1 00:00:01,760 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida, 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: JP Shadwick and Jeff Logoman. Keep you informed in up 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: to date with the head coach of Jorge Jacksonville Jaguars. 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show starts right now. 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: Welcome in The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: Florida from the Hyundai Studios at the Miller Electric Center. 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: We're on the Jaguars Radio Network, presented by the University 8 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 2: of Florida, number one university in the US News and 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: World Reports, number one state for education. JP Shadrick with 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: Jeff Logoman, we'll have the head coach, Liam Cohen. At 11 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: the start of the regular season, and now for the 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: second consecutive week. Just in the nick of time, Tony Vasselli, 13 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 2: James Gladstone in studio with us. It was so popular 14 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 2: last week we had to do it again. Tony. 15 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 3: Two rules, Jp, we have two rules in this organization. 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 3: What are the two rules? 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: Names close to the mic? 18 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 4: James, please, I know one thing. I'm looking at the 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 4: clocket's five oh one. Neither of us were on time. 20 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: I saw you. 21 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: I got in at five zero zero with the one 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: right after I sat down. 23 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 4: I apologize. 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: I got respectful. I crossed the line in fairness. 25 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 3: I'll accept the fine and fairness not making excuses. The 26 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 3: reality is both of us were in meetings that went 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 3: a little bit long. The day brings curveballs every once 28 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 3: in a while, and so we were sprinting down here 29 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: as fast as we. 30 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: Could, almost like prediction. Know that you guys were not 31 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: going to be right on time today. So I was 32 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: I was right. 33 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 4: You know, one of our one of our one of 34 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 4: the challenges that we were going to do. We've been 35 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 4: talking about, Hey, what what can we actually face each 36 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 4: other in physical competitions, and one of them was going 37 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 4: to be speed walking. 38 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: I saw you. I don't know, those strides are notable. 39 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 3: So I don't know if. 40 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: When you start having challenges involving speed wall I lost 41 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 2: the first one after basketball. He definitely had so as 42 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: a player, we used to have like a kangaroo court, right, 43 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 2: I mean you had it to Tony where you would 44 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 2: have fines in the ding room, in the lot posed 45 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 2: locker room. Fine, you guys, between the three of you, you, 46 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 2: you guys and Liam, do you guys have a little 47 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: fine pot. 48 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: Well, there's a it's not really a fine pot, but 49 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 3: you will catch there's a barbs thrown constantly across the 50 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: table for any activity that we deem the other two 51 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: deem is unacceptable. 52 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 4: And usually whatever nickname gets attached to somebody hangs on 53 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 4: for about a week. 54 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's, you know, Jeff, the closest thing I can 55 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: compare it to. It's much like the locker room. Yeah, 56 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 3: you kind of should be police yourself and uh and 57 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 3: take care of business and get the job done. And 58 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: if you don't, you're gonna feel the pain. 59 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, you to hear about it. At least I remember 60 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 2: in the like when I was in New York, we 61 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: had some of our biggest pots, you know, we had 62 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 2: if you had a mental air in practice, got fined 63 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 2: and it was just in the. 64 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: Room, you know, and you've played defense. 65 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 2: Outside the big Some of some guys Tony don't learn 66 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 2: very well, you know, some do. So we had fines 67 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: for all of that stuff. You know. If you were 68 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: late for something, or if you passed gas in a 69 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: meeting room. You know, that made guys suffer. You got fined. 70 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 2: And at the end of the year we would have 71 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: a big party. Let's have a dinner and drinks and 72 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: memos and all that kind of stuff. 73 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 4: The elective effort. 74 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: Ye, you would make guys focus, But I think the 75 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: end of the year we usually had around four or 76 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: five grand Wow, you we had really all these mental 77 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: airs and we spent all of that on I bet 78 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: you did, and drinks. I bet you did. First two 79 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 2: padded practice days are in the books, James. What did 80 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: you find out reviewing it after the fact about this team? 81 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 4: You know, I think it reveals a lot. You know, 82 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 4: once the pads start popping, you get an understanding for 83 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 4: the players, the position groups who are built for that setting. 84 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: And you know, at this stage has been phenomenal to 85 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 4: see the progression of our offensive line. Right obviously throughout 86 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 4: the off season program, no pads are on. It's not 87 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 4: true football, It's it's a lot of above the neck 88 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 4: sort of focus. It's a lot of mental demands that 89 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 4: show up. And now that the physical demands are increasing, 90 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 4: you'd like for those mas to not start a surface 91 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 4: at a significant level, and that hadn't been the case. 92 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 4: And you know, the physicality has shown itself, and you 93 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 4: know the the groups are playing connected, even though there 94 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 4: are some moving parts. It's really starting to shape into 95 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 4: what we all know the offensive line to be and 96 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,239 Speaker 4: that's a collective effort, just like you know, the guys 97 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 4: who were filling the piggybank, so to. 98 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: Speak in the media. Uh. 99 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 4: It has truly shown some real progression and I think 100 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 4: that's one of the highlights so far throughout the first 101 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 4: a half dozen on field sessions and training camp, and 102 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 4: look forward to seeing that continue to progress in the 103 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 4: way that we have. 104 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: I'm sure Tony you were watching those guys real close 105 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 2: from Monday and Tuesday, because I was watching them close. 