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Speaker 1: be that'll be interesting. He he what he says? What's
Speaker 1: it was? I heard the cut. It was embarrassing that
Speaker 1: Brady went to Tampa because he had to beg to
Speaker 1: go to Tampa. That he's saying. Now, you you heard
Speaker 1: Jason Light, the GM for the Buccaneers, say recently that
Speaker 1: when they called to recruit Brady on March eighteenth, they
Speaker 1: were surprised because Brady was kind of selling himself on
Speaker 1: them and telling him how good he'd be there and
Speaker 1: how much of a fitted would be and so on
Speaker 1: and so forth. I said, that's a sign of how
Speaker 1: excited he is to play in Tampa Bay. Rob said
Speaker 1: he had to sell himself to the Buccaneers because nobody
Speaker 1: else won it. No, I think, and um, I know
Speaker 1: there were at least two other teams that that thought
Speaker 1: they had a chance. Right Miami I think would have
Speaker 1: been Giselle's first pick, and the Chargers probably would because
Speaker 1: I think he did the same thing with the Chargers
Speaker 1: as well, because the Chargers were as far as selling them. Yes,
Speaker 1: because from what the reports say that only the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: and the Chargers made offers. I also think New England,
Speaker 1: you know, would have taken him, but I think but
Speaker 1: I mean, I think New England would have, but I
Speaker 1: think that the right under the right circles. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's even the circumstances. I don't think Brady. I
Speaker 1: think Brady made it known he wasn't coming back a
Speaker 1: long time ago, and that yeah, see, I think I
Speaker 1: think if they had upgraded yea, you know, Stefan Diggs
Speaker 1: was out there, DeAndre Hopkins was out there and been
Speaker 1: willing to pay him. Um, he probably wanted two years,
Speaker 1: but you know, even been willing to pay because they
Speaker 1: talked about a pay cut, right, a one year deal
Speaker 1: on a pay cut. So I think those are the
Speaker 1: things that made him want to leave. I don't do
Speaker 1: I think it would have been harder to leave if
Speaker 1: he had a Stefan Diggs. Absolutely, But I think this
Speaker 1: general sense was that he was and that was kind
Speaker 1: of why he had to sell sell that he was
Speaker 1: leaving to both the Chargers and the Buccaneers, because I
Speaker 1: think both of them thought, well, this doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: Why would you leave New England? Like he won twelve game,
Speaker 1: won twelve games last year, Like, why are you gonna
Speaker 1: up end your old family? Like no, no no, no, he
Speaker 1: got this, he got this. So I believe that's just
Speaker 1: how Tom Brady is. That's just that's just how he is.
Speaker 1: When you have a conversation with him, he finds a
Speaker 1: way to find the positive and how it's gonna work.
Speaker 1: I don't think that speaks poorly to his He's not begging.
Speaker 1: I also think it it speaks to how difficult it
Speaker 1: is to find a team. Look, Cam Newton is a
Speaker 1: guy who's out of the league right now. Jameis Winston
Speaker 1: out of the league. James Whitson through Yes, he threw
Speaker 1: thirty picks through five thousand yards last year. Hey, he
Speaker 1: does not have a team, because where are you gonna
Speaker 1: There's just a limited number of teams that aren't either
Speaker 1: pod committed to their quarterback or two committed to a
Speaker 1: younger quarterback or committed to drafting a younger quarterback. And
Speaker 1: if you get a Brady, you know, you got to
Speaker 1: be in position to feel like you're gonna win right now.
Speaker 1: And that means you're not going to use any of
Speaker 1: your resources to get some air apparent, right You got
Speaker 1: to kind of go all in on it. And there's
Speaker 1: just not that many teams out there, and then there's
Speaker 1: even smaller number of teams that fit a Cam Newton
Speaker 1: coming off injury. He doesn't want to take backup money,
Speaker 1: wants starter money, and he wants more than one year. Well, like,
Speaker 1: there's a limited number of teams you can go to
Speaker 1: see I would love and if I'm a team, I'm
Speaker 1: only offering Cam one year, I want to see him
Speaker 1: for one year. First, I want to see you stay healthy.
Speaker 1: And I don't mean played fourteen to sixteen games, I
Speaker 1: mean be healthy for fourteen to sixteen games. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: he's played some seasons where he played virtually the whole
Speaker 1: season but been banged up. I mean just his last year,
Speaker 1: you know, not last season, but the season before that,
Speaker 1: he played the whole year, but he was banged up
Speaker 1: for the second half so couldn't be himself. So I
Speaker 1: definitely am looking at him only for one year if
Speaker 1: I'm a team, but I and I know they won't
Speaker 1: do it. I think they want to see Stidham four
Speaker 1: a year, see what he can do, and then go
Speaker 1: from there if they have to get somebody else. I
Speaker 1: would love to see Cam in New England though just
Speaker 1: one year. Belichick has all now, and Belichick doesn't do
Speaker 1: this a lot of coaches you would say, Okay, that's
Speaker 1: just coach speak. He's talking up the competition all that. Belichick,
Speaker 1: you know that doesn't always do that. He has praised
Speaker 1: Cam Newton. I think I would just like to see
Speaker 1: him use him clear because if he did, they just
Speaker 1: go out there and sign him. Yeah, So I'm saying
Speaker 1: I think it could be a good fit. Well, it's
Speaker 1: pretty obvious based upon the fact that they made no
Speaker 1: effort to go after him, that they that it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter what you say, it's action, right. Was that your wife? Right? No?
Speaker 1: I just like, look, he's never been an accurate thrower.
Speaker 1: Accuracy is one of the top two or three things
Speaker 1: you need in the NFL. He was a guy who
Speaker 1: is a runner who doesn't want to run anymore because
Speaker 1: he's been so banged up. And here's the bigger The
Speaker 1: biggest thing is you know he wasn't throw it. Not
Speaker 1: only was did he have shoulder surgery, but his his
Speaker 1: motion doesn't look the same, his arm isn't the same.
