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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome to I've never said this before with

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Speaker 1: me Tommy Di dario Q, that iconic Jurassic Park theme song,

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Speaker 1: one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever made.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to John Williams the King, because today my guest

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Speaker 1: is taking us to the Land of Dinosaurs. David Aicano

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Speaker 1: stars in Jurassic World Rebirth, one of the most highly

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Speaker 1: You also know and love David from dead Boy, Detectives,

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Speaker 1: Fear Street, prom Queen, and the fan favorite series The

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Speaker 1: Summer I Turn Pretty, which is wrapping up its final

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Speaker 1: season when it premieres July sixteenth. I am so impressed

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Speaker 1: by not only the immense talent that David has, but

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Speaker 1: by what a grounded and kind and thoughtful person he is.

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Speaker 1: His answer to what he has never said before, it's

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Speaker 1: something that we can all apply and really take to heart.

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Speaker 1: And in this conversation we really get a behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes look into some of his beloved roles and you'll

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Speaker 1: find out what happened on that surprise FaceTime with Steven

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Speaker 1: Spielberg one night during filming Jurassic World. Oh, and Summer

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Speaker 1: I Turn Pretty fans, is he team Conrad or Team Jeremiah.

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Speaker 1: So let's see if we can get David to say

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Speaker 1: something that he has never said before. David, my friend,

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Speaker 1: how you doing today?

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 1: I am fantastic. It's nice to see you in a

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Speaker 1: temperature controlled room.

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Speaker 2: Oh, we got some comfy chairs in air conditioning.

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Speaker 1: There we go. We met obviously at the premiere for

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Speaker 1: Jurassic World. We were sweating our butts off, indeed, So

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Speaker 1: I'm happy to be here with you and not suffering.

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Speaker 2: Dude, mind, my budd is still in Texas.

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Speaker 1: Okay, good, happy to know that, Happy to know that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Well, well, welcome. I am super

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Speaker 1: psyched for you you have. I mean, what a moment

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Speaker 1: it is for you. Man. You were in two of

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Speaker 1: the hottest projects of the summer, right, obviously, Jurassic World Rebirth,

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Speaker 1: which is out now, and the Summer I Turn Pretty,

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Speaker 1: which is coming out. So I mean, have you slept?

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Speaker 1: Do you need a vacation? Do you want me to

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Speaker 1: like cook you chicken cut? Let's say you can relax

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Speaker 1: and enjoy, like, are you okay if.

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Speaker 2: You're open to cooking me chicken cut? It's I'm so down? Okay, good,

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Speaker 2: let's exchange information like a time and place and I'm

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Speaker 2: down Chicken Coultors in a while. Yeah, I'm okay, I'm

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Speaker 2: sleeping as much as possible. I'm just trying to keep breathing,

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Speaker 2: and I'm trying to be as present as possible and

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Speaker 2: like soak it all in for what it is, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's a lot right now for you.

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Speaker 1: But all good, It's great.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm so grateful. Man. It's like, especially Jurassic I

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Speaker 2: just feel like I've I don't know, it's just such

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Speaker 2: a beautiful, like legacy to have joined, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. It's like film history. It's it's Bielberg in

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Speaker 2: the nineties. Like, yeah, you can't answer anymore.

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Speaker 1: So, well, what's cool about you is you're in two

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Speaker 1: obviously Jurassic Park and the summer I Turn Pretty was

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Speaker 1: just have no fear stepping into work now, like, cause

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Speaker 1: you're you're going to these jobs that you know, people

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Speaker 1: Do you just not have any kind of concerns or

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Speaker 2: So it's a good question, though, I feel like, nah,

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Speaker 2: that's a great question. I did this movie called Cinnamon

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because it is an original character, Yeah, which

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Speaker 1: you have an audition. What is auditioning for a dinosaur

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I had a friend of mine come in and like,

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Speaker 2: best thing about Jurassic the Originals and this New One

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Speaker 2: for the characters and their relationships. So that being said,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and did you know what a big part you

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Speaker 2: Thank you? I think it was a little bit of

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Speaker 2: People are kind of sick of Diynash at the beginning

