1 00:00:01,639 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl. Hi. Everyone, 2 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: welcome to I Choose Me. This podcast is all about 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: the choices we make even when our bodies and our 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: hormones are in disarray. My guest today, doctor Amy Shaw, 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: is a double bored, certified MD and nutrition specialist with 6 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: a background in nutrition from Cornell University. Over the last decade, 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: she has built a world renowned wellness education platform and 8 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: written two best selling books, I'm So Effing Hungry and 9 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: I Am So Effing Tired. With her third out, now, 10 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: Hormone Havoc, she has found less invasive ways God bless 11 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,279 Speaker 1: her to help us transform our health, and she is 12 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: here to share. Welcome doctor Amyshaw. Hi, this is so fun. 13 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: I read book Yay like a speed reader and I 14 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: loved it. Okay, good, I'm so happy. I also just 15 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: love your titles. That the book titles. It's like it's 16 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: like you read our minds, like, Okay, so your first book, 17 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: I Am So effing tired, and then I Am So 18 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: effing hungry and yes, yes, yes it's true. My hormones 19 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: are incomplete havoc. It's like you know, was having with me. 20 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: So I'm so glad that you're here to help. 21 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: I'm so happy. I know I'm not. I always say, like, 22 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 2: I'm not only the doctor, but I'm also the patient. 23 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 2: So I get it because I've been going through all 24 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: of these phases and that's part of the journey. Like 25 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 2: I thought to myself, like, if I can't get answers 26 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 2: with all of these doctors around me and my own 27 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 2: medical training, how are people supposed to even navigate this? 28 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 2: There's no handbook. 29 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: Nope, that's right. We had no preparation for this. So 30 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: lucky the next generation will have. That's right all they 31 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: need to know. 32 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: And also like there's so much we can still do. 33 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: Like I don't know about you, but like I've changed 34 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 2: so much in my life and so much has gotten better. 35 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: M It's true knowledge is power and that brings us 36 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: great change. I hope you're comfortable with this because I 37 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: just want to jump right in. There's just so much 38 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about. Okay, you say 39 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: in your new book that getting older is inevitable. You're 40 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: going through hormone changes that lead to perimenopause, menopause, and 41 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: ultimately postmenopause, and you refer to this as the hormonal continuum. 42 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: So you've taken time out of your very busy schedule 43 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: to write a book to give us better understanding about 44 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: what that means and how we can start to thrive. 45 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: Why did you write this book? 46 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 2: Well, Kenny, I feel like everyone thinks of menopause as 47 00:02:54,960 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 2: this dismal thing that happens and life goes downhill from there, 48 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: and no one, like we said about handbook, there is 49 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 2: no handbook. You just kind of get there. You don't 50 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 2: know if you're there or not, and then you complain 51 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: and you think you're there, but like no one's there 52 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 2: to support you in any way, Like no doctors are 53 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: telling you what to eat or what to do or 54 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 2: how to optimize during this time. And you're laugh looking 55 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 2: at blogs and AI and you know, social media and 56 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 2: your friends and it's just a mess. And so when 57 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: I started to share nutrition and lifestyle knowledge, like it 58 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 2: was the women, the women in their thirties, forties and 59 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 2: fifties that were like, yes, tell us. So that's why 60 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 2: I wrote this. 61 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it seems like even though we're talking 62 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: so much more and more about these very important female topics, 63 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: there's there's still a lot of women out there who 64 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: don't know or who haven't you know, been listening lately, 65 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: they don't completely understand. So really quick, just give our 66 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: listeners the cliff notes of very. 67 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 3: Yes okay posts. 68 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: Most people haven't even heard of perimenopause because it wasn't 69 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: a thing like, it wasn't like nobody talked about it, 70 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 2: and so every one thinks there's menopause, like one day 71 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 2: you're just in menopause, and that's just not how it works. 72 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 2: It's like, for ten years, seven to ten years before menopause, 73 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: you're going through this decline in your hormones and they 74 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: don't just decline smoothly. They decline in a jagged like 75 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 2: roller coaster pattern. And so what you're left with is 76 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 2: seven to ten years of where you're feeling like you're 77 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: in the space of like having symptoms. Sometimes it's sleep issues, 78 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 2: sometimes fatigue. Sometimes it's like frozen shoulders, sometimes it's bloating 79 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 2: and waking. All of these things are happening to you. 80 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: And you're still getting your periods and they could be 81 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 2: irregular or not, but this is happening for like a 82 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 2: ten year period, and then the day that you have 83 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 2: gone through twelve cycles twelve months without your period, that 84 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: day is considered menopause. 