Speaker 1: What's that bad? It's spooky. Hey, Joky, I'm really sure
Speaker 1: said he's coming to this way. Wait a minute, Hey,
Speaker 1: I ghosted I Nandez plice. Hey boo, it's me Ros.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I
Speaker 1: talk to people that I like about the para normal.
Speaker 1: I've got Nori Reid on the show today, who is
Speaker 1: a hilarious comedian and writer and dear friend of mine.
Speaker 1: But before we get to that, I got a story
Speaker 1: in my email from Katie, and this one is a
Speaker 1: little different than what we're used to, but let me
Speaker 1: tell you right now, it's terrifying. Katie writes, Hi Raz
Speaker 1: from Melbourne, Australia. I have a very creepy experience that
Speaker 1: happened to me that still affects me even today. So
Speaker 1: I grew up in this really old Queensland style house.
Speaker 1: It's a weird style I haven't really seen anywhere else.
Speaker 1: Huge place with two levels and a staircase outside at
Speaker 1: the front and the back. The kitchen, sitting room and
Speaker 1: dining is upstairs, and the bedrooms are downstairs that you
Speaker 1: have to access through a proper back door into a
Speaker 1: little foyer that leads to the bedrooms, so our back
Speaker 1: door was a little bit dodgy, and you could still
Speaker 1: easily open it with a credit card or a stick ooh,
Speaker 1: if you're me a bobby pin. It was creepy. So
Speaker 1: using the bathroom at night was also super creepy because
Speaker 1: the toilet room was off the foyer right next to
Speaker 1: that back door, and people were always leaving the door unlocked.
Speaker 1: A few times we walked in on someone ransacking a bedroom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very dodgy area. Anyway, there was a lot of ghostly
Speaker 1: stuff in the house, and my siblings had all claimed
Speaker 1: to see different things at different times. Me I was
Speaker 1: too boring for a ghosts to bother, apparently, because I
Speaker 1: never saw anything until I did. I was about eight
Speaker 1: years old, and every night I'd find myself waking up
Speaker 1: hearing the closet door open. I'd squeeze my eyes closed
Speaker 1: as something would come out, walk around fiddling with things
Speaker 1: on my desk or shelf, and then leave the room.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'd sneak a peek and yes, this tall, dark
Speaker 1: figure was moving around the room and then out into
Speaker 1: the foyer, and then it was gone. So one night,
Speaker 1: while my dad was tucking me in I started crying.
Speaker 1: I was over being afraid. Each and every night, I
Speaker 1: asked my dad to please search the closet. It was
Speaker 1: a huge, old fashioned but kind of cheap closet we
Speaker 1: inherited from my grandmother. He was very anti anything supernatural
Speaker 1: and refused, telling me I was being silly and how
Speaker 1: I need to think more logically and be more resilient,
Speaker 1: but I couldn't. I cried and cried, and finally he
Speaker 1: had had enough of it and went to open the
Speaker 1: closet door. The minute his hand touched the handle, he
Speaker 1: was violently thrown backwards. He fell over onto the floor,
Speaker 1: and this very real life human man came running out
Speaker 1: of the closet and out the door. Yes, he had
Speaker 1: been living in my closet. My dad surveyed the closet
Speaker 1: and he had actually broken the back of the closet
Speaker 1: and dug a hole into the wall recess where the
Speaker 1: fireplace used to be that had been taken out by
Speaker 1: the previous owner. He had made a bed in there
Speaker 1: and everything. So not really a supernatural story, sorry, but
Speaker 1: also just super creepy and something I'll never forget. I
Speaker 1: always check under beds in closets and triple check doors
Speaker 1: and windows now as an adult. Sorry for any secondhand
Speaker 1: trauma this may have caused you or your listeners, who
Speaker 1: will probably also now double check everything before bed. Lots
Speaker 1: of love and keep it spooky, Katie. Katie, thanks for
Speaker 1: sending that. I feel like this is an important one
Speaker 1: to talk about on a show like this because I
Speaker 1: just want everyone to know, yes, we want to believe
Speaker 1: that it's a ghost in our closet, but it might
Speaker 1: be a man living in your closet, So don't jump
Speaker 1: to ghosts every time, because it might be something even
Speaker 1: more terrifying. So it's like when you're young, and you know,
Speaker 1: people want to be like, oh, it's just a boogeyman,
Speaker 1: like whatever, and Katie's like, no, I'm seeing somebody. I swear.
Speaker 1: That has to be very validating but not comforting. Oh
Speaker 1: very scary. Okay, let's talk to my friend Nori Read
Speaker 1: and with the show, I am joined by a dear
Speaker 1: sweetie nor Read.
Speaker 2: It sounded like you're gonna say two more things, if
Speaker 2: I can be honest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, sometimes you go in these podcasts and
Speaker 1: they write out a long intro to say in front
Speaker 1: of you, and that's not this one just what comes
Speaker 1: to It's just sweetie, A dear sweetie. One of the
Speaker 1: funniest bitches. I know. It's true, hilarious comedian. See, I'm
Speaker 1: not a writer. I'm not like you.
Speaker 2: You're killing it. No like that. I'm this intros. It's
Speaker 2: the best that you I've ever had, truly.
Speaker 1: Aren't you. Didn't you tell me you're nominated for an Emmy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Nori, this is major Emmy nominated.
Speaker 1: Nominated writer of Raven's Home on the Disney Channel.
Speaker 2: Nori Reid, thank you. It's an honor to be nominated.
Speaker 1: It's an honor to have you. I've wanted you on
Speaker 1: this for a while. And you're busy, but we got you.
Speaker 2: But I think we're both we're both just busy, busy
Speaker 2: little bees.
