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I'm Zoe de Chanelle and I'm 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: so excited to be joined by my friends and cast 19 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: mates Hannah Simone and Lamar and Morris to recap our 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 1: hit television series New Girl. Join us every Monday on 21 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: the Welcome to Our Show podcast, where we'll share behind 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: the scenes stories of your favorite New Girl episodes. Each week, 23 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: we answer all your burnie questions like is there really 24 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: a bear in every episode of New Girl. Plus you'll 25 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: hear hilarious stories like this that was one of your 26 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:40,639 Speaker 1: things you brought back from a professional pasketball players. Yeah, guys, 27 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: we can't wait to share our New Girl journey with you. 28 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: Listen to the Welcome to Our Show podcast starting on 29 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: January on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or 30 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. My guest today is von Hebron. 31 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: He is the Careers on fire. If you have a 32 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: water hole call of Roman called nine one one, I'm 33 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: a fan. I'm just put it out front. I'm a 34 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: big fan of his from jump. Let me get all 35 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: the credits so we can start talking. I noticed his talents, 36 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: so for the first time, Tyler Prayer is the Oval. 37 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: That's when he came into my life that first season. 38 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 1: But it does not stop there. He's appearing right now 39 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: Will Smith new movie Keen Richards. He's also the Devil 40 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: Know you're coming out in opposite My Boys on My 41 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: ELPs and Michael Eally who also been on my show. 42 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about vonge new lead role and they 43 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: sent me some clips on your bones, so we're gonna 44 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: talk about that. You're surprised in the game. Everybody knows 45 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: the Game Serious Revival out on Paramount Plus. The show 46 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 1: premiered on Paramount Plus on Novever eleven of this year. 47 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: He'll be talking about his rising career, his journey uh 48 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: pivot him from a corporate life pursuing his acting in 49 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: his dream. And that's what we really want to talk about, 50 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: that making that leap. But all people talking about making 51 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: a leap of faith following their passion. But he did it, 52 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,959 Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about that because it always comes 53 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: with consequences that we can't control, but it's all positive 54 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: because you live in your dream and getting rolled successfully 55 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: in such a short period of time. What he has learned, 56 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: what's been an integral, integral part to his success on 57 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: his own journey this thus far, please walk into money 58 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:27,119 Speaker 1: making conversation, Vaughan hebron. I appreciate you being man. Well. 59 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: First of all, um, let's part where are you from? Vaughan, 60 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: Where are you from? Originally boughtom of Maryland. Huh really 61 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: brought him in Maryland, and Uh, I went to high 62 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: school in Pennsylvania and the college at Lafia College, Pennsylvania 63 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: before I started traveling. Uh. In my pharmaceutical career, Okay, pharmaceuticals. 64 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: So that was a professional way of saying you were 65 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: selling drugs for a living. Oh yeah, I was professional 66 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: dope dealing because okay, you go, and nothing wrong with 67 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: that because the people do it for real, and that 68 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: people do it on the streets, and people in the streets, 69 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: those people get in Trump now use out there now 70 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: that I have a couple of friends about who were 71 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: professional pharmaceutical sale people and they make a good living. 72 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: They enjoy their life, drive nice cars, nice houses, vaun Okay, okay, 73 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you can look at guy articulate, kind of 74 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: nice shape. You're probably have there being very successful, weren't you, 75 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: thank Yeah, man, I mean, you know, having it was 76 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: my first real job out of college. Um, you know, 77 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: and your your mid twenties having a pharmaceutical job. You know, 78 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: things are getting paid for, checks are coming in, You're 79 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: living a good life. So it was definitely a career 80 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: that my parents are proud of and that everybody from 81 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: the outside looking in just thought, hey, you already made 82 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: it at such an early time of your life, which 83 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: was even more of course interested when I shifted and 84 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: left that and go into acting. But uh, to your point, 85 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: most definitely it's it's a great career, and um, I 86 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: will go back to it if I wasn't happy what 87 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm doing. Well, you know that that's really interesting because 88 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: the offer I was just telling you like that happened 89 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: to me. You know. I was my degrees in mathematics, 90 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: my miners, and sociology, graduated from University of Houston and Houston, Texas, 91 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: and got a job at IBM. In fact, I was 92 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: working with IBM two and a half years part time 93 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: before I, you know, send it to a full time opportunity. 