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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of

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Speaker 1: today's best minds, and a Financial Times poll says fifty

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Speaker 1: thirty percent of registered voters say they are worse off

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Speaker 1: under Trump. We have such a great show for you today.

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Speaker 1: The Lincoln Project's own Rick Wilson joins us to discuss

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Speaker 1: Todd Blanche, demonstrating he'll do whatever Crump says. Then we'll

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Speaker 1: talk to Brian Poindexter about his run for Max Miller's

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Speaker 1: congressional seat. But first the news SMI.

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Speaker 2: I think there's an interesting thing unfolding here.

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Speaker 3: One of the things we will often see with administrations,

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Speaker 3: particularly the Trumps one is that they move the goalpost

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Speaker 3: on what is actually a goal and that they would

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Speaker 3: consider winning.

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Speaker 4: And we're seeing JD.

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Speaker 3: Evans and the rest of the Trump administration do this

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Speaker 3: now on the war in Iram.

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Speaker 1: This war is a fucking disaster for everyone, more than

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Speaker 1: just a normal war, which is a fucking disaster for everyone.

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Speaker 1: They need to basically make it like before Trump went

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Speaker 1: into this war, and so they're trying to make it

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Speaker 1: move the goalpoats because there were never goalposts to begin with.

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Speaker 1: So here are some of the things that Trump has

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Speaker 1: said are going to happen. The Iranians are going to surrender,

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Speaker 1: there's going to be regime changed, They're never going to

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Speaker 1: get a nuclear weapon, and he's going to end to

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Speaker 1: Ron's support for Middle East proxy groups like Kesbolah. Here's

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Speaker 1: what's happened. Wherein the six month nothing has happened except

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Speaker 1: that the Iranians have closed the Straight, which is completely

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Speaker 1: the worst case scenario because it means that like a

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Speaker 1: fourth of all oil and gas is not is just

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Speaker 1: not traveling through the Strait, which means everything is more expensive,

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Speaker 1: and there's also soil and all sorts of other stuff

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Speaker 1: that goes through the strait. So what does this mean.

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Speaker 1: It means that we they are just trying to end

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Speaker 1: this war as quickly as possible. Donald Trump is doing

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Speaker 1: his usual thing, and in fact, this week he said that

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Speaker 1: these trade is open, which is good except that you

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Speaker 1: can check online and see that it's not. And Jada

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Speaker 1: on it. So he was on Fox News on Thursday

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Speaker 1: and they asked him how the war might end, and

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Speaker 1: he laid out two goals, ensuring that golf countries continue

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Speaker 1: to send oil and gas so that the world economy

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Speaker 1: so we have energy price stability, which by the way,

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Speaker 1: they already do, and that's goal number one. Keep oil

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Speaker 1: and gas cheap for Americans all over the country. Fyi,

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Speaker 1: we are from a few things to remember about this.

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Speaker 1: We actually don't get oil and cats from the Middle eastward,

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Speaker 1: and we do, but we're we're the largest producer.

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Speaker 5: Now and yes, our supply chain does get it since

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Speaker 5: we outsore manufacturing, and that's the big problem and why

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Speaker 5: we're going to put money into Japan.

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Speaker 1: Right, but we have, but the gas goes up as

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Speaker 1: if it's harder to get it, the prices go up,

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Speaker 1: so so again, making sure that it gets sent to

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Speaker 1: US has not anything to do with this war. And

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Speaker 1: then the goal too is to ensure that Iran never

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Speaker 1: gets a new golo weapon. Now you may remember a

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Speaker 1: thing that Barack Obama did called the Iran Nuclear Deal,

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Speaker 1: which was to ensure that Iran never got a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 1: But Donald Trump ended it because he said it was terrible.

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Speaker 1: Now vance would die for it. And here we are.

