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Speaker 1: From the RAMS facility at Cal Lutheran. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Between the Horns. I am Miles Simmons. I'm joined by

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Speaker 1: DeMarco far This is the official podcast of the Los

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Speaker 1: Angeles Rams. And yes, DeMarco, if you're watching this on

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Speaker 1: the you scared away the team or on the rams

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Speaker 1: dot com, Yes, this. We are in cal Lutheran and

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Speaker 1: we are now on set. It's actually really nice. If

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Speaker 1: you ever saw the set that we had down at Irvine,

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Speaker 1: it is the same set. They have brought it up

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Speaker 1: here up north back seventy some miles or whatever it

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Speaker 1: is so they can hear everything. Miles says, yes, and

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Speaker 1: that's why they ran. Yes, they all ran. Nowledge. It's

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Speaker 1: after practice on Thursday afternoon, and you know what, we're

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Speaker 1: going into this Chargers game with the Rams. It's the

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Speaker 1: third preseason game. I think we've seen some good things

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Speaker 1: so far from this Los Angeles team, especially on offense

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Speaker 1: last week. Be honest, do you have to concentrate before

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Speaker 1: you say Chargers? Oh? Absolutely yes. And it's funny because, okay,

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Speaker 1: so we've had we've been having this discussion like all day.

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Speaker 1: We're doing it in practice. DeMarco has said Sandy, you

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Speaker 1: had to the Chargers at least five. It's something I've

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Speaker 1: said since I was a kid, right, and now I

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Speaker 1: have to change in a short period of time. It's

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Speaker 1: going to be weird. It's hard. It's hard. So the

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Speaker 1: whole battle for LA, the Chargers and the Rams in

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Speaker 1: one stadium, both fan bases in one stadium. That's going

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Speaker 1: to be interesting. Can't wait to see that. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: just watching the maturation or the construction of Jared Goff

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Speaker 1: through the eyes of Sean McVeigh has been very interesting,

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Speaker 1: very encouraging too. We heard rumors about the reconstruction of

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins and how he became a guy that maybe

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Speaker 1: a lot of teams didn't want or a lot of

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Speaker 1: fans didn't want as their starting quarterback, to a twenty

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year type player. Jared Goff going through

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Speaker 1: the same maturation process. Keep that completion percent percentage high

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Speaker 1: mid seventies or just in the seventies, get the ball

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Speaker 1: out to your playmakers, and just have an idea of

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Speaker 1: what to do with the football on every single snap.

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Speaker 1: That would be something new for him. So just why

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Speaker 1: that go through camp. That's impressive. The way Sean mcvayh

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Speaker 1: So yeah, just a lot of good things that will ultimately,

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Speaker 1: You know, you say, the way he's running his camp,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's literally been running literally a place. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you got the fitbit like I do. Well, he sort

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Speaker 1: of inspired me. So we'll go inside baseball, I guess

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Speaker 1: a little bit. I was writing this story for McVeigh

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Speaker 1: on McVeigh for the cover of story of the Game

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Speaker 1: Day magazine that you can have one September two looking

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Speaker 1: forward to reading, Yes, September tenth against the Indianapolis Colts,

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Speaker 1: and then also next week the next week against Washington,

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Speaker 1: they'll have that. Yes, I know that's okay, But at

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Speaker 1: the same time, no, So he's supporting this black fitbit

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Speaker 1: during all his training camp, and so of course, you know,

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Speaker 1: I ask him, all right, how many steps do you

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Speaker 1: supposed to be ten thousand steps. That's impressive, right, So

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Speaker 1: he's out there, he's really running around. He's doing everything

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Speaker 1: and he gets at least twenty thousand steps a day,

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Speaker 1: probably track Wade Phillips. Yeah right, Yeah, but it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you see Sean mcday, you see

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Speaker 1: the energy. It's something that we've talked about basically since

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Speaker 1: he got here, watching OTAs and all that. He's always

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Speaker 1: And when you see Jared Goff have results like he

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Speaker 1: something that's working. Yeah, we talk about the best athletes

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Speaker 1: Lebron James Um definitely the best quarterbacks in the National

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Speaker 1: Football League. They shall remain nameless, but all they do

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Speaker 1: is talk about their sport. All they do is their sport.

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Speaker 1: That's why they're so good at what they do. So

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Speaker 1: think about a head coach being that way, that all

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Speaker 1: he does is live and breathe the game. Yes, there's

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Speaker 1: the offense than the defense. Really. Yeah, and that's that's

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Speaker 1: been a while. Yeah. Yeah, Well, do you think it's

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Speaker 1: it because of the talent that's there's the coaching staff,

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Speaker 1: I mean what yes, yes, yes, all of it. No,

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Speaker 1: your offense is completely different based on a set of

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Speaker 1: a bunch of bass plays. So to see those bass

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Speaker 1: this would be great when you have to play Arizona.