94 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: Had the car, had their apartment, had the social life, 95 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: all that good stuff, all those boxes, all those boxes. 96 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: But I wasn't satisfied because from a creative standpoint, I wasn't. 97 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: I would never say I was not happy because the 98 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: best time in my life. I still live off those 99 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: life of experiences. But something was missing though on what 100 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: was missing? When you because you did all the right 101 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: thing I checked, check check what was missing? I think 102 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: for me, what was I know for me, what was 103 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: missing was the the feeling that I was actually accomplishing 104 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: something for myself, right, the feeling that I was uh 105 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: making myself happy before others that I was, That I 106 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: was accomplishing things because I wanted to do it, opposed 107 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 1: to just you know, the societal standards of making money, 108 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: getting a resume, um having this position, that position. It 109 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: was like when I stepped back and said that, am 110 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: I really happy hanging my hat on this besides everybody 111 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: else's Is this what I want to say that I'm doing? 112 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: I couldn't say that. You know, I was going through emotions. 113 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: I was going through my emotions. I was looking for 114 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: another reason to get out of bed every morning besides 115 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: just just fulfilling these certain duties that look good on 116 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: paper and they look good by societal standards. Right. Well, 117 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's really interesting when I when I bring 118 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: guests like you on on money making conversation, because a 119 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: lot of people they wait to a certain point in 120 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 1: life where they make a decision. And maybe I always 121 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: took you There's no excuse, would never be an excuse. 122 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: And then like when I left IBM. I made that 123 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: decision a year in advance, and and I and I 124 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: was and I would tell people on the show. I've 125 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: said many time, I was brought to tears by that 126 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: decision because it was such a tough decision because I 127 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: wasn't sure, but I know, if I wanted to be 128 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: happy long term, I didn't want to look back years 129 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: and go, what if? What was that decision making process 130 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: to with you Von, you know, to which is led 131 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: to the oval, which has led to the game, which 132 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: has led to so many other opportunities we're gonna talk about. 133 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: But what really because it was nothing out that that 134 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: guaranteed you, because that was a guaranteed help benefits, guaranteed check, 135 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 1: guarfree ripping and pay. It came every week, fifth of 136 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: the twice a month, it came. It was the stability, 137 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: and it was it was the stability. It was, you know, 138 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: a very stable, safe environment that you're in. And I 139 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 1: guess the process for me was first realizing that I 140 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: wasn't fulfilled, you know. And I think a lot of 141 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: people actually feeled it sometimes and they struggled with it. 142 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: They may not be able to put their finger on 143 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: what it is, but it's the feeling of I'm not 144 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: I'm I happy for myself. I'm not um fulfilling my potential. 145 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm getting up every day because I have to, 146 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: not because I want to. And I think understanding and 147 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 1: being aware of that first and foremost once. If you 148 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: have that awareness, then you can start making decisions from there, 149 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: and you know, understanding why you feel that way, understanding 150 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: how you can change that way, and then starting yourself 151 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: on the course um to change your life. So for me, 152 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: it was again understanding one day that you know, I 153 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 1: wasn't happy, and then starting to think of other things 154 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: that what made me happy. Understanding my passions, Understanding things 155 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: that I like to do when nobody's paying me to 156 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:41,839 Speaker 1: do it, when nobody's forcing me to do it, what 157 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: do I find myself doing? And that's where I started 158 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: to draw, you know, eventually got into acting classes because 159 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: I've always loved movies, I've always loved television. Nobody ever 160 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: had to make me do that, and