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Speaker 1: Carolyn Levitt, who was on her way out, said both

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Speaker 1: goals are equally important to the president who was in

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Speaker 1: New York trying to help his friend become governor with

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Speaker 1: zero chance. So another case of like these people having

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Speaker 6: I have a theory that you sometimes grown up me

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Speaker 6: about that. Chuck Schumer and Hakim Jeffries seemed like their

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Speaker 6: job is to make the Democratic Party unpopular. Kristin Wilker

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Speaker 6: just had Hakim Jeffries on, and for some background, Hakim

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Speaker 6: supported Medicare for all legislation and co sponsored bills from

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Speaker 6: twenty thirteen to twenty twenty one, and he just said

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Speaker 6: to her that he no longer supports it. Great stuff,

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Speaker 6: great stuff A twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think Medicare for all, Medicare, public option,

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Speaker 1: call it what you will. It's happening. So I don't

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Speaker 1: I think we'll see what it looks like if Democrats

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Speaker 1: there's an up versus down right people are angry. Voters

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Speaker 1: are angry. They want more, and that's going to include

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Speaker 1: a team doesn't. I don't think he really reflects where

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Speaker 1: a lot of the bases. Jesse, do you have something

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Speaker 1: you want to say about this? I feel like you do.

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Speaker 2: I just consistently we see over and over and over

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Speaker 2: again that the issues that are very popular with Democratic voters,

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Speaker 2: the leadership cannot bring themselves to get there with And

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Speaker 2: you know, sometimes, you know, we do have to think

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Speaker 2: we want principled leadership, but we also want leadership of

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Speaker 2: our party that reflects our values. And when we have

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Speaker 2: these overwhelmingly popular issues, I don't get how this happens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't. I have not ever been

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Speaker 1: a hugehe Keem fan, but I would I would say

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Speaker 1: product of the Congressional Black Caucus that has had a

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Speaker 1: to a lot of people, including me. Uh and you

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Speaker 1: know we do so like, well, ideologically, he might not

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Speaker 1: there's evidence to support the idea that he will, but

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of I mean, the party is broad

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Speaker 1: and a big tent. But I just would say, like,

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Speaker 1: I think he's more likely to stay in leadership than Chuck.

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Speaker 1: That's my guess because I think, yes, yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: he's a little bit better reflecting the caucus than Trekkis.

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Speaker 1: But I would also add, like it is the job

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Speaker 1: if they vote for Keem, they need to make sure

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Speaker 1: do I think that a Keem is great on television?

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Speaker 1: I do not. But and do I think that the

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Speaker 1: party base wants more than that? Yes, for sure. But

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Speaker 1: I also think like an Obamacare, I mean, what Biden

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Speaker 1: I would just say, like, what we've seen behind the

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Speaker 2: Okay, Milly, this is really really disturbing. So in ICE

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Speaker 2: facility in Mississippi had a guest leak and they refuse

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Speaker 2: from it. Afterwards, Great stuff here, you know, you can't

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So here's what's happening here. There are where we

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Speaker 1: are living in America right now, where ICE has these

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Speaker 1: they have basically what concentration camps, and in them they

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Speaker 1: some of them are children, some of them are not children,

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Speaker 1: some of them are criminals, most of them are not.

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Speaker 1: And these people are not getting medical care. They're being

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Speaker 1: And why are they doing that? Because they know that

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Speaker 1: Delaney Hall is like a death camp. And we are

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Speaker 1: same as the weakers in China. It is probably one

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Speaker 1: of the largest shames of our life that Rick Wilson

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Speaker 4: Rick Wilson, Hello, Molly.

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Speaker 1: We're just talking about the incredible performance by the Trump

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Speaker 1: administration at a political rally for a candidate. So this

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Speaker 1: is yesterday's excitement. Donald Trump had his head of his

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Speaker 1: FBI Cash hotel. You may remember him from drinking at

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Speaker 4: He does love a cocktail.

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Speaker 1: Apparently he does love a cocktail. And Donald Trump's new

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Speaker 1: sworn in Attorney General doing a rasually for a candidate

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Speaker 7: Discuss Bruce Blakeman. I have as much chance of being

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Speaker 7: named the next Pope as Bruce Blakeman has a beige

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Speaker 7: governor of the York. But I mean, look it.

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Speaker 1: Really Catholic, aren't you Catholic?

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Speaker 7: Well again again, the chance of me becoming pope is

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Speaker 7: to becoming New York City governor. The problem for me

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Speaker 7: a fraction by a hair. Yeah, going to a political rally.

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Speaker 7: And the thing that offended me the most, set aside,

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Speaker 7: like the meta part of it, when that son of

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Speaker 7: January sixth terrorist.

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Speaker 4: Of course those people are fine.