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Speaker 2: I didn't think it would. Wow, it's a pleasant surprise.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh that's awesome. We'll testament to the work you did. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: what you do. Well, we'll say that. Do you think

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Speaker 1: this installment is the scariest in the entire franchise? How

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Speaker 2: Oh? Man, I think I don't want to be disrespectful

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Speaker 2: it's so beloved and it is so scary. I think

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Speaker 2: think circumstantially, the stakes and the situations that our characters

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Speaker 1: It does feel like a return to the original. I

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Speaker 2: Good. I'm glad. Yeah, that was very intentional, and they

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Speaker 2: brought David Kep back. Yeah, and Gareth is such like

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Speaker 2: very happy to hear you say that.

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Speaker 1: So what was the most exciting part for you in

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Speaker 1: were like, I cannot believe I'm here doing a Jurassic

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Speaker 2: Man, I had a couple of those moments. I think

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Speaker 2: We had a great stunt team, great marine team with

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Speaker 2: Dude, no, totally. It is intense. It's it's gritty and

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Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't know why I didn't

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's amazing. I love hearing that. And you're right,

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Speaker 2: to Larry ecss, But in New York they cheered so

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00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 2: loud when he when my character dives off, and it

432
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 2: was so rewarding and like cathartic, and I dreamed about

433
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,239
Speaker 2: having moments like that when I was a kid.

434
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 1: Your big hero moment. Yeah, your big hero moment.

435
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 2: Look at that.

436
00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 1: That's that's amazing. Well, you are killing it in one

437
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,199
Speaker 1: of the hottest blockbusters of the entire summer, which is

438
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,480
Speaker 1: just so damn cool, and people have been waiting for

439
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 1: this movie to come out. They're also waiting for the summer.

440
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 1: I turned pretty final season was that weird wrapping up

441
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 1: a part of your life that's that's just been there

442
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,679
Speaker 1: for so long. Like, do you grieve when something like

443
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,879
Speaker 1: that ends, Stuart? Do you just kind of move on?

444
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 2: That was an interesting experience for me because, you know,

445
00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:04,480
Speaker 2: Can as a character resonated with so many people in

446
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 2: a way that surprised me, And I think that surprised

447
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 2: Jenny Hahn, the creator of the show. I wasn't even

448
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,639
Speaker 2: really meant. I don't think initially she intended me to

449
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,399
Speaker 2: be even in the second season, because in the books.

450
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,640
Speaker 2: My character's only in the first book, and then he's

451
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 2: like mentioned in the second book, and like not at

452
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,879
Speaker 2: all in the third book. So I fa thought I

453
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 2: was even in season two felt like a bonus experience,

454
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,040
Speaker 2: Like it almost felt like I wasn't supposed to be

455
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 2: but because everyone loved him so much, I was happy

456
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 2: to be there. So it didn't really feel like grief,

457
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,240
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, I felt like maybe I

458
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 2: grief the experience. I grieve the experience, and I made

459
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 2: like the best friends that some of the best friends

460
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,520
Speaker 2: that I have right now are because of that show.

461
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 2: My roommate is because of that show. I went to

462
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,159
Speaker 2: high school with some people in that show, and you know,

463
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 2: it just felt like really serendipitous. So if there's any

464
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 2: grief involved, it is that of just not being able

465
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 2: to go to set with those guys every day. Yeah,

466
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 2: God willing I do it again with them on a

467
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 2: different project. But it's just such a special time capsule

468
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 2: in my life.

469
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: It's so cool that you're also tight, right, And yeah,

470
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 1: you went to high school with.

471
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 2: Lola and Sean as well, who plays her brother. Oh

472
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 2: no way, Yeah, he was two years older than us.

473
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 2: In New York Gardia, okay, which is right across the

474
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 2: street from Lincoln Center, which is where we work for

475
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: the Jurassic premiere the other day.

476
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 1: That's so cool.

477
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 2: Such a full circle.

478
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,000
Speaker 1: And your roommates with Chris No, no, Sean, Oh, with Sean.

479
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 2: I don't know if I should say that. Nobody's gonna like.