nobody that I'll 161 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: be on the TV watching my television all day, you know. 162 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: So it was it was first understanding that and that's 163 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: what led me to the course of actions that got 164 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: me eventually here we were talking to Van Hebron. He 165 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: starved a new series on Paramount Plus streaming the game. Uh, 166 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 1: we're gonna I want to jump a little bit of 167 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: heare because now this is a lead role. So this 168 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: is all about you, you know, because you you know, 169 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: they a lot of more pressure, you know about it. 170 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 1: And obviously they've sent me up sizzle cut sampling and 171 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: I got that met Man, you look like you really 172 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: can play the game with football. You really, I would 173 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: tell you so, man, you know, because you know, I 174 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: like when I was I've been and uh when I 175 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: did when I was co executive of the Jamie Foxx 176 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: Show way back when when he did uh, you know 177 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: the movie with Appuccino the Football, but when he played 178 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: the quarterback. You know, he got in shape, man, and 179 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: he and he played that role. That was actually the 180 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: role that the launched his career, especially as a dramatic actor, 181 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: because he was only names known as a comedian. And 182 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: when you go back and they throw that ball to 183 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: you and you catching you running man down the sideline 184 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: like a like a like a professional wilde receiver. Talk 185 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: about the reality of being able to say I want 186 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: people to feel I can actually play this in real 187 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: life too, if he was given the opportunity. Because man, 188 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you something, I was impressed by your 189 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: your where you adapted the role and also where you 190 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: fined you. You actually I could actually see you catching 191 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: a ball from Kylin Murray from Arizona Carner. I could 192 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: actually believe that. Talk about that experience. Well, for me, 193 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 1: it was UM. I was very adamant about doing my 194 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: own stunts for this role. I was very adamant about 195 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: having me in there as much as possible to not 196 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: only sell Um Jamison feels being that character, being that guy, 197 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: but also to you know, give myself a chance to 198 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: realize my potential. I haven't played um college football all 199 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: thee since, like you know, two thousand thirteen. But I'm 200 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: somebody who stays in shape. I'm somebody who always active. 201 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: And these are the roles that I worked for, These 202 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: are the roles that I trained so hard for. So 203 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: I was not going to let a stunt double get 204 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: in there and just you know, do all the work. 205 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: I said, put me in as much as possible and 206 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: in that environment. Honestly, honestly, I forgot I was acting. 207 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,599 Speaker 1: Honestly that I was acting. It was it felt like 208 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: like being back on the field. The pressure, the nerves, 209 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: the being the star on the field, being that guy. 210 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: It was everything that I had grown accustomed to and 211 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: had experience with. So for me, it was an easy 212 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: transition just to bring all of that pressure, all the 213 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: nerves into the scene, into these moments and really show up. 214 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 1: Uh So it was it was I will tell you 215 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: here was a lot of work, but just cut you 216 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: off right there, because I want to let you know. 217 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: You know, I've been fortunate, you know it managed Steve Harvey, 218 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 1: currently managed Steve A. Smith. You know Nick Cannon, and 219 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 1: you know Kearvin Hard, Jamie Fox, Robert Howles and twins 220 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: Tia and Tomorrow Malray together Union. I've been around a 221 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: lot of stars, Monique, and I've been able to sit 222 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: down and coach them, motivate them. And the reality is 223 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: all tied to hard work. Every name I mentioned, they're 224 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: still successful because of hard work. And so what I 225 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: loved about what I saw was that, you know, I 226 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: see you take off. I need to see a little 227 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: skinny guy and catching the ball. I knew that was 228 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: you catching the ball. So by setting that that that standard, 229 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: the respect level on the set went up because I 230 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,959 Speaker 1: could you I cann tell you right now, because I'll 231 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,719 Speaker 1: remember of actors, there were actors who suddenly when I 232 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: can't do that, And so that was, you know, when 233 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: you when you're trying to step in. I remember