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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, presented by Draft Kings. The crown

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Speaker 1: is yours. We are an Action Network podcast. I'm Brandon Kravitz,

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Speaker 1: your host, back at it with half the crew. The

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Speaker 1: first lady of the pod, Kendra Middleton, is with me

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Speaker 1: before she hops on a jet and heads elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that in a second.

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Speaker 1: The Prime Minister of Degenerate Nation, Stuckey is buried in

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Speaker 1: ken palm ratings right now. We'll chat with him on

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Speaker 1: Thursday's pod. We're talking NFL Combine today with our special guest,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Roberts, NFL draft analyst from A to Z Sports. Kendra,

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Speaker 1: you are headed out of the country here soon. What's

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Speaker 1: the occasion? What takes you away from us?

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Speaker 3: I am so excited.

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Speaker 4: I have been telling you guys that this is one

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Speaker 4: of my last brain power tasks before I can paint

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Speaker 4: my nails, lather myself in self tan, and get ready.

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Speaker 3: To get on a plane. I'm actually going to Portugal.

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Speaker 4: It is my birthday on Sunday, so I'm going out

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Speaker 4: of the country, going to be drinking some wine, probably

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Speaker 4: spending too much money, and eating a lot of good food.

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Speaker 1: Is there a reason why Portugal was chosen. I know

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Speaker 1: that you love to jet set around the world. You're

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Speaker 1: very well traveled. Is this a place that you've been

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Speaker 1: before or is this a new experience.

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Speaker 3: I have not been to Portugal.

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Speaker 4: I am in my fourth third fourth year of doing

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Speaker 4: five brand new countries to me every single year for

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Speaker 4: ten years.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to do fifty countries in ten years.

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Speaker 4: So I haven't done Portugal, and I have a huge

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Speaker 4: hack for you. I have a couple of hacks for

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Speaker 4: you guys travel wise. One to make the most out

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Speaker 4: of your PTO. If you live on the East Coast,

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Speaker 4: leave on a Wednesday night. Most like red eye flights

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Speaker 4: over to Europe leave around eight nine pm. You land

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Speaker 4: at eight or nine in the morning on Thursday. You

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Speaker 4: only have to take off Thursday Friday. And if you

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Speaker 4: make it a long weekend on a Monday, you don't

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Speaker 4: even have to take off Monday. You get five days

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Speaker 4: for the cost of two or three of PTO and

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Speaker 4: it's a direct flight for me from here.

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Speaker 3: So that's what I'm doing.

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Speaker 4: And go somewhere with the Michelin Guide because you can

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Speaker 4: pre book and you don't have to spend a ton

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Speaker 4: of money to eat good foods. So Portugal has direct

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Speaker 4: flight six hours, easy enough to hop over there for

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Speaker 4: a couple of days. Michelin Guide, lots of wine and

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Speaker 4: weather that is not twenty five degrees.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a hack.

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Speaker 1: We're always looking for good ideas and great value on

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Speaker 1: this podcast, and that definitely delivers on all.

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Speaker 3: Of the round trip direct that's great.

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Speaker 1: I have not left the country in a while. I

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Speaker 1: don't think i've left the country. In fact, I know

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Speaker 1: that I have not left the country since my wife

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Speaker 1: and I went on our honeymoon in Jamaica. And this

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Speaker 1: is one of the things I know that you're somewhat

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Speaker 1: anti having children. You're not anti children, but anti having

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Speaker 3: I want to I don't want to give birth, But.

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Speaker 1: Don't you want to adopt like a teenager or someone

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to be like fifty and adopt a

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Speaker 1: So this this will put because because you love to

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Speaker 1: travel so much, this will push you away from that.

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Speaker 2: I used to love to travel as well.

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Speaker 1: It it is so difficult, somewhere between difficult and impossible

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Speaker 3: Just get Globe lunch free. It solves all your issues.

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Speaker 1: Plus with everything going on, I'm afraid I won't be

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Speaker 3: Leave me in Portugal, bitch, leave me there.

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Speaker 1: See that's uh, I can't. I can't risk that. But

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Speaker 1: call me xenophobic or whatever. I'm not leaving the country anytime,

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Speaker 1: So I'm not leaving all right, Kenja?

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Speaker 2: What's on your mind today?

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Speaker 5: Could you be.

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Speaker 3: Okay? So no stucky?

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Speaker 4: So we're gonna go rapid fire. I have three questions.

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Speaker 4: Recently I wound up on the side of internet where

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Speaker 4: boyfriends are letting their girlfriends tase them just to know

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Speaker 3: I have accidentally tased myself before.

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Speaker 4: I actually have a video of it, if anyone has

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Speaker 4: any interest in seeing it.

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Speaker 3: But would you let your wife tase you for the

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Speaker 3: one time just to know?

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Speaker 1: I think it would have to be a special occasion,

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Speaker 1: like our anniversaries coming up?

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Speaker 4: Gets our anniversary, you can do that one time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, anniversary is coming up on the eleventh. And if

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Speaker 1: this is what you wanted, I would I would succumb

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Speaker 3: But if I show you it's not that bad.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm not that curious to know what it

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Speaker 1: feels like. I've seen it on cops. It looks pretty

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Speaker 1: painful when crackheads are getting tasers, though, So what what's

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Speaker 2: What are we looking at here?

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Speaker 3: I guess stun gun tase?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I know that, I know that

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Speaker 3: I have a taser. I'll bring it when we all

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Speaker 3: meet up.

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Speaker 2: All right, I.

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Speaker 1: Would say my answer is maybe sixty sixty five percent

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Speaker 1: to the No. I wouldn't do that unless she asked

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Speaker 2: Question now, Christmas morning, let me tase you.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's hey, if that would be a good gift

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Speaker 4: Question two? Fuck Mary kill rain? Wind Snow all right,

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Speaker 4: I'm killing wind.

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Speaker 1: Wind is so obnoxious and it makes the cold exponentially worse.

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Speaker 1: All of my worst experiences sitting at sporting events and

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Speaker 1: things like that are due to the wind, not necessarily

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Speaker 2: It's smacks in the face. There's nothing you can do

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Speaker 1: They get for a rain. If you're that bothered, get

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Speaker 1: I think I would fuck the snow because that's more

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Speaker 2: I've been in Florida for a long time. I was

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Speaker 1: I know snow. I've seen snow. It's great to visit snow.