85 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 3: So menopause is literally like a. 86 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: Day and all that work for one day, I know, 87 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: so it's called it's like okay, and there's no test 88 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: for it. 89 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 2: It's just like, okay, you've had twelve missed periods and 90 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: now that means your ovaries are done, and so you're 91 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 2: in menopause. And then everything after that is post menopause. 92 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: And so it's really confusing because what we talk about 93 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: on social media are like with each other, is like 94 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 2: this whole like we talk about menopause, is this like 95 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 2: very gray area. So it's good to know the terminology 96 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: so we can understand. So that's why my book is 97 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: about perimenopause, menopause, and post menopause, because it's about that 98 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 2: whole period between your thirties all the way into your 99 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 2: sixties and beyond. 100 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 1: Crazy that those those years were just kind of left 101 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: off of the insction packet. 102 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 2: So totally, that's exactly they were left off the instruction packet. 103 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 2: And that's how I actually say that the world needs 104 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 2: this book because we never got a book, like, we 105 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 2: never had a health class, you know, one of those 106 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 2: embarrassing health classes for puberty. We didn't get one for 107 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: perimenopause and menopause. 108 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: No, we didn't. I just heard though that I correct 109 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong, But I heard that there is 110 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: a blood test coming out soon that can determine whether 111 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: you're in perimenopause. 112 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: There's a few things coming out tell that thing. Yet. 113 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,839 Speaker 2: There is a marker that they've seen in studies that 114 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: almost all perimenopausal women have as they go through the transition, 115 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: but it's not validated yet. As you may know, Jenny, 116 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: and most people don't know this, there's absolutely no research 117 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: or very little research as compared to the research we 118 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 2: have on everything else, on perimenopause. In fact, it's the 119 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: most under research topic in all of medicine, insane, because. 120 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: It comes with so many symptoms. 121 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 2: So many symptoms, and so many women, every single woman 122 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,679 Speaker 2: through it. So it's like, why do we have zero 123 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: data on it? 124 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 3: And so all of this. 125 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: Part of the reason why I think doctors were really 126 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 2: uninformed about it is because they just didn't learn. 127 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 3: It was like skipped. 128 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 2: It was like you learned a little bit about puberty, 129 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 2: you learned a little bit about pregnancy, and then you 130 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 2: just skipped to like old age. You know what, happens, 131 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: and then there's no like in between, so that I 132 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: think is a shame. And so there's no test right 133 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: now currently today that's validated that you could go to 134 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: your doctor and get a test. So that's why it's 135 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: so confusing, because you'll go to the doctor and you'll say, 136 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 2: I feel all these things, I'm not myself, feeling tired, 137 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: I don't know my guts off, and then they checked 138 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: your blood and they're like, no, maybe vian D is 139 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 2: a little low, you know, cholesterols like and then and 140 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: then they just send you home. And so yeah, that's 141 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 2: why I think there's such a gaping hole and the 142 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: care that we give to patients. 143 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: M hm. It's so true because I remember just being pery, 144 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: not knowing I was in pery for what felt like forever, 145 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: and just suffering in silence and sucking it up and 146 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: moving on with the day. 147 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, that's exactly. It was what everybody does. 148 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't until I got my first hot flash 149 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: that I was like, ding, yes, I must this must 150 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: be happening now, But it was happening long before that. 151 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: Like the build up to the ramp up to the 152 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: hot flashes was like long. 153 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: And the thing is most women are having kids later 154 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 2: and starting their families later. So a lot of women 155 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: come to me and they're like, I don't know what's postpartum, 156 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: what's the start of perimenopause? And it's so confusing because 157 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 2: everything is like your hormones are just off and you 158 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: don't know why. So that's why I do a lot 159 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 2: of education around this time, because even though, yes, it's 160 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 2: frustrating that we don't have a test, but I tell 161 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: women but like, no matter what, whether you're cycling and 162 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,959 Speaker 2: just having like abnormal cycles because you're stressed, or whether 163 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: you're in perimenopause, like eating better, learning how to eat 164 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 2: for your body, boosting your gut health, doing the right extract, 165 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: it's all going to help no matter what. And so 166 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 2: even though it's frustrating we don't know exactly which phase 167 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,599 Speaker 2: we're in, it will get better. 