Speaker 1: So you take a guy who is an inaccurate thrower
Speaker 1: who can throw the ball deep downfield, and you don't
Speaker 1: know if you can still throw it deep. He's never
Speaker 1: been terribly accurate. He's a runner who doesn't run anymore,
Speaker 1: like why, And he's a guy who carries a hefty
Speaker 1: level of confidence to eat go in what he can do.
Speaker 1: You don't want to take a one year deal, and
Speaker 1: he does. He wants to take starting quarterback money. Well
Speaker 1: guess what, dude, Yeah, that's not But this is this. Honestly,
Speaker 1: you don't think Doug he could be. So you just
Speaker 1: think that Cam Newton we saw two years ago. Remember
Speaker 1: at the beginning of what would that have been the
Speaker 1: eighteen nineteen season, I guess remember the first eight games
Speaker 1: they were six and two. He was fifteen touchdowns, four picks.
Speaker 1: His accuracy was looking better as completion percentage was high
Speaker 1: for him. You know he was looking he was in
Speaker 1: the MVP discussion at that point. You just think he
Speaker 1: can't be even close to that guy anymore. Well, look
Speaker 1: I because that wasn't that long ago. It's not just
Speaker 1: that guy anymore. His former coach who coached was forever
Speaker 1: nine years needed a quarterback, needs a quarterback, and didn't
Speaker 1: have to if you could just wait till he got cut,
Speaker 1: could have gotten him for whatever, and instead he trade
Speaker 1: for his backup who's making five hundred eighty thousand dollars. Right,
Speaker 1: So it's not me telling you, it's you know, get
Speaker 1: that though. The guys his injuries just for are frustrating. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you have you have the injuries, and then you
Speaker 1: have he's just a specific type of fit. Do I
Speaker 1: think he would be an unbelievable backup in Baltimore? Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: an unbelievable backup involved. But I wouldn't even think about
Speaker 1: bringing him to Baltimore, would you. Why? Here, here's why
Speaker 1: he's Cam Newton and you you kind of alluded to this,
Speaker 1: and it's not just that's why he can't. That's why
Speaker 1: he can't. That's why he can't go to to Buffalo
Speaker 1: where you know they're trying to continue keep the confidence
Speaker 1: of their starting quarterback, because once Lamar Jackson or Josh
Speaker 1: Allen had a bad game or two two bad games
Speaker 1: in a row, there's going there would be the drum
Speaker 1: beat for Cam and with his ego, he might be
Speaker 1: suddenly leading the drum beat. Yes, yes, but I don't
Speaker 1: think I would. I think. Look, do I think Lamar
Speaker 1: will come back to Earth? I do, um, But I
Speaker 1: also think that Lamar Jackson's been a league MVP and
Speaker 1: he's got he runs, He's that well regarding the organization,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's I agree with you in that
Speaker 1: other teams with young quarterbacks don't want to bring that
Speaker 1: guy in. Look, I mean Russell Wilson. He'd be a
Speaker 1: great backup to Russell Wilson, who's always running around. Do
Speaker 1: you think, always on the brink of getting hurt. Do
Speaker 1: you think Russell Wilson wants that behind him? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: zero zero zero chance. So we're shrinking fewer and fewer
Speaker 1: and fewer options of where legitimate. I think he's definitely
Speaker 1: a backup. I don't know where he can start other
Speaker 1: than my if Miami strikes out, why doesn't it Why
Speaker 1: don't the Chargers go after Uh, well, the Chargers have
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, who's essentially the same age and more accurate,
Speaker 1: fewer interceptions, been in the system for a year, and
Speaker 1: and the and the and then, but not only would
Speaker 1: you admit that, no, we don't know. Tyrod Taylor's as
Speaker 1: good as Cam Newton, not as good as Cam Newton
Speaker 1: in his peak. But Cam Newton is not Cam Newton
Speaker 1: his peak. Cam Newton, I hate to be this guy.
Speaker 1: Look at Cam Newton's numbers. He's a below sixty percent passer.
Speaker 1: He is not an accurate thrower. The league is more
Speaker 1: on accuracy, okay, and less on you know, less on
Speaker 1: on deep balls in big plays. Even the year they
Speaker 1: were he was the MVP there fifteen and one. You know,
Speaker 1: they only played one good team the whole season, right,
Speaker 1: They one team in the Super Bowl. They did get
Speaker 1: the super and he was awful in it. And he
Speaker 1: but again it gets that get that's against the Broncos defense.
Speaker 1: But but but the point is this Tyrod Taylor also
Speaker 1: and here's the most important part, or two most important parts. One,
Speaker 1: he makes seven point five million dollars. Okay, so even
Speaker 1: if he's slightly less than Cam Newton. Well, you think
Speaker 1: Cam Newton can be seven point five million dollars when
Speaker 1: you're the Chargers and you're gonna want you gotta Redo Hunter,
Speaker 1: Henry Deal, he's a franchise tag, Joey Bosa and then
Speaker 1: probably Keenan Allen as well. You can spread that money around.
Speaker 1: And here's the bigger thing. Anthony Lynn called plays in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: His quarterback was Tyrod Taylor. They went to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: So there's a there's a trust factor there that is
Speaker 1: does not exist with Cam. You don't know his arm
Speaker 1: is healthy. You don't know if he can pick up
Speaker 1: your system because he's a guy who had struggled to
Speaker 1: pick up other systems in the past. How much I'm
Speaker 1: sure he wants too much money. And oh yeah, by
Speaker 1: the way, you got Tyrod Taylor everybody likes. And then
Speaker 1: you draft a young quarterback and if Tyrod Taylor's not
Speaker 1: good enough, eventually he gets supplanted by the younger quarterback.
