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Speaker 1: stand Back, Patrick Walker, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeomans. It
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Speaker 1: and the SWBC studios. As we break down the Cowboys
Speaker 1: loss to the Philadelphia Eagles twenty six to seventeen on
Speaker 1: Sunday Night, Football and world do so here over the
Speaker 1: next forty five minutes. Chris being in the Backgrob Phillips,
Speaker 1: Isaiah stand Back, Patrick No see walk around. Kyle Yeoman's. Gentlemen,
Speaker 1: this is the last time the Cowboys will play on
Speaker 1: primetime for a little bit of time. So that's probably good. Patrick,
Speaker 1: What times you get in last night Wheels touched down
Speaker 1: here at DFW a little bit before for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you're bright and earlier, you're rested. You got your
Speaker 1: black Holday No no sleep right, no sleep? Patrick? No sleep.
Speaker 1: Walker was the first time you stayed up to four o'clock,
Speaker 1: Not at all. That's just saying there. No, see, don't
Speaker 1: make it like it's the first it was basically that's
Speaker 1: bite like the first time. That's basically a carbon copy
Speaker 1: of the New York trip. That's like literally exactly and
Speaker 1: I didn't go on this one. That's literally exactly when
Speaker 1: we rolled in from New York. So those are tough ones.
Speaker 1: So God bless you for being even if you're more
Speaker 1: so when you don't have the dope to ride in on. Unfortunately, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't put on the cowboy hat and
Speaker 1: you can't drink the tiger notice week. It's unfortunate. But
Speaker 1: that's okay for the lion milk though, But we'll get
Speaker 1: to that later in the week. Okay, we're going we're
Speaker 1: going that far into the Lions rivalry. Don't know what
Speaker 1: this is. We'll talk about those. Okay, nine point loss
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys yesterday. Cooper rush eighteen of thirty eight passing.
Speaker 1: He had more in completions than he had completions one
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty one yards, one touchdown, three interceptions. He
Speaker 1: had not thrown a pick prior to this game. This
Speaker 1: season and then throws three in the one game and Isaiah,
Speaker 1: we had talked about it that the luck at some
Speaker 1: point for Cooper Rush was going to run out, and
Speaker 1: it looked like it ran out a little bit last night.
Speaker 1: He threw three interceptions. It could have been worse, really
Speaker 1: if you look at some of the throws when you
Speaker 1: go back on the film. But in the game where
Speaker 1: you we talked about it previously, you can't give up
Speaker 1: the football. You have to hold onto the football, take
Speaker 1: care of the football. He gave it up and that
Speaker 1: ultimately was the difference. Yeah, it wasn't just him, but
Speaker 1: this for people that are like, oh my gosh, I
Speaker 1: can't believe he played like that. You've seen this from Rush,
Speaker 1: and and I don't want to make this like it's
Speaker 1: just a Rush thing. Rush didn't lose you this ball game. Now,
Speaker 1: but we saw this in Washington. We talked about this
Speaker 1: last week that that was lucky as all get out.
Speaker 1: And that's why the whole conversation came up, because you
Speaker 1: had two interceptions that got called back because of illegal
Speaker 1: contact and holding or whatever else. So we've seen that
Speaker 1: those Errand throws, you know, be kind of tossed up there.
Speaker 1: We've also seen it when he's under a little bit
Speaker 1: of duress him not make the best decisions. Okay, the
Speaker 1: velocity changes all those types of things, but we've also
Speaker 1: seen it where we just can't move it up come
Speaker 1: ball that effectively. And the biggest thing we said last
Speaker 1: week was the biggest threat to the Dallas Cowboys in
Speaker 1: this weekend's game was getting behind. Because now you're gonna
Speaker 1: ask somebody who you've tasked with being a game manager.
Speaker 1: Don't be confused by having Cooper Rush as your game
Speaker 1: manager versus being somebody who can go win you a game,
Speaker 1: and the moment that you placed that responsibility on him,
Speaker 1: that's what you're gonna see is what happened yesterday. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't go on the trip, but I thought watching
Speaker 1: the broadcast, I thought Chris Collinsworth just summed it perfectly
Speaker 1: up at the end when he said the Eagles had
Speaker 1: more ways to win the game than the Cowboys did.
Speaker 1: And I wrote this in gut feeling on Friday, I
Speaker 1: felt like the Eagles are probably the better overall complete
Speaker 1: team right now. I was still willing to ride with
Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense, provided Cooper Rush takes care of the ball.
Speaker 1: And they still because we've talked about it for weeks.
Speaker 1: They've had to play a certain way to be able
Speaker 1: to win football games, and it leaves a very slim
Speaker 1: margin for error. And anytime you lose the turnover battle
Speaker 1: three to nothing and really four to nothing, and you
Speaker 1: gift a team that good the ball three times in
Speaker 1: your own territory, you're probably gonna lose. Now. I was
Speaker 1: really impressed with the way they fought back. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the mark of a good team. That's a team that's
Speaker 1: gonna They're still gonna go places, I think, and and
Speaker 1: they should probably be favored in at least the next
Speaker 1: three games that they play. UM and Dak's coming back
Speaker 1: based off of that pregame work out, no see, I
Speaker 1: can't imagine he won't be back for Detroit. UM, but
Speaker 1: that that was the recipe for losing games with Cooper Rush.
Speaker 1: That was the type of performance I think we thought
Speaker 1: we'd see more often, to be quite honest, just because
Speaker 1: he's never really played a lot and it's and and
Speaker 1: and as it is right like, it's not all on him, Um,
Speaker 1: but they had to play a certain way to win games,
Speaker 1: especially to be a team that good, and they didn't
Speaker 1: you know it was too late for them to come
Speaker 1: back in that game. Okay, so for me, this is
Speaker 1: this is this is going to be a difficult fine
Speaker 1: line to walk. But let's let's try to walk the
Speaker 1: line as best we can't. Um, let's let's use a
Speaker 1: compliment sandwich when it comes to Cooper Rush right first, foremost,
Speaker 1: thank you Cooper Rush for your service, right hand class.