168 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: If you do these things. 169 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: It's sort of a holistic approach. I love that. I 170 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: also love when I was reading your book that you 171 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: clearly love checklists. Yes, I'm obsessed with those two. Yes, 172 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: so you suggest that we track our symptoms, and bless 173 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: your heart, you give us a good checklist in the 174 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: book yes, So I think that that is very very helpful. 175 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: Tell us why this is important, and what do you 176 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: do with it once you have monitored it for a while, 177 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: Like how long should we be monitoring it? 178 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: This is such a great question. 179 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 2: So a lot of people the reason why we want 180 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: to monitor is that not only do we want this 181 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 2: for ourselves, but we could also take it to our 182 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: doctor and say, hey, it's not just fatigue, it's not 183 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 2: just waking, it's not just hot flash, it's all of 184 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: these things, so that they can know the full picture 185 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 2: without talking to you. Sometimes there's like ten minutes to 186 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: talk and they can easily see this. And it's also 187 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 2: for you to kind of understand what's happening to your body, 188 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 2: because a lot of women will do that checklist and 189 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 2: they'll say, oh, wow, I didn't realize all these things 190 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: were connected, and that it's connected to my hormones and 191 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: so a couple of cycles. So I would say one 192 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: to three months, you should monitor your symptoms and then 193 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: write them down because sometimes so the way perimenopause works 194 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: is that it's like the end. 195 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 3: Of a toothpaste tube. 196 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: So some months you get a full squeeze from the 197 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 2: ovaries and you feel good, like right like you're like, 198 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: oh this is I'm back to my normal stuff. 199 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: And then the next month you. 200 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 2: Get a splatter and you feel like crap. And then 201 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: the third month you might get nothing. You know that 202 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: pop when you're trying to like so it's really that's 203 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: exactly what's happening. You're over eas you're really getting to 204 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 2: that end, and so it can be tumultuous. 205 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 3: You might have to. 206 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 2: Monitor for three months to really. 207 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 3: Know what's happening. 208 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: Okay, that's great. That's a great tip for us to 209 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: really keep track of everything. We cannot stop the clock, 210 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: but we can most definitely and I'm quoting from your book, 211 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: we cannot stop the clock, but we can most definitely 212 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: make choices today that will make aging suck less. I 213 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: added that part. 214 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like, I remember that. 215 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: We can create better Tomorrow's not only can we stop 216 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: aging poorly, but we can make choices that will help 217 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: us discover new talents and gifts and make these years 218 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: our absolute best. I love all of that. 219 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: And you know the thing is that happened to me 220 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 2: as I started to clean up my diet, as I 221 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 2: started to spend more time outside, which I was allowing 222 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 2: myself to do that because we get this message from 223 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 2: hustle culture, like if you're you know, you're a you know, 224 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: a mom, a woman who wants to make it in 225 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 2: this world, you better be working hard, you know, not sleeping, 226 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 2: not you know, going to these high intensity classes and 227 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 2: all this stuff. And I was really going the other, 228 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: uh direction. I was feeling like out of my body. 229 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 2: So I feel like I was always in my to 230 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: do list in my head, no matter what I was doing, 231 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: rushing from thing to thing, and I was stuck. I 232 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: was stuck in my job, I was stuck in my life. 233 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: I was stuck in my bo of relationships and all 234 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: of these places. And so it wasn't until I started 235 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: to really do this work both mind and body, that 236 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: I started to notice things like, oh wait, that person 237 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: in my life is like kind of toxic, and you know, oh, 238 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: this work that I'm doing is not what I really 239 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: want to be doing. There's this other thing that I 240 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 2: want to pursue. And all of this clarity comes from 241 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 2: like taking care of your internal self, Like you start 242 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: to notice things, and so that's what I want. That's 243 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: like the whole point of this book, because I see 244 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: women thriving