guys get criticized, like Paul George and

480
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: you know he hit the side of the backboard and

481
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: the biggest moments of the playoffs, so you like, you

482
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: never know how that's gonna go. Man, Like everybody doesn't

483
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: have that same ticker. Like some athletes can have all

484
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: the all the athleticism in the world, they can jump

485
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: out of the gym, all the physical tools, all the

486
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: all the physical traits, but they don't have that ticker.

487
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: And I think some guys don't don't have their heart

488
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: the uh really go to that Steph Curry level. That's

489
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: why I think they're envious and stiff. The Steph got hard. Bro,

490
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: you gotta have heart to do to some of the

491
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: stuff he do. You gotta have heart to take those shots. Yeah,

492
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 1: he's he's jacking from deep. Let me ask about a

493
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 1: guy who, um right now is in the news for

494
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: basically being aloof and um you could call him a jackass,

495
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, And you had one of the funniest things

496
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: ever when you start to call like him Kanye Irving,

497
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: and I think that's gonna catch on him. I don't

498
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 1: want to back up. What have you heard about Kyrie

499
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: Irving trying to squash the bubble? If you remember right

500
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: before the bubble, he got on one of those calls

501
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 1: and like kind of was just popping off saying all

502
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 1: this stuff like we we shouldn't go What have you

503
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: heard about that? And where are you on? Kyrie Irving Man?

504
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: I tweeted about it yesterday, you know somewhat. Uh, I'm

505
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 1: genuinely concerned for him, Like I'm a fan. Like a

506
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: lot of people might read what I post sometimes and say,

507
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: oh course you know you're Kyrie hater, Like no, no, no, no,

508
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: like you got it all missing true, Like yeah, you gotta. Yeah.

509
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: We joke and we we we play around sometimes, but

510
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: on a serious note, like I'm genuinely concerned. Like I

511
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 1: actually talked to some of his teammates um about it,

512
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 1: Like we had a real conversation that I won't really

513
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: get into, but I'm like, yo, y'all need to check

514
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 1: on that dude, because at the end of the day,

515
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 1: he's a twenty eight year old kid. I mean, I

516
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: know he's a man, but he's still he's still got

517
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: a lot he's going through. Like mentally, you don't never

518
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: know what a guy is going through or anybody your family,

519
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: your mother, father, Like I don't know if it's depression.

520
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this is what I'm thinking, Like, I

521
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: don't know if he's going through depression. You never know.

522
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: Just because these guys have all the money in the

523
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: world don't mean they're happy. You don't mean they're happy

524
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: with everything they have going on. So I think you

525
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: really finds some demons man, And I hope, um, I

526
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,359
Speaker 1: hope some guys, some some real influential guys that he

527
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 1: had listened to the reach out to him because as

528
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: basketball fans and periods of the game, we want to

529
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: see him out there, like I want to see him,

530
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 1: you know, doing some dribble comment they like every time

531
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: he touched the ball. It's like watching a paper view,

532
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: like you don't know what he's gonna do. So it's

533
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: like I I missed that. So I just hope to

534
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: see something good come out of this. Like, um my opinion,

535
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: I think that if I was Brooklyn, I would trade

536
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: Kyrie for Harden, like right now, like I do it

537
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: right now today. But if you're Houston, you don't want

538
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: any part of that guy, right yeah, but you but look,

539
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: you gotta look at it this way. You might be

540
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: able to You might, you might, you might be able

541
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: to squeeze something monda Kyrie. But you definitely you you've

542
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: definitely lost James party like it's done. Yeah, yeah, he's gone. Yes,

543
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 1: I'll hold that off because you know we're recording this

544
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 1: Wednesday and he might get traded any minute now. But

545
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: I want to focus on Kyrie first second. Okay, you

546
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: are close with Lebron. Do you want to talk at

547
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: all about how you guys got to be good friends

548
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: or what? Do you not want to reveal that? I mean,

549
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: I can say. What I can say is Ron is

550
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: like one of the most genue with people that that uh,

551
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know that. Like they can

552
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: see his personality. They see his career as he loved basketball.