Speaker 1: You know, he deserves an ovation for getting the Cowboys
Speaker 1: to the point where you know, you hate that they
Speaker 1: lost to Philly and in the fashion in which they did. However,
Speaker 1: if he doesn't play efficient efficiently and he doesn't give
Speaker 1: the Cowboys that five percent that we kept talking about
Speaker 1: on a weekly basis, maybe this team is one in
Speaker 1: five or or in six. Okay, instead they're four and two.
Speaker 1: You hate losing, You hate losing to Philadelphia. You hate
Speaker 1: losing the Philadelphia in Philadelphia on prime time. However, Cowboys
Speaker 1: as a whole are still in very good ship. Could
Speaker 1: be better shape, but could be much much worse. So
Speaker 1: there's the positive. Thank you Cooper Rush most certainly for that.
Speaker 1: What's also true is a large portion of this loss
Speaker 1: is hanging on Cooper Rush. Your shoulders and leading into
Speaker 1: this game when we did our predictions, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'd love for them to prove me wrong in these
Speaker 1: type predictions. But I felt like the defense would do
Speaker 1: what the defense has been doing, and for the most part,
Speaker 1: they did, but they started to get gassed when you
Speaker 1: started to look at at certain points in the game
Speaker 1: the Eagles had a nine point time of possession or
Speaker 1: nine minute time of possession advantage, ten minutes, eleven minutes.
Speaker 1: At some point, it's it's going to wear on the defense,
Speaker 1: and in large part because Cooper Rush, the LEPrecon that
Speaker 1: was on his shoulder. As raw Peace so eloquently put
Speaker 1: it on a week to week basis, I stated that
Speaker 1: I felt like in Philly it was going to take
Speaker 1: a nap. It didn't just take a nap. It crawled
Speaker 1: under a rock and it died. Those potential interceptions, those
Speaker 1: potential interceptions that Cooper Rush would have thrown on a
Speaker 1: weekly basis that were negated by penalties that were dropped
Speaker 1: by other teams, most recently like Bobby Wagner for example,
Speaker 1: I said, I don't believe the Eagles dropped these. I
Speaker 1: believe those those opportunities turning the giveaways for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and unfortunately that's what happened. I have a category that
Speaker 1: I'm working on in my analytics and science called critical
Speaker 1: error and critical error. I try to qualify because you
Speaker 1: have errors, but critical errors are different. I try to
Speaker 1: qualify a critical error by either points left on the
Speaker 1: field point or momentum swing and or it results in
Speaker 1: points the other way. Okay, like a pick six would
Speaker 1: be a critical error. Of the seven critical errors that
Speaker 1: I have listed, I have to go back and watch
Speaker 1: the film, four of them belong to Cooper Rush. Three
Speaker 1: obviously the interceptions, but there was a nearror, a near
Speaker 1: interception on a target to Michael Gallup in the end
Speaker 1: zone that left four points on the board because all
Speaker 1: they were able to get for three at that point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so be a Cooper Rush or anyone. If any player
Speaker 1: where in any number gets four out of is accountable
Speaker 1: for four out of seven critical errors, then you have
Speaker 1: to kind of put the loss mostly on the shoulder. So, yes,
Speaker 1: this one is on Cooper Rush. But I go back
Speaker 1: to the bottom bun So to speak of my compliment
Speaker 1: Sandwich in that Cooper Rush did exactly what they needed
Speaker 1: him to do in a backup row. He stepped up.
Speaker 1: He didn't lose the Cowboys any games before Sunday. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: the carriage turned back into a pumpkin, but it did
Speaker 1: so in the days preceding, which would have probably happened anyway.
Speaker 1: QB one looks like he's on the way back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so compliment sandwich, and I mean, this will be a
Speaker 1: little bit of the meat on the outside of that bun.
Speaker 1: Because you look at ten points off of turnovers in
Speaker 1: the first half, the interception that led to a touchdown
Speaker 1: and only had a forty four yard field for Philadelphia
Speaker 1: to navigate after they just went fifteen plays eighty yards.
Speaker 1: They had forty four yards and they went down the
Speaker 1: field and they scored on the touchdown to a j. Brown,
Speaker 1: so short yardage seven points. And then right after that
Speaker 1: turnover they come back and they only had the one
Speaker 1: yard but it ends up in a field goal for
Speaker 1: Jake Elliot from fifty one yards out after that second interception.
Speaker 1: So there's ten points right there. You take those ten
Speaker 1: points away from the final score, then it's a Cowboys win. Now,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have gone for two in that situation. It's
Speaker 1: got twenty points off of critical errors by my co
Speaker 1: there you go. So I mean you can add add
Speaker 1: one more because they would have they would have kicked
Speaker 1: the pat it would have been a tie ball game basically.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not counted as a turnover, but when
Speaker 1: you turn it over on downs at your own thirty four,
Speaker 1: Philly got a field goal off of that, So okay,
Speaker 1: that's to me, that's thirteen points off turnovers. And like
Speaker 1: no C said, if you want to count twenty off
Speaker 1: critical errors, like you can't win that way. You just can't,
Speaker 1: not against a team that good. And Dante Fowler had
Speaker 1: a critical error as well, neutral zone infection in fraction
Speaker 1: on fourth and fourth coaching staff, well, there were there
Speaker 1: was one play on the fourth and one. There were
Speaker 1: two critical errors on the fourth and one one m no,
Speaker 1: the decision to not challenge the spot after Seed Lamb
Speaker 1: caught that ball, and then the play call out of
Speaker 1: the four and one that was an air it passed
Speaker 1: on a bootleg from Let's talk about that situation because
Speaker 1: I know a lot of fans are frustrated with it.