Speaker 1: We are.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to talk about ghosts of you for
Speaker 1: a long time. And you're from Kentucky. Yeah, and you're
Speaker 1: from specifically Christian County.
Speaker 2: A little on the nose, A little on the nose,
Speaker 2: a little bit, yeah.
Speaker 1: Which is also where the famous Kellyville Hopkins Goblins sightings
Speaker 1: took place.
Speaker 2: Yes. But oh and it's also where Edgar Casey is from,
Speaker 2: who's like a very are you serious.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, Edgar Casey, the Sleeping Prophet yep, who is
Speaker 1: a very famous I mean wrote a billion books and
Speaker 1: psychic and prophet and you know have Comminition look him up.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. What's going on down there?
Speaker 2: You know, that's a great question because the other person
Speaker 2: who's of note, of major note is Bell Hooks. M.
Speaker 2: Bell Hooks is from Christian County, Kentucky's so wow, it
Speaker 2: produces some quirky you know, it's it's such a conservative
Speaker 2: hell hole of a place that it's interesting that it
Speaker 2: produces such eccentric I guess that's where eccentric people come from.
Speaker 2: Or it's like really like strict, very like basic place.
Speaker 2: I guess totally. I'm philosophizing. I'm like, sorry, no, I
Speaker 2: think it's true.
Speaker 1: But also, like the goblins made an appearance once, they
Speaker 1: never came back. They were like, this is not for us.
Speaker 2: It's not for us.
Speaker 1: They showed up one time and they're like, this is enough.
Speaker 1: I don't We're going to find somewhere.
Speaker 2: Else, and I don't blame them.
Speaker 1: Listeners, if you don't know what I'm talking about, listen
Speaker 1: to the last time Jess Ambrose was on the podcast
Speaker 1: We did a whole deep dive on this goblin sighting
Speaker 1: or were they aliens? I don't know, something like that.
Speaker 1: Do you believe in that kind of a thing?
Speaker 2: Aliens?
Speaker 1: All of it tell me everything that you believe in
Speaker 1: when it comes to this aliens. Could a goblin family really,
Speaker 1: you know, show up on somebody's house in Kentucky? What
Speaker 1: do you think?
Speaker 2: I do believe in aliens? It's just scientifically impossible that
Speaker 2: there wouldn't be. That's like for sure goblins. Listen, there's
Speaker 2: people that look like all sorts of stuff, and as
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, we're we're both trans like you know,
Speaker 2: people look like people can look like anything. And maybe
Speaker 2: there's some people out there that do they call themselves goblins?
Speaker 2: Maybe not? Do people look at them and go, that's
Speaker 2: a goblin? Maybe? Maybe? You know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've seen a couple of goblins as some trolls.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's the new like you know they have.
Speaker 2: Obviously there's bears, and there's in the gay community, there's otters.
Speaker 2: Now there's goblins.
Speaker 1: There's goblins. Yeah. And I wonder what those poor people
Speaker 1: felt when they saw this on the news, when they
Speaker 1: were like, wait, right, what the fuck. We literally just
Speaker 1: showed up at these people's house and we wanted to
Speaker 1: say hi, and now they're like goblins.
Speaker 2: We brought them cookies. We were saying welcome, welcome to
Speaker 2: the neighborhood. Yeah, and all of a sudden were goblins.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's kind of like how on the news sometimes
Speaker 1: they'll just like show like b roll of just like
Speaker 1: random people and it'll be like, I don't know, it'll
Speaker 1: say something that's just not great. It'll be like a
Speaker 1: health crisis is going on there, and you see yourself
Speaker 1: on the news. You're like, wait, what mind you show
Speaker 1: me that has happened to you? Actually, something did happen
Speaker 1: to me?
Speaker 2: Like this, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I this has nothing to do with ghost But when
Speaker 1: the vaccine first came out, I went to, uh, I
Speaker 1: can't wait. I went to a place that had the
Speaker 1: vaccine and it was outdoors and Telemundo News was there
Speaker 1: and they weren't filming anybody. They were all white people.
Speaker 1: And then as soon as they pulled out the cameras
Speaker 1: and they started filming me as I got my shot.
Speaker 2: That's because you're a star baby.
Speaker 1: But also I had hoop earrings on and I was
Speaker 1: like really is it? Because I have hoop ear. They
Speaker 1: thought they knew I was Latina. They were like a queen,
Speaker 1: we gotta get her. Absolutely okay. Anyway, so goblins, what
Speaker 1: about ghosts? Where are you at on that? I well, here, okay, wait, vaccines.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's like do I believe? I say yes to everything,
Speaker 2: and then you go, do you believe vaccine? I go no,
Speaker 2: absolutely not no. I mean with with ghosts. I keep
Speaker 2: approaching this from a scientific place for some reason.
Speaker 1: But okay, scholar, right.
Speaker 2: Ghosts, Like I go back to physics, and it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, energy can't be created or destroyed, right, And
Speaker 2: so I think about that and I go, okay, well,
Speaker 2: we have our physical body, but that's not we have
Speaker 2: like a spirit or whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 2: because our body turns to dust. But then our spirit
Speaker 2: is not just destroyed. It doesn't just distroy. I think
Speaker 2: energy continues to flow in the world. And then maybe that's.
Speaker 1: Ghosts when you talk about it that way, Yes, it
Speaker 1: seems absolutely like it has to has to go somewhere.
Speaker 1: Does it float away? Does it stick there?
Speaker 2: There's energy?
Speaker 1: Have you ever encountered a ghost?