553
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,680
Speaker 1: He's having fun, like you see the shot he took

554
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: last night, Like what what what? What did he do?

555
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: But I mean Lebron is a different type of person. Um,

556
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: he's very uh he paid attention to detail, and I

557
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 1: think with me, I think he just we kind of

558
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: like mining on a lot of different topics, like not

559
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: even basketball stuff, like the basketball stuff we see, I

560
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: don't a lot of things. We have conversations here and

561
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: there about like different stuff around the league or just

562
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: you know, just our own basketball, like our kids play ball,

563
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: I selling playball. But um yeah, we we got a

564
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: lot of mutual friends and we just became friends over

565
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: the years do a lot of different mutual friends. Man.

566
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: It's just like I could really, I really consider him

567
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 1: like a good friend, Like I could pick his brain

568
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: and he actually picked my brain. Like it's it's the

569
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: most surreal thing. So let let me ask when Kyrie

570
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 1: demanded a trade, why did he want to get away

571
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 1: from Lebron? Man, I've been trying to figure that out

572
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: since Uh. I think the whole basketball world been trying

573
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 1: to figure that out for years. Jason, Like, damn, man,

574
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: you had everything set up. I mean, all you had

575
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: to do was take this magic corporate ride. I mean

576
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: you you would still be in the finals every year.

577
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: If you two guys were still in Cleveland right now,

578
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: you would still be in the finals because they would

579
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: have put a team around y'all that you know, nobody's

580
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: gonna stop y'all. Um, I don't know, man, I think

581
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: Kyrie had rabbit ears, honestly, Like he had a lot

582
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: of people around him that was saying different things. And

583
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: also I think like people by people, you mean his girlfriend, right,

584
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm just saying I just I just

585
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: I've heard things things, and I just feel like he

586
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: was just unhappy. I think it's you never know what

587
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: guy's going through, Like you gotta look at it. Everybody

588
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: is not meant to be the second Will or the

589
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: third Will, Kevin Love, Chris Boss, d Way, different guys

590
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: sacrifice with Lebron, but they have to understand going into it,

591
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: you're not playing with a regular basketball player. We're not

592
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: even talking about we're not even talking about off the

593
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: court stuff, like the off the court stuff, a whole

594
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: different stratosphere as far as like everything he's doing outside

595
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: of basketball, So the spotlight is always gonna be on

596
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: him no matter what happens. So like, you have to

597
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: be comfortable in your own skin, and I feel like

598
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: Kyrie may Or he may not have been totally comfortable

599
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: in his own skin as somebody else would, like Anthony Davis.

600
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: As you can watch um the Lakers. Now you see

601
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: how comfortable Anthony Davis and Lebron are as teammates. Like

602
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: they get into it. They you know, they they hold

603
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: each other accountable. But it's just like a it's a

604
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: beautiful chemistreet to watch. So I've compared Odell Beckham when

605
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: he made the catch against the Cowboys. You know, he

606
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 1: became like a global star, like everybody knew who he was.

607
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: He's on TV, everything, the endorsements. When Kyrie hit the

608
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: shot against the Warriors, you know, that was a highlight

609
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: of his career. This guy who played like seven games

610
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: at Duke. He didn't win Jack Squat when he was

611
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: in the NBA with the dumpster fire calves and then

612
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: Lebron shows up and Kyrie hits the shot, and then

613
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: Uncle Drew and all this stuff. He hasn't been the

614
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: same person. It feels like since that shot against the Warriors. No,

615
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: it's it's it's being like a it's being like a

616
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: real Uh. He's been like a malaise. It's been like

617
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: a real like I can't even explain, like the Boston

618
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: the whole Boston sabbatical, like everything. It's like, man, what

619
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: is wrong? Like if I had to ask him one question,

620
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: I would want to know what's wrong? Like what is

621
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: what is your issue? Like you're playing with Kevin Durant

622
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: now and you're still doing the same bullshit you was

623
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: doing in Cleveland with with Lebron or in Boston with