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Speaker 1: You start to do those mix and matches. So that

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Speaker 1: I would be more excited about the defense, of course,

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Speaker 1: But right now the offense has caught my eye. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the elephant in the room then before

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Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald. Maybe Godzilla. Yeah, I mean, to be

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Speaker 1: to ask you, I mean, I'm not you never know

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Speaker 1: I'm not that I could break something right now. Maybe

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Speaker 1: no doubt, absolutely no doubt. But it was always a possibility.

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Speaker 1: I remember the last game of the year, right when

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Speaker 1: probably going to get done with his deal. Let's hope

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Speaker 1: I think to this point it's been very cordial between both,

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Speaker 1: very respectful between both. But look holdouts, they ultimately end

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Speaker 1: one way. There's there's bound to be hurt feelings yea

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Speaker 1: it gets done sooner than later. But you know, part

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Speaker 1: of this job in the NFL. It's a sport. You

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Speaker 1: love it, but it's also a business. It is a business.

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Speaker 1: It's a business, and you have to take care of

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Speaker 1: business first. You know. Something that Sean McVay is continually

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Speaker 1: report September first. He has said that there is no

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Speaker 1: can keep the acrimonious negotiations to minimum. Right. You know,

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Speaker 1: you're still operating here where McVeigh continually mentions respect anytime

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Speaker 1: last week. No, what did Maha I can't really repeat

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Speaker 1: the more explosive the running back, the dumber the running back.

425
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,400
Speaker 1: He's ripping off long runs because he doesn't know the offense.

426
00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to think. He just wants to end

427
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 1: it as fast as possible. Oh my goodness. I mean,

428
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,440
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know, but that's mine. But I think,

429
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 1: you know, the more we see Tod Grilly in this offense,

430
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 1: I think the more there is to like about his

431
00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 1: chances for a really good bounce back in twenty seven.

432
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 1: Well just I mean, look, he's he's a young talent.

433
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 1: I think he's rounding into form. I think this year

434
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 1: he'll probably be playing his best football ever. Okay, yeah,

435
00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,919
Speaker 1: as a human being on this planet. I think with

436
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 1: all the reps that he has and being in the

437
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 1: NFL for this amount of time, this many reps, he's

438
00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 1: going to play his best football. Now. It's up to

439
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,719
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh in this offense to get him in areas

440
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 1: where he can be successful. And I think we're starting

441
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 1: to see someonees of that. So once he gets into

442
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 1: the open field, when they get him in loose plays,

443
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,240
Speaker 1: he's got to win. The other difference is that he

444
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: is even further now removed from that ACL surgery. Yes,

445
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 1: and it's not something that we've talked about in a

446
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,679
Speaker 1: long time, and nobody really asked him about his knee anymore,

447
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 1: and why should they because he is now, you know,

448
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 1: going into his third season, and it was going into

449
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 1: his first season when he was really coming off that injury.

450
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,320
Speaker 1: But an ACL was something that people always say takes

451
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 1: you multiple years to recover from. Hold on Jake mcquad

452
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: for Pro Bowl. See area is Marco loves to talk

453
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,880
Speaker 1: to the people as they walk by, said, hell, yeah,

454
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: the guy's making tackles and that's a Pro Bowl puncher. Sorry,

455
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 1: So he's more interesting. I know everybody is more interesting. No,

456
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,399
Speaker 1: that's not true. That's not true. Go ahead, anyway, what

457
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 1: was the question? The question was about Todd Gurley, and

458
00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:26,640
Speaker 1: we're talking about how the ACL injury. You know, yeah,

459
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,280
Speaker 1: it takes multiple years to recover from that, unless you're

460
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson. I guess we all expected, you know, I

461
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 1: guess what he came back and did what he did.

462
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,399
Speaker 1: We we all thought that we have cured the ACL problem. Um,

463
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 1: not the case. Um, it's still an iffy situation. And

464
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 1: you know, the position he plays and the way he

465
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: plays it, it's gonna take some time for him to

466
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: round in the form. It could be physically, then it

467
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 1: could be a confidence situation and coupled with a lack

468
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Speaker 1: of direction on offense. Okay, this is a different situation. Yeah, yeah,

469
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: this is a totally different situations one more year removed

470
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: from that injury. Yeah, and we talked about how much

471
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: we like what the offense is doing right now. Yes, UM,

472
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: let's talk about the line too. Sure, how much of

473
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Speaker 1: a difference have you already noticed in the limited reps

474
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Speaker 1: that the entire line has been out there? I think

475
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,959
Speaker 1: you've if you just look at left tackle alone. Yeah,

476
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 1: it's the offensive line is better. I know. Yeah, from

477
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: a technique standpoints, from an enthusiasm standpoint, Um, I like

478
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: left tackles that pace the offense like he's doing, Like

479
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 1: Andrew paced the offense like he's out there clapping guys

480
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: back into the huddle, hurry up. He's just as dialed

481
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Speaker 1: in as the quarterback. Yeah. I love that situation versus

482
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,919
Speaker 1: the opposite where you've got to drag the left tackle

483
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: back to the huddle and and relay information. Uh, it's

484
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: going the opposite way. This is the way it should go.