Speaker 1: That's the way it works. I know the Charges have
Speaker 1: no interest in him, they're just not I'm with you,
Speaker 1: and I've said this before Cam Newton, and to me,
Speaker 1: this is a cautionary tale for Lamar Jackson. Cam Newton
Speaker 1: is worn down because of all the running. He ran
Speaker 1: more than any quarterback in history. I believe, you know,
Speaker 1: over time to Lamar's doing that per season. But Cam
Speaker 1: Newton's twice as big as Lamar jack He's a giant man. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's absolutely giant. Worn down from the running. And I
Speaker 1: know they let him take some hits that they don't
Speaker 1: let other quarterbacks take because he's so big and he was,
Speaker 1: you know, such a powerful runner. But that should be
Speaker 1: a cautionary toil number one for Baltimore. But I get it,
Speaker 1: he is worn down. I don't know if he can
Speaker 1: be healthy for a full season. All those questions are legit.
Speaker 1: If I'm the Chargers, though, I need. I need a
Speaker 1: buzz number one. And I'm not saying Cam Newton is
Speaker 1: gonna bring him what Tom Brady would have. But he
Speaker 1: is a big name, and I do think he would
Speaker 1: put some fan give you some type of buzz in
Speaker 1: the LA area. Yeah, I mean, look, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think Tom Brady would have kind of in a
Speaker 1: David Beckham, I don't think Cam would have. I think
Speaker 1: he's much bigger, and he's bigger in the South, Like
Speaker 1: if Jacksonville is gonna sell tickets. That's where they should go.
Speaker 1: Right uh And and look, Jacksonville needs a quarterback and
Speaker 1: right now they're doing the Gardner Minshew thing. Why one
Speaker 1: because he's accurate, and two he doesn't cost him anything
Speaker 1: custom nothing, so they can build. They can recompletely rebuild
Speaker 1: a team. And doesn't mean they know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't be a better team with Cam Newton. They
Speaker 1: probably would, but this is why they've gone that route.
Speaker 1: But Cam's name is much bigger in the South. I'm
Speaker 1: just telling you to anybody who thinks the charge the
Speaker 1: Chargers have zero interest, it's not not even I don't
Speaker 1: think they're interested. I don't know who's interested. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm I think you have to wait for you and
Speaker 1: that I don't see teams. I've heard people say Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: as a backup, but would makes sense. But he has
Speaker 1: to he has to decide. Now. Remember the job of
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback. This's what a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: understand is not it doesn't necessarily matter how good you
Speaker 1: are unless you know you have to play as a
Speaker 1: backup quarterback. You're supposed to be ready, but your number
Speaker 1: one job is to get the starter ready right to
Speaker 1: support that guy. And Kim has never had to do that.
Speaker 1: That's just a completely foreign role to him. Nah And
Speaker 1: and I don't think at thirty one, I'm sure he
Speaker 1: thinks he's still very young. He obviously thinks he's still capable.
Speaker 1: And maybe if he's I do think they're I'm leaving
Speaker 1: open to possibility, Doug that if he can get fully
Speaker 1: healthy or you know, healthy for him, that he can
Speaker 1: still be a productive, a very productive quarterback in the league.
Speaker 1: But I don't see anybody. It doesn't seem like anybody's
Speaker 1: willing to give him that shot. I think he'll get
Speaker 1: a shot. I think right now teams have have teams
Speaker 1: have kind of transition from free agent mode to draft mode,
Speaker 1: and then they'll be somebody who doesn't get the guy
Speaker 1: they want, and they'll also be and here's the other
Speaker 1: side to it, they'll probably be a team that trades
Speaker 1: up to get the quarterback they want, and then there'll
Speaker 1: be another veteran quarterback on the market. Right there's still look,
Speaker 1: Jamison is still out there, he's still available. We don't
Speaker 1: know what becomes of Andy Dalton. We don't know what
Speaker 1: happens with Ryan Fitzpatrick and some of these other quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: But but there are guys, you know, like a Derek
Speaker 1: Carho right now looks like he'll be the Raiders starter
Speaker 1: with Mariota's the backup. But we've seen the Eagles signed
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford and then trade up and draft Carson Wentz. Well,
Speaker 1: we've seen the Bears signed Mike Glennon and trade up
Speaker 1: and draft Mitchell Trubisky. You know, we've seen We've seen
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals sign again Sam Bradford, trade up and
Speaker 1: get Josh Rosen and then part ways of Josh Rosen
Speaker 1: just one year later. So I think right now is
Speaker 1: not the time. I do think Cam will get a shot.
Speaker 1: The only question for Cam is if you can't be
Speaker 1: a starter day one, then do you sit and wait
Speaker 1: or do you go to a team and be a backup.
Speaker 1: I think he probably sits and waits and stays ready
Speaker 1: for somebody to get hurt or somebody to fall in
Speaker 1: their face. Yeah, that makes sense, because again I can't
Speaker 1: see him with his ego, he's still young age wise.
Speaker 1: I can't see him accepting a backup role, and I
Speaker 1: can't see him being a good backup because as you said,
Speaker 1: his job is to get the starter ready. He wants
Speaker 1: to beat out the starter right and thinks he's should
Speaker 1: be I'm sure wherever he goes who probably think he
Speaker 1: should be the starter. And he's also a guy that
Speaker 1: can rally. I think there'd be a lot of guys
Speaker 1: in the locker room that would be on, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: on the Cam Newton bandwagon, and let something go wrong
Speaker 1: with the starter, and then you're gonna that's what I mean,
Speaker 1: You're gonna start hearing you know. It would just media
Speaker 1: would play into it, and then even players in his
Speaker 1: own locker room would probably play into maybe Cam should
Speaker 1: get a shot. Why don't we put Cam in something
Speaker 1: like that? And now you've got a controversy. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be fascinating to see what happens. By the way,
Speaker 1: it's one of these are some of the reasons Colin
Speaker 1: Kaepernick didn't get a job after he got cut by
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Wasn't just a kneeling. It was he had injuries.