Speaker 1: I feel like yesterday in the mentions in the comment
Speaker 1: sections that I saw from the postgame reaction, a lot
Speaker 1: of it pointed to the third or the third down
Speaker 1: dive by Cedee Lamb to try and pick up the
Speaker 1: first down upon further review and ends up being a
Speaker 1: first down. It should have been called a first down. However,
Speaker 1: no challenge from the coaching staff. Then they rush up
Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage they run this errant play
Speaker 1: that just didn't look like it was going to work
Speaker 1: from the first place. Isaiah, when you look back at
Speaker 1: what happened, there would one would you have challenged it?
Speaker 1: Two would you have gone for it? And three would
Speaker 1: you have called a different play if you would have
Speaker 1: gone for it? Should have never got to the point
Speaker 1: where they needed to call a play because they should
Speaker 1: have challenged it. Should have it should have just been
Speaker 1: done right there. Everybody's going to point at the referees
Speaker 1: all the referee should have made that call. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: should have. They make calls, they miscalls, But guess what,
Speaker 1: that's why you ever read flag in your pocket, honestly,
Speaker 1: and you go. You can go back and watch on
Speaker 1: the all twenty two for those of you listening, the
Speaker 1: line judge at the top of the formation, at the
Speaker 1: top of the screen, she actually marked it right. She
Speaker 1: had a first down marked the line judge at the
Speaker 1: bottom came forward and he was covered up by a
Speaker 1: couple of extra bodies. She had the better look at it.
Speaker 1: They should have deferred to her judgment, but instead they
Speaker 1: deferred to the line judge at the bottom of the
Speaker 1: field too, and they ended up marking at short. And
Speaker 1: it happens. But guess what all coach McCarthy had to
Speaker 1: do was reaching his little handy dandy waste man and
Speaker 1: throw that flag out. Yeah, and there's so many I
Speaker 1: think there's on average handy dandy waste man. I think, yeah, there.
Speaker 1: He obviously season in real time. He has a head
Speaker 1: set on. He has his coaches in the booth. Offensive coordinators,
Speaker 1: defensive coordinators are all up there, and they have all
Speaker 1: kinds of not scouting, but all the other guys, I mean,
Speaker 1: they have access, right, So somebody should have told him
Speaker 1: to throw the flag, and for whatever reason, they didn't,
Speaker 1: and that hurt him. So here's here's McCarthy's explanation host game.
Speaker 1: I'm going to read from his quote so so the
Speaker 1: fans can get his side of it down Judge Robert
Speaker 1: de Lorenzo, which kind of references what Kyle was saying
Speaker 1: as far as who they should have deferred to, but
Speaker 1: did not. On the sideline told me she had the
Speaker 1: knee down before he extended, before cite Lamb extended. So
Speaker 1: my history has been when the official tells you that
Speaker 1: it's usually pretty clear dot dot dot. There was no
Speaker 1: replaying that sequence, and there wouldn't have been in the
Speaker 1: forty seconds. My experience has been when I'm communicated with
Speaker 1: by the official, I'm usually discouraged from challenging that play.
Speaker 1: End quote. He went on to explain more. But that's
Speaker 1: the context from the McCarthy standpoint. But I do agree
Speaker 1: with Isaiah and most Cowboys fans in this aspect. You're
Speaker 1: on the road, and even if it wasn't as seemingly
Speaker 1: obvious as it actually was, I still would have been
Speaker 1: okay with throwing the challenge flag on that because of
Speaker 1: the magnitude of the game and who you're going against.
Speaker 1: But you know, that's saying it was a little bit
Speaker 1: more obvious and so obviously more so I would have
Speaker 1: been willing to throw that flag and again critical error
Speaker 1: because and it could have been the consequence of it
Speaker 1: could have been deleted by a better play call on
Speaker 1: fourth and one, but instead the play calling fourth and
Speaker 1: one the bootleg to the right that ended up in
Speaker 1: the sale pass. It compounded the critical error and what happens.
Speaker 1: The Eagles get some points after that. So I don't
Speaker 1: want to I don't want a better play calling fourth
Speaker 1: and one. I want to punt it. That was me.
Speaker 1: I was surprised they did it. It's the second quarter.
Speaker 1: You'd love your defense, you trust your defense, and you're
Speaker 1: down fourteen nothing. I get it, you want to get
Speaker 1: some momentum going. But I was surprised that they did
Speaker 1: that that early in the game. Penned back, as far as,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're seeing more and more teams do it.
Speaker 1: Rams did it last week, McCarthy's done it before, but
Speaker 1: Man did it a number of time. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: teams are getting more aggressive. But that's a that's a
Speaker 1: tough situation to put your defense in. Well, even if
Speaker 1: you throw the challenge flag and you don't get it,
Speaker 1: which in this occasion you would have gotten it. But
Speaker 1: if you throw in you don't get it. The worst
Speaker 1: case scenarios, you call a time out, you get your
Speaker 1: ducks in a row, and then you turn around and
Speaker 1: you go out and you either pump the football the
Speaker 1: way because you have more time to think about this decision,
Speaker 1: or you come up with a better play call. Because
Speaker 1: in McCarthy's explanation, they were up in that tempo, they
Speaker 1: were up in the high tempo offense, the turbo that's
Speaker 1: what his terminology was. Use that turbo or turbo look
Speaker 1: as an excuse to say we were gonna go for
Speaker 1: it on fourth down. Anyways, that doesn't make me feel
Speaker 1: any better. Are you about the decision? Are you more
Speaker 1: upset with the non challenge? Are you more upset with
Speaker 1: the fourth down call? Oh, that's a good I think
Speaker 1: I'm more upset with the fourth down call just because
Speaker 1: a challenge is bang bang. I'm not upset by the
Speaker 1: fourth down call. I hated the play call. I couldn't
Speaker 1: stand the play call. I liked it a lot. You
Speaker 1: like going for it down there, you're already if you're
Speaker 1: gonna go for it. I like it a lot because
Speaker 1: where you're where your eyes at. As a defense, interior
Speaker 1: worried about the interior. So getting out on the edge
Speaker 1: is not a bad thing. You get the way that
Speaker 1: there's I'm not I'm not I'm not a long developing
Speaker 1: play for a quarterback that doesn't move well. He's rolling
Speaker 1: out to his rights, throwing off balance. He had some
Speaker 1: inaccuracy issues. You were waiting on Noah Brown to make
Speaker 1: a block on the edge. Still, then he gets tripped
Speaker 1: up by CD. It's just yourself options. It's all bad.