480
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 1: No, we don't know where. It's fine, It's fine. That's

481
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,040
Speaker 1: really cool. I love hearing that because when you see

482
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,280
Speaker 1: such a tight knit group on screen, you hope that

483
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 1: that translates to off screen, and it doesn't always, as

484
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 1: you know, and as I know, you know, it's work

485
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: and you hope that you are cool with your colleagues.

486
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: But when you really have that bond, I imagine it

487
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 1: just makes the process so much better totally, especially working

488
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: long hours and doing all of that.

489
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely Yeah, being able to like goofle off in between

490
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,159
Speaker 2: takes and or even not talk to each other in

491
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 2: between takes. Like I know, person sometimes I feel like, I,

492
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 2: you know, if I'm if I'm at work and we're

493
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 2: in between setups or something, I need to like still

494
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 2: be entertaining, Yeah, still be on. But it's really nice

495
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:10,640
Speaker 2: when you're close with people to know that you don't

496
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 2: have to and they don't care. Yeah, and I don't

497
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 2: care and we can just chill on the best Yeah,

498
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: I mean just be on our phone.

499
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 1: So that's a sign of a true friendship. So yeah,

500
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: when you don't have to be on totally.

501
00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like moments of silence are not awkward with any.

502
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: Of those Yeah. So oh, I love that.

503
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 2: Well.

504
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: Cam is a fan favorite. He's you know, he's he's

505
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 1: sweet and endearing and just a good guy. Like he's

506
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,959
Speaker 1: just a good guy. Right, So from season one to now,

507
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 1: what would you say you learned about yourself through playing Cam.

508
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 2: It's a great question. I've always said that I admire

509
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 2: even from the first season. He's kind of like a

510
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 2: character in that show that I think is an anchor

511
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,639
Speaker 2: for a lot of people. He's he goes through changes,

512
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: of course, but I think he's the most constant out

513
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: of anybody in the show. And so he's always been

514
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 2: even in season one when he was like seventeen sixteen seventeen,

515
00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 2: he was confident in his works and his awkward nature

516
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 2: and his his mess ups, and I think that's why

517
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,119
Speaker 2: people kind of fell in love with him. I think

518
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,119
Speaker 2: he's very relatable to a lot of fans, and if anything,

519
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 2: I feel as if that's taught me to be the

520
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,479
Speaker 2: same way. You know, I'm a very heavy person. I'm

521
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 2: very in my head a lot, and he is too,

522
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: but he's proud of it and he uses it to

523
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 2: his advantage. And I think it's why Belly takes a

524
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 2: liking to him in the first season and he sticks

525
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 2: around in the second season and hangs out with everybody

526
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 2: still because he's just relatable. So yeah, I think, if anything,

527
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 2: just to let your freak flag fly and be proud

528
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 2: of it.

529
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: You know, do you know people still there? There is

530
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 1: a group of people who still were hoping you and

531
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 1: Belly would have worked out, like they exist, Like, yeah,

532
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: people are Team Jeremiah and so you can comrade, but

533
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: there are people who are, like, oh, Team Cam would

534
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: have been great, right, That must feel cool?

535
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 2: Feels great? Man, I don't know if I like what

536
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 2: people root for characters that I play.

537
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great. Well, that begs the question Team Jeremiah

538
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 1: or a Team Conrad. Man, you're trying to get me

539
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: in some terrible I don't know what's say.

540
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: I'll say team Cama. It has to be Team Camp.

541
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 2: I will never jump off of that boat. I love

542
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: both of those guys so much. They're both like such

543
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: good friends of mine. They would both be very upset

544
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 2: with me if I said want it not.

545
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 1: So you're saying season three, the plot twist is it's

546
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: team Cam.

547
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 2: It's team Cam Cam Mary's belly. They ride off into

548
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 2: the sunset on a horse.

549
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 1: Can you imagine it? Can you imagine that build up?

550
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: And then that happens.

551
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's so many, I think, very small people that

552
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: were like yes, and then ninety percent of the orders

553
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 2: to be like are we serious? Is that really ending?