all the time. They're forty to fifty six 245 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 2: seats and beyond. And the way they thrive is they 246 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 2: kind of take this time, this tumultuous time, really kind 247 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 2: of get a handle on it. And often it's the 248 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 2: best years. It's the years you're doing your best work, 249 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: hanging out with the right people, meeting them, doing the 250 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 2: right things, moving to the right place. So I think 251 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 2: I see it all the time. So that's why I 252 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: share that. 253 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: That's why I mean, just these years for a woman 254 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: are the most incredible, you know, from experience, Like, yeah, 255 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: I didn't think it would only get better, honestly, but 256 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: and they say that, and I'm like, oh, okay, sure, yeah, yeah, 257 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: I believe it now I'm living it, so yeah, and 258 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: can be. 259 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 2: In the best shape of your life. You can have 260 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: the best relationships, you can have the best job, Like 261 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 2: all in the time where people say that you're supposed 262 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: to be like, you know, crumbling. 263 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: Play right, And we don't have to just suffer in 264 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: silence anymore, because there are treatments and medications that will 265 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,719 Speaker 1: definitely help us, yes, so that we can do all 266 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: of this sort of synergistically and move into this amazing 267 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: new chapter like armed and Ready, Yes, Armed and Ready. 268 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: My biggest takeaway from your book, well, one of them 269 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: was that nutrition matters. You believe that better nutrition is 270 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: the framework not only for a better body, but also 271 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: for a better brain and a longer life. Yes, yes, yes. 272 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 2: I mean the forefathers of medicine said that, like, if 273 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: you have food is your true medicine. And I think 274 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 2: we've forgotten that in the medical world, especially for my world, 275 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: the physician world, And so I wanted to bring it 276 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: back because nobody is going to tell you there's no 277 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: like you know, company lobby for fruits and vegetables and 278 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: fiber and and so I wanted to kind of bring 279 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: that back and say this actually can change your life 280 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: just as much, if not more than the medications that 281 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: we prescribe people. You know. 282 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: One of the weird things that I've found that like, 283 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: as I've gone through these stages in different symptoms and 284 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, all the feeling not great moments, I realized, like, 285 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: sometimes my husband will make me dinner and he does 286 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: never bring me anything green. I don't understand, Like, can 287 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: you just throw a handful of spinach on that please? 288 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: That's hilarious. Yeah, I think we didn't learn it right. 289 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: Like I just put up a post yesterday which I 290 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: thought was like I was talking to a patient and 291 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 2: she told me that before she met me, she thought 292 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: that a salad, like a garden salad, was like good 293 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 2: fiber and she was shocked when I said that that's 294 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 2: actually a very low in fiber like iceberg, lettuce, and 295 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 2: like you know all that. And it's just because we 296 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: don't get educated, Like nobody ever taught us what's healthy, 297 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: what's not, what has fiber, what has protein? So the 298 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: poor guy probably never just it doesn't even come to 299 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: him to like. 300 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: No, they're like burrito done. 301 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly more than that. 302 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, So it's a hot topic that I have 303 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: honestly been failing short on my attempts to get a 304 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: handle on it. The gut micro biome. Yes, please tell 305 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 1: us just what we need to know. What is gut health? Really? 306 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: Okay? 307 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: Think about it, like there is an Amazon jungle living 308 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: inside of you, and there's entire ecosystem. In fact, there's 309 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 2: trillions of bacteria. So there's as many bacteria, if not more, 310 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 2: than ourselves. So it's literally like you know, when we 311 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: learned about the Amazon jungle, like these incredible species and 312 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: they're intertwined and they help each other and the. 313 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: Problem one living organism. 314 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 2: Yes, and they communicate with the brain, So they communicate 315 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 2: just as with the brain. It's insane. They communicate just 316 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: as much with the brain as our own body does. 317 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: In fact more so, like we can't live without them, 318 00:17:09,320 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: we actually would die. So this is a very essential 319 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 2: part of our body. But no one, absolutely no one 320 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 2: is talking about how to help that Amazon jungle thrive. 321 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: And so what happened is just by chance, because we're 322 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: not even paying attention to it, we started to eat 323 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 2: foods and do things that are killing that jungle. We're 324 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 2: eating ultra processed foods, We're not eating enough fiber. We're 325 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 2: drinking alcohol, a lot of alcohol. We're also using a 326 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 2: lot of antibiotics, sometimes for. 327 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 3: Not great reasons. 