Speaker 1: Guys didn't know how he could throw, how he would
Speaker 1: fit in. He didn't. He didn't. He clearly didn't want
Speaker 1: to be a backup. He didn't want backup money. He
Speaker 1: didn't want to talk about being a backup, and there
Speaker 1: was there was a limited plant number of places where
Speaker 1: he had worked with somebody before, and so all of
Speaker 1: these things kind of kind of kind of factor in. UM,
Speaker 1: all right, Well continue with some NFL coming up next
Speaker 1: the last Dance. The documentary about the Chicago Bulls will
Speaker 1: be dropped early by our former employer Chris. But I
Speaker 1: can't wait. I can't wait either. But I think I
Speaker 1: think they're violating one of the core tenants, or are
Speaker 1: the core tenants of broadcasting. I'll tell you what that is.
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Speaker 1: know if you've ever heard this uh expression or maybe
Speaker 1: saying it like I guess expression is a saying. It's
Speaker 1: told to me. When I first started working, I got
Speaker 1: named Dan stee or hired me to do college basketball
Speaker 1: games to the ESPN. He's he used to say, if
Speaker 1: you've told a story once on a broadcast, you haven't
Speaker 1: told it. And the idea is like, look, people come
Speaker 1: in and out of a game. You tell a story
Speaker 1: about a guy in the first half and don't tell
Speaker 1: it again. Must not have been that good a story.
Speaker 1: You know you want, You did all the work, you
Speaker 1: found the research, you found a good story. Tell it
Speaker 1: the same thing on a radio broadcast, as you guys know,
Speaker 1: you play the hits whatever the big for ESPN, What
Speaker 1: are they doing spacing this thing out? Right? Like play
Speaker 1: five in a week, play one at night, then play
Speaker 1: the next five the next week. You can do reviews.
Speaker 1: You can do shows within shows of it, if you'd,
Speaker 1: if you'd like right, like like you know they do
Speaker 1: with The Bachelor when they have after the final rows
Speaker 1: where you talk about it but play them, then play
Speaker 1: the next and then do it again, repeat for the
Speaker 1: next two weeks. Like I just the idea of making
Speaker 1: us wait when there's nothing else on TV and replaying
Speaker 1: it is not going to hurt you. Get it out
Speaker 1: as early as possible. And then for people who missed
Speaker 1: episode three, whatever, they can always go back and watch
Speaker 1: it either via Netflix, whatever, or can watch it the
Speaker 1: next time that it's on. I wasn't sure where you
Speaker 1: were going. I was like, I know, Doug's not gonna
Speaker 1: say was a bad idea to move it up? No,
Speaker 1: it should have been should already be on this withe,
Speaker 1: should be on this weekend, right. I totally agree with you,
Speaker 1: though everything else you said. Yes, they should have started Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,
Speaker 1: play the You could have a two week what it's
Speaker 1: a ten show, so I guess one week run two weeks, yes,
Speaker 1: or if you if you just do weekdays on the
Speaker 1: weekends or whatever, but yes, and you could own the
Speaker 1: evenings because everybody's gonna want to watch that. I totally agree.
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't understand why they are
Speaker 1: spacing it out. I think it's it's an older TV mentality,
Speaker 1: you know, It's like, why don't you put something on
Speaker 1: Friday night? Well, everybody goes out on a Friday night.
Speaker 1: Not anymore, dude, not anymore. Everybody's and it's a different day, Doug, Like, Look,
Speaker 1: the blessing of being able to binge watch, yes, is
Speaker 1: that you can you don't have to wait till next
Speaker 1: till a week later to see the second episode, right,
Speaker 1: or the third episode of the way, you just watch
Speaker 1: the whole thing. And then the curse is that. Okay, dang,
Speaker 1: I wish I was still watching The Stranger or or whatever,
Speaker 1: Tiger King or whatever it is, you know, so that's
Speaker 1: the problem. But yeah, I agree with you. They should
Speaker 1: have ran the whole thing every night and then just
Speaker 1: play it back. Chris Chris Mannock, senior writer for Sports Illustrated,
Speaker 1: joins us here on The Dan Patrick Show along with
Speaker 1: christ Brusharda'm Doug gottlieb Uh First, Mannix Uh? Where are you?
Speaker 1: And what is your daily life like? I'm in Boston now.
Speaker 1: I basically drive between Boston my place in Vermont like
Speaker 1: every three or four days to mix it up a
Speaker 1: little bit. But like everybody else, I'm stuck indoors um. Okay,
Speaker 1: But what's the what's the weather like like in in
Speaker 1: at least, I know New York area has been pretty nice.
Speaker 1: In California, it was rainy kind of the first week
Speaker 1: and now it's back to being, you know, a little
Speaker 1: bit cool. But California, whether people are walking a ton.
Speaker 1: What is in Boston and in Vermont? What's it like? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's still pretty cold. I mean you're getting up
Speaker 1: to like the low forties at some points. I saw
Speaker 1: somewhere next week it'll be in the fifties, So I
Speaker 1: guess we're creeping up there, but we haven't gotten to
Speaker 1: that kind of hang out outside kind of weather, which
Speaker 1: makes it infinitely worse to be dealing with all this.
Speaker 1: Can you figure out why ESPN won't just drop all
Speaker 1: the docks at once while they're you know, doing five
Speaker 1: week deal? Five weeks seems like a lot. You know,
Speaker 1: if I was looking for a compromise, I'd go like
Speaker 1: every other day, where you had one day of the
Speaker 1: whatever the episode was, and then like with like The
Speaker 1: Walking Dead and shows like that, you could do like
Speaker 1: a show within show like you said there, like you
Speaker 1: could do like Talking Jordans or something and have people
Speaker 1: on to discuss what they just saw in that episode
Speaker 1: to space it out more. But five weeks seems a
Speaker 1: bit excessive, it does. What do you think the likelihood
Speaker 1: we have an NBA season is? You know, if I
Speaker 1: had to put a percentage on it at this point,
Speaker 1: I would probably say in like the twenty five percent range,
Speaker 1: And then that's just based largely on what we know
Speaker 1: right now about where we are and where this problem
Speaker 1: is heading. I just you know, I talk to people
Speaker 1: every day within the league office and on different teams,
Speaker 1: and it's the same kind of pessimistic response. I do
Speaker 1: think though, that you know, if there's an NBA season,
Speaker 1: it's gonna take place in Las Vegas. I'm almost certain
Speaker 1: of that at this point. I mean, if no other
Speaker 1: reason than logistically traveling between cities feels like it's almost
Speaker 1: impossible for the next six months. I mean, at least
Speaker 1: you're just not going to be able to have a
Speaker 1: serious Memphis in La if La is on lockdown and
Speaker 1: Memphis is not, and it just creates so many logistical issues.