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Speaker 1: I would not want as an adult. I've never had

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Speaker 1: then I guess i'd marry the rain because there's nothing better.

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Speaker 4: Then.

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Speaker 1: You've got nothing to do, You're off all day. You

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Speaker 3: I'm a walk step with you here.

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Speaker 1: Oh the vibes are immaculate. Yeah, I can definitely marry that.

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Speaker 4: We have some arguments in our chat section on production,

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Speaker 4: But question number three do you wish your friends still

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Speaker 1: This would have been a very difficult question years ago.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about how I would even go about

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Speaker 1: because there was limited space. Now, I mean, I would

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Speaker 2: At this point, maybe you know.

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Speaker 1: It would be awesome though, is if we had some

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Speaker 2: We started sliding.

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Speaker 1: In to so many other people's top eights that we

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Speaker 1: far as where my face would appear, might even be

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Speaker 4: It's more so like where you stand with other people,

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Speaker 4: like I think it would be easy for me to

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Speaker 1: We're probably better off having gotten rid of that, but

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Speaker 2: But eventually, you know they'd see it, they would check.

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Speaker 1: it's time to get it right. So maybe there's something

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Speaker 1: move on to the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 3: No, just my dog barking at somebody in the hallway.

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Speaker 1: All right, take it easy, Jackson, our main dish today.

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Speaker 1: The Texans have been busy. They released safety Jimmy Ward.

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Speaker 1: a deal with the Lions, acquiring David Montgomery. They sent

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Speaker 1: out Juice Scruggs, a fourth round pick and a seventh

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Speaker 4: I think so, mostly just because I see a trade

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Speaker 4: like this as kind of a finishing piece on an offense,

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Speaker 4: and I don't I think that he's going to be

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Speaker 4: a finishing piece on this offense. I don't think that

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Speaker 4: this solves any of their issues. I think it makes

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Speaker 1: I'm also looking at this from the Lions side. As

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Speaker 1: exciting as this is for Jamior Gibbs dynasty managers, for

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Speaker 1: which I am one of them, I feel like they're

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Speaker 1: going to do something with that Montgomery role. It was

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Speaker 1: Jamal Williams before that. Then they upgrade to Montgomery, and

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Speaker 1: lately Montgomery hasn't really felt like anything special. Six million

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Speaker 1: the Houston side too. Okay, so they have Woody Marx

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Speaker 1: and David Montgomery. Does that really fix their offense? They're

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Speaker 1: Putting duck tape on the ship that's starting to take

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Speaker 3: Important for them right now? Not really anywhere.

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Speaker 1: I do appreciate the aggressiveness of Nick Cassario. You very

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Speaker 1: I mean that's a separate conversation for a different day

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Speaker 1: This is typically when a quarterback he's entering the final

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Speaker 4: Are you scared of pissing him off? Because honestly I

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Speaker 1: It's funny how the NFL ebbs and flows like that,

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Speaker 1: And now all of a sudden, we're seeing Tyler Shucks

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Speaker 3: Well Sam Baker Mayfield conversation too. You could look at

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Speaker 4: I think the other thing that's happening is we're seeing

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Speaker 4: people are probably gonna give Kyler a chance for that

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Speaker 1: It's such a copycat league. And for years we saw

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Speaker 2: And C J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud was I mean that dude was awful in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all he had to do was be a Drake

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Speaker 1: So I did not know that there were side bets

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. Okay, they're in a bad quarterback situation minus

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Speaker 1: eight fifty. Wow, that was pricey too. You had the

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Speaker 1: And who ran with Sonic? My kid knuckles, Yes, my

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Speaker 2: I should know this. But they're going to bring in

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Speaker 1: So if you have Gibbs in fantasy, I mean, obviously

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Speaker 2: Those guys were top picks in.

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Speaker 4: I think their agents should start holding hands and just

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Speaker 1: Completely agree, and I think Jeremiah Love should call them

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Speaker 4: It's going to be the Jackson dar of last year

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Speaker 1: Well, we're about to dive into that conversation even further

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Speaker 1: in a moment NFL Combine Recap with Ryan Roberts. But

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Speaker 2: The NFL Combine is in the books.

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Speaker 1: We've got risers, we've got followers, and we bring on

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Speaker 2: Ryan, thanks for hanging out with us. How you doing today.

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Speaker 5: I'm good. I'm good.

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Speaker 6: Thank you guys having having me. It's you know, I'm

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Speaker 6: Thank you guys so much.

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Speaker 2: How many did you eat at Saint Elbow's?

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Speaker 5: Actually none?

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Speaker 1: Can you before you get to the football side of it,

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Speaker 2: Is it all it's cracked up to be? It? Is?

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Speaker 6: So for me, like for the media side of things,

447
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Speaker 6: I think that this is actually like the base of

448
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Speaker 6: the cupcake, like this is the foundation is kind of

449
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Speaker 6: how I would quantify it, because when you're at the

450
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Speaker 6: Senior Bowl, or you're at East West Shrine, or you

451
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 6: go on the Pro day circuit, like all those types

452
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Speaker 6: of things, you get the sprinkles of information, but from

453
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 6: like a media side of just like information gathering. There

454
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,399
Speaker 6: is no place like Indianapolis for just kind of getting

455
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 6: like legit intel. I mean, it's lying seasons, so there's

456
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 6: always some information that you just kind of have to

457
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 6: disregard and cone through, but you really do find a

458
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 6: lot of good stuff because this is the only draft

459
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,280
Speaker 6: event pre draft event where you have every media member

460
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 6: who matters to every coaching you know, coaching personnel, decision makers, agents, players,

461
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 6: three hundred and eighteen players all under the same root.

462
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Speaker 6: So if you're good at it, you know, like you

463
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 6: just know how to hear things right and how to

464
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Speaker 6: cipher through things. So I think foundationally speaking in it

465
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Speaker 6: for us on this side, I do think that it

466
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Speaker 6: is a very important part for the actual NFL evaluator side,

467
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Speaker 6: though I think that it probably is sprinkles to your point, right,

468
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Speaker 6: Like I think that you have already done the bulk

469
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 6: of the work it's the film, It's the Eye and

470
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Speaker 6: the sky like that stuff carries the most most part

471
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Speaker 6: of this evaluation process. After that, it's just does he

472
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Speaker 6: check out athletically for what I saw in film? It's

473
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Speaker 6: a verification process. Does he interview well? And do the

474
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Speaker 6: medicals check out? So it's still an important part of

475
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 6: the process, but the overall most important part is what

476
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Speaker 6: did you do during the twenty nineteen twenty twenty five

477
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 6: excuse me college football season?