554
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah? All right, well, stranger things have happened. We'll see

555
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: never say never. So what are you most excited for

556
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 1: people to see regarding your character?

557
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I don't want to. I don't

558
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 2: I really don't want to give too much away. Okay,

559
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 2: all right, it's it's people will be excited nonetheless, And

560
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 2: I think Jenny did a really good job of like

561
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: putting a bowl on everything.

562
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: Well that's what I was gonna say without saying anything.

563
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 1: Do you think people will be happy with how it ends?

564
00:25:59,119 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: I think so?

565
00:25:59,680 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 1: Okay.

566
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 2: I think I think everybody on that show treats it

567
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: with like a lot of respect, and they care about

568
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 2: their characters, and Jenny cares like this shows her baby,

569
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: you know, she cares so much about it. So regardless

570
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,880
Speaker 2: of like what team anybody is on or anything like that,

571
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: I think everyone will be very satisfied where each character

572
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 2: ends up for sure.

573
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: Would you say this project is the one that kind

574
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: of changed your life the most?

575
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: Totally?

576
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 1: Yeah?

577
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean I owe so much to that show.

578
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 2: Like I just told you, I have so many you

579
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 2: know what I feel like, are lifelong friends from it.

580
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: It gave me like a really really wonderful following and

581
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 2: so nice to be like walking down the street and

582
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 2: for people to be like, hey, man, what's up. I

583
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: love your work? You know that? That is so you know,

584
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 2: as an actor, it's it's great to get validation like that,

585
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 2: you know. It's I think it's most important to feel

586
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: confident in your own work and feel validated, you know,

587
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 2: by yourself. But it's definitely a plus to be it's

588
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: my home, it's my home city, it's my hometown. To

589
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 2: be just walking down the street and people, I really,

590
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: I really what you did really resonate with me. That's

591
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: all that matters. So yeah, I mean it put me

592
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 2: on the map, I think, and I learned a lot. Yeah,

593
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 2: I love that show and other of those people.

594
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: Well, and what's so cool is, and I was kind

595
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: of alluding to this earlier, is you're you stepped into

596
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: a very popular franchise that has it built in fandom,

597
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: and you brought this character to life in a way

598
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 1: that makes those original fans and an entire new fan

599
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,959
Speaker 1: base love your work, which isn't always easy to do,

600
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: Like when people have an idea of what a character

601
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: should be or who they are, it could be a

602
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: lot of pressure, right, and and I feel like everyone

603
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 1: in this cast has really kind of rose to that

604
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: occasion and created something that everybody's so happy with. Yeah

605
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:43,960
Speaker 1: it's not easy.

606
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: No, no, it's not. And I think it's just a

607
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,480
Speaker 2: testament to you know, Jenny's like love for the show

608
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: and also also the every actor and it loves their

609
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: character so much. It's definitely something to be proud of.

610
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 2: And it feels kind of like, I don't know, like

611
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: I remember like Alson's Creek was on TV, or like

612
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: Gossip Girl, like you know what I mean. I feel

613
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: like you were too young for those absolutely too young

614
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: for those I did not watch them. But that being said,

615
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 2: that's kind of what I'm alluding to now. I feel like,

616
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 2: looking back on them, there's such classics, and yeah, I

617
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: don't want to you know, toot the show's own horn

618
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: too much, but I feel like, you know, in that space,

619
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: it's definitely a very beautiful addition to that genre. And

620
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 2: I think in years from now, it'll be really nice

621
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: to see people like looking back fondly on it.

622
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: Oh hundred percent. I mean people are literally heartbroken there's

623
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: no season for it. I Like I'm already seeing comments

624
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: all over social media like maybe just maybe there's a way,

625
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I think the story is kind of

626
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: wrapped up in the three seasons.

627
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's something really respectable too about you know,

628
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: not doing anymore than is necessary and like just serving

629
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: the characters in this story in a you know, respectful way.

630
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 2: I crazy reference right now, but I liked that they

631
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 2: did that with Breaking Bad, Like that's one of my

632
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 2: favorite time and like when they ended it, they didn't

633
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,959
Speaker 2: have to, but it felt really right for the story.