624
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: with Brad Steve Is than Danny Aange. Like now you're

625
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: in a beautiful situation. This might be the second best

626
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: basketball situation you've been in your whole life. Like you're

627
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: playing with Kevin Durant. That's something that you, like, you

628
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: recruited him. You said, yo, come play, come play with me, bro,

629
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: and now he gets there, and it's like, man, you

630
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: left me alone, and you left me alone at the

631
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: hotel with the fact girls. Bro, Like you left me behind,

632
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you told me to

633
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: come to the party, Like you invited me to the party,

634
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: and then you left me at the party with the

635
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: chicks that nobody want to talk to. It's like, I

636
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:35,479
Speaker 1: don't understand it, all right, I want to quickly pivot

637
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: to your history of like being an NBA insider, because

638
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: I guess I'm some dude, remember right, some dude. Yeah,

639
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: who wasn't carry champion said some dude on no, no, no,

640
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 1: no, no no no no, that's my home girl, that's my

641
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: that's my that's my that's my dog. No, she didn't

642
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: say that. I'm gonna take Do you want me to

643
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: tell the story how that came about. Yeah, yeah, I'm

644
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: just minding my business. And you know, in beautiful North Carolina,

645
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: minded my business, I was. I was coaching high school

646
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: basketball that year, so I was really busy. I was

647
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: really my time was really consumed with coaching the high

648
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: school boys. Practice five days a week, you know, games

649
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: twice a week. It was crazy. So I'm minding my business.

650
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: I get a message in my notifications my phone going

651
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: haywire so everybody like, yo, man, they're talking about you

652
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: on ESPN. I'm like, oh, here we go again because

653
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: they did it a couple of years earlier. So I

654
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: get on. I checked my messages. I started seeing like

655
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: uh Instagram and on Twitter, and I think they were

656
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: on ESPN on the Jump the Jump Show, and yeah,

657
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm gonna be real petty right now. I'm

658
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: not going to say the guy's name because that's what

659
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: he did to me, like like basically he oh, it's

660
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: it's the guy, don't right, Yeah, don't say his name?

661
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: So okay, all right? Said yeah, some dude said, and

662
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: it's like, bro, you know who I am? Like you

663
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: like you've tweeted me, like you know who I am?

664
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: Out here don't act like you don't know who I am.

665
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: So I realized something in that moment where just like, yeah,

666
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: they know who I am. So they're gonna try to

667
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: marginalize me and my whole brand and what I got

668
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: going on and make it seem like I'm just some dude.

669
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: So now fast forward two years now, look who we

670
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 1: have going on. You know, it's a lot of stuff

671
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: going on. So I'm some dude. You know what I'm saying.

672
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm just some dude to everybody. Okay, I got it,

673
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: all right. I want to ask about um. Draymond Green

674
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 1: had some comments this week where he basically said, you know,

675
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: nobody in the media, these bozos on NBA Twitter, they

676
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: don't know basketball. I know you've been kind of critical

677
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: of Draymond. I'm just curious your thoughts on that and

678
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: and all that. Man. The funniest thing about Draymond is

679
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: I used to slander Draymond like NonStop, and I'm saying

680
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: the last year so like I really sat back and

681
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: I started deserving him even more, Like even honestly it

682
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: was more off the court than on the court, Like

683
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: already respected his actual game even though he kind of

684
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: like a nus is on the court and he kind

685
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: of get under your skin. But he is one of

686
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: those guys like a Joe King, Noah Where or Pat

687
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,920
Speaker 1: bed Where. You want that guy on your team, but

688
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: you hate to play against that guy. And I just

689
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: started respecting Draymond even more when I saw him on

690
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: T and T during the bubble because I realized, like

691
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: Draymond has the potential to be like the next stephen

692
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: A Smith or even bigger. Like he's a real basketball mind, bro,

693
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 1: Like I think he can coach at the next level

694
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: college or NBA, Like I can see Draymond being a

695
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: Misican State coach when is those steps down like he is.