485
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: So uh, just watching that, I think you're better. Um, center,

486
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 1: I think you have a little more punch than you

487
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: did in seasons past, at least off the ball. We'll

488
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: see if that holds up, if he can stay healthy.

489
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 1: Now the right side is coming along. Um. They're young,

490
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: they're getting a lot of reps in preseason. They're getting

491
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: quality reps inside the meeting room. I think they're getting

492
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 1: great instructions. So they're gonna be put, much like Gurley

493
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: and Jared Goff, into situations where they have a chance

494
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: to be successful versus the opposite. Yes, love, I love

495
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,479
Speaker 1: Andrew Witworth. Just from even from a reporter standpoint, just

496
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: getting to talk to a guy like that who's played

497
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: so much football, who's been around it for so long.

498
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: He knows b big, bald and nice. Yeah, yeah, it's great.

499
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: It's great when you have guys like that. We whichould

500
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 1: have him on the podcast sometime. I'll take that down. Yeah, absolutely,

501
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: it beat. But the other thing about him is that

502
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 1: he just stabilizes everything because his technique is so good.

503
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: You know, you watch him and you watch him wash

504
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: guys out of the pocket like he was doing in

505
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Speaker 1: Oakland last week. That that really makes you feel good

506
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: about that offensive line, just from that standpoint, just racing people. Yeah,

507
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: if you're Jared Goff, you know, okay, just stay in

508
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 1: the pocket because you don't have to go anywhere because

509
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: that defender he's not coming to get you, right, and

510
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: and and the invaluable stuff that goes on on the

511
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 1: sideline when they're having protection discussions about this is what

512
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: we're seeing and this is what we're going to try

513
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: to do well. His experience is invaluable. We don't need

514
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: to do this. We can do this here or if

515
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: you want to call it this way, this is how

516
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 1: we block it. So, uh, it's it's it's a voice

517
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: of experience. Yeah, that's that's seen a lot of looks

518
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. That's been in some situations

519
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: that other guys on the line haven't been in. You, right,

520
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: So all that information we'll start to filter down. Well,

521
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Speaker 1: the other thing I want to bring up to is

522
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Speaker 1: about John Sullivan and center and the health has always

523
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 1: been a concern for him these last couple of years

524
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Speaker 1: since suffering that back injury when he was in Minnesota.

525
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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you one of the things that stood

526
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Speaker 1: out to me with him looking healthy was last week

527
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: when he had a block basically pulled out and came

528
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Speaker 1: over to the left side, hit one of the Oakland

529
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Speaker 1: linebackers and sprang really for an eight yard run. And

530
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Speaker 1: that just seeing that, I was like that, a guy

531
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: who's not healthy can't really do that. True, And so

532
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 1: that to me is really encouraging from a standpoint of Okay,

533
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: where is the health of the center. It looks like

534
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: it's in a pretty good shape. Yeah, as we hope

535
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: it stays that way all year. We just don't know that.

536
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: I think that's the only question mark there. But there's versatility,

537
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: there's Matt Burke type versatility. Yeah, which means if he's

538
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: if there's a nose tackle lined up, head up, you

539
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: feel comfortable getting movement. If he's uncovered and you need

540
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: him to pull, he can do that as well. And

541
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: he seems to be pretty smart with protection. So let's

542
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: hope he stays healthy. But you know, all that stuff

543
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: coming together as an offensive line. When you think about

544
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: the center, the things that I watch for our false starts,

545
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: pre snap penalties, especially false starts within the offensive line. Yeah,

546
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: when you have those, I point to the center, because

547
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: when the quarterback barks out the play on the huddle,

548
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: he also barks out the count. Guess who repeats it

549
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: the center, the center, So all that stuff matters. So

550
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: if you start to see a clean functioning offense, not

551
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: one that's producing or scoring, but just a clean functioning offense,

552
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: eventually that will lead to more points in first own. Yeah, okay,

553
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: so let's go to the right side then of the

554
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: offensive line up. But before we do that, actually, Saffled,

555
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: I think is just made better by having those two

556
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: veterans around him. I think I think he's played really

557
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: really well in camp, and then in these couple of

558
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: press I think how they've been handled out to the left,

559
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: those two guys has been perfect. Yeah, yeah, get the word,

560
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 1: get them out yeah days if yes, you need them, yes, yes,

561
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: But for those two guys on the right, Jamon Brown

562
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: and Rob Havenstein, Jamon Brown had a couple of struggles

563
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: in that first Dallas game. I thought he played much

564
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: better along with Rob Havenstein in that second game against Oakland.

565
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: But to me, there there still seemed to be a

566
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: lot of questions, especially from fans, about Okay, is that

567
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: guard position settled? Do you think it's settled? I would

568
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 1: say this is going to be your star line up. Yeah. Yeah,

569
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: And if I could pick one for the next sixteen

570
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,959
Speaker 1: seventeen weeks, it would be this one. Me too. Yeah.