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Speaker 7: Those of money, Yeah, going to get paid for attacking

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Speaker 7: cops and yeah. So I don't know if you caught

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Speaker 7: meet the press this morning, but Blanche was on there

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Speaker 7: with Welker and he said, and she said, well, you

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Speaker 7: know what if Ronald Trump asked you to break the law,

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Speaker 7: and he's like, he would never do that. Oh no,

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Speaker 7: oh come on, man, we I mean, I think.

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Speaker 1: It's worth actually just pausing for a second and going

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Speaker 1: say that. He also said, so, Welker said, can you

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Speaker 1: pledge the DOJ will always act independently of the White House,

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Speaker 4: Pretty yeah, pretty much like the baseline, right.

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Speaker 1: And Bland says, no, I'm not going to promise that.

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Speaker 1: And no attorney general ever should totally disqualifying, like every

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Speaker 1: attorney general should do that and did do that until

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Speaker 1: this fucking guy. Okay, Welker said, so if the president

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Speaker 1: instead of saying, now you know what the what the

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Speaker 1: proper answer is, of course I would never do anything illegal.

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Speaker 7: They all, they all, they're all making their contingency plans

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Speaker 7: we knock them back in the stone age, they don't care.

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Speaker 7: That gives them regime more power over the people of Iran,

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Speaker 7: not less power. They care about their survival and they're

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Speaker 7: gonna survive. They figured this thing out. None of them

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Speaker 7: are using cell phones anymore. They're all using their are

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Speaker 7: using messengers on motorcycles, taking handwritten notes back and forth.

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Speaker 7: Does it slow things down, Sure of course it does.

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Speaker 7: But does it make it so we put them down

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Speaker 7: and target them and kill them, Yes, it does. So

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Speaker 7: we got into this war in part because net and

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Speaker 7: Yahoo Wamma Jam and Trump into it. But Trump also

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Speaker 7: did it because he wanted to be the tough guy.

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Speaker 7: He thought he was going to scare them or intimidate them,

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Speaker 7: and they set that an ironclad plan to beat them.

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Speaker 4: And like we've talked about.

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Speaker 7: Before, every professional who has studied the Gulf, who has

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Speaker 7: followed along for the last forty years in that region

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Speaker 7: has said, you know what, going to war with Iran

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Speaker 7: has consequences that we can't control. I mean, so let

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Speaker 7: me just say this to your audience, audience.

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Speaker 1: Here, anyone who's read the Economist knows it closes straight

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Speaker 1: in is a country of eighty million people. Don't have

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Speaker 1: to be a genius.

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Speaker 7: Well, here here's here's a funny thing that people you

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Speaker 7: know in this audience may not may not immediately grasp.

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Speaker 4: Even Dick Cheney was like, no, no, that's too much.

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Speaker 4: We're not going to go to war with the Yeah, even.

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Speaker 7: Dick Cheney, Oh yeah, okay, No, who was surrounded by

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Speaker 7: a bunch of thoughts who were hockeier than Dick Cheney,

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Speaker 7: who people who really wanted to turn Iran into a

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Speaker 7: parking lot.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, We deconflicted with Iran in the in desert storm.

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Speaker 7: We deconflicted with Iran during during the Iraq War. I mean,

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Speaker 7: we had we sprints back and forth at the lower levels,

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Speaker 7: but everybody realized what would happen to the world economy

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Speaker 7: if Iran decided to use cheap sea minds to close

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Speaker 7: the straight, which is what they're doing. And Trump is

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Speaker 7: Trump is the greatest fool in American foreign policy history.

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Speaker 7: There's literally never been a mistake in our foreign policy

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Speaker 7: or military history bigger than this one. Vietnam looked like

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Speaker 7: a great decision compared to this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and now we're saying you can't get out of it,

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Speaker 1: which is endlessly I mean, and gas prices and so

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Speaker 1: the question will be will voters vote for me? The

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Speaker 1: thing that I'm so struck by is, like we see

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Speaker 1: voters really are the thing that has made them so

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Speaker 1: sour on Trump. Not the anti democracy thing, not the racism,

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Speaker 1: not the sexism, not the allegations, but literally the gas prices.

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Speaker 7: Hey, you know what, it's the it's the unspinnable molly,

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Speaker 7: even maga. Voters can't go to the gas pump where

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Speaker 7: they're putting fia gallon gas in their truck and say, wow,

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Speaker 7: I'm paying two dollars like Trump said I am, because

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Speaker 7: then they have.

