WEBVTT - Hair Empire Founder Chaz Dean Knew WEN To Trust His Gut

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to I Choose Me with Jenny Girl. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to I Choose Me, the podcast about learning to choose yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I am sitting across from someone who has run his

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<v Speaker 1>fingers through my hair for a good part of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years now. To twenty years, Chaz Zine has seen me

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<v Speaker 1>at my absolute best and my absolute worst, sometimes on

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<v Speaker 1>the same day. And Chazz is the founder of When Haircare.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a QBC superman and hairstylist to the stars. I

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<v Speaker 1>cannot wait to share with you the reason for so

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<v Speaker 1>many of my good hair days. Chazz Dean, Chassy Dean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're here, I'm here. Well, we've been trying to make

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<v Speaker 1>this happen for a while now, and I'm just so

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<v Speaker 1>happy that you're here at my house and you are

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, You're just You're just the best.

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<v Speaker 2>We go back, we go back. Oh so back, mm hmmm,

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<v Speaker 2>so back.

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<v Speaker 1>So back that it's you. You did the hair on

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<v Speaker 1>us gals, Yeah, the nine two o gals. Yeah, back

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, to you and for you and Tori, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you say, and you don't have to.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you're in the same age realm?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Reason I know this is because I went to

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<v Speaker 2>her twenty first birthday at the House of Blue, as

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<v Speaker 2>you remember, so I know I was doing your hair

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<v Speaker 2>prior to that. That's the crazy part.

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<v Speaker 1>So we don't know, we don't even know exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>No, so before you were before you were twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>so you're probably nineteen or twenty when I started doing

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<v Speaker 2>your hair, which is great.

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<v Speaker 1>It hasn't been that long because I'm only twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, say thirty one, you are older. I was just

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<v Speaker 2>a little two years older.

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<v Speaker 1>Then back then, Oh my gosh, Well it just feels

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<v Speaker 1>like we never lost ways because we kind of parted.

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<v Speaker 1>What you did your thing, I did my thing. We

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<v Speaker 1>didn't see each other for many years, and then QB

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<v Speaker 1>happened reunited us.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that crazy?

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<v Speaker 1>It's the best. Okay, First of all, you walked in

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<v Speaker 1>here with a gift for Dottie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're new.

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<v Speaker 1>When by kasdine win pet's luxury pet.

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<v Speaker 2>Beds, she's like the sleeping I can't even.

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<v Speaker 1>See her in there.

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<v Speaker 2>She's in a fort she's in her own What is

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<v Speaker 2>that fortress over there?

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<v Speaker 1>That is gorgeous. I love the color, it's so perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you got this small latte.

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<v Speaker 1>We love the animals, don't we.

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<v Speaker 2>My I just literally because we just got them last week.

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<v Speaker 2>So I literally just put the large ones. And my

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<v Speaker 2>boys still sleep in their crates because it lets them

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<v Speaker 2>rest and sleep. If they're out, they're always you right now,

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<v Speaker 2>they're always going. So when it's time for them to sleep,

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<v Speaker 2>they're in their crate. So I put the large one

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<v Speaker 2>in their crate and they it's like cocoon them. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like this. They're just the happiest and it just went

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<v Speaker 2>I just said yesterday because they've had He's in there,

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<v Speaker 2>pats in them, but they actually have their faux fur

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<v Speaker 2>they do in there, and I will start posting because

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<v Speaker 2>just to watch them lay in it, it's like they're

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<v Speaker 2>being hugged by it. It's they're so happy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the getting the dogs are getting a hug from chasdine.

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<v Speaker 1>Who wouldn't want that for their pooch. You guys got

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<v Speaker 1>to check it out for sure, because it's really cute.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had the people climb in them too, just so

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<v Speaker 2>you know. Everyone that's got there so far said the

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<v Speaker 2>first end is got in them with my dog.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, do you think I'll fit in that one,

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<v Speaker 1>not that one.

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<v Speaker 2>We can get in with the large. Well, you need

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<v Speaker 2>your medium a large. The large one is like a

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<v Speaker 2>better upgraded version of bean bagshairs. Think of it that way.

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<v Speaker 1>It is gorgeous. Well, thank you for that. You just

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about when a little bit first,

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<v Speaker 1>because where we see you built this incredible business, this brand,

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<v Speaker 1>and you were a newbie in town. You were nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>working at a salon and you were innovating even then.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for other people, imagine that.

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<v Speaker 1>With a concept, right and you that's where you first

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<v Speaker 1>came up with your cleansing conditioner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was out of a product I created for

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<v Speaker 2>another company, which is the Sexy Concept, Big Sexy Hair.

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<v Speaker 2>I created their first ever three products and they're worldwide

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<v Speaker 2>billionaires now, yes, but I created their first three products

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<v Speaker 2>for them. And it's when I purchased the salon that

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, why am I using shampoo? Because it kept

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<v Speaker 2>stripping the hair. I knew that I kept I think

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<v Speaker 2>you remember, no, because I found you. Once I gave

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<v Speaker 2>it up. I started adding vegetable color to the shampoo,

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<v Speaker 2>think it would help the color stay. It didn't work

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<v Speaker 2>so well. Added to the shampoo and the conditioner, but

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<v Speaker 2>I knew the shampoo was stripping us. I'm like, how

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<v Speaker 2>do I clean the hair and eliminate that. That's where

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<v Speaker 2>it all started. Remember I used to mix you guys

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<v Speaker 2>bottles and send you home with.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you said that shampoo is like a harsh detergent

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<v Speaker 1>stripping our hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Of all that was like your clothes and how you

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<v Speaker 2>strip your clothes and they lose, They lose elasticity, the

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<v Speaker 2>color phades, They start to fray and fall apart because

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<v Speaker 2>it's so harsh. I think, I know you know this

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<v Speaker 2>about me. I washed my clothes. I cleansed my clothes,

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<v Speaker 2>and when I really do, wait a second, it really

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<v Speaker 2>too And I watched my dog bes and when no

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<v Speaker 2>put it in the washing machine, you mix it. You

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<v Speaker 2>dilute it first. You dilute it first, just like think

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<v Speaker 2>of it as a concentrate. I mix it in the

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<v Speaker 2>wind pet poddles. Because of the wind pet poddles. You

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<v Speaker 2>put the cleansing conditioner in there, put water in there,

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<v Speaker 2>shake it up to it. It's more I liquified and multified,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I just add that to a washing machine.

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<v Speaker 2>I usually do lavender, sometimes teachery, but lavender is so

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<v Speaker 2>good and so calming. Oh my gosh, Yeah, it's real.

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<v Speaker 1>You have all the flavors.

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<v Speaker 2>It's real.

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<v Speaker 1>We couldn't even wouldn't have time to list all the

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<v Speaker 1>flavors you've developed over the years. But I think that

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so impressive, Like I find your story so impressive,

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<v Speaker 1>especially now revisiting you and seeing what you've done since

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<v Speaker 1>we were our friendship was interrupted by whatever time. But

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<v Speaker 1>I just think it's so incredible that you have built

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<v Speaker 1>this business you have after you bought that first salon

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<v Speaker 1>at nineteen. First of all, how did you do that?