when 234 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: Steve Harvey when we were doing this first sitcom and 235 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: namey four and that's where we that's why I met 236 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 1: Wendy Red. Carol Robinson, your coach, carved the show, gave it. 237 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: She came in as a love interest way back then 238 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 1: in ninety four ninety five, and you know it was 239 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: it was, you know, a lot of a lot of 240 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: people giving Steve flat because he was a comedian. Suddenly 241 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: he was giving a star and roll in the sitcom 242 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: and people talk about he can't act, he can't act. 243 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: While he getting the role. Okay, when he stepped out there, 244 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: then everybody shut up, Oh he can't at Oh I'm sorry, 245 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Sometimes you got the only way to prove people, 246 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: the only way to prove things that people are just 247 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: by showing up and do the work right. And so 248 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: with that being said, and I'm very complimentary about that 249 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: because of the fact that you know a lot of 250 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: people they say they want to dream, they want it, 251 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: but then again they don't want to show up and 252 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:38,599 Speaker 1: put the work out and to work in because, like 253 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: you said, you you were a hand raising. I always 254 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: tell people being a hand raiser just because that's not 255 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: because a lot of people said, well they don't pay 256 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: me to do that. Well you did a hand raise. 257 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: Look I want to do that, and that in turn 258 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: gives me more respect. And I kid you not man 259 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: your career. Once people see this series more and more 260 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: than all your body of work. Brother, you you're gonna 261 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,599 Speaker 1: be working for a long time on Thank you. I 262 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,959 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Thank you so much. You're gonna be 263 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: working for a long time because of the fact that 264 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: you know, the credibility that you gave me, and you 265 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: know the fact that you know I know we was 266 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: up to. It was like a couple of times he 267 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: was supposed to interview and we gotta breach carees us 268 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: and no, no, no, whatever, he whatever his scared. I 269 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: want to interview him because I really enjoy you and 270 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: I love meeting young talent like you because that's my job. 271 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: My job is to meet people like you've all and 272 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: then tell you how special you are let you know 273 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: state of course and longevity. We party your game. And 274 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: that's why I mentioned Wendy Rickara Robinson when I made 275 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: her name. Four Queen dude acting every year, right, every year, 276 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: every year, and she just sus an example for us, 277 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: like she is literally the queen on set, the example 278 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: that she sets, the work ethic that she has to 279 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: her leadership skills, her her motherly but also like tough 280 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: love skills. Like she she is such a prime example 281 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: of somebody who has paved away for other people to 282 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: get to that same level, and she does it consistently 283 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: with her hard work. We will be right back with 284 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: more money making conversation with Rashwan McDonald. 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Now let's return some 317 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: money making conversation with Rashan McDonald. Now let's let's let's 318 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: go to my favorite show. When I first saw you 319 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: all The Oval, The Oval. Okay, let's let's talk about 320 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: was that your first that's Tyler Paris The Oval, which 321 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 1: is very popular, one of the most popular shows on 322 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: bt UM. I met this, I saw I ever met 323 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: this year. I saw him. That's when he came into 324 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: my life. I'm I'm a fan of The Oval. And 325 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 1: he played this son, you know, his wife he had, 326 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: he had a child and then she goes she got 327 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: caught up into this coat just cause you don't know 328 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: the back store and then he had a little he 329 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: had an affair on the side. You know, his characters 330 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: all best stuff yall. You know, he was kind of 331 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: selling drugs, but he wasn't selling. He was Let's talk 332 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: about that relationship with Tyler Perry. How did this start 333 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: before we started having fun with the Oval because it 334 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: was a fun character because it was over the time. Well, um, 335 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: interestingly enough, you know, Tyler, he actually saw me on 336 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: a comedy spook that I did for the Zuus Network 337 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: and um, he saw that and it was that was 338 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: all improv. That was it was scripted, but it was 339 