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Speaker 4: Then, you know, trumping.

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Speaker 7: The day was like gas is an average of a

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Speaker 7: dollar eighty nine. Show me, show me, show me where

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Speaker 7: it is? Donald and nobody else believes it either because

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Speaker 7: even even the and look, you can't spend the price

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Speaker 7: of gas and the price of groceries for everyday people,

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Speaker 7: no matter what Fox tells them, it's more expensive than

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Speaker 7: it was.

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Speaker 4: And it's Trump's fault.

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Speaker 7: There's no other nothing else caused this magical rise in

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Speaker 7: gas prices except the war that Trump didn't have to

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Speaker 7: start and cannot win.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the only thing that's cheaper is the diarrhea lettuce.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, not even that is cheaper.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, the diarrhea let Us, to my mind,

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Speaker 7: is such a symbol of this country. At this point,

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Speaker 7: the company that has the diarrhea lettus has to get

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Speaker 7: deregulation so they didn't have to test their poop lettuce

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Speaker 7: to make sure the less didn't have poop in the

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Speaker 7: poop lettuce. And so now they got their wish. They

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Speaker 7: got their wish. We stopped testing for those things. We

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Speaker 7: gave them, We gave them the power they wanted. And

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Speaker 7: now they face a brand killing catastrophe because the regulation

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Speaker 7: they thought was costing the money was actually saving them.

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Speaker 4: Money in the end.

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Speaker 7: And now now Taylor Farmer is going to have to

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Speaker 7: rebrand as something like definitely not the poop lettuce that

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Speaker 7: will cause you explosive diarrhea.

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Speaker 1: Support Trump, support anti regulation, and in the end, get

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Speaker 1: the poop lettuce.

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Speaker 7: Rick Wilson Mollifaz, I'd love to see as always. I

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Speaker 7: hope I can come back next week.

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Speaker 1: Brian Poindexter is the Democratic nominee for the Ohio seventh

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Speaker 1: congressional district.

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Speaker 9: Welcome, Welcome, Brian, thanks for having me, happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you are you are. We're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about your awesome campaign and how you're running in Ohio.

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Speaker 1: But first we're going to talk about a little bit

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Speaker 1: about this seat you're running for. You are running in Ohio.

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Speaker 1: You are running against a guy called Max Miller. That

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Speaker 1: guy has been in the news because of pretty horrific

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Speaker 1: allegations against him. It is in your seat is an

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Speaker 1: R plus.

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Speaker 9: Well, it was drawn R plus five. Trump actually won

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Speaker 9: it by eleven two years ago. It's a district that

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Speaker 9: shared Brown also runs well in. In twenty eighteen, he

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Speaker 9: would have won this district.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a very much t eighteen cycle. So

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Speaker 1: there are all sorts of reasons why you can win

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Speaker 1: this seat. Now, tell us a little bit about how

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Speaker 1: you're running and what it looks like for you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: So all the demographics you meant are true. But they

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Speaker 9: jerrymannered this district to try to protect Max Miller, but

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Speaker 9: they accidentally drew a perfect district for me. I'm right

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Speaker 9: from the heart of the district in brook Park, Ohio,

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Speaker 9: where I've served the last nine years as a city

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Speaker 9: council member and built a reputation of showing up and

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Speaker 9: fighting for people when they need me the most.

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Speaker 10: I have a great reputation in the.

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Speaker 9: Community as a former coach and just a general helpful

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Speaker 9: guy in our youth community, but also built a reputation

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Speaker 9: of showing up and helping people, whether it's taking out

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Speaker 9: garbage for the lady down the street or helping somebody

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Speaker 9: fix their brakes on their car.

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Speaker 10: Always eager to help somebody.

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Speaker 9: But for nineteen years, I've been a union iron worker

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Speaker 9: with iron Workers Local seventeen, and this area is very

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Speaker 9: much pro union.

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Speaker 10: Even those that.

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Speaker 9: Aren't in a union understand the benefits of union membership

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Speaker 9: and how they lift wages for everybody across the board.

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Speaker 9: And it's a very hard working district. A Union I worker,

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Speaker 9: you know, it's no secret we work very hard building

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Speaker 9: the skyline and the infrastructure in our communities. And you know,

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Speaker 9: people really value hard work here in this district, and

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Speaker 9: that gives us real strength. You know, when I go

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Speaker 9: down to the more traditionally Republican areas and shake their hands,

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Speaker 9: it's worker to worker, it's it's family manda to family member.