571
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: If you started this camp with all jobs are open,

572
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 1: all and compete for the jobs, I think you'd get

573
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: this five. Probably. Yeah. I don't think there's a mistake

574
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: there in the lineup. So yeah, if you you know,

575
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,919
Speaker 1: knock on wood, they all stay healthy, right, And to me,

576
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: that's the key when you talk about playoff teams and

577
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: you go look at their lineups for most of the time,

578
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: their offensive line had been healthy all seasons. So if

579
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,879
Speaker 1: you can get that, then you know you're looking pretty

580
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: good offensively. Yeah, you probably are now. I think one

581
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: of the things that probably impacted Brown in that first

582
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: game was the fact that you've been playing outside of tackle. Now,

583
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: we were discussing this a little bit earlier before the show.

584
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Speaker 1: You don't necessarily think it as much of a big deal.

585
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think it's a big deal, but I

586
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: think it's a factor because when you are out at

587
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: right tackle, you're on the island. When you're a right guard,

588
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: you're in the phone booth. So maybe that had a

589
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: little something to do with it. And when you're talking

590
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 1: about stepping inside and getting those guys like that, oh,

591
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt. Um. And that's another thing that

592
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm I told you this before. I'm disappointed that ninety

593
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: nine isn't here. Oh yeah, to work out the right guard, right,

594
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: it could have been Havenstein. It's Jamon Brown now, But

595
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: just to work out that guy, because if you can

596
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: catch up to him, you can catch up to just

597
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: about anybody from the National Football League. But yeah, I mean, look,

598
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: I think they've done a great job when they flopped

599
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: and then now that they flop back to Brown and

600
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: Havenstein being Garden tackle. I think they've done a great

601
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: job there. So with the reps they're getting and continued

602
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: reps going into the regular season, I don't think the

603
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: right side is going to be as much of a

604
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: concern as it was to begin camp. Okay, yeah, no,

605
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I think that's that's one

606
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: of the good things that we've seen with Aaron Cromer

607
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: new offensive line coaches, that he has been able to

608
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: settle that kind of five guys up front. There's no panic. Yeah,

609
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: there's no panic at all out of this coaching staff

610
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: about the right side. Yeah, exactly. Okay, Um, so something else,

611
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you saw this or not,

612
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: but there's me. Go ahead. I don't see every I

613
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: see everything. Now you're just getting go ahead. No, you

614
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: know almost everything. Okay, what what did I miss? Miles?

615
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. In case you miss,

616
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: you don't know if I saw this? What did I miss?

617
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: I should probably just say, right so, Peter Schreeger of

618
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: um NFL, it's not NFL an, did you see it?

619
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: Good morning football? Okay, you didn't even see it. I

620
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: did see it anyway, Yeah, I know anyway. Peter Schreeger,

621
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: big Cooper Cup fan. Yes, this week on Good Morning Football,

622
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: he made this big prediction that Cooper Cup will have

623
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: a hundred receptions for his rookie season. What do you

624
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: think of that? Then he's behind me, behind you on

625
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: the on the Cup train. Yeah, I think I think

626
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: we said that after the first week of camp. I

627
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I didn't say, I know I did. I said,

628
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Speaker 1: if he stays healthy, he's probably going to see a

629
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Speaker 1: hundred targets. Yeah, there's a difference between hundred targets one

630
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: hundred receptions one hundred targets. I'm on board with you. Well,

631
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 1: the way he catches the football, I think he catches

632
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: ninety five percent of him which means which which that's

633
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: huge deal. Well, if it's a past defense, if the

634
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: guy gets his hand on the ball and knocks it out,

635
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: that's not his fall. No, But if it hits his hands,

636
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: he's going to catch. Elite catch percentage is like eight. Okay,

637
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: you've done of targets. How many drops have you seen

638
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: him make in this camp? Very very few? Yeah, Okay,

639
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: So I'm not just pulling this out of my neck.

640
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: I know you're not. Yeah, but I'm just saying like that.

641
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: The hundred receptions, man, that's it's a lot of receptions.

642
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: I think. Um, I think we said he's gonna have

643
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: a chance for a season like that. Now, Yes, Now

644
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: a lot has to go into that. You have to

645
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: stay on the field offensively, yes, yeah, you have to

646
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 1: pick up first downs, and I think his name is

647
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: going to be all over that. But yeah, that's no shock.

648
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: That doesn't shock me at all. Yeah, yeah, Okay, I

649
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: mean I think it's a bold prediction, mostly because Cup

650
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: is a rookie. Yeah, and you've not seen him do

651
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: it during the regular season, and you've not seen the

652
00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: quarterback do that kind of thing during the regular seas.

653
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: It's just some things that are a no brainer. When

654
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: you watch the way this offense is going and the

655
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: way he plays football, it's like a perfect match. Now,

656
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 1: I would say this, for Cooper Cup to have a

657
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: hundred catch season, Todd Gurley is probably over fifteen hundred

658
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: because they two go hand in hand. You're not just

659
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: gonna be throwing the ball all over the yard. That's

660
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: not the offense. That's not the way it's going to go.