696
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: He is really a he's really a basketball support. And

697
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: I just sit back and watch the stuff he says

698
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: on Twitter or even just on the when he was

699
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: like I said, when he was doing the TMT thing

700
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: in the bubble. But Draymond is just an interesting character.

701
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: But back to what you asked me, that situation is

702
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: kind of like a cash twenty two. Like some guys

703
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: in the media and never touched the basketball have certain opinions.

704
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: And then you've got guys that played back caball at

705
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: the high level. They got some of the worsapps, So

706
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: it's like it's always gonna be you kind of gotta

707
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: sit back and kind of analyze people for yourself. It

708
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: don't take much to realize if people know what they're

709
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: talking about when you when you watch the basketball, it

710
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: feels almost like the disrespect for Draymond is because he's

711
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 1: not a score. You know, he's not gonna post you

712
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: up and body you. He just does all the intangibles,

713
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: which on that on those loaded teams, you know, he

714
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: was perfect for Yeah, he's more like, um, he's more

715
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: like the Warriors. He's the Warriors Rick Fox and Robbert

716
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: Ory Combine. I felt like he can do all the

717
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: little intangibles. Fox was a good score. Yeah, But what

718
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: I'm saying like he does a lot of the role

719
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,319
Speaker 1: player glue gout work, like he does all the like,

720
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,479
Speaker 1: he does all the little thing to him the Warriors winning.

721
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: Like they showed his stat line yesterday and he was

722
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 1: averaging like I wanted to say it was a triple

723
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: single and like he's averaging like I think he's averaging

724
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: like five four or five or six five and five, like,

725
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: but they showed their records since he's being back and

726
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: that's how impactful Draymond is. So at the end of

727
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: the day, all jokes aside, like Draymond is one of

728
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: those guys actually talked to Draymond like two days ago. Um, oh,

729
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: is your is your future project involving Draymond Green? Yeah? Yeah,

730
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: you can. You can put it that way. But I

731
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: know somebody who's done some stuff with Draymond. He's pretty

732
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: sharp mind when it comes to the social media stuff. Yeah,

733
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: those guys, man, I feel like the NBA fans and

734
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: the basketball world needs to to see these guys in

735
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 1: a different light because they do radio show, they do podcasts.

736
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: J J. Reddick, all the Smoke, all those guys. They

737
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: do great work man, great podcast, greatful the basketball culture.

738
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 1: But I do feel like it's still a laying out

739
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: there where we can kind of get these athletes stories

740
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: out there in another way, in another and another aspect. So, um,

741
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: it's gonna be very very very spicy real soon. Man.

742
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: Uh let me ask you quickly, Brad Beale, your thoughts.

743
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: Will he get dealt? Should he demand a trade? Um?

744
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: The Westbrook situation. He is playing horribly. His player efficiency

745
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: rating is falling off a cliff. He can't shoot free throws.

746
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: It feels like it's in his head. What's the deal

747
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: with Bradley Bill? I mean with Bradley Bill, I mean, listen, man,

748
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 1: I mean, we all got a family member we really

749
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: ain't cool with. I'm willing to sacrifice one of my

750
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: family members to get Bill with the Lakers. Man, listen,

751
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: if we can get listen, man, if if the Lakers

752
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: can get a d Lebron paired with a dynamic two

753
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: guard like that, I mean they're probably win. Lebron could

754
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: being Bill Russell mode at that point. Oh, he could

755
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: be in Bill Russell, Kuzma, Horton, Tucker um th h

756
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: t is he's untouchable. He's untouchable. But I'm not trading

757
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: th h now. I don't think the Lakers have their Listen,

758
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: the number one picked, They're gonna be trading aways like

759
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: to thirty for the next five years. Right. It'd be hard.