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<v Speaker 2>How did you.

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<v Speaker 1>Buy a salon at nineteen? Did you have people supporting you,

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<v Speaker 1>helping you, encouraging you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here's the deal. Here's how it worked. I was

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<v Speaker 2>lucky on one part. My brother when we were he

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<v Speaker 2>was a teenager, I had aunts and uncles that lived

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<v Speaker 2>in Hong Kong. So my grandparents took my brother on

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<v Speaker 2>that trip and we I was next in line and

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<v Speaker 2>then my sister. We were supposed to go, but it

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<v Speaker 2>never happened. So when this opportunity came up, my grandfather says,

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<v Speaker 2>here's what I'm minute to do. Since you didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>to go to Hong Kong. I'm going to give you

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<v Speaker 2>the money that for the you would have if you

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<v Speaker 2>had gotten to go on that. So that's how it was,

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<v Speaker 2>honestly a trade out, a trade out. I didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>to Hong Kong. I got my salt.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a business.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got a business. And then I borrowed money

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<v Speaker 2>from my parents, but they didn't have we didn't come

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<v Speaker 2>from money. I paid that back and so forth. They

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<v Speaker 2>trusted me a reliable son, so I paid those back

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't have any money, so I maxed out

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<v Speaker 2>credit cards just to renovate the space. And it wasn't major.

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<v Speaker 2>It just made it feel a little more homelike. And

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<v Speaker 2>was this the one in Beverly Hill Gun Center and

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<v Speaker 2>the center?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I love that spot. And then you purchased what

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<v Speaker 1>has become your forever home. Chas Deine Studios started out

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<v Speaker 1>as one bungalow and now it's six. You guys, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to you have to go there. It's six beautiful bungalows.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like you stepped into a little village. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a hair spa, day spa. You never want to leave spa.

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<v Speaker 2>You just aha moment me because the reason what catalyzed

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<v Speaker 2>me to do that is you remember the Star and

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<v Speaker 2>inquire and all those magazines. Yeah, what made me actually

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<v Speaker 2>do and this is a real and I don't talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this barely. What made me do it is Torri

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<v Speaker 2>was in my chair one day and she ordered pizza.

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<v Speaker 2>She was eating pizza and I was highlighting her hair

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<v Speaker 2>and she was on the cover of the Star Inquirer saying, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>toy's not natural blanc. I'm like, she never pretended to be,

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<v Speaker 2>but it felt so violating and I knew I potentially

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<v Speaker 2>would lose her as a client because she's in my

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<v Speaker 2>chair at my salon. Because they used to drive by you.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you remember, drive by the windows

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<v Speaker 2>slowly and tech do a click click click, because the

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<v Speaker 2>Glen Center was a safe haven generally. When they discovered

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<v Speaker 2>that a lot of celebs were hanging out and going

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<v Speaker 2>there because it was a safe haven, they started to

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<v Speaker 2>exploit that. Because Warren Baty used to be up to

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<v Speaker 2>your member's offices were there, there were in that bending.

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<v Speaker 2>There were so many people that would go up there.

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<v Speaker 2>And once they discover it and they started exposing it,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew I'm going to start losing these guy, I

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<v Speaker 2>had the Gretzky's. I had so many people up there,

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<v Speaker 2>e Er, Juliana, Margyliz. But my point is if they

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<v Speaker 2>don't feel like they can come there and let their

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<v Speaker 2>guard down and feel safe, I'm going to lose those people.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what made me move from an exclusive neighborhood

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<v Speaker 2>in bel Air to Hollywood. When I moved to Hollywood

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<v Speaker 2>is not what it is now, though it was dirty.

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<v Speaker 2>It was before Hollywood and Highland before that was all random. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was before that, and people thought I was insane.

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<v Speaker 2>You're leaving one of the richest neighborhoods in California to

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<v Speaker 2>go to Hollywood, which was like crack Alley. Then yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember going to my intuition.

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<v Speaker 1>That's incredible though, what I mean people were calling you

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<v Speaker 1>crazy and saying you should definitely not move to this location.

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<v Speaker 1>But you knew in your gut. Have you always been

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<v Speaker 1>a person that listens.

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<v Speaker 2>To the because I don't question it. I'm just like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what it is. It's just imagine like

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<v Speaker 2>a string being there and something pulling you towards it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm not going to question it. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to trust it. Even though when everyone around me is like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're crazy, what are you doing, I'm like, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I'm trusting my intuition.

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<v Speaker 1>That is so admirable because you were really young.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was really.

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<v Speaker 1>Because a lot of people. Yeah, a lot of people listening.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they have had these little inklings do brave things

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<v Speaker 1>like that, but then they everyone them. Everyone talks you

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<v Speaker 1>out of it.

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<v Speaker 2>The other part that's important is my mom. Today's today's

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<v Speaker 2>my my mom and dad both passed away. My mom

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five years ago, my dad five years ago. Today

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<v Speaker 2>is their wedding anniversary. So when you book this day,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh my gosh, it's that's why this light

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<v Speaker 2>going on off. I feel like it's them. I really

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<v Speaker 2>think they're like, I'm here with you. It's their wedding anniversary.

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<v Speaker 2>They were together. They were together since high school until

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<v Speaker 2>my mom passed away of cancer and my dad five

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. So my mom would always be worried and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Mom, I just knew this. As a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>I would always say, mom, Leah, we grew up with cats,

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<v Speaker 2>and when you take a cat and you drop it

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<v Speaker 2>upside down, they always flip over. And as kids, you

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<v Speaker 2>think that's fascinating or whatnot. You I don't know if you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know that, is that true?

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<v Speaker 2>If you do it on a bed to make sure,

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<v Speaker 2>but you hold them upside down and they always flip over.

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<v Speaker 2>At least I knew that as a kid. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>that My cats.

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<v Speaker 1>Are known to always slam on their.