661
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be balanced. So if he's open enough

662
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: for a hundred catches, then Gurley's ripping off long run

663
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: after long run. And the other thing that's happening is

664
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins is getting down the field, yes, and he's

665
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: getting learing out yeah, and all that as well. There's

666
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: a lot that goes into one hundred catch season absolutely, yes,

667
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 1: So that's interesting. Um. But with this receiving corps, one

668
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: of the questions that people on Twitter keep asking is

669
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: how does Tabon Austin fit Now that you've got a

670
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: presumable top three of Sammy Watkins, Robert Woods Cooper Cup.

671
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: Where where do you see tab On Austin fit? You know,

672
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: as long as he's healthy, Um, you can bring in

673
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: his skill set, what he does and what he brings

674
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,239
Speaker 1: to an offense in just about any personnel group and

675
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: the defense has problems. Yes, So I think what we

676
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: need to start with is Tavon being healthy. Yes, and

677
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: Tavon is going to be here, we know this. So

678
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: as long as he's healthy and there's still that end

679
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: around threat and that screen threat, yeah, that will benefit

680
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: this offense. Yeah. That's not something you just leave on

681
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: the bench because you can't find a way to fit it.

682
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: Into your offense. When he's healthy, you'll find a way

683
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: to get him on the field. Yeah, no question. Yeah.

684
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: When Reggie Bush was in New Orleans, there were times

685
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: when they called players that were designed for him to

686
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: get the rock and other times where he was designed

687
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: to be the decoy. Yes, and it all worked. So

688
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: I see Tavon Austin be in the same way. Well

689
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: if you remember when I think Denard Robinson came out

690
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: of Michigan and they called him offensive weapon once he

691
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: got to the to the to the Jaguars. Yes, I

692
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: sort of feel like that's what you can do with

693
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin. He's going to throw it too. No, I'm

694
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: just saying. I'm just saying because the other guy could throw, Yeah,

695
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: could he could? He? Actually he can get it down

696
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: the field kinda laep Why he wasn't really that a

697
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: deep ball. If you can launch a deep ball that

698
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: you're going to be a quarterback. He's called an offensive

699
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: weapon because he wasn't good enough to be a leave

700
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: JaMarcus Russell alone. I was talking about um. But I

701
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 1: think the point stands. You know, with Tavon Austin, he

702
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: can be somebody that that goes on the outside and

703
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: runs a route for you. He can be somebody that

704
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: comes on the inside, he can be out of the backfield.

705
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: Sometimes he's just he's a guy you can move all

706
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: around the offense and still have him contribute to make

707
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: Let me sum this up. When Tavon Austin is on

708
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: the field, when he's suited up and on the field

709
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: with the offense, there's no way a defense is going

710
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: to ignore him, right, Yes, we're just not going to

711
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: pay attention to Tavon aust Yeah, of course. Yeah, there's

712
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: a guy that's been proven that he can put the

713
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: ball in the end zone about eight different ways, So

714
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: that alone is valuable to an offense. Yes, what about

715
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: these tight ends. I mean we've seen I think some

716
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: good progress. A guy like Tyler Higbee, Tamaric Himingway too,

717
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: also made some nice impressive catches skyscrapers. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

718
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: You got this guy, Gerald Everett and what do he

719
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: thought of him? Matchup problem? Yeah? Good luck? Who's covering? Um?

720
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: I like him better after the catch. He's a good route. Yes, yeah,

721
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: he's getting better. I mean he functions well within the offense.

722
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: M he's gonna have to be a better inline blocker

723
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: because you are a tight end. That's part of your job.

724
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: But as we were talking about with the Max, he

725
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: is really gonna blossom in the passing game. And like

726
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 1: I said, after the catch, this is where it starts

727
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: with him. When you're a defender on him, First you

728
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: have to cover him, and then when he gets his

729
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: hand hands on the pill you have to actually bring

730
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: him down right and he's in the open field and

731
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: you don't have help. No, Yeah, he's special. I mean

732
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: we've seen it the first couple of preseason games where

733
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: he's either made a couple guys miss when he's you know,

734
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: on the field and he's made the catch and now

735
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: he's trying to shake him, or he's just got a

736
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,800
Speaker 1: guy fifty five. I can't really remember his name of

737
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: the Oakland, but oh my goodness, gracious, I mean he

738
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: fell out of his shoes twice. Yeah, on that play

739
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: there was the one everybody saw, but right when Everett

740
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 1: was catching the football right on the line, he shook

741
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 1: him off the line and he like put right hand

742
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: down on blue, you know for playing twister, and then

743
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: later on it's left hand blue and your ankles are

744
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,359
Speaker 1: all over the field. Yes, Um, that to me would

745
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: be your possession receiver. Oh, yes, yeah, I know. We

746
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: always want to point to Cooper Cup. Yeah, because of

747
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: how he looks. Yeah, that to me is a guy

748
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: that I would label as a possession guy. That's the

749
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: guy that gives you first down and more chances to

750
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: run the football. Yeah. Well, because that's that's what he's

751
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: done in the past. I mean you look at everything

752
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: he's been able to do. Um, I was talking to

753
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: him after that game in Oakland and who said that

754
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: McVeigh and Shane Waldron have stressed to him the importance

755
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 1: of being able to shake guys like that, because that

756
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,479
Speaker 1: is how you get those extra yards after the catch,

757
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: and that's really important for sort of to add a

758
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: kind of dynamic aspect to this offense. And so that's

759
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: why you're seeing it from him because the importance has

760
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: been stressed him and being able to joke out guys

761
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: like that, right, Or if he's got a smaller guy

762
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,320
Speaker 1: in coverage, because he's so much of a matchup problem

763
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: that you got to bring a smaller guy in to

764
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: cover him, then get the ball out to him faster

765
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: so he has a chance to wheel and deal with

766
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: that smaller guy and break the tackle. If it's a

767
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: bigger guy, longer developing route, you can't keep up with him.