Speaker 1: You still get yourself options. He's out on the edge,
Speaker 1: so he has an option to throw the ball to
Speaker 1: multiple guys that are open or run it. Maybe. Ye
Speaker 1: if Noah Brown hits his block, then yes, actually he didn't.
Speaker 1: But that's why you draw the playoff. You don't draw
Speaker 1: the playoffs saying what if my guys don't do their job?
Speaker 1: But I don't say understanding, But you also have seven
Speaker 1: hundred pounds of grown man sitting in the middle of
Speaker 1: your formation, so I don't I'm not opposed to getting
Speaker 1: out on the edge and giving Cooper Russia option to
Speaker 1: tuck that thing should he at one the edge. It's
Speaker 1: unfortunate that Noah Brown didn't pick up his block, is
Speaker 1: unfortunate that he didn't throw a completion, But the play
Speaker 1: call is actually a dog on good play call that one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a difficult for me. This is a difficult
Speaker 1: one for me because I see what both of you
Speaker 1: are saying You're right. You don't call plays based on
Speaker 1: your expectation that they'll fail. True, that said, you had
Speaker 1: to that point of the game, you had already seen
Speaker 1: at least two sailed passes from Cooper Rush, some inaccuracies.
Speaker 1: You had seen the interception. He was just not on here.
Speaker 1: So you say you played with scare of money. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you played with scare money. I'm saying
Speaker 1: you played in a success I say you played to
Speaker 1: what's working at any given moment. You played what's working
Speaker 1: at any given moment, and the passing attack what's not
Speaker 1: working to that point in the game. Although the running
Speaker 1: attack was showing some signs with CD open, No it
Speaker 1: was not. CD was on the ground. I just called me.
Speaker 1: He threw it at Peyton Hendershot, who was covered behind
Speaker 1: from behind by half a step. He had a half
Speaker 1: a step on a guy through it to Peyton Hindershot,
Speaker 1: but then there was a linebacker in front of him.
Speaker 1: Threw it on the backside of it. It should have
Speaker 1: been intercepted. Call me milktoast. Okay, and people have and
Speaker 1: they're in my life. But I'm punting. I'm I'm putting
Speaker 1: him building him back I'm resetting with my defense, and
Speaker 1: I'm saying, what's resetting and and and not spot them?
Speaker 1: Three more points that I can tell my coaches give
Speaker 1: me that same play, give me out an I understand,
Speaker 1: and you know what, like you're not cooking Rushta exactly.
Speaker 1: Mike has had a great pulse scopability team extend to play.
Speaker 1: I like the call. I'm not opposed to call. Well,
Speaker 1: he's he's been um, he's done this before, and he
Speaker 1: shows faith in his team and I appreciate it. He
Speaker 1: knows his team and he knows his offense. But in
Speaker 1: that moment, man, but the thing is, like, this is
Speaker 1: the crazy part. I can say, I'll stand behind this.
Speaker 1: It's unfortunate, it didn't work out. It happens. Okay, you
Speaker 1: go for it on fourth, you win some let me
Speaker 1: loose on But it was just like Friday and Pop said,
Speaker 1: you live to see another day. Okay. But the reality
Speaker 1: is if they would have turned around a hand in
Speaker 1: the ball off the zeke and came downhill in Fletcher
Speaker 1: Cox or freaking Jordan Davis would have freaking came into
Speaker 1: it and just molly wapped up, the people would have
Speaker 1: been pissed off. He would be like, oh, you you
Speaker 1: tried to run the ball at these two pel have
Speaker 1: been at that point. I'm more upset with the non
Speaker 1: challenge than I would be with the play call. I hear,
Speaker 1: I'm more upset sliding scale. I'm more upset with the
Speaker 1: challenge me too, because it's the butterfly fick. Right, we're
Speaker 1: not talking about what are called on fourth down. But
Speaker 1: the thing was bothersome was bothersome is you don't not
Speaker 1: challenge with he didn't let me run this back. The
Speaker 1: best way to say this, let's I'm gonna assume because
Speaker 1: we don't know, Okay, but there's a high probability that
Speaker 1: he had all the information that he needed from upstairs
Speaker 1: to make an asserted challenge. Yeah, we've been in those
Speaker 1: boots before. We see the replays. We know how fast
Speaker 1: those things come through TV copies were running replays before
Speaker 1: they even went up there and try to sneak the
Speaker 1: ball or you try to try to run the fourth
Speaker 1: down play, and that's where he's relying on his information
Speaker 1: yet upstairs. Absolutely, Yeah, and so I'm assuming that did
Speaker 1: he come in, Yeah, there must have been some kind
Speaker 1: of technical error, because if I'm the offers a coordinator
Speaker 1: or quality control wherever I'm yelling, hey, challenge, throw the
Speaker 1: dog on flag. We see what you don't see. Throw
Speaker 1: the flag and that's completely fair, which then brings us
Speaker 1: to the fourth down. Play run the ball, don't I'm
Speaker 1: not opposed to the ball. Zeke had number one going
Speaker 1: into the game. We knew that Zeke has often played
Speaker 1: some of his best games in Philadelphia. He was playing
Speaker 1: strong last night. Cowboys kind of got away from the
Speaker 1: run early. We've seen this recipe before. It ended in
Speaker 1: the loss in Tampa against Tampa Bay. It ended in
Speaker 1: the lost in Philadelphia because by the time they got
Speaker 1: to the run, and by the time they started utilizing
Speaker 1: the tight ends, which was which one of my keys
Speaker 1: to success, you got to utilize the tight ends, really
Speaker 1: didn't start making that connection to the third quarter. And
Speaker 1: then when they started making it, it happened mostly on
Speaker 1: one drive and that drive ended in a touchdown. So
Speaker 1: the things that were successful the Cowboys weren't doing in
Speaker 1: the first, first quarter, first half. But in that particular
Speaker 1: moment you talk about milk and toe, run the ball,
Speaker 1: Ryan Anger, kick it to kick it to Maxis. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you you got a little extra spice on yours. But
Speaker 1: a couple of yeah, Pumpkin, there's a couple of extra