Speaker 2: I think, so give it to me. Okay, I do
Speaker 2: think so. So I'm going to start this off by saying,
Speaker 2: my grandmother, who is Korean, was a kind of medium
Speaker 2: back in Korea. So my mom would tell me these
Speaker 2: stories of how like when she was growing up, people
Speaker 2: in the community would come to my grandmother to see
Speaker 2: their loved ones who had departed stop. Yes, yes, And
Speaker 2: so I grew up knowing that, and I always felt
Speaker 2: a little witchy. And then I met this Korean shaman
Speaker 2: later in life, and those are called moudong, like Mudong,
Speaker 2: that's Korean shaman. And they're non binary by the way.
Speaker 2: Their their gender transcends kind of our understanding of gender,
Speaker 2: so they're like gender queer or something like that. M h.
Speaker 2: And she told me that when a generation after the
Speaker 2: person who's gifted rejects it, it like doubles it for
Speaker 2: the next person. And my mom hated that my grandmother
Speaker 2: was a medium, and it like made her become a
Speaker 2: Christian because she was so like terrified by all of
Speaker 2: that stuff. She like completely denied it. And so now
Speaker 2: I'm transgender.
Speaker 1: And now you're a super medium.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she made me a moodong kind of
Speaker 2: a little bit. Wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, so tell me about you being a medium.
Speaker 2: Okay, So the story I was going to tell, and
Speaker 2: I just wanted to give some background to that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the story I was gonna tell is when I was
Speaker 2: like like four, maybe four five, I was still scared
Speaker 2: of the dark, and probably because who knows what I
Speaker 2: was seeing in the dark, but I was scared. I
Speaker 2: was scared of the dark. So I was scared to
Speaker 2: go to the bathroom by myself. Still am right, Still.
Speaker 1: I literally am scared of the dark and going to
Speaker 1: the bathroom by myself at night. Yeah, well, I mean
Speaker 1: I don't want to go with somebody, but like I'm
Speaker 1: like scared.
Speaker 2: So I went to the bathroom by myself, and I
Speaker 2: was feeling very scared, and I started kind of like
Speaker 2: talking to myself, and then I remember hearing a very
Speaker 2: distinct male voice, like a man, say, don't be afraid.
Speaker 2: And I was like what, I didn't see anything. I
Speaker 2: just heard that really distinct voice, and I ran out
Speaker 2: of the bathroom and I ran to my mom and
Speaker 2: I said, oh my god, oh my god, I heard
Speaker 2: this spirit that something, and her eyes got really big
Speaker 2: and she seemed really freaked out, and then she literally
Speaker 2: she grabbed me and she was that was Jesus. And
Speaker 2: I remember thinking you met JC. Yeah, I remember. I
Speaker 2: was like, I don't think that was Jesus. I was
Speaker 2: just like I was like, I don't know, like I
Speaker 2: could feel the con I could feel the manipulation.
Speaker 1: It might have been Jesus.
Speaker 2: I don't think it was.
Speaker 1: What if she I mean Christian County. If he's going
Speaker 1: to go anywhere, he's going to go to the place
Speaker 1: named after him. So do you feel like maybe that
Speaker 1: spirit was connected to the house or do you think
Speaker 1: it was just like a random medium visit from an ancestor.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I maybe it was Jesus. I mean,
Speaker 2: now I'm thinking about it. I'll wait a second. Maybe
Speaker 2: it was. And I don't know why I'm so I
Speaker 2: just don't want it to be Jesus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like can I just pee, like leave me alone?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that's the thing too. It's like I'm a
Speaker 2: little I was a little boy peeing like what Like
Speaker 2: that's weird.
Speaker 1: And also that the opposite effect happened, which is like,
Speaker 1: don't be scared.
Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, yeah right, it's kind of like okay,
Speaker 2: like mm hmm, scare me more. Yeah, you know, that's
Speaker 2: a very clear memory of growing up.
Speaker 1: But I want to know about you being a medium still.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's got to be in there.
Speaker 2: Well, I've always been a little witchy. I mean, I
Speaker 2: like I do terror readings. Sometimes you do, Yeah, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I want one. And I've had dreams and
Speaker 2: sometimes I have premonitions.
Speaker 1: Okay, this is not the this is not the show
Speaker 1: where you just like kind of oh, and I have
Speaker 1: premiss and also know you what's the premanent? We got
Speaker 1: to hear?
Speaker 2: See, Well, I don't like remember specific Like sometimes I'll
Speaker 2: have a dream and then details of it will happen,
Speaker 2: and then I'll go, oh, like, that's so weird. I like,
Speaker 2: I shouldn't even be going down this path because I
Speaker 2: don't have any like hard cold facts or stories to give.
Speaker 2: I've gone to different psychics and mediums, many of them
Speaker 2: separately have told me that my grandmother is a very
Speaker 2: strong spirit in my life. And I've had multiple psychics
Speaker 2: tell me that she saved me during childbirth because my
Speaker 2: mom had a very difficult childbirth. And I didn't tell
Speaker 2: them that. I did not even say that. They could
Speaker 2: just tell they look at me, they go, your mom
Speaker 2: had a difficult childbirth. They're like, you look wide, you're big.
Speaker 2: You're a big girl. No, I'm kidding, but they didn't
Speaker 2: even know that. And they're like, yeah, your grandmother is
Speaker 2: one who saved you.
Speaker 1: So wow.
Speaker 2: It's just in me in my bones. And I joked
Speaker 2: earlier about the transgender thing, but I really do. I
Speaker 2: do believe that my gender identity is not just about gender,
Speaker 2: but it's also cultural. It's a cultural thing for me
Speaker 2: where when I learned about the Mudong addition and how
Speaker 2: they don't really ascribe to any gender, I was like,
Speaker 2: oh wow, and it helped me have some context for myself.