Speaker 1: I just believe if this thing gets done, it gets
Speaker 1: done at a closed venue in Las Vegas. Chris, I
Speaker 1: think you and others have mentioned I think you are
Speaker 1: one of them that maybe it's just if you have
Speaker 1: everything in Vegas, it's some type of big tournament rather
Speaker 1: than your typical playoff run. First of all, is that
Speaker 1: accurate that that's a possibility that there could just be
Speaker 1: I'm not saying a March Madness one and done, but
Speaker 1: some type of tournament that's unlike our playoffs. And two.
Speaker 1: If that's the case, how much legitimacy do you think
Speaker 1: will all place on whoever the winner is. Like if
Speaker 1: Lebron say they do a tournament Lebron James and the
Speaker 1: Lakers win. I mean, how much do you think we
Speaker 1: really look at that is oh, that's his fourth three.
Speaker 1: You know, it's a good question I fall back on
Speaker 1: as long as it's not like a one and done
Speaker 1: hyper tournament, I look at it as legitimate. I mean,
Speaker 1: I remember back in like nineteen ninety nine and when
Speaker 1: the Spurs won and there was criticism of them winning
Speaker 1: that championship because it was a lockout shortened season. You know,
Speaker 1: that kind of went away after a while people look
Speaker 1: at the Spurs that legitimate champion. Same thing with that
Speaker 1: sixty six game season from a few years ago. I mean,
Speaker 1: it would certainly be unique. But I think as time passes,
Speaker 1: we won't look back on that year and say that's
Speaker 1: an asterisk. But look, I just as far as like
Speaker 1: what they're considering, I do think everything is on the
Speaker 1: table at this point. Any kind of tournament is on
Speaker 1: the table. They clearly can't have a traditional seven game
Speaker 1: first round series, seven game second round and so on.
Speaker 1: That just can't happen in the timeframe that they're probably
Speaker 1: going to be looking at over the next couple of months.
Speaker 1: And one thing they have to run up again is
Speaker 1: that when players come back, you know they're going to
Speaker 1: insist on a training camp, and I don't know how
Speaker 1: long that training camp is going to be. You know,
Speaker 1: some players I've talked to, I said four weeks are
Speaker 1: needed at this point. I think two weeks is probably
Speaker 1: more likely. But you know, guys I've talked to are
Speaker 1: just sitting around like they're not doing anything, Like they're
Speaker 1: like just like you and me, you know, on YouTube
Speaker 1: and looking for a home workouts. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: like there's just going to be a concredible lack of
Speaker 1: conditioning from the players that come backs and require them.
Speaker 1: So I say that because if let's say, in the
Speaker 1: best case scenario, we get to mid May and things
Speaker 1: have cleared up enough, the CDC says, look, you can
Speaker 1: have gatherings of like one hundred and fifty people, which
Speaker 1: opens up TV broadcast. All right, Well, then you say
Speaker 1: we're gonna get everything backstarted in June. June first, then
Speaker 1: you have to have that training camp, and then maybe
Speaker 1: you want to have five regular season games or something
Speaker 1: at the end to deal with the playoffs. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just think I think early July is probably the
Speaker 1: earliest we're going to see anything potentially start. Chris Mannix
Speaker 1: Joan is from Sports Illustrated along with Christousharda'm Doug Gottlie.
Speaker 1: This is the Dan Patrick Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1: And then you start to think, all right, first, in
Speaker 1: terms of this season, shouldn't Lebron wanted to be played
Speaker 1: like their championship window is not exactly wide open in
Speaker 1: the future as the Warriors be back next year. I
Speaker 1: know it's the East, but the Nets should be very talented.
Speaker 1: The Celtics are getting better, not getting worse, with Jason
Speaker 1: Tatum kind of growing into a superstar, and I would
Speaker 1: think other teams in the West are going to try
Speaker 1: and figure things out. The Clippers will have more cohesiveness,
Speaker 1: and Paul George will be further way from injury. Kawhi
Speaker 1: Leonard could be fully healthy. Like, if I'm Lebron, I'm
Speaker 1: still I'm ticked. Obviously this thing derailed their season, which
Speaker 1: was looking like a dream season. But I want to
Speaker 1: get this thing in because this may be the best
Speaker 1: shot he's got. Yeah, I agree with you. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, if any player is upset about what happened.
Speaker 1: It's Lebron James the most at this point because of
Speaker 1: the way they were playing and the way he was playing.
Speaker 1: And while you know, we can all assume Lebron is
Speaker 1: probably going to play at a pretty high level over
Speaker 1: the next couple of years, it is only a year
Speaker 1: ago that he missed thirty plus games due to injury,
Speaker 1: and that kind of stuff can happen. I think the Lakers,
Speaker 1: you know, look, the Lakers have a chance to get
Speaker 1: even better next summer. They've got two exceptions in there
Speaker 1: in the collection in their salary cap situation where they
Speaker 1: could pay somebody close to ten million dollars and they
Speaker 1: could pay somebody else close to four million dollars. So
Speaker 1: they're going to be able to dangle that as a
Speaker 1: carrot and maybe get one of those midlevel ring chasers
Speaker 1: that could beef up this this team. But there's no
Speaker 1: guarantee Lebron is going to play like the second best
Speaker 1: of the of the MVP in the league next year,
Speaker 1: and if he takes even a half a step back,
Speaker 1: that could open the door for somebody else. Chris, you
Speaker 1: mentioned Lebrin being second in the MVP race. I agree.