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Speaker 9: You know, it's it's a really close knit community and

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Speaker 9: partisan lines are aren't aren't as big a deal here

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Speaker 9: for a lot of people.

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Speaker 1: I think it's I would love you to say more

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Speaker 1: about union work, especially in when it comes to Ohio,

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Speaker 1: because it feels to me like unions were a way

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Speaker 1: that Democrats were able to win working people, and they

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Speaker 1: were also a way to protect working people's salaries and

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Speaker 1: healthcare and ability to stay safecause like a really dangerous

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Speaker 1: job and you can really hurt yourself and if you

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Speaker 1: don't have a union job, you can end up with nothing.

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Speaker 1: So talk us through how unions protect iron wars and

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Speaker 1: a little bit about how about you know how unions

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Speaker 1: in the Democratic Party.

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Speaker 9: Well, yeah, that's a story I really like to tell.

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Speaker 9: I have a lot of experience, and you know, I

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Speaker 9: want to make one thing known. I wasn't always a

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Speaker 9: union member. I got in the union at twenty seven

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Speaker 9: years old. Up until that point, you know, I started

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Speaker 9: in a machine shop. I went and worked in kitchens

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Speaker 9: with working factories, always looking for a better job until

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Speaker 9: I found that better job in the union.

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Speaker 10: And in my.

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Speaker 9: Personal life, it helped stabilize my family because I had

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Speaker 9: better wages and benefits and I was actually building a retirement,

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Speaker 9: something I never had prior to. But how unions, you know,

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Speaker 9: unions isn't just about making better pay and benefits. We

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Speaker 9: can come together and make sure that safety standards are held.

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Speaker 9: You know, iron working is always every year it's in

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Speaker 9: the top ten most dangerous jobs.

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Speaker 10: The accidents and incidents.

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Speaker 9: We have on our job sites are very serious injuries

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Speaker 9: typically related to those yeah and up unto and including

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Speaker 9: loss of life. Very very dangerous job. But you know

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Speaker 9: we're not acrobats by any mean. You know, we're not

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Speaker 9: We're not daredevils. Through the education process that we you know,

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Speaker 9: we train our members. The last five years, I've been

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Speaker 9: in instructor with my union where I'm training the next

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Speaker 9: generation to do the job safely, and we share knowledge

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Speaker 9: amongst each other.

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Speaker 10: You know, uh, it's a it's a real people.

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Speaker 9: In the Union, we are not afraid to share ideas.

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Speaker 9: In the non unear world, I might be reluctant to

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Speaker 9: share a tip that I have because somebody is going

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Speaker 9: to have an advantage over me, and we're workers are

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Speaker 9: in competition with each other. Whereas in the Union, we

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Speaker 9: I share the knowledge I have with my brothers and sisters,

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Speaker 9: so that way they know they can learn from what

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Speaker 9: I learned, and in that way, in that way, we

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Speaker 9: really help each other become more productive, safer on the job,

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Speaker 9: and really bring a high level of quality to our projects.

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Speaker 1: Do Republicans support unions some?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, there's some.

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Speaker 9: You know, I can think of probably three or four

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Speaker 9: elected Republicans in our area who support unions. You know,

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Speaker 9: they were union members themselves and they just happened to

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Speaker 9: see things a little bit differently for whatever reason.

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Speaker 1: But it's not the standard for Republicans. Right to work

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Speaker 1: has been a big.

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Speaker 10: Actually in Ohio.

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Speaker 9: Ohio, I think it was I'm thinking a little far

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Speaker 9: back here. I think it was twenty eleven or twenty twelve,

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Speaker 9: somewhere around there. We were in for a brief moment

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Speaker 9: in time a right to work state with Senate Bill

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Speaker 9: fob was championed by our governor at the time, John Kasik,

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Speaker 9: and the people by referendum beat that back by two

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Speaker 9: to one margin. And it just shows that people in Ohio,

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Speaker 9: even if you're not in the union, you and people

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Speaker 9: here understand that unions bring benefits to communities and and

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Speaker 9: Ohio is still a unionied state.