634
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 2: And as an artist, I think that is a very

635
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: just humble and grounded way of approaching concluding a series.

636
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: Have you had an epic wrap party. Yet with the cast,

637
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:13,719
Speaker 1: have you all celebrated?

638
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: We see each other a lot, Yeah, like we just

639
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: hang there was I don't think there was any like

640
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: specific time where we all did that, but we hang

641
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: out a lot.

642
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: That must be a really fun group chat.

643
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: It's a cool group.

644
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm not big on group chats myself, but that must

645
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: be a fun one fun with.

646
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: They're all idiots, like everybody just says the dumbest thing.

647
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 1: Is do you have to hit the mute button sometimes?

648
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely each other by being stupid?

649
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: Oh that's amazing. Season three is out July sixteenth, Yes,

650
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: sorry July sixteenth. Man, Like I said, busy and book?

651
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,479
Speaker 1: Do you ever just stop sometimes and think that, like

652
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: my god, I've accomplished so much at such a young age,

653
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: Like where do I go next? Like have you ever

654
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: dreamed you'd be right here in this moment in time?

655
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it'd be arrogant to say, yes,

656
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: I do think that. You know, this is all I

657
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: ever saw myself doing. I never, really, you know, never

658
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: wanted to be like a lawyer or a doctor or

659
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 2: anything like that, far more respectable jobs than what I do.

660
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: But now I never saw myself doing anything else. So

661
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 2: the fact that it's happening, it feels right. You know,

662
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: I'm happy to have arrived here so quickly, Like you know,

663
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: I've been working for a long time, but I'm twenty

664
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: three years old, so you know, I hopefully God willn't

665
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: have a long career ahead of me. But there's definitely

666
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: a lot of pinch me moments, man, and the pinching

667
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: never works. I never wake up, which is a welcome surprise,

668
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: and especially with your esset coming out, like just to

669
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: like I said earlier, be a part of something that

670
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: has left such a lasting impression on film lovers and

671
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: movie watchers and just even not sentophiles. It's such a

672
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: like it could even just be a casual movie watcher.

673
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: Everybody loves Jurassic Pork. So the fact that in this

674
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: timeline I am a part of that franchise, it doesn't

675
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: make any sense to me, but I'm endlessly grateful.

676
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: Well that gratitude will carry you through an entire you know,

677
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: four more decades of doing this right, like it really will.

678
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: And you're great at what you do, and it's awesome

679
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,719
Speaker 1: that you're building such a name for yourself in ways

680
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: that people dream of man, I mean, people dream about it,

681
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: so it's awesome. Do you think there's room for another

682
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: Jurassic movie? I? Oh, man, ude, have you heard any rumblings?

683
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 2: I know, like not really. I mean they don't, you know,

684
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: I don't think. I'm not sure if they know. To

685
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 2: be honest with you, I mean, I'm sure somebody knows.

686
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 2: But I spoke to David Kept, the writer at the

687
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 2: premiere the other night, and he's just really really happy

688
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: to be back working for this franchise specifically. He didn't

689
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 2: say anything about, you know, any potential movies, but it

690
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: does seem like he's very, very happy to be home

691
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 2: because he was so young when he wrote the first

692
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: one and then it took all for him. So I

693
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: can only imagine how he feels like coming back to

694
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: this place that you know, launch padded his career into stardom.

695
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: So if that's any you know, representation of where it

696
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: could go, I think he's excited. I'm put me in

697
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 2: four more of these, Dude. I had so much fun,

698
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 2: so I would love to.

699
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: All Right, anything can happen, right, Yeah, anything can happen.

700
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: What also strikes me at your point in your career

701
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: and where you are in life? Is that? Like I said,

702
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: I joked earlier when we sat down, like are you okay?

703
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: But genuinely, because it's a lot, right, and you're balancing

704
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: such a heavy work cycle and career and life right

705
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: and friendship and all the things that come with being

706
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: a human being, how do you kind of protect your piece?

707
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: Like how do you really recenter and tune out noise?