Speaker 1: Totally. We've talked about this before in the show. There's
Speaker 1: been so many traditions around the world, even the conversation
Speaker 1: of ghosts, for example, like pretty much every country and
Speaker 1: they're different cultures within them have something to say about it,
Speaker 1: and that to me feels very validating. But also there's
Speaker 1: so many cultures around the world that have people that
Speaker 1: are somewhere in the middle of the binary or however
Speaker 1: you want to look at it, that aren't necessarily male
Speaker 1: or female, that are viewed as people of spiritual awareness
Speaker 1: or whatever it is. And I totally think that that's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I wish I had more concrete examples and
Speaker 2: stories to give up my witchiness.
Speaker 1: No, it's okay, But I want to know. Is this
Speaker 1: how you got the job writing for Raven? You said, listen,
Speaker 1: I have premonitions. Sometimes I dreamed that I would have
Speaker 1: this job.
Speaker 2: You know, what's so funny. I've never put that together
Speaker 2: ever in my life, that the one show that I've
Speaker 2: written on for two years is about a psychic. That's
Speaker 2: so funny. I didn't even Yeah, I never put that together.
Speaker 1: Do you go to psychics often?
Speaker 2: Not anymore, but I used to. Like when I first
Speaker 2: when I wanted to move to LA I was living
Speaker 2: in the Bay Area. I came down here and I
Speaker 2: went to the House of Intuition. Hell yeah, not knowing
Speaker 2: anything about it. I just saw it and I went, oh,
Speaker 2: that looks like a funny place. And so I went inside.
Speaker 1: Looks like a funny place.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's a funny looking place, house an intuition,
Speaker 2: What the fuck is that? And so I walked in,
Speaker 2: got a reading, and what's so funny is and no
Speaker 2: offense to I don't know, but like the lady was like,
Speaker 2: you're going to be pregnant, and I was like, I
Speaker 2: was like because like back in that I was more fishy,
Speaker 2: Like I feel like now like I've kind of let
Speaker 2: it all go. I'm just like a listen like you
Speaker 2: know whatever. But at that time I was kind of
Speaker 2: performing femininity a little bit more and she was like,
Speaker 2: You're gonna be pregnant and I was just like, oh
Speaker 2: my god. And I didn't even because when I get awkward,
Speaker 2: I was like thank you. I was like, yay, like
Speaker 2: thank you. So I was like thank you so much.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that kind of took me out of it.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, well, anything's possible.
Speaker 2: Maybe she knew I was she knew I was trans
Speaker 2: and thought that that's what I wanted, Like she thought
Speaker 2: that that's what like I needed as a trans woman,
Speaker 2: like a validation.
Speaker 1: Sometimes when I go to get like laser hair Remova
Speaker 1: or something, they'll do like a little survey at the
Speaker 1: top and they'll be like, are you pregnant? And I'm
Speaker 1: like no, Now what makes you ask that?
Speaker 2: Oh my god?
Speaker 1: Okay, tell me another story.
Speaker 2: Okay. So we had family in Saint Louis, and so
Speaker 2: we would go to Saint Louis every like once a
Speaker 2: year for like some sort of holiday or birthday or
Speaker 2: something something. Sorry, this isn't my story. I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: telling you someone else's story. Is that okay?
Speaker 1: That's okay? I mean, is it the Exorcist?
Speaker 2: Is this a famous I'm so sorry this is the Exorcist?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no, this is this is her
Speaker 2: own personal story. But I I'm telling it for her,
Speaker 2: so I don't. I don't want to set it up
Speaker 2: as like you know what, I'm just gonna keep talking
Speaker 2: and then we're gonna we're gonna go.
Speaker 1: Or just pretend it's yours. We won't fact check.
Speaker 2: No, I'm no. I'm a true teller. I will not lie.
Speaker 2: That was not Jesus.
Speaker 1: I'm a comic. I tell the truth.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to Saint Louis and I stay with
Speaker 2: my cousin and his wife. I really want to say,
Speaker 2: like their race and that has nothing to do with anything.
Speaker 2: I just go. My cousin's Korean and his wife was white.
Speaker 2: I don't even know. I want that doesn't have anything
Speaker 2: to do with anything, but I wanted to say it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's your story.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of telling the story as if I've never
Speaker 2: told a story before in my life, Like I don't
Speaker 2: even know how to tell the story. So anyways, it's
Speaker 2: late at night and we're telling each other's stories and
Speaker 2: someone was like, oh, like, does anyone have any ghost stories?
Speaker 2: And she was like okay, She's like I actually do.
Speaker 2: She's like, I have one, and she said the growing up.
Speaker 1: This is the white woman. Yes, okay, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to make sure.
Speaker 2: So she was like, I was staying over at a
Speaker 2: friend's house and they lived in a house that was haunted.
Speaker 1: Was the friend white?
Speaker 2: Probably?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Well I don't know. I mean she mirrored a Korean
Speaker 2: man's maybe who knows. Okay, So she said that she
Speaker 2: was doing a sleepover at her friend's house and it
Speaker 2: was known that this house was kind of spooky because
Speaker 2: it had a history, like someone was murdered there. It
Speaker 2: was just like a weird house. Okay, you go, this
Speaker 2: is haunted mansion. And I go, okay, this.
Speaker 1: Is the conjuring too. I've heard this story.
Speaker 2: No, this is real. But basically, she was like, late
Speaker 2: at night, she's having a hard time sleeping. She was up,
Speaker 2: her friend was sleep so she like turns over in
Speaker 2: bed and then she starts feeling her friend like stroking
Speaker 2: her head, and she was like, oh okay, I can't sleep.