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<v Speaker 2>Feet, lamb on their feet, and I always told her that,

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<v Speaker 2>my mom, I'm a leo, I'm a cat. Then she

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<v Speaker 2>would always scratch my back and I'd be like a cat,

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<v Speaker 2>like don't stop, don't stop. So I would remind her,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a leo. I will always let to my feet.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's not this, I'll do that. If it's not that,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do that. She always worried, And I'm like, I

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<v Speaker 2>have photography. If it's not photography, it'll be here. If

0:11:13.640 --> 0:11:15.560
<v Speaker 2>it's not here, it'll be makeup. It's not this, I

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<v Speaker 2>will always land on something. But she always worried for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you don't have to. The blessing in this

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<v Speaker 2>is as you're asking about when she knew my vision,

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<v Speaker 2>because it was nineteen ninety three in my vision. She

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<v Speaker 2>was diagnosed in ninety six. She passed away in two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and one. So it took me all that time

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<v Speaker 2>to launch it in November of two thousand, so just

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<v Speaker 2>just three months before she passed away, I launched it

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<v Speaker 2>so she was able to see my dream start in unfold,

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<v Speaker 2>which is it's a lot. And I know she's been

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<v Speaker 2>with me through the journey and whatnot. And I tell

0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.200
<v Speaker 2>people like I know people that just lost their mom, like,

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<v Speaker 2>just see them around you. They are now. And I

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<v Speaker 2>learned this. She knew what she knew of me from

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<v Speaker 2>what I let in when she passed away. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>my brother passed four years before her freak accident. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if you know this. In September thirteenth and

0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:11.440
<v Speaker 2>ninety seven when we had El Nino, he saved a

0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:14.280
<v Speaker 2>thirteen year old boycott and rip tie at Carlsbad State Beach.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've never been there, but I've meet so many

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<v Speaker 2>people from Carlsbad. I'm like, I lost my brother lost

0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:23.360
<v Speaker 2>his life there. So he before her, Yeah, he died

0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:26.559
<v Speaker 2>a hero. And she had been diagnosed with her cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember as a child her telling us when

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<v Speaker 2>we were in Pennsylvania, so I was probably ten eleven twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember being on drives and I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>started the conversation. I remember her saying, oh, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>because we were going to relative funerals. And I remember

0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.120
<v Speaker 2>her saying that she prayed to God none of her

0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:47.040
<v Speaker 2>kids ever went before her, Oh my gosh, because she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know if she'd be able to handle that. And

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<v Speaker 2>I remember I had to be the one to tell her.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is before cell phones, and I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 2>to name, but Paula was my client, Paul Abdul with

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<v Speaker 2>my client time. Many people didn't have cell phones in

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<v Speaker 2>ninety seven, but she had one. And when I found

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<v Speaker 2>out that he had passed, she was there. She literally

0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:09.600
<v Speaker 2>gave me her cell phone because didn't have cel phone.

0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:11.839
<v Speaker 2>We had pagers maybe, but she gave me her cell

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<v Speaker 2>phone because my parents were out in see Me Valley

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<v Speaker 2>and I had to go out there and be the

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<v Speaker 2>person to let my mom know that her son had passed.

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<v Speaker 2>She had been diagnosed with cancer a year and a

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<v Speaker 2>half at that point and going through treatment. And I

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<v Speaker 2>remember when I didn't plan to go here, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know where we were going today, but when I was

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<v Speaker 2>one to tell her because I knew she had said

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<v Speaker 2>she'd hope none of us ever went before her. She

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know she could handle it. When I told her,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember, it was like a well the sound that

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<v Speaker 2>came out of her. No, I didn't like and hear

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<v Speaker 2>it to this day it should have been me. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, don't say that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was a traumatic day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And when her time came, I just reminded her

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<v Speaker 2>that you're going to be with Jimmy again. You'll get

0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.720
<v Speaker 2>to see Jimmy again. You'll be united with Jimmy, and

0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.640
<v Speaker 2>you fall along in her and it's okay, We'll be okay.

0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.480
<v Speaker 2>So my point in that is is when she passed,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that he has shown me signs, so I

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<v Speaker 2>knew that she would be around me. I knew that

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<v Speaker 2>because he had shown me that you had already thought that.

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<v Speaker 2>So thank god, I was prepared somewhat because I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>just I became spiritual. I had to know that there

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<v Speaker 2>had to be something go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I mean, I had that same experience, like you

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<v Speaker 1>can't really feel it until you've been seeing very close,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, you go through all the stages of.

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<v Speaker 2>Grief of what is after this and yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then then you get them back in the most beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're open, if you see it, and my brother did.

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<v Speaker 2>He did it right away. It was up in the

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<v Speaker 2>Glen Center and birds flying in the salon, and I

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<v Speaker 2>knew because you know, you know me, those doors were

0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:46.440
<v Speaker 2>always open. I spent years and you remember that. So

0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.080
<v Speaker 2>I saw the sign. So when my mom passed, it

0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.800
<v Speaker 2>was the same thing. I realized that she knew as

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<v Speaker 2>much about me as I shared with her. But now

0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.080
<v Speaker 2>she knows everything about me. And I really one hundred

0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.680
<v Speaker 2>percent believe that that she's omnipresent in my life. She

0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:03.800
<v Speaker 2>sees things you might not even want to. You know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean in the shower is that they everything.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm being serious. They're omnipresent everywhere around you. Whereas

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<v Speaker 2>before when she was here, it's like, oh, I forgot

0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:15.640
<v Speaker 2>to share this with her. I forgot to tell her that,

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<v Speaker 2>But they are so if that helps give people peace

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<v Speaker 2>of mind, it's what I believe. And in middle school

0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:26.360
<v Speaker 2>we learn that you can't destroy energy. It just changes forms.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, we talk about it before. I've talked about it

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<v Speaker 1>before with other people who've gone through it, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is the same thing that I hear over and over

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<v Speaker 1>is what you're experiencing what I've experienced and what I

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<v Speaker 1>like to tell people who've just lost someone when they're

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<v Speaker 1>ready to hear things. You know that this is the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity for you to have a whole new relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>this person, which is really beautiful, so true, very hard

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<v Speaker 1>to handle, but it's also very real. Yes back too,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how we got there, but with landing

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<v Speaker 2>on my feet.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen to your intuition, knowing that this West Hollywood, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not even West hollywo it's Hollywood location. Was the home

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<v Speaker 1>and now it is. It's basically the half the block.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that it's honestly the whole block except one home.

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<v Speaker 2>And they've been there since the sixties, which is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're not they're not selling.

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<v Speaker 2>Not yet. She said, to let me know when it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I know where B two is. There's B one, B two,

0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.080
<v Speaker 2>B three when I purchased B two and B three,

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<v Speaker 2>which are the other bungalows the salons. When I first

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<v Speaker 2>did that, I hadn't intended. It was the day I

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<v Speaker 2>went and got my variants, meaning I could use it

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<v Speaker 2>as a salon. I don't know if you know this.

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<v Speaker 2>It used to be a film editing studio really, the

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<v Speaker 2>one Bungalow, the one, the main one was a film

0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:51.760
<v Speaker 2>editing studio and Rob Reiner edited every one of his

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<v Speaker 2>films there. In Quentin Tarantino question, was edited there? A

0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:56.720
<v Speaker 2>sure thing was.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got some good Hollywood vibes in there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've had people, We've met people that are now

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<v Speaker 2>our clients that their cousin lived upstairs in what was

0:17:05.440 --> 0:17:07.959
<v Speaker 2>my office, and then someone else that lived there. So

0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.800
<v Speaker 2>I we just had a client that was just in recently,

0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:13.480
<v Speaker 2>and they were just random people that come like she, oh,

0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:15.600
<v Speaker 2>she used to work there. She worked for the filmating studio.