Speaker 1: I think it's clearly yannis um. But let's say worst
Speaker 1: case scenario, and this is a minor thing in the
Speaker 1: grand NBA scheme, but worst case scenario they don't finish
Speaker 1: this season. Do you still think they would have award
Speaker 1: regular season awards you're coaching on a yeah, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they do all that. I mean, they you know,
Speaker 1: they want to maintain some sense of normalcy in all this,
Speaker 1: and you know the voting may come in Midsummer at
Speaker 1: that point. But I haven't had this specific discussion with
Speaker 1: the league. I mean, when you when you talk to
Speaker 1: league officials, like they'll they'll talk to you a little
Speaker 1: bit about kind of what's on the table and what's not.
Speaker 1: But one thing they'll say is like, man, everything's frozen
Speaker 1: right now. We're planning like hypotheticals, but there's no actual
Speaker 1: planning in terms of logistics and dates and things like that.
Speaker 1: They're just not doing They're just not able to do
Speaker 1: much of anything until they get some type of clarity.
Speaker 1: But if the worst case scenario happens, I do think
Speaker 1: we'd see awards handed out. If the worst case scenario happens,
Speaker 1: the other team that's dramatically affected as the Bucks, they
Speaker 1: had what we thought was two years to prove to
Speaker 1: Yannis they can compete for and win a championship. That
Speaker 1: would be short to one. Yeah, I mean that's one
Speaker 1: of the I mean, not one off. That's probably the
Speaker 1: biggest off season question whenever the off season starts. I mean,
Speaker 1: is hasanis if this season gets scuttled, has Yannis seen
Speaker 1: enough from Milwaukee to make him believe that they're the
Speaker 1: best team for his future and he signed that supermax
Speaker 1: contract of a quarter of a billion dollars. Look, I
Speaker 1: know there's a lot of speculation out there about what
Speaker 1: Jannis might or might not do. I don't think anything,
Speaker 1: and nobody really knows what he's thinking. But it certainly
Speaker 1: is a body blow from Milwaukee to not have a
Speaker 1: postseason run to prove the Yannis that they're the best
Speaker 1: in the best situation. So I really don't know which
Speaker 1: way Yannis would go into what he'd be thinking if
Speaker 1: the year got scuttled, but it would put in Milwaukee
Speaker 1: in a very interesting position if he said to them
Speaker 1: this summer, look I like it here, but I need
Speaker 1: to see more. I'm gonna go into next season. I
Speaker 1: would assume the Bucks would roll the dice and say, look,
Speaker 1: we've still got a great team. We have a chance
Speaker 1: to get to the finals. But I mean, I know
Speaker 1: a lot of teams we're banging on their door trying
Speaker 1: to see if they can Fry Yannis lose. Chris, I
Speaker 1: want to ask you a boxing question before you go. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the Deontay Wilder Tyson Fury three has been postponed. I
Speaker 1: don't know what type of training he's able to do.
Speaker 1: But does this help Wilder at all? The fact that
Speaker 1: this is postponed, I think it helps Wilder a lot
Speaker 1: more than it helps Fury. Time off has never been
Speaker 1: a friend to Tyson Fury, like he just when he's
Speaker 1: focused and working, he's great. When he's not, you know,
Speaker 1: we've seen in the past things have kind of gotten
Speaker 1: away from a little bit. He seems like he's okay
Speaker 1: now talking to people that are around him in the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, and he's on social media, working
Speaker 1: out and stuff like that. So that's good, but it's
Speaker 1: definitely better for Deontay Wilder. I mean, I was worried
Speaker 1: that Deontay Wilder coming back after just five months after
Speaker 1: getting knocked out into the same type of fight that
Speaker 1: would have been a terrible idea. Now, if it is
Speaker 1: pushed to October, he's going to have that full five
Speaker 1: months to basically rest. And once you know that, you
Speaker 1: get to the end of the summer, he can enter
Speaker 1: into a full training camp and come into that that rematch,
Speaker 1: the most important fight of his career, with a fresh
Speaker 1: body and a fresh mind. So absolutely, for Deontay Wilder,
Speaker 1: this is almost a gift to be able to push
Speaker 1: it down to October. Yeah, and the most important thing
Speaker 1: is you won't be wearing that outfit. That's that's the
Speaker 1: reason he lost. Was he's wearing that was it was
Speaker 1: like the the the it was like excuse bingo coming
Speaker 1: from Deante for a while, it was just like it
Speaker 1: was like, hey, it's the outfit, and then it's the referee.
Speaker 1: Then there's a you know, a next fighter in the
Speaker 1: stands that's yelling at my trainer, and then it's my
Speaker 1: trainer for stopping the fight. Just look at Deante is
Speaker 1: a great guy. I'm sure you guys have talked to
Speaker 1: him with various points, but he's he's a tremendous guy.
Speaker 1: Is Yeah. I just think he just missed badly on
Speaker 1: all those those excuses. Asking will he have a chance.
Speaker 1: Will you give him a chance in the second in
Speaker 1: the third fight, I guess, oh, you always. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, beyond anything can happen. Well, I mean with
Speaker 1: that kind of a racer, he always getting a chance.
Speaker 1: And it looked Fury. Fury's excellent, but I've called a
Speaker 1: lot of Fury fights in my career, and like he's
Speaker 1: been knocked down by lesser fighters. He was knocked down
Speaker 1: twice by Wilder in the first fight. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think Deante has got to have a better game plan
Speaker 1: going into that fight, but he's not going up against
Speaker 1: the guy with a granite chin that you can't knock
Speaker 1: down or knock out. He lands that big shot, it's over.
Speaker 1: The question is, and we've seen this time and again.