328 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: We're using all these cleansers, like you know, antibacterial cleaners 329 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: because of COVID and all these things. And what we 330 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: ended up doing is killing, in fact, fifty percent of 331 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: the gut bacteria. 332 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: Oh that most people have. I know, it's really something 333 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: to think of it as a jungle. I mean, yes, 334 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: but life in your body, it's all happening the same 335 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: our jungles are dying inside us and outside of us. 336 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 3: This is not good, I know, not good. 337 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 2: And the jungle inside of us, unfortunately, is extremely extremely 338 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 2: important for our hormone health, for our brain health, and 339 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 2: for our immune health. So those three things that we 340 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: care so much about. You know, most of us care 341 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 2: a lot about how our hormones are functioning, thyroid, cortisol, estrogen, progesterone, testosterone. 342 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: And we care a lot about how our brain is doing, 343 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: you know, happiness, anxiety, sleep, all that stuff. And that 344 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:44,239 Speaker 2: is what the gut bacteria do. They are helping with 345 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 2: the things that we are struggling with most. And so 346 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 2: that's why I think that I picked I wanted to 347 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 2: talk so much more about it because I think it's 348 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: like once you know, like once you know, you're just like, wow, 349 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 2: why was I not ever. 350 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 3: Told about this? 351 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: Because once you know, then you'll do little things, even 352 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 2: small steps in your day, not talking about large shifts, 353 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 2: and talking about small steps in your day to actually 354 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 2: nurture that, to feed the bacteria because they need food, 355 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 2: and to not kill them if they don't need to 356 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: be killed, and to the things that they need to thrive, 357 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: which are also things that are just great for. 358 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 3: Us in general. So I think gut health. 359 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: The great thing about gut health is like it's gut 360 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: brain health. Those things that are good for our brain 361 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 2: are good for a gut. 362 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 3: Yes. 363 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: Yes, you talk about the brain gut connection and how 364 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: it's so tightly linked that the gut is sometimes called 365 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: our second brain. 366 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: Yes, So when we are forming, we are our gut 367 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: and our brain are connected, Okay, and then they move 368 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 2: to opposite ends and you have the brain and the gut, 369 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 2: but they're always still connected. And when you understand this 370 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: concept of the Amazon jungle, they are like in constant 371 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 2: communication with each other to the point where you cannot 372 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 2: have happiness or health without a good, strong gut microbiome. 373 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 3: Right, So it's like you. 374 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 2: Can even there's actually studies which is so crazy that 375 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: if you just take someone's gut bacteria from one person 376 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: to another, you can actually change their entire brain. So 377 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: like a patient who's schizophrenic or has schizophrenia can get 378 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: bacteria from someone who doesn't have schizophrenia. 379 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 3: And they won't have it anymore. 380 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 2: And the patient who gets the bacteria from someone who 381 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 2: has schizophrenia will show signs of schizophrenia. 382 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 383 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: So you're saying we shouldn't be sharing our gut bacteria. 384 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, so you actually do share, got back to 385 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 2: it all the time, And so you're a product of 386 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 2: the people you spend the most time with. So if 387 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: you have someone toxic in your life, for example, and 388 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 2: you are like, what do I do to improve my life? 389 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 2: Is spend less time around them? Because when you share food, 390 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 2: but not even just sharing food, when you're sharing the 391 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 2: same space as someone who is I don't know, whatever 392 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 2: you deem is unhealthy or toxic or you are sharing 393 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: bacteria with them. 394 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: And that's why they have never thought of that before. 395 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, another reason why they're like edit your friend's circle 396 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 2: and your partners and you're you know, all the things 397 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: because you really do want your partner. 398 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 1: I can hear this phone call, the breakup call with somebody. Look, 399 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: our gut bacteria just isn't aligning, and I feel it's 400 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: better for my gut bacteria. 401 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 3: That's right for me, that's right. 402 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 2: I mean, they have just as much say as our 403 00:21:56,680 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 2: own body, so they should be participating in that comfort. 