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Speaker 1: What's that bad? It's spooky. Hey, Joky, I'm really sure

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Speaker 1: I ghosted I Nandez plice. Hey boo, it's me Ros.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I

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Speaker 1: talk to people that I like about the para normal.

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Speaker 1: I've got Nori Reid on the show today, who is

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Speaker 1: But before we get to that, I got a story

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Speaker 1: in my email from Katie, and this one is a

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Speaker 1: little different than what we're used to, but let me

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Speaker 1: tell you right now, it's terrifying. Katie writes, Hi Raz

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Speaker 1: from Melbourne, Australia. I have a very creepy experience that

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Speaker 1: I grew up in this really old Queensland style house.

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Speaker 1: It's a weird style I haven't really seen anywhere else.

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Speaker 1: little foyer that leads to the bedrooms, so our back

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Speaker 1: door was a little bit dodgy, and you could still

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Speaker 1: easily open it with a credit card or a stick ooh,

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Speaker 1: if you're me a bobby pin. It was creepy. So

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Speaker 1: A few times we walked in on someone ransacking a bedroom. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: very dodgy area. Anyway, there was a lot of ghostly

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Speaker 1: stuff in the house, and my siblings had all claimed

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Speaker 1: to see different things at different times. Me I was

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Speaker 1: too boring for a ghosts to bother, apparently, because I

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Speaker 1: never saw anything until I did. I was about eight

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Speaker 1: as something would come out, walk around fiddling with things

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Speaker 1: Sometimes I'd sneak a peek and yes, this tall, dark

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Speaker 1: while my dad was tucking me in I started crying.

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Speaker 1: I was over being afraid. Each and every night, I

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Speaker 1: inherited from my grandmother. He was very anti anything supernatural

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Speaker 1: and this very real life human man came running out

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Speaker 1: and windows now as an adult. Sorry for any secondhand

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Speaker 1: of love and keep it spooky, Katie. Katie, thanks for

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Speaker 1: sending that. I feel like this is an important one

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Speaker 1: just want everyone to know, yes, we want to believe

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Speaker 1: to ghosts every time, because it might be something even

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Speaker 1: more terrifying. So it's like when you're young, and you know,

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Speaker 1: That has to be very validating but not comforting. Oh

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Speaker 1: very scary. Okay, let's talk to my friend Nori Read

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Speaker 1: and with the show, I am joined by a dear

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Speaker 1: sweetie nor Read.

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Speaker 2: It sounded like you're gonna say two more things, if

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Speaker 2: I can be honest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, sometimes you go in these podcasts and

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Speaker 1: they write out a long intro to say in front

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Speaker 1: of you, and that's not this one just what comes

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Speaker 1: to It's just sweetie, A dear sweetie. One of the

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Speaker 1: funniest bitches. I know. It's true, hilarious comedian. See, I'm

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Speaker 1: not a writer. I'm not like you.

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Speaker 2: You're killing it. No like that. I'm this intros. It's

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Speaker 1: Aren't you. Didn't you tell me you're nominated for an Emmy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Nori, this is major Emmy nominated.

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Speaker 1: Nominated writer of Raven's Home on the Disney Channel.

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Speaker 2: Nori Reid, thank you. It's an honor to be nominated.

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Speaker 1: It's an honor to have you. I've wanted you on

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Speaker 1: this for a while. And you're busy, but we got you.

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Speaker 2: But I think we're both we're both just busy, busy

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Speaker 1: But I wanted to talk about ghosts of you for

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Speaker 2: A little on the nose, A little on the nose,

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Speaker 1: Which is also where the famous Kellyville Hopkins Goblins sightings

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Speaker 2: Yes. But oh and it's also where Edgar Casey is from,

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Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, Edgar Casey, the Sleeping Prophet yep, who is

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. What's going on down there?

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Speaker 2: You know, that's a great question because the other person

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Speaker 2: Bell Hooks is from Christian County, Kentucky's so wow, it

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Speaker 2: produces some quirky you know, it's it's such a conservative

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Speaker 2: Or it's like really like strict, very like basic place.

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Speaker 1: But also, like the goblins made an appearance once, they

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Speaker 1: They showed up one time and they're like, this is enough.

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Speaker 1: I don't We're going to find somewhere.

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Speaker 1: Listeners, if you don't know what I'm talking about, listen

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Speaker 1: to the last time Jess Ambrose was on the podcast

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Speaker 1: We did a whole deep dive on this goblin sighting

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Speaker 1: or were they aliens? I don't know, something like that.