760
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: It'd be hard. I know that. Every time I say

761
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: stuff like that, I know the gods on Twitter be like,

762
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: you know, you know those uh those NBA trade machine

763
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: type fans, and like, no, it's not gonna work. You

764
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,799
Speaker 1: don't have the money to do that. That's I know

765
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: that bro, I'm just saying, in a perfect world, I

766
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: would love to see it from a basketball standpoint. Lebron Jordan,

767
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: do you want to delve into that discussion at all,

768
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's do it. I mean, I guess

769
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: two of my two things that jump out at me

770
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: that people don't want to talk about is how bad

771
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: the NBA was in the nineties. Once Magic left and

772
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: once Bird left and Isaiah was you know, he left

773
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: retired early because the injuries, and Bird was his back

774
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: was broken. Like, look at the nineties, it was a

775
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: ton of expansion teams. There was like no European presence

776
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: really in the league. Like the league is so much

777
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: harder now than it was in the nineties. I mean,

778
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: I call the nineties expansion era. And you know, people

779
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: joke about Jordan dunking on plumbers. I mean, in reality,

780
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: it was a down league in the nineties. Yeah, well,

781
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to discuss that it was now you

782
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 1: can go back and watch the film. I had this

783
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 1: conversation with Kevin Durant the other night. I mean, I'm

784
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: I'm not name dropping, I'm just telling you the real facts.

785
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: Like I had a conversation with him and we was

786
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: talking about the space like the Space team back when

787
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: Jordan played Doug Collins era, not the Phil Jackson era,

788
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: but the Doug Colin era the first couple of years

789
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: with Jordan was scoring all those points. I'm actually amazed

790
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: to this day that he was able to pull that

791
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: off and accomplish those type of numbers with such a

792
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: condensed court like that court was so compact if you

793
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 1: go back and watch those highlights, like there was no space,

794
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 1: Like you had two big men on in the paint,

795
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: clogging up the paint, and Mike was still able to

796
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: drive to the basket and finish that the rack um.

797
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: But to answer your question, I know it's it's it's

798
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: a long conversation and it will take two hours to

799
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: really get into Lebron and Jordan. But to summarize it

800
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: the best way I can ascribe it to the fans

801
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: and listeners, I'm from North Carolina, So imagine somebody that's

802
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: from Akron, Ohio. How do you think somebody from Akron,

803
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,959
Speaker 1: Ohio feel about Lebron? Obviously, so listen, I am from

804
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: North Carolina, like I'm immersed in the basketball world, like

805
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,959
Speaker 1: this is this is the I know New York City

806
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: called itself to Mecca, but North Carolina is right there

807
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 1: in the top five, like basketball in the whole world.

808
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: So I grew up as a kid watching Michael Jordan

809
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: and Carolina. I mean I was a small kid with

810
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: who was that Carolina, but I vaguely remember it. And

811
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,760
Speaker 1: then he went off to the Bulls, and I remember

812
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: crying as a kid in when they lost to the

813
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: Fish and I cried like, I'm like, oh little you know,

814
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: he's Michael Jordan, can't make it to the championship. I'm sick.

815
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: So I got all this emotion and and when Jordan

816
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: hit the last shot against Utah eight, I was like,

817
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: that's the last time I've ever seen Mike. Mike came

818
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: back for the Wizards, and we cheered from Mike, like man,

819
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 1: the Washington which is going to the finals. That's how delusion.

820
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: So when you were a Michael Jordan's fan, you're telling yourself,

821
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like this. So I already know

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00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: as a nineteen year old, two year old kid, uh,

823
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: two year old person, Bro, that's the best basketball player

824
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,240
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. So all these new guys coming around,

825
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: you know, Tracy McGrady, the Grant Hills, all the comparisons

826
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: like that's cool, but you know those guys are not

827
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 1: on Mike level. But when I first saw Braun, I

828
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: saw Braun High School and Winston Salem at at a

829
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: tournament and I'm sorry in Greensboro and Ray Shawn Terry

830
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: was the number one high school player in North Carolina.

831
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: He went, he went, he went to go to he

832
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,919
Speaker 1: went off to go to u n C. After after

833
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: he yeah, he was a really yeah, he was a

834
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: really good. I mean I didn't gonna say really good.

835
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: In high school. He was like the Lebron James down

836
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 1: here where we was at, like we thought he was

837
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: like nobody's better than Seawan and Lebron was literally twined

838
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: with him and his team that game, and I knew.