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Speaker 1: So let's talk about what your part of Ohio looks

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Speaker 1: like and how you are running for office there. So

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Speaker 1: it's gerrymandered in a way, that it could end up

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Speaker 1: being a dummymander, right, because it's not such a it's

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Speaker 1: not a you know, it's an R plus five. And

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Speaker 1: I'd love you to talk about what the what the

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Speaker 1: district looks like and how you're winning there.

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Speaker 9: Okay, So it includes parts of Cuyahoga County, the western

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Speaker 9: and southern suburbs of Cleveland. You know, the more northern

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Speaker 9: part is a kind of more affluent May Village, Westlake,

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Speaker 9: Rack of River area where I live in the southern

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Speaker 9: part of Cuyahoga County in brook Park.

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Speaker 10: That belt there is kind.

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Speaker 9: Of like traditionally, you know, it's a suburban, working class,

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Speaker 9: hard working people. And then it goes all the way

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Speaker 9: over to Seoul and soul In is a very diverse community,

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Speaker 9: manufacturing hub and you know, things like that.

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Speaker 10: But then they have we have Madina.

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Speaker 9: County, all of Madina County all at Ashland County, which

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Speaker 9: is new to the district. It used to be in

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Speaker 9: Jim Jordan's district. It's now new to our district. And

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Speaker 9: then we have the north half of Wayne County and

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Speaker 9: those are those three counties.

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Speaker 10: Are the more rural parts.

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Speaker 9: A lot of farming, some light manufacturing, just but good

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Speaker 9: people all the way around.

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Speaker 10: You know, that's one thing Ohio.

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Speaker 9: Is good for is good community members, even Republicans. You know,

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Speaker 9: the national politics is very, very divided. You got the

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Speaker 9: Republicans way over here, Democrats way over here, and they

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Speaker 9: can't agree with anything. But on the ground here in

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Speaker 9: our in our district, you know, it's just our neighbors

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Speaker 9: who may see things a little bit differently. And what

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Speaker 9: we're seeing in our campaign is people from all parts

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Speaker 9: of the district are really rallying behind me and uniting

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Speaker 9: behind me because I live these same issues they live,

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Speaker 9: and I'm going to go there to try to help

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Speaker 9: fix any all the issues we're facing, like the cough

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Speaker 9: things and the UH access to healthcare and you know,

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Speaker 9: social Security beyond the chopping block. Those are all things

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Speaker 9: that I'm really eager to fight for when I get

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Speaker 9: to Washington.

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Speaker 1: So when you talk to people in the district, what

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Speaker 1: do they say to you and do you feel like

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Speaker 1: they've sort of the Trump is that they've they've turned

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Speaker 1: on Republicans.

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Speaker 9: Well, they say to me that they're they're first off,

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Speaker 9: they're shocked that a union is running for Congress. I mean,

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Speaker 9: that doesn't happen every day somebody comes right out of

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Speaker 9: the workforce and and run for Congress. So that that

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Speaker 9: that gets people to take notice and they're excited. Uh

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Speaker 9: you know, I'm somebody they can get behind me because

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Speaker 9: I'm just like the guy next door to them, you know.

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Speaker 9: And uh so, so they're excited about that.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 9: They definitely all all parts of the political spectrum here

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Speaker 9: in this district are really filling the pinch of the

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Speaker 9: economy that's out of balance. And you know, Trump came

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Speaker 9: on seeing with the with the message of bringing manufacturing back.

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Speaker 9: You know, this is a traditionally strong manufacturing area. We

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Speaker 9: have steel mills in the area, we have auto plants.

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Speaker 9: So go to an age for workers. Right, We're gonna

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Speaker 9: we're gonna bring manufacturing in. We're gonna, you know, workers

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Speaker 9: will have it better than they ever have. And that

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Speaker 9: just has it come to be. And people are really frustrated.

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Speaker 9: They feel that he's broken some of his promises, like

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Speaker 9: no new wars. You know, now we're in Iran in

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Speaker 9: the reckless war that doesn't seem like there's any end

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Speaker 9: in sight. And uh and it's and it's putting a

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Speaker 9: further squeeze on people. We see it every day at

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Speaker 9: the pumps, we see it in the grocery store, and

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Speaker 9: people are really just frustrated that people in Washington aren't listening.

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Speaker 9: And I'm hoping to stand up and be a voice

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Speaker 9: that maybe they'll listen.