Speaker 1: things there too to think about. One, if the replay
Speaker 1: wasn't available, Isaiah, which very well could have been the case,
Speaker 1: how hard is it to just tap the brakes. You
Speaker 1: don't have to go turbo, take the turbo away. You
Speaker 1: don't want to give those guys a chance to su
Speaker 1: up either, because if you are going to do that,
Speaker 1: you don't The last thing you want is Davis car
Speaker 1: Grave and freaking Fletchercox in the game of the sight
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field. So I'm not opposed
Speaker 1: to the to the turbo. I'm not opposed to the
Speaker 1: fourth down call. The flag should have been thrown and
Speaker 1: there's no replay. There's no replay going to be in
Speaker 1: house either because home field demands. It's it's a sac
Speaker 1: the same thing that you see and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna throw this up there on the board
Speaker 1: in Philly, whereas in Dallas they may be like, hurry,
Speaker 1: get it on the bloor. I mean, I look at
Speaker 1: that four down call as the same thing as when
Speaker 1: you get in the red zone and you're down there
Speaker 1: and the go line and teams are like, just run
Speaker 1: the ball, you're one yard away, and then what most
Speaker 1: of the time you see bootleg guys getting out on
Speaker 1: the edge, throwing flat rouse, throwing corners. It's the same
Speaker 1: freaking thing. You had a lot of space out There
Speaker 1: was a lot of opportunities. You just didn't you didn't
Speaker 1: convert on it. For me, it just it really just
Speaker 1: boils down to one thing, and that's the fact that
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush had already shown you that he wasn't having
Speaker 1: a great night and with a critical play like that,
Speaker 1: when a players show if it was you have to
Speaker 1: throw yourself back in the game though, I mean, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that's that was That's the thing,
Speaker 1: like I hear you, and it makes sense. In the
Speaker 1: third quarter, the third quarter, let's talk about that. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about it come on the other side of the break,
Speaker 1: because he did throw himself back into it. But it
Speaker 1: was also the ground game that found a rhythm too.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just the passing game. They got back to
Speaker 1: it on the ground. Ezekiel Elliott had a fantastic game
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Speaker 1: from the Star in Frisco, and the Cowboys fall on
Speaker 1: the road at Philadelphia twenty six to seventeen the final scores.
Speaker 1: That's the first loss for the Cowboys against the divisional
Speaker 1: opponent in nine tries. They had an eight game win
Speaker 1: streak going into that game against the NFC East and
Speaker 1: that came to a close. So did their four game
Speaker 1: winning streak as well. They are now four and two
Speaker 1: on the season. By the way, limited tickets for the
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Speaker 1: at NT Stadium. So we left the first segment talking
Speaker 1: about how Dallas got back in it, and that's the
Speaker 1: back end of Patrick's so called compliments sandwich, right, compliments,
Speaker 1: compliment sandwich? Is it a burger? Is it a sandwich?
Speaker 1: I mean it's a burger and this one a Pritzel book.
Speaker 1: Oh that's really nice, Okay, So compliment sandwich. The back
Speaker 1: end of it was the fact that they fought their
Speaker 1: way back into him twenty to seventeen. You had a
Speaker 1: chance for your defense whose elite level, to come up
Speaker 1: and make a stop, and you didn't get it. But
Speaker 1: I want to talk about how they got to that
Speaker 1: point in the first place. And Isaiah, you and I
Speaker 1: were kind of talking with Patrick in the break about
Speaker 1: the situation at hand. Philly got away from themselves and
Speaker 1: Dallas took advantage, Yes, very much. So how did that
Speaker 1: happen with the RPO? It looked like the reads just
Speaker 1: said pass and Dallas was more ready for it in
Speaker 1: the third quarter. Yeah, I think I don't think Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts had his best game. Honestly, he left a lot
Speaker 1: of freaking meat on the bone. Dallas fans, I can
Speaker 1: say whatever you want to about it, but he could
Speaker 1: have been a lot worse. I mean, as stat it
Speaker 1: could have been a lot worse because there's a lot
Speaker 1: of reason he was running just I don't know what
Speaker 1: he was looking at him. How you heard me yelling
Speaker 1: in the dog in room, like what are you doing?
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Bro? Like there's so many times
Speaker 1: he should have pulled it. So many times you should
Speaker 1: have pulled it in through it. I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of opportunities out there that Dallas were susceptible too.
Speaker 1: But ultimately, you know, I think this officer coordinator for Philly,
Speaker 1: he showed it all year. You're right, Rob Peter in
Speaker 1: the break in terms of saying that they haven't been
Speaker 1: a second half team. Whenever they have had leads, they
Speaker 1: seemingly get away from what's got them to actually having
Speaker 1: the lead, and then when Dallas got close, they're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go back to what was working, and then they
Speaker 1: were just unstoppable again. So I think it was I
Speaker 1: don't you know, I love Dan Quinn, you know, I
Speaker 1: love this defense. I think it was more Philly pulling
Speaker 1: off the gas more so than it was Dallas being
Speaker 1: that effective defensively. Not to take anything away from them,
Speaker 1: I just think that Philly had a complete control of
Speaker 1: that game for the most part, and there was no
Speaker 1: signs that they could ever be stopped if they truly
Speaker 1: just wanted to go and just keep beating it down
Speaker 1: to Blue. And I know that's I know, I know
Speaker 1: the real Dennis Greenish after seeing this game. The Eagles
Speaker 1: are who we thought they were. If you want to
Speaker 1: crown him, crown him, but they are who we thought
Speaker 1: they were. We mentioned this going into into the game,
Speaker 1: and this was one of my my points of science.