839
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: I was like I told my best friends at bro,

840
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: that's the best basketball player I've ever seen. That was

841
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: that day, like verbat him, like when in the Greensboro

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Speaker 1: Colline him, I said, Bro, that's the best basketball player.

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Speaker 1: I said, I said. My zac words were I'm said

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Speaker 1: and done, That's gonna be the best basketball player I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen. And I'm gonna tell you why. Because his

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Speaker 1: Romeo Travis was like six seven. He was legit liked one.

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Speaker 1: You know, Drew. He could shoot, he was good, he

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Speaker 1: went off the call. He played overseas. But his overall team,

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Speaker 1: if you really look at his team in high school,

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Speaker 1: they shouldn't have been beating ok Hill bro. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like they would beating national powerhouses all around the country.

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Speaker 1: They were going to Philadelphia Strawberry Hill High School. They

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Speaker 1: was playing powerhouses with just starting five of five kids

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Speaker 1: from Akron Ron and his four homeboys, and I realized,

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Speaker 1: like he made those other guys so good, and I

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00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: was like, man, when they put him quit some pros,

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Speaker 1: it looks like we're watching right now. Uh. One last

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Speaker 1: thing on Lebron. I forgot to ask this, um, do

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Speaker 1: you think he sticks around to play with Brownie? I

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00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: can see a Keen Griffy Jr. Kenny Griffy Senior type situation.

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Speaker 1: I would love it. I probably start crying, man like Braun.

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Speaker 1: Braun posted a picture of him and Brawny, Um like

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Speaker 1: probably probably a month ago. Yeah you know, you know.

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Speaker 1: Serena posted a picture of her and her daughter, and

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Speaker 1: then Tiger Woods posted a picture of him and his son,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, we're getting old. Bro. Like

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Speaker 1: I told Braun, we're getting old, bro, Like, this's just crazy.

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Speaker 1: Just son really about the he's about to be in

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Speaker 1: the conversation to be in the NBA, Like that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: We could probably do another hour with cuffs, but uh,

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Speaker 1: I wrap it there. Uh yeah, hey, listen, man, I

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Speaker 1: like learning stuff. I like hearing about basketball. Listen. I

873
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: like to think I know a lot. But when guys

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Speaker 1: come through FS One Kenyan, Martin, Dante Jones, all these guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to be a sponge guy. That's Dante Jones. Hey, listen.

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Speaker 1: That's a good dude. Man. I really like him. Some

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Speaker 1: story story a friend of mine. I told a friend

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Speaker 1: of mine, uh, yesterday, he was like, man, I asked

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Speaker 1: him about the Pelton to bike the Pelton. I was like, man,

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00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: I need to get me a Pelton. Is it worth it?

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Speaker 1: He was like, Bro, I was on the Peloton and

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Speaker 1: you know how they have groups where you can see

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Speaker 1: the high scores and go against your friends and all that.

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Speaker 1: He said, So I seen Dante on there and he

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Speaker 1: had like fifteen thousand calories and I'm like, bro, what

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Speaker 1: are you doing? Like what what? What? What course are

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Speaker 1: you doing? When they had this medi calories burned and

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Speaker 1: he said, Yo, bro, you ain't gonna believe this. But uh,

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Speaker 1: like Tyler got me out there practicing with the team. Bro. Whoa.

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Speaker 1: But like it was cool, Like he was like wrong

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Speaker 1: by her practicing with the team. Man. So it's like

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Speaker 1: that's why he has so many calories on his on

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Speaker 1: his clubs on Uh it was it was good stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Cuff Saw has a lot of the info. You can

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Speaker 1: follow him on social media. Uh you know he gives

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Speaker 1: out only fans recommendations, only fans. MA. Man, alright, we'll

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Speaker 1: leave it there. Couffs say, thanks a lot, keep up

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Speaker 1: the good work and good luck with all your ventures

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Speaker 1: and in the coming months and years. All. I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate you having me on man. Thank you