106 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: Well, actually, Jeff, I was watching the corners. You're hanging 107 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: out specialists. This kicker is really cool to see how 108 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 3: Cam was kicking it off the side. Didn't notice anything 109 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 3: about the offense defensive line at all. Uh No, obviously. Uh. 110 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: You know it's early and I think we all know this. 111 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 3: The key is just to take it one day at 112 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 3: a time and not get too high too low, because 113 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: we are in the early innings of this whole process 114 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 3: of evaluation. But to start off, I echo what James said, 115 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 3: and I think the thing I was most pleased with 116 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: across the board for our team is the competitive nature 117 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: and the work ethic. You know, you get the pads on. Jeff, 118 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 3: you and I both know that first day in pads 119 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: is tough. You don't feel right. I just don't feel right, 120 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 3: feel uncomfortable. You haven't put these things on for you 121 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: to get formed up a little bit, and uh, and 122 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: sometimes it can be messy early, especially on the offense 123 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 3: side of the ball. And I thought, really, both sides 124 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 3: of the ball did a great job. I think it's 125 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 3: a testament to our coaches in the preparation and the 126 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 3: work our guys did in the meeting rooms. And I 127 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 3: thought the competitive nature stood out to me. And then 128 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: specifically on the O and D line, probably as physical 129 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 3: as I've seen us be in a while. And I 130 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 3: heard that from multiple people, and that's you know, I'm 131 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 3: not saying anything one way or another about how things 132 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 3: went in the past, but one of the things that's 133 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 3: been emphasized by Liam and the staff is, hey, we're 134 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 3: going to be a tough, physical team. And it's not perfect. 135 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 3: It's you know, there's a lot to clean up, but 136 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,599 Speaker 3: you can see the strain and the effort of guys working, 137 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: and that's finish and the finish and that's all. And 138 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 3: that's just not for our own d line. I mean, 139 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 3: I think watching our receivers, Uh, I'll highlight a guy 140 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: like Parker Washington's you know, fighting you know, to have 141 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 3: a prominent role in our passing game, and the guy 142 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: who came on strong last year. But you know, what 143 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 3: was asked of him last year in the run game 144 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: is much different than what's asked now. And uh, and 145 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: seeing him get in there and mix it up. We 146 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 3: saw it again today. You know, him and Jordan Lewis 147 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 3: competing and one day, one play you got Parker winning, 148 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 3: the next play, Jordan Lewis winning. And but overall, just 149 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: the strain in the effort to go do what they're 150 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 3: being asked to do. And that's I think that's all 151 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: you can ask. Do we need to get better, absolutely, 152 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: Do we need to clean things up, absolutely, But can't 153 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 3: question the guy's effort, can't question their strain and the 154 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 3: physicality that we're asking. 155 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 2: I know that one of the guys that used to 156 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: be a personnel guy for a very long time, and 157 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: you guys probably remember James Shaq Harris, you know he 158 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 2: started this thing. He said, he said, let's uh, let's 159 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: not get a speeding ticket here, you know, getting ahead 160 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: of ourselves and too excited and all that. But you 161 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: know in the media, I can do that. I'm allowed 162 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: to do that. It's called wisdom. Yes, there's a couple 163 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: of guys that I just loved and watching the first 164 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 2: two days of pads. Fred Johnson when he gets when 165 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 2: he gets pumped up and fired up, he's gonna knock 166 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 2: somebody about ten yards across the side of the field. 167 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: I mean, he's just a big man. Wyatt Blom physical 168 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: finishes to the echo of the whistle nearly every time. 169 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 2: Ezra Cleveland. Nobody's talking about Ezra and he's been having 170 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 2: as good of a camp as any offensive lineman. And 171 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: Toon Harrison, I don't know how the channel are you 172 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 2: got challenge or what, but from OTA's to now, he 173 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 2: looks like a different player. I mean, there's guys that 174 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: are standing out and making you notice, you know, and 175 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 2: I appreciate that. 176 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 3: Right, the credit's got to go around. 177 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 4: It's got to go to the players who are embracing 178 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 4: new mode operation, new standards, and it goes to a 179 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 4: coaching staff who's holding those and so it's a collective effort, 180 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 4: and you know, it's going to take everybody to bring 181 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 4: this thing to continue to create the identity that is 182 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 4: going to be the twenty twenty five Jacksonville Jaguars, and 183 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 4: that's starting to show itself a little bit more each 184 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 4: and every day. But even beyond that, right, you got 185 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 4: to appreciate the volume of hands that touch a ball 186 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 4: carrier from the defensive side right and even extended down 187 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 4: the field when some of these pop off, you know, 188 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 4: the urgency to pursue from the backside corner is there 189 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 4: on a consistent basis. 190 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: Three is a great example. That's a great example. 191 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 3: That's exactly right. 192 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 2: And when you got veteran guys that do it right, 193 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 2: like that with Tyson Campbell, because you know what you're 194 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: talking about. If you've got to play that's on the 195 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 2: let's say, defensive left side of the field and Tyson's 196 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 2: the right corner and he's running all the way down 197 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 2: the field forty yards to get a touch on the 198 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 2: running back. I mean, that's the example. I mean having 199 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: guys do that, that's that's more important than a coach 200 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 2: sitting there saying, hey, let's finish that's right. 201 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: You know a perfect example of that. I think he 202 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: was what. 203 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,439 Speaker 2: Day is it? Thursday? 204 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 3: On Tuesday? Uh, there was a play and Josh Heines 205 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 3: Allens is dropping into his flat coverage. It's his own bitch, 206 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 3: you know. Assimilation on the other side of the ball, 207 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 3: and a great route by Brenton Strange and just a 208 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 3: just a bbe buy uh great and offensively you're like, 209 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 3: I'm watching it, like great execution Brenton's doing, trying to 210 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 3: split the defenders. And from the backside here comes Josh 211 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 3: Heines aumd full speed punching the ball out, ball on 212 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 3: the ground, defense picks up, goes the other way it takes. 