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Speaker 1: All of it tell me everything that you believe in

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Speaker 1: when it comes to this aliens. Could a goblin family really,

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Speaker 2: I do believe in aliens? It's just scientifically impossible that

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Speaker 2: there wouldn't be. That's like for sure goblins. Listen, there's

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Speaker 1: I've seen a couple of goblins as some trolls.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's the new like you know they have.

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Speaker 2: Obviously there's bears, and there's in the gay community, there's otters.

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Speaker 2: Now there's goblins.

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Speaker 1: There's goblins. Yeah. And I wonder what those poor people

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Speaker 2: We brought them cookies. We were saying welcome, welcome to

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's kind of like how on the news sometimes

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Speaker 1: me that has happened to you? Actually, something did happen

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Speaker 2: Like this, Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: I this has nothing to do with ghost But when

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Speaker 1: And then as soon as they pulled out the cameras

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Speaker 1: we gotta get her. Absolutely okay. Anyway, so goblins, what

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Speaker 1: about ghosts? Where are you at on that? I well, here, okay, wait, vaccines.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it's like do I believe? I say yes to everything,

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Speaker 2: Ghosts, Like I go back to physics, and it's like,

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Speaker 1: Ghosts when you talk about it that way, Yes, it

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Speaker 1: Does it float away? Does it stick there?

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Speaker 1: Have you ever encountered a ghost?

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Speaker 2: I think, so give it to me. Okay, I do

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Speaker 2: think so. So I'm going to start this off by saying,

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Speaker 2: Their their gender transcends kind of our understanding of gender,

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Speaker 2: And she told me that when a generation after the

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Speaker 2: the next person. And my mom hated that my grandmother

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Speaker 1: And now you're a super medium.

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Speaker 1: Totally. We've talked about this before in the show. There's

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Speaker 2: You know, what's so funny. I've never put that together

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Speaker 1: Okay, tell me another story.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So we had family in Saint Louis, and so

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Speaker 2: No, I'm no. I'm a true teller. I will not lie.

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Speaker 2: No, this is real. But basically, she was like, late

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Speaker 1: You don't own I invented.

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Speaker 1: I didn't invite you here to fight. It was not plagiarism.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry I said that, but this happened to me.

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Speaker 2: kind of obsessed with hair.

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00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: They don't understand boundaries.

435
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,719
Speaker 2: Because they don't have theirs.

436
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: Well, that's true.

437
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 2: They miss their hair and they see our hair is

438
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 2: kind of ratty, it's not well kept. Sorry, I'm ra sorry. Wow,

439
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: I didn't mean it like that. Wow, And they go,

440
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 2: I want to fix that a little bit. Yeah, good intentions.

441
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 2: And then we freak out. You know, the man that

442
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 2: was watching me and pe like, he wasn't trying to

443
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 2: be creepy. Jeez, No he was. Yeah, he was creepy.

444
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: Probably he was a creepy ghost.

445
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 1: Don't be scared. Before we get into our first segment,

446
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: I just want to double check. Do you have any

447
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: other stories you'd like to share? You've given us enough

448
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: this is great.

449
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 2: You know, I feel like I feel like if you

450
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: could grade me on my ghostories, I feel I.

451
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: Got to add No, they're very good. I just want

452
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,919
Speaker 1: to make sure so I don't miss anything.

453
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 2: I didn't plage your eyes. I didn't plagiari anything. Raz

454
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: I know the stories are true.

455
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 1: I don't think you did. Okay, all right, it's time

456
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: for our first segment today. Can I show you it

457
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 1: haunted eBay doll? Yes, this is a segment I like

458
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: to call the dolls are living. Okay, here's what I do, Nori,

459
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: I go to eBay and I find alledged haunted dolls

460
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: that are currently up for sale. Jieha, could you please

461
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 1: show Nori and I who we've got here today. I'd

462
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 1: like you to meet Olivia.

463
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

464
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: She's gorgeous. Okay, so she's got like a Victorian dress on.

465
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: She kind of looks like a fifty a seventy year

466
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: old woman that has like the best face lift, like

467
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: not a wrinkle.

468
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 2: Who's her surgeon?

469
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: Literally?

470
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,959
Speaker 2: Who is the surgeon? Because it's giving like she's got

471
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: an ffs like with an inch of her life.

472
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: Oh delay, it's very good.

473
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 2: There's no man, no man in that face. It's like

474
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 2: that nose, the lip arch.