478
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Speaker 4: So you were boots on the ground. I needed to

479
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 4: know if the combine is back? There were more big

480
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,359
Speaker 4: name players from college football this year than we've seen

481
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 4: the last couple of years participating will this day?

482
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Speaker 3: Was it random?

483
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 4: Does the clickbait aspect help some of these guys in

484
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 4: the long run show up, participate, maybe get a little

485
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Speaker 4: bit of that viral fame before the question mark of

486
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Speaker 4: their career takes over. What was kind of the vibe of,

487
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 4: you know, like the Jeremiah Love was of the world

488
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 4: being there in participating and seeing more of these big

489
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Speaker 4: name guys on every side of the ball. Maybe not

490
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Speaker 4: so much the quarterbacks, but did it feel like the energy.

491
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Speaker 3: Was back at the combine this year?

492
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Speaker 2: Yeah?

493
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Speaker 6: I think there was a lot of energy from the

494
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Speaker 6: player's side. The media was a little bit it was

495
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Speaker 6: a little bit. It was a little bit inconsistent from

496
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Speaker 6: just like the media availability perspective, because a lot of

497
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Speaker 6: the media was dealing with like the blizzards in the Northeast, right,

498
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Speaker 6: so like travel was was hard. I mean myself, like

499
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 6: I had to deal with it as well, So like

500
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 6: the media presence wasn't as strong as it has been

501
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 6: in a couple combines that I've been to.

502
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Speaker 5: But from the player side of things.

503
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, I mean, I think that they set up precedence, right.

504
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 6: I think it was am and Ross Saint Brown on

505
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 6: Caleb Downs and Josh Downs podcast that basically said, like,

506
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 6: if you're gonna run fast, go run fast. Right, So

507
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 6: that's what we saw this past week of if you're

508
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 6: confident in your athleticism, show it off. And I think

509
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Speaker 6: that Jeremiah Love did that to your point of running

510
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:31,200
Speaker 6: three four, three six rvel rees and Sunny Styles, who

511
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 6: were both probably gonna be top five to top six

512
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Speaker 6: draft picks, decided I'm going to run four four to

513
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Speaker 6: six in the forty and I'm going to do the

514
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Speaker 6: position drills and Sunny Styles did all of the testings,

515
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Speaker 6: so I think they're just kind of seeing those guys tests.

516
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 6: Even Cornell Tait, like most people didn't think Ohio State's

517
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 6: receiver was going to test this week, and I know

518
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 6: there's been a lot of controversy over four on and

519
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 6: four five three and being the first wide receiver off

520
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 6: the board, but he showed up and he decided to

521
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Speaker 6: test last minute, which I just kind of think adds

522
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Speaker 6: to that precedent a little bit. So I think if

523
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Speaker 6: they see more and more players of that status and

524
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Speaker 6: that magnitude can continue to test, I do think that's

525
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 6: going to set a good standard for the people come

526
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Speaker 6: and move forward, because at the end of the day,

527
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 6: there's always gonna be people that opt out. But the

528
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Speaker 6: people that opt out more than more than most, in

529
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 6: my opinion, would be guys that either don't have anything

530
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 6: to gain, but more than anything, it's guys that don't

531
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Speaker 6: think they're gonna test well. Like I wasn't shocked to

532
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 6: see Ruben Bain from Miami not tests because I just

533
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 6: don't think he's going to be a good tester. Sonny Styles,

534
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 6: on the other hand, didn't really have a ton to gain, arguably,

535
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 6: but he decided I'm gonna put an exclamation point next

536
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 6: to my name in this draft, and he was able

537
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Speaker 6: to solidify things.

538
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, So that kind of leads into my next question.

539
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 4: Over the last couple of years, we've seen guys run faster,

540
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 4: jump high er, get stronger, overall look more impressive. What

541
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 4: is more responsible for some of these numbers, specifically the

542
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 4: quick jump in the numbers? Is it the sports science,

543
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 4: is it the nutrition and all of that, or is

544
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Speaker 4: it more.

545
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 3: Focused being on the drills that they train for?

546
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Speaker 4: Right, Like a lot of these guys are going to

547
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 4: participate in things that are going to make them look good,

548
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 4: specifically something like the forty yard dash and a focus

549
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Speaker 4: on that in particular preparing for it.

550
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Speaker 3: Which one do you think is more likely?

551
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Speaker 6: I think, generally speaking, it's that training is just getting

552
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 6: better more than anything, because, like there goes, there's a

553
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 6: lot that goes into that process. It's not just learning

554
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Speaker 6: mechanically how to run the best version of a forty

555
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 6: r dash or the broad jump or you know, your

556
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 6: three cone all that type of stuff. It is also

557
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 6: that they have the nutrition side of that as well.

558
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,199
Speaker 6: They're monitoring the intake and lifting and doing all these jumps,

559
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 6: and so I think that that is mostly a part

560
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 6: of the process. But I do think there's something to

561
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 6: be said about the fact that some guys are very

562
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Speaker 6: strategic with what they do tests in Indianapolis, like for

563
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 6: a lot most players now, a lot of them focus on,

564
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 6: for instance, like the explosive stuff at the at the combine,

565
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 6: and then they'll do the short area stuff at the prodain.

566
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Speaker 6: So they'll do the forty yr dash, they'll do the

567
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 6: broad jump, they'll do the vertical all in Indie because

568
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 6: those things are all interrelated. It's about lower body explosiveness

569
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Speaker 6: and kind of more linear type of explosiveness. And then

570
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,239
Speaker 6: they'll train for all NonStop for weeks for the pro

571
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Speaker 6: day of doing their best five ten to five into

572
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Speaker 6: three cones. So I think that you're definitely compartmentalizing how

573
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 6: you attack the process. But I think overall it's just

574
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 6: partly evolution. Guys are getting bigger, faster, stronger, just generally speaking.

575
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 6: But I think more than anything, it's the training aspect

576
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 6: of it. I mean, if you go down to like

577
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 6: bomb Rito or one of the exoss across the country,

578
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 6: like these these these people know what they're doing obviously

579
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 6: and they're getting a lot of results.