213 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 4: The play is that everybody gets a chance to learn 214 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 4: from something and everybody gets a chance to celebrate something. 215 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: Right. 216 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 4: That's a rep where both sides of the ball have 217 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 4: something to point out with the plus and something to 218 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 4: point out with the minus. Those are some critical reps 219 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 4: along the way here throughout training camp. 220 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 2: Plenty more ahead, just getting started. What we have you 221 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: for thirty minutes thirty thirty thirty from now, it's just 222 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 2: like just like that. 223 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 3: That means half the hour. 224 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 2: Three It could be like three hours. It could be 225 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 2: back in a moment. This se Liam Cohen Show and 226 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,479 Speaker 2: the Jaguars Radio Network. 227 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back The Liam Cohen Show. Presented by Fresh from Florida. 228 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 1: Continues right now. 229 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 2: Welcome back, Yes, the Liam Cohen Show presented by Fresh 230 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: from Florida. We'll have the head coach the start of 231 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: the regular season, Jap Shadwick, Jeff Logoman, Tony Busselli, James 232 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: Gladstone and Studio with us live. Second week in a row. 233 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 2: We can just make this a weekly like a year long. Tony, 234 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: come on, man, like I know you miss it over. 235 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 4: You give an inch, they take a mile, you know, 236 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 4: they they they We've talked a lot about that. 237 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 3: It's been you know, it's been the day comment or 238 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 3: the proverbial day has been a theme we've hit on here. 239 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: How so because they is you? 240 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: It's me? 241 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 3: No, they is you. Because people always blame they did this, 242 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 3: or they made me do this, or they made this 243 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 3: decision or whatever. And the message really is in a 244 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 3: high functioning team and organization is take the responsibility. They 245 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: is you. 246 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: I need to do this, I need to do that. 247 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: I get to do this like this is an opportunity, 248 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 3: get better. 249 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 2: Discreet the Scrimmage tomorrow nights join us inside every Bank Stadium, 250 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: free parking lots, B, C, D, E, J, N, S 251 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: and tailgaters starting at four o'clock. What are you laughing at? 252 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I just asked my mother in law. 253 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 2: Please, I love you. 254 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 3: Your story inspired. 255 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 2: Us gates opening five tomorrow. By the way, By the way, 256 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: that information is available on Jaguars dot com. Yeah, because 257 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 2: that's an alphabet soupo of information. Well, if I could finish, 258 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: it'd be great. Scrimmage shirts is seven o'clock. Free admission 259 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 2: at Jaguars dot com Slash Training Camp. 260 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit about what they're gonna It's 261 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 3: gonna be a fun night, so hopefully a lot of 262 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 3: fans will come out and and uh it will be 263 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: a mock game full speed. We won't be tackling, but 264 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 3: it's gonna be a physical practice and uh a lot 265 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 3: of situational but it will be full pads, full go 266 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 3: seeing all our guys out there, and uh a lot 267 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: of all of our rookies. So it's a good it's 268 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: a good opportunity for all of our fans to get 269 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 3: a first glimpse look before we suit it up for 270 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 3: the Pittsburgh Steelers in preseason game number one. 271 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: I like the idea of simulating a game as close 272 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 2: to possible, especially because this is also a great exercise 273 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: not just for the players, their new rookies, et cetera. Yeah, 274 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 2: but you got a new coaching staff, a new staff overall, 275 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: to let everybody kind of assimilated into the way things 276 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 2: are gonna be once the regular season starts. 277 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 4: The mechanics of the game is something that has to 278 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 4: be considered, and obviously it gives everybody who's new to 279 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 4: this space and opportunity to see what it might look like. 280 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 4: And even for those who have been involved with it 281 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 4: operationally in the past, because of some of the modifications 282 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 4: in the stadium, it's not the exact same. So to 283 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 4: be able to get a walk through is certainly going 284 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 4: to help alleviate some of the natural stressors that come 285 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 4: with doing something for the first time. 286 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, so we'll go all the way through from the 287 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: very beginning of warm up. You know, the sequence of 288 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 3: the players coming out to warm up, go through a 289 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: warm up stretch, go back into the locker room, come 290 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 3: back out. National anthem coin toss. 291 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 2: When you say locker room, that's the one that's used 292 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 2: in the State. The State the game walk not here, 293 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: it's a Miller Center. 294 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 3: Now it will all be abbreviated, so it's not like 295 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 3: a full forty five forty minute pregame, whatever the timeframe 296 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: is at. And in the twelve minutes in the locker room, 297 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 3: everything's cut down like three minutes, like just to get 298 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 3: the just to go through the go through the motions, 299 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 3: to understand as the players like this is how because 300 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 3: you know every team stretches a little bit different. Every 301 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: team has a little bit of a different cadence to 302 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: the pregame warm up. Coaches will be in the booth 303 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 3: on headsets, so I'll be their first opportunity for the 304 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: staff to get in the booth, get comfortable with the surroundings, 305 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 3: get the communication. So it'll be a full operation. And 306 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: I think it's also good for our stadium operation, our business. Obviously, 307 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: everyone knows a lot of constructions going over there and 308 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 3: test out everything, make sure everything's running well, and so 309 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 3: that when we kick it off in the preseason against 310 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 3: the Steelers, it's a great It's a great environment for 311 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 3: our players, for our coaches, but also for our fans 312 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 3: to come in and see the team. 313 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 2: Where are you guys gonna be like on game day? 314 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: Figure this out. 315 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 4: We've spent time talking about it and we will remain agile. 316 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 3: We're open to suggestions and. 317 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: The scrimmage, Johnny, Look, you guys have a lot of flexibility. 