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<v Speaker 2>This was just like last month. So to have that history,

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<v Speaker 2>because the buildings are around five years old, Yeah, they're

0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:24.840
<v Speaker 2>from nineteen twenty one. So to have that history is really.

0:17:24.760 --> 0:17:29.280
<v Speaker 1>It's really really cool. Did you have did chas Dein have?

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like this was easy for you, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know it wasn't, and I want to never I want

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<v Speaker 1>to ask you about like when you face obstacles, when

0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:41.120
<v Speaker 1>you face the challenges, because I'm sure they started coming

0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:44.440
<v Speaker 1>at you right away, how did you handle them?

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<v Speaker 2>You just it's a part of the life. Thing you control,

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<v Speaker 2>the things you can, and you have to accept the

0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:53.040
<v Speaker 2>things you can't. And I remember my sister even saying

0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:55.239
<v Speaker 2>the better kids when they're growing up, She's like, you know,

0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:57.240
<v Speaker 2>is it a moral issue or not. If it's not

0:17:57.240 --> 0:18:00.639
<v Speaker 2>a moral you'll deal with it and move on. It's

0:18:00.680 --> 0:18:03.479
<v Speaker 2>the same sort of element. If it's something I can control,

0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:06.479
<v Speaker 2>then you know I'm going to fix it, adjust to

0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:09.000
<v Speaker 2>control it. If I can't, I have to see the

0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:11.560
<v Speaker 2>best light of it, and how can I overcome this?

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<v Speaker 2>So those happen regularly. I hate saying on a daily no,

0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.119
<v Speaker 2>that's business. Yeah, problem with how the how the business

0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:23.320
<v Speaker 2>has grown. It's like it's literally wake up and I

0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:25.280
<v Speaker 2>don't even like saying anymore now knowing and I have

0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:27.680
<v Speaker 2>this thing that we call it what's our blessing for today?

0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:29.760
<v Speaker 2>It's like, look at us a blessing and turn it

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<v Speaker 2>into instead of oh my gosh, like, okay, show me

0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.919
<v Speaker 2>my lesson in this. And it's really hard to do.

0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Your schedule is packed, and it can be overwhelming and

0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:42.560
<v Speaker 1>daunting and become something that is like a grind.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it had gotten to it's been since COVID. It's

0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:48.359
<v Speaker 2>gotten the point where you're like you're almost afraid to

0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:50.080
<v Speaker 2>wake up and look at your phone or your emails

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<v Speaker 2>because you're like, what today, And I don't want to

0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.160
<v Speaker 2>have that mindset. So we're trying to turn it over. Okay,

0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:58.080
<v Speaker 2>what blessings we have coming today, and we're calling them

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<v Speaker 2>back because there's got to be a blessing behind your

0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:03.200
<v Speaker 2>in Somewhere's how I'm trying to see if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>You just said something about your transformation. What did you mean?

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<v Speaker 2>My spiritual guidance was if you remember Reverend Dela re

0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:13.320
<v Speaker 2>Slam touch by an angel for twenty five years, she

0:19:13.440 --> 0:19:16.480
<v Speaker 2>was my minister and she became we became friends, close

0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.960
<v Speaker 2>friends before she passed away, which was in twenty seventeen,

0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:24.360
<v Speaker 2>so wow, almost nine years ago. She molded and shaped

0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:26.879
<v Speaker 2>and helped me grow into who I am today. One

0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:29.840
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent believe that. But it was she taught her

0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:33.840
<v Speaker 2>lessons from her living the lessons as well. She would

0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:35.280
<v Speaker 2>tell you her life and I've been this and that,

0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:37.600
<v Speaker 2>and this has happened, and that happened. Here's what I did,

0:19:37.640 --> 0:19:40.359
<v Speaker 2>and you've got to find the blessing in it. So

0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.399
<v Speaker 2>it's going back to that. They just honored me, like

0:19:43.680 --> 0:19:46.320
<v Speaker 2>a couple months I saw that I got honored, and

0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:49.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't go as often because it's different. It's like

0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:54.560
<v Speaker 2>she was, she was part of me, do you get

0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:56.920
<v Speaker 2>what I mean? And it's different, it's not the same.

0:19:56.960 --> 0:19:58.960
<v Speaker 2>So it makes it a little harder because she's not there.

0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:02.200
<v Speaker 2>So it makes it harder. So I still practice my spirituality,

0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:04.680
<v Speaker 2>it's just in my own realm, if that makes sense.

0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:07.399
<v Speaker 2>So went back to it. So many of the people

0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:10.000
<v Speaker 2>that when I used to go were there and from

0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:12.399
<v Speaker 2>out of state and out of the country, ministers and

0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.919
<v Speaker 2>so forth, and it just did bring it back of

0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:18.120
<v Speaker 2>the message of like what is my blessing in here?

0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:20.639
<v Speaker 2>Instead of why is this happening to me? It's like

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<v Speaker 2>show me my blessing? What is my blessing? And you

0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:25.520
<v Speaker 2>kind of have to because there's so many there are

0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:27.280
<v Speaker 2>so many obstacles, and that what I was saying is

0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:31.159
<v Speaker 2>since COVID, the obstacles have gotten much crazier. They really have.

0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:32.560
<v Speaker 2>So I don't want.

0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:35.000
<v Speaker 1>To talk about it, but I know that, like I

0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:37.000
<v Speaker 1>know that there has been some legal stuff in your

0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:39.560
<v Speaker 1>background with the brand that you've had to deal with,

0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:41.760
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure was really tough eleven years ago, believe

0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:45.160
<v Speaker 1>it or by the way, if anybody's listening, going, why

0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:49.200
<v Speaker 1>does he know every date? Chaz knows every date of

0:20:49.280 --> 0:20:52.639
<v Speaker 1>everything that ever happened to him and to you, so crazy,

0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:57.720
<v Speaker 1>He yes, like this memory of numbers, Yes, you're magical.

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<v Speaker 2>I just found out. We just GVC thing. Take us

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<v Speaker 2>back to I just spoke to it, and I believe

0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:06.920
<v Speaker 2>because if you notice the thirteen, my mom is six thirteen,

0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:10.000
<v Speaker 2>my brother was nine thirteen. It's like thirteenth. I've closed

0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:13.760
<v Speaker 2>escrow at the Slawn on June thirteenth of ninety seven,

0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:16.160
<v Speaker 2>on a Friday thirteenth. I just found out today because

0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:18.560
<v Speaker 2>we spokes are a buyer. And she goes, I believe

0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:21.520
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna have your TSB on November thirteenth, and it's

0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:23.200
<v Speaker 2>a Friday the thirteenth. I'm like, oh my god, that

0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:25.760
<v Speaker 2>is the best stuff for me because it connects all that.