580
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Speaker 1: Ryan, we are all curious to know after the NFL

581
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: combine takes place, who's rising up the board, who's falling

582
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Speaker 1: based on their measurements, the athleticism, the scores and all

583
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: of that. I was blown away by Tailing Green of Arkansas,

584
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: curious to see what happens with that. He's a physical specimen.

585
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: Three risers, three fallers. Who are guys that come to

586
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 1: mind for you.

587
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna steal Tailing Green for you for a second,

588
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 6: because I do think that quarterback three is wide open.

589
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 6: After Fernanda Mendoz and Ty Simpson, there's been a lot

590
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 6: of you know, a lot of love for Garrett us Meyer,

591
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 6: and I do think that the NFL still does like

592
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 6: Garrett Smier from LSU. But I do think that there's

593
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 6: a there's definitely an option that maybe somewhere on Day

594
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 6: two now, a team goes Tailing Green. Might not be

595
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 6: ready to start a quarterback in the NFL, but with

596
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 6: how athletic he is, that kind of gives you a

597
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 6: nice floor to work with in terms of, like if

598
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,959
Speaker 6: he flames out as a quarterback, I think I think

599
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 6: an NFL offense coordinator can figure out what to do

600
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 6: with a six foot six, two hundred and thirty pound guy

601
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 6: that runs four thirty six, right, Like you can figure

602
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 6: something out for that type a little bit.

603
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: Like like Jalen Milroe in that way.

604
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: Is it kind of great?

605
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Speaker 5: Yeh yeah, absolutely, Yeah.

606
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 6: I think it's a Turell prior situation too, And I

607
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 6: know there is a little bit of a different situation

608
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 6: coming out of Ohio State, but I mean he ends

609
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 6: up being a wide receiver in the NFL for several

610
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 6: years as well, Like you're not drafted him in with

611
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 6: the intention that you're gonna move the wide receiver necessarily.

612
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 6: But I do think that athleticism, it creates a floor

613
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 6: of like that guy's an NFL athlete for sure. So yeah, Milroy,

614
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 6: I think is an interesting situation as well and kind

615
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 6: of similar issue. So I think tailing Green is definitely

616
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 6: one of them.

617
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 5: Without question.

618
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 6: I will say trading Stokes out of Arizona, the defensive

619
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 6: back is one of my favorite players in his class.

620
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 6: He was getting top one one hundred feedback before this,

621
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 6: before the event, but then he goes out and at

622
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 6: six foot one and right around one hundred and ninety

623
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Speaker 6: five pounds, he runs four to three to three and

624
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 6: has a forty plus inch avert.

625
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 5: So he's film plus.

626
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 6: I think he tested maybe a little better than some

627
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 6: NFL team's thoughts, So I think he's probably a top

628
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 6: sixty four kid at this point. Like I don't see

629
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 6: him getting out of the second round when he was

630
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 6: probably more of a seventy five to one hundred type

631
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 6: of player going into the event. So he's definitely rising

632
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 6: without questions. And I think that there's gonna be some

633
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 6: other guys, like I'm just trying to think, like Blake Miller,

634
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 6: I think got a Clemson's guy that is slowly kind

635
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 6: of ascending to a back half of first round type

636
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 6: of offensive tackle. Was kind of viewed as like probably

637
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 6: a mid second rounder before the process started, but at

638
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 6: six foot seven and three hundred and fifteen pounds with

639
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 6: thirty four plus inch arms, able to test at a

640
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 6: high level when you look at like his relative athletics score.

641
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 6: So those are a few guys I think really kind

642
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 6: of rose fallers. Generally in this event, it's not usually

643
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 6: as much athletic testing. It's usually the stuff you get

644
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 6: after the fact of like medicals and character stuff.

645
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 5: And I do think think that.

646
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 6: I think that there's a heavier debate coming out at

647
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 6: wide receiver than there was coming in. I think that

648
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 6: Carnell Tates while I'm not worried about him running four

649
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 6: or five three, just me speaking like I'm not actually

650
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 6: not worried about that. I think the one piece of

651
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 6: news that I got that actually I put out at

652
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 6: eighty to Z was that Jordan Tyson's medicals came back

653
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 6: good the Arizona state wide receiver this past week, which

654
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 6: is huge for him, Like that was one of the

655
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 6: big deterrens for him in terms of him being wide

656
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 6: receiver one or being wide receiver three. So I do

657
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 6: think there's actually gonna be an interesting conversation down the

658
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 6: stretch of who is wide receiver one in this class

659
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 6: and if it ends up being Tyson. I think we're

660
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 6: seeing Carnell Tait mostly in like top eights of MOX.

661
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 6: I wouldn't be shocked if he's more in like the

662
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 6: late teens, depending on just kind of how that wide

663
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 6: receiver pecking order kind of falls. So I think he's

664
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 6: a guy that could fall slightly in this process. I

665
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 6: do think also that Garrett Nussmeyer is a guy that

666
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 6: It kind of goes with what I talked about with

667
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 6: Taylor Green earlier. If Taylor Green ends up being the

668
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 6: quarterback three off the board, then Garrett Usmeyer is probably

669
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 6: gonna fall a little bit. He's kind of generally thought

670
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 6: of as like a top seventy. But if Taylor Green

671
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 6: becomes a third quarterback off the board, does the team

672
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 6: kind of just kind of fill the need and just

673
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 6: kind of keep it moving. I do think that he

674
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 6: is a player that could trend downward a good bit

675
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 6: in terms of, you know, his evaluation to the NFL

676
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 6: side of things.

677
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 5: And then I'm trying to think of a I.

678
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 6: Would say again, I don't know if I would call

679
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 6: him a faller, but Jermald McCoy out of Tennessee had

680
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 6: a chance to kind of stop some some question marks

681
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 6: with his his injury because he had the torn acl

682
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 6: in the spring. He didn't play in the entire year

683
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 6: for Tennessee. The talented cornerback and apparently he's healthy, but

684
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 6: he should have been Indianapolis and didn't do anything because

685
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 6: of the because of you know, he just wasn't physically

686
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 6: ready quote unquote, So he just had a chance to

687
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 6: kind of quiet some question Marks, So a guy that

688
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 6: I thought was gonna be a top ten pick going

689
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 6: into this process. If he was available later in like

690
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 6: late first round, I would not be shocked at this point.

