Speaker 1: This he is Talking Cowboys, streaming live on Dallas Cowboys
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Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola, Brian Broadness, Taylor Stern and Rob Phillips welcome
Speaker 1: everybody into the st of UVC Mortgage Studio. It is
Speaker 1: victory Monday here at the start as the Cowboys went
Speaker 1: up to New York and beat the Giants to sweep
Speaker 1: them two oh on the season. But most importantly, it
Speaker 1: is our co host, Mickey Spagnola's birthday, and we're so
Speaker 1: honored yet Happy birthday, Mick. Thank you truly glad to
Speaker 1: have one. Truly, though I don't think you'd spend I
Speaker 1: think you'd probably spend your birthday at work, even if
Speaker 1: you didn't have to. I mean, that's a good sign.
Speaker 1: That's a good sign saying that you you love what
Speaker 1: you have. You ever had your birthday off? I get
Speaker 1: my birthday off every year, but that's the exception. It's
Speaker 1: only holiday we celebrate. We were just trying to ask
Speaker 1: him what he was going to do tonight, you know,
Speaker 1: and he wouldn't listen to us. He was just watching
Speaker 1: the top, watching that guy trying to run into the fans. Seahawks, Jags,
Speaker 1: your focused, make your dead, go out and get blasted
Speaker 1: Cowboys hours. Great, that's a great drop after every loss,
Speaker 1: I'm playing that drop. Yeah, I'll go it out, get
Speaker 1: blasted there in case you've missed it. Yeah, that's you can.
Speaker 1: You can cheers to the Cowboys playoffs. Hope, whether it's
Speaker 1: four percent or what it really is, it's still alive
Speaker 1: because they did beat the Giants thirty ten and impressive fashion.
Speaker 1: A lot of guys stepped up to the plate. Sean Lee.
Speaker 1: Of course what we expected. Dak Prescott had a career
Speaker 1: day and Rod Smith had a breakout day. So I'll
Speaker 1: just start around the room, guys, and you tell me
Speaker 1: one player that you were most impressed with. Mickey, I'll
Speaker 1: start with you, Sean Lee. Yeah, he tried to make
Speaker 1: every tackle in the game. I told him that would
Speaker 1: be waiting to do the postgame interview. The broadband called it.
Speaker 1: I think you called for like twenty something tackles, right, Actually,
Speaker 1: I thought he would. I thought he would get I
Speaker 1: think between thirty. I think said twenty five. I said
Speaker 1: twenty five almost. Yeah. I just had a feeling though
Speaker 1: watching the Giants play that they weren't going to be
Speaker 1: able to block him. I wonder what happens when the
Speaker 1: coaches look at the tape. Will he get about three
Speaker 1: or four more tackles? No, it's it's it's eighteen. It's eighteen. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's pretty Actually, I'll tell you what they had. Giants
Speaker 1: have a real problem blocking second level linebackers, of course,
Speaker 1: and so and and Anthony Hitchins had fourteen as well.
Speaker 1: That just tells you really the problems. Jeff Heath had ten. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it goes, it goes beyond that. For the Giants, they
Speaker 1: just they there, there's a bad offensive line, and you know,
Speaker 1: we talked about that all week. That's how you were
Speaker 1: going to have to take advantage of it. And they
Speaker 1: did absolutely. Okay, So Shaun Lee was your guy. Shaun
Speaker 1: Lee's my guy. I think I picked him for Rankum.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Well you did? I thought you? No?
Speaker 1: Did I I took right down. Yeah, they're somewhere. They're somewhere, Rob,
Speaker 1: who's your who's your player that really stood out to
Speaker 1: you as an impressive guy in yesterday's win? A little
Speaker 1: bit under the radar, I'll say Lyle Collins for the
Speaker 1: job he did in past protection two weeks in a row.
Speaker 1: He's not one hundred percent. I don't think he's close
Speaker 1: to one hundred percent right now. And the job he
Speaker 1: did against Ryan Kerrigan against Washington and you know, started
Speaker 1: the game off against Olivia Vernon, they did move him around.
Speaker 1: Ye saw some jpp um and you know, pass protection
Speaker 1: was really good in this game for Dak. So he's
Speaker 1: he's fighting through some stuff right now. I know a
Speaker 1: lot of guys are, but we're seeing him grow at
Speaker 1: that right tackle spot at less than one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Did you see that contraption JPP plays with on his
Speaker 1: right hand, No, I didn't club. It's like a club.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's been doing that all year now,
Speaker 1: he hadn't been doing it all year. He's got he's
Speaker 1: got it. He went back to it. That's when he
Speaker 1: first interesting first because I didn't remember that. I remember
Speaker 1: he had a finger injury during the week. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what they that's what they did in problems with that hand. Again,
Speaker 1: he can't he can't grab it's it's it's a club.
Speaker 1: It's all wrapped up. Yeah, there was some question about
Speaker 1: whether he's gonna play because of that. Yeah, so exactly,
Speaker 1: and Dak Prescott did not wear anything. He did not
Speaker 1: he had. He had the glove on the on the
Speaker 1: off left hand, left hand, switched gloves at half too,
Speaker 1: went from a white glove to a blue glove. Didn't
Speaker 1: notice why he was at for promotional stuff. I have
Speaker 1: no idea, really, he said it was a style thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what that makes sense, because it's your
Speaker 1: bottom hand when you take the snap. Maybe it gives
Speaker 1: you better grip on it. Yeah, maybe he wanted Well,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though, he needed the grip because
Speaker 1: when he avoided that sack from Olivier Vernon. Yes, he
Speaker 1: switched hands with the ball and he went right hand,
Speaker 1: left hand and got it back to his right hand
Speaker 1: to push it outside there. So far did you see
Speaker 1: him going trying to go old school on that one play?
Speaker 1: Old school? What way he went out? Further start the series,
Speaker 1: he forgot his helmet. Yeah, he was wearing his stocking
Speaker 1: cap and he was almost all they saw. I saw
Speaker 1: him run to was almost all the way there and
Speaker 1: he turned around and goes, oh, so I said something
Speaker 1: to him afterwards He goes, yeah, he goes, I had
Speaker 1: the stocking cap on, and he goes I kept forgetting
Speaker 1: my helmet. I had something on my head. Yeah, nice
Speaker 1: and warm. I said, boy, you're tough on the heaters.
Speaker 1: Going way back to those New York Football Giants, Terrence,
Speaker 1: he changed his shoes, right, because remember in pregame when
Speaker 1: we were all standing there and usuring two different shoes different, Yeah,
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. Yeah, yeah, well who was
Speaker 1: your guy? Well, I'll say after I thought already, no,
Speaker 1: it's fine, I'll pick Prescott because I think the Giants
Speaker 1: plan was to make him throw from the pocket. Didn't
Speaker 1: get the ball on the edge very much, and so
Speaker 1: their plan was to keep him in the middle. He
Speaker 1: made some some tough throws, you know, and I think,
Speaker 1: like Rob says, protection overall was pretty good. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they were committed to making him throw the ball from
Speaker 1: the middle of the pocket, and that's what he was
Speaker 1: able to do. I thought he moved the guys around
Speaker 1: where he needed to move guys around. You know, if
Speaker 1: you if you watch the pass to Rod Smith, he
Speaker 1: moves rod Smith over to put him in the slot.