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: basically all improv and it was just like a comedy 340 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: fun thing. Um. And it was on YouTube and then 341 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: on Zeus Network, and he saw it because a couple 342 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: of people in the play that he did on his 343 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: last tour. I mentioned it to him and so he 344 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: eventually called me up right directly called my phone, and 345 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: uh he was like, ving Heaven, Tyler Perry here, you know, 346 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you. And that's right, and 347 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: so um, you know I'm literally in my bedroom having 348 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: a conversation with Tyler Perry on the phone. And he 349 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: just then, Okay, I remember when all Shiny Hall called me. 350 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: I was driving in l A, okay, and this is 351 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: him when he was a city or Hall. Okay, and uh, 352 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: I went, okay, I actually hung up on that's to 353 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: do stop this, stop to stop, stop stop playing with me, 354 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: and I hug up the phone on he come Hey man, 355 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: this is just really or senior Okay, that's okay, cool. 356 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: And you know those moments, man, when people at that 357 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: statue and believe me, Tyler Perry way bigger than our 358 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: senior Hall. So that's why I gotta slow him down. See, 359 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,920 Speaker 1: people like Vaughn, they missed the moment because it happened. 360 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: But she it's a blessing because Tyler does this all 361 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: the time. And I laughed with him because he had 362 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: called people up and had these regular conversations. And then 363 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: on the other end of the phone, they're hard jumping 364 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: out their chests, they mind screaming. I can't believe this. 365 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 1: They're trying to go where it's just gonna go with offer. 366 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: I made it. Talk about that emotion, Vaughn. When Tyler 367 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: Perry called you, you broke the reality that it was 368 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: Tyler Perry, and then you broke down into this casual 369 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: conversation you're talking about, right right. I mean, first of all, right, 370 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 1: so first of all, I got it heads up that 371 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 1: Tyler has spotted me. You know, one of the gas 372 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: makes text me and say, hey, um, Tyler asked about you. 373 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: I gave him your number. I hope that's okay. And 374 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm right, of course that's okay. But you know, you know, 375 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: when you when you hear stuff like that, you're thinking, 376 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: this may or may not turn into something. He's not 377 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 1: gonna he's not He's for sure not directly gonna contact me. 378 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,239 Speaker 1: And if anybody ever contacts me on behalf of him, 379 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna be six months from now and years and 380 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: now or whatever. And so it was literally two minutes 381 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: later that I see a four or four number pop up, 382 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: and I'm like, this can't be him. And as soon 383 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: as I answered the phone, I know his voice. I 384 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: knew his voice, and I'm stuttering, um um, I'm thinking 385 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: there is no possible way that he's calling me. And 386 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: I know he's calling me. I'm know I'm talking to him, 387 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: but this is not real, this is not happening. This 388 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: is surreal, um. And I'm just I'm listening. I'm feeling 389 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: my head right like, what are you doing? What is 390 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: what is going on right now? I can't be having 391 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: a conversation with this man after two years of being 392 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: in l A, moving here for this is that reason, 393 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: and he's he's now talking to me about acting. It's 394 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where you never forget the feeling. 395 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: But it's like it's so hard to describe because, uh, 396 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: influx of emotions and you're just all of a sudden, 397 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: universe just opens up. I can't believe it is right. 398 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: And so now the how did they all the opportunity 399 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: for The Oval come about? What did he call you 400 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: directly for the The Oval series? He had a character 401 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: and mindful. You had the audition for other characters. So 402 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: he had the character and mind for me after he 403 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: saw me. After he saw me, you know, we talked 404 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: a little bit um introductions and things like that and um, 405 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 1: and so that he started talking about the show that 406 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: he saw him before. He said, I see you do 407 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: comedy very well. I'm curious if you are a druma actor. 408 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: And I said, I can't be. I cannot be whatever. 