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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast. Third hour of The Clay and Buck

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Speaker 1: Show gets going right now, everybody Clay out today with

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Speaker 1: fam I am solo. This is Buck and I saw

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Speaker 1: it break last night. It was not a surprise that

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Speaker 1: the Trump organization has been found guilty, guilty of a

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Speaker 1: bunch of financial financial improprieties or something. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about this. Understand, it's the Trump organization that has

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Speaker 1: been found guilty, right, so the company. The District Attorney

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Speaker 1: in New York, Alvin Bragg, is very pleased with himself

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Speaker 1: over this. Remember, it's impossible, really to keep track, and

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Speaker 1: unless this is your full time job, to keep track

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Speaker 1: of the various ways in which they are waging lawfare

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Speaker 1: against Donald Trum. They're never gonna let it go. There's

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Speaker 1: the moral lago probe, there's the Trump organization. Well, I

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Speaker 1: guess they just got their conviction, but that was going on.

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Speaker 1: There's the Georgia election thing that they're talking about. There's

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Speaker 1: the insurrection, there's obstruction. It's just endless, endless, and they

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Speaker 1: will not leave him alone because it's not enough for

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Speaker 1: them to have prevented him from being president for four

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Speaker 1: more years. They want to stop him from running this

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Speaker 1: time around. And they also want to destroy and dismantle

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Speaker 1: his movement and honestly to undermine and banish, to degree

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Speaker 1: they can, his family from public life too, the Trump

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Speaker 1: name itself. And in this New York Times piece you

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Speaker 1: get a sense as to what really comes out of

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Speaker 1: all this. It is a big nothing burger, folks, it

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Speaker 1: really is. What's interesting to me about this or noteworthy

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Speaker 1: isn't that there is a conviction of the Trump organization.

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Speaker 1: It's just what a bunch of maniacs the Democrats are

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Speaker 1: when it comes to anything still to this day involving

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, they simply will not stop. They will not

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Speaker 1: let this go. They will not allow him to just

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Speaker 1: live life. I know he's now a Republican Republican nominee,

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Speaker 1: or I should say, a Republican contender for the nomination.

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Speaker 1: He's announced. Fine, he's formally announced. But they were doing

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Speaker 1: this before that. They were doing this before that, and

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Speaker 1: it's only going to intense so while he was technically

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Speaker 1: in private life, and they're only going to intensify these efforts.

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Speaker 1: First off, here is Alvin Bragg. I find this particularly

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Speaker 1: galling because New York City has not turned around the

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Speaker 1: crime wave. New York is still much more you know,

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Speaker 1: people talk about that the time, the murder rate and

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Speaker 1: serious crimes, of course, and that's one those are the

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Speaker 1: most serious crimes we all know. But also it's really

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Speaker 1: meant to be an indicator of overall safety and the

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's gotten to the point now where we

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Speaker 1: to a new normal in which there's low level crime everywhere,

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Speaker 1: there's theft constantly, and then there's also a higher level

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Speaker 1: of violent crime and homicides than we've seen in a

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Speaker 1: long time. That should be the thing that is the

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Speaker 1: focus of the District Attorney in New York, no question

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Speaker 1: about it. And it's really one of the things that

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Speaker 1: makes me sad about Leezelden coming close but not quite

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Speaker 1: winning the governor's race in New York, although those long

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Speaker 1: a big win right in the Democrats backyard. It's not

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Speaker 1: very challenging. But I think Zelden did a really good job,

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Speaker 1: and that would have really sent a message because Bragg

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Speaker 1: And he listed a bunch of crimes, including like armed robbery,

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Speaker 1: on the circumstances, you know, YadA YadA. Remember this. All

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Speaker 1: of the talk that Democrats have about gun control, and

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Speaker 1: Here's Alvin Bragg. He's done a terrible job on crime

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Speaker 1: Here's Alvin Bragg though, back on the Trump organization conviction.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they are they gonna lock up? Are they

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Speaker 1: To take that Trump organization. We got a sign that

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Speaker 1: Teach that Trump organization a lesson. Anyway, Here's Alvin Bragg

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Speaker 1: on the conviction that he got played twenty three. It's consequential.