Speaker 2: So he a friend is just being nice and she
Speaker 2: turns around and her friend is asleep and her hair
Speaker 2: someone is holding up her own hair updo up to
Speaker 2: and it's it's not her friend, it is some sort
Speaker 2: of spirit. And so she screams and wakes up her
Speaker 2: friend and tells her what happened, and her friend's like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, Oh my god, like weird shit happens
Speaker 2: all the time in this house, Like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Okay, here's where I think you play dards this story
Speaker 1: from what me. I had the exact same thing happened before.
Speaker 2: Okay, things can happen to multiple people, ros not you.
Speaker 1: You don't own I invented.
Speaker 2: This, and you're the only transcomic in La Listen.
Speaker 1: I didn't invite you here to fight. It was not plagiarism.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I said that, but this happened to me.
Speaker 1: I've told this story before in the show Oh My God.
Speaker 1: One time, me and my friend Johnny Reinhart went to
Speaker 1: a haunted B and B and we're sleeping in a
Speaker 1: bed together and I felt somebody like touch the top
Speaker 1: of my head because I had the blankets over my head.
Speaker 1: I was so scared, and I felt somebody pull the
Speaker 1: blanket back, like they put their fingers underneath the blanket
Speaker 1: and pull it back from my head. And I thought
Speaker 1: it was Johnny and I was like, oh, I'm fine, Johnny,
Speaker 1: I like pulled the blanket off, and I look over
Speaker 1: and he's fast asleep. And the ghost did not style
Speaker 1: my hair.
Speaker 2: Okay. What I'm getting from this is that ghosts are
Speaker 2: kind of obsessed with hair.
Speaker 1: They don't understand boundaries.
Speaker 2: Because they don't have theirs.
Speaker 1: Well, that's true.
Speaker 2: They miss their hair and they see our hair is
Speaker 2: kind of ratty, it's not well kept. Sorry, I'm ra sorry. Wow,
Speaker 2: I didn't mean it like that. Wow, And they go,
Speaker 2: I want to fix that a little bit. Yeah, good intentions.
Speaker 2: And then we freak out. You know, the man that
Speaker 2: was watching me and pe like, he wasn't trying to
Speaker 2: be creepy. Jeez, No he was. Yeah, he was creepy.
Speaker 2: Probably he was a creepy ghost.
Speaker 1: Don't be scared. Before we get into our first segment,
Speaker 1: I just want to double check. Do you have any
Speaker 1: other stories you'd like to share? You've given us enough
Speaker 1: this is great.
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like I feel like if you
Speaker 2: could grade me on my ghostories, I feel I.
Speaker 1: Got to add No, they're very good. I just want
Speaker 1: to make sure so I don't miss anything.
Speaker 2: I didn't plage your eyes. I didn't plagiari anything. Raz
Speaker 2: I know the stories are true.
Speaker 1: I don't think you did. Okay, all right, it's time
Speaker 1: for our first segment today. Can I show you it
Speaker 1: haunted eBay doll? Yes, this is a segment I like
Speaker 1: to call the dolls are living. Okay, here's what I do, Nori,
Speaker 1: I go to eBay and I find alledged haunted dolls
Speaker 1: that are currently up for sale. Jieha, could you please
Speaker 1: show Nori and I who we've got here today. I'd
Speaker 1: like you to meet Olivia.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: She's gorgeous. Okay, so she's got like a Victorian dress on.
Speaker 1: She kind of looks like a fifty a seventy year
Speaker 1: old woman that has like the best face lift, like
Speaker 1: not a wrinkle.
Speaker 2: Who's her surgeon?
Speaker 1: Literally?
Speaker 2: Who is the surgeon? Because it's giving like she's got
Speaker 2: an ffs like with an inch of her life.
Speaker 1: Oh delay, it's very good.
Speaker 2: There's no man, no man in that face. It's like
Speaker 2: that nose, the lip arch.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, no, it's all good, it's very good. And
Speaker 1: she's great at blush. And then the look that she's
Speaker 1: wearing it's very Victoria. It's like when you go to
Speaker 1: a historical site and then there's like a lady in
Speaker 1: the gift shop that's like dressed like a Victorian lady.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what that is. She knows.
Speaker 2: She looks like, oh my god, the actress, the actress
Speaker 2: and gilded age, who's like the older one.
Speaker 1: Who's like mean, I'm not familiar.
Speaker 2: She's also like the good wife. And for the listeners
Speaker 2: out there, I think a lot of them won't know
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. But she's the old, mean woman
Speaker 2: and gilded age who's like very old worlds. Oh but
Speaker 2: they're not gonna be able to see the doll.
Speaker 1: Well, you actually ken if you go to ghosted by
Speaker 1: Ras on Instagram and go to the story highlight tab
Speaker 1: that says dolls. Ooh, she has got some kind of
Speaker 1: some bobbles. Yeah, it almost looks like a key, like
Speaker 1: when like a janitor has like a key ring. She
Speaker 1: has like balls connected to chains. There's definitely like a
Speaker 1: full on link chain. On there and I don't know
Speaker 1: what she's doing with that, but she does come with
Speaker 1: a biography. So let's read here about Olivia. Who knows
Speaker 1: her worth? She is going for two hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: dollars the person who's selling Olivia rights. Welcome, May I
Speaker 1: present Olivia for your consideration. Before we even start on
Speaker 1: this spirit, I have to admit I have a hard
Speaker 1: time understanding her comments things like SNM and bondage. She
Speaker 1: has indicated that she derives pleasure with this type of
Speaker 1: sexual nature. Olivia, okay, this is Lewde. Sorry I didn't
Speaker 1: warn you about this. This is okay with your story. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Olivia likes both ways and sexual partners that like to
Speaker 1: explore their sexuality. I know I'm getting too old when
Speaker 1: I have to look up with the spirit is trying
Speaker 1: to impart to me. Olivia has a habit of coming
Speaker 1: into your thoughts during the day. I have to admit
Speaker 1: it can be very distracting. She only wants to pleasure
Speaker 1: you mind and body. The dreams are explicit and very naughty.