409 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 1: Uh he said, well, I'm coming out with this new 410 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: show right now, and you are you are perfect for 411 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: this character named Barry, uh, that I that I have 412 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: on the show. Would you be interested? You know, I 413 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: gotta play it all. I got pay it up. Yeah, 414 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: you know, tell me about a little bit side some side, 415 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: so read to check out the line. Make sure you 416 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 1: get my character. You know you know, because I could 417 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: be you know, I gonna be interested into it. You know, 418 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: let let me hear about the character a little bit, Tyler, 419 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: let me hear about the character. Yeah, oh yeah, I 420 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: was really be interested in auditioning for this right And 421 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: we're just having a conversation man about the character about 422 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: the show, because he had been working on it for 423 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: about two years before he and they were actually in 424 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: the final stages of casting by the time he got 425 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: to me. Um, So it happened very fast for me. 426 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: Other people they've been you know, in line with it 427 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: for a while. Now the now the character man over 428 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 1: the top, man, he hothead. Uh you know, man got 429 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: a got a child, he got an extramarital or fair 430 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: Uh what did you when you start seeing that the 431 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: character descriptions start reading a lot. This is just fun talk, 432 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: you know, there's no you know, because the series is 433 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: over the top and it's fun and it's just outrageous. 434 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: But when did when did you realize this is there's 435 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: a line between comedy and drama d t you know, 436 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: because of your your character, because it was so over 437 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: the top and and you kept making them the stage 438 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: and you kept wanting people feel sorry for you, you 439 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 1: kept second chances and but you when you drove that 440 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: car through that drug store, I went, he had lost 441 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: his mind. Up, Pops got shot right. You know? For me, 442 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: it was it was a definitely it was definitely a 443 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: learning experience because, um, I I had an interesting time 444 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: with trying to make all this real because ever since 445 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: the first episode with Barry, you know, he got accused 446 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: of rape with the with the with the president's daughter daughter, 447 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: was kidnapped by a cult leader. Um, he accidentally shot somebody, 448 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: his girlfriend's cheating on him, and I'm just like, one 449 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: thing after another another. I have to I'm trying to 450 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm trying to ground it, Tyler, I'm trying to ground it. 451 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: And he's just like, you just gotta go for it, 452 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: go for it, like Ruth. He said, lose your mind mine. 453 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: So you are trying to make all this work makes sense, 454 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: you know exactly? He said, you can't make sense of it. 455 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: He literally said, you can't make sense of it, just 456 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: lose your mind. And so after that point, at that point, 457 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: I just became a little monster. Man. I just I 458 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: love it first of all, and there's no there's no 459 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: character description of Barry. When I got the audition. There 460 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 1: was no character description of it besides Butler's son, right right. 461 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: I forgot the fact that the President's dog did a 462 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: keeps your rape. That was the first. That was the 463 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: first thing that went wrong in your life. And then 464 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 1: it just it just kept just rolling down here after that, man, 465 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: So it was it's something I couldn't make sense of 466 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: it one he once he told me that. Then it 467 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: was just you know, you're on green light. You just 468 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: go a hunting my spotle from that one before we go, 469 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: I want to talk about a couple of the projects 470 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: that you have coming up, man, because I want to. 471 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to limit the fact that you know, 472 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of Oval, and that's why I 473 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: discovered you as a fan. I became a fan through 474 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 1: that that portal and then you're on the start in 475 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 1: the game. But Keen Richards in the theaters right now 476 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: read an article on uh you know, because it premiered 477 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: on HBO Max and then they said people a hundred 478 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: percent of the people watched the movie watched it all 479 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: the way through, which is a testament to a quality 480 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: of the movie, because usual people just pop off. You 481 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, the hundred. If you whoever started 482 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: watching that movie completed that movie, talk about that, and 483 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 1: then we're gonna slide over to the movie you're doing 484 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 1: with on my ELPs and mikea Els coming out next 485 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: year in two Yes, sir, yes, sir. So you know, 486 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: first