768
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: So another weapon for Jared Goff to have. Yes, it's

769
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: interesting to me and we were sort of talking about

770
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: this earlier, but just how many weapons we can go

771
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: down the line and talk about. I mean, we've spent

772
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: a lot of time on this podcast, and most of

773
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: it has been on the offense because of the way

774
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: these weapons are starting to be developed. I think that

775
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 1: says something about where this team is right Yeah. I

776
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: mean we talked about camp, we talked about where they

777
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: are now. I mean, I think Sean McVay has done

778
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: a great job preparing this team for September, and you're

779
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: going to get into some dog days, and we talk

780
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: about the trick of a head coach where when things

781
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: aren't going well and everybody faces adversity in the National

782
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: Football League question how to keep guys engage when you're

783
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: going through those dog days, when your first instinct is

784
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: to throw things and you can't because people are watching. Yeah,

785
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: so that will be the trick. And this is where

786
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: you know he's never been before. Wade Phillips has you

787
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: can counsel but still ultimately he is the head coach,

788
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: so every step is going to be new for him.

789
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: Just like Jared Goff, we talked about fourth quarter comebacks.

790
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: You know, his next fourth quarter comeback victory is going

791
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: to be his first, because the next victory is going

792
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: to be That's what I mean, and it's going to

793
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: be a lot of first for a lot of people,

794
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: including the head coach. So I mean, but from this point,

795
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: from from draft on, since he was hired to be

796
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: the head coach of this football team, I think he's

797
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: done a great job preparing. You know. One of the

798
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: other aspects that are factors and things like that that

799
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: I got out of interviewing folks around Sean McVeigh for

800
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: this profile that's going to come out on him September

801
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: ten was how he has remained the same guy. You know,

802
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: people talk a lot about how he has been the

803
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: same guy as an offensive coordinator, going back to when

804
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: he was in Miami as a wide receiver, talking to

805
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: Chris Shula was one of his college teammates. Then Joe Barry,

806
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: assistant linebackers coach, excuse me, linebackers coach and assistant head coach.

807
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: They've known him previously, and they say that his personality

808
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: has remained the same. Obviously, his responsibilities have grown, his

809
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: knowledge has grown, but he is the type of guy

810
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: who can remain consistent in all situations and talking to

811
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,959
Speaker 1: McVeigh as well, he's the type of guy who knows, Look,

812
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: I can't have a bad day because I have to

813
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 1: set the tone with my leadership. And he always talks

814
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: about we and it being such a collective. But I

815
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, he knows where

816
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: responsibility lies for setting the tone and being a leader

817
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 1: and being kind of a captain of whatever this thing

818
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: here turns into. And he takes that so seriously. And

819
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: that's why I think he's done such a good job

820
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: of it, because he has the right attitude for it,

821
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: and that is special at his age. Tease it, Miles,

822
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: don't give me the whole article. I'm not giving You

823
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: just gave me the whole thing, and I don't have

824
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: to read it. I don't have to read it anymore.

825
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: You gave me the whole thing. No, No, I look

826
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: forward to the day when Sean mcvah actually has a

827
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 1: nickname like Chucky. Yeah, and you know that's that means

828
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: the team is doing pretty well. Yeah, yeah, and that

829
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: I mean, look, there's always going to be different pressures

830
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: and distractions and and things that might pull you away

831
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: from what the ultimate goal is, which is winning and

832
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: Lombardi winning the Super Bowl, but and especially here in

833
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, distractions galore. Yea, but so far, so good.

834
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: I think he's handled it perfectly. Yeah. Nice, there's a

835
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: mean sounding car. But but I want to talk about

836
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: the defense. Yeah, because are there, right, And that's part

837
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: of it. You know, you have this unit that is

838
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: coached by Wade Phillips. You feel good about the unit

839
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: because it is coach by Wade Phillips. But to this point,

840
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 1: there are a lot of guys we have not really

841
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: seen out there. And I'm not even talking about Aaron Donald.