708
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: Yes, it's really really good question. I'm still trying to

709
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: figure it out. I think what I have learned is

710
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: that I think for a while getting kind of vulnerable here.

711
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 2: But for a while, I my family just growing up

712
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: was so important to me, Like that's and they still are.

713
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: But for a while, like when I was a teenager,

714
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: in a very kind of teen angsty way, you feel like,

715
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: because they're such a big part of who you are,

716
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 2: you need to like escape that a little bit, and

717
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: you feel like you can't, or at least I felt

718
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: like I couldn't be who I wanted to be or

719
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 2: who I was because they were such a big part

720
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: of me. And as I you know, do this huge

721
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: big project in the summer, I turn pretty and everything

722
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: that I've worked on, I have stumbled upon the realization

723
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: that you are I am who I am because of them,

724
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: I can still absolutely be my own individual person. You know,

725
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 2: a plant doesn't need to look like the seed, you

726
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So yeah, So that being said,

727
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: I lean on them a lot. I love I try

728
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: and make as much time as possible them, And they

729
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: all live in New York, so it's not too hard.

730
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: But just to be able to like hang out and

731
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 2: go eat with them and just turn my brain off

732
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: it is such a like cleansing cleansing feeling. So I'd

733
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: say family is really important to me. Exercise, of course,

734
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 2: it's like kind of a boring answer, but and I

735
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 2: don't be in the gym, but I love like playing

736
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: sports and playing basketball with my friends, and you know,

737
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: riding my bike as much as I possibly can. Again,

738
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 2: just anything that like feels like a cleanse and takes

739
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: me out of my head and puts me in my body,

740
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 2: that is I think that is really valuable and important.

741
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 2: I'm trying to start meditating to a good friend of mine,

742
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 2: Brian Ultimus, who's also an actor. Him and his girlfriend Gabsafa,

743
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 2: they just started like leading these meditations every every week.

744
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: Go check them out. By the way, they're so good

745
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: at their job. You can find them on Instagram. So

746
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: I'm definitely like interested in starting to work with them

747
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 2: a little bit. They're just good friends of mine. But yeah,

748
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: meditation I think is something very interested in as well.

749
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: That's cool that you're really prioritizing your health and your

750
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: mental health and your well being, right, because I think

751
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: we all have to do that, and it's easy to

752
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: lose sight of that. Yeah, especially with these Right, I'm

753
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: grabbing my phone, Like, to just not be suctioned to

754
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: your phone all the time is a taily battle. It's like,

755
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: all right, time to put it down. I'm watching a

756
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: show and i don't need to look at my phone

757
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 1: and I'm watching a show like enough, right, And it's

758
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: just like we're so programmed to do that. So just

759
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: being in your body is so important.

760
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, and other I think mental stimulants hope as well.

761
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: Like I'm reading, like I said, I'm reading the Jurassic

762
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 2: port Book right now, and that alone, just reading, I

763
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: think is also something that just to keep me like

764
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 2: intellectually stimulated and like keep my attention span from being

765
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: you know, the scroll and kills me. Yeah, it kills me.

766
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, I totally agree. Keeping Sometimes I try and

767
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 2: leave the house without it and it's like it's hard,

768
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: but it feels really rewarding by the end of the day.

769
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, well I like that you're reading too. I

770
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: try to do that. Do you'd like a hard copy

771
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: book or a kindle?

772
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 2: I do? I love a hard copy.

773
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: I know nothing bevizza, you.

774
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 2: Know what I mean. I totally get the appeal of

775
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 2: a kindle. Yeah, it's easier to carry around.

776
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: It has it's time and place.

777
00:35:59,280 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

778
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I love a good hard book. I know it's

779
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: the best. It's the best. It's the best. Well, David,

780
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: we are at that portion of the interview where I

781
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 1: wrap up the show with the same question that I

782
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: ask everybody, and it's based off the title of the show,

783
00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: which is called I've Never said this before, And I

784
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 1: created this show name because, as you remember from the premiere,

785
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: when I'm doing red carpets or junkets, you get three minutes,

786
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: four minutes, five minutes with somebody if you're lucky, and

787
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: it just leaves a very little room for genuine real conversation, right,

788
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: Like we're trying to get in your bites about the movie,

789
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: and we're and it's a lot of the same questions

790
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: every outlet wants, right, So I like to bring us

791
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: on who feel like they can share something they don't

792
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 1: always get to say whatever that means to you. So,

793
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: is there anything you can think of today that you've

794
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: never said before that you want to shout out?