0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:29.440
<v Speaker 2>So having said that, yes, my numbers are and then

0:21:29.520 --> 0:21:31.320
<v Speaker 2>she knows that I closed ESCO on this slaon on

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<v Speaker 2>June thirteenth, she goes, that can be part of your story.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you don't even know. And it doesn't mean

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<v Speaker 2>it's all good things like my brother passing. No, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not a good thing, but it's still a prevalent, something

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<v Speaker 2>significant significant. I closed escrow up my house when I

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<v Speaker 2>moved out this lawn in Los Felis area on June

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<v Speaker 2>thirteenth as well. You can't make those things happen.

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<v Speaker 1>No, really, that's like serendipitous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. When she said, oh, and it's my buyer's birthday

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<v Speaker 2>is that day? November thirteenth is a Friday thirteenth, and

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<v Speaker 2>she says they're birthday, I'm like, good, because it's great

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<v Speaker 2>luck for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's take it. Let's do this.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so beaking of a number of person, I

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<v Speaker 2>am that person. I don't know why. It's just I've

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<v Speaker 2>always been numbers, you know, with your color and all

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<v Speaker 2>that numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>doubted himself? Have you ever had limiting beliefs about you

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<v Speaker 1>or what you can do? Because I talk about imposter

0:23:08.280 --> 0:23:10.720
<v Speaker 1>syndrome sometimes I've had it, and a lot of people

0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 1>experience it, and so many people experience limiting thoughts. Maybe

0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:17.920
<v Speaker 1>not beliefs, but just those thoughts that keep us from

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<v Speaker 1>reaching for the next great thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't. It's weird. I don't. I don't. You

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<v Speaker 2>know me too, I don't have those because what it

0:23:27.560 --> 0:23:29.520
<v Speaker 2>is is I know what works for me and doesn't.

0:23:29.560 --> 0:23:32.119
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not a mechanic and I'm not an electrician,

0:23:32.200 --> 0:23:34.320
<v Speaker 2>So if I pretended I was, that would be different.

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<v Speaker 2>So because I do things that I know, I can't

0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:41.959
<v Speaker 2>like the gardening of this construction. I love that remodeling.

0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I love that I do things that I'm passionate about.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, no, no, Maybe when I was in school

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<v Speaker 2>and classes that I didn't do good at, maybe does

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<v Speaker 2>that make sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, no, Differently yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't go down past I know, and that's not for

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<v Speaker 2>me or it's not going to work. And it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean it's easy. It's definitely not easy. It just means, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't doubt. If anything, I have to convince everyone around,

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<v Speaker 2>like the glansing industry or giving that up and no

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<v Speaker 2>flattering has no curly arens no heat that. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>more I stand behind what I believe and does that

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<v Speaker 2>make that makes sense?

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<v Speaker 1>It makes sense. But for some people it's not as

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<v Speaker 1>easy to weed out all the other voices that are

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<v Speaker 1>deterring them from reaching their goals.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to follow your passion. If you follow your passion,

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<v Speaker 2>not what someone else's passion is for you or what

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<v Speaker 2>they believe you should be doing, it makes it. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I tell I've done this with people when

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:40.439
<v Speaker 2>we go on, like years ago, went to rehob with

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<v Speaker 2>in this family, I'm like, you could tell they're miserable

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<v Speaker 2>and whatnot. I'm like, close your eyes. If you could

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:48.159
<v Speaker 2>do anything you want in life and you don't have

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:50.679
<v Speaker 2>to worry about the family, the kids, paying the bills,

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:53.080
<v Speaker 2>anything you want, don't take money out of the equation,

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<v Speaker 2>what would you do and this person was not doing

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<v Speaker 2>a job they liked. I can't remember what it was,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was just, you know, a nine to FIVEE.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, and he's like, I would be a chef.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, then that's what you should be doing. What

0:25:03.359 --> 0:25:05.520
<v Speaker 2>it is, and everyone knows what it is, but just

0:25:05.640 --> 0:25:08.640
<v Speaker 2>close your eyes and if money's not a factor, family's

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:11.399
<v Speaker 2>not paying bills, all that's removed from it. What would

0:25:11.440 --> 0:25:15.400
<v Speaker 2>you do? Everyone does know that it secretly lives within them,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you follow your passions, it doesn't mean it's

0:25:18.600 --> 0:25:19.920
<v Speaker 2>can be easy, but it's going to take you to

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<v Speaker 2>where your joy and your happiness is. That's for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>because that makes sense. Absolutely, we will do what people

0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:26.280
<v Speaker 2>tell them they should be doing, or what you.

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<v Speaker 1>Think, or what they signed up for in college, what

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<v Speaker 1>the parents do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what the parents want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And some people listening myself included, struggle to find what

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<v Speaker 1>it is that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Their passion by what that way in high school when

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 2>everyone was picking about this in school and as I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't fit into any of those pegs or boxes or

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<v Speaker 2>squares or whatnot, and I'm like, I felt like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not good at any of those things, or that doesn't

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:54.600
<v Speaker 2>speak to me. And then when I finally realized, like,

0:25:54.840 --> 0:25:58.080
<v Speaker 2>but I am photography. I love that. I'm like, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>realize you can make a career out of it. Not

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<v Speaker 2>so mine didn't fit in all the things they told

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<v Speaker 2>you you can be here, you can be here, you

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<v Speaker 2>can be photography wasn't one of those choices. It was

0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 2>hairstyling and all. Honestly, it wouldn't have been in there.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like I found my love for photography through

0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:14.760
<v Speaker 2>high school. I took it for two and a half years.

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:17.400
<v Speaker 2>I joke that I don't know how I graduated because

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<v Speaker 2>I cut most classes. I went to photography, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was my passion.

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<v Speaker 1>You do all your product photography. I love that because

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:27.439
<v Speaker 1>that's an art in itself, very detailed. Everything you do

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:32.199
<v Speaker 1>is beautiful and so curated and so thoughtful to maintain

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<v Speaker 1>the integrity at the park.

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<v Speaker 2>I learned that through photography. I have over seven hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty thousand photos on my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>I need coffee table one hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty thousand videos on my phone.

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<v Speaker 1>It's real, we need a photography like a coffee table

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<v Speaker 1>book from you.

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<v Speaker 2>I should do that because I've always wanted to.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny, I've always wanted to do that too. Let's

0:26:51.480 --> 0:26:54.920
<v Speaker 1>challenge ourselves and make it happen. You haven't used regular

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<v Speaker 1>shampoo in over twenty five years, not on yourself, or

0:26:57.520 --> 0:27:00.840
<v Speaker 1>your dogs, or your any of your client. Well, he

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:02.919
<v Speaker 1>just let his hair down, you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Since nineteen your locks, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell they are soft.

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<v Speaker 2>And I haven't colored my hair almost three years. This

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<v Speaker 2>is my natural.

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<v Speaker 1>Amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't colored since I already know August fifth of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three. I know that's yeah, August fifth, twenty

0:27:20.040 --> 0:27:22.119
<v Speaker 2>twenty three. It was last time I highlighted. And the

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 2>rest is it's just one. There's a natural.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 2>It's still a little I mean you are about three

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<v Speaker 2>hours ago.