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Speaker 1: you know, when it won standard for corporations in Manhattan,

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Speaker 1: I did really made for everybody lose all their body here.

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Speaker 1: say as a leftist. So there's no animosity toward him

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Speaker 1: from the media. In fact, they're still trying to rehabilitate

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Speaker 1: his image. Oh maybe he'll turn it all around. Maybe no,

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Speaker 1: There's no turning it around. But he hasn't been indicted.

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Speaker 1: And how many investigations have they had of Trump of

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Speaker 1: all different kinds, And here they bring it. They bring

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Speaker 1: and you wonder, you say, well, how much couldn't they

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Speaker 1: That is the maximum fine the Trump organization based on

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Speaker 1: but they don't know how to fill this with somebody else. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they may try. They're going to say other Republicans are

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Speaker 1: I will say this though there's a lesson. There's a

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Speaker 1: What is the sense within the medical community in your

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Speaker 1: mind right now that there should be some real introspection,

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Speaker 1: about group think, about policy failures, getting things so wrong

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Speaker 1: so many times over a two year long period, And

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Speaker 1: to feel like they can walk around and no longer

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Speaker 1: be in the grip? You know, some people walk around

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Speaker 1: worried about their NIH funding, They're worried about being seen

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Speaker 1: as a pariah. Well, you know, a bunch of us

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Speaker 1: a lot of doctors reach out to me and they say, gosh,

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Speaker 1: think unless more doctors just speak openly and honestly. Doctor McCarey,

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Speaker 1: why America does not trust the CDC, Doctor McCarey. Always

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Speaker 1: appreciate you being with us. Thanks so much, Thanks Buck.

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Speaker 1: It is really shocking that we're still in this place,

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Speaker 1: Buck Show. Thanks for rolling with me today. I was

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Speaker 1: obviously in solo as Clay is just out doing some

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Speaker 1: Also bucksxen dot com slid I'm sorry, yeah, bucksx and

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Speaker 1: you got from my friend? Hey? Thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about quickly about Elon Muska buying Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna go out on a limb and my

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Speaker 1: what to ignore. And when when Rush Limbaugh on August

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Speaker 1: Then became then new uh, conservative radio programs came along

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Speaker 1: And what that what that? What that of that? Uh?

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Speaker 1: The alternative did was awakened the American people that are

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Speaker 1: And it gave the people power to the confidence and

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Speaker 1: last three or four years, the unelected bureaucracy of the

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Speaker 1: And if Elon musk Is is true to his word,

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Speaker 1: ask you, George, you have any are you going to

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Speaker 1: get on Twitter? Oh? Yeah, I am. I am on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: They I've been on. I've been on four five years.

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Speaker 1: But I've noticed the last four or three or four

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Speaker 1: a I'm someone who likes life affirming life affirming options.

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Speaker 1: Off am activist for that. But I noticed when I

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Speaker 1: lot more impacts in the last Oh yeah, George, We've

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Speaker 1: blow people's minds when they eventually see it. Thank you

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Speaker 1: George for calling in. Yeah, obviously Rush was the initial

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Speaker 1: Thank you. William in Mississippi has some thoughts on the

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Speaker 1: Georgia election. What have you got for me, William, Well Buck,

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Speaker 1: I appreciated. I think that one of the things that's

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Speaker 1: Seven of the eight went Republican. The problem wasn't some

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Speaker 1: points of the governor. The Republicans are going to have

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Speaker 1: to remember the party just doesn't vote. They won't hold

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Speaker 1: And we've also got to figure out that the direction

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Speaker 1: I think we would probably have better results across the board. Well,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you calling in. Thank you for that. And

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Speaker 1: And so what was the difference? Why was this different?

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of it's interesting people yell I know

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Speaker 1: think it's I mean, look herschel Walker as a candidate,

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Speaker 1: there was never a risk given. You don't have to

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Speaker 1: seen I've seen those similar signs in the past, Jim,

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Speaker 1: thank you for calling in. Appreciate it. Yeah. Look, they

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