318 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, scrimmage. We're joking. During the regular season, James and 319 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 3: I will sit up and in one of the wherever 320 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 3: there's an open spy up for us to sit and 321 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,119 Speaker 3: watch the game in a quiet space and to communicate 322 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 3: and watch it. Uh. During the you know, obviously during 323 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: a real game. For the for the mock mock game, 324 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: the scrimmage on Friday night, we've bantered back and forth. 325 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: We've not quite decided exactly where whether we're gonna watch 326 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 3: it on the field, we go up in the booth 327 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 3: to watch it. 328 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: Got umbrella drinks on your balcony? You got them over 329 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: there too. 330 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, umbrella. I'm hoping we won't need any umbrella drinks. Uh. No, 331 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 3: we we haven't decided for the mock game, but we'll 332 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 3: be up in the press box area, whether it's a 333 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 3: sweet right next to the press box or one of 334 00:16:55,880 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: the empty Again, I know I did not just trying 335 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: to get him back, James. 336 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 2: He's just checking you guys. 337 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 3: Got it A lot can do? Man, more you can do. 338 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I know, you just because you have to 339 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 3: work more this year, because it's just. 340 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: More works, same pay. We're what week and a half 341 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: into a training camp, taking a look at Liam Cohen's 342 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 2: operation so far on a day to day basis, how 343 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: he interacts with the players, coaching staff, operates practice. James, 344 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: what stands out the most about the head coach? 345 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 4: You know, one thing that has remained a constant is 346 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 4: the standards that he holds true and firm, and you 347 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 4: know that's a refreshing piece to to it all. But also, 348 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 4: you know, one of his superpowers, and it's really shining through, 349 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 4: is his ability to tap into feel and instincts and 350 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 4: gut and you know that's how he is as a 351 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 4: play caller. He gets into a flow, he reads the game, 352 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 4: he reads the pulse of our players, the pulse of 353 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 4: the opponents, and he does that in a lot of 354 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 4: the practice settings that you know, our fans have had 355 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 4: the chance to see here, right, he saw in an 356 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 4: early practice where we cut one segment short because it 357 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 4: was operating at a high tick. It was one of 358 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 4: those days where you know, it's it's easy to fall 359 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 4: victim to Wow, everything's rolling and I'm not even thinking 360 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 4: outside what this script on the sheet of papers is 361 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 4: telling me that I planned for. Instead, he's able to 362 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 4: zoom out and actually take into consideration a lot of 363 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 4: the other variables dynamics at play and be able to 364 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 4: adjust remain agile like Tony and I will be as 365 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 4: it relates to where we're going to sit tomorrow night 366 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 4: or stand. But nonetheless that has really shined through and 367 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 4: that exists when you enter back into the building as 368 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 4: well his you know, maluability. It's I mean, it's it's 369 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 4: really cool to see someone now in that position who 370 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 4: I saw in a very different light with La Rams. 371 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 4: When we work together now operate in such a free 372 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 4: flowing state of mind and openness to modify off of 373 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 4: what it is black and white on maybe a piece 374 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 4: of paper or a plan. So that agility, I think 375 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 4: is going to show itself in a lot of positive 376 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 4: ways moving forward, and certainly has already through the early 377 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 4: portion of training camp. 378 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the only thing I would add, I mean 379 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 3: one hundred percent agree everything James just said. I think 380 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 3: the fun thing for me and kind of putting my 381 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: player hat on, thinking back of how a players receiving 382 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: information and experiencing and going through this whole new experience, 383 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: because it's new for everybody, whether it's players here last year, 384 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 3: our free agentcy have come in our rookies. This is 385 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 3: a new operation, new messaging, new standard, expectations are different, 386 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 3: and I think Liam has done an outstanding job his 387 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 3: whole staff. He's an outstanding communicator. We hold communication in 388 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: highly high regard. It's important the three of us. Do 389 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 3: you watch him communicate to our team of laying out 390 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 3: early starting OTAs how we're going to practice, reiterating that 391 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 3: in training camp, what's the standard, what's the culture, what's 392 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: the expectation? Pretty much everyone does that in the NFL 393 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 3: on any team activity, the follow up of holding people accountable, 394 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 3: and a lot of people you hear the word holding someone, 395 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 3: holding someone accountable, you think that's a negative or like 396 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 3: discipline or like getting after somebody. It's not always that 397 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 3: if you can do it in a lot of different ways. 398 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 3: And his style of holding being consistent of what he 399 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 3: expects of play, style of effort, of physicality, of how 400 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: to approach the game, and he does an outstanding job 401 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 3: of communicating that to our players throughout this process. So 402 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 3: I think that's been something that's been very refreshing. I 403 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 3: think it's very important. I think players yearn for consistency 404 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 3: of understanding what the expectation is, and then when they're 405 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 3: held accountable, it becomes ingrained and understanding that and it's 406 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 3: not changing. And I think Liam and his staff had 407 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 3: done an outstanding job of saying, Hey, this is who 408 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 3: we are, and this is how we're going to operate, 409 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 3: here's the standard, and this is what we expect, and 410 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 3: while at the same time using his gift of having 411 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 3: that intuition of understanding as we're at a practice and 412 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 3: going through things and understanding and having a pulse of 413 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 3: the entire team and how to approach it and how 414 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 3: to tailor for any specific situation. So he's done an 415 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: outstanding job. Obviously it still early. We will face the 416 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 3: challenges and adversity along the way, but was confident before 417 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 3: coming into camp. Watching how we've operated and how the 418 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 3: staff's operated even builds the confidence that whatever's thrown at 419 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 3: us will figure it out, We'll work through it, communicate 420 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 3: with each other, hold the standard that we've set and 421 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 3: kind of attack it. So his communication has been elite. 