691
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 6: So there's a couple of guys that just kind of

692
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 6: slid a little bit.

693
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 5: I think.

694
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 4: So on the topic of guys rising and kind of falling,

695
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 4: Jeremiah Love looks really good. I've heard people like Brandon

696
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 4: say they think that he's going to be a top

697
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 4: five pick. I've heard people say that if he doesn't

698
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 4: go to the Chiefs, he's going to fall pretty far

699
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 4: back into the teens after being there this week. Where

700
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 4: do you think it is a realistic spot or a

701
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 4: realistic team for him to wind up with, So.

702
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 6: Going into the events or probably like a couple weeks,

703
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 6: you know, prior to leading up to it, I thought

704
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 6: that Jeremiah Love was the most likely landing spot was

705
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 6: probably in that eight to nine spots with the New

706
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 6: Orleans Saints and then the Kansas City Chiefs leaving the event,

707
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 6: I think that's the floor now, like I don't think

708
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 6: that's the most likely. I think that there is legitimate

709
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,479
Speaker 6: smoke around the Tennessee Titans at four and it's going

710
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 6: to be a huge debate over positional need versus luxury

711
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 6: and all that type of stuff. But I do think

712
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 6: there's a the straddling of the line of a conversation

713
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 6: of do we want to take the premium position even

714
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 6: if we have him graded a lot lower, or do

715
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 6: we want to take a guy that's maybe going to

716
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 6: be an all pro running back? So I think four.

717
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 6: I also think number three to Cardinals Arizona Cardinals is

718
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 6: like a sneaky spot for Jeremiah Love. So I think

719
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 6: his spot now is between somewhere between three and nine.

720
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 6: I think nine is the floor though, and before the event,

721
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 6: I kind of thought that that was kind of the

722
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 6: sweet spot for him.

723
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: Do you think I think Callie easy for a running back.

724
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,239
Speaker 1: Though, b Jeon Robinson, Jamiir Gibbs, We're now starting to

725
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: see the pendulum swing. Gone are the days, Ryan of

726
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette busting with the Jacksonville Jaguars.

727
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 4: I'm trying to talk myself out of them signing Etn.

728
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 5: Dude, the Titans, the Jags.

729
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 4: I'm a Jaguars fan, and I don't want them to

730
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 4: pay him what I think he wants.

731
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 5: That's fair.

732
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,239
Speaker 2: Travis Etn is like a middle of the road running back.

733
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: Jeremiah Love looks like and I want to ask athletically,

734
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: in terms of testing and things like that, who does

735
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,239
Speaker 1: he compare to when we talk about him from an

736
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: athletic perspective, because I think he's better than etn.

737
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 6: So people can comparing him to Jumior Gibbs, but they're

738
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 6: completely different size profiles. Like Gibbs was like five nine

739
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 6: one hundred and ninety nine pounds. Jeremy Love's six foot

740
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 6: two fourteen and he's he's got or to twelve I

741
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 6: think is what he waighed and he played it like

742
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 6: two fourteen to fifteen. He's got long arms too, so

743
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 6: he's got thirty two in charms. Not that that matters

744
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 6: for the running back position, but like just to kind

745
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 6: of illustrate that, like he's a bigger athlete, Like he's

746
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 6: not a small He's not like a smaller because like

747
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 6: two hundred pounds is like kind of that threshold of

748
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 6: success and Shamier gives is actually a slight outlier in

749
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 6: terms of like sub two hundred pound running backs that

750
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 6: have been really successful in the NFL level. Love fits

751
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 6: more of like the traditional back that you look at

752
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 6: For me, I always compare him to Alvin Kamara with

753
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 6: more home run speed, Like that's what he reminds me

754
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 6: of because he's explosive, gets to his top gear in

755
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,239
Speaker 6: a hurry, really good out of the backfield, and then

756
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 6: like sneaky good change of direction in open space as well.

757
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 5: So like I think he can wait four.

758
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 3: We got to talk about that though etn.

759
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 4: Allegedly the reason that he can change directions so fast

760
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 4: is because after he tore that achilles, they couldn't get

761
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 4: his foot to go completely back the right direction.

762
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 3: So when he cuts, people don't know where.

763
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 4: He's gonna go because his foot sits out.

764
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: Here like a club.

765
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: He kind of does have the kind of rubbed He

766
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: kind of runs like a duck a little bit.

767
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 3: That's that's why it's the surgery.

768
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 5: It's hilarious.

769
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: The uh yeah, the love thing is gonna be interesting,

770
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: probably the most fascinating prospects.

771
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 5: Oh if he got to twelve with the Cowboys, I'd

772
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 5: be like shocked. At this point. Here's an interesting one.

773
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 6: I keep hearing now and this is like a weird

774
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 6: like rumor that's out there and I don't actually buy

775
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 6: this one, So like I'm not gonna give it like

776
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 6: like a lot of credence.

777
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 5: But someone keeps.

778
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,879
Speaker 6: Saying, if there's anybody that someone's going to trade up for,

779
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 6: it's Jeremiah Love in this class, And I'm like, when

780
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 6: is the last time a team traded up for a

781
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 6: running back in the first rounds?

782
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 5: Like, when is the last time that's happened.

783
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 6: I haven't done the research on it yet, but like,

784
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 6: I cannot remember that happening.

785
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 5: I because like even Jimi or Gibbs, the.

786
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: Droit was it Ricky Williams.

787
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 6: Maybe Ricky Williams, I guess, and they mortgaged their entire

788
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 6: team to get Ricky Williams and it didn't actually end

789
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 6: up working out very well, right, So, like I don't know,

790
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 6: Like I I generally speaking, I'm a little bit of

791
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 6: a purist of don't take a running back in the

792
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 6: top ten, But I do think there's exceptions in draft.

793
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 6: I don't think this is a good It's this is

794
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 6: a weird draft class because you could argue the four

795
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 6: best players in this draft play non premium positions, like

796
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 6: you could you could argue it's Jeremiah Love at running back,

797
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 6: Caleb Downson safety, and then two linebackers from Ohio State, right, So,

798
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 6: like you could argue this is a non premium draft,

799
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 6: which is why I'm not like I'm not buying into

800
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,800
Speaker 6: the positional value conversation.

801
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 5: That's fair.