Speaker 1: She derives her pleasure from your pleasure. Olivia's background is
Speaker 1: very simple. Okay, here's sad part. She died of a disease.
Speaker 2: Okay, whatever, and now she's horny as hell.
Speaker 1: She really doesn't like to talk about herself, only what
Speaker 1: she wants to do to you. I believe that she
Speaker 1: was very sexually active during her earth life and wants
Speaker 1: to continue in her spirit life as well. Don't be
Speaker 1: surprised if you feel yourself become sexually aroused for no reason.
Speaker 1: Just know she is getting you ready for herself.
Speaker 2: Okay. I think we can assume the disease that she
Speaker 2: died from is probably a venereal disease, probably like a
Speaker 2: syphilis or.
Speaker 1: A yeah back in the day, maybe yeah.
Speaker 2: Because she's slutty.
Speaker 1: As hell, she's sex positive.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, this is a sex positive podcast. I forgot that.
Speaker 2: So this is a new type of culture to me.
Speaker 1: Oh, welcome to my culture.
Speaker 2: And something and something that I'm learning is that is
Speaker 2: haunted dolls like is it like sexual like?
Speaker 1: Is it like sometimes?
Speaker 2: So? Not all the time?
Speaker 1: Not all the time?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: The thought is that a person named Olivia has died.
Speaker 1: She was freaky as hell, and somehow, some way she
Speaker 1: found herself inside of this doll and now for two
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty dollars, she's on eBay.
Speaker 2: I believe it all. I mean, because like here's the thing,
Speaker 2: Like this is a doll, but this is a doll
Speaker 2: of a grown woman. I mean dolls are usually of children.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's not like a little girl doll or
Speaker 1: a baby doll. That's a woman.
Speaker 2: This is not a little girl and it's not like
Speaker 2: a Barbie doll either, because like this is an old
Speaker 2: woman who's a doll. Yeah, and there's something very about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think the keys also, because she's holding all those keys.
Speaker 2: I think she has like sex like sex dungeon where
Speaker 2: there's like lovers and cages and stuff.
Speaker 1: Totally, she's like pleasure dom Like yeah, she says, S
Speaker 1: and M and bondage are the some of the words
Speaker 1: that have come through when they've tried to communicate with
Speaker 1: her as a third generation medium. Are you picking up
Speaker 1: any of this to be true?
Speaker 2: Thank you? Thank you? Yeah. Yeah, you know. If I
Speaker 2: can put on my Moudong hat, which is a real hat,
Speaker 2: because they were really they do what they were. They
Speaker 2: wear special hats for different ceremonies.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I want you to wear one of those.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have any. I should I should.
Speaker 1: Order one, get one.
Speaker 2: I want to say that I believe this one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: I think that there's something very believable about this. This
Speaker 2: the story, and the more that I look at Olivia
Speaker 2: his face, the more she's telling me, Yeah, this is
Speaker 2: all true. Bitch. I'm a horny ass old.
Speaker 1: Lady, and she will make you horny.
Speaker 2: Who's gonna make you horny in your dreams and in
Speaker 2: your life? Speaking of hair, I feel like that, you know,
Speaker 2: take a shot every time we say hair because this
Speaker 2: is that's the theme of today's show. Her hair is disgusting.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, she's got bangs, but then she's also
Speaker 1: got sort of like a krusty the clown kind of
Speaker 1: like on the sides. I mean it's really sticking out.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's like sex hair or something like. It's like, oh,
Speaker 2: she's banged so much that her hair's crazy as hell.
Speaker 2: But she wants you to know, and she wants you
Speaker 2: to know, but she needs a brush. She needs to
Speaker 2: have sex with a brush on her hair. That's what
Speaker 2: she needs to meet up with.
Speaker 1: Right. Here's what I relate to her. I put a
Speaker 1: lot of time into makeup and zero time into hair.
Speaker 2: Your hair is gorgeous. You have the most You're known
Speaker 2: for your hair being gorgeous.
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, but I don't know how to style it.
Speaker 1: I usually have somebody else do it for me if
Speaker 1: I can. But her face is flawless. Anyway, enough about her,
Speaker 1: Can I play you some ghost voices?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's time for EVP or ev pase. Do you
Speaker 1: know the term EVP?
Speaker 2: I do. There was a time in my life when
Speaker 2: I was a teenager. I was obsessed. I would listen
Speaker 2: to them at night and scare myself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I do. It stands for electronic voice phenomena.
Speaker 1: So it's anytime a ghost hunter believes they've captured a
Speaker 1: ghost speaking for anyone that doesn't know. I go to
Speaker 1: the Internet and I find EVPs, and I want to
Speaker 1: play two of them. Tell me what you hear, and
Speaker 1: then I'm going to give you some options, the correct
Speaker 1: answer being what the ghost hunter believes the ghost to say.
Speaker 1: All right. This first one was posted on an account
Speaker 1: on YouTube called Haunted or Not, and it was captured
Speaker 1: by Mark and Debbie Constantine at a place in Kentucky
Speaker 1: that is very famous in the paranormal world. In Wilder, Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Bobby Mackie's music World. Have you ever heard of it? No? Oh,
Speaker 1: this place. I'm sure her IMDb is filled with credits
Speaker 1: because all the ghost hunting shows go to Bobby Mackie's
Speaker 1: Music World. It's like a country music venue that's like
Speaker 1: crawling with demons.