Speaker 1: He sees what's happening in the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I just feel like though that overall, you know,
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. There's been some times where we've been critical
Speaker 1: of him, but this time around, I thought he did
Speaker 1: a pretty dark nice job. Yeah, you know what, and
Speaker 1: to go on on that it was more than the
Speaker 1: three hundred and thirty two yards passed, right. I think
Speaker 1: it was what Brian said. He got guys where they
Speaker 1: needed to be and he recognized the blitzes. But finally
Speaker 1: he got some help. The receivers started recognizing it right
Speaker 1: and started cutting off their routes because early in the
Speaker 1: game it looked like they're blitzing and everybody's got their
Speaker 1: backs towards them. It's like, come on right. Two of
Speaker 1: the they had three plays over fifty yards, Yeah, passing,
Speaker 1: and two of them I think we're just straight up
Speaker 1: blitz is word, right, You got one guy to beat.
Speaker 1: If you're the receiver, he makes the play, he's got
Speaker 1: nothing mcgreen, Dez is catch for a touchdown and Rod's
Speaker 1: not Rods Beasley's and guys made the play. It was
Speaker 1: a good route and they were off to the races. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was hottest job by both That's how you stop
Speaker 1: a team from blitzing. Well, it was a great blitz
Speaker 1: pickup by Rod smithy guy I'm sorry, go ahead, I
Speaker 1: got Rod. You guys all said great players, and you know,
Speaker 1: Brian I used Dak as the player of the game
Speaker 1: for our social media, but it was really easy to
Speaker 1: do that, and it was almost hard, actually to choose
Speaker 1: between him and Rod because Rod had such a great game. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, last week we were talking about, Okay, let's
Speaker 1: keep this running game consistent. You know, a lot of
Speaker 1: times we've said, oh, they've got something there, but it
Speaker 1: hasn't been consistent enough. Rod Smith took the pressure off
Speaker 1: of those receivers, I thought, you know, by saying, okay,
Speaker 1: I realized they're doubling Cole and Dez. Right, let me
Speaker 1: just have some breakaway plays. I mean eighty one yards
Speaker 1: on that one. Yeah, it was. It was a heck
Speaker 1: of a play to again Dac to move him outside
Speaker 1: and then you're absolutely right town the third down play,
Speaker 1: they were playing the slant to the backside on Bryant
Speaker 1: and on the front side they were not going to
Speaker 1: let Beasley run the pivot route to get the first down,
Speaker 1: and Dak saw exactly what was going on. No safety
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, you know, take a chance,
Speaker 1: and it's a great job by by Smith to beat
Speaker 1: his man off the line of scrimmage and then to
Speaker 1: get into the route and Dac to see it all
Speaker 1: the way again in the middle of the pocket throw.
Speaker 1: That's what he had Da said. That's that's not a
Speaker 1: play they typically he doesn't, that's not usually his read.
Speaker 1: And Rod actually said, I didn't think the ball was
Speaker 1: coming to me. No, but when you've got that kind
Speaker 1: of look, you gotta go to it. And huge playing
Speaker 1: the game, Rod was. He's really he's really got the
Speaker 1: respect of his teammates. They really respect the fact that
Speaker 1: he's earned his spot, you know, as a special teams
Speaker 1: guy and now doing whatever he's asked to do. You
Speaker 1: mentioned the Blitz pick up that that was huge for
Speaker 1: a two hundred twenty pound back. He's a pretty good
Speaker 1: receiver out of the back for really nifty run too,
Speaker 1: if you look at his touchdown run on the toss suite.
Speaker 1: Because they got everything, they got everything. Jeff Swain sealed
Speaker 1: everything inside him and Noah Brown and they got everybody
Speaker 1: the outside. Well, he had to make one more cut
Speaker 1: to get up to int into the lane, and he
Speaker 1: was able to do that. He could have kept drifting
Speaker 1: and then probably got tackled, but patient patient patient boom
Speaker 1: made the slant or made the plant and then went
Speaker 1: right up in the in the lane for the touchdown.
Speaker 1: Thought he was running more freely in this game. That
Speaker 1: the first carry he had was weird because it was
Speaker 1: to the left and he was running like a fullback.
Speaker 1: He had the ball, both hands in the ball. What
Speaker 1: are they doing right? And then they finally started loosing
Speaker 1: up and running like we had been talking about all year,
Speaker 1: kind of running angry, kind of kind of was thinking
Speaker 1: that was going to be their answer during the six
Speaker 1: game suspension. Remember, I was looking for an angry back,
Speaker 1: and I thought he played angry yesterday. I thought he
Speaker 1: made some really good cuts. Mickey's talking about the early run,
Speaker 1: but once he got freed up a little bit, I
Speaker 1: felt like that that's kind of what we see with
Speaker 1: Rod Smith. You know that he could be that kind
Speaker 1: of guy going forward. And you know, and I know
Speaker 1: a lot of people I don't know about your Twitter timelines,
Speaker 1: a lot of people are asking me if you know
Speaker 1: if he was going to would be the guy to
Speaker 1: start this week over Alfred Morris. You know, after what
Speaker 1: you saw, I think they compliment each other pretty well. Yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think you need to change. And
Speaker 1: he's alert that he caught that tip pass right in
Speaker 1: the middle. You know, I had the wherewithal to hang
Speaker 1: in there and catch it and turn and go get
Speaker 1: it first down. Did you guys listen to Coach Garrett
Speaker 1: this morning a little bit. Yeah, he's on the fan
Speaker 1: and he was talking about Rod Smith and they said,
Speaker 1: you know, where did this guy come from? I mean
Speaker 1: he talked about what you're saying, Rob, you know about Okay,
Speaker 1: we had him on the practice squad and then we
Speaker 1: brought him in and we tried to do some stuff
Speaker 1: with fullback and they just kind of he was kind
Speaker 1: of that guy that you would see kind of yo
Speaker 1: yo on the transaction emails, right, and truly, you know,
Speaker 1: it's exciting to see all of his success he's had
Speaker 1: in the past few games because especially of course, most
Speaker 1: people know that his brother is Jalen Smith, and he's
Speaker 1: his young brother. What sometimes I forget I think that
Speaker 1: Jalen might be older. You know, they kind of look
Speaker 1: so close in age. But it's exciting to see, I
Speaker 1: think for Jalen. He was saying yesterday on the bus
Speaker 1: that he's excited to see him get his shine, you know,
Speaker 1: because for so long, I bet you, out of those
Speaker 1: two brothers, it's mostly been about Jalen Smith. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I finally see Rod Smith have some of that is
Speaker 1: pretty excited. Obviously both of them went to extremely great
Speaker 1: college football programs. But well, what you have to do
Speaker 1: as a front office you have to be able to
Speaker 1: have a vision for the player. Yeah, and they found
Speaker 1: something for him to do. You know, he played special teams.
Speaker 1: He was a core guy. Like you said, Tay, he
Speaker 1: was on and off practice squads. I mean again, that's
Speaker 1: one of those things where somebody could have come in
Speaker 1: the dead of night and said, hey, listen, we'll take
Speaker 1: Rod Smith off your practice squad. Well they didn't. So
Speaker 1: again evaluation, they found spots for him. They're using him.
Speaker 1: You know, you saw him catch the ball in the
Speaker 1: Green Bay game down the field. You know he made
Speaker 1: a play. You know, he just wasn't a guy you
Speaker 1: throw the ball of the flat two and then he
Speaker 1: makes a play. He makes plays down the field, and
Speaker 1: I think that's where you know, you find ways to
Speaker 1: you know, these backs are pretty talented group. Even Alfred
Speaker 1: Morris is finding ways to catch the football, you know,
Speaker 1: would be more complete. And that's what this team's trying
Speaker 1: to do. They're trying to find more those complete guys.
Speaker 1: They can do a lot of different things. And obviously
Speaker 1: Rod Smith's one of those guys. I think someone too.