Speaker 1: Jalen hurts as a as a passer man. Uh and
Speaker 1: and he showed me that, I mean before he finally
Speaker 1: threw that touchdown later in the game to kind of
Speaker 1: seal the deal for the Eagles. He only had like
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty five hundred and twenty yards passing
Speaker 1: and no touchdowns. The thing was he had no interceptions,
Speaker 1: so he was playing mistake free football to that point,
Speaker 1: no fumble, he still had one hundred plus passer rating,
Speaker 1: but he was fifteen. You know how passer rating is calculated,
Speaker 1: it's it's the efficiency of yea and no errors also
Speaker 1: boosts the passer rating. Russians right, it was one point zero,
Speaker 1: one point zero at Rushes was one point zero. He
Speaker 1: had more interceptions than his interception TALLI was higher than
Speaker 1: his passer rating. You can't win like that now kind
Speaker 1: of And I'm going to circle back in the jump
Speaker 1: back in this lane. Kudos to Cooper Rush for showing
Speaker 1: the R word again, resiliency. He used his tight ends
Speaker 1: up catch by critical catch by Sean mcwan, critical catch
Speaker 1: by Payton Hendershot critical catch and touchdown later in you
Speaker 1: know that quarter by Jake Ferguson. Can we talk about
Speaker 1: that one real quick because I was sick? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: can't really quickly before we veer back over. You have
Speaker 1: one point zero passer rating at the half, two interceptions,
Speaker 1: and that leads to a time of possession in favor
Speaker 1: of the Eagles by nine minutes and thirty five seconds.
Speaker 1: That was quite indicative of how the game was likely
Speaker 1: going to end. The Cowboys could fight back, and they
Speaker 1: probably would fight back, but you're asking a lot of
Speaker 1: a defense to keep holding them, keep holding them, and
Speaker 1: keep holding them. And the damn broke in. There was
Speaker 1: the touchdown. But Jalen Hurts, he showed me that, you know,
Speaker 1: he is what we thought it was. He can run
Speaker 1: the ball, try to contain The Cowboys mostly did well
Speaker 1: and containing him mostly on the ground. But this was
Speaker 1: such a winnable game even if you take a way
Speaker 1: just one of those interceptions, if you take away two
Speaker 1: of those critical errors like the one by Dante Fowler,
Speaker 1: the Neutrals only fraction that yielded points, Look how much
Speaker 1: it My bottom line is this And I thought over
Speaker 1: you did come you said, this is a winnable game.
Speaker 1: It absolutely this was a winnable game. If you give up,
Speaker 1: if you have seven critical errors that ultimately awards the
Speaker 1: other team twenty of their twenty six points. It tells
Speaker 1: me it was a winnable game, because I think it
Speaker 1: because that game, right, it took that much to happen
Speaker 1: for you to lose on the road. It's winnable if
Speaker 1: you play it your way that's been working and you
Speaker 1: don't make any mistakes at all, or at least minimized.
Speaker 1: If you take away one or two of those mistakes,
Speaker 1: it was a three point game. That's my point. That's
Speaker 1: my point. Isay it keeps looking up and seeing twenty
Speaker 1: to nothing, which I understand. You can't spot a undefeated
Speaker 1: team on the road. It's twenty points. It's hard to play.
Speaker 1: It's people are gonna think it sounds like like whatever,
Speaker 1: but it's hard playing didn't impress me. And unless you
Speaker 1: unless you have a coordinator that is willing to put
Speaker 1: his foot on your throat and drive you into the
Speaker 1: freaking ground, most teams end up giving up leads and
Speaker 1: they allowed to game to get a little bit close,
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh crap, we should probably start playing
Speaker 1: again and they put their foot and you put your
Speaker 1: foot back down. You know what I'm saying. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that you can see what Dallas was just dominant
Speaker 1: during that period of time, or you can say that
Speaker 1: Philly let up. It doesn't well, I don't care what
Speaker 1: side of the table you are this game. When you
Speaker 1: looked up in the first part, it was fifteen minutes
Speaker 1: of possession to five at one point in time. That
Speaker 1: could have easily been that way in the entire game
Speaker 1: had he been that killer instinct. Dallas was never in
Speaker 1: control of this game. I don't care what emotions you
Speaker 1: want to feel. You can feel all Sweden Danny and
Speaker 1: say oh we were close, we had a No, this
Speaker 1: game was dominated by Philadelphia. And you you take this
Speaker 1: film and you take your freaking tuzz them. You put
Speaker 1: it on the bottom of your tongue and you take
Speaker 1: it to take the shot to the head, and you
Speaker 1: remember this for the next time you play them. But
Speaker 1: they dominated you in this game. Here's what I'm saying. No,
Speaker 1: they did not. You lost this game. They didn't win
Speaker 1: this game. And when column is going to say what
Speaker 1: it does, but that's the thing. Teams can win games
Speaker 1: or they can get wins because the opposing team lost
Speaker 1: the game. This is a situation where the Cowboys lost
Speaker 1: this game. If this were the Buffalo Bills and you
Speaker 1: spotted them twenty to zero at the half, do you
Speaker 1: think Josh Allen and that offense would have only finished
Speaker 1: with twenty six to seventeen final You mean to tell
Speaker 1: me that the Eagles let up after seeing the Cowboys
Speaker 1: go from twenty to zero to twenty to ten and
Speaker 1: then twenty to seventeen before they woke back up. No,
Speaker 1: what it tells me is this team is very overrated.