422 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: From going back to our playing days a little bit, 423 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,400 Speaker 2: some of the great players that we experienced, and I'm 424 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: sure that you've watched James and scouted, et cetera. It 425 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 2: seems like they have what we would call edge, got 426 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 2: a little edge to them, a little feisty whatever, however 427 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: you want to term it. And it was kind of 428 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 2: interesting watching. It was actually on Jaguars dot Com. It 429 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: was little tidbits from The Hunt, which is gonna be 430 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 2: one of the TV shows coming up. Youause have heard 431 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 2: of the Hunt, right, you guys have heard it. He's 432 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 2: the star past stars of the Hunt. I mean he 433 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 2: is a star of course anyway, supporting tease for the Hunt. 434 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: It's limb in front of the team talking about edge. 435 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 2: What is your edge? You know? But you know when 436 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 2: you talk about Liam, the one thing that I kind 437 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,919 Speaker 2: of see with him is that a coach has to 438 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: have a little edge too, because if you got a 439 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,959 Speaker 2: little edge, the message gets through a little bit, it 440 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 2: gets to be more believable. I think it propels guys 441 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: to do more than maybe they're accustomed to if there's 442 00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 2: a little bit of an edge to the coach. And 443 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: I think he's got it wrong. That do you guys 444 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: see that feel that. 445 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 4: I think you got a good sense for who he 446 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 4: is an intuition gut feel over there, Jack edge? All right, 447 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 4: so I'm feeling you guys are almost looking like one 448 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 4: right now. 449 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's an edge. 450 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 3: There's definitely an edge. What's your edge? JP? 451 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 2: What is my edge? Yeah? 452 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 3: What makes you different? What sets you apart with your edge? 453 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. 454 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 4: Here's what I'll jump in real quick. Typically, when you're 455 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 4: talking about high performance, revealing your edge isn't necessarily something 456 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 4: yet you should feel like. 457 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 3: That's why I asked JP, because he's more of a 458 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 3: mid to low performance. 459 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: We're back in a moment. We're going to close this 460 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: show up when we come back. Now, we got we 461 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 2: got another fifteen minutes, right Not the way they're going 462 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 2: right now. This is this is how you get out 463 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 2: of here. Quicker Show on Jaguars Radio, Welcome Back. 464 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues 465 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: right now. 466 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 2: The final couple of minutes with James Gladstone and Tony Boselli. 467 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: And Boselli is timing this, so we got to get 468 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: out pretty quick. 469 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: Uh. 470 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 2: Final couple of minutes William coach Japy Shaddick with Jeff 471 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 2: flaghaman scrimmage tomorrow and then guess what game week is here? 472 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 2: The Steelers are coming to let's go preseason week one, 473 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 2: real football, well preseason football, but. 474 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 3: Really, but it's it's actually gonna be and we talk 475 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: about this all the time. It'll be the first time 476 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 3: of authentic football, full tackle, the full tackle like we 477 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 3: are playing football. I mean, we're playing football the now 478 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: with thudding and our guys are being physical doing everything 479 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 3: we ask. But obviously you want to protect guys. But man, 480 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,239 Speaker 3: you kick it off against the Steelers, you have an 481 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 3: opponent out there, it's it's full going and you and 482 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 3: you learn more. I mean, JP, we talked about this 483 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 3: for years together. This is all an evaluation process used 484 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 3: build towards opening day, and each of each segment is 485 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: an additional data point that you learn about your team, 486 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 3: about the individual players, your coaches, us as a building, 487 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 3: how we operate, and so ramps up kind of ramps 488 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 3: up all the way to opening day, and it's a 489 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 3: big moment. Preseason is important and a lot of guys 490 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 3: fighting for jobs and fighting for the opportunity and they're 491 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 3: gonna have a chance in a real NFL game setting 492 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,359 Speaker 3: to go show that they deserve to be on the 493 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 3: team shooting. 494 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 4: I don't know what it was like when you two 495 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 4: were on the grass, but it. 496 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 2: Was leather helmets. First of all. 497 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess it was quite a bit different, But 498 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 4: the timing of roster reductions had to have been a 499 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 4: much different different And that was when I first got 500 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 4: involved in the NFL. It was the case you had 501 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 4: three separate waves of reductions. The fact that we get 502 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 4: to carry ninety players through the end of the preseason 503 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 4: is a really helpful piece to the puzzle, right. You're 504 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 4: not moving from players too quickly right after preseason week one, 505 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 4: and now it becomes a challenge preseason week two and 506 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 4: week three to even fill out the group and keep 507 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 4: everybody healthy and. 508 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 3: Especially I mean most teams have gone and we're still 509 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 3: in the evaluation process of how we're going to handle this, 510 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 3: but a lot of teams across the league are playing 511 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,239 Speaker 3: the starters and their premier players less and less in 512 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 3: several instances, not at all during the preseason preseason, using 513 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 3: the camp and joint practices that opportunity to get the 514 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 3: work in necessary to be ready opening day, and so 515 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 3: having that ninety man roster all through preseason Game three, 516 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 3: it's critical to really get out their evaluate and give 517 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 3: guys a chance to go earn a roster spot. 518 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: I think it's a great debate on how do you 519 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 2: how do you approach the preseason with playtime and starters 520 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 2: and the risk of injury versus the risk of getting 521 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 2: guys ready to play. I mean, back you know the 522 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,160 Speaker 2: old days, pre standard. I mean I'm not to bring 523 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 2: up the old days. Everyone did the same everybody did 524 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 2: the same thing, same thing. It was one quarter in 525 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 2: the first game, the second game, you'd go to the 526 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 2: quarter and a half to the half. The next game 527 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: you'd come out after halftime. 