Speaker 1: He's not related to him, but Keith Smith. Yeah, same thing,
Speaker 1: right like that, Yeah, bouncing back and forth and then
Speaker 1: trying to find a role. And hey, give credit to
Speaker 1: the coaching staff deciding at Rod Smith. They tried him
Speaker 1: at fullback and said, you know what, this guy's are
Speaker 1: running back, you know, and and he's he's gotten better.
Speaker 1: He's become a better running back and more complete running
Speaker 1: back than he was when I think they claimed him
Speaker 1: off of Seattle roster a couple years ago. Yes, done
Speaker 1: a nice job off the practice squad, right, I don't
Speaker 1: think he was off to Seahawks practice squad. There's a poach, yeah, Yeahhawks,
Speaker 1: right squad? Yeah, And knock on Wood. You know that
Speaker 1: Cowboys pretty much came out of that game pretty injury free.
Speaker 1: You know. There wasn't anything to extremely note of any
Speaker 1: guys that I can think of. Yeah, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think Ifford had a hip pointer Tyrone Tyron Crawford. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then there was one trying to think, yeah, there was.
Speaker 1: He came off the field one time and they were
Speaker 1: talking to him on the sidelines. I thought he was
Speaker 1: just trying to catch his breath, but I guess the
Speaker 1: hip pointer was. Yeah, that it was he heard. Nobody
Speaker 1: asked me questions afterwards that the team got through without me.
Speaker 1: When way he walked off with Jason, he pointed it out. Okay,
Speaker 1: a lot of people were asking about Sean Lee rob
Speaker 1: and I saw you answered that one. Yeah, just that
Speaker 1: was a planned deal to kind of rotate him. I
Speaker 1: think one series in the second half he was out.
Speaker 1: They put Jalen in and just coming off the injury.
Speaker 1: They wanted to keep him fresh. It wasn't anything he aggravated,
Speaker 1: so and obviously he made a huge play at the
Speaker 1: end of the game. There was one more think about that, Mick,
Speaker 1: but oh it was it was Kyle Wilber. He had
Speaker 1: a stinger. Oh okay. They brought him into the tent.
Speaker 1: That was third fourth quarter. It was kind of late,
Speaker 1: but I saw him afterwards and he was walking. It
Speaker 1: was just fine. Helps you with that. Now, somebody who
Speaker 1: wasn't injured, you know, has comeback since Thanksgiving, but had
Speaker 1: kind of a very unusual game Dan Bailey missing the
Speaker 1: field goals and an extra point. Brian, I see you
Speaker 1: immediately upset about that. No, I wasn't. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know what to say about kickers, you know, And
Speaker 1: I know I got into a discussion with folks. It
Speaker 1: wasn't a hindsight, because it's funny. I was sitting with
Speaker 1: Nate and him and I go, I wouldn't have kicked it.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have tried that field goal. And I mean
Speaker 1: I was saying it to those guys it wild position studio. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I'm fifty three. And Nate made a
Speaker 1: good point. He goes, He's like eighty percent, why wouldn't
Speaker 1: you try? And I'm like, I just wouldn't try it
Speaker 1: at this point, you know, because to me, I'm making
Speaker 1: the Giants have to drive the football, and they had
Speaker 1: it for a good first drive, but I'm kind of
Speaker 1: thinking of field position. Pen them back there, maybe get
Speaker 1: a short field, get a three and out, but make
Speaker 1: them make them show you they can. Yeah, make him
Speaker 1: show me they could drive the ball down the field again.
Speaker 1: That's where I That's where I was. I don't think
Speaker 1: the Giants could made enough place. Now, if you're playing
Speaker 1: against some an opponent that can drive the football on
Speaker 1: you and make plays by all means, you know, if
Speaker 1: you want to try fifty three, y yeah. But and
Speaker 1: somebody will say, well, Brian had hit the upright, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, you know it's fine. It's still I
Speaker 1: would have probably played a field position game at least initially.
Speaker 1: And then if you want to come back and kick
Speaker 1: the fifty yard field goal, which it looks like to
Speaker 1: me got pushed. I mean the started middle wind to
Speaker 1: the wind just took it right, so I you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think the more disturbing thing to me,
Speaker 1: guys was the missed extra Yeah. Absolutely, from yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's where That's where I would have That's all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, it was, you know, we were all the
Speaker 1: game was in hand, and you're going, well, he just
Speaker 1: missed an extra point. So that that to me, Okay,
Speaker 1: I understand the fifty three. I get the fifty, but
Speaker 1: those missed extra points. Okay. Now, what's going on with
Speaker 1: Dan Bailey. You know he's coming off the back injury,
Speaker 1: but I don't think this is a health thing. I
Speaker 1: think this is just a tough day at the office.
Speaker 1: It's a tough it's a tough place to kick. As
Speaker 1: you mentioned, the wind, yeah and stuff. But I think
Speaker 1: the old place was worse. Yeah, but there was there
Speaker 1: was When I was on the sideline before the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a breeze. You could feel it. He was
Speaker 1: like eleven miles on the on the play by play.
Speaker 1: He was kicking well to our right, and I think
Speaker 1: that's where the one went off the upright. The first
Speaker 1: one that where we're going right. The first one was right,
Speaker 1: and that's the way that was the That's where I
Speaker 1: saw him. He was kicking off that little holder thing
Speaker 1: right and he was hitting from fifty four right. It
Speaker 1: was the other direction he was having trouble, and that's
Speaker 1: where he missed the extra point right. I think that's
Speaker 1: where the fifty yard fifty one kind of blew out, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he had it right down the middle. It was
Speaker 1: going like that. It's just the ball was almost going
Speaker 1: sideways the way it came away from the But yeah, well,
Speaker 1: now I can understand. I can understand the fifty yard misses.
Speaker 1: I get those, But the the extra point one was
Speaker 1: the one that just kind of gave me because I
Speaker 1: was thinking, well, man, he he usually is just so
Speaker 1: dead down the middle, and now he's pulling the ball
Speaker 1: a little bit. I didn't I asked that because they
Speaker 1: were tweeting if it was about his groin. Steah, go ahead, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh did I say back, Yeah, he had the groin injury.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think this is health related. I
Speaker 1: think he's okay. It's it's just it's a tough day.
Speaker 1: And he didn't kick a field goal in the Washington game.
Speaker 1: Did he kicked all extra points? Right, and he didn't
Speaker 1: have an attempt. Yeah, but you tell you said that's
Speaker 1: his first extra point missive two hundred and Well it
Speaker 1: was two fifty going into the season. So however many
Speaker 1: he had this year, Yeah, so it was probably in
Speaker 1: the two seventies range. Yeah, and it might have gotten
Speaker 1: his head. You never know. Oh, he's the kind of
Speaker 1: guy that I feel like that was something he's thinking
Speaker 1: about still today. But he picked a good game to
Speaker 1: have a bad game. Yeah, they were able to overcome
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. I mean, sitting there in the
Speaker 1: first quarter, they'd only really had two drives, and you
Speaker 1: looked up and you're like that was only one quarter
Speaker 1: very army Navy game like it was without the snow,
Speaker 1: without the snow, no snow. Luckily we wore in New Jersey,
Speaker 1: but close to Buffalo. Actually looks kind of fun. It
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Speaker 1: talk about the drops that everyone was talking about with
Speaker 1: the wide receivers. I know you've watched some of the tape.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've watched all of it yet
Speaker 1: you have, so you know, and you guys, you were
Speaker 1: there and you saw these things. I mean, the first
Speaker 1: one hits. It does right in the face. Basiley misses
Speaker 1: a big one. These guys were just having a little
Speaker 1: bit of hard times. If you would just dropped a
Speaker 1: slant before the one that hit him face. Yeah, yep,
Speaker 1: that ball got on him quick. What do you guys
Speaker 1: think about that? How and they fix that? What? What
Speaker 1: did they take away from that? One of the best
Speaker 1: teams in the league last year catching the football? Really? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What were the stats on that cowboy? I mean there
Speaker 1: was less than they were. They were top five when
Speaker 1: it came to drops for the Sea. I mean, you
Speaker 1: got a guy like Beasley, it was dark with the
Speaker 1: I think the one to him, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: on tape, it looks like he ducks his head like
Speaker 1: he like he lost lost in the sun, lost in
Speaker 1: the sun, talked about oh no, yeah, yeah, they got
Speaker 1: curtains there. He said, the sun's always going to be there.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a jab at our stadium
Speaker 1: too or what. No, well, he said he's got to
Speaker 1: make the catch. It wasn't looking back, it was looking sideways.