404 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,719 Speaker 2: And so I think, you know that just tells you 405 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: how important it is to also eat healthy because the 406 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: other thing besides hanging out with people who are really 407 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: great and healthy and athletic and nice, what you can 408 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 2: also do is grow your own garden, you know, your 409 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: own jungle, by feeding it the food that it needs 410 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: so that it can thrive. So for people who are like, 411 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: oh my god, I am stuck in this room with 412 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 2: this person who sits. 413 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 3: Next to me and really toxic, what do I do? 414 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: You can also grow your own healthy gut bacteria by 415 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 2: eating really good food, by getting enough sunlight, by getting 416 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,199 Speaker 2: enough movement in your body, by avoiding the things that 417 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 2: kill the gut back to your So you can like 418 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: cultivate your own garden also. 419 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: And try not to share it with Yes, yeah. 420 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 3: I mean that's the finally. 421 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but that was the final 422 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 2: straw for me as I got older to be like, 423 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: you know what that toxic person that was in my 424 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 2: life since I was indergarten, or like, you know, I 425 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,679 Speaker 2: don't need to even though we've been together for you know, 426 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: forty plus years, I don't need to like put that 427 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 2: person in my life, Like that person's just toxic. 428 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 3: And so it really did teach me that who. 429 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 2: You surround yourself with should be a choice and not 430 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 2: just by default. 431 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: Right, and let go of the guilt when you have 432 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: to break up with somebody, Just let that go, you say. Okay, 433 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: in the book I read that you say that post menopause, 434 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: which is where I'm at, it's important to understand that 435 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: now you are at a higher risk for conditions like osteoporosis, 436 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: heart disease, urinary tract infections. Okay. When I read that 437 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: in your book, I panicked inside because I've never really 438 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: thought of it that way. But it really does make sense. 439 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: As we get older, we're more susceptible to these things. 440 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: And it's all got to with that amazon for us. 441 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 2: Yes, and you know, the estrogen that your body used 442 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: to produce at the levels is protective for a lot 443 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 2: of things, and so as your estrogen goes down, your 444 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 2: like risk of heart disease kind of goes up, and 445 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: osterporosis and some of these things. Some of these things 446 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 2: are reversible from using hormone replacement therapy, and some of 447 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 2: them are yet not associated with hormone therapy, meaning like 448 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: we still don't know for sure if hormone therapy helps 449 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: at all with certain conditions that are associated with low estrogen. 450 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 3: So it's so it's not just about. 451 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 2: Taking your hormones and you're done, like close the book. 452 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: It's about actually understanding that it's a multifactorial thing. 453 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 3: So you have to still. 454 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 2: Change how you eat, move differently, make sure that you're 455 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 2: staying really strong and active and building those bones and 456 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 2: muscles because you don't have as much estrogen helping you out. 457 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 1: I've heard women and I've also experienced this that your 458 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: body odors change. Yeah, as you go through this time. 459 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: What is the science behind that and what can we do? 460 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, so our bodies hormone levels change, and your hormone 461 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: levels affect so many things. How much you sweat, what 462 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: the sweat smells like, what you know, even people will 463 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: say their breath is changing or like the way they 464 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 2: you know, a lot of things change about your body 465 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 2: as you're moving through this time. 466 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 3: So it is very important. Number one. 467 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 2: So if we're talking about the root causes, Number one, 468 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 2: it's really important to keep that gut bacteria happy and 469 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: active and healthy because that Amazon jungle will absolutely help 470 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: you in regulating your hormone and also the feedback that 471 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: you get to your brain about how how much you're 472 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 2: sweating how much older. So, for example, we have all 473 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 2: these gut bacteria that are dedicated to deciding how much 474 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 2: estrogen to take out of your body through stool and 475 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 2: how much to put back in the circulation. And so 476 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 2: if you're someone who's in pairy, one of the best 477 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: things you can do as your estrogen levels are like 478 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 2: but like this is changing your gut and so the 479 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 2: gut can work really hard to get that estrogen back 480 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 2: in check. 