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Speaker 1: Now, do people you know, you have this governor's race

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Speaker 1: and you have a Senate race with shared do you

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Speaker 1: think people are like does the vag seem like he?

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Speaker 1: People are? Are there of a vague fans? Have you

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Speaker 1: met any? Is that a thing?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, there's there's a few here and there. I mean,

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Speaker 10: I'm you know, I'm he.

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Speaker 9: You know, people are gonna are gonna support who they support,

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Speaker 9: and you know that's the right we have in this country.

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Speaker 10: You're you're your vote is sacred.

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Speaker 9: And if somebody supports the VEC uh, that same person

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Speaker 9: might support me because of because of who I am

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Speaker 9: and what I'm running at and and I'm keeping the

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Speaker 9: door open to anybody who who wants to jump on

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Speaker 9: the team and fight for working families like I don't

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Speaker 9: care if you're a Republican Independent Democrat, if you want

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Speaker 9: to champion workers, I'm asking for your support.

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Speaker 1: Does Max Miller campaign a lot in the district.

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Speaker 9: I haven't, I haven't seen him in the district. I've

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Speaker 9: never met him personally. I don't know much about him

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Speaker 9: in his personal life other than.

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Speaker 10: What I've read.

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Speaker 1: Seen him in the district, I haven't.

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Speaker 9: I haven't seen him. I've seen him like he's he's

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Speaker 9: taking pictures of that place. Is I don't know how

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Speaker 9: much engagement he's doing with the community, you know, But

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Speaker 9: I'm not running my campaign on what he does. I

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Speaker 9: We're hitting as many events as we can, Like you know,

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Speaker 9: I'll be at the Cuyahoga County Fair today to make

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Speaker 9: sure I talk to as many people there as I can.

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Speaker 9: I've done I don't know a dozen parades. I've done

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Speaker 9: close to a dozen town halls at this point. I

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Speaker 9: do meet and greets all the time, and I really

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Speaker 9: just want to be out in the community talking to

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Speaker 9: as many people because the more people who know who

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Speaker 9: I am, the more support we end up getting.

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Speaker 1: So what just give me the like top concerns in

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Speaker 1: Ohio to photo.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, So that's we built our campaign around what I

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Speaker 9: call the Holy Trinity Fair Wages to combat affordability, because

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Speaker 9: you know, there's two ways of combat affordability. You can

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Speaker 9: reduce costs or you can increase wages. And we all

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Speaker 9: know how companies reduce costs, they take it out on

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Speaker 9: the workers. So I like to fight for better wages,

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Speaker 9: you know, bring the minimum wage up, support collective bargaining.

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Speaker 9: The second leg of the Holy Trinity is healthcare. Healthcare

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Speaker 9: is becoming more and more unaffordable and more and more

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Speaker 9: out of reach for too many people. So I'd like

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Speaker 9: to strengthen our healthcare system, especially like you take me

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Speaker 9: Diana County. Uh, they don't even have a birthing center

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Speaker 9: in the entire county, so you're seeing, you know, babies

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Speaker 9: born in emergency rooms or in the ambulance on the

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Speaker 9: way to the birthing center.

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Speaker 10: Got to get that under control.

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Speaker 9: And then third is uh, the third leg of the

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Speaker 9: Holy Trinity is the retire with dignity. Social Security is

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Speaker 9: on the chopping block again.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 9: They're projecting twenty five percent cuts to those who are

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Speaker 9: already receiving benefits. And UH, I think that we as

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Speaker 9: Congress should take those three as the top priority. None

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Speaker 9: of those items are partisan. You know, there's bipartians to

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Speaker 9: support for lifting the capitinal sol security. The state Senator

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Speaker 9: Bernie Marino here Republican here in Ohio. The United States

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Speaker 9: Senator Bernie Marino he uh he, just a couple of

779
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Speaker 9: weeks ago said he wants to join up with the

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Speaker 9: Elizabeth Warren to raise the capitin social Security you know

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Speaker 9: what you take, Like that would be extremely impactful here,

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Speaker 9: like in this district because like like say my Dinah County,

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Speaker 9: but down in counties, almost a third of their income

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Speaker 9: is Social Security benefits and if they take a cut,

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Speaker 9: I mean, that's a huge that's a huge pullback from

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Speaker 9: their economy and it's going to really hurt people. So

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Speaker 9: but but the Holy Trinity are things that I fought

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Speaker 9: for my entire life as a worker, as a union member.