Speaker 1: He ducked his head. You can you can see. You
Speaker 1: could see his eyes are up and then as the
Speaker 1: ball's coming, he ducks his head to think, Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't see this thing. That part the death slant is
Speaker 1: a surprising one because again I thought he was late
Speaker 1: with his hands. He's got to slow down. He's trying
Speaker 1: too hard. I think on those like the slants, he
Speaker 1: wants to go and he wants to catch big game
Speaker 1: out take off. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Well the ball,
Speaker 1: the ball he caught for the touchdown was a great pass.
Speaker 1: I mean right where it needed to be for him,
Speaker 1: right in his face. But you wrote about the the
Speaker 1: was it back shoulder the one jump ball where he yeah,
Speaker 1: it hit him kind of in his face. Maybe the
Speaker 1: ball could have been thrown a little bit. I thought her,
Speaker 1: You know what, again, this is just nitpicking if you
Speaker 1: want to nitpick. If Dak throws the ball further out,
Speaker 1: we've seen Dez how many times we've seen just running
Speaker 1: up that's an easy Dez on the move is a
Speaker 1: good thing. Des going des one off the line to
Speaker 1: get to the point of what the ball was coming
Speaker 1: back at him. So he had to go up. But
Speaker 1: hands were really wide on the play. He told me,
Speaker 1: he told me that he relaxed on it. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like he said, oh, oh I've got this, and he
Speaker 1: and and he relaxed and he said, I was so
Speaker 1: mad at myself. Right. Oh, he popped up quick off
Speaker 1: the ground like he knew exactly. And and and then
Speaker 1: on the next one touch or the touchdown the fifty
Speaker 1: yard or so, they did a sight adjustment. They stabbed
Speaker 1: Collins come sneaking up right, and Dez said, when I
Speaker 1: saw him come down, I said, we've got a touchdown here, right,
Speaker 1: He's just got a throat to me and Dak said,
Speaker 1: we just kind of did the look at each other. Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the it's open. I can run the slant because
Speaker 1: they were using the linebacker to keep the slants and
Speaker 1: the Collins was getting it right. And that's what you
Speaker 1: have to do. When they want a blitz like that,
Speaker 1: you gotta burn them. And all he had to do
Speaker 1: is shake the guy and they weren't gonna catch him.
Speaker 1: And has the Beasley cut that you're talking about ready
Speaker 1: to go. Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna make any excuses.
Speaker 1: There's there's a reason, but um you know, we gotta
Speaker 1: make them anyway, you know you Soun's always gonna be there,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So, um, So the sun
Speaker 1: was I was I was just I was just catching
Speaker 1: the sun on the wide draft I could That's why
Speaker 1: I said, you gotta deal with it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. There's no I mean, there's none you do.
Speaker 1: You just gotta catch the ball and we gotta make
Speaker 1: those plays five billion years, five billion years, he makes
Speaker 1: that play at that game has played at four twenty
Speaker 1: five because it's dark then start. Yeah it's dark sunset,
Speaker 1: it was dark years but yeah, that's or if it
Speaker 1: was at at and T that's stadium though. It is
Speaker 1: funny because that light does come that way. I mean
Speaker 1: it comes. And there's a reason why the Giants stand
Speaker 1: on the sun, the sun, the sideline with the sun.
Speaker 1: Because back in the day Wellington, Mary got sick and
Speaker 1: his mom said to his dad, you're never taking him
Speaker 1: to another game again. Make him stand in the sun.
Speaker 1: And he was like, he got sick. And so that's
Speaker 1: why you see the Giants and that was their sideline. Yeah, cool, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Giants stand opposite early in the season. Oh it's okay,
Speaker 1: true or false? They stay warm. Yeah, that's true, true
Speaker 1: or false. That's why missus Marri made him do it.
Speaker 1: Does Bryant will have a one hundred yard receiving game
Speaker 1: this season. So far, he does not have one. Where'd
Speaker 1: he get yesterday? Seventy three. Yeah, yeah, Philadelphia left right
Speaker 1: yet Philly, you don't know where they're covering pretty well
Speaker 1: right now. You need to need to see the Raiders
Speaker 1: and what they're doing. Seahawks Raiders. Yeah, I mean, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what though. A couple of good signs from
Speaker 1: the Raider game the other day from yesterday was that
Speaker 1: they had that the Chiefs were able to run the
Speaker 1: ball for about one hundred and forty yards and that
Speaker 1: the car didn't play all that while you look through
Speaker 1: for two hundred and eleven, So you need to catch
Speaker 1: an eye on that when see what the situation. The
Speaker 1: Raiders are kind of struggling right now, looks like defensively,
Speaker 1: maybe des gets something going, but no, I mean when
Speaker 1: you run the ball thirty one times, that's that's what
Speaker 1: they want to do. That they are and you want
Speaker 1: to attack different ways. And Dad completed passes to like
Speaker 1: nine different guys, eight nine different receivers, so it's not
Speaker 1: really an offense where one guy's gonna get a bunch
Speaker 1: of yards. Although rod Smith had a day one thirteen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but eighty one on one play. Yeah, maybe that's how
Speaker 1: Dez gets to one hundred. Well, I don't think it's important.
Speaker 1: That's partee they're gonna win because that's what they gotta do.
Speaker 1: They gotta win. Yeah, they guarantee for them to win
Speaker 1: is twenty one for twenty nine two three touchdowns, no interceptions,
Speaker 1: and then you get one hundred and twenty yards rushing.
Speaker 1: That's that's their guarantee of winning right there. It's not
Speaker 1: one guy getting one hundred yards. It's when you make plays.
Speaker 1: And that's what he did. He made a play. It's
Speaker 1: a good sign though that Daks continued, like Mickey said,
Speaker 1: to make reads, to make throws, you know, to kind
Speaker 1: of be on the same page with Dez, and you
Speaker 1: know those are It's like, if you're gonna if people
Speaker 1: are gonna blitz, you make them pay for blitzing. You
Speaker 1: make them you know, hey, if the offensive line's gonna
Speaker 1: hold up and Rod Smith's gonna come across the pocket
Speaker 1: and take on a blitzing us safety by all means,
Speaker 1: you know, go for it. And that's what teams are doing.
Speaker 1: Ye Like, you're no, you're not gonna beat me. I'm
Speaker 1: not worried about Zeke. I'm blitzing. Yep. You know, on
Speaker 1: the same thing that happened on the Witten's touchdown. They
Speaker 1: go three tight ends and everybody thinks, okay, they're loading up,
Speaker 1: we're gonna run. And then they sneak them down the
Speaker 1: field and and you hit a twenty yard touchdown pass.
Speaker 1: You could have thrown it to Hannah too. Hannah was
Speaker 1: open on the play right next to him. He could
Speaker 1: have gone either way. Yeah. Good because they all came up.