795
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? For sure, Man. I feel like it's a little

796
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 2: bit cliche, but I feel like I've never really said

797
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: publicly that I'm proud of my work.

798
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: I love that.

799
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like in retrospect when I look

800
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: back on stuff like this Somewhere I Turn Pretty and

801
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 2: Dead Boy Detectives and all the other stuff that I've done,

802
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,959
Speaker 2: I feel proud looking back on it. But it's really

803
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: really difficult for me. I struggle with anxiety and OCD,

804
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: so it's really hard for me to I probably never

805
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 2: said that before either, I struggle with anxiety and OCD.

806
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: But it's really hard for me to stay as present

807
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 2: as possible and really like appreciate the work that I'm

808
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: doing while it's coming out and while it's being perceived.

809
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 2: Because I think as an actor in an industry where

810
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 2: so much of what you do is based upon how

811
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 2: it's received by others, and the validation that others give you.

812
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 2: It can be really hard to not be wired that

813
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: way and like to behave and act for the perception

814
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 2: of others and for the approval of others. So I'm trying.

815
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: I'm working on it lately, especially with Tressa coming out.

816
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: I'm really really trying to not not lean on others

817
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,760
Speaker 2: approval of my work so much and and and seek

818
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: validation from the audience. It feels nice, and it's it's

819
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: a like I said earlier, it's a bonus and it's

820
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 2: a plus. But I think a lot of actors deal

821
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: with this. I don't think it's a It's a very

822
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: uncommon experience because of the way the industry is built.

823
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 2: So uh yeah, I'm really working on just being proud

824
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: of myself for myself, and you know, not relying so

825
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: heavily and equating my own value to how others are

826
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: valuing me as an actor.

827
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: It's hard to do, right, I mean, especially those little

828
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: I can say it's my show. There's little bitches anxiety

829
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: and OCD when they want to creep in. I mean,

830
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: it just tells you a completely different story than what's

831
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: actually real, right, I Mean, how do you kind of

832
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,959
Speaker 1: push through that and not let that just cripple you. Yeah.

833
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: I think for a while I was trying so hard

834
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: to ignore it and run away from it and do

835
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: things that would just wrack myself from it. But you know,

836
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: through therapy and and through just experience, I've learned that

837
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 2: the more kind of healthy way to approach that is

838
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: just sitting with it. And you know, so what if

839
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: it's true? You know, so what if these lies that

840
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,919
Speaker 2: I'm telling myself for true? So what if I if

841
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 2: I'm telling myself that I'm nothing without people's and audience

842
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 2: watching me. Okay, so what if that's true? Then what

843
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 2: And you sit with it? And I think that makes

844
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 2: it way less scary of a monster to tackle, because

845
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 2: eventually your brain's just gonna get bored of it and

846
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, foe, this isn't working, you know what

847
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,240
Speaker 2: I mean, he's not believing it or he is believing

848
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: it and and and nothing's happening. So let's move on.

849
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 2: You know. I think that's a that's just a way

850
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: that I have. It's hard, Don't get me wrong, I

851
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: don't do it well every day. But that's another thing

852
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 2: I think I've learned is that it's it's not. It

853
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be linear, right, every day can be

854
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: different and that's okay. You don't have to be on

855
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: all the time and and uh breaking with that all

856
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: the time, and that's okay. So yeah, just being able

857
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 2: to sit with it and knowing that it's a shared

858
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 2: experience and being able to talk to you about it,

859
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: I think makes me feel really good. And I think

860
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: I have felt good in the past because I've heard

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Speaker 2: other people talk about it. So I think just being

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Speaker 2: as open as possible and vulnerable and the whole, you know,

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Speaker 2: crux of your show, I think is really respectable and

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Speaker 2: I think it's you know, I think it's important.