475
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 1: Like yeah, no, it's all good, it's very good. And

476
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 1: she's great at blush. And then the look that she's

477
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: wearing it's very Victoria. It's like when you go to

478
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 1: a historical site and then there's like a lady in

479
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: the gift shop that's like dressed like a Victorian lady.

480
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: That's kind of what that is. She knows.

481
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: She looks like, oh my god, the actress, the actress

482
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: and gilded age, who's like the older one.

483
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: Who's like mean, I'm not familiar.

484
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 2: She's also like the good wife. And for the listeners

485
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: out there, I think a lot of them won't know

486
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. But she's the old, mean woman

487
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 2: and gilded age who's like very old worlds. Oh but

488
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: they're not gonna be able to see the doll.

489
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: Well, you actually ken if you go to ghosted by

490
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: Ras on Instagram and go to the story highlight tab

491
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: that says dolls. Ooh, she has got some kind of

492
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: some bobbles. Yeah, it almost looks like a key, like

493
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: when like a janitor has like a key ring. She

494
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: has like balls connected to chains. There's definitely like a

495
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 1: full on link chain. On there and I don't know

496
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: what she's doing with that, but she does come with

497
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: a biography. So let's read here about Olivia. Who knows

498
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: her worth? She is going for two hundred and twenty

499
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: dollars the person who's selling Olivia rights. Welcome, May I

500
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 1: present Olivia for your consideration. Before we even start on

501
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: this spirit, I have to admit I have a hard

502
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 1: time understanding her comments things like SNM and bondage. She

503
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: has indicated that she derives pleasure with this type of

504
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: sexual nature. Olivia, okay, this is Lewde. Sorry I didn't

505
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: warn you about this. This is okay with your story. Yes, yes,

506
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: Olivia likes both ways and sexual partners that like to

507
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: explore their sexuality. I know I'm getting too old when

508
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: I have to look up with the spirit is trying

509
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: to impart to me. Olivia has a habit of coming

510
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: into your thoughts during the day. I have to admit

511
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: it can be very distracting. She only wants to pleasure

512
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: you mind and body. The dreams are explicit and very naughty.

513
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: She derives her pleasure from your pleasure. Olivia's background is

514
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 1: very simple. Okay, here's sad part. She died of a disease.

515
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 2: Okay, whatever, and now she's horny as hell.

516
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: She really doesn't like to talk about herself, only what

517
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: she wants to do to you. I believe that she

518
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: was very sexually active during her earth life and wants

519
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: to continue in her spirit life as well. Don't be

520
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: surprised if you feel yourself become sexually aroused for no reason.

521
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: Just know she is getting you ready for herself.

522
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: Okay. I think we can assume the disease that she

523
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: died from is probably a venereal disease, probably like a

524
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 2: syphilis or.

525
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,959
Speaker 1: A yeah back in the day, maybe yeah.

526
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: Because she's slutty.

527
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: As hell, she's sex positive.

528
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, this is a sex positive podcast. I forgot that.

529
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 2: So this is a new type of culture to me.

530
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: Oh, welcome to my culture.

531
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: And something and something that I'm learning is that is

532
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,239
Speaker 2: haunted dolls like is it like sexual like?

533
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: Is it like sometimes?

534
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 2: So? Not all the time?

535
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: Not all the time?

536
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: Okay.

537
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: The thought is that a person named Olivia has died.

538
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: She was freaky as hell, and somehow, some way she

539
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: found herself inside of this doll and now for two

540
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty dollars, she's on eBay.

541
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: I believe it all. I mean, because like here's the thing,

542
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: Like this is a doll, but this is a doll

543
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: of a grown woman. I mean dolls are usually of children.

544
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's not like a little girl doll or

545
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: a baby doll. That's a woman.

546
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: This is not a little girl and it's not like

547
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: a Barbie doll either, because like this is an old

548
00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: woman who's a doll. Yeah, and there's something very about that.

549
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

550
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: I think the keys also, because she's holding all those keys.

551
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: I think she has like sex like sex dungeon where

552
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: there's like lovers and cages and stuff.

553
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: Totally, she's like pleasure dom Like yeah, she says, S

554
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: and M and bondage are the some of the words

555
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: that have come through when they've tried to communicate with

556
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: her as a third generation medium. Are you picking up

557
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: any of this to be true?

558
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: Thank you? Thank you? Yeah. Yeah, you know. If I

559
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: can put on my Moudong hat, which is a real hat,

560
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: because they were really they do what they were. They

561
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: wear special hats for different ceremonies.