Speaker 1: They got up a scrimmage. Everybody came up. If that's
Speaker 1: what you can do, you gotta make him pay. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hear, Mickey. But all that really matters to me
Speaker 1: is targets. That's right. If targets are there, Mick, I
Speaker 1: think that's how you measured the true success of a receiver.
Speaker 1: Three out of I'm gonna give you a pass on that. Today.
Speaker 1: We got a five target on birthday. Friendly. Oh it's
Speaker 1: sweet her a pass. That's good. That's good. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you have more targets, you should be better. But
Speaker 1: it was the five hundredth win for the Dallas Cowboys organization,
Speaker 1: two fifty under Tech Stram and two fifty under Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1: So congratulations, Jerry. Yeah, I hope you're celebrating today. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he is. Oh, Jerry got his faster. Only took
Speaker 1: twenty eight years. Yeah, yeah, texts at twenty nine Yeah,
Speaker 1: by one year, so that's first year they didn't get
Speaker 1: any So it was twenty eight, two fifty and twenty
Speaker 1: eight years. Yeah. You know, it's it's always funny to
Speaker 1: see those kinds of stats because you're like, well, what
Speaker 1: does that really mean? Like five obviously is a big number. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but in thirty years, let's do the math. It's about right.
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of questions throughout the game about
Speaker 1: Jason Witten. People were saying, Okay, get him more involved,
Speaker 1: get him more involved. Finally he gets involved and it's
Speaker 1: a touchdown. So what did you think of that play, Brian, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like Mickey was talking about it, like what they did,
Speaker 1: Landon Collins went out. It was the play that Cole
Speaker 1: Beasley goes out, yeah, you know and catches the big
Speaker 1: ball and then Landing Collins gets hurt. You know, they
Speaker 1: take advantage of a situation where they have linebacker inside
Speaker 1: on Witton there they kind of get they kind of
Speaker 1: get in a situation where Brandon Dixon, the cornerback, gets
Speaker 1: caught in no man's land. Between Witten and then also
Speaker 1: James Hannah. That's what I'm saying. I felt like he
Speaker 1: could have gone either way and had a touchdown. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just a great it's it's a great design of
Speaker 1: a play when Witton can like cannot his head and
Speaker 1: get guys to just off that and he can get inside.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a heck of a row too good
Speaker 1: clean pocket and let the ball fire down the middle
Speaker 1: of the field. I I think it's unfortunate though about
Speaker 1: Wit and the holding calls. You know that he's at
Speaker 1: that couple and I know if fans were kind of like, oh,
Speaker 1: it seems like every time they have a big play
Speaker 1: he holds. I don't think that's necessarily the case. I
Speaker 1: think that you know, yeah, it looked like to me
Speaker 1: on the tape that his hands work on the outside. Again,
Speaker 1: you see him get pulled. You know, it negated a
Speaker 1: very long run. But now for the most part, you
Speaker 1: look at what happened in the game run blocking with Hannah,
Speaker 1: with Swaying and with Witt, and I think the tight
Speaker 1: ends did a really really nice job overall. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: do too. Just tell those people to watch the other
Speaker 1: side the holes they're getting away with I was just
Speaker 1: gonna says Marcus one more time. Guys grabbing him from
Speaker 1: behind the waist. Sure pointed it out after. It's probably
Speaker 1: gonna cost him twenty four thousand dollars? Is that the
Speaker 1: standard fine I've heard of that most likely is twenty
Speaker 1: grander plus Yeah, anything you do with an official. They
Speaker 1: had one the other day. Somebody bumped an official and
Speaker 1: I think it cost like thirty five thousand dollars plus five.
Speaker 1: You know what? The the the was it? The second one?
Speaker 1: The second one they called for lining up in the
Speaker 1: neutral zone, right, so the referee doesn't have the blue
Speaker 1: line to look at, right, right, so his hands right
Speaker 1: on the blue line. The problem was there was so
Speaker 1: much there was the space between him and and the
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. The tackle was so far off the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. It probably looked like he was in the
Speaker 1: neutral zone, right, Yeah, And it's like, what are they
Speaker 1: looking at? Yeah, I don't know. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: a conspiracy theory guy. I'm not either. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, this is a this is a defensive line
Speaker 1: that it gets pressure and so it's it's surprising that
Speaker 1: it's been I don't know how many how many weeks
Speaker 1: now and we've we've only said it's a competency. Yeah,
Speaker 1: come on. They called that false start on their running back.
Speaker 1: Yeah he must have done it because when I'm watching it,
Speaker 1: he didn't move. Yeah, that's walk, that's Walter Anderson though,
Speaker 1: or how did he come up with a false start?
Speaker 1: The poor guy kind of looked up and I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there and he was like this and he never didn't
Speaker 1: even move his head. Well, I'll tell you what too.
Speaker 1: They had a situation whereon our new defensive tackle daytone, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got someone else they called Crawford for defensive holding.
Speaker 1: It wasn't him. It wasn't him, It was Jones. It
Speaker 1: was defensive holding. So except they were double teaming him.
Speaker 1: Do you think he was trying to snatch so long?
Speaker 1: Oh he threw, Yeah, he had a handful. I mean
Speaker 1: if you were, if you were on the other side
Speaker 1: of it, you would have said, come on, you got
Speaker 1: to call that, you know, but how many times have
Speaker 1: you seen that called? And by the back judge, you know,
Speaker 1: it's funny though he gets called more than you think,
Speaker 1: which is that enhanced? I mean hands of the face
Speaker 1: about the other day, hands the face though Frederick had
Speaker 1: in the Washington game, they had a hands in the
Speaker 1: face again Frederick, not not for him, but against him.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's those are those are the kinds
Speaker 1: of college and to some degree it goes both ways.
Speaker 1: I was I was convinced Cheeto was gonna get flagged.
Speaker 1: They weren't going to pick that flag up because he
Speaker 1: kind of launched himself on the big hit. I forget
Speaker 1: which receiver it was that that could have been a
Speaker 1: penalty and they picked it up. Yeah with it, Roger Lewis, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was juggling the ball for five yards, just catch it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got him pretty good. You got a huge break
Speaker 1: with the receivers they had out there yesterday. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: get the phone lines. We have Eric from Fort Worth
Speaker 1: on the line. What's up Eric? Hello. I'll say I
Speaker 1: just wanted to um bring out the topic of Sean
Speaker 1: Lee and see kind of what y'all thought about his
Speaker 1: performance yesterday. UM. I think it's obvious, you know, for
Speaker 1: us that are Cowboys friends to see the impact he
Speaker 1: has on our team when he's out there, and you
Speaker 1: know we've in the struggles when we don't have him
Speaker 1: out there. But just kind of one of the time
Speaker 1: in on you know, just it just shows how much
Speaker 1: he pays attention to detail and how much he studies
Speaker 1: to film. Just for example, UM, I want to hear
Speaker 1: a little bit of Brian where you have to say
Speaker 1: on that reverse that he sniffed out, you know, and
Speaker 1: just go to the show what kind of player we
Speaker 1: have and what team defense we can play when he's
Speaker 1: out there, and I just hang up and listen to
Speaker 1: y'all answer that for me. Okay, yeah, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: It's the first point I made today on the Scouts notebook.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be up. I'm sure David them are putting
Speaker 1: it up here in a little bit, but yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I gave Rod Maryell a lot of credit for that
Speaker 1: call right there, because they ran a blitz. They ran
Speaker 1: like what's called a Wanda blitz, which is when they
Speaker 1: bring the will linebacker. They worked the front away from
Speaker 1: from Lee. They they sent the front strong and sent
Speaker 1: Lee week and Lee read the play though, I mean
Speaker 1: he was on the blitz anyway, So it was a
Speaker 1: good job by him kind of working Bobby Hart to tackle.