Speaker 1: This isn't taken away from the fact that they got
Speaker 1: the three takeaways and so forth. Fine, you won the game,
Speaker 1: kudos to you. My main takeaway here, though, is based
Speaker 1: upon the film that was now created by Philadelphia against
Speaker 1: this Cowboys defense. It tells me that the Eagles require
Speaker 1: multiple critical errors by the Cowboys in order to win
Speaker 1: the game against a backup quarterback. By the time they
Speaker 1: play again on Christmas Eve, we keep talking about how
Speaker 1: these other teams, oh, this won't be the same team
Speaker 1: later in the season. And as I stated that logic,
Speaker 1: if it applies to the Apple, it applies to the Orange.
Speaker 1: This Cowboys team doesn't have its QB one and when
Speaker 1: it gets QB one back, Let's say he has a
Speaker 1: couple of hiccups against the Lions. If he plays in
Speaker 1: the Bears, but he maybe hits his stride most likely
Speaker 1: November December. This is not the same team they'll face.
Speaker 1: But they have on film that Jalen Hursts is exceedingly
Speaker 1: one dimensional. They have on film that this Philadelphia offense
Speaker 1: is not explosive. If you have if you would have
Speaker 1: spotted the Buffalo Bills twenty points, you would have lost
Speaker 1: this game fifty six to three. That's the difference between
Speaker 1: a championship caliber team offense like you see in Buffalo,
Speaker 1: and a team that's just taking advantage of the other
Speaker 1: team making mistakes. In Philadelphia. I agree and disagree with
Speaker 1: with you guys, because because I feel like I had
Speaker 1: to go back and watch the second half, I didn't
Speaker 1: feel like Philly let up. I think Lane Johnson getting
Speaker 1: hurt had a big impact to their protection and they
Speaker 1: finally were able to get to him. But I think
Speaker 1: this offense, I don't think Philly's overrated either. I think
Speaker 1: their offense is so hard to play against, and it's
Speaker 1: and it has a way the way it's designed is
Speaker 1: makes it so difficult for Michael Parsons to be Michael
Speaker 1: Parsons because they NBC did a great job of showing it.
Speaker 1: They made him choose constantly what to do. Like I
Speaker 1: think Collins words said at one point, they're not even
Speaker 1: blocking him, They're just putting him in a situation where
Speaker 1: what do I do? I got to choose, He's got
Speaker 1: to choose. And that was very challenging for the Cowboys defense.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be challenging for every team that plays this
Speaker 1: Eagles offense. And I'm with no see on the fact
Speaker 1: that that Jalen Hurts will leave things on the table,
Speaker 1: he'll misthrows, but he's got such a good group around
Speaker 1: him he didn't have to be perfect because they've got
Speaker 1: such great weapons and a great offensive line. And that
Speaker 1: being said, was really impressed with the way Dallas fought
Speaker 1: back on both sides of the ball. Like to me,
Speaker 1: I didn't see it Isaiah as Philly letting up so
Speaker 1: much as I just think Dallas is a good team
Speaker 1: and they woke up a little bit. But I think
Speaker 1: the better team won last night. I really do. And
Speaker 1: I think when Dad gets back, I think this thing
Speaker 1: evens out because on this particular night, the way I
Speaker 1: think the better team won, I agree with that. So,
Speaker 1: going kind of along the same lines as Rob, I
Speaker 1: agree with both of you guys in a sense. I
Speaker 1: agree with Patrick in the sense that Dallas had a
Speaker 1: chance to win that game. I agree and you and
Speaker 1: the fact, but they never had control of that chance.
Speaker 1: They had a chance. That chance was when they were
Speaker 1: down by three. Your defense on the field, a full
Speaker 1: field for Philly to go and drive. And what did
Speaker 1: Philly do? They went eleven straight run plays. They ran
Speaker 1: the ball eleven straight times, and then they decided to
Speaker 1: put it in the air. One to A J. Brown.
Speaker 1: He breaks a tackle, actually two tackles, goes up and
Speaker 1: tied the five yard line. Then the next play are
Speaker 1: po jal touchdowns were off our pos. It's a pain
Speaker 1: in the ass kill. It totally is. So there's the
Speaker 1: thing that Dallas Cowboys dot Com has is called the
Speaker 1: pregame Live and um there was a gentleman by named
Speaker 1: Isaiah Stammack and Barry Church that kind of went over this.
Speaker 1: If you guys want to go back, we kind of
Speaker 1: went over this and described the issues that they were
Speaker 1: going to present to Michael Parsons. We broke this down
Speaker 1: like in a complete walkthrough. And then there was something
Speaker 1: else that was said earlier in the week about how
Speaker 1: these guys are going to run the ball. This is
Speaker 1: gonna be the team. I don't know who said it,
Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy to due with dreads, but probably Nate, Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably Nate, but you said said that, yeahsibly, most likely Jesse,
Speaker 1: but said that they were gonna this is gonna be
Speaker 1: the real test for our rush, our rushing defense, and
Speaker 1: that these guys were going to be diligent and they're
Speaker 1: a pursuit to run the ball, and then they're gonna
Speaker 1: run it so effectively that you freaking forget that they
Speaker 1: have these receivers out there. You forgot, You freaking forgot.
Speaker 1: So there is no point in the game that you
Speaker 1: could point to and say, yeah, we're about to win
Speaker 1: this game. You can't sit up here and say that.