562
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I want you to wear one of those.

563
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have any. I should I should.

564
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: Order one, get one.

565
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: I want to say that I believe this one hundred percent.

566
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: I think that there's something very believable about this. This

567
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: the story, and the more that I look at Olivia

568
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: his face, the more she's telling me, Yeah, this is

569
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: all true. Bitch. I'm a horny ass old.

570
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: Lady, and she will make you horny.

571
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 2: Who's gonna make you horny in your dreams and in

572
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: your life? Speaking of hair, I feel like that, you know,

573
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: take a shot every time we say hair because this

574
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 2: is that's the theme of today's show. Her hair is disgusting.

575
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, she's got bangs, but then she's also

576
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: got sort of like a krusty the clown kind of

577
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: like on the sides. I mean it's really sticking out.

578
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: Maybe it's like sex hair or something like. It's like, oh,

579
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 2: she's banged so much that her hair's crazy as hell.

580
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: But she wants you to know, and she wants you

581
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: to know, but she needs a brush. She needs to

582
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 2: have sex with a brush on her hair. That's what

583
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 2: she needs to meet up with.

584
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: Right. Here's what I relate to her. I put a

585
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: lot of time into makeup and zero time into hair.

586
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: Your hair is gorgeous. You have the most You're known

587
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: for your hair being gorgeous.

588
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, but I don't know how to style it.

589
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: I usually have somebody else do it for me if

590
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: I can. But her face is flawless. Anyway, enough about her,

591
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: Can I play you some ghost voices?

592
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: Oh?

593
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's time for EVP or ev pase. Do you

594
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: know the term EVP?

595
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: I do. There was a time in my life when

596
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: I was a teenager. I was obsessed. I would listen

597
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: to them at night and scare myself.

598
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I do. It stands for electronic voice phenomena.

599
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: So it's anytime a ghost hunter believes they've captured a

600
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: ghost speaking for anyone that doesn't know. I go to

601
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 1: the Internet and I find EVPs, and I want to

602
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: play two of them. Tell me what you hear, and

603
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: then I'm going to give you some options, the correct

604
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: answer being what the ghost hunter believes the ghost to say.

605
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 1: All right. This first one was posted on an account

606
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 1: on YouTube called Haunted or Not, and it was captured

607
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: by Mark and Debbie Constantine at a place in Kentucky

608
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: that is very famous in the paranormal world. In Wilder, Kentucky.

609
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 1: Bobby Mackie's music World. Have you ever heard of it? No? Oh,

610
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: this place. I'm sure her IMDb is filled with credits

611
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: because all the ghost hunting shows go to Bobby Mackie's

612
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: Music World. It's like a country music venue that's like

613
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: crawling with demons.

614
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: Kentucky is the most haunted state in the world. It

615
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: seems like.

616
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I spent two weeks there on the television

617
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: show I'm on called Living for the Dead. Yes, and

618
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: we went to Waverley Hills Sanatorium. We also went to

619
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: the Palace Theater in Louisville and and very haunted both

620
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 1: of them. Okay, what is this ghost saying at Bobby

621
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: Mack's Music World. Now, there's definitely uh, it's not that

622
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: it's underneath that there is a soft kind of feminine voice.

623
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: Let's play it again like that. Yeah, okay, here we go.

624
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: Oh you are my batty. You revery good sexy, James Babby.

625
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 2: I mean she's fish for sure. She's definitely fish. She's

626
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: like she's a doll. She's like she's very very fam

627
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: like kind of like feeling her box.

628
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Olivia.

629
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 2: It's Olivia. Does she travel?

630
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: She says, you thought you were done with me and

631
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: the show. Well I'm back, bitch.

632
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 2: With the clickity clack. It almost sounds like, you know,

633
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 2: the vogue like voguing tracks.

634
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, or it might be also like you know

635
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: that thing where you clap to give emphasis, you know,

636
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not doing this?

637
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, Something I'm confused about with with ESP what's

638
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: it called EVPs? EVP? Soam I'm ESPs. It's something different.

639
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: What I'm confusing Why don't they ever capture like gay voices?

640
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 2: Please correct me if I'm wrong, But I never was

641
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 2: hearing any like hey, like hey girl, like I love

642
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: that tracks, girl.

643
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: I mean there was there was a moment when I

644
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: was go hunting I'm Living for the Dad on Hulu

645
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: and Disney Plus around the World where I heard a ghost.

646
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: Say yes, okay see.