842
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 1: I mean Michael Robert Quinn right now, like came on Webster,

843
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: the guys like that, and Nickel will be coldon played

844
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: a little bit in that first game against Dallas, but

845
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: we haven't seen him as much either. Is there sort

846
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: of a level of concern that you might not have

847
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: that much time to see those guys in the preseason

848
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 1: before September tenth comes around. Well, as it stands right now,

849
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: your best pass rusher is a guy that didn't finish

850
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 1: the season, right that that of course that should concern you. Yes, yeah,

851
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: your best corner also had some injury problems throughout the

852
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: last CSM. That would concern you. Um, your your other

853
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: best linebacker outside of alec Ogletree, Yeah, hasn't played yet,

854
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: right and Alex Barron, Yeah, that should concern excuse me,

855
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: Mark Barren? Would I say Alex Barron, I'm not sure

856
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 1: who that is. Alex Barron used to play left tackle

857
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: for the Rams a while ago. Okay, your head was Yeah,

858
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 1: let's just forget that, Okay, Yeah, I mean Mark Baron's

859
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: not currently scheduled to play through the preseason. McVeigh has

860
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: said that they're going to save him for September. Your

861
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: other starting corner outside of Tremaine Johnson hasn't played, right, Yeah,

862
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 1: there's a lot of the play on Saturday. There's a

863
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: lot of concerns there, right, and all those could be

864
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: erased with a good performance. I think the defense has

865
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: done a great job in the preseason. Yeah so far.

866
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: So these are concerns, but I mean they're not worries, right,

867
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: They're a little bit different. Yeah, Yeah, and I agree

868
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 1: with that, I mean, I think they're concerns, but not worries,

869
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 1: in part because of the guy who you have leading

870
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: the unit. And I just sort of said this five times,

871
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: but Wade Phillips I think makes you feel comfortable with

872
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,879
Speaker 1: almost any situation, right because he's experienced so much and

873
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: he has had elite defenses for so many years. It

874
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: just shows that who he is, and you know why

875
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: he is legendary. I guess I don't think you're ever

876
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: out of the fight with Wade Phillips, and I don't

877
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: think you're ever in a situation where you're that side

878
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: of the ball will be a disaster. Right if he

879
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: is in charge, you know what I mean. You may

880
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: not be top five, right, Um, you may not be

881
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: even top ten, but I guarantee you you'll be doing

882
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: things in game, weekend in week out that are all

883
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,359
Speaker 1: geared towards winning that game. Period. Um. The guy's got

884
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 1: a wealth of knowledge. Yes, he's passing it down to

885
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: the coaching step, yes, and to the players on his

886
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: side of the room. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah. So let's

887
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: let's talk about this Week three matchup then with the

888
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Charger. The Chargers, Yes, the Chargers. Um, what

889
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: are some of the things you're looking for this week?

890
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: But hold on, Hi, Todd, he's more important. He's more

891
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: important than you, So I have to talk to Toime.

892
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: It's definitely more important. Yes, anyway, Yes, things you want

893
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 1: to see this week against the Chargers, you know, I

894
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: like to see the offense continue, Um scoring, definitely, putting

895
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 1: themselves in good situations yes, um No turnovers, no, definitely,

896
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 1: don't put your defense in the short field, especially now. Yeah,

897
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: I'd like to see the defense take the next step.

898
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: Let's see how many three and outs you can pull

899
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 1: off against a guy like Philip Rivers, an elite quarterback

900
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: in this league, which is impossible. I mean, it's possible,

901
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: but it's impossible. It's hard. It's very hard. Yeah. I

902
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: mean that's asking a lot of this of this defense

903
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: to stop this offense. But it is possible. Um. I

904
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: wish you had your best weapons, but you do not.

905
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 1: So just taking a step beyond what you've done in Oakland,

906
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: continuing on with your progression towards September. Hi, mister McQuaid,

907
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm voting for you for the Pro Bowl. Nice tackles,

908
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: Thank you. See there is Jacob Quaid said, thank you

909
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: to DeMarco. We love you. The funny thing about when

910
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: you do this d is that like the people can't

911
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: hear what the players are saying. That's okay, you're relaying.

912
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: I know, I am. That's why I'm trying. I'm trying

913
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: to be a good host and do that to make

914
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: sure that all the people understand. No one's throwing a

915
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: tomato yet. We're good. No, that is good, um, but

916
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 1: for at least for this week. For me, what I

917
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: like to see is the continued progression of the offense. Yeah,

918
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: you're talking about the defense. Look, we saw some really

919
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: good things out of Jared Goff last week and that

920
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: first team unit, and even when the left side, the

921
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: center over on the left side of the line was

922
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 1: not in, we still saw Jared Goff be able to

923
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: move the ball against Oakland. Tod Gurley wasn't in on

924
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 1: that fourth drive either where they got that field goal.

925
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: They went down the field a long ways. Yeah, it

926
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: took a lot of time off the clock and they

927
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 1: ended it with points. I want to see more of that.

928
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be more difficult because the

929
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,959
Speaker 1: Chargers are going to game plan here. Oh no, doubt.