802
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, like, seriously, you could add him, and

803
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 6: then there's a lot of people that like, uh, the

804
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 6: guard from Penn State Vega, who is you know again,

805
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 6: he's a guard. That's not a premium position at all.

806
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 6: Like that's the point of it. And even the defensive

807
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 6: tackle room this year, where we would typically think value

808
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 6: is with these guys that can create a lot of

809
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 6: sack production and be penetrators.

810
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 5: This is more of a nose tackle class. So like,

811
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 5: this is just a weird draft in the sense of

812
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 5: I don't care as much.

813
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 6: About positional value because I think that the non positional

814
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 6: value positions are the ones that are the best in

815
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 6: this draft by far. Like this is a safety linebacker

816
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 6: Jeremiah Love class this year. That's what it is at

817
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 6: is it a good draft class? Just looking at it generally.

818
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: I know, I know what you're saying about the the

819
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: not the positional need the traditional you gotta get your

820
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: left tackle, gotta get your quarterback, gotta lock up the

821
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: top dB, those are the best drafts.

822
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 2: But drafts we're also talking.

823
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: About the guys at the top, and I think that

824
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: that is a mistake that we often get into and

825
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 1: judging draft classes is just looking at the top twenty picks.

826
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: Gms and scouts are much more interested in the total

827
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: body of the seven rounds. Do you think this is

828
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: a good draft for a general manager or a scout

829
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: going in?

830
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 6: Well, I love your note there on how scouts viewed

831
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 6: the draft. I mean the rams have consistently over the

832
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 6: last few years like devalued first round picks at times,

833
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 6: but they filled gaps with late day two to day

834
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 6: three picks, like talking about like Poka Nakua and Kyraen

835
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 6: Williams and all those things. So, like value throughout is

836
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 6: very important. When I judge a draft, it's based upon

837
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 6: two things. One, it's the top end talent at the

838
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 6: you know, right at the top of the board. And

839
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 6: then it is the depth.

840
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 5: Of the class.

841
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 6: And so to answer your question and to give slight

842
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 6: more analysis afterwards, no, I don't think this is a

843
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:06,479
Speaker 6: good draft.

844
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 5: I think this is a below average draft by all indicators.

845
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 6: It is because I do think the top of the

846
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 6: draft needs to be judged by the valuable positions. So

847
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 6: like this year, it's not a great left tackle draft.

848
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 6: It's a one quarterback draft. And the edge group I

849
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 6: think is like, it's a good edge group at the top,

850
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 6: but more I think, more often than not, like the

851
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 6: bane bai Lea tier is probably more in like the

852
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 6: eight to fifteen range in a draft than a team

853
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 6: that maybe is going to draft them at number two. Right,

854
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 6: So like I think that you have to judge it

855
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 6: at the top by that criteria. And then I'll tell you, guys,

856
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 6: like I've done way too many, like three four round

857
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 6: mock drafts at this point, when I'm getting to like

858
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 6: the late portion of like mid to late third rounds,

859
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 6: it is like pulling teeth, man, Like it really is.

860
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 6: So I don't think the depth is great, and I

861
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 6: do think that the fact that the premium positions are

862
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 6: not great this year does make it a well below

863
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 6: average draft in my opinion.

864
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: Kendrew was talking about the tight end position, and it

865
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: does seem like we've got a couple of freaks at

866
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: the top. Where do you land on Sadiq and did

867
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: he sort of steal the weekend from from Stours Vanderbilt

868
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: to a lot of people really like who do you like.

869
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 2: More and what do you think of the tight end

870
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 2: class at the top?

871
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 5: So Sid I love Sadik as a player.

872
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 6: I do think that his usage was very up and

873
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 6: down at Oregon, but I do think that the upside

874
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 6: is still tremendous because I mean, you can't teach two

875
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 6: hundred and forty one pounds that runs four three nine

876
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 6: and has a forty two and a half inch for like,

877
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 6: it's just crazy stuff. Man, It's funny, like he he

878
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 6: made me look a little prophetic to a degree after

879
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 6: he had his testing because before the season I was

880
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,760
Speaker 6: talking to a scout and he made them look prophetic

881
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 6: when they I was like, hey, what do you got

882
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 6: on Sadik? Because I'd heard that some scouts were really

883
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 6: high on I mean even before here's a backup the

884
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 6: Terrence Ferguson previously right, So like it was like, how

885
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 6: good is Sadiq? And the one scout said, this is

886
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 6: Vernon Davis again. And when you look like his numbers

887
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 6: next to Vernon Davis coming out of Maryland, it's very similar.

888
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 6: Like I think I think Vernon ran like four to

889
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 6: four flats and Sadik ran four to three nine and

890
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 6: they both for forty plus into vertical guys, so it

891
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 6: is eerily similar. So I think as long as their

892
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 6: usage is better on the NFL level and you kind

893
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 6: of develop his routree a little bit, Kenyan Sadik is

894
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 6: a physical block or two, which I think a lot

895
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 6: of people kind of lose sight of. So like he's

896
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 6: an all around dude that he can play f he

897
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 6: can play wide, like he can play in the slot

898
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 6: of times as well, so like he can play attached

899
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,320
Speaker 6: or detached. So he's tied on one in this class,

900
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,479
Speaker 6: and I think there's like a big tear drop after him.

901
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 6: To be honest with you, I still like Stours, but

902
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 6: like how I agreed players just in general, is the

903
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 6: more you can do and the more plus you're at,

904
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 6: the higher caliber player you are. For me, Sadik is

905
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 6: just a versatile weapon. For me, Stours is a pure

906
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 6: f tight end, which there's nothing.

907
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 5: Wrong with that.

908
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 6: But there's just gonna be some teams that overvalue or

909
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 6: maybe just value higher the blocking ability and they're not

910
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 6: even gonna give Stours at the time of day. They're

911
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 6: just gonna be like, you can't be you can't be

912
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 6: a guy that's gonna play in line forty five and

913
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 6: half invert plays obviously, eleven three broad plays, four or

914
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 6: five months speed plays. He's gonna have a role in

915
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 6: the NFL level, and it's probably gonna be like an

916
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 6: An Ingram type of player more than likely, which I

917
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 6: think does give him a chance to maybe get into

918
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 6: the back end of round one after the performance. But

919
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 6: I do think we we're talking about like tiers of

920
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 6: tight ends. I think that Kenyan Sadik is tight end

921
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 6: won by a pretty good, pretty good margin right now.