Speaker 1: Had no chance of getting him on the blitz. But
Speaker 1: it wasn't It wasn't really something that was Sean Lee
Speaker 1: diagnosing the play. It was it was a really nice
Speaker 1: call by Rod Marinelli slant the front, put Lee the
Speaker 1: other way and then have him make the tackle. They
Speaker 1: ran right into it. Though. It reminded me of the
Speaker 1: overtime win here against Philly last year, that huge play
Speaker 1: he made against Darren Sproles. Yeah, they got off the field,
Speaker 1: they knocked him out of field goal range. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then come back and win the game. It felt like
Speaker 1: it gave the offense some jews yesterday with that play
Speaker 1: get the ball back. I think that was the win
Speaker 1: and touchdown the next drive. Anthony Hitchins, I know you
Speaker 1: said it's he didn't really give credit to the play
Speaker 1: calling there. Yeah, but I think the caller spoke to it.
Speaker 1: His ability to die. Oh no, absolutely, no, absolutely, Anthony
Speaker 1: Hitchins make were either. Last week we told the story
Speaker 1: that how he will call out plays and it's just
Speaker 1: based on his preparation. Right. There was one time against
Speaker 1: Detroit that he kind of told Hitchins, hey, move a
Speaker 1: little this way, they're gonna do this. He didn't do it.
Speaker 1: Detroit scored a touchdown on the play, and Anthony said
Speaker 1: that's that's the last time I haven't listened to him
Speaker 1: because he knows he goes well. Credit to his work
Speaker 1: during the week. The caller is absolutely right. He's a
Speaker 1: he's a rare player, I say, a special player. But
Speaker 1: I could say that first one with the you know, hey,
Speaker 1: give Marinelli sometimes we talk about adjustments and this and that.
Speaker 1: Give the coaches a little credit for that when he
Speaker 1: called the right blitz at the right time. Absolutely boring
Speaker 1: play calls by let a hand yesterday, boring. I didn't
Speaker 1: hear that call today. He got smart. I guess it's
Speaker 1: your birthday. Enjoy yourself, that's right. Enjoy yourself means I
Speaker 1: can say what I want. You know. It's funny, though,
Speaker 1: if you you think about the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: halftime adjustments have been pretty good. I think if they're
Speaker 1: forty one and seven on points in the second half,
Speaker 1: something like that, twenty seven un answered yesterday. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: that wasn't most they've scored in the fourth quarter all season.
Speaker 1: Twenty points. Yeah. This is a This is a season
Speaker 1: of ups and down, It really really is. Philadelphia is
Speaker 1: about to experience one of the worst downs. Oh no,
Speaker 1: first season, you know, but Hey, that's, you know, good thing.
Speaker 1: They hung on to win that game enough because it
Speaker 1: got beat now, But he feels sorry for them, right,
Speaker 1: I don't they beat They would have had what three
Speaker 1: that would have been their third loss. I've been the
Speaker 1: third loss for three games to go. They go to
Speaker 1: the Giants this week. Yeah, yeah, never mind, Yeah, that
Speaker 1: team's not winning them. Your team played without your best
Speaker 1: player for six games. I don't feel sorry for anybody. Well,
Speaker 1: it has been a season, a season for injuries and
Speaker 1: big time players like Ezekiel Elliott significant time. I mean
Speaker 1: we can go through the league and pretty much look
Speaker 1: at most key players on some big teams that were
Speaker 1: expected to go far in the playoffs this year are out.
Speaker 1: You know, you think of the immedia names Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: j J. Watt, Andrew Luck, Deshaun Watson. Look at how
Speaker 1: that team is just oh, no, team's falling apart, absolutely
Speaker 1: fallen apart. And you know Dalvin Cook who has had
Speaker 1: off to a great start and so Ohdell. I mean
Speaker 1: you look at that for the Giants. It's reality in
Speaker 1: the NFL, right, David Johnson, Julian Edelman, Joe Staley, Joe Thomas,
Speaker 1: Jason Peters. Yeah, I mean, let's goes on and on.
Speaker 1: Eric Barry went out in the first game. Malik Hooker, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's craziness. So you feel for these guys, but it's
Speaker 1: part of it, and it's it's never fun. But let's
Speaker 1: take our final break. When we come back, we will
Speaker 1: have Rob's Twitter poll and we will have more Mickey
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Speaker 1: his best for showing not a good day for him.
Speaker 1: The defense kind of fell apart in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: didn't fall apart. The Cowboys just beat him to the punch.
Speaker 1: I think this, I think with the I was surprised
Speaker 1: the way he coached that game, to be honest with
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Speaker 1: hype around him going into training camp. But if I'd
Speaker 1: like to do a rate ride in one do it
Speaker 1: you could mention about I only got Fortunately, Ron Crawford
Speaker 1: might be my guy, right, most improved, all right, playing
Speaker 1: a different position, position just kind of you know, he
Speaker 1: had a lot of rest during OTAs was able to
Speaker 1: be successful, you know, with DeMarcus Lawrence, and I've liked
Speaker 1: what I've seen from him, you know, I obviously I
Speaker 1: could want more, but I think he's improved. He goes
Speaker 1: someone there, mick uh Layle Collins. I was going to
Speaker 1: say him too. I mean, the improvement is not from
Speaker 1: a year ago to now, it's from the beginning of
Speaker 1: the season, the first month to how he's playing now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you think it's hands down, Yeah, if you look
Speaker 1: at what happened when he was a starter for you
Speaker 1: the first three games last year and then he then
Speaker 1: he was kind of a glorified scout team guy into
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and then he moves to a whole new position. Well,
Speaker 1: he played left tackle at LSU. But we remember the
Speaker 1: days in Oxnard. We were kind of watching those one
Speaker 1: on one drills and we were really looks a little
Speaker 1: rough out there. He's getting beat by guys that are like,
Speaker 1: you know, rookie guys. He's not getting beat by you know,
Speaker 1: it's not like DeMarcus Lawrence is whipping him every play.
Speaker 1: I think he's learned a little patience with you said
Speaker 1: that job. So the last week he said actually being
Speaker 1: kind of less than one hundred percent, he's trusted his
Speaker 1: technique a little more instead of that aggressiveness that he
Speaker 1: maybe you need more at guard. Right. Um, Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: done a nice job two weeks in a row, in
Speaker 1: particular being being banged up. He wins the poll thirty
Speaker 1: four percent, followed by Rod Smith at twenty eight percent.
Speaker 1: Got a couple of people tweeting me saying, what about
Speaker 1: de Marcus Lawrence number one, he would win because he's
Speaker 1: leading the NFL and sacks number two. I tie a
Speaker 1: lot of his improvement to just being healthy. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they managed him the right way this year. They did.
Speaker 1: They did the right thing, him losing some weight, you know,
Speaker 1: slimming down a little bit, and then him staying healthy.
Speaker 1: I think that was huge. Rod Smith's not a bad
Speaker 1: one either, because of where he's come from. I was
Speaker 1: kind of hopeful that again that we would have seen
Speaker 1: the games that were that Zeke was out, that we
Speaker 1: was seen this every week from rod Smith. What I
Speaker 1: was hopeful. I mean, they had him there every nickel
Speaker 1: down right, and then they gave him a series here
Speaker 1: in a series there right right. It was it was good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Alfred Alfred looked like he was running in muddle a
Speaker 1: little bit yesterday. Yes, I didn't feel like that, you know.
Speaker 1: And then he might have to bounce a couple of times.