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<v Speaker 1>You are the model for your lifestyle brand.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I haven't used leather, hair, faced body, and word

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<v Speaker 2>skin since May first and nineteen ninety three. That's the

0:27:38.680 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 2>day I opened this alone.

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<v Speaker 1>And that has been a message that you've been trying

0:27:41.840 --> 0:27:45.159
<v Speaker 1>to get across to people. Not that we don't need

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<v Speaker 1>no regular commercial shampoo and conditioner.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you shouldn't let alone, don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why tell us why we should?

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<v Speaker 2>It strips everything out of your hair, everything out of

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:58.199
<v Speaker 2>your hair, including your color, and even if you are natural,

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:00.439
<v Speaker 2>like mine is natural, but it's still with make it

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 2>to whar. My scalp is oily, My ends are dry

0:28:02.800 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 2>because it's robbing and stripping everything. The thing I tell

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 2>them to really think about is whatever products feel like

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:10.280
<v Speaker 2>on your hands, is what it's doing to your hair.

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<v Speaker 2>When I was an assistant and I used to before

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:15.560
<v Speaker 2>I help them create their products, we used to use

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:19.920
<v Speaker 2>a high end and it's still on the market, high

0:28:20.000 --> 0:28:23.320
<v Speaker 2>end brand and their shampoo and their conditioner, and I

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 2>would go home as an assistant and my cuticles will

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.640
<v Speaker 2>be cracking and bleeding. I would put asila, I'm sleep

0:28:28.640 --> 0:28:30.520
<v Speaker 2>with gloves on our socks on them, go back to

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 2>work the next day for it to happen again. It

0:28:32.359 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 2>was a vicious cycle. And I knew that all those

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:36.680
<v Speaker 2>chemicals are what we're doing it. And we would try

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 2>to wear gloves to cleanse people. But when it's with shampoo,

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 2>it's like it hurts because you're pulling on the air

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 2>as you're doing Like, I can't have you wear gloves.

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 2>So we weren't allowed to wear gloves when you shampooed

0:28:45.960 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 2>because it was pulling and tugging. I knew that that

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:53.120
<v Speaker 2>was happening. Then I saw the client's color fading, as

0:28:53.160 --> 0:28:55.040
<v Speaker 2>you know. And then I knew I was shampoo and

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 2>conditioning twice a day, fourteen times a week because I

0:28:57.480 --> 0:28:59.800
<v Speaker 2>was so oily Because every time you stripped your scalp,

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 2>body works over time to replanish it. So all those

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:05.120
<v Speaker 2>things I knew, I'm like, so how do I fix it?

0:29:05.880 --> 0:29:08.800
<v Speaker 2>And I know how to eliminate culprit, which was the shampoo.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, so many hair products when you think

0:29:11.320 --> 0:29:15.360
<v Speaker 1>about it, they smell like alcohol or perfume.

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Perfume is the other part, So perfume or alcohol. Yeah,

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 2>it's just so stripping on your air. So yeah, and

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 2>then you use conditioners just to get a calm through,

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 2>which weighs it down because it's all polymers, fillers, bind

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 2>and waxes to detangle it.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I first I love it when you talk fast,

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:33.800
<v Speaker 1>war when you talk, especially when you talk about products,

0:29:33.880 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>because you've said it so many times.

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<v Speaker 2>Waxes, it's like lines and tigers and.

0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>Bears ouch, and it takes me like five minutes to

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>figure out what you just said.

0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 2>Polymers, fillers, pillers, binders, and that's what's in. If you

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 2>reach it's water, and then all these things, so many

0:29:52.160 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 2>well water, all these chemicals and then all these things. Yeah, polymers, fillers,

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:58.719
<v Speaker 2>binders and wax It's true. And keep you say, I'm

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:01.320
<v Speaker 2>like power spilers, binding and waxes, al attigers and bears. O.

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<v Speaker 1>My, it's so funny because you do it all the time. Okay,

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>so why do you call it it? Win?

0:30:09.080 --> 0:30:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Because if you guys, when because you already know you

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 2>came to me. Nikolatte was my first celebrity. She sent

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Tory Nichola. Yeah, she was my first, and I thank

0:30:19.480 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 2>her and bless her for it. She's the same thing.

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 2>We speak again. We're friends. We've always made friends. But

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 2>she's out a maliboum and I don't see her that often,

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:28.600
<v Speaker 2>but she and I go back. She was on Notts

0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Landing when I met her. She was Paige and I

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:32.520
<v Speaker 2>used to have a crush on her. And when I

0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:34.400
<v Speaker 2>first got to her hair, like, are you gonna be okay? John,

0:30:34.400 --> 0:30:37.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, I'll be fine. But I think everyone

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:41.000
<v Speaker 2>had a crush and she was hot girl. But she

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 2>sent you, guys, and when I tell you, and she

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:45.719
<v Speaker 2>would tell She told Torri, Okay, you're going to go

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:47.320
<v Speaker 2>to him. He's going to get you off the bleach.

0:30:47.360 --> 0:30:50.080
<v Speaker 2>He's going to get you off the shampoo. Just trust him,

0:30:50.120 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 2>because we remember he trust him.

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:54.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's.

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.160
<v Speaker 2>Going to work. No, he doesn't know my hair, I

0:30:56.200 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 2>have fine hair, is not going to work. And also

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 2>that was it. You guys would leave me and I

0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 2>would say, They're like, okay, I'll try it, but I

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:06.160
<v Speaker 2>just don't know. I said, it's a whole new way

0:31:06.200 --> 0:31:08.840
<v Speaker 2>of looking at cleansing your hair. And most people think

0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 2>it's a backwards way. So I said that for years

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 2>it's a whole new way. It's a backwards way. Whole

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 2>new way. It's a backwards way. So when it came

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:19.080
<v Speaker 2>time to naming it, I knew I wanted a three

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 2>letter word because of you know how I am with

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 2>all numbers and all that stuff. I knew I wanted

0:31:23.280 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 2>a three letter word. I knew I wanted to have

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 2>meaning and I want to have a very zen feel

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:30.080
<v Speaker 2>to it. So I'm like, I always tell people it's

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 2>a new way of looking at cleansing your hair. So

0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:33.719
<v Speaker 2>I wrote new one a piece of paper and I

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:35.240
<v Speaker 2>held it in front of a mirror and I said,

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 2>new when new When I'm like, I like that a

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 2>new backwards way, so it all has meaning.

0:31:42.120 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's new when a new.

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Backwards way of doing it. In most people's eyes mine

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't, but most people thought it was a backwards way.

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:53.520
<v Speaker 1>You recommend not washing your hair for how many days?

0:31:54.560 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, lather ever with Okay, lather ever if you're cleansing

0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 2>with the cleansing conditioner. On all honesty. I have people

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 2>that do it twice a day because they work out

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 2>and whatnot. You'll never dry out from it. The more

0:32:06.640 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 2>you do it, the better of the results. So you can.