922
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 4: Okay, so not the sexiest draft class in general, not

923
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 4: the sexiest quarterback draft class. I could get cue and

924
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 4: said here and ask you about Fernando Mendoza compared to

925
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 4: last year's quarterbacks. I could sit here and ask you

926
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 4: about Ty Simpson falling. I could sit here and ask

927
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 4: you about Diego Pavia, but quite frankly, I don't give

928
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 4: a fuck about him.

929
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 5: What I would like to.

930
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 4: Ask you, though, I'm going to put the gun to

931
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 4: your head quite closely here. I want to talk about

932
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 4: the quarterbacks, but I want to know who asked for

933
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza to get arrested.

934
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,240
Speaker 3: Who do you think right now, just gut reaction.

935
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 5: Probably the Jets, I guess, right, like.

936
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 6: The Jets have I mean, because we were when we

937
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 6: were positioning the So the Jets went through that tailspin

938
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 6: at the end of the year where they basically, I mean,

939
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,760
Speaker 6: I'm tanking. Isn't a thing in the NFL quote unquote,

940
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 6: but like let's call it what it was. They were

941
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 6: trying to position for a higher draft pick right when

942
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 6: they were had the number two pick. Originally, you're like, Okay, Mendoza,

943
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 6: Dante More gonna fight it out. They get one of

944
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 6: those two guys, and you feel good about their standing

945
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 6: at number two.

946
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 5: As soon as he went back to school and.

947
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 6: Leonora's Sellers fell off the face of the earth and

948
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 6: ty Simpson had his downslide down the stretch of the season,

949
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 6: You're like, damn, the Jets are gonna just gonna keep

950
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 6: jetting now, right Like this.

951
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 5: Is bad, Like you still can't find your quarterback.

952
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 6: So I mean, if there's a team that is like

953
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 6: for some reason hoping and praying that the Raiders, for

954
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 6: whatever reason, just decide we don't want Bernando Mendoze at

955
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 6: number one, which I don't think is going to happen.

956
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 6: But if there was a team, it's probably the New

957
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 6: York Jets because like they even I mean, they made

958
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 6: a bunch of trades, like they did to Queen and

959
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 6: Williams trade. They did the sauce garter trade because they

960
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 6: were trying to position themselves to get the AMMO to

961
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 6: get their quarterback in case they weren't in the right spot.

962
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 6: And then you get the number two pick and it's

963
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 6: a one quarterback class. Like, the Jets are in a

964
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 6: really tough spot right now.

965
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 1: I wonder what Fernando Mendoza would have to do, what

966
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: crime he would have to commit for him to actually

967
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: fall in this draft with how little the quarterback position

968
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: is gaining steam outside of him.

969
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 6: Gas mask bong, Laramie Tunzel situations, and there's too much

970
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 6: legality with smoking weed now, I don't even think that

971
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 6: that would do it.

972
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: It would have to be something pretty egregious for him.

973
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 4: When I worked in San Francisco that came out because

974
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 4: I was interning out there when the Laramie Tunsel thing happened.

975
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 4: We tried and weed was already legal in California at

976
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 4: this point. As an intern, they sent me out trying

977
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 4: to find a gas mask at Loewe's home depot everywhere,

978
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 4: couldn't get one.

979
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: People in San Francisco probably like I don't understand the problem.

980
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: That's part of the job, interview.

981
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 6: And to overlook a lot of stuff with quarterbacks obviously

982
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,959
Speaker 6: too right, Like you're gonna overlook a lot and unfortunately,

983
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 6: you know you never say never to guys doing stupid stuff.

984
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 6: But like Ferananamen doses.

985
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 5: Like kidding me people you've ever seen, right, So like

986
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 5: good luck trying to hope that he does something stupid

987
00:42:59,120 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 5: from here till April.

988
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, zero percent chance.

989
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: That's that's how I would poet Georgia. It just like

990
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: he's just like the last guy in the world to

991
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: break the law. I don't even think you would know

992
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 1: how to if he tried. All right, two last things

993
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: for you, second best quarterback in this year's drafts class,

994
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: and I mean, is it clearly Ty Simpson? And then

995
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,760
Speaker 1: how concerned are you with the roupe in bayin arm length?

996
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 5: Sure?

997
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 6: I yeah, it's Ty Simpson by default, I mean pretty much,

998
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 6: because like Tye had a struggling like first game of

999
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 6: the season against Florida State and then he had a

1000
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 6: poor last section of the season just kind of down

1001
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 6: the stretch because he was banged up and injured.

1002
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 5: But I do think that.

1003
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 6: The middle, like eighth of the season was was good.

1004
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 6: You know it was it was It was first round

1005
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 6: level tape. And I think the fact that he showed

1006
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 6: up to Indianapolis and he was over two hundred and

1007
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 6: ten pounds was a good step because he needs to

1008
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 6: show that he could stay healthy, right, so like I

1009
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 6: wanted him to get a little bit of body armor

1010
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 6: on him and show that maybe you're a little bit

1011
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 6: more durable moving forward. So I think that middle section

1012
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 6: of the season, teams are still going to like a

1013
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,399
Speaker 6: lot of what Ty Simpson is. I don't know if

1014
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 6: that is a guy that eventually pushes to be a

1015
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 6: top ten pick mid first round, or is it back

1016
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 6: into the first round guy or maybe even early second

1017
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 6: I'm not one hundred percent sure. I tend to think

1018
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 6: that there is a quarterback tax, so I think a

1019
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 6: team will ultimately push it, pull the trigger on him

1020
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 6: inside of the top thirty two. But I do think

1021
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,720
Speaker 6: he's firm, like after that, it's like Garrett nus Meyer,

1022
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 6: Taylor Green, we'll probably talking about more towards top one hundred,

1023
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 6: than we are for a top thirty two selection, arguably right,

1024
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 6: So I do think it is ty Simpson there for.

1025
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 5: The Reuben Bay thing. I like, so when you look

1026
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 5: at the amil exactly. Yeah. Funny enough.