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Speaker 9: I've been on the front lines fighting for those things,

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Speaker 9: and those are things that the working families in this

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Speaker 9: district and across this country need the most.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really good point. Brian. Just tell me

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Speaker 1: one last question. How is iron what different from running

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Speaker 1: for Congress and how is it the same?

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Speaker 9: Well, it's different because it's a very labor intensive workout

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Speaker 9: and elements you know, work at heights, very dangerous, but

797
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Speaker 9: it's it's the same and you know, you have to

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Speaker 9: be cool under pressure, you know, if you get in

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Speaker 9: a bad situation. And in iron working, and you you

800
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Speaker 9: if you panic, almost like a person drowning. If you

801
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Speaker 9: know they start panicking, now you the person rescuing you,

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Speaker 9: is that you're gonna drawn them too. Right, So mom

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Speaker 9: and up on the high steel And I get in

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Speaker 9: a bad situation, I got to keep my cool, kind

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Speaker 9: of think my way out of it. And and that way,

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Speaker 9: it's very similar to running for Congress because I get

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Speaker 9: a lot of tough questions, I get things thrown at

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Speaker 9: me at a million miles an hour. I got to

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Speaker 9: maintain my cool demeanor, think about what I'm going to say,

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Speaker 9: because my word matter. That's something politicians have forgotten, that

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Speaker 9: your word means something and and and deliver it in

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Speaker 9: a way that is under control and precise and I

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Speaker 9: want to That's that's how they're similar. You know, running

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Speaker 9: for congress are similar to being an ironworker.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, You're not the first opera running for Congress that

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Speaker 1: I've interviewed. You know that, right, Yeah, because I've interviewed Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so Randy iron Stack some.

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Speaker 10: Of an inspiration for me.

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Speaker 9: That was a few years ago, long before I even

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Speaker 9: thought that I would ever have a chance to run

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Speaker 9: for Congress or even wanted to for that matter, but

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Speaker 9: to see an inworker step up and run. And I

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Speaker 9: know Randy Brice, uh, he ran, but he's not the

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Speaker 9: first ironworker in Congress.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Representative Stephen Lynch and Massachusetts is a is an ironworker

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Speaker 9: and had a good conversation with him about being a

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Speaker 9: union brother and running for Congress and would love to

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Speaker 9: join them in Congress.

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Speaker 1: Brian, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 9: No my pleasure. Thank you for having me. And my

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Speaker 9: campaign is about keeping the door open. So if you

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Speaker 9: want to get a follow up update, feel free to

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Speaker 9: reach out. But you're people listening to this podcast or

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Speaker 9: watching it, they can they can go to pointers dot

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Speaker 9: com to learn more about me and UH and support

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Speaker 9: in any.

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Speaker 10: Way they can.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Brian.

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Speaker 10: Thanks Molly Tucson.

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Speaker 1: No moment, Wick Willson, what is your moment of fuck?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 7: My moment of fucker is the greatest single investment opportunity

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Speaker 7: for Americans that I think they've ever had, and that

845
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Speaker 7: is to put their hard earned money in these difficult

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Speaker 7: economic times into a safe and secure institution called the

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Speaker 7: Trump Bank. We saw this week and Trump got special

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Speaker 7: regulatory approvals to start.

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Speaker 4: The Trump Bank.

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Speaker 7: Folks, if you are really investing in the putting your

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Speaker 7: money in the Trump bank, FDI se aside, take your money,

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Speaker 7: get it out of your bank, first pilot in the kitchen,

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Speaker 7: set it on fire. The Trump bank, Trump bank. My god,

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Speaker 7: what are people thinking?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, we have a lot. This is not no

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Speaker 1: Trump banks, no, no, no.

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Speaker 7: I promise you the same people that have already been

858
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Speaker 7: rug pulled on Trump Crypto, who got ripped off on

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Speaker 7: Trump University, who bought Trump steaks, who bought Trump vitamins,

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Speaker 7: who bought Trump vodka, who buy Trump wine.

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Speaker 4: Are all going to the same people.

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Speaker 7: You'll get ripped off because he definitely won't steal from

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Speaker 7: him this time.

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Speaker 4: It's totally is that is surprise there. That is really bad.

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