528 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 4: And nowadays everybody's trying to find an edge. 529 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 3: And here's speaking from experience. Wow, wow, you kind of 530 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: that up their JP. And the interesting thing, Jeff, you 531 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 3: bring up a great point. You see teams that play 532 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 3: their starters in pre season and win. You see teams 533 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 3: that don't play starters at all and win. And so 534 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 3: it's not like there's like the data says like do 535 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 3: this and here's the result, or do that and you 536 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 3: we'll get this outcome. So it goes back with James 537 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 3: was talking about Leam. You gotta have a feel your 538 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 3: head coach has got to feel the team, feel the situation, 539 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 3: understand where you are. And I think that's one of 540 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 3: the reasons we've been Liam has been very quiet all 541 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 3: the organization of what the plan is. Kind of Liam, 542 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 3: we trust one hundred percent to understand kind of where 543 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 3: we're at and what he needs to and his coaches 544 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 3: need to do and see and and get a feel 545 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 3: for and and we'll find out opening night, and. 546 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: We'll probably talk about it next week if there's a 547 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: decision out there. Next Thursday, how about. 548 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 4: That time Town Possibly we'll see Baby remain agile. 549 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: That's right, James, great to see. Appreciate you, Tony, you 550 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: were here. We have another seven minutes. We're done with these, 551 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: especially that one. James is more welcome. I appreciate the 552 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: Tony with us back with more so. The Hum Coach 553 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 2: Show on the Jaguars Radio Network, Welcome Back. 554 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues 555 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: right now. 556 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 2: And we are on the Jaguars Radio Network, presented by 557 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 2: the University of Florida, number one university in the US 558 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 2: News and World Reports, number one state for education. 559 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: J P. 560 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 2: Shatick with Jeff Logoman, another fantastic conversation with James Bladstone 561 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 2: and Tony Boselli live in the studio. You know, I 562 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 2: think we need to once we get to the regular season, 563 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: since we're gonna have Liam on, which by the way, 564 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 2: I really wait for it. He's great, and we should 565 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 2: have like maybe a second show. So I'm saying that 566 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: Gladstone Biselli show have a pod. A podcast. Yeah, that's 567 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 2: the rage these days, right, everybody's got everybody's got a podcast. Podcast. 568 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: It seemed like nowadays, let's throw these guys out there. Anyway, 569 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: I was walking into building Monday or Tuesday, I don't 570 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 2: remember exactly which day, and I saw, you know how, 571 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: sometimes in in football stadium or buildings or any kind 572 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: of athletic buildings, you always see these sayings, right, you know, 573 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 2: team not me, four A to B right, that kind 574 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 2: of stuff, all that kind of stuff. And so there 575 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 2: there was one that was up in the building downstairs, 576 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: which which I saw as I walked by, and I 577 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: couldn't help but notice that I thought it was pretty cool. 578 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 2: And it's a it's called cleats, and cleats is spelled 579 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: C L E A T S. Thank you. That's what 580 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 2: that UVA education did for me. And on the sign 581 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: it says cleats and of course between each letter is 582 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 2: a period, meaning that's an acronym for something. So it 583 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: says cleats. Be where your feet are, so you go 584 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 2: to the C. It's commitment, and it says selfless devotion, 585 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 2: We above me. L is for love, prep, practice, game, 586 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: the process drives results. Gotta love the press E energy, energy, vibe, 587 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: positive state of mind, uplift your space. ViBe's a good word. 588 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 2: I like that a authentic relationships are built on trust, 589 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 2: t tough mentally and physically. And then the S is smart, 590 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 2: expert of your craft. Pretty cool stuff. I thought that's 591 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: a really cool thing to have on the side of 592 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 2: the building because if you follow that thing right there 593 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,959 Speaker 2: as a team and as an individual, you will be successful. 594 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 2: It's part of building the culture of what they want 595 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: around here. I like sayings like that, you know, I mean, 596 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 2: it's in black and white, it's right there in front 597 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: of everybody to see it, read it, feel it. That's 598 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 2: the culture that they're building. I like it. Let's come 599 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 2: back in a moment. We'll talk a little more ballogs 600 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 2: when we come back. A couple of padded practices. Earlier 601 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 2: this week, we got to get to and a teaser. 602 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 2: Robert Haynes. Okay, if you're gonna block Devon Hamilton on 603 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 2: the very first one on one pass rush move? Okay, 604 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: if you're Hainsey, what do you expect? And number two, 605 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 2: how are you gonna react? Well? See when we come back. 606 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: It's the Liam Cohen Show on Jaguars Radio. Welcome back. 607 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues 608 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: right now. 609 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 2: We are back and we'll have the head coach with 610 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 2: us starting week one of the regular season or thanks 611 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 2: to James Landstone GM and EVP Tony Baselli joining us 612 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 2: the first to half hour of the program tonight and 613 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 2: throughout the rest of the preseason. Been fun so far 614 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: two weeks in to have those guys in studio with us. 615 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 2: How many of you want to see the Prowler throwbacks 616 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 2: come back this season? Be sure to check out the 617 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: Predict the Prowlers Sweepstakes on jagg's social channels through August fifth, 618 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 2: and if you get switch game or games the Jags 619 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 2: might wear them this season, you have a chance to 620 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 2: win an autograph Prowler throwback jersey, So check that out. 621 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 2: I like the throwbacks, Yeah, they're cool. I think, I 622 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 2: think they're fantastic. I think they would to wear them 623 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 2: all the time. I think, yeah, we'll see how many 624 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 2: times they wear them this year. But I think there's 625 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: some rules on that they're not doing alternative helmets or anything, right, No, no, no, yeah, 626 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 2: I think that was that one game white helmet. I 627 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 2: think that's done. Now. If you could pick an alternative helmet, 628 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 2: what what would the style be like a new one 629 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 2: or what I mean, what you would want to see 630 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 2: if you were the designer and you had the decision 631 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 2: to make the call on an alternative helmet, which it's 632 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 2: not like you can go back in time and say, 633 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 2: you know what, let's go back to the first one, 634 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 2: because they're so close now versus back in ninety five. 635 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 2: But if you could come up with a different color, 636 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 2: a different skim, a different look, probably a teel helmet, right, yeah, 637 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 2: probably so, or one with Jaguars spots all around, that'd 638 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 2: be a different kind of like bengalish yeahs, but not quite. 