Speaker 1: What was he thinking on that? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Nate and I was I mean, stopped the
Speaker 1: clock twice. I gave them an extra minute in time.
Speaker 1: Nate and I were screaming at each other, and then
Speaker 1: the in the I got it circled in much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was. It's just not not a very
Speaker 1: football intelligent play. And Alfred's a smarter guy than that.
Speaker 1: He understands that protect the football, stay and bounced. Nick
Speaker 1: was doing the same thing on the sideline. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: went down like, what come on now, don't don't do it?
Speaker 1: And he knows, he knows better than that. He's a bet.
Speaker 1: I liked you putting in Cavon Frazier on there though too.
Speaker 1: That was not a bad deal right there. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: he really has improved a lot of people have mostly
Speaker 1: seen as improvents on special teams. But he's a guy
Speaker 1: who wants to You can just tell how hungry he
Speaker 1: is to be better. Yeah, earned a spot in Sorry,
Speaker 1: he earned a spot in that defensive safety rotation kind
Speaker 1: of the way JJ Wilcox did a company. I need,
Speaker 1: I need Mickey to ask a question for me, and
Speaker 1: I know and I know he can do it. On
Speaker 1: the play that went down the field, the thirty five
Speaker 1: yard completion they have, it was him or Sean Lee
Speaker 1: that I think was wrong. And I'm willing to bet
Speaker 1: that Shawn Lee's generally not wrong with his with what
Speaker 1: he was doing because they they they were in a
Speaker 1: coverage where Lee was ready for the guy to come underneath.
Speaker 1: He was he had the tight end initially, and then
Speaker 1: he passed him off and Frasier came forward, and so
Speaker 1: the ball went over the top. So I'm a little
Speaker 1: bit worried that Frasier might have misread that one. I
Speaker 1: asked Sean about it. He said, they were in a
Speaker 1: zone blitz right, and if you look at it, the
Speaker 1: right defensive end backed off. I can't remember if it
Speaker 1: was Mayoa or Taco as Maya as Mayoe. He dropped
Speaker 1: out right. They blitzed Woods off the slot. That's right,
Speaker 1: So somebody and then, as it turned out, Jeff Heath
Speaker 1: was playing single safety high right, and Sean followed the
Speaker 1: guy for about ten yards and then just stopped. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because Sterling Sterling settles inside like he's gonna play the crosser.
Speaker 1: And what happened was Frasier drove on on Sterling on.
Speaker 1: That's where the other guy was. Yeah, because on the
Speaker 1: TV copy when I replayed it it the other safety
Speaker 1: wasn't in the picture. Yeah. What happened was you had
Speaker 1: your right Heath was in the middle of the field
Speaker 1: or actually shaded to his right to the right. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: and then Frasier came forward and what's free? See they
Speaker 1: and I think the Giants did a pretty good job
Speaker 1: at disguising what they were going to do on the
Speaker 1: route because they had they had Ingram played as an
Speaker 1: in line y so he was along the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: so you know, you really kind of lose track, but
Speaker 1: really where he is. And like I say, Lee had
Speaker 1: him initially and then stopped to hit the crosser and
Speaker 1: the crosser never came, but Frasier was already up on
Speaker 1: so and Eli made an adjustment on it. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: showed him signs yeah he did this, yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Really the only big play of the game for them
Speaker 1: that the next biggest completion was a sixteen yard or
Speaker 1: Roger lewis right, you take away that bust and defense
Speaker 1: that are really nice. It was like a one play touchdown,
Speaker 1: right basically thirty five yards. But yeah, the guy can't
Speaker 1: be that viral. I just wondered if Frasier I just
Speaker 1: kind of think, you know, Sean Lee, you kind of think, oh,
Speaker 1: Sean Lee knows what he's doing. Frasier kind of getting
Speaker 1: in the mixed little and I also think if Sean
Speaker 1: would have thrown himself under the bus. He yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, we just had a busted coverage.
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phone lines. We have Tom
Speaker 1: from Pennsylvania on the line. Tom, what's your question? Hey,
Speaker 1: that's how you're doing. Just a quick comment. I'm out here.
Speaker 1: A lot of these Eagles fans they they're sound for
Speaker 1: a Tony Romo. You guys, would you think Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: would be if Romo came out of the box to
Speaker 1: join the Eagles. And then my second point is in
Speaker 1: the off season, one of the chances of them contact
Speaker 1: in Cleveland and trying to get taking a fire on
Speaker 1: Josh scored him. I think it's been known that they've
Speaker 1: been trying to trade him, and I think, you know,
Speaker 1: if we can, if we could find a way to
Speaker 1: get him here and get the right counseling, he would
Speaker 1: automatically up to trade our team. Thanks to take him
Speaker 1: with all guys, Thank you. Josh Gordon is one strike
Speaker 1: away from being gone forever. Yeah. I hate to be
Speaker 1: the wet blanket guy. I wouldn't mess with Josh. I
Speaker 1: mean I'm not giving up, nope, anything, fire and all
Speaker 1: that and you know, I know John Dorsey, Well, John
Speaker 1: Dorsey's not stupid, you know. I mean I say this
Speaker 1: in all respect. I think he realizes that Josh Gordon
Speaker 1: is a tremendous talent, you know, and so you know,
Speaker 1: but he's one. He's literally one, one false test or
Speaker 1: whatever you want to say. I mean, being in the
Speaker 1: wrong place at the wrong time, away from not ever
Speaker 1: playing football again. I just don't you know, we talk
Speaker 1: about counseling and though you know, we haven't really done
Speaker 1: that very well right now either, absolutely, And why would
Speaker 1: Jerry be mad at Romo? They caught him if they
Speaker 1: if well, they granted his release, so well, yeah, they
Speaker 1: caught him. Okay. I think everyone knew that going into
Speaker 1: this season. Anytime a quarter quarterback went down, a lot
Speaker 1: of people would be looking at Romo, and especially in
Speaker 1: the division. But there is I think it would be
Speaker 1: a very very crazy world. And I know we live
Speaker 1: in a wild world these days, but for Tony Romo
Speaker 1: to leave the broadcasting booth to go be the quarterback
Speaker 1: in garbage time basically for the Hey, right you think
Speaker 1: that you let me ask you this, Do you think
Speaker 1: the Eagles are talented enough with a quarterback to win
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with it with a quarterback, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: way once was playing. Yeah, yeah, I think they were.
Speaker 1: I do too. I mean and they lost. You know,
Speaker 1: I said, some of those guys that were on this
Speaker 1: list of big injuries they had, Yeah, that was a
Speaker 1: if you're chasing a ring, that was a championship tie
Speaker 1: performance yesterday. After he got hurt, Like he goes out,
Speaker 1: then the defense goes makes a plays, gets a sack, fumble,
Speaker 1: they go win the game. I mean, that's that's what
Speaker 1: really good teams do. I just I mean with Foles,
Speaker 1: he's a good player. I mean, I wouldn't discount their
Speaker 1: chances to getting out of the NFC. But obviously, like
Speaker 1: you said in the break, he's an MVP player, wins
Speaker 1: his if you're chasing the ring? Would if your roma,
Speaker 1: would you consider it? Now? Does it mean that much
Speaker 1: take to ring anymore? Though? I Mean, ultimately I feel
Speaker 1: like his legacy is with the Dallas Cowboys. Could he
Speaker 1: could he could solidify a Hall of Fame position for him.
Speaker 1: Do you think he could just jump in, like really
Speaker 1: realistically physically with his back. He's not just a retired player.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy that had major back issues,
Speaker 1: and that's one reason why he's he hung him up.