Speaker 1: When guys get knocked out like that, the aura of
Speaker 1: invincibility disappears, like it did with Mike Tyson, and their
Speaker 1: own confidence disappears too. If they think they can't just
Speaker 1: wipe a guy out with one punch, they've become different
Speaker 1: fighters as well. I'm interested in the fight and I'm
Speaker 1: hoping this leads to a bunch of great heavyweight fights,
Speaker 1: but my confidence that Wilder can win is limited. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then there's the question of weight, right, because he
Speaker 1: put on weight for that last fight, so it stands
Speaker 1: the reason that he would lose weight would what would
Speaker 1: Fury do? Would Fury trim up or would Fury come
Speaker 1: in as big as he came in? You know, and
Speaker 1: when he press, you know, when he pressed the way
Speaker 1: he did, you know, just a couple of weeks, you know, couples.
Speaker 1: I don't even how long ago. I guess it was
Speaker 1: a month ago. It feels like two years ago, whatever,
Speaker 1: you know. I think there's that kind of interworkings of
Speaker 1: the fight. The thing is, though, in terms of like
Speaker 1: boxing skill, it hasn't really been close. It's just been
Speaker 1: Wilder has that one weapon, and he got to uncork
Speaker 1: it twice in the first fight. Yeah, I mean, you
Speaker 1: could make an argument that what was it nineteen total
Speaker 1: rounds that Fury won, you know, seventeen of them, you know,
Speaker 1: besides the two he got knocked down in in that
Speaker 1: first fight. I mean, he's a tremendously skilled fighter, and
Speaker 1: we know that Deontay Wilder is not a skilled fighter.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, he's all the fighters that fights, he's
Speaker 1: been in most of them, he's been down on the scorecards,
Speaker 1: so they have gone to the later rounds. Like Luis Ortiz,
Speaker 1: I was at that in that fight, he was losing badly.
Speaker 1: He just comes back and blasts you out of there.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what Deontay does. I mean, one
Speaker 1: thing that Anthony Joshua did after Andrew Ruiz knocked him out,
Speaker 1: he didn't fire his trainer, but he supplemented his team.
Speaker 1: He brought in some guys from the Kronk Gym in Detroit,
Speaker 1: guys that taught him new things that proved to be
Speaker 1: effective in the rematch. I'd love to see Wilder. If
Speaker 1: he's gonna keep j D's and Mark Breeland his longtime trainers, great,
Speaker 1: keep them, but add some people to that team that
Speaker 1: might be able to show you some things that you
Speaker 1: hadn't done before that could be effective in the rematch.
Speaker 1: I just don't know if you can teach a guy
Speaker 1: you're going against a lifetime boxer, you know, who's dad
Speaker 1: was a boxer against a guy who's an athlete who's
Speaker 1: learned to become a fighter, right, Like, I just yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what. Yeah, it's it's it's like it's like, honestly,
Speaker 1: there's like a Lebron James thing like, man, I wish
Speaker 1: Lebron James could move without the ball better, you know, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well Lebron James is thirty four, Like that sucker ain't
Speaker 1: move without the ball. He's gonna have the ball and
Speaker 1: you know, and he's gonna try and play downhill and
Speaker 1: that's kind of who he is at some point in time.
Speaker 1: You know you you you are what you are? What
Speaker 1: what's your Chris Mannos our guests from from Sports Illustrate,
Speaker 1: All right, last thing, Mannix. There has to be something
Speaker 1: you want to recommend to people to watch or to read,
Speaker 1: because sounds kind of miserable for you, no boxing, no
Speaker 1: hoops and no ability to get outside neither Vermont or
Speaker 1: in Boston. Sounds like a lot of coffee and a
Speaker 1: lot of watching or reading of something. What is it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd like to say that there's like a go to
Speaker 1: right now in terms of watch I've I've spent an
Speaker 1: extraordinary amount of money on iTunes in the last like,
Speaker 1: you know, two weeks, like every movie I've ever wanted
Speaker 1: to see. I mean I just bought pad Boys for
Speaker 1: Life on there, So I'm gonna be watching that this afternoon. Um,
Speaker 1: so I guess that's what I would recommend, and I'm
Speaker 1: trying to and I start of the year, one of
Speaker 1: my resolutions was to read a biography of an American
Speaker 1: president every month. So I'm kind of back into that
Speaker 1: mode once again. So you know, we'll well, we'll see.
Speaker 1: I'm on Chester A Arthur right now, so we'll see
Speaker 1: how that goes. I have, Chris, I bet you that
Speaker 1: you are loving that ride everyone three or four days
Speaker 1: because I'm about I'm after the show, I'm going to
Speaker 1: the grocery store and I'm so excited. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest, just to get out of the house
Speaker 1: and get somewhere. Well, I'm like, you guys don't have families,
Speaker 1: Like I'm cool. I live alone, like I'm good man.
Speaker 1: I just like it's it's quite relaxing actually just hanging around.
Speaker 1: I mean, as of like three weeks ago, I still
Speaker 1: had my Christmas tree up, like this was like like
Speaker 1: this is my life is very much sort of surreal. Yeah, no, listen,
Speaker 1: I mean it's with with the kids. The only hard
Speaker 1: part is the homeschooling thing. But you actually get you know,
Speaker 1: you get family dinners, you get to do things, you know,
Speaker 1: play board games with them, watch movies with them like
Speaker 1: you actually kind of Scott. Now, I do think there'll
Speaker 1: be no family vacation this summer because family is just
Speaker 1: gonna try and get away from each other. But yes,
Speaker 1: it's a The driving thing is you know, I drove
Speaker 1: in here where it can take up to an hour
Speaker 1: and a half and it's like forty five fifty minutes
Speaker 1: in your set. So there's there's some there is some good.
Speaker 1: But we're all ready to have sports back. Man, it's
Speaker 1: great stuff. Dude, be safe on that trip to Vermont.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for joining us. Hey time, guys, I
Speaker 1: got I got a story for you. Chris Off Beverly
Speaker 1: Hills police officers busted U made a bust involving one
Speaker 1: of the most in demand items during the coronavirus pandemic.
Speaker 1: Patrolling officers discovered one hundred and ninety two rolls of
Speaker 1: toilet paper inside of stolen suv. What what is what?