639 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 2: I don't think i'd like that. You wouldn't go back 640 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 2: to the two tone? No, that was so bad. Okay, 641 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 2: that was so bad. Okay, Hey, let's get back to 642 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 2: your question before the break. If you're Robert Hansey offensive 643 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 2: lineman and you're lined up against Devon Hamilton, what's your approach? Okay, 644 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 2: So Robert Haynes, he'd get people onto a veteran center 645 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 2: they acquired from Tampa Bay. And and if you look 646 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 2: at him, you know he's he's a big guy because 647 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 2: he's an offensive lineman, but you know from the waist 648 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 2: down he's not like a big, giant, hulking guy six 649 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 2: four three oh six. And Devon Hamilton they list him 650 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 2: at like three thirty five. But there ain't no way 651 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 2: you think he's bigger than Oh gosh, I think that's 652 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:59,439 Speaker 2: about fair. No, no, no, no, no, no, he's plus 653 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 2: So anyway, Von Hamilton incredibly strong, Okay, Hainsey, you know, 654 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 2: not as strong. So if I'm Hainsey, the first thing 655 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 2: I'm thinking is this guy is gonna try to just 656 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 2: walk me back to the quarterback with a bull rush, right. 657 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 2: So Hainsey's prepared for that. And one of the great 658 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,600 Speaker 2: things about smart veteran players, which Hainsey is one of them, 659 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 2: you can kind of send a message to create a 660 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 2: little uncertainty in the minds of players going forward. If 661 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 2: you do the right thing first. Hainsey sets here, comes 662 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 2: to Von Hamilton with the bull. Hainsey knocks his hands down, 663 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 2: buries him in the grass. So what is Devon Hamilton 664 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 2: thinking about the next time he's pass rushing. I can't 665 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 2: do that. He's gonna knock my hands down. So now 666 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 2: he's a little hesitant the next time, so in Hainsey's 667 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,439 Speaker 2: able to slow the momentum a little bit the next time. 668 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 2: I just thought it was real crafty by Hainsey, kind 669 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 2: of expecting that at being prepared for it, reacting to it, 670 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 2: and then he kind of sets the tone for the 671 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 2: ensuing rushes. And as a smart veteran player, if you 672 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 2: have a little bit of that wherewithal and awareness in games, 673 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 2: it can make the difference between winning and losing individual battles. 674 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 2: So pretty cool to see. Yeah, and yeah, he's been 675 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 2: around for five years, his fifth year in the league, 676 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 2: so he's played some football. Yeah, he's uh, he's not 677 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 2: real big from the waist down now, you know he's 678 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,239 Speaker 2: an offensive lineman. You know you if you if you 679 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 2: took a picture of him and just legs and I 680 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 2: gave that picture to you JP waist down, I said, 681 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 2: predict what position this guy plays out and it was 682 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 2: amongst other ones. Okay, there's no way you would say 683 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,240 Speaker 2: offensive line, do you what would you say? Probably linebacker? Okay? 684 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 2: I mean everybody's got a different body, you know, everybody's different. 685 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,759 Speaker 2: And he's you know, slight down low compared to most 686 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 2: all offensive lineman. But he's you know, he's big up 687 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 2: the top, you know. And he's obviously a good football player. 688 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 2: He started a lot of football games, and he's gonna 689 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 2: help this team. Let's come back in a moment. Let's 690 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 2: get in the secondary. We haven't really touched the air 691 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 2: a lot in the last day or so. And and 692 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,440 Speaker 2: on top of that, we talked about this earlier in 693 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 2: the week, and you forgot Okay, So I'm gonna remind 694 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 2: you what. There's two guys on this football team that 695 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 2: I will okay, And when I say what about the rest, 696 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 2: you don't like the rest of them? No, I like 697 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 2: a lot of it. There's only two, but there's two 698 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 2: guys that are If you have a lot of guys 699 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 2: like these two guys, you can win a lot of 700 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,680 Speaker 2: football games because these guys are tough and they're dependent. Dude, 701 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 2: Leave was hanging no, okay, we'll come back and back 702 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 2: outside of the break. All right, it's the Liam Cohen 703 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 2: Show on the Jaguars Radio Network. Welcome Back. 704 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida, continues 705 00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: right now. 706 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,839 Speaker 2: J P. Shadwick, whiz f Logoman, and don't miss your 707 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 2: chance to score an exclusive Brian Thomas Junior bobblehead and 708 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 2: a ticket to see the Jaguars take on the Chargers, 709 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 2: Colts or Jets at every Bank city you have. The 710 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 2: special offer won't last though, one bobblehead with every ticket. 