of all, this was my first uh big movie role, um, 487 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: and it was an opportunity to work with Will and 488 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: there's there's several people in that cast that I've always 489 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: been fans of, and so for me, it was just 490 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: it was another surreal moment, you know, my first movie, 491 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: to be able to watch Will Smith, to learn from 492 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: him offset on set, and just um being that environment 493 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: and being a space that I on to, you know, 494 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: um aspired to one day. It was it was just 495 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: nothing but a blessing. And I was watching his work, 496 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: and I was watching what we were creating on the 497 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: movie set, and I just knew it was gonna be 498 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: something that was special. I knew it was gonna be 499 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: something that was gonna touch people's hearts, that was gonna 500 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: be a family movie that everybody that anybody can relate to. 501 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: And and I'm honestly, I'm just blessed to be a 502 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: part of it. It was a learning experience for me. 503 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: I was working on it, but I was I'm I'm 504 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: a fan of it, you know. I'm not just like, yeah, 505 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: I did it. I'm like, yo, we did something great. 506 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: They did something, they created something awesome, and I'm just 507 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: glad I could have been a part of it. And 508 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: then we're gonna shift gears and go over to the 509 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 1: starting opposite. All my ELPs loan career, another brother with 510 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: a loan career. All went back with him and Juice 511 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: when he was with Tupac. And then Michael Eally, you know, 512 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: he did the movie for me with Think Like a Man. 513 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,639 Speaker 1: Think Like a Man, too, Kevin. That was my project. 514 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: I was executive producer. So that's what Michael Eally and 515 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 1: I developed our relationship. And the movie was entitled The Boot. 516 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: He's entitled The Devil. You know. Yep uh. It's It's 517 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: funny because Michael Eally I met him in two thousand 518 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: and seventeen when I first started acting, and I was 519 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: doing background at the time, and I walked up straight 520 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: to him. He was doing background of we were doing 521 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: but I was doing background of being being Mary Jane, 522 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: and I walked you up to him. I introduced myself 523 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: and I sound's gonna be working with you one day. 524 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: And so uh, four years later we're on set together 525 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: and the w you know, Ohmar Epps, I mean, he's 526 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,360 Speaker 1: he's a beast. I learned so much from watching watching him, 527 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: working with him. I'm the youngest of four brothers in 528 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: that movie. He's like the third oldest and so playing 529 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: younger brother to somebody that you've been watching your whole life, um, 530 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: and being able to go back and forth with them, 531 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: like have conversation, have this camaraderie. I again, man, just 532 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: another moment that I was blessed with that I um, 533 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: I really appreciate. I'm glad I was able to sneak 534 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: up in that thing and do my and do and 535 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: and hold my own. You know, it's all learning experience 536 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: for me. It's all a growing experience for me, and 537 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,719 Speaker 1: I'm just glad that I'm able to do it at 538 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: a level with some people who I really admire. Well, 539 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: you know, I've I've done over a thousand shows Baing 540 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 1: and my staff. No, I get excited for very few people. 541 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 1: You wanted the people I was excited too to meet 542 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: through my conversations. Your star brother, you got You got 543 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 1: a long career, don't stop, just keep working hard. Uh, 544 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: you know, God is good, but it's good to even 545 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: people understand the value of opportunity. It worked hard for 546 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: you're seeing yourself through. You're not being afraid by uncertainty. 547 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: That stops a lot of people. But my man, I'm 548 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 1: just happy that I finally got the interview bone. I'm 549 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: sorry it took so long. I'm happy that I was 550 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: able to do it, and it's been a blessing having 551 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: like just being here with you, talking to you because 552 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 1: you're a legend in your old Thank you for real. 553 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: Like I was like, no, we gotta make this happen. 554 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: We gotta make this happen. Somethingad we was able to. 555 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: We will put it out there. He's the star of 556 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: the new game, the Game reboot on Paramount Plus. It 557 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: premiered no November eleven, is air and streaming. Don't miss it, 558 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: and you're gonna see him on you know. 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