Speaker 1: So to say that Dallas had a chance to win
Speaker 1: this game, yeah, you had a chance before you stepped
Speaker 1: on the field too, But you can't sit up here
Speaker 1: and say at any point in the game that you
Speaker 1: felt confident that you're gonna win this game. No fan
Speaker 1: can say that, no analysts, no fan, no coach. Philly
Speaker 1: controlled this game. In that last drive, you knew Philly
Speaker 1: was going to drive the ball down there, and there
Speaker 1: is nothing that Dallas can do. I'm sorry, that's just
Speaker 1: the reality. You can make your sup, patch yourself on
Speaker 1: the back, make yourself feel better. All you want to
Speaker 1: come back better next time, But this game last night,
Speaker 1: Philly controlled that whole game. I don't care what the
Speaker 1: scoreboard shows. So let's take our second break when we
Speaker 1: come back and how much off? Yeah, I know, how
Speaker 1: much does Dak Prescott change things moving forward? And if
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Speaker 1: But Dak Prescott potentially making his return, Rob you said
Speaker 1: it earlier in the show, just the way that he
Speaker 1: looked pregame felt pretty good about it, right, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean just reading off with no seed and the guys
Speaker 1: were tweeting up there. That was a extensive workout, right,
Speaker 1: and the spirals were tight. He had some zip on it. Um.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't let him throw anything much longer than twenty
Speaker 1: so you know, twenty twenty one ish, twenty two ish, um,
Speaker 1: but fifty throws, uh to my account, into McCarthy's count,
Speaker 1: and he was also dropping some dots as well, you know,
Speaker 1: back shoulder fades, back of the end zone, pylon. Um.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the only thing we didn't see were the
Speaker 1: longer throws, which you know just goes to him not
Speaker 1: being game ready at that time. Yeah, but yeah, the
Speaker 1: zip is there. He was. He was ripping it, right,
Speaker 1: he ripping. I think what we're seeing is is they're
Speaker 1: they're executing the plan that they've had in place all long,
Speaker 1: and we've speculated week to week, but you give him
Speaker 1: a little work last week. Mike has said all along
Speaker 1: full week of practice. I think they've been pointing to
Speaker 1: this week in the last couple of weeks, and and
Speaker 1: if all goes well, yeah, I think we'll probably see him.
Speaker 1: I think we will see him. Everything Yet that happened yesterday.
Speaker 1: I just kept replaying what Rob was saying on Friday
Speaker 1: and his predictions. In my head, this is a game
Speaker 1: where you wish you had Dak Prescott because you were
Speaker 1: playing from behind and you needed somebody to come and
Speaker 1: throw you back into a ball game. I still picked
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and he still picked the Cowboys. That's fun.
Speaker 1: But you said it, you said, this is a game
Speaker 1: where you have a feeling that they're going to have
Speaker 1: wanted Dak Prescott. They now now they want Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: Everybody wants Dak Prescott back. He's back and ready to go.
Speaker 1: How much of a difference does he make against Detroit
Speaker 1: this week. Well, there's certain instances where I've been saying
Speaker 1: for weeks, I just think he's a better football player.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand that. I didn't think it was a
Speaker 1: discussion to begin with with him and Rush. Sure, there
Speaker 1: are certain plays in the game last night where you like,
Speaker 1: we talked about the fourth down call. Dak's mobility would
Speaker 1: have helped on that play. There's throws that Rush left
Speaker 1: on the field. Now, I will say the one his
Speaker 1: third interception, where he probably could have been a roughing call.
Speaker 1: If it was a week ago. The league might have
Speaker 1: called that a roughing call, and they didn't. That's not
Speaker 1: why they lost the game. But I didn't give. I
Speaker 1: didn't say in my mind, well that's a bad throw
Speaker 1: by Rush. I think he got crushed on that play.
Speaker 1: But um, Dak's arm talent is different. I think he
Speaker 1: can make more throws down the field, and I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna get more receivers involved. And that's again that's
Speaker 1: no disrespect to Cooper Rush. But Dak is the guy
Speaker 1: for a reason. Yeah, I say, what do you think swag? Well,
Speaker 1: all right, Patrick, what are you? I'm no, I think
Speaker 1: I mean Dak just brings a different energy. I mean
Speaker 1: that is what it is. I mean everything that Rob said,
Speaker 1: plus his swag and the confidence that you have when
Speaker 1: you look at him. You know, you look at Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush as a manager. You look at Dak as somebody
Speaker 1: hook him when you ball James. That's just it's just
Speaker 1: two different two different categories. Yeah, and facts, not much
Speaker 1: to add to that. Cooper Rush. He did everything that
Speaker 1: he was supposed to do again, Cooper Rush, you know,
Speaker 1: excellent job. Thank you for your service, um. But it's
Speaker 1: time for QB one. And the difference is the type
Speaker 1: of leadership that Dak provides it. It's just it's this
Speaker 1: heated passion that you're going to see come out as
Speaker 1: soon as he gets back on the field, and hopefully
Speaker 1: that'll be as quick as soon as this Sunday, and
Speaker 1: it looks like it might be. Do you think if
Speaker 1: these two teams played again tomorrow? Who would win? If
Speaker 1: they played again tomorrow? Well, I'll even back it up
Speaker 1: just so Dak Prescott's ready and we know he's good
Speaker 1: to go. If you play again in week seven, do
Speaker 1: you think that the Cowboys have a chance to win it? Yes, Isaiah, No,
Speaker 1: not not ready yet yet. Okay, you mean him coming
Speaker 1: fresh off the injury? Fresh? Yeah? Sure, why not? Fresh
Speaker 1: off the injury. I think it's a closer game. I
Speaker 1: think I think you can still argue, Yeah, you hop
Speaker 1: over the fence when you stay on one this side. Well,
Speaker 1: we haven't seen this offense with dak In in a month.
Speaker 1: But I do I think. I think it's a much
Speaker 1: closer game last night. If he plays I just do
Speaker 1: if he if he played perfect, he wouldn't have to
Speaker 1: play perfect. He would just have to not throw three interceptions.
Speaker 1: And I don't think that he would. And I think
Speaker 1: because he wouldn't throw three, give him one. Say he
Speaker 1: throws one interception, Cowboys win this game. And this hypothetical
Speaker 1: I made it up. I think Dallas wins just because
Speaker 1: it's because it's my hypothetical, and I say what I want.
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