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 2>But what it is is you don't have to. I

0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 2>went from literally fourteen times a week twice a day.

0:32:14.960 --> 0:32:17.320
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have a choice because it would rob my scalp.

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 2>It would get oily, vicious cycle if I was going

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:21.240
<v Speaker 2>to dinner or movie. You know when you get that

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 2>oily and it's like it's being irritating. So I remember

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 2>those times, but that was in ninety three. Was the

0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:29.480
<v Speaker 2>last time that happened to me. But my point is

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 2>is that I went from fourteen times a week, twice

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 2>a day to now I do it like twice a

0:32:34.600 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 2>week and it gets better on day two better on

0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 2>day three, better on day four. There's times that I'm

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:40.719
<v Speaker 2>like on day six and seven, I'm like, no, I

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 2>really like it today. I'll wait till tomorrow. I'll wait

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 2>till tomorrow. So you can do it as often as

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:48.400
<v Speaker 2>you want, but knowing you can wait is absolutely amazing.

0:32:48.440 --> 0:32:51.760
<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk so much about the specifics of

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:55.160
<v Speaker 1>your products because they need to be discussed, but I

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 1>wanted to get back to some bigger life things because

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I know we mentioned before you lawsuits and you've.

0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Say that, yeah. The only reason because I do want

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:11.400
<v Speaker 2>to clear that we okay. When that happened. At QBC,

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 2>I was the number one beauty run number one for years.

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 2>It was it was always at the top was Philosophy

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 2>and below them was par Essentials and I was third,

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 2>and then in twenty fourteen I became second. Twenty fifteen

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:30.959
<v Speaker 2>I became first, and that's when Lassuit hit number one

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 2>KBC and I was number three in the country. And

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:36.479
<v Speaker 2>that's what people don't know about us. There were the

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 2>top two, which you know, we all know who they are,

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 2>the top two, and then it was me. So it's

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 2>not even intentionally but right on their back door because

0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:47.160
<v Speaker 2>we had the infomercial that was worldwide and it was

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:50.720
<v Speaker 2>playing everyone's TVs like it was a number one infomercial.

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 2>I think I was you were, Yeah, you were? You

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 2>were in the informercial we got in GLED. I think, yeah,

0:33:57.080 --> 0:34:00.160
<v Speaker 2>you were in our infomercial. Sorry, I just when Allie

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Robinson was in it. I think that same one.

0:34:01.920 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I believe that sounds right.

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:08.720
<v Speaker 2>But because we were in everyone's face, and because I'm

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 2>not a corporation, I'm an individual. On no, I don't

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 2>have backers. I don't have I don't have anyone back

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:17.840
<v Speaker 2>in my brain. It's literally just me, and I'm proud

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:22.399
<v Speaker 2>of that as well. However, I became a target. And

0:34:23.239 --> 0:34:25.759
<v Speaker 2>I'll just say now that we do know that the

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:28.400
<v Speaker 2>reason we were investigating by the FDA is because the

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 2>person who requested that was their number one backer was

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 2>Johnson and Johnson, who we were right at their back door.

0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Who do you think had me investigated? So really think

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 2>about it. And the point is is that I didn't

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:47.280
<v Speaker 2>have all the statistics, but we did over thirty three tests.

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:51.800
<v Speaker 2>I've spent over three million dollars on testing, and everyone

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 2>came back negative, negative, negative, negative, negative, loss or damit,

0:34:55.640 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 2>everything negative. So I'm like, imagine I was on number fifteen.

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:01.439
<v Speaker 2>We have an the one we can do. Okay, let's

0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 2>do it sixteen seventeen up to number thirty. We have

0:35:04.760 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 2>another one we could try this, Let's try that. We

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:11.360
<v Speaker 2>want to leave everything, ever, no stone unturned. So imagine

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.440
<v Speaker 2>if I was on number thirty two and the thirty three,

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:16.320
<v Speaker 2>the third one came back positive, it would have erased

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:18.840
<v Speaker 2>all the three monient ever race spent. So if you

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 2>think no one in their right mind would keep testing

0:35:22.080 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 2>after even twenty or thirty, but to still do it, Okay,

0:35:26.080 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 2>you have this one. They've done it where they injected it,

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 2>they've done everything on the testing, and it's on our website.

0:35:31.440 --> 0:35:33.960
<v Speaker 2>You can jeck it. So my point was that was

0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 2>all a little too late, though, because it took years

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 2>to do that, and as it because I wasn't planning

0:35:38.680 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 2>on settling at all, and as it kept going, it

0:35:40.719 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 2>just kept getting worse and worse. And they're like, you

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 2>cannot settle and go to court and you most likely

0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 2>will win this, but you may not have a business

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:51.640
<v Speaker 2>by the time you're done. So like, that's the only

0:35:51.640 --> 0:35:54.879
<v Speaker 2>reason I settled. And we're in a world where people

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:58.120
<v Speaker 2>know they know it's it's easier to settle than it

0:35:58.160 --> 0:35:59.080
<v Speaker 2>is to go and do that.

0:36:05.360 --> 0:36:08.080
<v Speaker 1>How did you remain resilient during that time?

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Reverend Delarice Lad that's where she there were it

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:16.759
<v Speaker 2>was I couldn't because what it did for me is

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 2>it questioned my character and anyone that knows me knows

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:22.439
<v Speaker 2>I stand in conviction of who and what I am.

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 2>I've had to let friends and stylists go from my

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:29.279
<v Speaker 2>salon who were doing Brazilian blow out because when I

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:31.400
<v Speaker 2>go on are, I say, we don't use girls, use plans,

0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:32.920
<v Speaker 2>we don't use some lacktor, we don't use bleach, we

0:36:32.920 --> 0:36:35.759
<v Speaker 2>don't use this. And found out someone was doing a

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Charatan's treatment at their home. I'm like, I can't go

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:40.799
<v Speaker 2>on air and speak of we don't do this, and

0:36:40.840 --> 0:36:43.240
<v Speaker 2>you're doing that. It makes me look like I'm a liar.

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.560
<v Speaker 2>But I was blindsided by it, and I'm like, so

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:47.239
<v Speaker 2>I had to let that person go to this day,

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:50.759
<v Speaker 2>she's still a friend. She's still a friend, but if

0:36:50.800 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 2>you question my integrity, I have nothing. So when this came,

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 2>it's like, of course the question my integray went on.

0:36:56.640 --> 0:36:59.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you just feel like, how can you come,

0:37:00.080 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 2>can you overcome this?

0:37:01.200 --> 0:37:05.640
<v Speaker 1>So that period that that struggle was hard, that you learned,

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:08.279
<v Speaker 1>what's the hardest thing you've ever had to say no to?

0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Like, I don't do things that I'm okay with, you

0:37:11.400 --> 0:37:13.320
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, it's like if it goes against

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 2>but I have so I have boundaries. So I'm trying

0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:19.239
<v Speaker 2>to think, say, what's the hardest thing I said no to?