711 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,719 Speaker 2: Get yours today at six three three two thousand or 712 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 2: email ticketing at Jaguars dot com. We continue on the 713 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 2: Liam Cohen Show. We'll have the head coach Week one 714 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 2: of the regular season. We had James Gladstone and Tony 715 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 2: Bisselli in the first half hour tonight. Let's get into 716 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,760 Speaker 2: the secondary now. And you said you had two guys 717 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 2: that you loved on the team and the rest of 718 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 2: them can go. Pound sand said, Okay that I said. 719 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 2: I just said, you know, the more guys that you have, 720 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,359 Speaker 2: like these two guys that I'm gonna bring up, I think, 721 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 2: the greater chance you have of being being successful and 722 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 2: the two guys I'm talking about, Parker Washington and then 723 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 2: Brenton Strange. You know, I don't consider these guys like 724 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 2: rockstar superstars in the NFL. You know, maybe Brenton Strange 725 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 2: can take that next step to be one of these 726 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 2: elite tight ends, but that's not where he's at right now. 727 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 2: But he's a guy just like Parker Washington. Whatever you 728 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,439 Speaker 2: ask them to do, they do it well. And they're 729 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,760 Speaker 2: not elite players, but they're tough players. They're dependable players, 730 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 2: they're always available. Give me a bunch of those guys 731 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 2: and you can win a lot of football games. And 732 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 2: Parker Washington is kind of an afterthought right now, you know, 733 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 2: because all of the attention is on Travis Hunter, It's 734 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 2: on Diammie Brown and also BTJ. Yes, and we'll wait 735 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 2: a minute. Parker Washington's a good football player and also 736 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 2: a very good return man. And I appreciate how his 737 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 2: name is coming up and being positive because I appreciate 738 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:52,239 Speaker 2: Parker Washington. He works incredibly hard. This conversation kind of 739 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 2: flips over to defense as well, and they did a 740 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 2: lot of work this offseason to rebuild the defensive back room, 741 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 2: safeties and corners, free agency play draft picks, and I 742 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 2: think you're seeing, at least early in camp week and 743 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 2: a half in two padded practices, there are some positive 744 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 2: signs out of some of these new faces. And the 745 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 2: one that pops out to me almost every day is 746 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 2: Jordan Lewis, the cornerback, ninth year man out of Michigan, 747 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,319 Speaker 2: was in Dallas the guys everywhere, seems to get his 748 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 2: hands on football every day, super competitive and has just 749 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 2: you talked about an edge, right, he's got doubt it. 750 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 2: He's got something about God. And what I like about 751 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 2: him too, that edge. Okay, he competes with guys, but 752 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 2: then plays over he's helping the offensive guy up. He knows, hey, 753 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:44,479 Speaker 2: look that's my teammate. And there is no doubt that 754 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 2: that whole position group has been elevated. James Gladstone did 755 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 2: a wonderful job in free agency with addressing that position group. 756 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 2: I say that position group, the whole back end. It's 757 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:01,760 Speaker 2: going to be interesting to see who's gonna start. There's 758 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 2: some very clear choices right now. Tyson Campbell's gonna be 759 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 2: your right corner. Jordan Lewis is gonna be your nickel guy. 760 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 2: Who's gonna be your left corner. I don't know, could 761 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 2: be Travis Hunter what you would assume? So right? But 762 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 2: what happens if Travis is not out there? Does Jordan 763 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 2: Lewis go back outside? Does Jari and Jones go in 764 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 2: there at left corner? Does Monteric Brown once he comes back? 765 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 2: Does he end up making some some a spot for himself? 766 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 2: A great question. The safeties you got brought You brought 767 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 2: a guy in via free agency. You've got a guy 768 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 2: last year who many thought was not any good anymore 769 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 2: in Antonio Johnson, and all he's doing is playing good 770 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 2: ball right now in training camp. They got Eric you 771 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,960 Speaker 2: mentioned the veteran Eric Murray, tenth year player at of Minnesota, 772 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,720 Speaker 2: but good solid head above his shoulders, football smart always 773 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,920 Speaker 2: seems to be in the right place. Man Dewey Winger 774 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 2: same thing back there. Uh has given you quality snaps 775 00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 2: in the past. Performances have been really solid. So that's 776 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 2: gonna be a really fun group to watch evolve. We'll 777 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 2: come back in a moment our final thoughts. We'll look 778 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,359 Speaker 2: ahead to the scrimmage Tomorrow night of The Liam Cohen 779 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:08,720 Speaker 2: Show on Jaguars Radio. 780 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back the Liam Cohen show presented by Fresh from 781 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: Florida continues right now. 782 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,240 Speaker 2: Find a Moment's j P. Shaddick with Jeff Loogman scrimmage 783 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 2: tomorrow night. Jaguars dot Com Slash Training Camp. Register for 784 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 2: free admission four o'clock. The free parking is open. Gates 785 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 2: one and four will be open tomorrow at five o'clock 786 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,319 Speaker 2: and then seven o'clock the actual scrimmage begins. But the 787 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,279 Speaker 2: hour leading in there'll be some on field warm up 788 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 2: things and excited to see what this team has to 789 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 2: offer tomorrow night, especially quarterback. Let's see the Trevor Lawrence 790 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 2: show tomorrow. Well, the performance of everybody but Trevor Lawrence. 791 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 2: And I mean at times Trevor's just kind of been 792 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 2: okay and then times you're like, wow, that was helping. 793 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 2: He threw a deep ball today, that's beautiful. But the 794 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 2: other guys that are behind Trevor, you're just like, eh, eh, 795 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,759 Speaker 2: so I think that that's gonna Look. I know that 796 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 2: they wanted to surround Trevor with guys that have had 797 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 2: experience in the system, sure, which they accomplished that, but 798 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 2: at some point into the future you need to also 799 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 2: start realizing, hey, look, we need to get we need 800 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,720 Speaker 2: to get an upgrade there, make that position better across 801 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 2: the board. You know, not obtaining you know you're goutting 802 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 2: Trevor or anything. I'm just saying, elevate the players at that 803 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 2: room and make it better and more competitive overall. So 804 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,959 Speaker 2: tomorrow scrimmage time, and we're about a week away from 805 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 2: preseason week one, so we're in the thick of it 806 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 2: right now. Well, and then Pittsburgh is when is that? 807 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,120 Speaker 2: What day is that? Saturday? Saturday night? Saturday night? Yeah, 808 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 2: that'll be a fun one. I wonder who you know 809 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 2: and they know who's not playing? Aaron Rodgers will not 810 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 2: play it that you don't think, I don't think so, I 811 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 2: doubt it. Well. The interesting thing from our perspective is 812 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 2: because you know, preseason is one of those games you 813 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 2: don't care about the other team for the most part, right, 814 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 2: you care about evaluating your team, the health of your team, 815 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,360 Speaker 2: and who's playing and who's not for your team. That's 816 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,280 Speaker 2: gonna be the interesting thing next week is who's playing 817 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 2: who's not. I don't care because I'm watching it either way, 818 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 2: all right. Thanks to James Gladstone, Tony Vasselli, Joe Fortunado, 819 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,680 Speaker 2: Brent Reever, David Choe for Jeff Logerman. I'm JP Shaddick. 820 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 2: This is the Liam Cohen Chow