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Speaker 1: So thank you, man, I appreciate it. It's truly. I believe

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Speaker 1: we have so much more in common than we let on,

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Speaker 1: and I think a lot of that is due to

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Speaker 1: social media. I love me some social media, but like

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Speaker 1: we all put up the highlight reels, right, and we

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Speaker 1: all go through a lot more than just that. So

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Speaker 1: I like bringing people on who whatever that question means

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Speaker 1: to them, they can share something that they feel like

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Speaker 1: they've never said, or they want to help or pay

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Speaker 1: it forward or whatever. So I think that's back to you,

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Speaker 1: a very respectable thing for you to bring up and share,

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Speaker 1: because I know a lot of people listening are going

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Speaker 1: to say, oh my god, I go through that And

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Speaker 1: look at David. He looks like he's the king of

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Speaker 1: the world right now, but he also goes through this shit.

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Speaker 1: So that's I think one of the most human, beautiful

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Speaker 1: things that we can talk about. So I really love that.

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Speaker 1: And the last thing I'll say about that, too is

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of us struggle with saying we're

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Speaker 1: proud of the work we do. I guarantee everyone in

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Speaker 1: this room has had moments of that what I started

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Speaker 1: doing not too long ago. With certain friends who are

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Speaker 1: maybe like a little more woo wooy like I am.

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Speaker 1: We'll just like randomly text each other throughout the course

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Speaker 1: of the year and be like, you know what, I'm

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Speaker 1: really proud of myself because of X, Y and Z,

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Speaker 1: and I just want to text you telling you that

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Speaker 1: I am so proud of myself and it really makes

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Speaker 1: you feel good. And then like I'll get that from

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Speaker 1: a friend three months later and it's just like, oh Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's like a good reminder to stop and take notice

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Speaker 1: and give yourself props and not rely on other people

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Speaker 1: all the time, right, totally.

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Speaker 2: No. I love that. I thought you were gonna say,

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Speaker 2: which is also valid. But I thought you were going

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Speaker 2: to say, you guys text each other, how proud of

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Speaker 2: each other you are, which again that's so important to

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Speaker 2: like have it. Yeah, that too, but it doesn't do

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Speaker 2: it for me. Yeah, because in my brain, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: they're lying, you know what I mean? Yeaheah, you know,

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Speaker 2: so I really really I'm gonna start doing that.

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Speaker 1: Start doing it. Yeah, And even if you don't fully

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Speaker 1: believe it, just put it out there and then you'll

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Speaker 1: trick yourself and believe it, you know. Like it's like

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Speaker 1: you said, you kind of just quiet that voice, which

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Speaker 1: I think is so cool. Oh man, I don't want

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Speaker 1: this to end. This is too much fun. This is

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Speaker 1: too much fun. I will say it again. I feel

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Speaker 1: like we just met. But I love seeing, you know,

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Speaker 1: artists like yourself who are at the top of their game,

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Speaker 1: just crushing it and not only doing great work that

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Speaker 1: I know people love and respond to, but who have

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Speaker 1: such a good head on their shoulders, and you know,

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Speaker 1: to see you at this point of your life and

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Speaker 1: your career with that mentality and mindset makes me know

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Speaker 1: for sure that you will literally have decades and decades

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Speaker 1: and decades of work ahead of you in this business.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that more than you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it, so thank you for hanging out.

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Speaker 1: Of course, little bumdy to bring a dinosaur today, but

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about that later.

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Speaker 2: They're too late. Actually, is there one in Rockefeller Center?

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Speaker 1: There is? Yeah, there's a massive one. That's true. That's true.

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Speaker 2: All right, cool, we'll do take a line easy, we

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Speaker 2: work together really well.

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Speaker 1: Yn't wait, I'll go see later. Jurassic World Rebirth out

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Speaker 1: now the summer. I turn pretty out July sixteenth until

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Speaker 1: we meet again, my man, Thank.

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Speaker 2: You so much.

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Speaker 1: I've Never said this Before is hosted by Me Tommy Dedario.

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Speaker 1: This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Puglisi at iHeartRadio

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