Speaker 1: I believe not just the fact that, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: Dak took over this this role. I really believe that
Speaker 1: it's not It's not just a guy coming out of retirement,
Speaker 1: you know, who's fully healthy. I think he's found his second,
Speaker 1: his next calling. Oh, I've been in the back. I
Speaker 1: bet in the back of his mind he thinks he
Speaker 1: could do it, absolutely could. But I think he'll make
Speaker 1: a smart to He wouldn't if you're Howie Roseman, though
Speaker 1: you call, oh, sure, why not. But at this point
Speaker 1: in the season, I just how quickly he's gonna help
Speaker 1: him right, he could be ready for the playoffs to
Speaker 1: make that change. That would be a nice bow on
Speaker 1: one crazy season. Though. I'll tell you start seeing him
Speaker 1: on New Year's Day. You start the you started that
Speaker 1: start folds against the against the Giants this week, and
Speaker 1: you could get him ready in two weeks, couldn't you,
Speaker 1: Mickey have him ready for the Cowboys? Yeah? Nut craziness,
Speaker 1: craziness making. Nebbie tweeted at you and said happy birthday,
Speaker 1: But he also had a question for you, and he said,
Speaker 1: is it fair to say Xavier Woods has played well
Speaker 1: in the slot our last two games. I think he's
Speaker 1: done a good job. I think he's he's jumped in.
Speaker 1: I think all three of those guys have, um, you know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if their defense was the reason the
Speaker 1: Giants were throwing the ball underneath so much, but I
Speaker 1: think more and more those guys are. They're coming along
Speaker 1: and can I be a wet blanket guy future there.
Speaker 1: He's just not tackling very well. He really isn't, you know.
Speaker 1: And and I worry. I worry about that. The coverage
Speaker 1: aspect of it, I think is outstanding. Now, the tackling
Speaker 1: power of it. He missed a couple yesterday he should
Speaker 1: have had, So I mean that worries me about him
Speaker 1: because I thought it Louisiana Tech, he was a much
Speaker 1: better tackler than he is. Falls off a lot of tackles.
Speaker 1: He did spin off a guy or two. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: just Mickey, You're right about the coverage stuff. I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to be the other side of it. I think
Speaker 1: he has played well, Nebbie, I do. I agree with
Speaker 1: what Mickey is saying, but I worry about him. We've
Speaker 1: seen it from him and maybe it's something that he
Speaker 1: can correct in two thousand and eighteen, because we've seen
Speaker 1: him miss some tackles in the Green Bay game. You
Speaker 1: remember they bounced off a couple there. I mean, he
Speaker 1: hasn't been really overly consistent doing that. And and if
Speaker 1: you have, if you said, Brian, give me a concern
Speaker 1: about Xavier Woods, he's not a consistent tackler. That's that's
Speaker 1: that's the truth. I think that can improve. And I
Speaker 1: like the idea of letting Scandrick do one thing. I
Speaker 1: don't disagree with you on that. Just let him play
Speaker 1: right corner. I wonder what the timetable is with Scandrick.
Speaker 1: I think here's the deal. He's got a It's a
Speaker 1: good question because, yeah, Tony, Mickey just wanted to say that.
Speaker 1: Mickey just want to say, let the young guys keep playing.
Speaker 1: Tony miss just one game. I just don't the same injury.
Speaker 1: But it's a different position and more out of you
Speaker 1: than just playing corner. I think I think he's got
Speaker 1: to miss one more game. Okay. Just the way he
Speaker 1: was kind of walking around in the room, it didn't
Speaker 1: look like a guy that was ready to spring out
Speaker 1: of bed. And you know, with the o play playing corner.
Speaker 1: You gotta use your hips, you got a twist, you
Speaker 1: gotta change of direction. Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. He's
Speaker 1: tough guy. I'd be able to come back early. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And David Irvine, I think we're expecting him to get
Speaker 1: back into the swing of things this week. Knock on wood.
Speaker 1: I was surprised he didn't make it through, didn't make
Speaker 1: it a concussion product. That a strange cat. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you just gotta don't know when you know he's when
Speaker 1: he's nicked up, you never kind of get a feeling
Speaker 1: what what what? What's what's wrong there? But we'll see
Speaker 1: maybe this week. Man. You know, we did get home
Speaker 1: a little earlier last night, and it was it was
Speaker 1: funny to see Brandon car poor guy, just getting beat
Speaker 1: up all day from mister Antonio Brown. Did you catch that,
Speaker 1: Mick I was watching it. Oh, they were brutal. He
Speaker 1: kept going to him. Oh all day. I think he
Speaker 1: got targeted. Somebody was getting targeted at Pittsburgh because they
Speaker 1: gave up a hell of a lot of points too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the wild game. That was surprising that Baltimore was able
Speaker 1: to score thirty eight points. To be honest, with you
Speaker 1: and it wasn't enough. Well and another injury. They said,
Speaker 1: without Chazier there, that made a huge difference on their defense. Well,
Speaker 1: that's that's one of those things where you know it's
Speaker 1: not supposed to though, right, one guy step it up.
Speaker 1: Oh that's I'll tell you what. There's some teams, there's
Speaker 1: some teams, there's some teams in AFC now that without Chasier,
Speaker 1: that is a different defense without him there from Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: And they didn't have an easy test. This weekend they
Speaker 1: have this Patriots. Yes, is that a Thursday game? This
Speaker 1: Sunday game Sunday Sunday Fox, Oh, tonight's yeah, Patriots Dolphins tonight.
Speaker 1: What I was, Yeah, Yeah. The Cowboys go, of course
Speaker 1: up to Oakland next week to face the Raiders, who
Speaker 1: just lost to Kansas City at Kansas City last time
Speaker 1: in the black Hole for you guys, you miss that place.
Speaker 1: I'm miss going on the field, you know where they go.
Speaker 1: Get your picture made by the black hole made locker room,
Speaker 1: the picture made come through in the middle there and
Speaker 1: I saw rats running around. Oh sure, good sewage, I'll
Speaker 1: miss that. Hey, be sure and take your coat tape
Speaker 1: and the air press box and the fine air. The
Speaker 1: windows will be fine on open air. I think it's
Speaker 1: in the in the in the baseball press box where
Speaker 1: we sit was open air. It's gonna be nice though, right,
Speaker 1: it'd be nice out there. I don't remember it being
Speaker 1: open air. I'm just saying, take a jacket. Okay. Remember
Speaker 1: in the preseason it was open air. We're in the
Speaker 1: baseball press box at auxiliary press box air conditioning. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I have sixty four on Sunday at Oakland. Sounds good.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss the the uh the locker not the
Speaker 1: locker room, the coaching interview in that hallway, the way room.
Speaker 1: It can't you can't get any Oh yeah, they moved it.
Speaker 1: It's in the weight room. It's in the four or there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We did it in the hallway and everybody was like,
Speaker 1: you know, just fend for yourself. Can't wait. Bring it on.
Speaker 1: Our photo area is literally the a's dugout. And then
Speaker 1: the elevator that one year didn't work. Oh no, we
Speaker 1: had to walk up matter. One time. We had to
Speaker 1: try and get Monty from the locker room to the
Speaker 1: press box. We got lost. Me and U was one
Speaker 1: of the coaches when the day Berganzi. We were trying
Speaker 1: to get into the We couldn't find the elevator to
Speaker 1: get to the press box. Here's Monty trying to call
Speaker 1: the game. We couldn't get him to the press Well.
Speaker 1: I'm excited, I'm ready for it, and I'm ready to
Speaker 1: get more into it this week, starting tomorrow, we'll be
Speaker 1: back here, same time, same place, same I like that
Speaker 1: idea of the picture. Happy birthday, Thank you guys. This
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