930
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: We know they're gonna tighten up. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna

931
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: have a dress rehearsal, Yes, especially when you watch the

932
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: tape of what this offense did to Oakland, right, Yeah,

933
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: you're you're going to have a dress rehearsal for the

934
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 1: regular season. Why not? It doesn't count. Yes, So there's

935
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be tougher for the offense to

936
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: get guys open and move the football. But then it

937
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: goes back to God. Things I want to see less

938
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: of in preseason is Jared Goff's head bouncing off the turf. Yeah,

939
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: well we have not seen that. Well we did with

940
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack. That was one time, one time, okay, and

941
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: that's one too many, Okay, No, and that's fair. Yeah,

942
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: but I'll say this, when Jared Goff got sacked twenty

943
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: six times in seven games games yea last year and

944
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: you know, hit, I don't know how many times more

945
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: seven sacks in one game. It's in three quarters of

946
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: one game last year. It's a lot in comparison, And

947
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: I know, you know you strive for perfection, yes, but

948
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: in comparison, it's way better, no doubt, for both quarterbacks.

949
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 1: All three and Sean Manion specifically, and Jared Goff. I

950
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 1: think the offensive line and running backs and tight ends

951
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: have done a really good job, and there's a great

952
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 1: game plan in protecting the quarterback, just making sure that

953
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: that guy your flag. The thing we're fighting over is

954
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: our quarterback, and the other quarterback on the other side,

955
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 1: the thing we're fighting over stays clean throughout the game. Yes. Okay,

956
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: So since this is the dress rehearsal, I'll ask you

957
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: this part two because this is what we usually ask

958
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: in the regular season. You already named Rivers, and obviously

959
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: Vers is an elite quarterback, but anyone else on that

960
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: team making nervous? Who makes you nervous? Gates, the Chargers,

961
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 1: Gates worries me. Yes, he's a problem. Melvin Ingram is

962
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: a problem, Um, both sides of the ball. Yeah, Bosa

963
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: is a problem. Yes, h yeah. Um. Brendon Mebane is

964
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: tough to move. Yes, yeah, big dude, he really be very,

965
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: very tough to move. The defensive tackle. Um, and I'm

966
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: drawing a blank. Oh my god. The Illinois kid, the

967
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: other tackle. I'm sorry, I'm drawing the blank too. Oh

968
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 1: my god, he's a phone bowler. None of us know,

969
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: see concussions. I have an excuse, I have concussions. I don't. Oh,

970
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 1: it will come. I'm just not the Chargers reporter, so

971
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: it will come to me. Um, their D line, their

972
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: entire de line is very good. Yeah. They're now coached

973
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:41,439
Speaker 1: by Gus Bradley, a former Seahawks defensive coordinator, was, of course,

974
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: the the head coach of the Jaguars for a number

975
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: of years there. But he has done historically a very

976
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: good job with coaching defense. Oh, no doubt, no doubt.

977
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 1: That's really gonna bother me. I can't remember his name.

978
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 1: Text to me later. Yeah, Oh my god, he's he's

979
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: a he's a threat. Um. He reminds me of Gerald McCoy,

980
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 1: another guy that you just can't single upright now. He's

981
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: not Aaron Donald. Um, he's not that time. Yeah, he's

982
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: not that type of wrecking machine. But he's a guy

983
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: you have to worry about. Oh my god, that's gonna

984
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: bug me say again. Oh yes, yes, yes, thank you,

985
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: thank you, Oh my god, god. Pro Bowl? All right,

986
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: look it up, all right, right, we don't just want

987
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: I better be Yeah, I would hope. So, Yeah, I'm wrong,

988
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: I'm dead wrong. But he's tremendous. Yeah, he had a

989
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: good practice, good couple of practices against the Rams. Yeah

990
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a problem. Yeah, he's gonna be a problem. Um.

991
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: But I think the one thing you do want to

992
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 1: see though, is the offensive line protect off with those

993
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: guys you know that you're talking about coming after him,

994
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: ingram Bosa especially. You know we saw that happen um

995
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: with the with the Rams Chargers practices. Um, but I

996
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: think you definitely want to see them shore that up,

997
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 1: store that up. Well. One I would say, if it's

998
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: ones versus ones, and I'm not gonna mention any names,

999
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: yeah one, I wouldn't worry too much about. It's the

1000
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: other one that's going to give you problems. Okay, Yeah,

1001
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: talking about the Chargers D line especially they're edge rushers.

1002
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: Interesting one I'm not concerned with or too concerned with

1003
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,320
Speaker 1: the other. I'm very concerned. Yeah, interesting, all right, anything

1004
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: else you want to leave the people with before? We know?

1005
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: So far, so good. Knock on wood outside of a

1006
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, dominic easily. A few bumps and bruises aside.

1007
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: I think everyone's been I wouldn't say lucky, but they're

1008
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,800
Speaker 1: they're in great condition. If you're not in peak position

1009
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: or peak physical condition right now, you're never going to

1010
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: be right. Yeah. This late in training camp and in preseason,

1011
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: so I think they've done a great job getting ready.

1012
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: So let's hope that goodwill and good luck carries over

1013
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: to this week and next and get onto the regular season.

1014
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: They definitely want to stay healthy. Hey, thanks everybody so

1015
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 1: much for tuning into this edition of Between the Horns.

1016
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: From our producers Matt and Glenn. For DeMarco far, I'm

1017
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: Miles Simmons. We will see you next time.