Speaker 2: Kentucky is the most haunted state in the world. It
Speaker 2: seems like.
Speaker 1: I mean, I spent two weeks there on the television
Speaker 1: show I'm on called Living for the Dead. Yes, and
Speaker 1: we went to Waverley Hills Sanatorium. We also went to
Speaker 1: the Palace Theater in Louisville and and very haunted both
Speaker 1: of them. Okay, what is this ghost saying at Bobby
Speaker 1: Mack's Music World. Now, there's definitely uh, it's not that
Speaker 1: it's underneath that there is a soft kind of feminine voice.
Speaker 1: Let's play it again like that. Yeah, okay, here we go.
Speaker 1: Oh you are my batty. You revery good sexy, James Babby.
Speaker 2: I mean she's fish for sure. She's definitely fish. She's
Speaker 2: like she's a doll. She's like she's very very fam
Speaker 2: like kind of like feeling her box.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Olivia.
Speaker 2: It's Olivia. Does she travel?
Speaker 1: She says, you thought you were done with me and
Speaker 1: the show. Well I'm back, bitch.
Speaker 2: With the clickity clack. It almost sounds like, you know,
Speaker 2: the vogue like voguing tracks.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, or it might be also like you know
Speaker 1: that thing where you clap to give emphasis, you know,
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not doing this?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Something I'm confused about with with ESP what's
Speaker 2: it called EVPs? EVP? Soam I'm ESPs. It's something different.
Speaker 2: What I'm confusing Why don't they ever capture like gay voices?
Speaker 2: Please correct me if I'm wrong, But I never was
Speaker 2: hearing any like hey, like hey girl, like I love
Speaker 2: that tracks, girl.
Speaker 1: I mean there was there was a moment when I
Speaker 1: was go hunting I'm Living for the Dad on Hulu
Speaker 1: and Disney Plus around the World where I heard a ghost.
Speaker 2: Say yes, okay see.
Speaker 1: Which led me to think, are you gay? And I
Speaker 1: didn't say anything else after that.
Speaker 2: Oh definitely a queen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's get back to this though. Do you
Speaker 1: have any guesses? I can give you some options.
Speaker 2: I think she was ordering food because I was hearing like,
Speaker 2: you don't want you to go pull up to a
Speaker 2: drive and you go, I guess I want to number
Speaker 2: two like a fries.
Speaker 1: Yes, literally, yeah, very relatable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hi, Hi.
Speaker 1: Can I have an order of onion rings?
Speaker 2: Is the ice cream machine working?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And meanwhile, I'm on the phone with my friend.
Speaker 1: One second, girl? One second? Hi, can I have a number?
Speaker 2: Three?
Speaker 1: Girl? I'm still here. One second. I'm on the phone, yeah,
Speaker 1: with pickles pickers? Okay, is it a I need to
Speaker 1: see those boobs? Is it B I'm the guy they
Speaker 1: speak to?
Speaker 2: Is it C?
Speaker 1: Hi, it's really nice to meet you? Or d I
Speaker 1: know your man? His name miss Steven? Okay, Oh, it's
Speaker 1: one of those. Now let me play it again. I
Speaker 1: think it's see you think that it is high. It's
Speaker 1: really nice to meet you.
Speaker 2: I do. I heard a meet. I heard a meet
Speaker 2: loud and clear.
Speaker 1: Well, they believe it's I'm the guy they speak to.
Speaker 2: Why would she call herself a guy?
Speaker 1: This is what they think. Wait, let's hear it again.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Now wait a minute. Maybe is that a human speaking
Speaker 1: and that's the feminine voice? And the clap clap is
Speaker 1: the ghost?
Speaker 2: No? We play it one more time, and I want
Speaker 2: to hear the clackery clack. Oh. No, I think you're right.
Speaker 2: It's the it's the voice. It's the voice. All right, Well,
Speaker 2: I think that they misgendered that ghost, right.
Speaker 1: Maybe what she was saying is I'm the girl that
Speaker 1: they speak to. Here's another one. Okay, this one comes
Speaker 1: from TikTok and it was posted by Psychic Underscore pilot
Speaker 1: Underscore Jude, who a psychic pilot. Oh my god, imagine
Speaker 1: if you were like on a plane and the pilot
Speaker 1: was like, over the mic, I have a feeling we're
Speaker 1: gonna land this plane in about fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: What. I don't know where this is from. What is
Speaker 1: this ghost saying?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Wait? Is he eating is like
Speaker 2: the ghost eating a chuck roast dinner? Is he eating
Speaker 2: a bunch of whoppers like the candy? I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: That was an assault to my ears. I'm sorry, listeners, Okay,
Speaker 1: I think it's done with a spirit box, which is
Speaker 1: why you hear underneath, which is it's scanning radio frequencies
Speaker 1: and it's picking up something. I don't know if this
Speaker 1: voice is coming through a device like that or if
Speaker 1: it's happening simultaneously. But let's listen to good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is that voice of the others.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it almost sounds like there's a.
Speaker 2: Can. It sounds like when you say are you happy
Speaker 2: to be on Paris?
Speaker 1: You know the two different voices. You know what? It
Speaker 1: just reminded me of, Wake me up, Wake me up.
Speaker 1: Maybe this is effinescence coming through the rate you. It's
Speaker 1: just an idea. Okay? Is it a what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Girl?
Speaker 1: No? Is it B? I'm trying to find a way home?
Speaker 1: Is it? C? What a funny way to go? Or
Speaker 1: D Let the bodies hit the flow? All right, it's
Speaker 1: one of those.
Speaker 2: I think B.