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Is it in your careers? In your personal life?

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:29.000
<v Speaker 2>Probably? I guess it might be personal life, Like I

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:31.879
<v Speaker 2>don't I'm not like I'm single, you know me, I'm

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 2>single most of my life and I'm very okay with that,

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:38.479
<v Speaker 2>and people or like, no, really really I am because

0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:40.760
<v Speaker 2>I won't settle no, you won't make sense. I won't

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 2>settle so proudly that and you shouldn't.

0:37:43.239 --> 0:37:45.440
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I don't know that there's anybody out

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 1>there that deserves you.

0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you are something that's I feel it was

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 2>meant to happen. It'll happen. But I guess it's probably

0:37:52.080 --> 0:37:54.799
<v Speaker 2>that saying no to something I know isn't right. That

0:37:54.840 --> 0:37:57.759
<v Speaker 2>makes sense, right? I get chances. I give chances, and

0:37:57.800 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, and if I see something like no,

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 2>it's not okay, and so it probably would probably be that.

0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:09.760
<v Speaker 1>And also just like getting past society's desire to couple everybody.

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Up, Yes, which is crazy. It's crazy. It's like and

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 2>I think people are now more figuring out once they

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 2>become single and whatnot. They're like, like, my sister's married

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 2>to marriage since I well mat or a man in

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 2>high school. But she at this point knows if anything happened,

0:38:25.120 --> 0:38:28.840
<v Speaker 2>she would remain single because you realize they're sacrificed. I'm like,

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 2>that's okay, and I'm not trying. Their marriage is great,

0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 2>but if anything were to happen, She's like, I wouldn't

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:39.439
<v Speaker 2>because I think you realize how much like I give

0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:43.480
<v Speaker 2>them myself in every aspect GVC, salon everywhere and my

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:45.680
<v Speaker 2>alone time means everything to me.

0:38:45.840 --> 0:38:47.320
<v Speaker 1>Yes, tell me about your alone.

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Where ground and sentences.

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I was going to ask you, like, how do you

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:52.920
<v Speaker 1>protect your energy? Because you are so generous with.

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:55.880
<v Speaker 2>It, I have to like at work, you or a no,

0:38:56.000 --> 0:38:57.520
<v Speaker 2>I give and give a gift. PVC, you give a

0:38:57.520 --> 0:39:00.839
<v Speaker 2>give a gift and I'm finding great with that. It's

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:04.919
<v Speaker 2>in that wheelhouse. When I'm in my element, I can

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:08.799
<v Speaker 2>be extrovert and train and educate and all that. When

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm not in my element is where I cocoon in

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:14.560
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like I do and it's people think, oh,

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:16.920
<v Speaker 2>you're a leo. You're like, no, I don't. I don't.

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I can do and be passionate about the things I

0:39:19.920 --> 0:39:22.840
<v Speaker 2>do and talk about it, but if it's not my wheelhouse,

0:39:22.880 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 2>I'll just I want.

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 1>To just see, Yeah, make retreat. You like your alone time.

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:31.920
<v Speaker 2>That's what recharges and I need that and I love that,

0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:34.160
<v Speaker 2>and I cherish that when at the end of the

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:38.320
<v Speaker 2>day and when the whole staff goes home, like nothing

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:41.160
<v Speaker 2>against them, no, but it's my space and my time

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:44.759
<v Speaker 2>and I cherish it so much. Yeah, And just even

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:46.680
<v Speaker 2>with the angels, And it would probably be the same

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:47.319
<v Speaker 2>if they weren't, I.

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Say, angel Angels, doggies.

0:39:50.600 --> 0:39:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they just make everything sweeter. But even without, if

0:39:54.560 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 2>it was just mine, it's more turning in and reflecting,

0:39:57.239 --> 0:40:01.320
<v Speaker 2>and it's things come to me, ideas and what not

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 2>come to me through in the shower obviously constantly because

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 2>you're you're tuned out and whatnot. And when I get massages,

0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like because you're checked out, it's like ideas, I'm like, oh,

0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 2>my God, I gotta remember this.

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:13.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not annoying though, when you're trying to get a

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:17.799
<v Speaker 1>massage and you're like light bulb bloop stopping or.

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:19.400
<v Speaker 2>I wake up in the middle night, I'm like, I

0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 2>don't like write me all down because it wakes you

0:40:21.160 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 2>up too much. But it's like when you're sleeping and

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 2>it comes to you that's an I thought an idea,

0:40:25.080 --> 0:40:28.000
<v Speaker 2>and keep track of that and massage, yeah, definitely, because

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 2>it's just boom boom boom, and I'm like, okay.

0:40:30.000 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Stop, everybody, just stop. What is one piece of hair

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.000
<v Speaker 1>advice that's actually life advice?

0:40:41.400 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 2>My first one that came to minde is hydrate hydrate hydrate.

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:48.840
<v Speaker 1>That's what one piece of hair advice is also life advice.

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, is well, I think the first thing comes to

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:59.799
<v Speaker 2>mind is stop the abuse. Stop the Yeah, well it's

0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:02.240
<v Speaker 2>life advice so well, because stop the abuse and stop

0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 2>trying to follow the trends and just let it be right.

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, before I let you go, Chustine, what was

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:11.400
<v Speaker 1>your last I choose me moment?

0:41:12.040 --> 0:41:14.360
<v Speaker 2>I guess it would for me, it'd have to be

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 2>an ongoing existing one. Is like what I do is,

0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 2>as I said, I give give you all the day.

0:41:20.400 --> 0:41:23.320
<v Speaker 2>So what I do is I reserve and I cocoon

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:26.359
<v Speaker 2>my Sundays for me. I get invited to a lot

0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 2>of things on Sunday, and there's things I want to do,

0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:31.520
<v Speaker 2>but I know if I don't recharge today and turn

0:41:31.560 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 2>within and just be solo alone, and it's like plugging

0:41:35.200 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 2>in your vone. It's like I'm recharging on Sundays and

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.080
<v Speaker 2>there's things some that are great there. It has to

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:45.440
<v Speaker 2>be extremely special or something that I need to attend

0:41:45.560 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 2>in order to do it. Something happen to Hollywood Beauty Wars.

0:41:47.600 --> 0:41:49.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, not on Sunday, but I've had to do

0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:52.960
<v Speaker 2>I have done that. It's true, it really is. I

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:56.319
<v Speaker 2>protect my Sundays. I don't leave. I just home with

0:41:56.360 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 2>the angels and I chill. I if I miss that,

0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 2>unlike I feel behind all week.

0:42:02.200 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, Monday comes way too quick.

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:42:05.040 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I oh my god. I love that we're so similar.

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:11.560
<v Speaker 2>Your Sundays they are well.

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for sharing all this insight with people.

0:42:15.280 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 1>You are just a treasure trove of just everything good.

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:21.720
<v Speaker 1>You are just a good human