647
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: Which led me to think, are you gay? And I

648
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 1: didn't say anything else after that.

649
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 2: Oh definitely a queen.

650
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, let's get back to this though. Do you

651
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 1: have any guesses? I can give you some options.

652
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Speaker 2: I think she was ordering food because I was hearing like,

653
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 2: you don't want you to go pull up to a

654
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: drive and you go, I guess I want to number

655
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: two like a fries.

656
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: Yes, literally, yeah, very relatable.

657
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hi, Hi.

658
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: Can I have an order of onion rings?

659
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 2: Is the ice cream machine working?

660
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,479
Speaker 1: Yeah? And meanwhile, I'm on the phone with my friend.

661
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: One second, girl? One second? Hi, can I have a number?

662
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: Three?

663
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: Girl? I'm still here. One second. I'm on the phone, yeah,

664
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: with pickles pickers? Okay, is it a I need to

665
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: see those boobs? Is it B I'm the guy they

666
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: speak to?

667
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 2: Is it C?

668
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: Hi, it's really nice to meet you? Or d I

669
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: know your man? His name miss Steven? Okay, Oh, it's

670
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: one of those. Now let me play it again. I

671
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: think it's see you think that it is high. It's

672
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: really nice to meet you.

673
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: I do. I heard a meet. I heard a meet

674
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:21,919
Speaker 2: loud and clear.

675
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: Well, they believe it's I'm the guy they speak to.

676
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 2: Why would she call herself a guy?

677
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: This is what they think. Wait, let's hear it again.

678
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't know.

679
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry.

680
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: Now wait a minute. Maybe is that a human speaking

681
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: and that's the feminine voice? And the clap clap is

682
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: the ghost?

683
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: No? We play it one more time, and I want

684
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 2: to hear the clackery clack. Oh. No, I think you're right.

685
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: It's the it's the voice. It's the voice. All right, Well,

686
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 2: I think that they misgendered that ghost, right.

687
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: Maybe what she was saying is I'm the girl that

688
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: they speak to. Here's another one. Okay, this one comes

689
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: from TikTok and it was posted by Psychic Underscore pilot

690
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 1: Underscore Jude, who a psychic pilot. Oh my god, imagine

691
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: if you were like on a plane and the pilot

692
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: was like, over the mic, I have a feeling we're

693
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: gonna land this plane in about fifteen minutes.

694
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

695
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: What. I don't know where this is from. What is

696
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: this ghost saying?

697
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Wait? Is he eating is like

698
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 2: the ghost eating a chuck roast dinner? Is he eating

699
00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 2: a bunch of whoppers like the candy? I'm so sorry.

700
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: That was an assault to my ears. I'm sorry, listeners, Okay,

701
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: I think it's done with a spirit box, which is

702
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: why you hear underneath, which is it's scanning radio frequencies

703
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: and it's picking up something. I don't know if this

704
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: voice is coming through a device like that or if

705
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: it's happening simultaneously. But let's listen to good.

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00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is that voice of the others.

707
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, it almost sounds like there's a.

708
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: Can. It sounds like when you say are you happy

709
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: to be on Paris?

710
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: You know the two different voices. You know what? It

711
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 1: just reminded me of, Wake me up, Wake me up.

712
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: Maybe this is effinescence coming through the rate you. It's

713
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: just an idea. Okay? Is it a what the fuck?

714
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: Girl?

715
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 1: No? Is it B? I'm trying to find a way home?

716
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 1: Is it? C? What a funny way to go? Or

717
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: D Let the bodies hit the flow? All right, it's

718
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: one of those.

719
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: I think B.

720
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: Psychic pilot Jude thinks that it is. I'm trying to

721
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 1: find a way home. Let me play it again now

722
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: that we know that. Oh, it's like I'm trying to

723
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 1: find a way.

724
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: Oh I heard it. I heard it.

725
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: They say home with the second kind of voice.

726
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: I'm trying to.

727
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: Find a way.

728
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: That's fascinating.

729
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: All right, let's wrap this up. Okay, let me just

730
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: real quick so we can cover much ground here as

731
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: we can. Because you're busy, I don't know when you'll

732
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: be back. I'm just going to ask you about some

733
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: paranormal phenomenal. I'm wondering your thoughts on it. If maybe

734
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: it'll inspire a story that you have. We'll see, we'll

735
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: see what happens. What do you think of curses? Do

736
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: you believe in that as a concept.