Speaker 1: Psychic pilot Jude thinks that it is. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: find a way home. Let me play it again now
Speaker 1: that we know that. Oh, it's like I'm trying to
Speaker 1: find a way.
Speaker 2: Oh I heard it. I heard it.
Speaker 1: They say home with the second kind of voice.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to.
Speaker 1: Find a way.
Speaker 2: That's fascinating.
Speaker 1: All right, let's wrap this up. Okay, let me just
Speaker 1: real quick so we can cover much ground here as
Speaker 1: we can. Because you're busy, I don't know when you'll
Speaker 1: be back. I'm just going to ask you about some
Speaker 1: paranormal phenomenal. I'm wondering your thoughts on it. If maybe
Speaker 1: it'll inspire a story that you have. We'll see, we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. What do you think of curses? Do
Speaker 1: you believe in that as a concept.
Speaker 2: I believe in intergenerational trauma okay, which is almost like
Speaker 2: a curse, right that you know, the ones of us
Speaker 2: that finally go to therapy have to break hmmm, So
Speaker 2: I believe in generational curses. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think that someone can put a curse on someone?
Speaker 2: I think someone can have such a negative energy towards
Speaker 2: another person that they send that negative energy to that person.
Speaker 1: Mmmmm yeah, I could see that. Have you done that
Speaker 1: to me?
Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this, I think you've done a really
Speaker 2: good job overcoming a lot of those curses. I try
Speaker 2: to send you because you're thriving and thank you. Good
Speaker 2: for you because you're thriving, and nothing, nothing I sent
Speaker 2: was able to stick.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah. What about Wiji boards?
Speaker 2: Well, I've done a Wigi border too, and it always
Speaker 2: feels so real. It's like who's moving that? Like?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I always feel like when every
Speaker 2: time we wigi, there's always one bossy person who's kind
Speaker 2: of maybe pushing a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Always yeah, But you know what, I you know,
Speaker 1: I always have long nails, and I would love to
Speaker 1: do it with like another doll with long nails, so
Speaker 1: we can barely even touch the damn thing. That would help. Mmm.
Speaker 1: What about Bigfoot?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Always a controversial one.
Speaker 2: I've dated them, you did, I did, so he's real.
Speaker 2: I've never talked about.
Speaker 1: This, okay, exclusive, Yeah.
Speaker 2: We dated it for well, it dates a strong word.
Speaker 2: We hooked up for a little bit.
Speaker 1: How did you find him?
Speaker 2: Well, it's really how he finds you. I mean I
Speaker 2: was camping by yourself. Yeah, sometimes you feel a little lonely,
Speaker 2: go camping just to go to touch with nature. And
Speaker 2: mm hmm suddenly behind me, you know, I hear a
Speaker 2: you Okay. At first I want to be like, oh
Speaker 2: my fucking you know, I want to be like.
Speaker 1: It could have been Jesus.
Speaker 2: No it wasn't Jesus. It was big But you know,
Speaker 2: no celebrity wants to hear that and like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: you're Jennifer Aniston.
Speaker 1: Like, I know, I hate when people do that to me.
Speaker 2: I know that happens to you a lot. That happens
Speaker 2: to a lot. So I played it cool and I said, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm okay, but you know, and then he sat down.
Speaker 2: We kind of talked. We have a lot in common,
Speaker 2: same values and stuff. So you do we hooked up? Yeah,
Speaker 2: we hooked up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Is he pretty like progressive and all that.
Speaker 2: No, he's extremely far right. But he has a huge dick.
Speaker 1: It was okay, yeah, well big feet. You know what
Speaker 1: that means, big feet.
Speaker 2: And you know these you know, these far right guys,
Speaker 2: they love the girls.
Speaker 1: Oh, of course they do.
Speaker 2: He was living, he was waiting for a lonely doll
Speaker 2: to be out in the woods.
Speaker 1: God, that is such a gift to him. Good for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So you know, ultimately we kinda you know,
Speaker 2: we didn't agree on some of the Supreme Supreme Court stuff.
Speaker 1: So ah, but you had a lot in common.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You both went out in the woods that day and
Speaker 1: you both pitched a tent.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, Nori Reid, thank you so much for joining me.
Speaker 2: What a way to end, What a beautiful way to end.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, can you tell people where to find you and
Speaker 1: and all the stuff you got going on? This is
Speaker 1: going to be out in the beginning of the year.
Speaker 2: Well, happy New Year to everyone. Find me on Instagram.
Speaker 2: It's you know, my name, Nori Reid. And then on Twitter,
Speaker 2: I am real Nori Reid and yeah, I'm performing all
Speaker 2: the time in LA. I have the second iteration of
Speaker 2: Transit Girls, which raws crush.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that show.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, we're doing a second version in the new year,
Speaker 2: So go ahead and go to Alesion dot com and
Speaker 2: get your tickets if they're still available, because they'll probably
Speaker 2: be sought out.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's in La. Stand Up a fantastic trans queer
Speaker 1: celebration of comedy at the Allusion Theater.
Speaker 2: So funny. Well, thanks for doing this, Nori, thank you,
Speaker 2: thank you, Roz.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Nori read Hey, make sure
Speaker 1: you check out my personal instagram at Roz Hernandez. I've
Speaker 1: got my merch there and different tour dates and all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. I love you all, both living
Speaker 1: and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me,
Speaker 1: don't haunt me. Hey back, this has been an exactly
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Speaker 1: My senior producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer
Speaker 1: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and
Speaker 1: sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker
Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the
Speaker 1: hair raising Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by
Speaker 1: the spine chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky
Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the Terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced
Speaker 1: by the Chilling Karen Kilgareth, the Spookky Georgia Hard Start,
Speaker 1: and the Frightening Danielle Kramer.