481 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 3: If you're post. 482 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 2: Menopause and you're trying to optimize your health the communication 483 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: between your immune system, your hormones, and your brain so 484 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: that you don't get all these diseases, you need to 485 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 2: care about that gut. So one of the biggest things 486 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 2: they found from like fermented foods for example, So foods 487 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: that have bacteria in them are called fermented foods or 488 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: probiotic foods like yogurt, sour about kimchi. What they found 489 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: is not only does it help your gut, you know, 490 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: feel less gassy and like bloated, whatever, it actually lowers 491 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: the inflammation in your body. 492 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 3: And so inflammation is the one that's related. 493 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 2: To cancer, to heart disease, to dementia, to obesity, to 494 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 2: all of the things that we consider like diseases of aging, 495 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: it's all inflammation based. So if you're eating something that's 496 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 2: the biggest way to lower. 497 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 3: Inflammation, we should be eating it. 498 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 2: So that's why for postmenopause, one of the biggest things 499 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 2: I would tell you is like, hey, you should start 500 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 2: eating things that are really growing that gut bacteria because 501 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 2: as Jura best. 502 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: I have a stoppy for a second, because I'm just 503 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: thinking this whole time, what if I don't like sour 504 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: kraud kichi, Like, what's gonna happen to know? 505 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: No, you can do yogurt, you can do now, there's 506 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 2: probiotic cottag cheese. You know, there's a few brands like 507 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,960 Speaker 2: Nancy's and Good Culture that make the probiotic cut. 508 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:01,360 Speaker 3: There's even like. 509 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 2: Coconut water a keyfer so like if you're non dairy 510 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: and you're like, I don't like any of those vegetables 511 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: that are fermented, there is coconut water that has been 512 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: probiotics in it, and so there's so many options now. 513 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 2: So it turns out, Jenny, that every single culture in 514 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 2: the entire world had fermented foods as a part of it. 515 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: So there's like thousands of fermented foods that we don't 516 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 2: really even eat on a regular basis, that are from 517 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 2: different cultures, because back before refrigerators and microwaves and modern processing, 518 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: you had to ferment. 519 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 3: Something to keep it. So if you didn't ferment. 520 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: It, it would go bad, like tickling. 521 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, like pickling, And so fermenting was a process that 522 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 2: was out of necessity and it just so happened. 523 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 3: That it was really good for us. And now that. 524 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: We don't need to do that, I'm like, wait a second, 525 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 2: we need to bring this back, because the studies show 526 00:28:56,360 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: over and over again the cultures that still do fermentation 527 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: and the people that still eat fermented foods, they have 528 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: markedly better levels of inflammation, hormones and brain health. And 529 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 2: so it's just something that needs to change in our culture. 530 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: No brainer. Yeah, Okay, we've barely even tapped the depth 531 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: of all the great information in your book. Everyone, you 532 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: have to read Hormone Havoc. It's incredible. It's available now 533 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: wherever you buy your books. So just do yourself a favor, 534 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: get the book and read it. But before I let 535 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: you go, doctor Amyshall, what was your last I choose 536 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: me moment? 537 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 2: Oh? Getting my sun light this morning. So one thing 538 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 2: I talk a lot about in the book is that 539 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,440 Speaker 2: we're not living with our circadian rhythms. So we have 540 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: a rhythm in our body where we need light in 541 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 2: the day and we need darkness at night, and it 542 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: helps our body retune itself. I chose myself and I said, 543 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to take two minutes and I'm going to 544 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: get my sunlight, and I'm going to not bring my phone, 545 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: and I'm just going. 546 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: To be yes. Yeah, for me, sunlight became a kind 547 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: of a bad thing just because of the skin damage. 548 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: But I've heard recently several doctors say that it's so 549 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: important to sit out in the sun for five minutes 550 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: if you can in the morning. 551 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 2: Like the morning, and you could sit like in a 552 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 2: shaded area as long as your eyes it's just your eyes. 553 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: That get in the sun. 554 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 3: You could look through a window and open it. 555 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 2: It's so you could be shielded skin wise. 556 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: Okay, get that light people, you heard it here. Okay, 557 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: this has been a great conversation. Thank you so much 558 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: for joining us. We are going to do a little 559 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: bonus episode for everybody where we're going to get into 560 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: the nitty gritties. So thank you. Doctor Dan, thanks for 561 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: having me. Oh and you guys, I'm very excited to 562 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: share that my book I Choose Me Chasing Joy, finding Purpose, 563 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: and embracing reinvention is coming April fourteenth. Do you know 564 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: what it would mean the world to me if you 565 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: would pre order a copy or pre order the audiobook 566 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: wherever you get your books. 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