Speaker 1: What's part is dumber the fact that the guy's got
Speaker 1: driving around a stolen suv, or that inside the stolen
Speaker 1: suv he's got one hundred and ninety two rolls of
Speaker 1: toilet paper. Unbelieve he obviously he's planning on making a
Speaker 1: killing he was selling him. Yes, yes, yes, wow, yes
Speaker 1: apparently apparently. Wow, that's a toilet papers like gold right now?
Speaker 1: That is? How much could you need? How that is?
Speaker 1: I'm good? You know what. I'm short on his clean X.
Speaker 1: I gotta go get some cleanex. You couldn't use the
Speaker 1: toilet papers clean X. I don't know if I could,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to waste it. I don't want
Speaker 1: to get caught out there. Lee our producer Lee, Yeah, Lee?
Speaker 1: Are you all right? Lee? A week ago Lee had
Speaker 1: like a quarter of a roll left whole House down
Speaker 1: to one play for the whole House and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I had to get up at seven am to go
Speaker 1: get it to go. I'm gonna you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let you in on something that I should have
Speaker 1: told Mannix about. Do you know what the hardest part
Speaker 1: about drives that that that last more than thirty minutes? Nowadays,
Speaker 1: if you have to go to the bathroom, Yeah, especially
Speaker 1: if you have to go more more than number one,
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't run into places, right. You can
Speaker 1: mobile order and go pick up, but it's not like,
Speaker 1: oh hey, come in and stink up our bathroom too.
Speaker 1: You're like, no, I'm just I'm telling you, like, this
Speaker 1: is the thing you don't realize like people tell it's like, man,
Speaker 1: huh are you driving in every day or most days?
Speaker 1: For the show about half and a half, because I
Speaker 1: would think, like I said, I was told my wife,
Speaker 1: I haven't really been out of my house significantly great
Speaker 1: since Friday. There's no there's no there's no there's no
Speaker 1: traffic and no smug right, And I mean, is it
Speaker 1: I've thought about just getting out, just going for a
Speaker 1: drive just to kind of get out. Yes, that yeah,
Speaker 1: it's probably therapeutic, that drive. It is. It's cathartic. It's cathartic, no,
Speaker 1: no question about it, no question about with Christmas sartime.
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Speaker 1: SR to listen live. Now, Chris, do you get a
Speaker 1: refund for the girls in college? Like you getting of
Speaker 1: your money back? Or that checks already? Said there's no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you know what, the great thing first of all this
Speaker 1: bad news is no, the good news is we just
Speaker 1: finished paying for them because they're you know, they're both seniors,
Speaker 1: and so we're done paying for them. So that is
Speaker 1: I'm just so especially at this time, I'm just so
Speaker 1: excited about that. But you know, both of their graduation
Speaker 1: ceremonies were canceled or you know, postponed to some later date.
Speaker 1: And so my daughter from University of Michigan is back
Speaker 1: home taking classes online. My daughter at Penn is still
Speaker 1: she had an off campus play, so she's still in
Speaker 1: Philly but taking classes online. M I was gonna ask you,
Speaker 1: and you know, I've her people talk about the homeschooling,
Speaker 1: and obviously I don't have to deal with that, but
Speaker 1: they're so homeschooling. What's making it really tough is homeschooling
Speaker 1: Yet you're working at the same time, So is your wife?
Speaker 1: Did she work or was she at home? She's at
Speaker 1: home before, Okay, so she was at home anyway, so
Speaker 1: she does have the time to really homeschool and work. Yes,
Speaker 1: but it's it's not it's you know, it's not easy.
Speaker 1: It's not easy because you have I have three and
Speaker 1: three different schools, and so one has school every morning
Speaker 1: at eight o'clock gets up. But but those they're doing
Speaker 1: it on line, yeah, virtual. The other one. I have
Speaker 1: one who they really didn't. They only miss like a
Speaker 1: week in private school and she has full set of
Speaker 1: classes every day. And then my son they do virtual
Speaker 1: three or four days a week, but it's only for
Speaker 1: two hours. And then everything's kind of handed out. And
Speaker 1: right now the public schools, because not they're not allowed
Speaker 1: to advance, they're they're doing all review um and because
Speaker 1: they don't have assurances that everybody in the district has um,
Speaker 1: has internet. They they've handed out all the chromebooks but
Speaker 1: out the Internet, so they're they're still kind of reviewing.
Speaker 1: So they're kind of stagnant. But it's not when you
Speaker 1: have different schedules and you're trying to get them outside
Speaker 1: and you know, not be on a device all day.
Speaker 1: It's it's not. And plus they get to an age where,
Speaker 1: let's just be honest, it's harder for us to help them. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: my my eighth grade daughters, it's it's hard. In math,
Speaker 1: like I forgot how to do slope. I just don't
Speaker 1: know how to do slope and shading of graphs. I'm
Speaker 1: just not my my son. I'm still I'm still the
Speaker 1: smartest person on earth in fifth grade, but in eighth grade,
Speaker 1: I am not a history That's why you go history
Speaker 1: because I know and care more about history in English
Speaker 1: Town than I did when I took history in English. No,
Speaker 1: I totally agree. Like and then they do new math.
Speaker 1: They do math differently they do they do they do
Speaker 1: do do a new math. Um. All right, so you're
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna start tire tonight. Uh. My wife and
Speaker 1: I actually were planning to start a new show tonight.
Speaker 1: So maybe if I can get her into it. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it sounds like the type of things
Speaker 1: she'll want to watch. It's but a little trying to
Speaker 1: sell her on it. You have to watch it where
Speaker 1: your wife or body did know my wife? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: my wife's from Oklahoma. So it's one of those like yeah, tough,
Speaker 1: this is no it's like one of those this is
Speaker 1: not that far fetched a thing. All right, Chris'll be
Speaker 1: back tomorrow. I'll be back Friday. This is the Dan
Speaker 1: Patrick Show.