1027
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 6: One of the one of the guys that I was

1028
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 6: hanging out with it covers the Tennessee Titans, Nick Suss

1029
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 6: for The Tennessee and he was actually taught. He actually

1030
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,479
Speaker 6: called a one of the best, one of the most

1031
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 6: renowned paleontologists in the country to talk about the t

1032
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 6: rex and like what it sounded really weird when I

1033
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 6: first heard it, but then I read the piece, I

1034
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 6: was like, this actually kind of makes sense. Like he

1035
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 6: was not basically talking about like what the deficiencies are

1036
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 6: for having short arms in like their habitsat which was

1037
00:44:58,800 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 6: just hilarious.

1038
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 5: I would actually recomm pieces.

1039
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: Right, We'll go, I mean I am a dinosaur freak. Immediately, Yes,

1040
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 3: it was so funny.

1041
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 5: It was like the most like off the wall thing.

1042
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 5: When I first heard it, I'm like, that is so silly.

1043
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 6: And then I read it and I'm like, it's kind

1044
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 6: of funny, Like it makes some sense.

1045
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 5: Like the parallels and everything. But all that is to say, like.

1046
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 6: I am I'm okay with going for outliers at times

1047
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 6: if you feel really vindicated in the outlier. But when

1048
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 6: we're talking about sub thirty one inch arms, people think

1049
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 6: it's silly and go to the tape. But when there's

1050
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 6: historical numbers of thousands of players since nineteen ninety nine,

1051
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 6: because that's where like mock draft, mock draftable excuse me

1052
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 6: goes back to and you see that there's been nobody

1053
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 6: with his measurements historically has been a good player in

1054
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 6: the NFL, Like, not a single one. You can understand

1055
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 6: why some NFL teams are like, I'm not betting on

1056
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 6: that guy as an outlier. Like there's no historical data.

1057
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 6: There's not even like one or two players. People keep

1058
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 6: trying to compare it to like Tourell Suggs. It's like Guysterrell

1059
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 6: Suggs had much like con certainly longer arms than he did,

1060
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 6: and so like there's just like that interesting battle of

1061
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 6: like the historical outlier conversation. I do think that ruben

1062
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 6: Bain is going to be a good outlier in sense

1063
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 6: of like he's going to be a good player, but

1064
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 6: I am worried about him being a premier pass rusher

1065
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 6: in the NFL level, because it's not just the arm

1066
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 6: length ability to play outside his frame. If you have

1067
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 6: lack of length though at one of those types of position,

1068
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 6: edge offensive tackle, you need over compensating traits in my opinion,

1069
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 6: to make up for it. And I think that his

1070
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 6: closing speed is like very average to blow average as well.

1071
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 6: So I think that he's going to cause a lot

1072
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 6: of havoc, but I don't think he's going to finish

1073
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 6: a lot of plays. So is that a guy you're

1074
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 6: taking in the top five? I wouldn't want to. Would

1075
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 6: I rather that guy be like a mid to late

1076
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 6: first rounder. Yes, I think in most years you'd rather

1077
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 6: him being that bucket because he's gonna be a good player.

1078
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 6: But as he had the upside to being an elite

1079
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 6: pro bowler, all pro, which you want to draft inside

1080
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 6: the top five, I just don't see that with Ruben Bain.

1081
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 5: I do have my concerns.

1082
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: Last thing, because everybody's curious, now, if there was a

1083
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: Tarannosaurus Rex in this year's drafts class playing at the edge,

1084
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: where would he go in the draft?

1085
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 5: I mean number one overall?

1086
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 6: Right, I mean like that's I mean, I don't know

1087
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 6: what the miles per hour on t rex are but

1088
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 6: I assume that they are quite fast for their size,

1089
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 6: and then they're also gigantic. So I mean, how many

1090
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 6: blockers would you need to handle a t rex, a

1091
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 6: real life t rex.

1092
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 3: I don't know, five, yeah, like yeah, like yeah, a lot.

1093
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 2: I'd worry about character concerns probably with the t rex.

1094
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 5: It's fair, He's it's killed a lot of things, right,

1095
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 5: So yeah, there's a lot of character cons there.

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Speaker 2: Plus their extinct.

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Speaker 1: Now, so I mean the medicals, I'm not sure the

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Speaker 1: medicals would come back clean.

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Speaker 4: Would you guys believe me if I said that my

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Speaker 4: literal handbag, like my purse that I carry everywhere right

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Speaker 4: now on my counter is a dinosaur.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm buying that as it is.

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Speaker 1: Ryan just met you, but I I've definitely that checks

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Speaker 1: that checks out.

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Speaker 6: I respected My wife's obsessed with dinosaurs. She's like, anytime

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Speaker 6: you know Jurassic World or Jurassic Parker on, she's watching it.

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Speaker 5: Right, So like, I respect it. I respect it.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate the time.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Robert's NFL draft College football analysts from A to

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Speaker 1: Z Sports go and check them out.

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Speaker 2: Where can people find you? Ryan?

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Speaker 1: What's the best way for people to discover your work.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, as I've gotten older, I do not engage as

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Speaker 6: much on Twitter, but you can follow me at Rise

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Speaker 6: and Draft. But the key there is that I do

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Speaker 6: content dump everything I do, whether it's a podcast or

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Speaker 6: it's an article or whatever. So at Rise and Draft

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Speaker 6: on Twitter, or you can just go to a to

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Speaker 6: z Sports. There's also a way on Google to list

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Speaker 6: aight to z sports as a preferred source, so like

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Speaker 6: they pop up to the top of your feet all

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Speaker 6: the time. I don't know anything about that. I'm not

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Speaker 6: as technologically savvy as that. But at Rise and Draft

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Speaker 6: on Twitter or a to z Sports is where you

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Speaker 6: can find all the content.

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Speaker 1: We're going to retweet a couple of your videos from

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Speaker 1: our Favorites page as well, so people can find you

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Speaker 1: nice and easy. Thanks so much, Ryan, enjoy the draft.

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Speaker 5: Thank you bo so much. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: That'll do it for today's episode special thanks to our

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Speaker 1: producers David Paine and Gifford gold stat sound, Evan Abrams

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Speaker 1: always hanging around giving us the goods.

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Speaker 2: Kendra have fun and Portugal.

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Speaker 3: We'll miss Oh I forgot I was not gonna see

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Speaker 3: you guys. Wow, whole week.

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Speaker 4: Wow, this I'm actually getting sad. This is really sad.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll get a nice recap from you on Tuesday's episode.

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Speaker 1: Coming up on Thursday, Stucky, we'll be back in the

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