737
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 2: I believe in intergenerational trauma okay, which is almost like

738
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: a curse, right that you know, the ones of us

739
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 2: that finally go to therapy have to break hmmm, So

740
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 2: I believe in generational curses. Yeah.

741
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: Do you think that someone can put a curse on someone?

742
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: I think someone can have such a negative energy towards

743
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 2: another person that they send that negative energy to that person.

744
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: Mmmmm yeah, I could see that. Have you done that

745
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: to me?

746
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: Well, I'll say this, I think you've done a really

747
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 2: good job overcoming a lot of those curses. I try

748
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,479
Speaker 2: to send you because you're thriving and thank you. Good

749
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 2: for you because you're thriving, and nothing, nothing I sent

750
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 2: was able to stick.

751
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah. What about Wiji boards?

752
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: Well, I've done a Wigi border too, and it always

753
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: feels so real. It's like who's moving that? Like?

754
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: Right?

755
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I always feel like when every

756
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: time we wigi, there's always one bossy person who's kind

757
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 2: of maybe pushing a little bit more.

758
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Always yeah, But you know what, I you know,

759
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: I always have long nails, and I would love to

760
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: do it with like another doll with long nails, so

761
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: we can barely even touch the damn thing. That would help. Mmm.

762
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: What about Bigfoot?

763
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 2: Uh?

764
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: Always a controversial one.

765
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: I've dated them, you did, I did, so he's real.

766
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: I've never talked about.

767
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: This, okay, exclusive, Yeah.

768
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: We dated it for well, it dates a strong word.

769
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: We hooked up for a little bit.

770
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: How did you find him?

771
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: Well, it's really how he finds you. I mean I

772
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: was camping by yourself. Yeah, sometimes you feel a little lonely,

773
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 2: go camping just to go to touch with nature. And

774
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: mm hmm suddenly behind me, you know, I hear a

775
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: you Okay. At first I want to be like, oh

776
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 2: my fucking you know, I want to be like.

777
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: It could have been Jesus.

778
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: No it wasn't Jesus. It was big But you know,

779
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: no celebrity wants to hear that and like, oh my god,

780
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: you're Jennifer Aniston.

781
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 1: Like, I know, I hate when people do that to me.

782
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,200
Speaker 2: I know that happens to you a lot. That happens

783
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: to a lot. So I played it cool and I said, yeah,

784
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 2: I'm okay, but you know, and then he sat down.

785
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: We kind of talked. We have a lot in common,

786
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 2: same values and stuff. So you do we hooked up? Yeah,

787
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:42,760
Speaker 2: we hooked up. Yeah.

788
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: Is he pretty like progressive and all that.

789
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 2: No, he's extremely far right. But he has a huge dick.

790
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: It was okay, yeah, well big feet. You know what

791
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: that means, big feet.

792
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 2: And you know these you know, these far right guys,

793
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: they love the girls.

794
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: Oh, of course they do.

795
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,959
Speaker 2: He was living, he was waiting for a lonely doll

796
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: to be out in the woods.

797
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: God, that is such a gift to him. Good for you.

798
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So you know, ultimately we kinda you know,

799
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: we didn't agree on some of the Supreme Supreme Court stuff.

800
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 1: So ah, but you had a lot in common.

801
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

802
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: You both went out in the woods that day and

803
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: you both pitched a tent.

804
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:26,959
Speaker 2: Yeah.

805
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: Well, Nori Reid, thank you so much for joining me.

806
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 2: What a way to end, What a beautiful way to end.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, can you tell people where to find you and

808
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Speaker 1: and all the stuff you got going on? This is

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Speaker 1: going to be out in the beginning of the year.

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Speaker 2: Well, happy New Year to everyone. Find me on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: It's you know, my name, Nori Reid. And then on Twitter,

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Speaker 2: I am real Nori Reid and yeah, I'm performing all

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816
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Speaker 2: So funny. Well, thanks for doing this, Nori, thank you,

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Speaker 2: thank you, Roz.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Nori read Hey, make sure

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Speaker 1: you check out my personal instagram at Roz Hernandez. I've

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Speaker 1: got my merch there and different tour dates and all

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. I love you all, both living

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Speaker 1: and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me,

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Speaker 1: don't haunt me. Hey back, this has been an exactly

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Speaker 1: write production. Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I read stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you,

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Speaker 1: So email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: My senior producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer

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Speaker 1: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and

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Speaker 1: sound designed by the eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker

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Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the

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Speaker 1: hair raising Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by

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Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac. Photography by the Terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced

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